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File: 64a5b2b3b338d61⋯.jpg (885.3 KB,1200x1200,1:1,cover.jpg)

 No.12791 [Open thread]

What is /ratanon/'s taste in music?

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 No.12796

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>12793

>another rationalist into lolicore

DUDE

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 No.12797

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 No.12798

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 No.12802

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 No.12804

Soundcloud embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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File: 4d99a21f8e5e25e⋯.png (221.91 KB,750x1000,3:4,boomer.png)

 No.12741 [Open thread]

*unscrew* *swallow*

Ahhhh… Yep, caffeine pills, now there's an optimized way to get your daily stimulants

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 No.12776

>>12772

needs a loss edit

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 No.12779

Modafinil is more optimal than caffeine.

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 No.12781

>>12745

If you hate coffee so much, just drink tea, or coca-cola, or red bull, you mongoloid.

It's not to "pretend you're not addicted", just taking it in a pill is fucking joyless. A rationalist who's advanced beyond Straw and Spock knows that doing things the most robotically efficient way isnot always synonymous with winning.

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 No.12782

>If you hate coffee so much, just drink (multiple for the same dose) drinks that require preparation or have harmful side effects

Why would I do that when I could pop a pill?

>Just taking it in a pill is fucking joyless

A rationalist who's advanced beyond being irrational knows better than to commit the typical mind fallacy. Taking a strange white pill to get stimulated is a fun placebomantic ritual, reminiscent of taking a Real Stimulant and the associated excitement.

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 No.12786

>>12782

Not to mention the obvious point that such a rationalist can dedicate the saved time to having fun in a more, yes, efficient way than fidgeting with coffee like some wannabe barista.

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File: 2e3ac02b4465634⋯.jpg (18.67 KB,163x250,163:250,TheNurtureAssumption.jpg)

 No.12769 [Open thread]

Is The Nurture Assumption worth reading if I read the ssc review ?

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 No.12760 [Open thread]

>Virginian cavalier speech patterns sound a lot like modern African-American dialects. It doesn’t take much imagination to figure out why, but it’s strange to think of a 17th century British lord speaking what a modern ear would clearly recognize as Ebonics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luu9PzxkQ6E

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 No.12050 [Open thread]

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 No.12147

>>12129

That actually makes a lot of sense. I fully support such a study on East-Africans now.

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 No.12149

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 No.12744

>>12114

Is there anything more about these theory and incident? I failded to google it.

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 No.12756

>>12129

How the fuck do you force a dolphin into "prostitution"? Was it paid in fish?

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 No.12757

>>12129

Can we get a source?

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File: dc08f85ac65a65b⋯.png (929.17 KB,1500x500,3:1,weird sun last supper.png)

 No.6021 [Open thread]

which weird sun seems the most suicidal to you

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 No.6024

>>6023

None of them.

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 No.11412

>>6021

Harsher in hindsight, this.

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 No.11415

>>6023

None. Delete your twitter.

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 No.12753

Who is the best active weird sun and why is it Curl is Gradient?

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 No.12755

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File: 9b2ef2c6fb37976⋯.jpg (52.97 KB,600x800,3:4,001.jpg)

 No.12751 [Open thread]

I thought /ratanon/ might be interested in this, it's a new HN-style link-aggregator exclusively for academic papers, with features such as subscribing to certain tags via rss, etc.

http://paperkast.com/

The community is very small atm. and doesn't have a lot of discussion, but that's why I'm sharing it, in hope it finds some appeal under fellow academics.

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File: 8f6bc3097ca1540⋯.png (70.76 KB,554x306,277:153,ClipboardImage.png)

 No.12738 [Open thread]

I know you lurk here.

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 No.12739

Stealing from the tip jar seems like a plausible lapse if one is sufficiently sleep-deprived. Immortalizing the mortification in a blog post seems more puzzling. But what I _really_ want to know is why Aaronson decided to move from MIT to Texas, of all places—that decision really baffles me.

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 No.12740

>>12739

Dijkstra had good things to say about computer science at Texas.

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File: 2b59366dddd8358⋯.jpg (61.39 KB,640x425,128:85,Rat_diabetic.jpg)

 No.6624 [Open thread]

I had rape fantasies until I actually had sex. Then I realized the thing I enjoyed most was the other person having Fun.

