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File: e82bfc6b6414a48⋯.jpg (320.22 KB,1043x1027,1043:1027,biz2015.JPG)

e9eacf No.1659 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Board complaints, suggestions, contacting moderation.

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Is our board owner still active?

Currently the rules are lax, but I want to bring up the discussion of additional ones.

In one image is 4chan's /biz/ board in 2015, which is far different from current /biz/.

https://archive.fo/vtaiO

https://archive.fo/wURff

Here you can see a different topics related to business and finances being discussed. Some anons wanting discussion on job searching, investments, or starting a business. While we all have different opinions on how to make money, we can at least see some coherent topics.

4chan's /biz/ in its current state, is flooded with shills trying to influence buying and selling behaviors. Allegedly Indian pump and dump groups, and some discord/telegram group advertisements looking to recruit anons into market manipulation teams (exchange pump & dump, or FUD/hype). If it isn't what's previously mentioned, it's simply the image of a cryptocurrency and a one liner OP regarding speculation, or a meme and some day trader panic.

I'd like to gauge some opinions from this- to have the rules expanded to prevent 8chan /biz/ from becoming 4chan /biz/. For example, disallow begging threads and advertising.

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efd64e No.4337

There's decent discussion in this thread >>3179

but the bait format of the OP is a bit annoying.

If anyone wants it to be edited e.g to add a thread title, or add to OP text, just ask for a mod edit.

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efd64e No.4352

Received ban appeal and lifted ban.

https://8ch.net/log.php?board=biz

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efd64e No.4387

Cleaned two threads from the catalog. http://archive.is/8nEka

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efd64e No.4399

>>>/b2/631341

>>>/v/16759972

>>>/tech/1083591

>>>/leftypol/2961400

>>>/pol/13574096

https://archive.fo/2mPin

https://blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/

http://archive.today/2019.08.05-014817/https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1158188641946165248

https://web.archive.org/web/20190805020908/https://new.blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/

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b34b87 No.4402

did not expect to see this board alive again.

is the same BO running the place?

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886ac1 No.3853 [Open thread]

Questions that don't deserve their own thread.

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387dd9 No.4362

>>4360

seriously read that book. I want a report written on it posted here by next week. joking [spoiler]not really[/spoiler]

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bc2040 No.4364

>>4362

i have listened to the audiobook up until the MVP (minimum viable product) part.. but what if I am copying other business? do I still need to do a MVP? cause the business I want to copy is already in the market, it is just that it is only popular at America.. which is 4chan

>written report

eehhh not like this (0v0 ) hehe

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6fe248 No.4365

>>4364

i mean, almost like old Yikyak (before they crashed and burned after the new update), I mean their initial success prove that they did something right in the market..

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64959b No.4366

File: 2f7ee8180605446⋯.png (34.62 KB,474x340,237:170,8f46b00862c4a60c17c78271b4….png)

>>4364

>i have listened to the audiobook up until the MVP (minimum viable product) part..

how far into the book are we talking here? MVPs are brought up early and are explained pretty thoroughly. but it has been a long time since I read it myself and other people have added a lot to the core ideas.

>but what if I am copying other business? do I still need to do a MVP?

absolutely, any idea you come up with will always *feel* like it makes perfect sense, but only because your the one that came up with it. it's a common cognitive bias to over value things close to your ego. you have to test your ideas so you can separate your feelings from reality. you want to avoid the situation where you're working months on something people were never interested in.

besides, you should be able to put together and test an MVP in literally hours. why avoid a relatively small about of time to ensure your success?

>eehhh not like this (0v0 ) hehe

just write it like you explaining the ideas to your friends. though they should just read it for themselves.

>almost like old Yikyak (before they crashed and burned after the new update)

Yik Yak was burning way before that last update, they only made those changes as a desperate attempt to save a sinking ship. they are a good case study you should research, along with the dozens of other failed social media platforms. I'd be interested if you actually have a novel solution to the myriad of problems they faced.

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cce7eb No.4367

>>4353

>>4354

>entering the highschool they want, university they want, what (not how) to dress, what (not how) to speak, what (not how) to think, always apologize to them

Move away from your parents.

>told me to gain experience working at any job

They're right on that. I'm speaking from personal experience; I was in a similar position.

>managerial dept. are shit at any place

You cannot possibly know that.

>any experiences that I will gain are useless

Not true.

>cause need to learn office politics bullshits and all that

I don't get that but ok, however you sure as hell are not going to learn anything about office politics from a book or something, only by working in one.

>>4357

>independence isn't doing the opposite of what your parents want, it's making decisions independent of them, even if that means coming to the same conclusion.

this.

