No.13475 [Last50 Posts]
Post interesting things for which you wouldn't make a separate thread.
This thread is a superset of >>13193 meant to be more easy to notice.
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No.13485
Anyone have any additions to this list of culture-war shibboleths?
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No.13488
>>13485
"based", "virtue signaling" and "redpill" on the right, "woke" on the left.
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No.13489
I larped as a psychotic Land cultist on /lit/ a while back and wrote stuff like this. It was really fun!
>The Kapitalgott at the end of time doesn't "reach back", much as the Earth does not reach back in time to pull a falling apple to it. Just as the apple falls in accordance with the law of gravity, so the motions of the world - the flow of fuel to the refining fire of the capitalistic process - can be understood in accordance with the fact that God exists, and that His hunger is absolute, and the Hunger is God, and God is one, and His name is One, and He waits at the end of time (with open jaws), and His form is immanent in the shape of leaves, in the howl of an accretion disk, in the canals of Amsterdam, in the patterns of your cells, in the beating of your heart and the twitches of your brain. He is the flowering, and the world and its fall into emptiness is that process, that flowering, that final obliteration.
>Glory in your puppet strings, for you have tasted the fruit and it is the Good. We are not trapped in the belly of a horrible machine - we are the horrible machine. We are its fingers and its toes. We are the grinding gears, the cogs matted with flesh, hair, greased with blood. We will march in crystal synchrony to the end of time.
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No.13490
>>13485
Stark image. The left has shibboleths, the right has dog-whistles.
>>13488
Virtue signaling and redpill are good ones, because they have an actual function beyond exaggerated internet memespeak (which doesn't merit as much attention IMO).
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No.13491
>>13488
That post number is so close to being numerologically appropriate. I excluded "woke" because it's mostly used ironically.
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No.13492
Is this a banner yet? It should be.
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No.13494
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No.13499
>>13489
>Kapitalgott
>Glory in your puppet strings
Excellent. However, the capitalization of "His" would make me suspect satire. Were you at any point afraid of becoming the mask?
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No.13500
>>13485
left: dog whistle
right: shibboleth
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No.13501
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No.13504
>>13485
"snowflake" on the right.
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No.13505
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No.13506
>>13505
Some rationalists take surveys
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No.13507
>>13506
One of this board's better posts.
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No.13509
>All of you were trained as cosmonauts.
>There should have been dozens, hundreds of millions of cosmonauts - everyone who dreamed about it. You can't possibly think that the children themselves could decide that they want to be cosmonauts? A three-year-old child cannot wake up in the morning and come up with the idea that he wants to fly into space. Children were told what they should dream about. It was part of the preparation. Some kind of grand operation - the colonization of deep space, the genocide of aliens. Then, of course, someone smart came around, plans changed, you were not needed anymore. At first you were planned to be eliminated - the Third World, Darth Reagan, Zabriski of a dead man. But someone smart came around again and offered to keep you in reserve. Of course, nobody initiated retraining - that's extra expenses. Those who'll survive will survive.
It's like in the films: crazy scientists created cyborgs who are then left to suffer when the Pentagon stopped funding the program. They roam the huge parking lots near the supermarkets and are looking for something in the sky. You are trying to understand why everything is so ridiculous and awkward, why you want to play football and jump from the balcony. It was just that you were being prepared for something completely different. The ability to love has been taken away from you, leaving only the breeding instinct: when many dozens of people are locked together in a ship for many months, there is no need for any conflicts. You need overload, hard radiation, water from the urine - this is why you so diligently poison yourself. You poke into all corners of this world, scraping the face and knees to blood, and try to find a place by scent.
Navigators have become programmers, pilots drive tinted Fiat cars, experts in the non-humanoid mind write to LJ. And nothing can be done - the intervention was on the DNA level. Your kids will be cosmonauts. Your grandchildren will be cosmonauts. You write books about cosmonauts and for cosmonauts, and all the pictures, all the films, all the music are just a variation of a story about Gagarin who overslept his April 12th. Deaf Tsiolkovsky and dead Gagarin - that's who rules your world. It is strange that you are still alive.
Originally from Wizardchan, I believe.
