/biz/ - Business and Finance

I have an elaborate budget, the pertinent part of which is $200 devoted toward my brokerage account. Most of the time now I buy something when I reach over $1,000 in the account.

3k post tax

-1k mortgage

-200 food

-300 student loans

-90 for public bus

-180 for personal office (plan to eventually let it lapse once I finish some projects)

-rest I sock away for travel\books\investing.

>>1919

>get a 2nd job

Real slave hours going on there if both are fulltime.

Invest in new language,

Save a stash to convert US money into shitty 3rd world money

Become rich in 3rd world shitty post soviet country

Anyone still into this?

>>3427

Yea me. I have a few leads. Look up penny stocks oct nov 2018 on Tube, guy has specific reports to watch for in biomed. We should keep this going

>>1350

Also lurking

>>3430

>>3427

>>3732

i still check

>>2501

and

>>2338

need to come back

Where my trading/investor anons at?

>>4281

The board is tiny sure, but some marketing company is going to conflate 8chan with 4chan.

>>4200

Sorry for the late reply, bro.

>not a fan of TA

Then how do you know when to buy and sell? Knowing how to identify changes in trends is important, desu. You don't want to buy when the stock's likely to shortly bounce of resistance or when there are signs that a positive trend's about to end.

>not the same for different time periods

Sure, depending on the circumstances, if the sample is from a timespan that's short or long, the analysis can get unreliable. I think resistance levels from a year or two are meaningful when you're dealing with something as massive as the dow jones index chart.

I highly recommend Investopedia for anyone that wants to trade in securities. It's free, accurate and covers everything. Look up topics like the different types of margins, how to do fundamental analysis, fund-types and technical stuff like RSI, SMA, EMA, Stochastic Oscillator, MACD. Whenever you encounter a word you're uncertain about, look it up. It's easy.

>>4340

>Then how do you know when to buy and sell?

I just buy and hold. I don't believe retail investing has the ability to predict how the market is going to move better than random chance. there's a substantial amount of academic research that backs that up. and on the other side there's a billion dollar industry that wants people to believe the opposite so they keep paying trading fees.

>I think resistance levels from a year or two are meaningful when you're dealing with something as massive as the dow jones index chart.

there are so many formations and trends that if you generated random stock data and graphed it then TA would read something out of it.

TA as a methodology is more like those astrology horoscopes you find in the newspaper. it throws out a bunch of guesses and people latch onto anything that happens to be correct and forget the rest.

Not to necro this thread, but as the board is pretty necro might as well. How are my stock bros doing? I am thinking defense and oil are the next big moves and plan to invest in it since there will be more regulation on oil thus costs will go up (have both foreign and domestic) and with war stocks I think Uncle Biden will somehow brew up a terrorist attack (wink wink). Anyone else brewing up anything?

Give it to me. I'm white and I need it.

Give it to me

Im northafrican

I will stop the immigration

>>3773

>>3771

We Build The Wall, Inc. has a proven record.

https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

There is also an offline option.

>>3760

Donate to Moor Citizens and Sovereign citizens in their lawsuits against public officials. Enjoy said lulz.

There's decent discussion in this thread >>3179

but the bait format of the OP is a bit annoying.

If anyone wants it to be edited e.g to add a thread title, or add to OP text, just ask for a mod edit.

Received ban appeal and lifted ban.

https://8ch.net/log.php?board=biz

Cleaned two threads from the catalog. http://archive.is/8nEka

>>>/b2/631341

>>>/v/16759972

>>>/tech/1083591

>>>/leftypol/2961400

>>>/pol/13574096

https://archive.fo/2mPin

https://blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/

http://archive.today/2019.08.05-014817/https://twitter.com/kevinroose/status/1158188641946165248

https://web.archive.org/web/20190805020908/https://new.blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/

did not expect to see this board alive again.

is the same BO running the place?

