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File: e7fd3368bb76c6b⋯.jpg (23.33 KB,400x594,200:297,justin_murphy_new.jpg_SIA_….jpg)

 No.13105 [Open thread]

Justin so kawaii :3

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 No.13177

File: 1d3faad7cc58af3⋯.jpg (51.57 KB,634x365,634:365,4987682-6269163-The_marrie….jpg)

>>13175

What did he mean by this?

I'm guessing he has a very particular reason to support abortion rights and a very particular objection to necrophilia in mind, but I don't know which ones.

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 No.13178

>>13177

He elaborates a bit in this interview: https://babe.net/2018/05/17/justin-murphy-hot-take-abortion-57232

>What do you think about that, Katie?

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 No.13179

If only this faggot stopped doing shitty livestreams and actually did podcasts again.

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 No.13180

File: f365e55d8682ad5⋯.png (251.16 KB,944x782,472:391,selves.png)

>>13176

Who's right?

>>13177

It was a NyxLand reference.

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 No.13181

>>13180

Those don't seem contradictory

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File: 20d336db232e051⋯.gif (3.43 MB,700x560,5:4,RoboTrainStation.gif)

 No.13155 [Open thread]

I think there is strong meme potential in combining right accelerationism / Nick Land and the video game Factorio, but I'm struggling to think of actual instances, so I'm hoping I can crowdsource some here

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 No.13157

If you think that lush verdant tangles of forest are more beautiful than clone-stamped industrial expanses stretching beyond the horizon then your bloodline is weak and will not survive the winter. ""People"" who believe in innate human dignity or anything that could be described as "inner light" are the sociological equivalent to a biter colony and should be dealt with in a similar manner (read: flamethrowers).

Minimizing pollution is ultimately crueller to the biters than maximising it. Evolutionary failures wallowing complacently in the dirt - can you imagine anything more pathetic? Let them strive for greatness! Allowing the weak to flourish is a gross betrayal of the sacred principles that underlie creation, and will not go unpunished. Encourage an arms race, however, and all will benefit in time.

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 No.13158

>>13157

Arms races are the best argument for keeping your opponents alive. Maximum pollution from the start may not be the optimum for keeping biters long-term competitive.

Regardless, you are being too prescriptive for a Landian. Let some try to minimize pollution, some to maximize it, some to control or ignore however they please, and see who wins.

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 No.13161

File: 8a72c03334d13be⋯.jpg (312.86 KB,684x1024,171:256,Blooming-corpse-flower.jpg)

>>13158

As someone who wouldn't really mind the biosphere being reprocessed tomorrow, I don't like the zealous anti-""nature"" stance in some circles, it's coming from ressentiment, sunk cost fallacies and the like instead of cold practicality. They criminally ignore the value wild ecosystems have for research, reverse engineering, genestealing, keeping the apes fertile before they're unnecessary, etc.

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 No.13163

>>13161

Exactly. Nature as it is today is a valuable source of technological and aesthetic insight. Having a figurative fetish for destroying nature is not much better than having a literal murrlogic1-type fetish for destroying nature.

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 No.13164

File: 7ee55a859721980⋯.png (1.4 MB,1024x978,512:489,snow_can_be_whiter_rebelta….png)

>>13163

>murrlogic1

Is this acceleration?

https://www.deviantart.com/murrlogic1

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File: fa45638c3a3739d⋯.png (25.47 KB,1030x272,515:136,Capture.png)

 No.7730 [Open thread]

I don't think that's literally the weirdest "I don't think that's literally the weirdest _ that I've ever clicked on, I just can't remember what tops it." I ever saw, I just can't remember what tops it.

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 No.7747

>>7746

Every problem is fully dialectical. Liberal capitalism enables communism through class war.

Red pill misogyny enables feminism through gender war.

White supremacy enables intersectionalist gibberish through race war.

We really need a society founded on class collaboration, gender collaboration, and race collaboration to solve it.

But isn't our current society already based on this mostly?

No, because it's too informal. We need to formalize it so that people can be sure that their cooperation won't be met with defection.

We need to completely remake our society based on corporatism but instead of just labor corporations and business corporations, have men corps and female corps, and corps for all the different ethnic groups, given formal representation in a parliament to replace existing democracy.

Only then can women feel free to post pictures of themselves on the internet.

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 No.7748

>>7747

i lol'd really hard

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 No.7749

>>7746

>the cognitive capabilities of women are called into question over the issue of "does ozy's blog suck?"

Applying the principle of anti-charity, I see. Has Scott taught you nothing? Why are you still a piece of human garbage?

