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File: 2fa3841d9416d29⋯.png (103.01 KB,1920x1080,16:9,MyersBriggsTypes.png)

 No.7090

What's your Myers-Briggs personality type, /ratanon/? I'm an INTP.

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 No.7091

lmno / slytherin secondary

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 No.7092

>>7090

Are you going to ask my sign next?

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 No.7093

File: fa5e94c4011dbc3⋯.jpg (12.49 KB,736x252,184:63,b3a41682f960ea7e3d54b6fc0f.jpg)

>>7092

this is vvery stupid but that said im an aquarius

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 No.7094

INTP Libra Ravenclaw

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 No.7095

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 No.7096

>>7092

you can accurately predict what someone's mbti type will be other than asking them. not true for birthdays

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 No.7097

>>7090

I would say I'm a solid 6 out of 10.

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 No.7098

Myer-Briggs is rational but not trying to paint or use a realistic map.

Astrology is not rational. Although the core idea, that the state of the universe at time of conception/birth etc has patterned (On accout of the universe itself having patterned cycles) effects on personality, does make intuitive sense.

Who knows… Before the anthropocene cellphones satellites artificial climate and all that, perhaps being born in one of the springs that happened every n years or whatever had a noticeable effect?

Season of birth probably has some effects even in the modern world, separating 4 in 12 is obviously possible in theory.

I bet a superintelligence could ask me birthdate and produce a decent overview of myself after doing some research.

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 No.7099

>>7090

INTP

about like >80% of rationalists are INTx

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 No.7100

> senpai defended myers-briggs you plebs

Senpai is a faggot. MBTI isn't stable. I've had 5 different MBT's as an adult. I think each of the 4 switches has flipped at one point or another. This isn't uncommon.

Big 5 is fairly stable. This is why it's a personality test, as opposed to some bullshit. MBTI may have been designed to do something different, but the problem was that it was designed by morons.

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 No.7101

>>7100

> I've had 5 different MBT's as an adult.

gotta catch'em all

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 No.7102

I'm the kind who sneers at the unscientificness of MBTI, aka INTJ

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 No.7103

>>7100

I don't think MBTI is quite carving reality at the joints but the disproportionate prevalence of NT types in the rationalsphere suggests that some part of it means *something*

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 No.7104

>choosing Introversion instead of Extroversion

No wonder you idiots don't get hired when you can't even get a good result on this test. Study harder plebs.

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 No.7105

>>7090

INTP

I'm also in the PLT/cat theory sphere, which seem to be dominated by INTx as well.

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 No.7106

FTDS

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 No.7107

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 No.7108

File: 6e5548dbb054c73⋯.jpg (47.17 KB,325x488,325:488,the-x-files-i-want-to-beli.jpg)

INTP but I'm constantly questioning it

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 No.7109

infp more like infinite pee lol

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 No.7110

ENFJ

I don't know what the fuck I'm doing in lesswrong, or why the hell I got that F.

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 No.7111

>>7101

5 different main battle tanks

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 No.7112

>>7110

ENFP

Should we form a sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-group and find some enemy tribes?

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 No.7113

>>7112

Thing is, the F in the MBTI is there when you take into account other people's feelings for taking a decision. That's just having a different utility function, you can be perfectly rational with that.

F is as rational as T!

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 No.7114

File: 9028cf2e3af3937⋯.png (97.72 KB,242x255,242:255,ClipboardImage.png)

Myers-Briggs is fucking pseudoscientific garbage. Use OCEAN/five factor.

Yes it's true some of the MB categories correlate with the five factors and so it's not *totally useless*. But five factor gives way more information and is actually scientifically designed.

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 No.7115

>>7114

Agreed, Myer-Briggs is non-empirical. However, even coming from empirical results, the five factor model has its problems.

Andy Gelman posted about the Big 5 in '10 stating that the personality psychologist Walter Mischel (aka the marshmallow experiment guy) pointed out some problems in Big 5 tests decades ago.

Mischel argued that personality tests did not account for the situations the people were in. A person who had a stressful day at work might respond differently on a personality test compared to a day when they felt relaxed and comfy. Mischel suggested that personality tests say less about personality and more about situations. It's hard to control for situational factors.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits#Hiatus_in_research if what I said in the above paragraph was nonsensical.

Some helpful comments from Andy's post:

> Walter Mischel's famous critique predated the Big Five. His critique was of the concept of a personality trait more broadly. If you ask around at Mischel's home department they'll probably tell you that Mischel won the argument, but that's not the mainstream view among personality psychologists elsewhere. In fact, I don't think there's a single mainstream view on traits or the Big Five, but I'd guess that many personality psychologists would endorse, at a minimum, "useful enough until a better model comes along." Some might go a lot farther.

> A quick comment about the Big-5. A couple of years ago, I did some consulting with a psychologist who was developing new personality measures. The standard practice for validating the new measure was to give it as part of a battery to a sample of the target population, along with the Big 5, and other known measure that were similar to the target. I got the impression that it wasn't that the Big 5 were thought of as the answer to everything, but that it was a starting point that most people in the field understood. The burden of proof was to show that your proposed measures was something other than a composite of the 5 factors in the Big 5.

Some people just want a substitute for horoscopes without losing face with the 'science' tribe.

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 No.7116

going to guess that like every single Myers-Briggs thread in the history of the internet, 90% of people here are INTx

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 No.7117

>>7099

The NT cluster is literally called "The rationalists" in MBTI IIRC, and the I part goes without saying

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 No.7118

ENTJ master race here. Same brains as the INTJs and on top of it we're not fucking autists.

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 No.7119

>>7118

This is the correct result for this test. I don't understand why anyone would answer anything else.

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 No.7120

>>7118

INFP is the real master race. INTJs are glorified calculators, ENTJs are the same + annoying.

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 No.7121

>>7120

>F

what are you even doing here

the other three letters are correct tho

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 No.7122

>>7121

T = Crypto-F

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 No.13477

Reminder that Nick Land is INTJ and proud.

http://www.xenosystems.net/intj/

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 No.13484

ENFJ

I'm the creator of this board.

(Though some other thoughtful person now takes care of it because I wasn't and 8ch was hacked)

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 No.13486

>>7116

That's such an NT thing to say.

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 No.13503

pathologically INTP but with budding aspirations to INTJhood

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