>>4361

>nothing you've said so far has made me think you're parents are bad people

I disagree.

>>4358

>They do not even let me rent a room.

Do it anyway, you're 23 and not their prisoner. They don't have control over your bank account etc., do they?

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580f09 No.2157 [Open thread]

4chan /biz/ is fucking ridiculous. I was hoping finding a good board here but it looks dead af.

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85b1fe No.3731

>>2871

Ive come from 4chan, far too shilly over there now, very little good convo.

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ef78c7 No.4228

>>2269

it's just pictures of brappers and LINK/sergey

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ef78c7 No.4230

>>2157

i keep getting banned from 4chan because kike jannies. so i come here but theres only one post every 2 hours. fucking lame

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8cc3f2 No.4234

Halfchan's /biz/ has great stock market threads. Wish there were more stock traders here.

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ba0e7f No.4236

File: 84202bfb9aaba7c⋯.jpg (53.72 KB,500x536,125:134,.jpg)

>>4234

>pic related

4/biz/ has a lively stock thread, but I wouldn't call it great by any measure. 95% of it is just people day trading stocks like they're trading crypto and the rest is mostly people giving misguided and possibly harmful financial advice .

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6cf9b4 No.2836 [Open thread]

baby boomers are retiring, they invested a lot of money in healthcare and longevity.

I'm a nursing dialysis in New jersey, 42/hr

tell me why you dont want to practice medicine.

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07d48d No.3895

>>3894

>Doing so would raise wages across the board, lower the cost of housing, and lower worker compliance since the labor market would be shifted heavily in the favor of workers. Employers would be forced to train their workers themselves again.

this is all shit that happens *because* there's a labor shortage.

>There is no labor shortage or skills gap, it is all corporate propaganda to keep the visa workers and immigration flood gates open.

so you're saying that the labor shortage is a lie, but we should make it real?

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32490e No.3896

>>3895

>so you're saying that the labor shortage is a lie, but we should make it real?

Yes, so wages can have some real growth, housing can go down, to encourage companies to start training again, and so workers don't have to be so compliant. I do not care about companies having maximum profit.

Landscaping might have some problems without visa workers, but the only people that benefit from landscaping businesses are the owners themselves, visa workers subsidize them. There are plenty of goods and services that are not made anymore because it is not economically viable, should all of those be subsidized too? Door to door milk delivery in glass probably isn't profitable anymore even if the employees were all paid minimum wage. Some company, I can't remember which exactly, stopped producing high end Blu-ray players, should whatever country that company is in subsidize them so they can keep making them? The only reason landscaping might be a problem is because in the US you can be fined for not mowing your lawn which can be easily fixed by making it so you can't be fined for not having your lawn mowed.

Automation is supposed to remove tens of millions of jobs from market in a few years, self driving cars alone are supposed to remove millions. Whatever jobs are left will pay less, even programmers and engineers. Every extra person you take in now is going to make the damage done that much worse.

Higher wages would probably make automation happen faster, but it is going to happen anyway. Fast food jobs where I live pay a dollar or so above the state minimum wage, but after the 2008 crash when they were only minimum wage, self serving kiosks were being made anyways. Minimum wage could be half of what it is now and they would still automate as much as possible. Some study in the UK found officie workers were only productive 2 something hours out of their 8 hour shift. Many manufacturing positions can already be eliminated right now through improving the process, using different materials, or with automation.

As someone who cares about workers having as high of a standard of living as possible, I do not want all positions to be filled, in fact I want even more positions to bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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07d48d No.3897

>>3896

for someone who believes that automation will destroy jobs, you've come to a very strange conclusion. you're talking like jobs are the only relevant resource and people need to be reduced to match the supply.

the debate around how automation will affect the job market has mostly been either "new jobs will be created like with the industrial revolution, business as usual" or "everything will be so cheap that society will change it's relationship with work and push UBI or some other scheme". I haven't heard much of this worst of both worlds where everything is done by robots so we have to hunker down and ration out our limited respectable places in society.

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9579ab No.4199

>>3238

>>2836

tell me why you dont want to practice medicine.

>Every single time I go to my yearly checkup at my heart doctor the lobby is filled with a bunch of fat people and older people that obviously don't take care of themselves.

DING DING DING

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e1b8d5 No.4227

>>2836

fake news. wages are still dog shit

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becdd4 No.1602 [Open thread]

What exchange sites does /biz/ use?

>Minimum personal information required for trading.

>Withdraw limits.

>Trade fees.

>Markets

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e53a8a No.2289

I use Anycoin. Easy as fuck, no hassle with some "webcam ID confirmation" or anything like that (at least not until higher levels). Goes in and out real fast and smooth.

