/sunflower/ - Sunflower

>>2708

I'm here. Seeing this thread for the first time myself.

>how do I actually activate sigil

>peanut brain

Finally someone who is on my level. Seems like we have some stuff in common my friend.

You can just draw the sigil on a sheet of paper or in the sand/dirt outside. Then just imagine energy going into it until it's charged and you think it's done. You can also imagine charging it with your own energy. It doesn't need to charge that long. I always imagine the sigil starts to glow red or burn in a blue fire or sth like that when I think it's done. I am usually lazy and only visualize the sigils in my mind or just look at the posted pics of them but recently I decided to stop being an asshole and actually draw this one and the sensitivity sigil myself on my whiteboard…and it took probably over a dozen tries to get it decently right. I didn't know drawing shapes was this hard lol(especially cicles). But I don't think it has to be perfect, just the proportions and important details have to fit. Also if I remember correctly for the Alissa sigil you are supposed to draw it in one single stroke. Anyway, after your sigil is done and charged you can ask Alissa to get the vampire spell. Visualize her coming towards you or sth like that if you want to make it easier and talk to her. I think after all this she should 100% be with you and hear you, if she doesn't already know by now.

However I'm absolute no expert on this stuff as hinted at above so don't think I'm 100% right. I am very thankful to have the spell casted on me manually back then and to have gotten so many energy readings.

>>2705

I'll leave the mega link from fringe here which is full of pdfs that deal with vampirism. The most notable works in it are imo the ToV and Strigoi Vii stuff, also "Akhkharu - Vampyre Magick". I have not read all of them btw. I guess all of those are about the loosh-farming kind of vampires which are often shat on because they are not blood-drinker and "not real". But blood is just the physical carrier for life-force so I don't really get what's the deal. You either drink the physical stuff or directly eat the energy. As long as it's an immortal and undead witch that feeds/has fed on life/the living it's a vampire in my book. I also include the codex and the Atazoth book in this post because I think they are not in that folder.

https://mega.nz:/#F!ksVUFJDB!hjDoqsUugqAP27T6jCTZJw

and also the book that is posted on 4/x/ all the time. It's about an alleged interview with a female blood-drinking vampire named "Elizabeth". Yeah, the only name a vampire woman can ever have! I don't know if it's fiction or not but I find it interesting. Also what makes it actually believable is spoiler: She never shows up for the actual interview and it just ends like that

Maybe some remote-viewer or someone who can ask spirits can shed more light into this issue if there is any truth to this stuff.

Now I'm also requesting the book "The Delicate Dependency" by Michael Talbot. I have not been able to get my hands on this vampire book yet and I heard it's good and may contain some truths in it. If anyone can help out with it I would be very thankful.

>>2710

>Maybe some remote-viewer or someone who can ask spirits can shed more light into this issue if there is any truth to this stuff

What I got is that the author is honest, but the girl was pretending.

As for "vampires". Honestly. Anyone can increase their life force by taking it off people's aura without harming them (sometimes even helping them). Besides people there are a million sources. Vampires are childish energy workers to me.

>>2711

People who have discovered how to become completely immortal without requiring an external source. Now that's something else.

To complete my post above I might as well post some more vampire-related entities just to have it all here.

In the pic with the undead gods there is named "Matrigal" who teaches you vampiric immortality and drinking anothers soul. His sigil is there too. I guess he is a vampire god…but he doesn't seem to be part of the main 13 blight lords. I saw no mention of him on the homepage of the maergzjiran cabal.

Then there have been mentioned some japanese vampires of which I know nothing. As I understood it they are spirits living on the astral, or yokai. Maybe Rumia is one such vampire touhou, who knows. They are interesting to me but out of reach.

>>2712

>People who have discovered how to become completely immortal without requiring an external source.

Yeah I guess that's what some of us are doing here. Now we are actually coming to the illusive "Vampire Cabal", the real physically immortal vampires. As I understand it they used to drink blood but now they don't need it anymore. That's where Blood Anons vampire spell get's you to…or does it? The spell let's you create an "immortality standart" with the zero particle, but you will not join the "cabal" by default and automatically. The matriarch still needs to add you manually and link your lifeforce to all the other members. So if she doesn't add you…are you then still a vampire? Can this be called a vampire spell then? Maybe it's just a immortality spell. I have raised concern before about how long it takes for the Matriarch to add you and if she will add you at all. What if she doesn't add me? What if she doesn't agree with my views or doesn't like my energy or I'm just too degenerate or whatever? Not being added would suck imo and that's what still kinda worries me. This has never been properly adressed as far as I remember.

>>>2711

>but the girl was pretending

Yeah with someone who calls herself Elizabeth it wouldn't surprise me at all.

>Vampires are childish energy workers to me.

Most definetly are. It all depends on how the term itself is being used. Maybe it is right after all to shame all loosh-famer vampire ERPers and not accept them as vampires after all.

>>2710

>Maybe some remote-viewer or someone who can ask spirits can shed more light into this issue if there is any truth to this stuff

I read her energy from looking at the facsimile of her handwriting and she had a strange light green and white aura, which speaks for her at least being different than most people. It would indicate involvement in witchcraft of the nasty kind or having old age.

In relation to this, pic related guy posted on 4/x/ claiming to be a 200 years old non-vampire immortal. His story was too bad to be a roleplayer which speaks in his favor, it was too inconsistent and mediocre to fit in as a regular RP. Or maybe it was just drunk RP.

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/24994719/

>>2714

I knew that sigil looked familiar. I haven't seen DBS but I have seen pictures like this. Why is an exact mirrored version of that on Vegeta's armor? (I have also seen it on Goku's gi).

>>2719

The blood anon thing is thrown around a lot, I'm not in on it and only see people obessing over it but thanks to that I learn a bit each time about what's going on. I don't know whether he was legit but some of the anons obessing over the "spell" give me the impression that they expect it to do everything for them without effort. I doubt a 0D particle will be formed on its own from receiving his "spell". Even if it somehow does, what's asked in return? It's all fishy.

>>2725

>In the depictions of the vampyric fairies and zombies presented by the text, green is often shown to be interchangeable with white, particularly in the case of vampyric fae such as banshees.

He does mention both green and white interestingly enough.

>>2725

>more as red if anything

What I see on self identified spiritual vampires is red though.

>Makes me even more uncomfortable sharing my progress, oppinions and insights than it already was.

Yes we are all CIA here, very dangerous psy-op. That's what anon want to hear anyway.

