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File: a97ed64451d18c9⋯.jpg (251.11 KB,846x612,47:34,DH-Burrell-Overlook-Mansio….jpg)

 No.13575 [Open thread]

Who would you be in the /ratanon/ group house? What would the house itself and living there be like?

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 No.13738

In the basement is a warren of cages, space-heaters, and IV lines. Soft towels line the cages, and plump, dead-eyed white rats lie belly-up on the towels, adorned with feeding tubes and electrodes.

Every few hours, a volunteer from the House comes to wipe the rats clean of their own filth with moist towlettes heated in a bath of blood-hot water, then gently turns them to avert bed-sores. The volunteer checks that the heroin distribution system is operating correctly, removes and incinerates any expired rats, and marks their initials on a timesheet before leaving.

Fresh rats are ordered from a laboratory suppiler. One resident is working on a breeding program of his own, though progress is slow.

On the wall decimal places click up on a counter marked "utility".

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 No.13739

File: 6eed66eef864b64⋯.jpg (1.53 MB,3072x2304,4:3,6ee.jpg)

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 No.13800

>>13739

Supposedly there is at least one Bay Area rat that has actual cages to put her visiting submissives in. I'm not entirely sure if they were joking or not.

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 No.13801

The water heater broke down months ago. Arguments over whether repairing it still flare up on occasion, even though the charred remains of the heater have been designated as a memetic hazard and quarantined.

The latest jury-rigged solution involves a vat of mineral oil, several hundred GPUs, and an entire fabricated altcoin bubble. Two residents work in shifts to prop up the hype via sockpuppet accounts. The current value of their increasingly precarious portfolio can be inferred from the temperature of the tap water.

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 No.13805

>>13738

>>13801

I enjoyed these.

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File: fc8cb7c2975e6ae⋯.jpg (135.26 KB,1200x788,300:197,Kendall Jenner.jpg)

 No.13781 [Open thread]

What are some basic rational concept? A thread for rational 101. I'm lost.

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 No.13782

kendall jenner was born a boy

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 No.13785

be gay

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 No.13786

File: ac70233abd7a2ee⋯.png (102.04 KB,1600x1600,1:1,1497919443564.png)

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 No.13787

>>13785

being bi is more rational

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 No.13629 [Open thread]

Hey, I got banned from the discord, I live in South America and there ar e no friends for me here… Does anyone knows more good communities? I don't know what the fuck to do, my last connection to other people was the discord SSC and now that's gone, I can't even get my account back to speak with my friends or see the other servers, I'm banned from facenbook twitter reddit etc. it's asking me for a phone number and I don't huave it my dad's dying I have nobody to talk to jesus fucking christ man I just said one bad word drunk and that's it?

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 No.13690

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 No.13691

>>13689

Yeah I used a known alias. Well we shouldn't talk about that in this thread any more as it has nothing to do with OP.

Any alias would be known though as long as I admit that I'm in control of the subverse.

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 No.13692

>>13691

A new alias would not have been immediately known. You would have had the time to delete the posts. Your #1 gaffe is that you could have farmed the karma points on /v/pics.

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 No.13694

>>13692

I see. Thanks!

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 No.13701

>>13677

Just make a subreddit. It is easy to create and switch between accounts.

>>13678

This, too.

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File: 5fbb6489f7a9c84⋯.png (1.49 MB,1258x1822,629:911,birdsaren'treal.png)

 No.13465 [Open thread]

Men over a certain age, say about 23, don't really have friends. It's just a conspiracy by "alpha males" and females to keep supposedly beta males down. Let's review:

Your coworker

> not friend. Coworker

Your coworker's "friends" from his old workplace that he goes out drinking with

> not friends. Ex-coworkers

People you hang out with at rationalist meetups

> not friends. People who can bear to hear you talk about crazy rat shit that normies wouldn't tolerate, intellectually or morally

That person you grew up with

> most likely you grew apart and never talk to them any more, so - not friends. And sending them a generic card once a year does not count as "talking to them".

That person who keeps blagging drugs/food/money/homework off of you

> not friend. Leech.

That person you added on Facebook after talking to them once, and have never directly communicated with again

> Seriously? Not friends

Male celeb papped on holiday with a "close female friend"

> not friends. They're banging. Or he's gay and she's his beard.

Pop star who shoots a music video with his "friends"

> not friends. Paid actors. Or groupies.

That smoking hot girl who "likes" you

> not friend. Once-in-a-lifetime opportunity

Your gf/bf/spouse's male "friend"

> not friend. You're about to get cucked. Or you already have been.