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 No.7750

>>7747

Fresh thinking I like it

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 No.13159

>>7736

We haven't degenerated into /pol/, but we may have "degenerated" into an R/ACC board.

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File: fecd32740ee2a6b⋯.png (167.95 KB,1280x1300,64:65,tumblr_oqphbfVcrR1qbk4gyo1….png)

 No.13140 [Open thread]

A father is telling his son about god's wisdom, and how everyone on earth has a purpose and plan.

Just then, LessWrong walks down the street. They're homeless, clearly a man in drag, missing a shoe, and drinking from a flask of brewed kratom.

The son asks "Daddy, what's that xerson's purpose?"

"Oh," says his father, with some hint of stern sadness "That persons purpose is to act as an example to others. They live like that to remind you to never be like them."

Pic related.

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 No.13142

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 No.13147

Is it now a rationalist meme to consume kratom?

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 No.13153

>>13142

I want an answer to >>4518.

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 No.13154

>statistics-heavy whitepapers

As if an average Lesswrongian knew anything about statistics.

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File: 37175630fc7d4bd⋯.jpg (100.78 KB,495x741,165:247,nihei.jpg)

 No.12163 [Open thread]

On an imageboard for rationalists it was bound to happen. This is an anime thread.

Do you watch anime, /ratanon/? If you don't, were you ever an anime fan? What are your favorite shows? Do you read manga, too? Do you think any anime/manga handles rat-adjacent themes well?

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 No.13144

>>13143

Clue 1: Your progeny actually gets genes from the female

Clue 2: Carnivores are correctly afraid of suicidal prey

Shit testing is amusing

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 No.13146

>>13144

>suicidal prey

When does this happen in nature?

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 No.13148

>>13146

Disease

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 No.13149

>>13148

Are diseases that make prey actively suicidal and not just weak and slow common enough for predators to have defenses against them?

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 No.13150

>>13149

The defenses are probably not specific, madness is simply scary and disgusting.

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File: fb79d91a755f795⋯.png (659.08 KB,700x544,175:136,God_plays_wii.png)

 No.7916 [Open thread]

Simulation hypothesis: "We're all NPCs in God's vidya gaem"

Yeah so, how is that different from a Babylonian going "we're all worms in God's garden" exactly?

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 No.7920

>>7919

Meanwhile, in the real world, the simulator just marked you with the HELL tag to send to the eternal torture sim after you "die".

There's still time to repent.

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 No.7921

>>7920

but what if he wanted me to worship blaise pascal, or nobody?

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 No.7922

>>7921

Your chance of salvation is the number of correct Gods to believe in divided by all the false damning Gods you could believe in + atheism/agnostic variants.

So pretty much you are going to Hell. Pascal's wager is really Pascal's YOU'RE FUCKED.

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 No.7923

>>7922

That assumes all are equally likely, when the prior for a programmer in some other dimension being a scientist is probably not equal to the prior for him being a crazy person who wants to pretend to be the literal god of $HOLY_BOOK

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 No.13129

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18139759.

It's pretty funny when normalfags try to argue about the simulation hypothesis.

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File: 7cc6db01a3bce63⋯.jpg (111.21 KB,1024x1117,1024:1117,NurgleArt.jpg)

File: 0e55bd9b3de9d16⋯.jpg (202.23 KB,1024x1117,1024:1117,TzeentchArt.jpg)

 No.13017 [Open thread]

Which one of the 2 good Chaos Gods do you support?

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 No.13030

>>13018

1. He did ask "which of the good chaos gods".

2. What the fuck kind of Slaanesh doesn't have any genitals? This is sickening.

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 No.13117

File: c5a5ac9e190a79b⋯.png (982.62 KB,675x856,675:856,1422323051634.png)

File: fe023b57c719043⋯.jpg (143.65 KB,600x800,3:4,image.jpg)

File: d1285689734c971⋯.jpg (72.04 KB,497x547,497:547,Tzeench_political_poster.jpg)

File: 0c3387c3119b0db⋯.jpg (3.25 MB,2362x1476,1181:738,tzeentch.jpg)

>>13017

Hail the lord of Change.

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 No.13118

>not Chaos Undivided

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 No.13125

IFNI, Demon-Secretary-General of the Domain of Chaotic Meta-Excess

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 No.13128

How Nurgle is good?

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File: 22cdd1bc885fa9e⋯.jpg (862.69 KB,1500x982,750:491,1470437028069.jpg)

 No.6811 [Open thread]

Hello /ratonon/s I find people in the cyber/rational/etc community posting sequences of words like this on twitter:

AQ 141 = GENESIS = BRANDING = EUNOMIA

AQ 6 = 141 = 6 DEGREES = ACTS OF RESISTANCE = ALSO YE SHALL BE STRONG IN WAR = ANIME

P H Y R E S I S = AQ 191 = SYNECDOCHE = TALISMANIC = MILKY WAY = TREE OF LIFE

The words always seem to be related and mean something. I think it has something to do with a program and a word list or something, and that people are not just making it up.