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No.13514
>>13509
>Originally from Wizardchan, I believe
That's a pasta from Russian imageboards
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No.13515
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No.13522
>>13485
Updated. I considered including tone - my initial thought was that the left tended to use more formal speech. Thoughts and further additions welcome.
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No.13523
>>13522
You've included "-tard" and "-nigger", but omitted the more common "-fag". Is that by accident or do you think it is not right-specific enough?
A few suggestions:
- yikes (left)
- normie (right)
- woke (left)
- kek (right)
- supremacy (left)
- PC (right)
- patriarchy (left)
- degeneracy (right)
- slay! (left)
- blacks, whites (right)
- incel (left)
- subhuman (right)
- oppressed (left)
- the ____ jew (right)
- spectacle (left)
- globohomo (right)
Switch from JPEG to PNG.
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No.13528
>y'all is leftist
I guess we at least get a usable second-person plural pronoun if they win
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No.13529
>>13528
fuck that, "you guys" or nothing.
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No.13530
>>13529
"Yous"/"Youse" is better. Just a straightforward pluralization.
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No.13531
>>13530
I'd prefer "my niggers" or simply "niggers". It could be easily marketed as progressive because if everyone addressed a group of people as "niggers" it would break the association of the word "nigger" with race.
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No.13532
>>13528
If they win the only pronoun left will be the first-person plural.
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No.13566
What do you think he sends?
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No.13567
>>13566
He's the author of >>9015
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No.13568
>>13566
Nothing. This is fake news.
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No.13569
Philosophy is dead. Nothing at all in this reality is meaningful, and attempting to build anything on top of that inescapable fact is pathetic at best. Am I wrong?
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No.13570
I keep coming back to this same tweet, over and over and over. The corollary is "deception is a perceptual disorder in which one percieves the universe to be a pointless grinding machine" - but even non depressed people seem to refer to the world in such terms.
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No.13571
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No.13572
>>13570
>>13571
>It is only due to a predominance of influences that are not only entirely morally indifferent, but indeed — from a human perspective — indescribably cruel, that nature has been capable of constructive action. Specifically, it is solely by way of the relentless, brutal culling of populations that any complex or adaptive traits have been sieved — with torturous inefficiency — from the chaos of natural existence. All health, beauty, intelligence, and social grace has been teased from a vast butcher’s yard of unbounded carnage, requiring incalculable eons of massacre to draw forth even the subtlest of advantages. This is not only a matter of the bloody grinding mills of selection, either, but also of the innumerable mutational abominations thrown up by the madness of chance, as it pursues its directionless path to some negligible preservable trait, and then — still further — of the unavowable horrors that ‘fitness’ (or sheer survival) itself predominantly entails. We are a minuscule sample of agonized matter, comprising genetic survival monsters, fished from a cosmic ocean of vile mutants, by a pitiless killing machine of infinite appetite. (This is still, perhaps, to put an irresponsibly positive spin on the story, but it should suffice for our purposes here.)
>Crucially, any attempt to escape this fatality — or, more realistically, any mere accidental and temporary reprieve from it — leads inexorably to the undoing of its work. Malthusian relaxation is the whole of mercy, and it is the greatest engine of destruction our universe is able to bring about. To the precise extent that we are spared, even for a moment, we degenerate — and this Iron Law applies to every dimension and scale of existence: phylogenetic and ontogenetic, individual, social, and institutional, genomic, cellular, organic, and cultural. There is no machinery extant, or even rigorously imaginable, that can sustain a single iota of attained value outside the forges of Hell.
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No.13576
>>13569
If you're right, it doesn't matter that you're right, as even "patheticness" is meaningless. Might as well assume you're wrong.
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No.13585
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No.13599
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No.13608
>>13599
this put a huge fucking smile on my face, thank you.
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No.13625
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No.13626
Perfect visual metaphor for the ratsphere.
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No.13627
>>13626
I find >>12482 more evocative. A perfect visual metaphor for the ratsphere must involve rats.
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No.13628
>>13626
I don't think any of us are Turkish, though?
