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File: 049b68440c6b39f⋯.jpg (51.31 KB,1024x576,16:9,trump.jpg)

 No.3213 [Open thread]

This is a thread about the way psychopolitics are going to change after the election of Trump. Bear with me.

This election meant several things:

1. It made painfully clear that nobody is in charge of the world. The Illuminati-believers, the conspiracy nuts and /pol/ with their jew question, are way off point. The world is (despite the droll social clubs a la bohemian grove) devoid of an all powerful over-watching elite. Even Kissinger was slow to see that Trump was going to win. And I don't think you could get anymore elitist than Kissinger. I know I will get responses accusing me of shilling, but I believe this board (and its users) are intelligent enough to discern this. Any and all attempts on clinging to the conspirational model of the world is akin to catholics holding to a heliocentric model of the cosmos. I know it's scary, but there is no one in charge...

2. Democracy seems to work. At least if some criterias are met. An over confident political elite that was slow and stupid to counter act trumps ascension. A rarified atmosphere of racial and class conflict. A preeminent information based comunication... and so on.

3. The way people are convinced will change thanks to Trump. All of the psychopolitic theories and knowledge will change drastically to reflect his populist approach.

So what I want you guys to discuss is this: How will this change the panorama of psychopolitics and psy ops in general? Is this a blowback of all psy politics gone awry? Or is it the death throes of the American society?

I'm looking forward on your responses...

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 No.3439

LOL OP REKT IN RETROSPEKT

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 No.3441

>>3439

>>3436

Fuck off with this retardation. Seriously, go back to your echo chamber.

The 'Trump' you refer to is not a man, but a machine. The presidency is not a dictatorship. He is beholden not only to his supporters, but to the interests of the whole economy.

The presidency is a ceremonial position more than anything else. It's just something for the masses to look at.

What happens in terms of military strikes and policy changes and anything else comes as a result of the will of the economy, not from one man.

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 No.3442

>>3383

The jews are just continuing their attacks against what Trump symbolizes to the people they wish to destroy and enslave. There's no news on that front

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 No.3444

>>3441

>He is beholden not only to his supporters, but to the interests of the whole economy.

He has a real estate empire and people love his TV show and WWE appearances. How does he need the presidency? He's not some small-fry 'community organiser'.

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 No.3662

bump

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 No.1790 [Open thread]

Let's talk about what to do about the pedowood question.

Here's the situation: secret societies use pedophilia to induce compliance among the "elites ". See Franklin cover up, Dennis Hastert, /pedowood322/

So smart guys. How do you educate people about this without sounding crazy? It's vital to spread the word, to make normal well adjusted people realize that their children could be the victims of these people.

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 No.3343

>>3339

>>3340

I assume you don't care to explain anything you just said either?

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 No.3404

>>3232

>there are two ways

por que no los dos?

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 No.3411

>>3343

>ass u me

You can give people power over your mind by trusting in things orchestrated for you to believe.

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 No.3422

File: a708fb49ac76348⋯.jpg (387.52 KB,750x961,750:961,1490404955352.jpg)

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 No.3659

>>3337

This is well said.

Sin, perhaps the exposing of a weakness, but most importantly vulnerability, produces total compliance and ensures the pursuit of common-cause.

Sin is like the currency in which souls are traded via the appeasement of carnal desires.

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 No.2578 [Open thread]

http://www.explore-ideas.com/story.php?i=5097

https://freech.net/fam/res/33544.html

I would use dishonest tactics such as changing IDs to pretend that more posters agree with me than is the case, emotional arguments, ridicule, violence (as a last resort) etc in a desperate attempt to change their diseased minds. This is OK because they don't believe in logic anyway so I can't argue with them logically.

X-Posted from https://www.anontalk.eu/topic/75

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 No.3475

>>3474

Why continue the conversation if you don't want to elaborate?

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 No.3480

>>3475

It's on the guy asking rhetorical-style questions to elaborate on the answers.

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 No.3481

>>3480

>it's on you to entertain me

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 No.3483

>>3481

Didn't realise you were being entertaining, I thought you were being informative.

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 No.3658

File: 59b8b6c1acf59de⋯.jpg (28.77 KB,307x600,307:600,sphinxgustavemoreau.jpg)

because truth is defined by experience which can be compromised and reconfigured by hallucinations, dream states, the phenomenon of consciousness is unexplained, there's no satisfactory answer.

>>2768

>>2772

truth, the magical label, exists only in the parameters of our species and its ever-expanding index of languages. it's paraded by our government, and our sciences. yet, there have to external (and internal), communicative patterns which may overrule the truths that we perceive to be as such. as this has always been the case as history progressed.