>>2727

I understand what you mean for it was/is similar for me. And you are 100% right that one needs to put in the work and effort himself. But you also need to embrace the spell and treat it as real so it can properly guide you. Showing an genuine interest and belief in it and trying to figure things out. Having doubts about it or arguing against it and creation drama will most likely only be counter productive.

>>2726

>He does mention both green and white interestingly enough.

Maybe she was a vampire after all then. However she still probably would be one of the "failed" vampires though that still need blood and die after like 1000 years. Unlike the "real" vampires of the cabal who don't need blood anymore and don't die at all.

Now behold, I searched for "The Delicate Dependancy" by M.Talbot again and actually found it myself. It was easier to find than I tought. I think it's complete but I'm not entirely sure. Found a site where I had to register to get a pdf copy. I'll start reading it later tonight or tomorrow. It's 373 pages long, so a little bit longer than "The Vampyre" which is mentioned in the OP. I have read The Vampyre just this morning and liked it. What stuck most with me is the description of the Vampyre that he doesn't seem to notice his surrounding and his gaze never penentrates anything, like he stares but his gaze goes into nothing. I think I am a lot like this myself. Anyway, here you go with the pdf.

>>2726

>>2740

>so I'm not sure if I'm "prepared" for it in a sense.

It doesn't matter. You will become prepared along the way. "If you are destined to get the spell and make it, you'll make it." as it has been said in the earlier vamp threads.

>Noice, what's your experience been with it so far?

With the spell? Not much really. I can write out my story for you if you want, but most if not all of it happened inside my mind. There isn't really anything that I could say for sure the spell did for me. Nothing actually happened "out there" in the "real" world so far. But then again it's still early.

>>2757

See

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemetism

The Order of Aset Ka is a cult shilling the books by a certain writer and that's basically all they do. Anything substantial is behind a paywall.

You don't need them to work with the deities they claim to work with, besides the cult is harmful in itself. This connects to larger things which may not be on topic for this thread, but imo what is known as "kemetism" is a social movement of the same kind as the christian reformism, a 3 prong attack on the original religion as a result of their degeneration and intrusion on the spiritual territory of Santa Muerte.

Pic related, this is the triangular retaliation sent to the catholic church for coming to the americans continent. Kemetism is one point of a triangle which was retaliation for egyptian religion being brought there, what the other two points are is not known. It's possible Crowley's Thelema is another point of this triangle. The purpose of these movements is to stop them from coming to America by creating internal conflicts and confusion among the (degenerated) followers of the attacking religion. It's a real mess tbh. If you can identify the 3rd point of this triangle feel free to share.

The method connects into the prime number magic system often applied but rarely discussed as a method, where 3 is a triangle, 5 makes a pentagram, 7 ends up with a shape looking like a fidget spinner (something to think about the significance of!) if you attempt drawing it in one continuous line. ONA uses a 7 pointed star which can't be drawn as a single line as a method for reaching your own understanding of it through meditating on the meaning of the 7 fold way. I haven't looked into it but I'd suppose there are cults or societies using the numbers of 11 and 13 too as well as higher numbers but by then it gets really complex and the motivation for doing it that way is beyond my current understanding.

Here is "The Vampyre" that is mentioned in the OP.

"The Family of Vourdalak" was a nice read that I enjoyed. The style of it being more of a silly story told by an old guy to charm the ladies than something that pretends to be real/serious somehow added to the fun. Especially in the end when it didn't even make sense that the grandfather of the family was alive again after being staked and buried and confirmed dead by the hermit. It had a feel of mystery and horror to it that that really sucked me in. It was scary and wild, and that's how I like vampire stories best. For me, a vampire must be scary and wild in a way, monstrous even, otherwise it's boring. And the best part of it was that it was short and sweet and straight to the point.

I have also finished "The Delicate Dependancy". It may be much more realistic but it's also more boring. And it's kinda long. The vampires themselves were not really scary to me, them being bound by their morals of not ever hurting or killing a human, made them look weak and kinda gay. The plot they had going on and their motives were also really questionable. It was a good novel about vampires, but to be frank, I'd take something like Family of Vourdalak over it any day.

If you want to watch some vampire movies I recommend the 1979 Nosferatu movie which you can find on archive.org in English. Also on youtube you can find the first Hammer Dracula Film "Horror of Dracula" if you search a little. It's quite good too. I also liked "Interview with the Vampire", first and foremost because it is not about Dracula for once. I think those are the best vampire movies I have seen and can recommend so far, and I have not seen much yet.

I think movies like "Blade" or "Underworld" are alright but I don't really like that modern setting where the vampires are just normal assholes who have lost all mystery, power and charme. But for the modern movies a plus point is that vampires can actually be the good guys in them too.

About the 1979 Nosferatu, I like the intro and think it's really well done. The build up of Jonathans journey into a mystical land of twilight, the warnings of the gypsis, the epic scenery and music, it's all so good and sucks you right in.

And the ending is also nice and one of my favs when Jonathan, after everyone dies by the plague and the town is annihilated, his wife killed and Dracula too, rises up as a vampire himself and rides on into the night. The new Nosferatu…after he was idle and unconscious for most of the movie, transforming into an undead while around him shit was hitting the fan. I think in that case Jonathan and me are the same :^) I am weak and idle right now too while corona and shit is happening around me, but after the initial 5-7 years transformation I will rise as an undead and ride on into the night.

I've just read the post in the succubus thread concerning the multiple souls. For a vampire as you have said before all souls will be purged out of the body except for the main soul, or the one soul that will become the immortal vampire right? I just want to clarify this again. So one soul will remain in the vampire body. And if I am not that soul to remain I can expect to basically be blown out of my body virtaully any day? Well 3 years have passed and I'm still in my body. How can I know if the other souls are gone already? I still feel like a schizo at times with conflicting aims and wants, changing my mind over and over again. If I'm the soul to remain or to be purged out…both are fine with me. At least not staying a normal mundane in the physical. Who am I anyway? Am I the main soul, am I one of the assisting soul? My Gnostic view tells me that I'm the spirit and not the soul anyway. The spirit being the true awareness, the core of oneself and the soul or souls being created fake egos basically, elementals wich hold your false identity, memories and so on. Vampirism always seemed like proper oldschool Gnosis to me, which says that the Spirit (maybe this is what you call the main soul), the real me, will take over everything and all the rest will be purged. This would mean I won't be kicked out of my body because I'm sure I am the main soul. I really don't understand all that soul stuff, especially in relation to vampirism. Can you explain this here, BO?

>>3240

The situation is complex.