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 No.12714

>>12713

I think you mispelled SlateStarCodex

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 No.12715

>>12712

Hm, interesting. I guess I expected that the gay social scene would be more welcoming of traditional stoic masculinity than the larger leftist milieu.

As far as explaining the top-bottom gap, I'm not sure if the arrow of causation goes from manly-men being looked down upon to a scarcity of tops. Couldn't it be adequately explained by gay men just… tending to be mincing fairies? Or maybe most men who want to fuck a cute pliant thing just stick to women because it's more socially accepted?

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 No.12717

>>12715

> gay social scene would be more welcoming of traditional stoic masculinity than the larger leftist milieu.

Lol, masculine gays are not even supposed to exist.

"Queers United Against Straight Acting Homosexuals (QUASH) was the organization in Chicago that published a often cited article in their newsletter in 1993. Titled; "Assimilation is Killing Us Fight For a Queer United Front.

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 No.12719

>>12717

And yet they are blatantly desired.

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 No.12720

>>12717

But what about bears? What about Jack Donovan?

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File: ef5880af52f4e9c⋯.png (75.23 KB,809x410,809:410,ClipboardImage.png)

 No.12664 [Open thread]

bam

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 No.12685

>>12664

Okay, but how much do we need to spend on malaria nets to make Scott actually review Bronze Age Mindset? It can't be that high.

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 No.12686

>>12685

I'd rather have him review other non-normie books that aren't shit.

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 No.12695

File: 88bdf94918d610f⋯.jpg (32.03 KB,401x401,1:1,the_monkey_mentality.jpg)

I want him to review the Gorilla Mindset

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 No.12716

File: 4ce0b2d08dbc299⋯.png (25.43 KB,1036x140,37:5,Screenshot_20180826-212208.png)

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File: fe294b4fb9c1a34⋯.jpg (121.76 KB,350x350,1:1,R-12176534.jpg)

 No.12703 [Open thread]

>It’s hard to overstate how unprecedented that is: The president of the United States just directed the secretary of state to look into a racist conspiracy theory he saw on Fox News — a conspiracy theory that is a major talking point for white nationalists and neo-Nazis.

>Whether or not it’s actually true is irrelevant.

What the fuck is happening to journalism ?

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 No.12704

Do you have a link, and did you read the full thing? It sounds too juicy not to be taken at least a little out of context.

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 No.12705

Alright, I looked it up.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/23/17772056/south-africa-trump-tweet-afriforum-white-farmers-violence

Half the article is spent explaining that it definitely isn't true. It doesn't leave open the possibility of it being true.

Then it says that Trump has agencies at his command that could give him accurate information on demand, to make informed decisions.

It combines those two things to argue that Trump must have immediately directed the secretary of state to look into it, and made a public announcement, without making sure it's true.

Only then, at the very end, does it use the two paragraphs you quoted to say that that course of action is bad in general.

Poor wording, definitely, but not nearly as objectionable in context. They didn't put this part at the start of the article either, so it's not the usual headline-style motte-bailey switcharoo.

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 No.12707

I initially wrote a gigantic shitpost of a reply but I deleted it.

The ending part which I posted doesn't add anything to the article and it makes absolutely no sense. It's even worse in context.

>wow let me just treat this subject and then say it's irrelevant if it is actually true or not even though I said it's not true because Trump saw it on TV on a channel that didn't shit on him non-stop during the elections.

The writer is just retarded and should be fucking fired but we are living in the age of journalism soft shitposting so maybe it's just bait.

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 No.12708

>Trump is now basing US foreign policy decisions on a fringe white nationalist conspiracy theory

>writing a tweet is a US foreign policy decision

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File: 5569734085ca8ec⋯.png (109.97 KB,611x578,611:578,great filter.png)

 No.12589 [Open thread]

Does pic related solve the Great Filter problem?

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 No.12590

Space is extremely empty, and there are natural signals to compare to.

I haven't done the math, but the chance that people involved with SETI haven't is nil.

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 No.12591

No. On cosmological timescales the time between a technological civilization arising and them conquering the galaxy is essentially an instant. Detection through broadcast is just a red herring. The existence of isolated technological civilizations just happening to come into being at the same time as us is extremely improbable.