"god exists", this statement can be taken in many ways, for what is god? definitions are loose, you may not interpret my explanation as i intend regardless of how concise i am. connotations aren't typically exacted between parties, picture related. abstraction is often antithetical, it wanders from the literary as it questions the component-ideas of systems deemed logical, perhaps this is lateral thinking.

that is to say, an objective truth is not obtainable to us, but we like to think we have. although, there is the idea of consensus reality, which is perhaps the subjectivity of humanity, the state of our worldly affairs. which to reiterate, other worlds (which we know not of), and their truths, dominate our truths.

i don't think a ministry of truth, the idea of objective truth being established by anyone, is beneficial. it's a very robotic desire, honestly.

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 No.3657 [Open thread]

Will we ever speak with them?

"If a human being is isolated from other humans for a month or more, and is confined to a small area geographically and a small range of activities, his interest in his surroundings and its minutiae increase radically....Further, if a confined, isolated human is allowed brief contacts with other humans even without a shared language, he begins to find their presence comforting, and a pleasant relief from the "evenness" of his surroundings. If these humans controls his only sources of food as well as his sources of intraspecies stimulation, he mat adapt to their demands in subtle and not so subtle ways. He may, given time, learn their language, take on their beliefs, etc. When we catch a dolphin and put him alone in a small tank, we are imposing similar "solitary confinement" structures on him. Maybe we can thus capture his loyalty and his initiative."

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 No.3655 [Open thread]

>>11076278

? @

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 No.3396 [Open thread]

>What is it?

Cambridge Analytica (CA) is a privately held company that combines data mining and data analysis with strategic communication for the electoral process. It was created in 2013 as an offshoot of its British parent company SCL Group to participate in American politics. In 2014, CA was involved in 44 U.S. political races. The company is heavily funded by the family of Robert Mercer, an American hedge-fund billionaire. In 2015 it became known as the data analysis company working initially for Ted Cruz's presidential campaign.In 2016, after Cruz's campaign had faltered, Cambridge Analytica started to work for Donald Trump's presidential campaign. The firm maintains offices in New York City, Washington, D.C., and London.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica

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 No.3402

>>3401

Dan Gabriel

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 No.3507

>Key people:

>Steve Bannon

hmm... what is it with that guy?

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 No.3518

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 No.3519

>>3518

Gimme the tl;dr

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 No.3654

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>>3396

Considering Cambridge Analytica, this is all happening now, video related.

This guy is some second-hand intelligence asset, bought-out mole, churning conspiracy in the direction of lesser agency start-ups (founded 2013) using common practices. Essentially this character is being championed by the communist media to feign virtues which are intended to be tethered to the anti-fa motif, who are being provided with these celebrity idols of "rebellion".

Using facebook data as a foundation to manipulate the masses, so marketing, targeted ads. Of course Google does this with its search indices, and what social-media platform doesn't do this, sell user-data? The well-established round-tables of such operations are merely defending (via their media) the monopoly of public political-consensus, and what we know as "the left" is the bloated hypnotized result of their vice-grip on all public platforms.

Another deep-state-darling "whistleblower", which is a very tactically playacting word, dressed like a clown-harem, gossiping about the lower-rung methodology of social-engineering circles.

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 No.3498 [Open thread]

The plot to rule the world is old, but the language to describe the principles and techniques in which to accomplish it are relatively new.

>In the end I suceeded in acquiring pupils and building up an International Psycho-Analytic Association. But this struggle is not yet over. - Sigmund Freud.

Freud started the Wednesday Psychological Group, which eventually morphed into a variety of troublesome organizations like the "Coefficients Dining Club" and the Tavistock Insitute of Human Relations.

The people involved are important to know about, but I don't like to get bogged down on specific persons or entities, because it is the ideas they implement that are what you need to stand up against.

The name for the set of principles applied to control the population, including you, is called "Systems Psychodynamics."

http://www.mygen.com/HistoryofSystemsPsychodynamics-2004.pdf

>Systems psychodynamics is an interdisciplinary field amalgamating a triad of influences—the practice of psychoanalysis, the theories and methods of the field of group relations, and the task and boundary awareness of open systems perspectives. Although systems psychodynamics is not a new field of study, there has been a general lack of awareness of its roots, how its formative elements have become intertwined over the years, and the role of the Tavistock Institute in developments in the field. This article provides a synthesis of this history and focuses, in particular, on the intellectual foundations of the Tavistock method of working experientially with groups and the application of this method to the study of organizations.