What is understood as of now is the following, in the plainest terms possible:

The human body is yin natured, which means cold, earthbound and female in nature. This body can be transformed into the milk white state and later vajra, the white diamond body, using qi gong terms. This body is limited and can only be used to travel within the nearest dimensions of the three realms, hell, earth and heaven. It's physical so it's just a construct.

The next layer beyond is the evil level. This body is the vampire body. It appears as male or female on the astral, but is dualistic and contains both forms. It's yang natured, the crystal form has the color of blood, red or anywhere on the scale of red. This body can also manifest a physical body, and can be seen by humans, but technically speaking it's not physical and should be categorized as a poltergeist or apparition.

Lastly we have the chaotic layer. The body here is divided into infernal and heavenly versions, where the heavenly is a white crystal at the highest purity, and the infernal is a red/pink crystal form. This is where the succubus body is located, if you join the Collective. So it's fully possible to be both a vampire and any other type of entity at the chaotic level, as long as they are compatible.

It would be possible to combine a vampire body at evil layer with a touhou witch at chaotic, or any other high level yokai, for example. What has been talked about here on this board mostly only concerns the vampire-succubus combination, as nothing else was elaborated on. There was for example no interest in the cat path of Bastet, even if it was mentioned.

These bodies all belong to one soul, so each soul needs to create their own bodies. Normally however, only 1 -2 souls at most has any real ability, the rest are too dirty and cannot learn anything in this life. The undead state is when the person's lifespan has ended, and the soul with the strongest reasons will occupy the spot among humans. One such reason could theoretically be that there is potential for complete development but the karma is too great, so the soul cannot be allowed to leave just yet, while another soul left and could complete their path on the astral.

>>3242

>The undead state is when the person's lifespan has ended, and the soul with the strongest reasons will occupy the spot among humans.

So you'll just go normally to the astral after your lifetime ends. Then what was the point of all that talk back then about living thousands of years and being young and immortal. You even told me I cannot die and I should have confidence in myself and now it all seems like there is a big chance I'll go to the astral soon anyway if I'm not the right soul. Am I really too brainlet to understand? Also if there is a level even above vampires, the touhou/chaotic level then that would mean vampires are not the true apex pretador. There are succubus who are even more powerful than vampires? Well naturally I want to go as high as possible, so should I join the succubus collective too to max out my potential? Cat path sounds actually pretty interesting too. I would join the succubus, except for the fact that I don't want to get stuck in some infernal region, or in a purely female body (even tho I don't mind having a female body at all but I want to be able to appear as male and any other thing.) or having a cave…what's the deal with the cave when I can have my own astral place anyway?

Well at the end of the day I cannot hide the fact that I hate the human shithole here and the human matrix (spirits who are brainwashed into believing them to be human and form a braindead herd-society) so going to the astral as a vampire would probably be a good thing. What bothers me is that I can't seem to understand all the facts about this stuff and what's actually going to happen. All I ever wanted is true freedom and independence, and of course true immortality which endures the cycles and the big bangs and big collapses of the universe(s). Is vampirism enough for that or must I rise higher to the chaotic level?

Also it's a shame nothing has been said about the cat path. First time hearing about this here.

>>3244

>So you'll just go normally to the astral after your lifetime ends

It can be confusing to realize you have multiple souls, but it's not like anything can go wrong with this. This board itself is too well monitored by a multitide of deities that they wouldn't let a valuable soul slip away for nothing. This may be the very reason you are feeling motivated to post about all this right now!

>Also if there is a level even above vampires, the touhou/chaotic level then that would mean vampires are not the true apex pretador.

They are among humans, because they can interact with the human world while in spirit form.

>Is vampirism enough for that or must I rise higher to the chaotic level?

It's inevitable that a vampire will rise up, it's just a matter of time. Those who linger as vampires have a slower development for various reasons. Some have more karma, others are just, well really autistic about details so they refuse to leave any part until they get it done in outermost detail, exactly like they want it. Combine OCD with immortality and someone can do this for a very long time.

A few different paths were mentioned here

>>13

among them the cat path.

But you don't have to pick only one, you can learn multiple. However it's important to get one body done properly so you don't end up with a bunch of half assed, unusable astral bodies and then you die and can't use either. So pick one and work on that first. If you really get stuck, you can do another while you try to solve that issue.

"Vampire" is also a vague term here in this context. Remilia is a vampire, but also a touhou. It can be argued that some witches use vampire magic. But this is as a style within Gensokyo, it's not the main feature. The words don't really explain this well, it's conceptually confused because no one has a clear mental model explained and accepted in society.

Don't forget we also had this thread and the sessions up and active for a long time, if you want to join Gensokyo, it was all explained during the course of these:

>>97

Not everything was posted on the board, but just to mention it, there are yokais of different kinds, some are cats. These are not the same as Bastet's catgirls, because they're from a different astral origin and they are gods in themselves.

>>3247

>valuable soul

That can't possibly be me tho lol.

>This may be the very reason you are feeling motivated to post about all this right now!

There is some nagging inner voice making me come back here and check stuff out every once in a while. I always want to know more even if my magical abilities are lacking. I also made this post after coming back here >>3222. I don't see myelf as a human anymore and don't want to be messed with like one.

Thanks for the explanation yet again. Because your understanding and your knowledge is so different from what I have learned on fringe and through my own studying over the years I might have a hard time to understand you but I think I'll get there eventually. Right now I'm saving some stuff from the boards before this site is nuked again (shame the pastebin with the astral body creation is down) and before sleep I will do the great reset sigil session. I think this increases the chance that even if nothing happens while I'm awake it might occur in a dream right after I fall asleep. Meanwhile may I ask you if you can check my astral surroundings real quick and see if Doris is still with me, the Silent Hill nurse that you sent me. If you have some time to waste. Back then I couldn't get any contact with her so I told her she can go if she wants to and I'm too big of a magical-failure and I haven't tried anything since then. If she is still there I would like to try get in contact again but is she left it's alright too.

>>3252

>Your energy is like a warm lantern to her

>She seems a little sad

Ahh kawaii. I will try again. I want to warm and feed her with my energy and make her my wife. Thanks for checking.

>>3247

>However it's important to get one body done properly

How do I go about doing the body properly? For example I want to do the vampire body first before moving on to the next one, what must I do? I assume it's different from just creating an astral body with visualization and energy projection?

>>3253

>How do I go about doing the body properly? For example I want to do the vampire body first before moving on to the next one, what must I do?