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 No.12593

>>12591

this

Exponential growth is one hell of a drug.

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 No.12702

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 No.12706

There is some discussion at https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/17765/from-how-far-away-could-our-seti-searches-detect-and-recognize-our-technological .

Apparently, we do not yet have big enough radio telescopes to detect "leaking" Earth-like radio signals from another planet, so SETI hoped to discover an intensional signal. For example, many early SETI efforts searched for a radio signal around the "water hole" frequency, hoping that would be a Schelling point for trying to communicate with aliens.

But the great filter problem is not just about Earth-like civilizations. Fermi thought that technological civilizations should quickly become big enough to settle entire galaxies, so then the "great filter" is whatever prevents that—just inverse-square radio signals is not an explanation for that.

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File: 8d56d61b6dbb765⋯.png (28.75 KB,877x333,877:333,he really did.png)

 No.12658 [Open thread]

I want to choke myself into a coma on Scott's flaccid, asexual penis while he plays Sid Meier's Civilization™ IV: Beyond the Sword and ignores me completely!

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 No.12666

>>12658

Don't we all?

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 No.12680

I just realised I unironically read peterson's new book because of his book review, I wish he did more book reviews

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 No.12692

>unironically reading jordan peterson

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 No.12693

>>12692

>ironically reading something

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 No.12694

>Being "internet famous" has mostly brought me grief online, but in real life it's been a really good supplement to my lack of sociability. Some people who know me online seek me out and pre-emptively like me, which is a useful counter to my reluctance to go out in social situations and do the usual dance of things that help me get to know people and seem likeable.

Now I want to be internet famous.

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File: b3fb33ec262f51f⋯.jpg (13.38 KB,280x280,1:1,a4e83ba94b6f66f680451b1663….jpg)

 No.12687 [Open thread]

>>>75805

ayy lmao

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 No.12688

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 No.12689

>>>/leftpol/75805 is the proper syntax.

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 No.12690

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File: e47370fd704b283⋯.jpg (133.7 KB,350x350,1:1,R-12019447.jpg)

 No.12630 [Open thread]

I'm having a hard time finding an answer to a question.

How in the fuck and why did early organic "life" start replicating.

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 No.12633

>>12632

If something gets assembled that will on average reproduce more often than it will die, then you can get more of that thing, possibly exponentially so.

Most things that were in principle capable of replicating may not have made that bar, and did immediately die. But it only takes one.

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 No.12634

File: cbb165427b8094a⋯.gif (2.92 MB,356x359,356:359,tumblr_ou0qlqWoCd1qckzoqo1….gif)

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 No.12637

>>12634

Relevant part

>This means clumps of atoms surrounded by a bath at some temperature, like the atmosphere or the ocean, should tend over time to arrange themselves to resonate better and better with the sources of mechanical, electromagnetic or chemical work in their environments

If the theory behind this is correct, it would probably rather lead to minerals forming that absorb a lot of light.

(There certainly is an *evolutionary* advantage to being an efficient heat engine, i.e. absorb sunlight and radiate excessive heat efficiently, so one wouldn't need any new physics to explain what self-replicators tend to look like, once they are around.)

It is very much possible btw that Earth is one of very few planets in the universe to develop life at all. Emergence of self-replicators might therefore not be a once-in-ten-billion-years-per-planet-surface event, but might be billions of times more rare.

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 No.12640

"Spontaneous fine-tuning to environment in many-species chemical reaction networks"

http://www.pnas.org/content/114/29/7565

"Self-Organized Resonance during Search of a Diverse Chemical Space"

https://journals.aps.org/prl/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.119.038001

"DNA as UV light–harvesting antenna"

https://academic.oup.com/nar/article-pdf/46/7/3543/24677199/gkx1185.pdf

"DNA Denaturing through Photon Dissipation: A Possible Route to Archean Non-enzymatic Replication"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6027432/

"Robust self-replication of combinatorial information via crystal growth and scission"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3340064/

"Vortex flows impart chirality-specific lift forces"

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms6640

"Ice as a protocellular medium for RNA replication"

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms1076

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 No.12653

>>12640

Thanks for this. I'm kinda brainlet when it comes to math,like I didn't understand all the math from the study posted in the article above but it won't stop me from trying to understand.

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