The troubling aspect of applied systems psychodynamics is that there is no defense against it. In order to combat it, you must employ, essentially, the same methods on yourself.

The US Air Force worked with TavistocPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.3505

>>3498

Please tell me, especially if you have links to documents to tell about these methods. Better prepared than brainwashed.

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 No.3651

bump

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 No.3344 [Open thread]

What does the pyramid mean, anyways? that "funny symbol on the back of the one dollar bill", I mean.

Getting information out of this group is notoriously insane but possible, or at least I presume. I've been interested in their core ideas so far, not because I want to join them but because I've been in search for esoteric knowledge.

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 No.3463

>>3453

What I don't understand about all this is how fucked up and unenlightened the masses are when the elites' religion is as you described. My best guess is that they've taken the knowledge and perverted it for their and only their personal gain.

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 No.3486

>>3463

You do not understand.

The elite are a gang. They are building paradise on earth, for themselves. Not for humanity.

Ruthlessly exploiting and enslaving weaker, stupider people is not something they apologize for. They see it as a part of the natural order and they make no apologies for nature.

It is a religion of sociopaths and people who aspire to power at any cost. And a religion of dupes who aid the sociopaths because they are compartmentalized and brainwashed by ideology and are "useful idiots".

Even their subordinates are kept profane and in the dark. The masses are not even on the chessboard. While they are above the chessboard, looking down. The pieces do not know they are on the chessboard.

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 No.3516

File: 7d9411ca13e2155⋯.png (36.77 KB,220x287,220:287,Rose_Cross_Lamen.svg.png)

>>3486

>While they are above the chessboard, looking down.

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 No.3646

File: f2d4cff90510f31⋯.jpg (118.92 KB,1000x750,4:3,yahweh.jpg)

>>3452

>Every symbol has multiple meanings.

The eye (of horus) means many things, just ask Crowley.

Sometimes a triangle can be seen behind the head of Yahweh. It's the masculine symbol of fire in alchemy, think burning bush. It is "the blade" over the "the chalice" which, in (sexual) union with one-another forms the seal of solomon.

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 No.3830

saturn has an eye shape on one of its poles

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 No.3555 [Open thread]

We have all heard of politcal strategy, but what is it really?

ITT:

>what current political strategies are used today

>what strategies were used before

>what will happen with political strategy

>what movements are currently doing

>develop your own political strategy

>share strategy

>discuss strategy and politcal events

With the help of politics we controll society, with the help of political strategy we can?..

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 No.3645

Political strategies are made obsolete by the proliferation of psychological warfare into the domestic population.

The best strategy is to subvert the culture, specifically youth culture, as beyond that, typically, political opinions crystallize.

Any television show can impart the philosophy that leads to communism, it doesn't have to dress itself in overt political symbolism.

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 No.2674 [Open thread]

Watch this vid if you want, but the TLDR is some old fart pro-bullshitter the kind that companies hire to get their employees to shutup about low wages and bad working conditions to tell them to be "more positive" instead with a powerpoint full of meme stock images

And this is not the worse of all, most new TED videos are just crap, its no longer scientists and inventors showing stuff but blowhards like this idiot, and not in TEDx which was always shit-tier but in the TED main events which costs a ton of money to attend.

Are there any exposes on the inner working of TED? any actual leaks about how it works and who decides what goes on the stage? any ex-employees talking about the current state of this organization?

I need actual information with sources, not theories or conjectures.

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 No.3494

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 No.3526

File: 1f63d71939cf012⋯.png (73.2 KB,353x321,353:321,1468392572017.png)

>>3454

>insider: TED eliminated scientific elites from the conference, because they are harder to control. Their beliefs are not subjective and they put people in contact with people, the top level cannot control easily. Their influence is undesirable.

I don't disrespect the talk but I wish there was more to it. Do you have a example of something undesirable happening(IE: Video of top scientist spreading his opinions to the populace)?

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 No.3551

>>3456

Oracle of Delphi, I'm guessing. "From the top of the mountain"

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 No.3559

>>3456

>>3484

>>3551

From Wikipedia

>The Delphi method (/ˈdɛlfaɪ/ DEL-fy) is a structured communication technique or method, originally developed as a systematic, interactive forecasting method which relies on a panel of experts. The experts answer questionnaires in two or more rounds. After each round, a facilitator or change agent provides an anonymised summary of the experts' forecasts from the previous round as well as the reasons they provided for their judgments. Thus, experts are encouraged to revise their earlier answers in light of the replies of other members of their panel. It is believed that during this process the range of the answers will decrease and the group will converge towards the "correct" answer. Finally, the process is stopped after a predefined stop criterion (e.g. number of rounds, achievement of consensus, stability of results) and the mean or median scores of the final rounds determine the results.