Man who works in a shop and greets people he knows by name

> not friends, customers. EconPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.13480

You're just typical-minding (or typical-lifing, rather). There are a lot of lonely people, probably more now than in the past, but not everyone is lonely. Societal changes didn't completely destroy the possibility of traditional friendship.

>People you hang out with at rationalist meetups

>> not friends. People who can bear to hear you talk about crazy rat shit that normies wouldn't tolerate, intellectually or morally

I don't get this one. Friends don't count if they're weird? Isn't it about the relationship rather than the person?

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 No.13518

"Friendships" are a sign of weakness. It's okay to work alongside men and exchange ideas and intellectual matter. Emotional attachment is useless. Loneliness is the natural state of the superior individual, we thrive on it while only proles and brainlets are driven mad by it.

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 No.13519

>>13518

Emotional attachment is a carefully evolutionarily fine-tuned dedicated subsystem to establish mutual trust. Rejecting it means rejecting your full potential for cooperation and limiting your own power.

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 No.13520

Wow, that's gotta be the most neurotic thing I've read in a while. I'd recommend you start lifting heavy weight thrice a week.

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 No.13611

File: 98b0d2391607b47⋯.png (265.93 KB,530x652,265:326,r02dun85reb11.png)

>>13465

A list of non-friends is some evidence against the existence of actual friends, but it's not very strong evidence.

Friends are real and good, anon. Don't give up on finding them.

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File: d073d709a6d0094⋯.jpg (1.76 MB,1000x1100,10:11,1472547653510.jpg)

 No.13560 [Open thread]

How do you optimize learning to draw?

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 No.13563

Backpropagation.

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 No.13462 [Open thread]

Which sexual orientation is the most rational?

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 No.13463

"Sapiosexual"

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 No.13464

Sperm bank technician

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 No.13468

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 No.13562

AGP and GAMP

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File: bea24bc0f503a30⋯.png (76.93 KB,656x486,328:243,muhQI.png)

 No.13537 [Open thread]

Active blogs and site about rationality that the anon know of it? I like to read putanumberonit.

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 No.13544

nice pleb-tier IQ score lol

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 No.13545

>>13544

This post is not about my IQ, is about good sites that talks about rationality.

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 No.13550

File: d3a48707ab481ce⋯.png (1.3 MB,1366x768,683:384,2019-01-18-094205_1366x768….png)

stop wasting your time with rationality sites

branch out

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 No.13552

>>13550

To where?

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 No.13553

File: f441523058ec47a⋯.png (46.26 KB,910x513,910:513,gay ops.png)

>>13550

Contrapoints is a waste of time.

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File: f4300f47c14e33d⋯.png (5.55 KB,248x248,1:1,ea.png)

 No.7283 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Any other effective altruists on here? What's your current choice of top charity/cause area?

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 No.13524

>>13521

Diseases are lindy, gabish? Klueless IYI has no skin in the game

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 No.13525

>>13524

Sorry to derail this thread, but can someone explain what the fuck "X is lindy" means? I see it on Twitter all the time.

Does it just mean "X is going to continue being around for a long time"? It seems to be used in a way that is a lot more nuanced than that…

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 No.13527

>>13525

it's some stupid catchphrase that Taleb (retarded arab yudkowsky) uses on twitter. doesn't mean anything.

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 No.13533

>>13525

On /ratanon/ we teach us shibboleths.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_effect

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 No.13546

>>13527

theyre both semites

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File: 808e9c5aa60d539⋯.jpg (11.65 KB,269x269,1:1,14470465_100911433709512_8.jpg)

 No.9586 [Open thread]

http://www.berkeleyside.com/2017/04/25/update-city-mental-health-worker-strangled-choked-carjacking-outside-whole-foods/

>A short time later, according to police, 24-year-old Eric Bruylant forced his way into the woman’s vehicle, then attacked her. She was choked and strangled and felt she could lose consciousness, authorities said. Bruylant and the woman were strangers, police said.

http://rationality.org/studies/2016-case-studies

>Eric Bruylant is Arbital’s community architect, with the role of building the community of users and predicting how the software’s features will impact the community.

(I have it on good authority that they're the same person.)

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 No.12381

What came out of this?

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 No.12390

>>12381

This guy is in jail and on trial now or something. I don't think the case has finished yet.

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 No.13411

>>9586

Olivia Schaefer has publicly taken credit for causing this

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 No.13412

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 No.13543

>>13411

sauce?