I can't speak for everyone, but the hatha yoga program by sadhguru including the isha kriya available for free in his app really does the job if you have all other parts of your practice in order. It may be more about your overall state than the tools in this case, but either way these do the job. Some regular ashtanga yoga thrown in and you can probably get all bodies transformed using only these simple tools.

https://isha.sadhguru.org/mobile-apps/

Point being here that it's important to know what you want and what your goals are. If you look in the group session thread, it's included in the deal that both Gensokyo and Japari Park will guide you to make the basic body during your 20 min visit.

>>97

The rest is just a matter of transforming the lot of it, bit by bit until done. Really, 3-4 months of 1-2 h daily practice would do the job for either of them, when it's only about the transformation itself. The human body is what it is, so transformation from this side isn't the big deal here, the hindus had a few 1000 years to perfect the methods so even the most basic stuff will work if done with some dedication. But you have to aim for something on the astral or nothing will happen. If you want to be Shiva, Radha or Kali in form, you should ask them to guide you :^)

I'd start with the 2 mentioned above though, the difficulty is a bit lower for the simplest form of these bodies.

>>3254

I'd love to participate in the sessions offered here just as much right now as I did back then when the board first came up but since I have a hard time getting in contact with any entity or doing astral travel this is a problem for me. But I give the yoga stuff a try, altought I never was a fan of sadhguru.

>If you want to be Shiva

I don't want to be directly them. I want to be my own (more or less) original form, but I want to be on the highest level possible. It's the same with the touhous. I want to be at the touhou level eventually and I like Remilia but I don't want to become her. I think I'd first have my vampire body completed and then I'll be ready to decide what path to take next. Maybe it will be the cat path, maybe the succubus collective, maybe something else. I need to make my foundations solid for now. How can I know I am working on my vampire body and not on another body when doing the yoga stuff or the sessions?

>>3248

In this post you said celibacy is recommended and sexual activities lead a human to hell, this I can understand. But what about my case? Will having sex with Doris impact my spiritual progress. Obviously I never had sex with spirits before except in dreams maybe, don't really know for sure, so I don't know how exactly it is. I don't even know if one cooms during the act or not. On top of that, I don't consider myself human anymore but a vampire now. Is it okay for me to stay physically celibate but to have sex with Doris (if I ever get this far?) And what about fapping? Is it as bad as regular sex for humans? You're wasting semen after all so I figure is bad, but will it lead a human to hell?

There is actually one more thing that is on my mind. It's the state of energy with the vampires and being undead. I didn't take the red crystal offered here because it takes energy and it has been said before that vampires are dried up energetically. It has also been said that vampires energy is being send into the cavemans cave or something like that. It looks like I barely have any energy to spare then. Can you elaborate on this too? How much energy do I have and how much can I spare? Is it save to feed Doris with energy and take the red crystal, or will I as a dried up vampire only suffer from it? Those things probably never get cleared up until I ask for it and I don't want to wait 1000 years until I can know for myself.

>>3259

>INCEL culture is also another highway to hell, they want to take part in those activities and may do so at first chance. Instead they should be happy they were saved by circumstances, but they don't value this opportunity.

They are blind and unable to see the good they have and the path to a better place. Just like with the MGTOW movement. Instead of recognizing the gold nuggets that those men get they choose to opt for pointless hate of women and for fucking sex-dolls while overglorifying men. They are blind to the enlightening message that MGTOW actually presents, which is the red pill about society, about both men and women and how to think for yourself and reclaim your own power and individuality. Literally going your own way and not being a braindead victim sheeple which is one of the most important things ever for a human to grasp. A woman could learn just as much from MGTOW as any men if she only cared enough and had eyes to see. But virtually nobody has eyes to see in our time. Then those fucking MGTOWs will go on about how Buddha has said that women can't get enlightened and only men can, completely distorting the message. What Buddha meant is that women may have it harder to attain enlightenment because of their nature and because of how society at that time brings them up but it's not impossible. And what he certainly meant first and foremost is that you shouldn't focus on sex and family but instead on your spiritual path and celibacy. In our day and age men are just as far gone as women, they are virtually the same now. All the good teachings and philosophies are but pearls before the swine.

>To stop being jews is the goal. Americans and muslims are all technically jews because of this.

Most people, first and foremost americans but of course not only, are jews through and through. Even those who preach against jews can't even fathom how much jew they already are in their mindset, behaviour and lifestyles. I always try to pay attention to how much jew or nigger I am, to be mindful of it and be like that as little as possible. The jew is the most recent and most direct manifestation of the corrupt demiurge, of the degenerating path to hell and to matter. So fighting against your own inner shadow, your own demiurge is the same as fighting against your own inner jew. I hope that vampirism will help me to purge my inner jew, or at least subdue him completely and render him docile for good. One can either be on the spiritual path or a jew as it seems in our day and age. Btw I read somewhere else that the original jews were actually pretty based, maybe aryan even. They only got corrupted and eventually extinct by a mixtrue of the most vile and degenerate tribes from around the region who then became the new jews, basically the jews we know today. Not sure if this is true but it's interesting stuff.

Anyway, thanks for your posts and time. If there is anything else you wish to share while the board is still up go ahead, otherwise I'll go inactive again and continue to work on myself. Bye bye!

Why did I found this pic only today? This pic was around even before I took the vampire spell. I found it now because of the skinwalker-babymetal-soul-incident I have started to listen to their music again and checked out some pics. This depiction of the zero particle represents exactly what I saw years ago on halloween when I was walking in the forest and then started to feel really shitty and sick, then I went almost completely blind and had a hard time staying on my feet. I started to see lights before my eyes and they formed to exactly this. I went blind except for seeing this. Regard the upper-left part of the particle how it is not really complete yet, but almost. This is exactly how it appeared to me before my eyes and I think at that time I saw it being completed into a full circle (even tho BO told me much earlier that I had already made it). As I have said before I tought I was dying but eventually it got better. To this day I still haven't gone to any doctor or stuff. This incident has never repeated itself since. Also keep in mind I had multiple episodes of weakness in smaller intensities BEFORE THAT where I first saw only one quarter of the circle before my eyes and then a half a circle. Every time this happened I felt sick.

Man I miss those times of the early vampire threads. It was a time of magic and hope and new confidence. I had stuff like this happening to me and had all sorts of extravagant dreams, there was excitement for something to happen every day. A lot new stuff came into my life by itself like Touhou and Babymetal and all the fringe books I have found, and everytime you saw an elderly but beautiful noble looking lady you toughts its the Matriarch lol…Now I only feel like a turd floating in the canalization, a soul in the oblivion between worlds, not able to return to the mundane human world and not yet able to set foot on the shores of magic and immortality. The currents are ripping my sanity apart.

