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 No.13509 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Why do people dislike Disney’s canon?

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 No.14644

>>14621

Square was never that good at telling stories honestly. Its no surprise that their first FF movie bombed.

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 No.16188

>>13534

>muh star wars is bad because it has to be muh good and evil

This is the fucking neo-marx rhetoric Disney is pushing though, they WANT it to be solidly black and solidly white. We can't have people rooting for the evil nazi Empire!!! No sir. We need strong African queen wymyn on the heroic noble feminist Resistance side. There can be no nuance!

The PROBLEM of Nu Wars is that it's aiming for a white-black moral narrative. That's a bad thing.

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 No.16442

>>16188

While I agree that yes, the Empire is styled up to ebil white nationalists. But I think that the character assassination of Luke, and trying to make Kylo Ren sympathetic, while promoting the "light side/dark side dont mean anything" meme in Rebels and other media is trying to remove Lucas's intent. And you can make Good/Evil narratives compelling without making it infantile like Disney does. Darth Plagueis, Darth Bane, and Tarkin for example are complex and layered characters but they are still evil. Likewise, Kyle Katarn, Luke Skywalker, and Han Solo are also similar but good.

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 No.16470

>>16188

The neo-marxists hate "black and white" narratives though. A marxist would claim that the Empire was not all that bad and would argue against classifying them as "evil". Stop with the post-modernism.

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 No.16819

figured this might be the best place to post this

>be on discord server

>sw gets brought up because someone disliked TLJ

>other anon fires back with liking the movie

>i chime in with just saying it's a bad sw movie

>anon gets triggered by the phrase "bad sw movie" apparently and asks that i define what entails a sw movie

>do exactly that, throw in my .02 that TFA and TLJ are poor sw movies because of the way they meet the sw movie standard, i didn't even get to go in-depth

>get told to stop because "my explanation was dumb"

>tell anon to fuck off

>anon asks to drop it

why is it that anytime i try to debate someone on why the disney movies are good/bad, they can never properly debate and instead try to call it quits while they're ahead? like holy shit, they open up this can of worms themselves and then can't handle the pressure of being told a different opinion.

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 No.14571 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

So, I've noticed that the overall reception of RLM and their take on Star Wars is pretty negative on that board. While I think this is perfectly understandable, and they're certainly not above criticism, I think they're treated a bit unfairly. Let me explain:

>inb4 shill thread

To get a few things out of the way first:

1) I do think that most of the criticism they leveled at the prequels are valid, they really blew it out of proportion. I also think that at least some of it can be attributed to comedic effect.

2) I'm certain that they played a major part in turning a large part of the fanbase against George Lucas. It was probably not their intention, though.

3) While I found their verdict on TFA (as well as the Plinkett Review) a bit baffling, I think some of it can be explained without bringing Disney money into it.

4) I'm not going to discuss the Plinkett reviews in detail in this post, but feel to do so.

5) The reviews are overpraised.

6) This thread isn't about trying to make you like them.

I think the consensus is that the prequels, while flawed, are not bad movies per se and are a great addition to the Star Wars mythos. So, why do I think Stoklasa was so harsh on them? It's simple, really. Stoklasa is not really a Star Wars fan. That's evident from the reviews, where he mentions that he has no interest in the EU material, he directly states that he doesn't read any of the novels and doesn't play any of the video games. He just likes the movies as a trilogy of competently made, greatly written and well-produced, overall fantastic Science Fantasy movies, while fans like us appreciate the mythos and the universe, to which the prequels were an overall great addition, as I've said. As movies themselves, however, they were flawed in many terms, which is what I think is the reason for his dislike.

So, why the positive reception to TFA? I think that's also simple. While I personally hated the movie, I do have to concede that it's for the most part competently made and, with some excePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.16754

I'm just gonna go ahead and say it: RLM was never good, and E;R is one trick weeb, who's only good 'review' was GET;OUT - now they are all sucking Disney cock. Fuck 'em.

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 No.16755

>>16754

E;R sucked Disney cock?

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 No.16758

>>16754

>talking shit on E;R

Get out of here, Doug.

>>16755

>they

I think he means RLM.

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 No.16767

>>16753

Hadn't heard of him. I will give him a watch.

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 No.16768

>>16754

>e;r sucks disney cock

this is just wrong on all platforms

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 No.16361 [Open thread]

So its just as I suspected. Vocal minorities are trying to blame Solo's failure on not being diverse enough and having a cishet white male lead rather than acknowledging that its just plain bad. Humorously enough, they're cannibalizing their ally Kennedy for not being even more inclusive and making PoexFinn canon. How long until Kennedy herself agrees and publicly blames Solo's failure on the fact that it had a male lead, and SW shouldn't focus on men, period?