>The Delphi method was developed by Project RAND during the 1950-1960s (1959) by Olaf Helmer, Norman Dalkey, and Nicholas Rescher.

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 No.3644

>>3454

>TED is a tavistock operation.

There is for sure something ominous about TED talks, seems overtly optimistic while appealing to those who think themselves intellectual. Essentially talking points provided to the spiritually gutted bugmen computer-intellects.

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 No.2681 [Open thread]

So in case you guys didn't hear google just hired moot

Yeah, that moot

For what? its not clear, the PR is the same BS most companies push to blogs, but my theories are:

A- moot is going to be part of some new project to beat facebook, which I doubt since 4chan was never mainstream and canv.as was a total failure

B-google is going after IBs and anonymity in general, very likely after the plus and YT fiasco where they wanted all accounts to switch to real names.

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 No.2706

>>2705

>Resistance

Who is talking about resistance? :^)

>Moot, Rules of the internet

Not talking about some ideals like open source and shit. Iam thinking about the old constitution of the anons.

For Moot I hope he enjoys being the kikes bitch, nothing wrong with that. I bet he is currently swimming in boi pussies and Iam happy for the old faggot, he earned it.

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 No.3096

>>2681

Fuck. Its B. (lol) He's still bitter about getting BTFO by GG and /pol/.

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 No.3568

Yup.

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 No.3569

>>2681

Yup.

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 No.3643

google is going to do what google does, doesn't matter who they employ, they plan decades in advance.

they probably have the next 100 years mapped out.

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 No.2266 [Open thread]

I keep hearing sketchy references in passing to this, sometimes on blogs, sometimes in 8chan threads. (I don't know if it should be spelled "world maker", "worldmaker" or "world-maker.")

Google yields almost nothing about this, nor does archive.org. The few times I've seen open allusions to it, it is people saying that anything on the net about it gets scrubbed quickly. Later I try to find these references…and they appear to have disappeared, too. It's very frustrating.

What I can discern is as follows:

1) It is allegedly a highly secret or esoteric Jewish ritual.

2) Sacrifice – perhaps human sacrifice – may be involved. (However, I think it differs from the more well-known "Moloch" child sacrifices that may or may not have taken place in the ancient Middle East among Jews, Caananites, and/or others)

3) The goal may be to give the ritual performer some kind of Godlike power or even turn such person into a diety. Conversely, it may have something to do with the state of Israel.

4) It may be connected to the theory that the holocaust of the Jews in WWII (whether or not "6 million" died or not) was a ritual sacrifice to bring about the creation of the state of Israel. Or, conversely, it may be something even bigger that hasn't happened yet.

5) Whenever detailed information about this appears on the net, it seems to be "removed" by someone or something.

Help me understand, /32/. Has anyone heard of this? Is it a bunch of bullshit or something real? If the latter, what do we know about it?

Any input welcome.

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 No.3018

>>2396

>sphinx shows evidence of tampering

>farmers uncovering pyramids in china

>victors write the history

And suppose they are still writing the history? Suppose chinese farmers are unearthing pyramids in a hundred years. When are we to become skeptical of it all?

Does it even make a difference what the 'prisoners in the cave' think about history?

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 No.3511

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 No.3527

Bump

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 No.3562

>>2396

In the original European religions, the gods were highly enlightened people. Nothing more to it — anyone could become a god if they so wished and had the mindset to put in the work to achieve such a level of enlightenment.

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 No.3642

bump

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 No.3584 [Open thread]

the mega library needs new ebooks. can you think of some good books that have come out recently? I can think of a few which i will look for. maybe this is our chance to revive the board and give us something to talk about.

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 No.3585

Also do you have any requests? if not what in general should I look for?

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 No.3596

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 No.3635

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 No.3360 [Open thread]

Many of the women that we know in our lives today in many ways seem very different from the ideal.

Why?

From the deeps of time:

Since the beginning of humanity women have had to watch over and care for others constantly, and so they became inherently selfless, living to help others before themselves.

Because they were so close to all the needs and wants of their people, they developed the instinct to trust them absolutely and a very deep and true understanding of their people was taken for granted, not only in their minds but in their instincts; in their genetics.

And so it went for a very long time; the care and understanding of women maintained and sustained communities ranging in size from isolated families to large tribes.