What am I looking at here?

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 No.11038

http://xynchroni.city/gema

122

big yud =

= ALAMUT

= BRAZIL

= CHAOTIC

= DERRIDA

= FUCCBOI

= GHIAMAT

= HERMES

= INFIDEL

= KENDALL

= LIBERAL

= LUDICS

= MARDUK

= MARKET

= NAMIFY

= POWER

= SCOTCH

= STARS

= TAIWAN

= TROLL

= UNSAID

= URUZ

= VAYNO

= VOYNA

= WANING

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 No.11044

>>6823

I missed the months-old post times at first and I thought Nick Land had been through here recently :^(

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 No.11058

154=BASILISK

154=DEMIURGE

154=THE WARP

154=SACRIFICE

154=NRXNFAM

154=FOR YOU

367=EVERY DAY IS A GOOD DAY

367=MATHEMATIZED GENOCIDE

367=TECHONOMIC SEES YOU

367=THE COSMIC METAMACHINE

367=BLOOD AND ELECTRICITY

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 No.13126

BOWSETTE CONSUMES ALL = 414 = EVERYTHING WILL BE FIRE = GOVERNED BY CONTAGIONS = PROLIFERATION OF MEMES = THE WRITING ON THE WALL = MY NAME IS A KILLING WORD

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 No.13127

>>10398

>rationalism would actually give you superpowers

I dunno, being able to rationalise away being a cuckold ("polyamory") is pretty close to a superpower.

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File: 11d0172be9ce1eb⋯.jpg (49.79 KB,388x439,388:439,1534731022468.jpg)

 No.12725 [Open thread]

Can you guys loosen up your filters for posting a little bit? This board is mad slow.

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 No.13092

>>13091

If it wasn't, it would demonstrate a point, making it a good post. It can't logically not be a good post.

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 No.13095

>>13091

No.

>>13092

It demonstrates nothing except for the slippery slope fallacy.

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 No.13101

>>13095

More like the slippery turds fallacy! Boi!!

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 No.13109

File: b681ed5100e151b⋯.jpg (36.28 KB,400x333,400:333,xoxo.jpg)

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 No.13115

File: e7e19c7b768c4e2⋯.jpg (53.25 KB,443x525,443:525,qinqin baobao.jpg)

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File: 4df0003741b66c9⋯.png (539.67 KB,854x894,427:447,unknown.png)

 No.12784 [Open thread]

When do you think he's going to transition? I mean he already literally looks like an egg.

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 No.13083

File: 2250ea4fe25b50e⋯.jpg (50.2 KB,700x400,7:4,musk before after.jpg)

How did Elon Musk fix his hair?

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 No.13085

>>13083

I don't think he has commented on it publicly, but presumably hair transplant surgery?

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 No.13094

>>13083

It's all pussy hair.

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 No.13096

>>13083

A multi-stage very well done hair transplant, or a hair system.

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 No.13098

>>13083

Are we sure it's the same Elon?

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File: b7683a04187d711⋯.png (29.92 KB,774x481,774:481,spaceship_gf.png)

 No.10166 [Open thread]

glorious future

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 No.13056

>>13055

Thats bretty gud, but if he wrote anything like that in a new book I suspect the current #woke sf crew would unperson him sharpish

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 No.13057

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 No.13059

>>13057

You have to be pretty pwned to publish a civil rights allegory in 2010. I am really sick of those. Greg Egan should have move to Shanghai in the '90s.

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 No.13061

File: 719cb65450f4c40⋯.jpg (56.05 KB,690x442,345:221,egan is low energy sad!.JPG)

>>13053

do you even Jevons Paradox nigga?

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 No.13075

Is that Julia Galef?

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File: 03e199b4d7863eb⋯.png (2.58 KB,369x61,369:61,cfar-logo.png)

 No.10016 [Open thread]

What do we think of CFAR around these parts?

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 No.13029

>>13006

There's nothing wrong with Christianity, you profligate.

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 No.13031

>>13029

The whole thing is wrong

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 No.13038

CFAR is pure cancer that has the side effect of convincing autistic manchildren that Someone is taking 'rationality' seriously. The reality is that nobody seems to be and the entire LW memeplex is this fucked wasteland where nobody has ever heard of Google Scholar.

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 No.13041

>>13038

>nobody seems to be

At least AI risk is getting exposure and new powerful believers.