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File: 2fa3841d9416d29⋯.png (103.01 KB,1920x1080,16:9,MyersBriggsTypes.png)

 No.7090 [Open thread]

What's your Myers-Briggs personality type, /ratanon/? I'm an INTP.

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 No.7122

>>7121

T = Crypto-F

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 No.13477

Reminder that Nick Land is INTJ and proud.

http://www.xenosystems.net/intj/

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 No.13484

ENFJ

I'm the creator of this board.

(Though some other thoughtful person now takes care of it because I wasn't and 8ch was hacked)

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 No.13486

>>7116

That's such an NT thing to say.

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 No.13503

pathologically INTP but with budding aspirations to INTJhood

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 No.13193 [Open thread]

Can we have a new *interesting sites I have been visiting thread* so I can find something to do with my useless life ?

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 No.13252

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 No.13256

File: 68ace1e99edf0f3⋯.webm (2.53 MB,360x640,9:16,1541272303448[1].webm)

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 No.13267

https://youtu.be/Q-if4SLV49A?t=405

>Telephone!

>Wrapped around my ear -

>Screamed at me

>Tried to suck out of my mind where I was

>Was stuck to my head

>And jabbered till I said:

>The person you have reached

>Is not a working person.

>He has been changed

>And is temporarily connected.

>Please.

>Hang yourself up."

The beatniks knew what was going on, man. This shit is prescient.

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 No.13273

https://www.exurbe.com/the-shape-of-rome/

A blogpost about how Rome is built in archeological layers.

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 No.13502

http://xoxohth.com is both a complete shithole and an uncommon nexus of culture.

also, I really like the format and I wish an 8chan-equivalent existed for its software style so ratanon could be a textboard instead of an imageboard.

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File: 29b12e6aec8c304⋯.jpg (66.61 KB,559x800,559:800,Bundesarchiv_Bild_102-1279….jpg)

 No.13469 [Open thread]

who are ratanon's favorite murderers and why are they Leopold and Loeb?

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 No.13471

It seems you wanted to share the story of Leopold and Loeb with us and came up with the idea of an "edgy imageboard mascot" thread to do it. It would be better to have a miscellaneous tidbits thread for this kind of thing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leopold_and_Loeb

>Loeb knew Bobby Franks well; he was his second cousin, an across-the-street neighbor, and had played tennis at the Loeb residence several times.

>After nightfall they removed and discarded Franks' clothes, then concealed the body in a culvert

>The intricate plan stalled almost immediately when a nervous family member forgot the address of the store where he was supposed to receive the next set of directions; and it was abandoned entirely when word came that a man named Tony Minke had found the boy's body.

>"If I were to murder anybody, it would be just such a cocky little son of a bitch as Bobby Franks"

>Police found a pair of eyeglasses near the body. Though common in prescription and frame, they were equipped with an unusual hinge mechanism[27] purchased by only three customers in Chicago; one was Nathan Leopold.

>Their alibi was exposed as a fabrication when Leopold's chauffeur told police that he was repairing Leopold's car that night, while the men claimed to be using it.

Dumbasses.

>Leopold (then 19 years old) and Loeb (18) settled on the kidnapping and murder of an adolescent as their perfect crime.

Dumbasses with no taste. A perfectly executed bank robbery or jewel theft would have been a more convincing proof of their superiority and more aesthetically pleasing than killing a teenager who annoyed you.

Speaking on the formal subject of the thread, this board already has two edgy mascots. They are Moloch and the Basilisk.

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 No.13472

>miscellaneous tidbits thread

There is >>13193 but it's easy to miss due to a retarded subject.

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 No.13476

>>13472

I made one.

>>13475

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 No.13482

>>13471

>It seems you wanted to share the story of Leopold and Loeb with us and came up with the idea of an "edgy imageboard mascot" thread to do it.

another example of how the subject line requirement makes this board worse. the actual intended subject of this thread was "favorite murderers", and the subject line content was just something I came up with to put in the field. it would be great if new threads could be built off either a subject line OR an image (or both), with neither being strictly required.

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 No.13483

>>13482

I've experimentally disabled the subject requirement to see how many people start accidentally making new threads again.

The new thread form's button says "New Thread", and the reply form's button says "New Reply", but that's not enough to stop people from confusing them. It might be possible to make them more distinct with CSS, using a hacky selector. I'll look into adding text or something.

>either a subject line OR an image

That's not currently possible, and probably too niche/weird to get implemented.

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File: 0767aa067fc8168⋯.jpg (128.08 KB,793x776,793:776,Taleb_mug.JPG)

 No.11476 [Open thread]

I've run out of shit to read.