>>3337

Get 3 part time jobs to work 12 hour days, for 12$ an hour,

In five days you should have around 700$?,

You pay that to them, and keep working until you've paid off all 5000$ +any interest they tack on for being late.

And go to confession. You might die soon.

> I need to get from 0 to 5000 in 5 days or else,

How good are you with your mouth?

>>4287

I think OP has been dead for a year now. Probably not very.

>>4360

seriously read that book. I want a report written on it posted here by next week. joking [spoiler]not really[/spoiler]

>>4362

i have listened to the audiobook up until the MVP (minimum viable product) part.. but what if I am copying other business? do I still need to do a MVP? cause the business I want to copy is already in the market, it is just that it is only popular at America.. which is 4chan

>written report

eehhh not like this (0v0 ) hehe

>>4364

i mean, almost like old Yikyak (before they crashed and burned after the new update), I mean their initial success prove that they did something right in the market..

>>4353

>>4354

>entering the highschool they want, university they want, what (not how) to dress, what (not how) to speak, what (not how) to think, always apologize to them

Move away from your parents.

>told me to gain experience working at any job

They're right on that. I'm speaking from personal experience; I was in a similar position.

>managerial dept. are shit at any place

You cannot possibly know that.

>any experiences that I will gain are useless

Not true.

>cause need to learn office politics bullshits and all that

I don't get that but ok, however you sure as hell are not going to learn anything about office politics from a book or something, only by working in one.

>>4357

>independence isn't doing the opposite of what your parents want, it's making decisions independent of them, even if that means coming to the same conclusion.

this.

>>4361

>nothing you've said so far has made me think you're parents are bad people

I disagree.

>>4358

>They do not even let me rent a room.

Do it anyway, you're 23 and not their prisoner. They don't have control over your bank account etc., do they?

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>>2871

Ive come from 4chan, far too shilly over there now, very little good convo.

>>2269

it's just pictures of brappers and LINK/sergey

>>2157

i keep getting banned from 4chan because kike jannies. so i come here but theres only one post every 2 hours. fucking lame

Halfchan's /biz/ has great stock market threads. Wish there were more stock traders here.

>>3894

>Doing so would raise wages across the board, lower the cost of housing, and lower worker compliance since the labor market would be shifted heavily in the favor of workers. Employers would be forced to train their workers themselves again.

this is all shit that happens *because* there's a labor shortage.

>There is no labor shortage or skills gap, it is all corporate propaganda to keep the visa workers and immigration flood gates open.

so you're saying that the labor shortage is a lie, but we should make it real?

>>3895

>so you're saying that the labor shortage is a lie, but we should make it real?

Yes, so wages can have some real growth, housing can go down, to encourage companies to start training again, and so workers don't have to be so compliant. I do not care about companies having maximum profit.

Landscaping might have some problems without visa workers, but the only people that benefit from landscaping businesses are the owners themselves, visa workers subsidize them. There are plenty of goods and services that are not made anymore because it is not economically viable, should all of those be subsidized too? Door to door milk delivery in glass probably isn't profitable anymore even if the employees were all paid minimum wage. Some company, I can't remember which exactly, stopped producing high end Blu-ray players, should whatever country that company is in subsidize them so they can keep making them? The only reason landscaping might be a problem is because in the US you can be fined for not mowing your lawn which can be easily fixed by making it so you can't be fined for not having your lawn mowed.

Automation is supposed to remove tens of millions of jobs from market in a few years, self driving cars alone are supposed to remove millions. Whatever jobs are left will pay less, even programmers and engineers. Every extra person you take in now is going to make the damage done that much worse.

Higher wages would probably make automation happen faster, but it is going to happen anyway. Fast food jobs where I live pay a dollar or so above the state minimum wage, but after the 2008 crash when they were only minimum wage, self serving kiosks were being made anyways. Minimum wage could be half of what it is now and they would still automate as much as possible. Some study in the UK found officie workers were only productive 2 something hours out of their 8 hour shift. Many manufacturing positions can already be eliminated right now through improving the process, using different materials, or with automation.