But while women tended the home, men traveled far and wide, and all the while the world shrank, and there came slavery, civilization, industry, and the global empire.

This vast change may be summed up to one critical point: freedom was ended. The vast majority of humanity was disrupted and kept in stasis to serve a few masters.

Because masters/employers want the women they control as workers first and as mothers second, they were relieved of many long-standing responsibilities to their people by the 'modernization' of society.

Industry provided substitutes for their love: ready-to-eat food, child care, school, and so on.

But being based in genetics rather than habit, their instincts remained.

Without the traditional complementary habits, the instinctual traits of selflessness that were so precious to the livelihood of their people became discouraged, unused, and hollow, and so selflessness turned to nothing but self-unawareness: The instinct to implicitly trust their social sphere was left intact to be turned to purposes other than what made it to begin with.

Now consider the addition of 'the media' to the common social sphere, being everywhere at all times, with all of its inherent falsehoods and general laPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.3582

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>>3360

OP fails to fully surmise the effects that automation and industrialization hvae on society as a whole, the ancillary outcomes of becoming increasingly dependent on complex automated systems to provide for more and more aspects of our livelihoods. As a whole, humanity is facing the same problems, women particularly, in all developed nations (higher mortality rates, negative replacement rates, lower literacy rates, higher obesity rates etc. etc.). The root cause fundamentally being an increasing dependence on automated complex systems to provide for more aspects of our lives, and mankinds time, effort and energy being siphoned into the expansion of that said system, no matter how divorced it is from our natural instincts. In fact, the more mankind acts in direct opposition to his OR her instincts, the more it benefits the expansion of industrialization and now digitization into our daily lives, thus completing the circle and self fulfilling theories around things like Moore's law.

We, as a species, are decades too late from rectifying this problem with cultural, economic and political means.That Rubicon was passed in the 60's. The net gain to net detriment relationship between what mankind has to contribute into the adaption and use of digitization, and the industrial systems needed in order to expand and maintain them, and the real or perceived benefits that one may receive are done. This can be clearly observed from many tangible outcomes such as the ones mentioned above.

This as a thesis can be validated largely because those who do not engage in industrialization, let alone the digital aspects thereof, see their populations and outcomes thriving. The Amish and Mennonite are an incredibly weak, meek and flawed people. They are pathological pacifists, whose populations have only endured on the backs of other men who do choose to fight, die and risk it all. Without America, the Amish and Mennonite populations would have ceased to exist long ago. That being said however, the Amish and Mennonite populations chose to cut off automation at a certain point respectively (I am not under the delusion that it's a perfect system that everyone adheres to, I have worked extensively in Lancaster and merePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.3583

>>3582

Nah go into Bhutan, no need to excuse quality posts on a molasses board.

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 No.3631

>>3576

i think this whole thing of chasing one sex's errors is a mistake.

we need to look at the race as a system and not focus on dividing in half. It's tempting to do as we analyze the faults and strengths of each sex in their roles, but this is not information for direct action.

This is just the beginnings of our model of a functional race and society.

>>3582

the entire problem with industrial automation is the intent of the plutocracy. It's directly geared at replacing human instinct and function in all ways, inspired from a hate of humanity.

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 No.3632

I think its more productive to look at this issue form the perspective of class.

It was the failure of our ARISTOCRACY that lead us into this mess. Or rather, their inability to deal with as much success as they earned.

This is simply a matter of letting double standards infect our society. We've turned our backs on true law.

The only thing to do is to forge new law in the chaos of war unlike any that has been seen or imagined yet.

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 No.3633

>>3632

which is exactly what 1776 was all about

we just have to do it harder

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 No.3586 [Open thread]

Why has the Old Trolls Going Full-SJW thread been 404'd? That was a very informative and enlightening discussion. Is there any archive of that page?

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 No.3604

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4u

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 No.3619

>>3604

Thank you :)

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 No.3620

>>3586

You'll find that during the outage of last year, several threads were pruned permanently (not just temporarily due to "server issues")

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 No.3629

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>>3620

One can try pic related.

Or search through external archive pages like archive.is, but yes, many threads have been coincidentally lost forever.

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 No.3630

Somewhat related: I remember reading an speculative article not too long ago on a AltRight/NRx/DissRight(?) site about the influence SomethingAwful had on the callout/online mob culture the modern left has built up over the years but I can't find it again.

Found it pretty interesting because much of the stuff in the article was info found during early #GG digging for example (and even that was incomplete, esp. on the journo front it looked much worse).

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