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272d1b No.2300

>>2099

They want ID if you try to withdraw fiat via something other than their own vouchers. Coin withdrawals and fiat vouchers don't need ID, so you can withdraw USD as a wexcode and then sell it elsewhere.

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6fdab1 No.3694

Any new suggestions for non-KYC exchanges/markets? Doesn't have to include fiat.

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295262 No.3750

>>3694

check localbitcoins and your local bitcoin atm's

in my experience all the traders who only do cash on LBC are either homosexuals or scammers. They want to buy but then they don't and then also want again and then also don't. Pure faggotry.

Bitcoin atms are nice but slow. check if your local ones transact without id faggotry

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68a197 No.3898

Only 2 you need (both are fantastic):

Bitstamp for fiat, then transfer to binance for alts. IDEX for lowcap shitcoins/moonshots that are not on binance yet.

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6e4704 No.3243 [Open thread]

Be honest with yourself. What do you think is wrong, is missing or do you need to do?

How do you think you'll get there? Is it realistic?

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31d7d5 No.3404

need more link

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0473b3 No.3483

>>3245

At what age did you start and with what? In what field did you make most of your money? Just stocks?

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b7a01c No.3491

Time.

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b46de6 No.3499

Im not very smart at business stuff and I am too honest. I feel like every successful peron I have met is a scheister.

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d83b29 No.3619

Because I don't know how to solve a millions people's problems.

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9fa83b No.3558 [Open thread]

Anybody banned else from 4channel /biz for shitting on Hiro? Are we migrating here?

Also,

ahem…AHEM

FUCK NIGGERS

FUCK KIKES

FUCK GOOKS

FUCK HIRO

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2ae8fb No.3601

>>3600

Unplug your modem overnight and go back to 4chan.

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b87206 No.3603

>>3564

> that fag who ran out of gas with an AK in his car

I need to see this.

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283a67 No.4621

>>3558

Isn't getting banned from various 4chan boards almost a sport by now?

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e5e63e No.5481

>>3558

I just got banned for a month because I shat up too many spam threads made by telegram PnD groups. Was getting 3 day bans here and there for a few months, but I guess I must have fucked with a shit token that a mod was in on, and boom. Month-long ban. That place needs a serious cleansing.

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1beda0 No.5731

I got banned from /co/ for stating that bridges made by women and browns are prone to more structural integrity issues than those made by whites, it was relevant to the thread too

Jannies there suck cock for free

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5ebe8e No.3506 [Open thread]

Can we preemptively ban the pajeet shills who will inevitably flood in from 4dead? (LINK, Holochain, 0xBTC, NKN, etc. make up over 90% of threads on 4dead)

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5ccadb No.3539

>>3538

ohh hide country is there too..

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eb663c No.3540

>>3506

How shit do you think Holochain is? Always liked low sat coins since I've had decent luck with them blowing up in pump and dumps over the years, but do you really think HOT's distributed hosting system is trash? I've only got a few sats left before my stop lose is pushed anyway but I'd appreciate your input on why you think it's a scamcoin.

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3f687d No.3636

>>3512

>>3514

Everyone hiding their flag is a pajeet

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17f025 No.3685

>>3539

Prepare to be ignored if you hide country. Flags are on for a reason.

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efe07f No.3696

the chain link project is pretty gucci

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8ad2c6 No.2671 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

welp 4chan shit the bed today. who is here?

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415e61 No.3375

>>2672

Finally we will finally see how many pajeets shill their shitcoins.

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b6c6f1 No.3376

>>3374

a year ago we did not need resurrection as bad as we need it today.

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c7e3b5 No.3377

>>2696

I'm trading 3 months on demo account and making profits

Teach me your ways Anon kek

I've had trading phase around 2010 , traded 6 months 24/5 and made nice profits in the silver bullrun.

Portfolio overall + 40% / 6months

Forex is BS, 90% of faggots lose , and much more life-draining than crypto.