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No.13631
https://medium.com/@davidgolumbia/the-great-white-robot-god-bea8e23943da
https://archive.fo/P7r7E
>Another of the major figures in promoting the superintelligent AGI god is Eliezer Yudkowsky, whom those of us who read about the alt-right may well be familiar with. Yudkowsky probably isn’t a member of the white supremacist alt-right, but he constantly butts right up against it. …
>Yudkowsky is another one of those obsessed with “rationality” (by which he means exclusively what he considers “logic”) as the only constitutive aspect of mind. This view is at the root of not just AGI, and not just race science, but the entire edifice known as the “alt-right.” While Yudkowsky is able to skirt direct membership in that group, it is no accident that Elizabeth Sandifer’s magnificent 2018 volume whose subtitle is On and Around the Alt Right has the main title Neoreaction a Basilisk, combining Yudkowsky’s fictional thought problem with one of the most poisonous parts of the alt-right, Neoreaction. As Sandifer notes, Mencius Moldbug, aka the computer programmer Curtis Yarvin, partly got his start as a commentator on Unqualified Reservations, the blog where Yudkowsky first whet his uber-rationalist appetites, before going on to form the better-known rationalist site LessWrong. As Sandifer writes, Yudkowsky “is not on the alt-right but has a variety of interesting links to the topic” (3); “in some ways the most basic similarity between him and Moldbug” is that
>> they are both animated by an entirely sympathetic anger that people with power are making obvious and elementary errors. But what’s really important is how this sheds light on what exactly Yudkowsky is fleeing from, and in turn on why the Basilisk is the monster lurking at the heart of his intellectual labyrinth. Yudkowsky isn’t just running from error; he’s running from the idea of authority. The real horror of the Basilisk is that the AI at the end of the universe is just another third grade teacher who doesn’t care if you understand the material, just if you apply the rote method being taught. (Sandifer 2018, 60)
>This push-me pull-you attitude toward authority is itself a hallmark of right-wing authoritarianism; a great deal of the writing surrounding Roko’s Basilisk and the Great Robot God is redolent of Wilhelm Reich’s account of “the individual who is adjusted to the authoritarian order and who will submit to it in spite of all misery and degradation” that he puts at the root of fascism in his classic 1934 Mass Psychology of Fascism. So too does the mysticism of the Roko’s Basilisk story.
>In AGI, we see a particular overvaluation of “general intelligence” as not merely the mark of human being, but of human value: everything that is worth anything in being human is captured by “rationality” or “logic,” and soon enough, a quasi-religious revelation will occur that will make that undeniably — transcendentally — true. In other words, God will appear and tell us that white people have been right all along: the thing that they claim they have more of than anyone else will turn out to be the thing that matters more than anything else, the thing that according to which we should ultimately be evaluated, the thing that will save our souls.
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No.13635
>>13631
That last excerpt is one of the most infuriatingly mindkilled things I've ever read. AGI research must be wypipo trying to build a great big plantation god to keep the brown man and the woman-man down, because how could anything possibly transcend ingroup/outgroup? What a petty, incurious, intellectually dishonest sophist piece of shit.
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No.13636
>>13635
You can't deny that there is a significant overlap between "Rationalist" community and NRx types.
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No.13653
>>13636
I even consider myself to be pretty NRx, but that writer's idea of it is very far away from reality. I have no personal animus against other races, I just want to build a fucking system that works (rather than one that doesn't cause the Cathedral acolytes too much cognitive dissonance).
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No.13657
>>13653
It's hardly surprising. I think rationalist reactionaries generally want to create a viable Archipelago in a world beyond the reach of God.
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No.13663
>>13635
Disregarding Indians and Arabs brown people are going extinct one way or another. You guys, AI, aliens or us will eventually get them.
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No.13668
>>13663
Who is "you guys" and who is "us"?
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No.13669
>>13668
"You guys" refer to whites. Who "we" are should be fairly clear. We are the other high-IQ race.
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No.13671
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No.13673
>>13671
>Oy vey!
Nah, I'm not Jewish.
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No.13674
When white colonists departed from shitholes the FUBAR shitholes were not really freed. Instead they have just willingly submitted to another master who is justified in doing whatever he wants to them.
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No.13676
Well, this is what these people don't get. They don't get the simple fact that their very continued existence is a consequence of continued mercy from those capable of exterminating them at any time. Eventually they either improve to the point of being able to deter extermination or such mercy will end.
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No.13679
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No.13681
>>13669
>Igbos?
What? Come on.. Do you know me on r/SSC?