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 No.16392

>THE REASON SOLO FAILED WAS BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH FORCED DIVERSITY AND BECAUSE A MOVIE ABOUT HAN SOLO'S MAIN CHARACTER IS HAN SOLO

>NOT BECAUSE OF THE SHITTY WRITING

>NOT BECAUSE OF THE SHITTY ACTING

>NOT BECAUSE OF THE ANNOYING CHARACTERS

>NOT BECAUSE OF THE CHARACTER ASSASSINATION OF HAN

>NOPE IT WAS BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH BLACK TRANS WYMIN IN IT

These people are fucking insane. And no I don't mean that in a 'these people are weird' sort of way. I mean they act like they have a severe mental illness.

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 No.16394

>>16361

>How long until Kennedy herself agrees and publicly blames Solo's failure on the fact that it had a male lead, and SW shouldn't focus on men, period?

If I had to guess, sometime within the next 2 weeks. Assuming of course she hasn't already said that and I missed it.

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 No.16399

>>16392

Wow you sound like a real bigot! :^/

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 No.16414

what's ironic is that polysoy wrote an article about why solo failed, and it had nothing to do with sexism, it was all about how the movie was predictable shit that gave us nothing new.

fucking polygon has more sense than these niggers.

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 No.16416

>>16414

Even Salon managed to do the same. What a shock.

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 No.15975 [Open thread]

Anti-disney, pro-disney? pro-eu, anti-eu? pro-prequel, anti-prequel? pro-lucas, anti-lucas? pro-filoni, anti-filoni?

t: anti-disney, pro-eu, pro-prequel, pro-lucas. Filoni is ok but overrated.

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 No.16293

1. Meh-Disney, though in consistent decline since around the time of The Last Jedi. I liked some of the comics and novels that came out in the early days before and around The Farce Awakens' debut, but it's been rolling downhill faster and faster ever since "Thrawn" came out. I'm still looking forward to "Alliances," however.

2. Pro-EU overall. I vastly prefer the pre-film EU to the post-film EU, though, and tended to ignore it. Old Republic eras were always my favorite.

3. Pro-prequel. I've always resented the artificially inflated and insincere mandatory nerd cred hate they got. I feel like they've aged better.

4. Pro-Lucas on the whole. Dude's an autistic savant, but he isn't the accidental billionaire manchild retard that his haters portray him to be either.

5. I was pro-Filoni before Disney. He's has started to disappoint me more and more lately with what he did and did not do in Rebels. I am not looking forward to his new cartoon set in the time between episodes VI and VII.

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 No.16321

>>16293

Old republic era stories were always the most popular, with most anti-prequel fags always saying they hated the films but loved the comics and media that spun off it.

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 No.16322

>>16293

>>16293

>5. I was pro-Filoni before Disney. He's has started to disappoint me more and more lately with what he did and did not do in Rebels. I am not looking forward to his new cartoon set in the time between episodes VI and VII.

Speaking of, did Filoni have some kind of wolf fetish? Is he a fucking wolfaboo now? Only sign of it to ever show up was with Wolfpack Squad in CWA, but Rebels really went all out with the wolf faggotry and imagery to the point where they're not the most important creatures in the universe and the guardians of time and space, and Kyle Kanen is now a fucking wolf.

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 No.16332

>>16322

>did Filoni have some kind of wolf fetish?

Glad you brought that up. I'm actually a massive clonetrooper fag, but if there's something I hate then it's Plo koons retarded wolf batallion. I don't even hate TCW that much, but bradley dee baker and all the new clone designs created for that show were awful.

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 No.16381

>>16322

>did Filoni have some kind of wolf fetish?

I think that was pretty obvious when he made the center of the universe be filled with wolf imagery and how much focus he put on Loth wolves.

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 No.8539 [Open thread]

BROTHERS ALL

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 No.16026

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>>16019

>>16022

I've never read in any particular order. I only started reading SW books a couple of months ago after some anons here introduced me to some Dooku comics and Labyrinth of Evil since I mostly just wanted to read stuff on Dooku. Since then I read Heir to the Empire and Yoda: Dark Rendezvous. I've been thinking of starting from the bottom up with Splinter of the Mind's Eye. Any thoughts?

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 No.16130

>>16026

What I like to do is read in eras or chunks and have a somewhat systematic approach to it. So for example if I wanted to get into /Bane/, I'd probably want to have the full history of the sith era behind me (tales of the jedi comics, kotor etc) for max vibes. This way I also have a clear idea of where I'm going so I don't get bored or lost. I typically pirate the ebooks, put them on a tablet and make a logical reading list for myself. http://www.starwarstimeline.net/ has been pretty useful for this sort of thing. I kind of use it as reference, I don't take it literally (like splitting book into chapers) but it is useful to see if you may have missed something. (Like an obscure short story etc). One thing I have also noticed, is that generally speaking, the books might reference the comics, but not the otherway around. I'm not sure if this is a prequel-era thing or what.

Splinter of the Mind's Eye is fairly standalone I think? Not sure. I have to read it too at somepoint (only got interested in EU stuff late 2016). I heard the Brian Daley Han Solo novels from that time period feel a lot more modern.

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 No.16134

>>16130

I think Splinter of the mind's I had like two sequels didn't it? Or at least two other novels that tied into it a bit

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 No.16135

>>16134

>minds I

Last time I use the damn phone

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 No.16324

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>>16135

>posting from your phone

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