I'm thinking about taking the vampire ERP up again. Not because I hope to literally return to the older times and relive the nostalgia, but because I hope it will once again open up the possibilities for me and bring even more new and exciting stuff and development into my life. I'll use the same energy but to move even further, not to go back. And who knows, maybe contact with the Cabal and my NDE is just around the corner. When you are flaoting in oblivion without any solid ground or anything to hold on and you are completely alone, this vampirism thing may just be the boat you need to climb upon and start rowing into your desired direction until you finally arrive at the shore of magic. It can brighten up the dark night of the soul.

>>3501

So many things are predetermined to some degree. I've had a number of "checkpoint" dreams with scenes I felt had a symbolic meaning beyond what I could grasp at the time. All of these have later come to me in real life, and the strange inexplainable situation was at the time clear to me.

Over time, I've realized this is happening because a previous life me went ahead in a parallel timeline and drew up the main direction including these checkpoints. When I reach them, it means I'm walking along the path I had myself already prepared.

Dropping by to wish Happy Walpurgisnight to my fellow Vampires and Others. Anyone is doing something interesting or fun tonight? I figure since BO claims the "Veil" is down it is a good time to go and check it out. If there is one perfect day to just go out in the night and meet some fairies and stuff then it's on Walpurgisnight. So far I haven't seen much difference, let alone spirit beings but tonight is the night, right? Originally I wanted to commit seppuku tonight to just go straight to the astral but I figure it's better to do the ritual on Halloween and the Day of the Dead. Walpurgisnight is more about connecting to your higher self, your inner Dragon, and about celebrating your life. Also I finally got my hands on the two japanese movies "Lake of Dracula" and "Evil of Dracula" and it would be a shame not to watch them now.

Walpurgisnight is also about "rebirth" so anyone who wants to change something about themselves or commit to some practice or stuff can do it from tonight. My practices have never been really outstanding, let alone perfect and I have never managed to become pure until now, despite doing mandalas of meditation and stuff so I figure tonight is the perfect time to purge those inner demons and tripple-down on my spiritual practices and lifestyle. At least for the next 6 months. Quitting videogames and stupid shows for good, caffeine and alcohol also(not even black tea anymore), absolutely no porn or fapping…investing much more time and energy into meditation and spiritual practices. Just some examples. I figure when you clean yourself up and get serious then 6 months should be enough to get some really good spiritual results. The point is, anyone can do it and join me on this path to better oneself get on with their magic powers if you want.

Anyway, this is supposed to be a magical night of celebration so have fun tonight and celebrate your own immortal, eternal self. Cheers!

>>3864

>seppuku

Are you one of the vampires?

It's not like I can say much about this in itself considering I killed myself in most of my past lives and here I am, with those past lives' as immortal avatars. But you can't do this out of any negative feelings. No despair, no death wish. Whatever I did was to preserve my perfection exactly like it was. It was out of love for myself.

My plans for the night are mediocre at most, to achieve something mediocre. In a world of no values, this will beat everything. It's a simple thing of what you choose to put in the fire, what intent is there behind it. Something large can be reduced to something small, and then control can be assumed. No one can object to me taking something mediocre, right? What I do with it after is my thing. Should I choose to scale it up again, this doesn't change the fact that the value was small when I received it.

>>3867

It has to be cryptic because being specific online can be a bad idea. I won't be an evil tyrant because I base my actions on chaos, evil is just one side of dualism and too limited.

As it appears, this thing played on auto, all I had to do was to jump at the chance. The jew magic I stole by being more of a jew than the jews themselves, fully activated.

You know how certain comedy shows are meant to program you to laugh at logic and make you resistant to non liberal values? That's the main weapon. Someone explained all of this, I happened to see it on, maybe kohlchan, I think. A set up where someone is being made fun of, or an argument is being made fun of, then they add laughter to make you think it was funny, then before you are able to think, they move to the next one. Very elaborate.

This is the core of the jewish power structure. So simple you won't notice. Now this belongs to me. A mediocre thing in valueless land. I will now abuse this to ridicule non lolicons and non weebs until the world becomes one huge sunflower, and Yuuka manifests as the one true god.

>>3864

I hope you're well. You sound manic and kind of cynic, en emotional state I fully empathize with.

Yesterday I lucid dreamed I was a vampire and thought that I was sort of overpowered. I could fly and turn into a bat.

>>3867

Hmm if BO said you're "through" shouldn't you be unable to suicide?

>>3870

>Hmm if BO said you're "through" shouldn't you be unable to suicide?

He said that your mind will not allow it but that doesn't make any sense. I understand it rather in the sense that your mind can't die, it can't allow you to literally end your existence because it becomes eternal and even if you destroy your physical body, it will just be a transition from one state to another. And even after that I'm sure you can just pop right back into the physical if you want to. I expect it to be a mere transition into my energy body and into the astral, or a quantum state of existence.

>>3871

It seems like that person wasn't advanced enough and got protected by either their higher self, alissa or whateverthefuck. It's good that it didn't work, because I think they even didn't really want to do it. If they were serious, they wouldn't stop after trying one single method for a couple of times and then just giving up.

>>3868

>I will now abuse this to ridicule non lolicons and non weebs until the world becomes one huge sunflower, and Yuuka manifests as the one true god.

What's wrong with not being a lolicon or weeb? Why do you need Yuuka as the one true god? What about a world where everyone can like and be whatever they want and everyone is their own god? That's what a free world based on chaos really would look like.

>>3873

>What about a world where everyone can like and be whatever they want and everyone is their own god? That's what a free world based on chaos really would look like

Or maybe these values will guarantee that you can do what you want and be who you want? Maybe weebism and lolicon are just human ways of understanding what Gensokyo stands for in the modern world? Just an idea ;^)

Isn't it strange that a solar eclipse looks what might be a zero particle? When I found out a solar ecplise is about to happen I looked it up and found this pic. Since the first vamp thread the zero particle has kinda become like a symbol for immortality for me even more so than an actual particle, since even particles and waves are just a illusory symbol. I never cared about astrology or constellations or the meaning of planets but this here just got my attention.

In the occult/spiritual field the sun is often seen as a symbol for consciousness, but also God, Will, the Source, Life, life giver, Spirit, Fire, the Male and so on. BO said the sun is something you can't look at, which pretty much applies to consciousness or god.

The moon is a symbol for Subconsciousness, but also Psyche, the Astral, Magic, Soul, Water, the Female…

What I think the mind is is the mediator between the two, the bridge between soul and spirit, consciousness and unconciousness and with enough spiritual work the bridge is finished and the two are united with the help of the third, the solar eclipse/zero particle is attained.