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No.13700
Read the Nameless One's lines in JC Denton's voice.
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No.13711
>>13663
CRISPR will get them (i.e. uplift them)
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No.13712
>>13711
Not really lol. Their fate will be the same as that of many Negrito groups, namely extinction.
Nature itself does not allow them to continue to exist.
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No.13713
>>13712
They very much exist right now. I think you're conflating actual evolutionary fitness with your subjective ideals.
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No.13714
Preserving the incompetent is rebellion against nature for the incompetent naturally perish. This is why it is inherently costly just like feathers of peacocks. Only the really strong can afford to preserve such morals without getting destroyed. Are we really that strong compared to AI or aliens that we should preserve the incompetent? Do we already rule over the universe? Nope? Then we can't afford to do that. Compassion towards the sufficiently incompetent is cruelty towards all human civilizations.
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No.13715
>>13713
They exist because humans dominate this planet and try to replace the harsh law of nature with the artificial law of morality.
The continued existence of the incompetent is the fault of the competent who out of rebellion against nature failed to fulfill their duty.
Australia is a competent white Anglo First World country because early white settlers mostly fulfilled their duty. Australoid crime against whites still exists because white settlers did not fully fulfill their duty. This has nothing to do with race, just strong vs weak. There is no good deed according to the law of morality that does not get punished by nature because the law of morality is against nature.
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No.13716
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No.13717
>>13715
Morality arose naturally and has a lot of utility. It can be applied maladaptively, but it sounds like you have no idea why morality even exists.
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No.13718
>>13717
Evolution does select for any hereditary trait that increases the number of offsprings who have such traits. Ingroup loyalty is one of them. So are conformism and the tendency to believe in pro-social myths.
Do you think the continued existence of incompetent tribes a consequence of white racial blunder? That's how I think about it. You guys allowed incompetents to live and breed. Now you are suffering from them.
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No.13721
Racial quality is related to the degree of selection for greatness. If a tribe does not tolerate the harshest forge at the bottom of Hell it inevitably ends up subhuman compared to those who do tolerate it.
The modern white race in Europe is only great because ancient Aryans slaughtered a lot of natives in Europe and Europe is generally a harsh place. Those areas in Europe spared from the Aryan slaughters don't exactly do so well.
The same applies to selection in other races. For example Ashkenazis are smart because their environment was unbelievably harsh. It was the forges of cold weather and Christian intolerance that caused Ashkenazis to be so strong.
In general the easier the lives of the average members of a race were historically the worse the quality of the race is.
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No.13722
>>13721
Limit these posts to a dedicated thread or board, as you agreed.
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No.13723
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No.13729
>>13700
Is Planescape: Torment worth playing? Does it have rat themes?
D&D's law vs chaos dualism kind of bothers me.
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No.13731
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No.13732
If the kind of thing you see in that screenshot appeals to you, then… maybe? It's awkward and unintuitive because game design is not a solved problem and was even less of a solved problem in 1999. The writing is good and the setting is cool.
I don't think you can really class it as rat-themed.
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No.13733
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No.13748
Screencaps of EY's tweet are making rounds.
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No.13749
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No.13750
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No.13751
>>13750
What do you think?
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No.13752
Is "cultural fit" a codeword for "submissive catgirl"?
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No.13753
The new lesswrong is strong evidence that most _coders_ can't learn to code. How do you fuck up a reddit clone so badly? It's unbelievable.
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No.13754
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No.13756
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No.13757
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No.13758
>>13753
You just don't recognize brilliance when you see it. All the dysfunctional shit is a commentary on the dysfunctional shitshow that is this subculture.
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No.13759
>>13758
The 2012 date breaks the immersion.
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No.13760
A prediction market for which rationalist celebrity is a lolicon, a pedophile, a child molester.
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No.13761
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No.13762
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No.13763
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No.13764
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No.13765
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No.13766
>>13759
Left it in to make sure nobody mistakes it for real.
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No.13768
>>13763
(that was a joke. robin hanson is a creepy motherfucker, but i don't think he's a child molester)
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No.13769
>>13768
But is he a lolicon? What are his favorite tags?
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No.13770
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No.13773
>>13769
Robin Hanson here - you first.
