/arda/ - Tolkien's Legendarium

If you're still here, did you make the /arda/ board on smuglo.li?

Yeah, but keep in mind there are people who think superhero movies are the finest fiction available.

>>1825

hur hur hur

the potter movies are good and hackson got lucky with fellowship considering everything hes made since

>>1549

What are u talking about? Most lotr threads are stupid questions answered a thousand times by autists

/tv/ is the board I get banned from the most. No reason to post there.

>>2045

It's actually very fun to play. We always stayed away from certain things tho. Like the war of the ring, elves, dwarves and classic fireball magic. We only played as humans or hobbits. You also need a harsh game system like Rolemaster etc. with injuries to make combat hard and punishing. LotR is not suitable for hack n slay. Also travelling was always a big part of the adventures. There are so many source books and adventures that you really don't need to come up with everything.

Post some of the gamebooks, OP.

>>2080

http://merp1.free.fr/

http://merp2.free.fr/

>>2084

You can find it in it's entirety on the trove. I remember there was also a website that had some fan made content as well but alas I have forgotten it's name and cannot find it.

>>2324

Graphics look good enough and I like the stylised visuals. I can only hope they do not take anything away from the main series.

I thought they weren't going to base gollum on the movie version

>>2322

shut up gollum is based

>>2309

95 is a repectable age to go

RIP Chris and the whole estate

About time. Now Tolkien's family can finally profit from his hard work before it starts to decay into public domain.

>>2309

So sad. He was a great curator.

>>2314

>About time. Now Tolkien's family can finally profit from his hard work before it starts to decay into public domain.

What appalling cynicism.

>>2320

>So sad. He was a great curator.

This. I'm glad he got to sort and publish his father's work so that everybody can experience it like he did.

Why didn't Ilúvatar bitchslap some sense into Morgoth.

>>1921

>Thinks he's not falling for the argument from abstraction or it's cousin the continuum fallacy

<Literally appeals to the continuum fallacy

>He thinks pointing out the fact that materialist models literally CANNOT explain consciousness in any way, shape or form is saying consciousness "is magic"

How did such a brainlet ever make it through a book as long as the lord of the rings?

>>1619

The Valar can't do so much as piss without upheaving continents. Did you not pay attention to what happened to Beleriand? Taking on the Numenorean arsenal means saying goodbye to Valinor - the collateral damage would be so great that the elves and the thousands of years of history they shared on the continent would be gone within a few months. The Valar would win, but it would be the ultimate Pyrrhic victory.

Finally, Ar-Pharazôn's doom is to fight in the Dagor Dagorath and having the Valar murder him and his fleet would undermine that doom, potentially shifting the final results to a Morgoth victory. Mandos would realize this and caution Manwe accordingly.

>>1963

Why did the mods do this?

>>2092

Doesn't need to. Morgoth's shenanigans achieve nothing in the end.

>>1419

Turns out there was quite a few of them

How good is Battle for Middle Earth? itching for a LOTR strategy game

>>2308

Not really what you were asking, but the LotR mod for Medieval 2 Total War is pretty fun. But admittedly, I get off from the meaty cavalry charges in the base game, so I particularly enjoy playing with special units like the nazgul-led black numenorian knights. Mordor faction is like smashing a powered hammer on an anvil made from papier-mâché (the orcs).

>>2315

Really can't get into total war but I might give it a go.

I think I'll give the Crusader Kings 2 mod a try too, now that its a little more updated.

>>901

What about Yvette Mimieux? She was really beautiful.

Sauron and Gandalf's wizard fight in Fellowship consists of a series of force-shoves until one of them gives up. They might as well have played the South Park variant of roshambo.

Boromir's characterization is ruined.

No Tom Bombadil (fuck you, there's tons of lighthearted toneshifts in the movie as is).

>>2293

Yeah that weird jedi duel is lame as fuck and smacks of needing to add action into the movie

i did not watch the movies. i mean why would i, i have already read the books

Just verifying board functionality but flood detection is on my ass.

>>2012

Hello again

Oh fuck fedora tippers are about to derail this thread like they derailed the Elrond thread.

>>2014

Did you even read this over a year old thread? Most of the talk is about pockets, not anything in the OP.

>>1987

so is christian God, yet Leviathan, another monster is something he doesnt recognize as his own creation.

>>1984

She's either

A). A powerful Maia, maybe even the most powerful of the Maiar.

B). The primordial darkness leftover from when Eru and the Ainu sang the universe into existence.

As with many things in the legendarium, Tolkien himself contradicts his own writing multiple times depending on the source you read because he didn't make his own ass mind up, creating endless room for fan shitflings.