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680a4f No.3634

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>>2671

Glad to know there aren't any pajeets on 4chan biz

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a3e2da No.3670

>>2671

here we are mah dude. Curious about the bullrun and 4ch going down

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b6fc01 No.3286 [Open thread]

When the next global crisis will hit? I want to be ready to invest in markets and stuff

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3cc377 No.3331

File: acae8dc5c55e09b⋯.jpg (118.99 KB,334x444,167:222,hro55.jpg)

>>3287

please

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3cc377 No.3332

File: 8b25163cb34849c⋯.gif (997.48 KB,500x332,125:83,51c1810e23ebc02e083b04b637….gif)

>>3316

>financial advice

<from broke ass, unemployed communists

my sides

probably right tho

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3cc377 No.3333

File: 2bda2fdf41d225d⋯.jpg (108.03 KB,500x395,100:79,hrossed.jpg)

getty spaghetti

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527b39 No.3334

File: 50920b39a6eba79⋯.png (179.6 KB,540x491,540:491,1496970293751.png)

>>3333

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3cc377 No.3336

File: 3c1c6d632a6072a⋯.jpg (68.7 KB,426x640,213:320,2590669344_cf3f6d93ff_z.jpg)

>>3334

thx fren

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File: 0dcb799f30420b8⋯.png (46.81 KB,2657x660,2657:660,iota.png)

d8a32a No.1628 [Open thread]

New cryptocurrency that appeared on public exchange 1 week ago.

Very shortly it approached 8th in market cap. As a recent coin, it should also be investigated, more so than not.

Features

>No transaction fees

This means the atomic unit of IOTA is transferable. Contrasts with the feasibility of transferring one satoshi.

>No mining

There is no userbase divide between miner and layman. Instead, for a transaction to confirm, it must confirm two other transactions (thus the proof of work is done on the issuer's computer). Additionally, with this scheme, a usual network spam attempt instead confirms more transactions.

>Fixed supply

2.7 * 10^15 atomic units (where as Bitcoin has 2.1 * 10^15 satoshi).

An atomic unit is 1 iota, an integer value as opposed to a decimal, and a trading unit is Miota (10^6), hence some confusion regarding supply and price.

>Quantum resistant cryptography

Causes for Concern

>Distribution

All IOTA in circulation were created in a genesis transaction by the developers and distributed through an ICO in November to December 2015. This means potentially there are large holders that can control the market.

>Targeting IoT

Internet of Things, being internet integration with mundane appliances such as toasters, microwaves and cars, has been criticized as extending surveillance. The developers seek in some way to cater to that sector.

>Beta/undeveloped

First, I think the developer's claim should be verified. If there was a genesis transaction in the very beginning that minted all current iota in supply- it should be confirmed whether or not the developers or any entity would have the capability to mint new iota after. From then on, Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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e0fc15 No.2332

File: af2cf900e63862d⋯.png (63.46 KB,2457x305,2457:305,iotabigplayers.PNG)

>>2261

This Winston guy definitely works at Iota despite denying partway through. And apparently they don't actually have an actual partnership with Microsoft. I think a scam is coming to light.

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e0fc15 No.2429

I've had the thought.

So if a lot of the early buyers do get their funds back, can we expect them to dump the price down? They, or at least a lot of them (~10% of supply), essentially have been prevented from selling during the bull run to $5 (don't remember the sat price, but they would've profited there as well).

I can expect many are not happy with the situation and IOTA Foundation.

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5e2987 No.2527

>>2295

As an update to this, I actually got my funds back. This whole issue still shouldn't have happened to begin with.

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fc3036 No.3324

File: 6d966204267c971⋯.jpg (55.8 KB,568x960,71:120,1516264238160.jpg)

>>1670

Multiple high volume transactions across a bunch of different exchanges all for XRP that shot its cap past ETH for a minute definitely doesn't look suspicious or like manipulation at all

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72d162 No.3329

File: 6af6d6e66beded8⋯.png (109.12 KB,1116x956,279:239,hgfd.png)

>>3324

If you were smart you would put your money into it.

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9cbf85 No.2678 [Open thread]

I’ve spent way too much time writing code to give this trading bot away for free. You will make minimum 10% daily for one month, or your money back. Only 10 downloads available on here before my website goes live next week and prices increase 10x

www.satoshibox.com/8c26m4x4vhfxaiwmv2cwxefa

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c124a2 No.2713

The poker player?

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578127 No.2804

Assuming the bot actually works as intended, why would you sell something that gets you about 5000x gains in 3 months?

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1ecd49 No.2813

>>2678

>>>/bog/

Fuck off.

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524b71 No.2852

Hmmm ill bite. Ill set it up on a exchange i dont use with virtual machine and report back. Even if it works this things isnt going anywhere near my main accounts or os.

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ce197b No.3167

I make 100% a day on my bot.

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f25472 No.2966 [Open thread]

TRUE /BIZ/ IS DOWN

NOW IM STUCK IN THIS SHITHOLE

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4d5b9d No.3105

I keep getting banned from 4chan /biz/, or 4chan in general.