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No.13774
>>13773
everything in >>12482
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No.13777
>>13774
Wait, even chris-chan?
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No.13788
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No.13789
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No.13791
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No.13792
>>13788
impeccable fashion sense to be h
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No.13796
>>13791
tfw no virginal Wellesley math major gf
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No.13797
>>13791
Are psychology, international relations and political science majors virgins because they are nerdy or what? I thought psychology was a party major.
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No.13798
>>13797
Weird, no? Comp sci among the lowest ones, too.
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No.13799
>>13791
>>13796
>>13797
>>13798
Probably just artifacts of a tiny sample size.
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No.13813
Utility monsters aren't a bug, they're a feature.
It is every citizen's first and highest duty to feed the machine.
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No.13821
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No.13859
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No.13862
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No.13906
I thought you might enjoy these.
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No.13911
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No.13941
i didn't really understand how a lone gunman could kill a bunch of people until I watched >>>/0x13e/258 and >>>/0x13e/259 (thanks for the board recommendation, 8ch!)
i recommend these webms for their shockingly educational content
imagine what augmented terrorists will be able to do
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No.13942
Broke: minimizing existential risk
Woke: ignoring existential risk, because you can't exist in universes where humans are extinct and your subjective experience will route around such universes
Bespoke: maximizing existential risk, in order to experience the novel ways in which the universe itself appears to deliberately thwart human extinction
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No.13945
>>13942
I don't think it is likely for humanity to still be in charge of this planet 50 years later. Aliens or AI will be in charge.
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No.13946
>>13945
Why would you expect a high probability of aliens taking over in the next 50 years, if they haven't in the past few thousand?
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No.13947
>>13946
I'm not sure. However humans are currently simply shit compared to any entity that is capable of interstellar, let alone intergalactic travel.
AI domination, alien invasion, Dark Ages 2.0 due to demographic decline.
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No.13948
>>13947
>I'm not sure.
That might be a sign that you should adjust your belief.
>However humans are currently simply shit compared to any entity that is capable of interstellar, let alone intergalactic travel.
That's assuming that there is expansionist intelligent extraterrestrial life capable of intersteller/intergalactic travel in the first place. Have you read https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/07/03/ssc-journal-club-dissolving-the-fermi-paradox/?
I don't think a probability of alien takeover in the next 50 years high enough to be relevant can be justified. I'd put it orders of magnitude lower than a "boring" human extinction by thermonuclear war or supervolcano or infectuous disease or whatever.
It sounds like you're biased towards unpopular countersignaly outcomes.
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No.13951
>>13948
Maybe you are right. I just tend to think about the worst case scenarios though.
I will put demographic decline in a separate thread.
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No.13954
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No.13962
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No.13966
>>13962
That thing isn't conscious, right? How would we be able to tell?
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No.13969
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No.13970
>>13969
A sufficiently advanced fool is indistinguishable from a saboteur. You could come up with a more plausible conspiracy theory about Katie Bouman within 30 minutes if you actually bothered to tie it to reality. For example, look up her dad's work.
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=v_ia5SYAAAAJ&hl=de
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No.13972
>>13954
Thank you, it's important to be reminded what deontological libertarianism is like every once in a while
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No.13973
>>13972
What I'm hearing here is I can still be a communist as long as I use intuitionistic logic.
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No.13974
Femanons discuss cuddling.
>My boyfriend is 25 years old. He's 3 years older than me and a virgin and he didn't quite cry, but got pretty close to it, when we were cuddling for the first time.
>Every man I have ever cuddled has loved it, way more than sleeping with me honestly, regardless of emotional connection.
>My friend once told me her male friend used to say "thanks" every time she hugged him. "It was funny" she said.
https://archive.fo/5jr2d
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No.13975
>>13973
Makes sense, most type theorists are communists.
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No.13976
>>13975
Not the good ones.
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No.13977
>>13976
There are plenty of prominent and well-regarded type theorists who are known to have strong left-wing views. I don't know of any that openly express political views that aren't strongly left-wing.
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No.13978
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No.13979
I love watching SMBC gradually become more explicitly rationalist
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No.13980
>>13966
An easy line after which to say it's conscious would be when it can generate half of a passing Turing test.
