No.1060
Psst.
Psst, hey Melkor. Yo.
Melkor.
What's in your other hand?
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No.1061
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Give it to me
I must have it
Precious treasure
I deserve it
Where can I run
How can I hide
The Silmarils
Gems of treelight
Their life belongs to me
Oh it's sweet how the
Darkness is floating around
Blackheart show me
What you hold in your hand
I still hunger for more
Release me
From my pain
Give it to me
How I need it
How I need it
How I need it
I did my part
Now it's your turn
And remember
What you've promised
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No.1062
Why didn't Melkor just put the Fëanor testes in his pocket?
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No.1079
>>1062
idiot.
pockets weren't invented back in olden times
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No.1081
>>1079
>master god of artifice and deception
>can't design prototype carriable containers excellent for hiding stolen objects
doubtful_face.tapestry
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No.1163
>>1062
Pockets are full of darkness, Ungoliant would immediately know if he put them in one, being the embodiment of primordial darkness.
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No.1164
>>1163
Everything is full of darkness if you ignore light sources, which the silmarils were, and Ungoliant wasn't described as omniscient.
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No.1165
>>1079
Even Gollum had a pocket.
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No.1168
>>1164
And you think Ungoliant wouldn't notice a light source that powerful being stuck in a pocket?
This isn't some shitty dollar store flashlight, it's a goddamn silmaril.
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No.1169
Morgoth didn't have pockets REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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No.1171
>>1168
If she could see everything stuck in dark places, even if those places were illuminated, she would see everything then. Or are you saying as an embodiment of darkness she was omniscient in regards of light sources?
If Morgoth put the silmarils in his pocket, those pockets would be close to holiest and most illuminated places on Arda.
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No.1292
Actual speculation on these legendary figures is silly.
Keep it to simple memes and gags.
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No.1297
>>1292
>assuming speculation about Melkor's pockets could possibly be serious
Come on now, nobody can be that autistic.
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No.1379
True pockets weren't invented until at least the 16th century, before then pockets were just pouches sewn to the outside of clothes or hung on belts
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No.1984
>>1060
What the fuck was Ungoliant anyways? She wasn't created by Morgoth like most evil creatures, so was she created by Illuvatar? Did he make her as an evil devouring spider shadow, or was she something else before corrupting herself?
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No.1985
>>1984
The are primordial beings beyond Eru. Very Lovecraftian.
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No.1987
>>1985
Eru is supposed to be an omnipotent god, so nothing is beyond, Ungoliant is likely another Umaiar like Melkor and the balrogs.
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No.1988
>>1985
She was like Tom Bombadil in that Tolkien never gave her an origin because she was supposed to be a mystery
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No.1989
>>1988
Except Ungoliant actually exists as a major influence in Elven mythological chronicles and not merely as an inconsequential non-entity in the hobbit folk lore tradition and dubiously exaggarated travel literature.
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No.1993
>>1989
Being a major influence does not mean she can't be a mystery
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No.2009
>>1987
*omnipotent in this universe
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No.2010
>>2009
There's no multiverse in LOTR get your fanfiction out of here also the universe didn't exist until he made it so being "omnipotent in this universe" doesn't make any sense
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No.2011
>>2010
There can be one universe, but multiple dimensions. Hmmm…
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No.2012
>>2010
Considering the sub-creation, is Eru really YHWH reaching down to Tolkien's imagination to enact miracles, like mass-genocide by tectonic activity and pushing midgets in lava?
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No.2013
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No.2014
Oh fuck fedora tippers are about to derail this thread like they derailed the Elrond thread.
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No.2015
>>2014
Did you even read this over a year old thread? Most of the talk is about pockets, not anything in the OP.
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No.2298
>>1987
so is christian God, yet Leviathan, another monster is something he doesnt recognize as his own creation.
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No.2302
>>1984
She's either
A). A powerful Maia, maybe even the most powerful of the Maiar.
B). The primordial darkness leftover from when Eru and the Ainu sang the universe into existence.
As with many things in the legendarium, Tolkien himself contradicts his own writing multiple times depending on the source you read because he didn't make his own ass mind up, creating endless room for fan shitflings.
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