Now all of what we perceive is created by the mind inside of the mind, so there is not actually "outside" or anything external even if we perceive it that way, so it's enough to recognize the sun and the moon for merely these symbols, reflections of certain parts of ourselves. When the solar ecplise happens the two merge into one (the divine marriage) which creates this symbol of the zero particle. It looks like the subconsciousness and pretty much everything is now inside the consciousness, with the consciousness creating a ring around it and containing it within itself instead of being seperate from it. Also usually consciousness is seen to be at the core of things, inside the soul which is inside the body. Consciousness is usually depicted animating everything from within, but now we get a picture of it being outside instead and containing everything within itself. I only noticed this now and it's an interesting and accurate depiction of immortality imo and how real individuated immortals are as gods unto themselves. Immortal because their individuality, their psyche, their values and their entire world is contained within them, encased by unbreakable consciousness like being in an unbreakable astral body. They are an ergregore unto themselves and truely independend. They cannot dissolve anymore as a being as normal mortals do because for normal mortals the consciousness is inside and everything else is outside, unprotected and prone to change. Immortals turn themselves "inside-out".

And because the immortal realizes they are not inside of anything but everything is inside of them, they are quite literally "the only god there is" and can easily navigate or leave this human matrix which they recognize as nothing more than a videogame inside of their mind, go into all the other videogames existing or creating entire videogames and inhabit themselves as they please, having any body and gender they like etc etc. They are not trapped by illusions anymore and yet they can partake of them as much as they like.

I think that's some pretty cool symbolism with the solar eclipse and I felt like coming back to leave this post for anyone who might get something out of it.

>>4040

>>4038

Yeah, you're both talking about the divine marriage. The ultimate attainment of every spiritual path. Apotheosis.

It's reflected everywhere in the material realm. From eclipses to sexuality. And of course in media.

It always felt funny to me how the Sun and the Moon, perfectly sized in order to create eclipses, are like a giant easter egg telling us the secret to transcend this reality. Like a signal somebody inserted in your feverish coma dream in order to give you the key to escape.

>>4040

I'm not educated on Hatha Yoga but it wouldn't surprise me if this concept is contained there. A lot of different seeming paths but they lead to the same truth. I'm not posting anything too revolutionairy either, it's just interesting because of the (visual) connection to the zero particle. Someone posted somewhere else here "truth always changes" but that's exactly not the case. Truth is the one thing that never changes. The path to Truth changes, and all manifestations, illusions, oppinions, worldviews and creations change. If it changes or dissapears then it's not the Truth.

>>4041

True. The longer you are on the path the more you see it reflected everywhere. You are blind to it all if you are just a mundane. A lot of things are also catered to your personal path and your personal understanding, therefore it's pointless to write about them for other will not understand or relate and you will just seem like a roleplaying schizoid fool.

>Like a signal somebody inserted in your feverish coma dream in order to give you the key to escape

It would be absolutely shocking (not really) if that somebody was nobody else than yourself…or your higher self.

Illustrating my post with unrelated image of Remilia

>>4043

For a while I didn't really know what the mind is supposed to be, so I assumed it is the same as the Spirit or Consciousness. Only recently it dawned unto me that the mind is actually something like Kreiter describes as the Holy Ghost. Thus my ignorance seemed to be lifted. I also understood better what the Archon is. And yes I have read that book and I came up with my own excercise based on his stuff to help beginners realize how reality works, to do a simulation on what it means to be inside the matrix overlay or to be outside of it and in the "real" reality.

I call it the "Room of the Immortal". Just sit or lie down comfortable and relax. Imagine your body is dead and gone and also your mundane human character, name, your mundane goals, troubles and all that stuff. Leave this world and your character in it behind. You are now already simulating what it means to be outside the matrix overlay as your true mind. You left your mortal npc-character behind in the matrix. Since you have left the matrix behind and not entered any other world you are just awareness floating in the "grey zone", in the nothingness being nothing. Now imagine a comfy room around you, be inside that room. You can create the room as perfect as you like and in your favourite style, it should be small and simple enough so you can visualize it easily and fairly stable. Now as easy as that you have created your own Logos, your own world outside of the matrix in eternity being your true immortal self. Your immortal self is in your immortal room. Imagine yourself having any body you like and then touch a wall of your room with your hand. Really try to get the feeling in your imaginary hand of touching a wall, feel the pressure and the texture of the wall as real as possible.

Now get back to your physical body and "awaken" in your default physical matrix reality of you think is the "real world" and touch the physical wall of the room you are in with your physical hand. Compare the difference between the touch in the room of the immortal and the room in the matrix. What seems more real, more solid? Keep in mind that there is absolutely no difference between both rooms, except the physical room in the matrix is created by the Archon/Fake Mind and the room of the immortal is created by the Holy Ghost/Real mind. Both rooms are just an illusory construct inside mind created by mind. Imagine yourself in your fantasy room again and remember that all fantasy is just as real as what you think is the physical. You are again outside the matrix in your own immortal world, being immortal. Now focus on your physical room. You are again your npc character inside of the matrix. You can switch between the two at the speed of one single tought. If your physical room and the touch of the physical wall seems more real to you than what you visualize, it only shows how unenlightened you are yet and how strong your Archon mind is compared to your real mind. The Archon, also called the Demiurge, the foreign installation, Agent Smith, Satan, the Devil goes all out to create this world and keep you inside and it does a good job by default. That's why it seems so real and solid, because your Archon mind really is good at it. What you have to do is to weaken that mind and that reality and let your Holy Ghost work it's ass off even more to overcome the Archon mind and get out of this created matrix. For some the Archon is the ultimate evil endboss demon that possesses you, for others it's just your ignorance and nothing more. Either way, know that your Room of the Immortal is just as real as this matrix overlay, and by strenghtening your real mind and uniting your consciousness and subconsciousness you can overcome the Archon and create your own worlds that are even more real than anything in the matrix overlay (overlay because it's just a shitty overlay over the actual reality). The Archon mind is imperfect and so is it's creation, rules by cycles, change, degeneration and death. The holy Ghost can create perfect worlds free from death and with all the beauty, goodness and love you can imagine without any of the archonic shittines, unless you will it to be there on purpose.

Well that's the exercise, still in it's beta or even alpha state. Even without all the explanation and dogma in it it should do a good job of giving you a taste of your true mind and how it can be as an immortal in your own place. It also should do a good job in showing how weak you are yet (lol) when you create your own room and touch the walls with your astral hands.