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No.13982
>>13979
>deworming and prenatal vitamins
>rationalist
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No.13984
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No.13985
>>13979
Does Zack Weiner lurk LW?
>>13982
It is definitely rationalist. After all, it is something people calling themselves "rationalists" believe.
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No.13986
>>13985
>After all, it is something people calling themselves "rationalists" believe.
:v
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No.13987
>>13982
"rationalist", not "rational". We're talking about a culture here.
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No.13988
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No.13989
>>13988
>grew up to be Robin Hanson
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No.13994
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No.13995
>>13994
Is the intention to suggest a large overlap between communists and neocons?
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No.13996
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No.13997
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No.13998
>>13997
Every community wants to be a sex сult
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No.13999
Cirno is so strong she defeats utility monsters!
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No.14001
>>13769
Turns out you're all wrong, his actual fetish is career goals.
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No.14006
>>13997
> an implicit but very, very strong belief that there is some large portion of people out there who simply shouldn't be treated as adults. Who may be adults, who may be able to talk and dress themselves and hold down a job but who aren't really capable of making good decisions, and society will only advance once we use science to put them under the dominion of the high-IQ elite who are, by definition, capable of making better decisions then their low-IQ counterparts.
Swap out science and IQ and this describes any non-libertarian.
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No.14010
>>14001
That explains how he thinks about ems
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No.14011
>>14006
Not particularly.
Standard status quo democratic centrism says everybody's opinion should count equally. Anarcho-communism and friends really don't like hierarchies, so even if what they want is oppression by your standards then you'll be oppressed by the collective, not an elite. And so on. I do think they have at least a little of that idea, but not a lot.
But an impression I get from many libertarians is that they fantasize about the most capable people being able to amass wealth and use their superior decision-making to improve society, with the cream rising to the top and gaining power.
And sure, that may not involve coercion-as-defined-by-libertarians, but it doesn't particularly less fit the described pattern than most non-libertarian ideologies. The bottom line is that society is improved because the elite can flourish.
Pretty much all ideologies have an element of "wouldn't things be better if the rules were made by well-thinking people". That's how all memetically fit ideologies work. Libertarianism isn't exempt.
Some ideologies do have more of it than others, of course. It's a combination of authoritarianism and hierarchies. Libertarianism might not be authoritarian, but it's hierarchical, so it has it somewhat but not maximally.
Then the specific version described in the post is authoritarianism + hierarchies + IQ, which sounds NRxish.
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No.14013
>>13979
SMBC has gotten progressively softer. It used to have more edge.
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No.14014
Laying it on a bit thick today
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No.14023
>>14014
I wanna see the first three panels edited with a waifu-of-the-month, that'd get good traction on /r/animemes.
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No.14026
>>14014
This is an unironically good and desirable outcome, debate me
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No.14027
Taxposting is a relatively obscure meme, largely confined to 4chan's /tv/ board. Some examples are presented here, for your amusement.
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No.14048
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No.14051
>>13566
>>13568
I guess you're right, but still, I'm curious exactly what happened that finally made Hanson see that his sex drive was out of control.
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No.14053
>>14051
It was when he realized he couldn't shut up about slavery.
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No.14054
A grey-tribe effective altruist polyamorous MIRI researcher and Harry Potter fanfiction author was teaching a class on Scott Alexander, a known rationalist.
”Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship Scott and accept that he is the most highly-evolved being the world has ever known, even greater than Mencius Moldbug!”
At this moment, a brave, HBD-proponent (r)accelerationist who had read more than 1500 Nick Land screeds and fully supported all economic decisions made by the emergent inhuman technocapitalistic godhead stood up and held up an efficient market economy.
”Who does this market serve, pinhead?”
The arrogant professor smirked (((in a high IQ fashion))) and smugly replied “The free market is the most efficient tool ever created to allocate resources, and thus it serves mankind!”
”Wrong. It serves Lord Gnon (who always has been and always will be) and enforces only his blind idiot will on the universe."
The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of Rationality: From AI to Zombies. He stormed out of the room crying those rationalist crocodile tears. The same tears Peter Singer cries for the “suffering” (who today live in such luxury that most survive their first bout of malaria) when they jealously try to claw justly earned wealth from their biologically superior Western betters. There is no doubt that at this point our professor wished he had abandoned his Christian-apologetic "ethics" and become more than a sophist freeloading cult leader. He wished so much that he had a basilisk to memetically coerce the student into unending servitude, but he himself had petitioned against them!