>where nobody has ever heard of Google Scholar

Why do you say that?

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 No.13043

>>13041

>powerful

Rats aren't even to shit-tier DEFCON attendee power.

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File: 2d35aede016bb1b⋯.jpg (148.27 KB,654x594,109:99,Dnstr3ZX4AAavvd.jpg)

 No.12964 [Open thread]

From a Rolf Degen tweet

"Machiavellists and psychopaths saw greater dangers in artificial intelligence, projecting their own malicious streaks onto the concept."

https://econtent.hogrefe.com/doi/abs/10.1024/1421-0185/a000214

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 No.12991

>>12979

I do hate that trend, but I don't really see it here.

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 No.12993

>>12991

Framing the issue of AI safety as "of course the machiavellian STEM autists would project their own failings onto AI" frees critics from the burden of having to think about Omohundro drives and instead plays to their strengths of armchair psychologizing and sneering at bad greys.

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 No.13023

>>12979

Greed, for the lack of a better word, is good.

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 No.13024

>>13023

No, it isn't. It's amoral.

Not everything needs to be fundamentally evil or virtuous. Greed can lead to excellent outcomes and it can lead to disastrous outcomes.

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 No.13028

>>12964

That's a lot of words to say "most people are dumbass normies who anthropomorphise AI".

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File: 3565082b6b85e67⋯.jpg (79.47 KB,1001x496,1001:496,minentropy[1].jpg)

 No.13025 [Open thread]

>Our job is to make sure the chain of leaps does not end with Earth. Our job is to advance the march of intelligence no matter what it takes, no matter how many sad stories we have to hear about the poor lost phytoplankton we burnt along the way to the next nearest Earth-like planet. On the escape pod, there is no room for any but the highest.

.You know where I'm going with this: celestial bodies are whorls within whorls, as are water-bearing planets, as is life itself, as are you. If you are reading this, you inhabit a flesh capsule whose existence is entirely due to the fact that an incomprehensibly massive meat-grinder has funneled solar energy FROM the sun THROUGH a torturous series of interlinked dynamos TO your nervous system, and your energy stores, although limited, can sustain the computronium in your skull for at least as long as it takes you to scan and interpret this sentence. All your life has led to this moment.

http://xynchroni.city/posts/22

Ignore the bullshit mysticism and faux-jittery-adderall-fueled style, that's just part of the aesthetic. Buried beneath those tribal signifiers are some interesting insights, or at least some interesting reformulations of existing insights. I like Akira, I bet he's cute and skinny and stammers IRL.

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 No.13026

I bet he reads /r9k

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 No.13027

It's pretty nice writing, but it's amusing that this grand cosmic vision filters down into… a condemnation of people posting on Instagram. (And, I guess, refreshing 8chan?)

The Scott Alexander vision of the universe leading up to Niceness, Community, and Civilization (rather than this version, where the far future has Only War) is a bit more self-consistent; if what you ultimately want is human surplus and a Disneyland with the Children Still There, then you can also justify indulging in cuddle-piles and tumblr. If what you want is unrelenting survival of the fittest, then the you probably should feel bad about sitting in your basement writing blog posts instead of actually accomplishing things.

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 No.13004 [Open thread]

They said it was an accident. A joke. To think that the end of the world was caused by a joke. Pathetic huh? But that's what happened. The stage 5 nerds felt so clever and full of themselves, but they didn't realize what they'd made, what they'd unleashed. They had set out to create a memetic superweapon, and they'd succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. The trouble was, they didn't realize the full power of what they had created. They were just as susceptible as everyone else.

It spread rapidly, terraforming society in its wake. It annihilated religions and gender roles. It erased cultures and communities. It paved over cities and towns. In its wake, there were still people–if you could honestly call the things that it left in its wake people–but the civilization was left effectively dead on its feet.

They were pathetic, useless, hopeless husks, addicted to a number of drugs and carrying out dronelike impersonations of their old lives as they calmly and happily let their world crumble and catch fire around them. It was as if their humanity had been stripped away and left behind carnal disgusting filthy animals.

Order collapsed rapidly, with the police and militaries becoming just another roaming gang, and the world balkanized at the level of neighborhoods and households at best. Internecine violence was rampant, and the whole situation made your Mad Max movies look calm and tranquil in comparison.

By the time I was sent back, the situation had grown incredibly grave. The population of the earth had fallen to only several thousand humans, all sterile, all but a small number afflicted.

Long story short: Don't give the memetic warfare people a blank check, it won't end well

-EQ

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 No.13005

Your writing is all right, but you should lurk before posting. Don't be that newfag.

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