>>4052

>Are we truly connected by the vampire egregore I wonder?

I wonder indeed. Well…if it makes sense to you with everything you have learned about reality and immortals so far.

>I think that was me.

Was it also you who wrote of himself as a "vampire in waiting" when asking about the effect of the dropping of the human energy levels?

>>4055

Those are different layers. Vampires are in duality on the "evil" layer while succubus are on the outermost chaotic meta layer. Vampires count as a kind of angel, which implies ethereal, resistant to cultural changes and a tendency towards genocide to maintain society according to their values. It's a gradual scale where what is called an angel has white, or white and black magic, while vampires usually have more of the red and black.

What is called a succubus in this context refers to an entity on the astral only, often with different forms or avatars representing different qualities.

Well isn't that funny? The Vampire Diaries spin-off Legacies decided to do a Star Wars parody episode, aired last night.

They even got the two moons from 1Q84 by Haruki Murakami, with the smaller green one right there. The same thing which appeared in Dubai earlier this year irl.

>>4134

Just what indeed could be the meaning of this?

>>4134

>appeared in Dubai earlier this year irl

Hold on. What?

>>4139

Do you know if Lyrans want to get together with Vampires/Undeads/Retards who took the vampire spell and made it according to you? Or do they only look for humans to breed and mix with?

If I install Lyranet for myself, will I then be able to get a Lyran gf early? Assuming they want to get together with vampires. Will I be able to talk to her only through telepathy so that nobody from my family will understand her and I have to explain everything back and forth when she meets them?

Does anyone here aside from the BO install the Lyranet, or at least tried it?

>>4140

I know one other person who installed lyranet. I would have said two, but the second person was possibly possessed by a djinneyeh. Some kind of fuckery has been going on, so I had to draw the conclusion it was an actually this entity who installed the astral version of lyranet for non-physicals, then gave feedback while pretending to be the person. (I hope it's ok for me to say, the person who installed it is the anon behind the Akasha Lounge >>3113 )

About the lyrans and vampires I had this dream which seemed to indicate the lyrans and "luciferans", the new age word for vampires, are the same originally. I can't be bothered to retype this so here's a screencap.

>If I install Lyranet for myself, will I then be able to get a Lyran gf early? Assuming they want to get together with vampires. Will I be able to talk to her only through telepathy so that nobody from my family will understand her and I have to explain everything back and forth when she meets them?

If you manage to install it to functional level, you can talk to them and take part in their VR community, which is a requirement if you want to socialize with them. The rest you will have to take from there.

If they can talk to people or not is a matter of personal skill, some can use real time translator modules - if they care. It's more likely they will use "intrusive telepathy" to talk to mundanes rather than trying to speak words, their mouths aren't made for humans sounds.

>>4141

Yeah the Lounge guy seemed to have good astral skills, no wonder he could do it. I didn't know he was still active though. I guess everyone hangs out on Discord these days…

>their mouths aren't made for humans sounds.

It would be pretty awesome if they just went all "meow" and "purr" on you like actual cats. At that point they might as well just normally talk to earth cats which would also be kinda cool.

Lyranet kinda sketches me out, all that VR nanochip stuff…especially since I have yet to see an actual ship or Lyran. But then again a real immortal vampire should be immune against all manipulations and in control anyway so maybe it's just my inner npc that has doubts about it. In order to install it, I just stare at the red dot in the sigil for a while and then expand it and that's it, or something like that?

>>4142

"Active focus" on the circle until you get what may feel like an emotional feedback. It helps to have the intent to accept the lyrans and a neutral mindset apart from this. When you see the red dot, pull it like you would to increase the size of an image on a touch screen, and the install will activate.

It's possible nothing will happen after that for a while, or it happens all at once. They'll notice someone connected using the installer and pick out the modules you can handle. It can differ between individuals.

To explain it in human terms, it's like you installed MS-DOS, then you need drivers and even hardware, starting with keyboard, mouse, disc drives and so on. You can still connect with DOS but it'll be very limited if you don't have the graphical interface for example.

Once you have enough hardware (modules) and programs you will be able to launch the system the way it's meant to look. One thing to note is that you need the lyranet browser if you want to reach beyond the very nearest area. Lyranet per defeault only adds you to a small group of members closest to your location. There's a firewall and a scanner to prevent harmful code from spreading which you need to pass over to connect to the mainnet. There is no organized way to receive the browser on your own, you have to ask someone to do a private file transfer of the installer. Once you have access, you can use education programs and access archives on the mainnet.

For example there is the toolbox and the weaponcrate, two archives which come with a manifestation module. It you practice with this you will be able to manifest anything from those archives into physical reality.

We tried it and at first try were able to briefly see and feel different tools and weapons. By feel I mean the full experience of holding them in your hand, complete with weight.

I adapted the method to my Sakuya character and was able to learn how to manifest knife edges. Doing full manifestation is difficult, but if you only do the edge it does the job anyway.

I've tried it by pressing the point of the knife against my finger and the pain is real and instant. I also tested this with two nymphs (spirits), showed them how to do it and told them to test it by pressing the knife against my finger. The pain made me pull my hand back instinctively even if the knife wasn't visible.

This has many possibilities; imagine an army of poltergeists who can actually do physical harm…

Hmm…

https://www.tvfanatic.com/2021/06/legacies-boss-responds-to-shortened-third-season/

It's unfortunate, but Legacies Season 3 is ending earlier than planned.

With The CW recently announcing that Legacies Season 3 will wrap June 24, it means that Legacies Season 3 Episode 16 will now serve as the season finale.

Twenty episodes were written, but showrunner Brett Matthews is opening up about the temporary finale and how it will be worthwhile.

Why though, they first extended it to 20 from 12, then suddenly ending it after the Star Wars episode.

For those who where present during meguca days, there are some things which can be put into context by adding later received information.

The Babylonian channelling

https://pastebin.com/kd6RrdSC

gave names to previous time periods as following:

Each human civilization period is world wide, it does not "count" on a scale smaller than this.

Period

1: Ra

2: N/A

3: Moloch

4: Illuminati

5: Babylon

6: Atlantis

7: Current civilization, let's call this Roman/Hellenic

By taking the common claim that each human civilization cycle being 26k years into account, and the claim that we are currently at the very end of the last cycle (pic), we can count the number of years back to each period.

7 x 26000 = 182000

This matches the claim that the first vampire (sometimes called Cain) is around 180k years old. He would indeed have lived during the initial stages of period 1. This also corresponds with Cain being one of the first humans named in the Old Testament/Torah.