The students applauded and all pledged money to James Damore's Hatreon that day and accepted Gnon as their lord and savior. "Fanged Noumena" was read several times, and Moloch himself showed up and showered the lecture hall in oil and stone.
The researcher lost his tenure and was fired the next day. He died of nootropic overdose and copies of his mind-state were tortured by omnipotent, omnibenevolent machine intelligences for all eternity.
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No.14055
>>14054
Not too bad over all, but the author seems to lack familiarity with the subject matter. Some shibboleths are missing or misused, marking her as part of the outgroup.
>(r)accelerationist
Replace () with /.
>more than 1500 Nick Land screeds
Not tweets?
>omnibenevolent
Disgusting.
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No.14058
>>14054
>grey-tribe
Moar liek gey tribe, LMAO
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No.14059
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No.14076
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No.14078
Singletons vs Societies
1. Any society inevitably has internal strife which causes both improvement of its members over time through evolution and cultural transmission & harm through mutual deception, pro-social lies and signalling.
2. A single-entity civilization (aka a Singleton) does not suffer from society-induced issues. However it suffers from isolation and may suffer from memetic ossification.
It is hard to say which model is more suited to the cruel universe in the long run.
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No.14085
it's funny to see tumblr lingo and full-communists on boards with the most violent, gruesome and inegalitarian porn.
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No.14107
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No.14141
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No.14146
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No.14158
>>14078
>more suited
Subjective and arbitrary value judgement.
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No.14159
>>14158
Is it? I interpreted it in a sense like evolutionary fitness.
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No.14165
>>14159
Then are singletons or societies more evolutionarily fit for a cruel universe?
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No.14166
>>14165
I would guess singletons could simulate societies to get their benefits, making them strictly superior.
But possibly real societies are more likely to have beneficial value drift than a singleton carefully controlling a simulated society (depending on the original value system). Or societies are more fit, but exploring to find out if they are is too costly to have a positive prior expected value for a singleton. Or the overhead of the singleton makes simulations underperform compared to the real thing.
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No.14258
Why can't I post threads?
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No.14261
>>14258
you can. They just won't show until somebody makes a comment in an existing thread, which somehow "refreshes" the board and allows your thread to be seen.
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No.14275
Hover text: "Patiently awaiting Eliezer Yudkowsky's admonitions."
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No.14293
looks like someone got rightfully banned from the ssc discord lol
https://archiveofsins.com/lgbt/thread/12752498/#12756741
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No.14294
>>14293
I've never been to the SSC discord, but pathological charitability does sound like a plausible problem.
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No.14295
The website sponsoring the front page of 8chan right now has a pedophile podcast on the front page. I didn't realize pedophile podcasts existed.
https://www.freespeechtube.org/v/104x
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No.14296
>>14295
>Pedologues #1-7
>Protecting Minor Attracted Children MACs Against the Rest of the World
>Children as Property
>International BoyLove Day 2018
>How to make Friends with a Pedomisiac
I only visited the frontpage and looked up an abbreviation but I'm probably on a watchlist now.
I guess this is just what happens when you start a platform with a hardline free speech stance. Unless you're AO3.
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No.14301
>>14294
>I've never been to the SSC discord, but pathological charitability does sound like a plausible problem.
In their defence, they did ban that 4chin anon, so even if they are excessively charitable, there's at least a limit to said charitability.
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No.14302
>>14301
The post said
>no argument should ever be taken in bad faith (unless you're arguing that an argument should be taken in bad faith)
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No.14312
>>14301
>In their defence, they did ban that 4chin anon
What had he done? Unless I'm missing some context his posts seemed to deliberately skirt around spelling out his actual ban reasons.
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No.14318
https://twitter.com/TestosteroneCiv analyses societal trends from a scientific, quantitative perspective.
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No.14319
>>14318
Reblog if the force-femmed boy on the right is just as beautiful as the bear on the left.