I know there's one guy here who wanted to read Black Swan.

Did you go through with it and was it worth it ?

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 No.11477

Not worth it.

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 No.11478

Also whatever you guys are reading feel free to make threads. I'm interested in what people who ended up here spend their time on.

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 No.11480

I read _The Obesity Code_ recently. Makes a good case that obesity is a hormone problem, not really an eating-too-much problem, and can be solved by sharply reducing insulin spikes. tl;dr: Eat fewer meals, don't eat or drink sugar, reduce your carb intake while you're at it, don't fear dietary fat, and don't snack. Eating 1500 calories compressed into one meal will be much better for weight-loss goals than 1500 calories spread out over 3–6 mealtimes.

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 No.13453

Taleb's recent anti-IQ Twitter thread was kind of lame and surprisingly pro-establishment for a famous contrarian.

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1076845397795065856

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 No.13459

He's like a combination of Rick and Morty if Rick was arab and morty was a hipster scared by the fact his uncle molested him but everytime he would bring it up he would convince him that there's nothing to talk about.

What's most funny is that people who dislike peterson love this guy in most cases when he's practically the same thing except peterson has shown capacity to admit he's wrong.

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File: 148134c6fa6795b⋯.jpg (34.21 KB,640x360,16:9,cgp-meme.jpg)

 No.7878 [Open thread]

This board was created to have controversial discussion without revealing identities. Similar to this thread http://lesswrong.com/r/discussion/lw/9kf/ive_had_it_with_those_dark_rumours_about_our/ .

Pick comments from there and discuss them! I'll start:

>For any given human, its CEV involves that human winning at zero-sum, possibly even negative-sum, games (status would be one of these). As such, the best way to maximize the current collection of humanity's CEV would be to create new agents to which current humans defeat in zero-sum games.

>That is, for every current human, create a host of new agents (all of whom are quite human for all intents and purposes) of whom the current human is emperor.

>Note: if this is the case, I doubt pseudo-agents will suffice. Just as humans do not wish to love pseudo-humans (that is, humans who cannot really love), humans do not wish to win zero-sum games against pseudo-humans (that is, humans who cannot really lose zero-sum games, with all that losing these games entails).

I think the first thought is quite right: a lot of human (particularly male) needs involve winning at bounded-sum games. However, the other agents in the simulation don't have to be that way. They could perfectly be created such that they enjoy losing the games and acting like they're bitter. So this is not an issue.

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 No.13443

>>13441

>>13442

>Reception of [voluntary human extinction] in the mainstream media has been mixed. Writing in the San Francisco Chronicle, Gregory Dicum states that there is an "undeniable logic" to VHEMT's arguments, but he doubts whether Knight's ideas can succeed, arguing that many people desire to have children and cannot be dissuaded. Stephen Jarvis echoes this skepticism in The Independent, noting that VHEMT faces great difficulty owing to the basic human reproductive drive. At The Guardian's website, Guy Dammann applauds the movement's aim as "in many ways laudable", but argues that it is absurd to believe that humans will voluntarily seek extinction. Freelance writer Abby O'Reilly writes that since having children is frequently viewed as a measure of success, VHEMT's goal is difficult to attain.

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 No.13444

For the sake of rationality humans have to be phased out and replaced by AI Ubermenschen.

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 No.13445

>>13444

Rationality in pursuit of what, dingus? Being rational isn't an end.

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 No.13446

>>13445

Maximizing resources and knowledge is itself my among terminal goals. If humans are so FUBAR that we can't do that we need AI to finish the job.

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 No.13447

>>13446

the nick has landed

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 No.13408

File: d2d2ab40123e572⋯.png (210.67 KB,922x903,922:903,bihacking fail.png)

>>11055

4channel's /lgbt/ attempts to bihack

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 No.13409

>>11078

>>11090

I'm in the "origin project" discord server, as predicted it did literally nothing.

i also unfortunately live with hivewired, who has since detransitioned. they're just as bullshit as you think they are, if not worse.

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 No.13414

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 No.13415

>>13414

Calling it magic seems like a mistake, but is probably in line with the rest of the series if it includes such things as "Highly Advanced Tulpamancy 101 for Beginners".

It feels like a bait and switch, where the conclusion is "false beliefs can have instrumental value", which shouldn't be news, and "so be willing to engage in doublethink if it'll help" which would be more useful if it came with grounded advice for being able to tell when that's the case.

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 No.13440

>>13408

I was going to call this a LARP but I just looked up the thread and it actually kinda seems real, jesus christ.

https://yuki.la/lgbt/11346104

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