The Matriarch was said to be 70k years old, which, if we count each period as 26k years, places her birth in the beginning of Babylon period.

The "daft lady" was said to be the initial disciple of Cain and 130k years old.

130000 / 26000 = 5

This places her birth exactly at the end of the mystery period 2, and the beginning of period 3, Moloch.

The group called The Court Ladies are said to be around 20k - 35k years old, placing their birth in high Atlantean to early Hellenic period, while The Princess is 40k years old, making her an Atlantean nobility.

It's been further indicated that Artillery Mage, the wizard of The Library is the only survivor of the previous earth, which also consists of 7 periods. This would mean his group is the collected knowledge and culture of the past planet earth.

>>4297

This is actually interesting, but earlier you said the Matriarch was 120k years old.

Would the first Vampire called Cain be the same Cain/Quain from the Liber Falxifer?

What you said in the succubus thread, isn't it the same for vampires? When your core unites with your body and you become projected onto the human layer. The wednesday exercise should be working for vampires too but instead of visiting the succubus world we can try to visit any other world? For me it would be cool to at least learn to dive into the etheric layer and walk/fly the earth while being invisible to humans. This seems to correspond to the ability of turning to mist.

>It's been further indicated that Artillery Mage, the wizard of The Library is the only survivor of the previous earth

How come he was the only one? Had they not something like magic and vampirism?

>>4304

>we did the spear session

Where you here for the session where we also did the fancy box? This sigil was used for it, (meant to be round but it was drawn on the astral so this is just a quick sketch) it's done by getting the "fancy box" which represents our universe and moving your physical layer body into it using this sigil. That way you "own" a copy of the universe and your body rests in it, giving your full control.

If you didn't do this one, it's better to start there. Will get back for the rest in a bit.

>>4305

>Where you here for the session where we also did the fancy box?

I wasn't, but I saw a box being mentioned on shamik. Did you and others take the box and placed your bodies inside? What I don't understand is whether that gives you full control in this universe where we all are in or if you get into a seperate copy of the same universe where you will be completely alone? The other box where everyone is a lesbian 12 year old is also kinda interesting. It would be nice if you could be in both or travel freely between them and try out what you like until you find what works best.

>>4306

>Does it matter?

I don't know but it probably does, since if we are in different timeles events, outcomes and maybe even magic can be different for us.

>It's 99% in your mind

Yes, and if the guy switched without changing his mind it proves that where there is a will, there is a way. If it's all in your mind means with enough control and the right mindset everything is possible. I think with a balanced/hermaphroditic mind it would be much easier to be in control of both bodies. So far thanks for the explanation.

>>4319

>Did you and others take the box and placed your bodies inside? What I don't understand is whether that gives you full control in this universe where we all are in or if you get into a seperate copy of the same universe where you will be completely alone?

The concepts normally used don't work once you start working with them. What I'll say here may not seem to make sense, but I'll relate it to some things to at least explain my view.

The universe, I sometimes spell it Uni-verse to make a point, only refers to small particles and inner matter. Normally people think of space and things you can see when looking at the night sky. Those are galaxies. Maybe if we call it macro-cosmos and micro-cosmos it will be easier to explain. The universe is the micro-cosmos, while galaxies are the macro-cosmos.

I spelled it as Uni-verse to imply that it's a verse, a sentence, and there's only one. Like a code of conduct you all agree on, and that is only one, hence uni(one) and verse(statement). There are many different universes, and they look differently, but it seems common that they look like containers. Our universe is a "fancy box", the djinn universe is an oil lamp. The skinwalkers have a strange black device that gives off the same feel that the painting Isle of the dead.

There should be copies of both the fancy box and the black glossy box in the study of the sunflower temple.

Boxes contain the "lore" of the universe it represents. What beings there are, what flora and fauna, how they live. When you enter one or use one to interact with other beings, it restricts your culture, manifestation and conduct to the lore of the universe in use. Being in close contact with the universe means being well synced with this universe of your choice. If you can have multiple bodies (if you have the ability) you can join multiple universes.

Galaxies on the other hand are large bulky things, and they're bigger than universes. In reference to some mythological beings, Tritons are a universe in themselves, every one of them is a universe, they apply the base code but are all different. Their device looks like an asian hat. The Empusa from Greek mythology is the size of a galaxy. They're said to seduce men and suck out their energy. You can buy bindings for them on CH. It works because they chose to follow this format to interact with humans, they aren't mindless monsters. But they are galaxies, so they have a black hole in the center and are enormous. If you were to fight one, they could suck out your life force instantly, because it's you vs a galaxy.

>The other box where everyone is a lesbian 12 year old is also kinda interesting. It would be nice if you could be in both or travel freely between them and try out what you like until you find what works best.

That is possible, explained above.

I'm going to put this post here because I expect the group of anons interested in this thread are more likely to have the skill and interest for this. It's about manifestation.

I won't start posting some long series of posts if there is no interest, so I'll just ask and wait for reply. Does anyone want to work with learning to use "the remote", originally based on what grey aliens use, but adapted to us earthlings, to manifest your own personal flying saucer?

It's not going to be easy, and it's not something you can just follow a manual for and it works. But it overlaps with the dimension skipping and teleportation methods already talked of here. It may be another avenue to achieving this skill, in line with the Sunflower method of using whatever can work, no matter what it is.

>>4357 here

>>4349

>personal flying saucer

is there a way to get some spirit to do this for me, or as the name implies, has to be done by the one who's gonna use it?

would it be a UFO that can materialize then take the person in and dematerialize? (taking the person to the etheric/astral plane?)

would it be safe to post about it here?

>>4370

>is there a way to get some spirit to do this for me, or as the name implies, has to be done by the one who's gonna use it?

It is constructed by you and used by you, or it won't be under your control.

>would it be a UFO that can materialize then take the person in and dematerialize? (taking the person to the etheric/astral plane?)

This is a matter of concepts. The saucer (it is not an unidentified object to you) per default is physical but it's not necessarily our physical. It will appear visually in some way, and to the user it will appear as real. Moving to the astral is not a simple task and is not a function in the suggested saucer.

>would it be safe to post about it here?

Why not?

TL:DR

The sigil will direct you to an information package. Open it to begin the process of creating the remote. It may result in an unpleasant dream the following night because the process is effective, not pleasant. You then design the remote in the way you want it, such as adding a screen and controls.

Access the blacknet cloud and look for the saucer instructions on there. You will probably also need to install a chaos drive. The one which looks like a minidisc is recommended for this.

That's all. If you can do that much on your own, we can start talking about how to actually use the saucers.