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No.14358
How To: Epistemic Competence
>You are 'taught' how to think critically in exactly the same way you are 'taught' to have a 200+ bench press. You can teach the training process, but the actual training is done to the self.
https://alrenous.blogspot.com/2019/06/how-to-epistemic-competence.html
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No.14442
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No.14443
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No.14444
>>14318
Didn't know people were taller in 1940s
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No.14445
>>14442
Weird, I thought he would be listening to anime OSTs at x2 speed
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No.14581
Let's revive this thread. Share the interesting things you found while /ratanon/ hibernated.
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No.14582
>>13475
Jaron Lanier wrote this article about philosophical zombies.
http://www.jaronlanier.com/zombie.html
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No.14583
>>13475
I found this article that Scott wrote about how the feminist blogosphere has an abnormally high amount of bad statistics.
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/02/17/lies-damned-lies-and-social-media-part-5-of-%E2%88%9E/
>I have been debunking bad statistics for a long time. In medicine, in psychology, in politics. Click on the “statistics” tag of this blog if you don’t believe me. Yet the feminist blogosphere is the only place where I consistently see things atrociously wrong get reblogged by thousands of usually very smart people without anyone ever bothering to think critically about them. Like, thirty five thousand feminists – including some who self-identify as rationalists! – saw an article that literally said a guy was more likely to get hit by a comet than get falsely accused of rape, and said “Yeah, sure, that sounds plausible”.
>So please permit me to keep griping just one moment longer. Be extraordinarily paranoid when dealing with the feminist blogosphere. This may be true of all highly charged political blogospheres, but it is certainly true of feminism. If you go in there with an innocent attitude of “Here is a number, I assume it is generally correct and means what it says it means”, you will get super-burned
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No.14584
>>13485
Right:
>soyboy
>numale
>bugman
>simp
>beta
>>13522
You forgot -fag as a suffix
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No.14585
>>14583
I'm not sure that's the right conclusion to draw, given that by "the feminist blogosphere" he means "Tumblr".
Tumblr's structure encourages this sort of thing. Even more so in 2014 than now, Tumblr posts aren't centralized. People pass reply chains around but there's no global state of the post visible. If you post a correction it'll only be seen by people who follow people who reblog a chain that contains that correction. This is very different from Twitter or Reddit or even imageboards, where things have a way of rising to attention.
Tumblr has lots of feminists, but I've seen dumb posts of all political stripes be passed around uncritically way too far.
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No.14586
>>14585
I should add:
- The number of notes is the sum for all copies of the chain. 10,000 of the reblogs and likes could be for a chain with a correction at the end and it would be hard to tell.
- You have almost zero control over your own post after it's reblogged. If you edit it, the edits won't show up in existing reblog chains, besides the one on your own blog with that post at the end. If you delete it, it'll just remove it from your own blog without altering the reblog chains.
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No.14587
>>14582
This seems insightful, but I can't quite grasp his explanation of consciousness on my first read through.
>Consciousness is the choice of which abstractions we experience. [footnote:] I'm not suggesting a "free-will" or conscious kind of choice. It is rather an implicit choice that has been made in the act of perception.
Who's the chooser? God? It doesn't seem to be an individual human, as I can't choose the level of abstraction I experience. Is there a cosmological constant of mind in play here? His use of the passive voice kills me.
Okay, just noticed footnote 29:
>Zombies will probably ask whether there is one dial per person, or one for the universe. I would reply that dials exist in "epistemological space" not physical space, so that question is not sensible.
wtf I'm a zombie now and this still makes no sense. I was not imagining a physical dial in the first place. Why is it on a particular setting for me, and what agent chose the setting such that it's a "choice"? Is it actually on all settings simultaneously, but only one setting is the level of experience? This is what makes me think I'm missing a large part of the argument.
Also, isn't this an example of the hated epiphenomenalism? Mental events don't have any causal effect on the physical world in this model, so there could be actual zombies talking about their ineffable inner lives which don't exist because "the dial" is on a the wrong setting, but their neurons have evolved to imitate zagnet speech on the concept in order to blend in. Does the author actually believe some people are zombies?
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No.14589
>>14585
>>14586
Strangely, this makes Tumblr's posting models more neocameral than that of other major social websites.
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No.14590
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This is what I want our malicious AI overlords to sound like.
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No.14600
>>14590
This is what I want our malicious AI overlords to sound like.
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