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f2edaa No.3544

Gay frog posters have to go back

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fb0dd9 No.4655

File: c08657d135332f6⋯.gif (13.98 KB,416x416,1:1,1585614155169.gif)

>>2966

I think I'll like it here, do people post shitcoins here? i only want to discuss real projects with finished products and all

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babd38 No.5482

>>4655

based

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6503aa No.5869

File: ec303bfbae7c365⋯.png (349.98 KB,1063x683,1063:683,6e20fc77d57153d37259436b20….png)

>wake up

>turn on work pc

>start script to mimic key presses

>make coffee

>buy COMFY (ticker: WFH) on poocoin

poocoin.app/tokens/0x5a46377a45876121c03366cada8aeba3b6015464

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fc9f69 No.558 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

bitcoin = 200USD

I don't see it can go any lower, well that wasn't that bad I think. I see bit coin is a medium of exchange but not a store value.

what do you think?

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580f93 No.2809

>>2780

I don't think it will dip anytime soon

AFAICR the stock market and everything revolving around it is recovering, and latest political outputs in the US have been very positive

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d247c3 No.2816

File: 31dc2aa1c1d2641⋯.png (68.3 KB,1173x577,1173:577,btcusd120118.png)

ppcfag here, bitcoin's looking pretty healthy despite that crazy shakedown to 6k. long term trend from april last year (starting around $1k USD) seems to have held. there's no real news for it to have crashed so hard. i think the market's slowly gonna get soaked up back to $20k throughout the first half of the year, then new highs afterward. god bless the controlled supply and massive demand.

currently up about %1200 on my position, ready to cash out if bitcoin turns under 7k again. as always keep your risk measured.

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d247c3 No.2817

File: ea19be3116dce58⋯.png (84.49 KB,1177x575,1177:575,btcusd1d120118.png)

1d graph

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d247c3 No.2819

also BO yeah this thread is kind of a legacy, dunno if it should be bumplocked or what. do whatever you want.

Been thinking about starting a thread on technical analysis but frankly i've lost faith in people, easily %95 of internet users have no discipline or sense of scale. not sure if it's worth my time.

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da4aef No.2821

>>2819

There are many old threads on this board. Assuming a thread does not break any rules and isn't a shitpost, what gets bumplocked is personal situation or similar threads that gets resolved in a short amount of time. Example >>25

My perception is that threads like this can handle long term and gradual conversation. So it's fine to remain as is. It is also getting close to the normal bump limit. It's going to be either this thread or the /pol/ thread that becomes the first thread of the board to reach bump limit.

>Been thinking about starting a thread on technical analysis but frankly i've lost faith in people, easily %95 of internet users have no discipline or sense of scale. not sure if it's worth my time.

This board is small and slow paced. You can observe on the board list that there's a major decline in posts per hour after the top 25 or so boards. The main consideration would be the patience with regards to getting a response.

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0c53fd No.2237 [Open thread]

As reported here

>>>/n/574172

The crytocurrency exchange Bitfinex is often accused of artificially inflating the price of bitcoin with USDT, a blockchain asset made to represent the U.S Dollar. Recently that the company issuing Tether has a balance of 30 million dollars.

https://archive.fo/4cMe8

The same page now displays as unavailable

https://archive.fo/TGxUS

What do you think is the future of cryptocurrency, bitcoin and alts alike should Bitfinex be found guilty of fraud?

Since there are many alts, we can consider the following categories

>Alts with only BTC market

>Alts with ETH, LTC or other crytocurrency only markets

>Alts with non-tether fiat markets e.g GBP, EUR

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eb7f87 No.2737

>>2736

The referral link was edited.

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d82d56 No.2740

>>2737

Fuck, I'm retarded.

I might as well shill my own referral then.

https://share.robinhood.com/shlomos6000000

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d82d56 No.2741

>>2740

What's wrong with the CSS and spoilered links?

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b21073 No.2749

>be cautious about bitcoin prices in November knowing fully about the suspicions with Tether

>price was approaching 7k

>price soared to 19k anyways

>now Tether is a big deal because major news hit of Bitfinex/Tether getting a subpoena, almost 2 months after the fact

>bitcoin "crashes" to 8k

I'm just fine, but maybe right now is the dead cat bounce.

What I really want from bitcoin is just an online way to spend money pseudonymously (without credit card or Paypal). The ones I have are from faucets years ago, so I'm not wholly concerned about blockchain investigation and whatever to track identities.

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d82d56 No.2750

>>2749

>ones

You have >$8k worth in Bitcoin right now? Have you ever thought about taking some of that shit out in case it goes to sub-$1000 levels? Hell, APMEX lets you pay for stackable silver bars with bitcoin:

https://www.apmex.com/product/51412/1-kilo-silver-bar-apmex-stackable?utm_source=connexity&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_engine#

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