>>2275

It doesn't seem impossible that Sauron was up and about, but based on how the good guys' plan hinged on Sauron assuming the Ring was in Gondor, and how Sauron's metaphorical gaze apparently emanating from his tower is implied to turn from the battle at Black Gate to Mount Doom when Frodo and pals are there, I'd say it would have been a Nazgul or some lesser lieutenant that would have gone to check the ruckus at Cirith Ungol. The orc report wasn't about the Ring, but some elf or sneaky dwarf, after all.

My interpretation is based on the image I have of Sauron at the time as a demented gaffer that has had one too many hits to his head, and really doesn't want to risk another costly bodily death by leaving his tower ever again, similarly to how Morgoth was in the end. I imagine dueling with an elf lord at an unimportant mountain pass would have been one the last things he would have wanted to do.

>>2276

True. Didn't work out too well for Morgoth when he tried to look like a tough guy in front of his minions when Fingolfin challenged him.

Thinking about it more, it does only mean that the guards of Cirith Ungol were told to report the capture of prisoners and if they had any rings, doesn't mean the message got sent before orcs gonna orc and they all killed each other

>>2281

>if they had any rings

This part throws me off a bit. How common is the audience supposed to think magical rings actually are? A lot of the behaviour of the characters (like Gandalf taking his sweet time even though he was aware of a ring that turned mortals invisible) only makes sense if there's plenty of magical rings to go around, but we only get to read about the sauronic sixteen plus Three plus One, and Saruman's failed(?) attempts, if I recall correctly.

>>2282

Magic rings are rare. There are some lesser ones other than the rings of power though.

I think you misread the passage though, it doesn't mean magic rings, it just says report all of their possessions. I only mentioned specifically rings in my reply because it was the only part that was relevant.

Sauron's troops are told to report all clothes, letters, rings etc to disguise what Sauron is actually looking for. IIRC only the nazgul were aware of the ring of power because they couldn't act against Sauron. If the orcs and evil men were told "Hey keep an eye out for this magic ring our Lord needs for his power" then every single soldier in Mordor's armies would be plotting to steal it if it showed up.

TL;DR Magic rings are rare, but not so impossibly rare that Gandalf shat his pants when Bilbo did a magic trick with one and Sauron was hiding his true objectives

>>2282

From all we know, magic rings are purely from Sauron's coming to Eregion, and neither predate nor postdate it. Sauron being a Maia once under Aule, probably had the ability already under his belt before then. It's hard to imagine that forging magic rings would be beyond the ability of say, the forges of Gondolin which already produced plenty of considerable artifacts in their heyday, but as far as the prose is concerned, rings are purely from Eregion.

>>2286

I'd set it in the years before the Downfall. First few episodes would be worldbuilding and the defeat and capture of Sauron, then the series would follow Sauron worming his way into power as an advisor, focusing on the Faithful's struggles as they were treated worse and worse by the King's Men. Climax and end of the series would be the downfall, final scene would be Elendil and the other survivors establishing Arnor

>>2287

Taking bets. How many episodes will it take before Ar-Pharazôn declares he will Make Númenor Great Again?

>>2288

The anti-elf stance of most Númenoreans will be changed to a racism thing for sure. I don't even want to see how many niggers are in it (exclusively on the side of the Faithful of course)

>>2286

Why does it have to be fanfiction? Unfinished Tales has loads of source material that could be adapted. I'd actually like to see a Fall of Gondolin Miniseries myself

>>2286

Tolkien abandoned his only narrative set in Numenor for a very good reason: it's just not an interesting enough setting to hold the viewer's imagination captive. It's a paradise island corrupted from within over centuries of covet and lust for further power. Like the traditional Platonic Atlantis story, it tells far more as a parable for mankind rather than as a structured story on the lines of the Hobbit/LoTR or the Children of Hurin.

>>1517

Me too, I could've sworn I'd posted their take on the Song of Durin in here.

>>1526

It absolutely was. I re-watched Fellowship the other day, and Howard Shore hit it right on the money with the score.

>>1526

Howard Shore's best work in my view.

>>1526

No matter your opinion on the movies, the soundtrack was a masterpiece.

This is my favorite version of this song.

>>2240

It was the Children of Hurin. It's really a joy to listen to. You feel like you're there with the characters. Unfortunately, you can only find it on Audible because YT removed it. Would be great if someone shared it *nudge nudge*.

'''Unfinished Tales (2000) narrated by Erin Jones: BARD: Braille and Audio Reading Download

'''

https://btbl.library.ca.gov/ca1aopac//title/summary.jsf?id=93719032.3232

Audiobooks: Tolkien Gateway

There have been several Audiobook editions of J.R.R. Tolkien's work. Years refer to the most recent reissue.

http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Audiobooks.

The Hobbit read by Nicol Williamson

https://archive.org/details/NicolWilliamsonHobbit/

>>2242

Here's a magnet link for it :^)

J. R. R. Tolkien - 2007 - The Children of Hurin [V0]

Read by Sir Christopher Lee

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