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>>3896

for someone who believes that automation will destroy jobs, you've come to a very strange conclusion. you're talking like jobs are the only relevant resource and people need to be reduced to match the supply.

the debate around how automation will affect the job market has mostly been either "new jobs will be created like with the industrial revolution, business as usual" or "everything will be so cheap that society will change it's relationship with work and push UBI or some other scheme". I haven't heard much of this worst of both worlds where everything is done by robots so we have to hunker down and ration out our limited respectable places in society.

>>3238

>>2836

tell me why you dont want to practice medicine.

>Every single time I go to my yearly checkup at my heart doctor the lobby is filled with a bunch of fat people and older people that obviously don't take care of themselves.

DING DING DING

>>2836

fake news. wages are still dog shit

>>1892

Something that is along what your trying to achieve would be teaching yourself some black hat skills. I can comfortably say that most dating sites have terribly insecure chat rooms that would facilitate some funky blackmailing.

scammed someone out of 16k but showed my face. didn't use real info at all though. they cant get to me since they are trapped in a third world shithole now and probably forever.

scamming kinda sucks, cause its liek a joba nd you need to come up with new scam all the time and if you a retard and you get caught scamming pays less than minimum wage

the ICO game was easy as fuck to scam, lets see what comes next

>>2717

>scammed someone out of 16k but showed my face. didn't use real info at all though. they cant get to me since they are trapped in a third world shithole now and probably forever.

based and devilpilled

Your plan is to Craigslist shits then rob peoples.

Old as world.

Make a scam bot so it's not you that scam it's the bot so your karma is free kek

need more link

>>3245

At what age did you start and with what? In what field did you make most of your money? Just stocks?

Time.

Im not very smart at business stuff and I am too honest. I feel like every successful peron I have met is a scheister.

Because I don't know how to solve a millions people's problems.

>>3558

Isn't getting banned from various 4chan boards almost a sport by now?

>>3558

I just got banned for a month because I shat up too many spam threads made by telegram PnD groups. Was getting 3 day bans here and there for a few months, but I guess I must have fucked with a shit token that a mod was in on, and boom. Month-long ban. That place needs a serious cleansing.

I got banned from /co/ for stating that bridges made by women and browns are prone to more structural integrity issues than those made by whites, it was relevant to the thread too

Jannies there suck cock for free

They banned me for some reason, they claimed posting CP but i never did that. I did shit on the tranny janny fervently though

>>3538

ohh hide country is there too..

>>3506

How shit do you think Holochain is? Always liked low sat coins since I've had decent luck with them blowing up in pump and dumps over the years, but do you really think HOT's distributed hosting system is trash? I've only got a few sats left before my stop lose is pushed anyway but I'd appreciate your input on why you think it's a scamcoin.

>>3512

>>3514

Everyone hiding their flag is a pajeet

>>3539

Prepare to be ignored if you hide country. Flags are on for a reason.

the chain link project is pretty gucci

>>2672

Finally we will finally see how many pajeets shill their shitcoins.

>>3374

a year ago we did not need resurrection as bad as we need it today.

>>2696

I'm trading 3 months on demo account and making profits

Teach me your ways Anon kek

I've had trading phase around 2010 , traded 6 months 24/5 and made nice profits in the silver bullrun.

Portfolio overall + 40% / 6months

Forex is BS, 90% of faggots lose , and much more life-draining than crypto.

>>2671

here we are mah dude. Curious about the bullrun and 4ch going down

I've had the thought.

So if a lot of the early buyers do get their funds back, can we expect them to dump the price down? They, or at least a lot of them (~10% of supply), essentially have been prevented from selling during the bull run to $5 (don't remember the sat price, but they would've profited there as well).

I can expect many are not happy with the situation and IOTA Foundation.

>>2295

As an update to this, I actually got my funds back. This whole issue still shouldn't have happened to begin with.