/sunflower/ - Sunflower

Thank you. I visited, met some interesting and some less interesting people.

Hello Again /sunflower/, I hope my favorite group is ready to celebrate the going of the old year, and the coming of the new year. We are organizing a special New Years party in the Akasha Lounge and I want as many of you to connect as you can. The Akasha Lounge started as my own private place to go to clear my thoughts and make sense of everything. Thanks to the Sunflower group it has become a much stronger force and now has actual clientel. I love so much getting the opportunity to be a part of this project, as well as serving and meeting those of you who stop by.

I invite you all to directly connect to the New Years Event, through the normal means that you prefer, or for a stronger connection and perhaps more vivid experience, I have set up a direct link using the song " Moanin' " by Art Blakely; which can be found here: https://youtu.be/Cv9NSR-2DwM

The event will be accessible until Jan 1st 2021. If you have any questions, comments or concerns let us know. Once again, congratulations on a very successful year Sunflower Group.

>>3156

I did not mention this before, because it was an ongoing sequence of events, but I may share something now. You may have seen my avatar visiting the lounge. It's actually a past life persona but I'll just go for "avatar" for simplicity. It's the woman with the red dress and somewhat crude germanic or slavic accent.

During my early visits I met three dudes who seemed more interesting than the rest so I sat down by their table. At least one of them appeared rather old, the other two younger. Well dressed. They did not feel human, one of them admitted to being a vampire, but said it in such a way that it may or may not have been irony. I was given a card before they left. The card contained an address and invitation.

Finding the location was not extremely hard, at least not for me, and entering was also not hard, but possibly impossible under normal circumstances. The location was a castle on a high cliff, and there was no door. Entering was only possible for someone who could fly and pass through solid rock. I shall not reveal too many details, but some more can be said.

The location is one of power, and it is a very dangerous place to stay. Day and night passes at this location in sync with your own time. Meals are served in a public hall, and there are chances of meeting important figures. The catch? By midnight the castle turns into a battleground, the corridors turn into slaughterhouses ruled by "level 80" monsters. It is not a place for any regular traveller to enter, or play in. Exiting after entering is also a difficult matter. Many go there too early and get stuck in a reincarnation loop, losing their memories and being killed again every night, respawning in the basement every morning, having learned close to nothing. The effect of this for an astral traveller is not known to me, but I would not gamble.

>>3157

I do remember you indeed, you were my first "clear"(for lack of a better term) visitor. I was expecting you to post something sooner, had almost thought it may have only been a trick of my imagination. I know where you are speaking about. You were looking for a way to get stronger/more experienced. "And fast" i think being your specific request. If you were directed to the hunting grounds, and furthermore if you entered, its because your own strength and clarity of will allowed it and/or required it. I do hope that you found some good use in it though.

>>3160

I found an ally and attended an important meeting, but I did not take part in the fighting. No one wanted me to take part, it seems. It appears my past combat experience (from WW1 among other) meant they would rather bribe me to stay away from the battles. The game operates at different levels, and I was just recently able to move out again safely. The progress has to be finished to a certain step.

>>3161

Strength comes in many forms, the space you were in is one which exists to further the progress of the spirit, by more aggressive means at the direct consent of the individual spirit in question, it assures all who enter recieve only what they are willing to also risk, and risk no more than they wish. A number of sages and shaman have found permanance their, guiding those who come, instructing those who ask. I either refer to them as the Sages or the Elders. They likely want you to pursue strength which comes from wisdom and insight instead of that which comes from battle. I would listen to them and ask questions. Think of them collectively as a library, the catch is you have to know what book youre looking for, and what questions to ask.

>>3162

>sages and shaman

This is not how the place manifests to me. Maybe it appears differently to different people, or open different areas to different people. To me it was more like meeting with the mafia.

What can you tell me about this place?

>They likely want you to pursue strength which comes from wisdom and insight instead of that which comes from battle.

I was shown how my avatar measured against the other visitors and why they would rather have her not participate: if those are level 80s roaming the corridors, she is level 3200. This still is not on par with the owners of the castle, but enough to cause problems with imbalance for anyone else. The return for my participation in the skirmishes would also be minuscule. It feels like my battle is with the castle itself. I can feel its weight around me, perhaps it has an effect similar to altitude training or wearing a weighted vest.

>>3165

Very interesting hearing your experience, Until now, I haven't been able to compare the site with anyone. Though I was introduced several years back and first I think what should be understood is that this place will at times seem to be almost more conscious of your 'greater self' and who You are, than you are consciously aware. And it uses this ability to offer a reflection of our needs, wants, abilities, fears, but in such a way that you still have to put in work/effort into seeing it, or as I put earlier, knowing what questions need to be asked. It is all very abstract and I could use a footnote on every other word without explaining it clearly.

As per its origin, that is foggy. I understand it to be an "Archetypal Institution" something that has been divinely manifested from the collective will of the greatest initiates of each age.

Regarding the appearance of the sages, I will first say again, I use sage as a word for "he who knows" its not necessarily some stereotype of a old daoist, just the resident guides. My best guess as to why they appeared as mafia types is they probably knew you would be more willing to listen to that type of authority figure. As I said, many aspects of the space work as a mirror.

Finally, I assure you in the hunting grounds there are no shortage of powerful 'enemies' once that part of your training or game begins, I cannot comment as to what they are showing or teaching you, only that you can be assured that if you have arrived then they've agreed to train you.

I hope this wasnt too confusing. I would love to continue this chat over any questions and experiences you have both here or in the Lounge anytime you feel free.

*Growth in the sense of the spirit is an illusion, there is no more room to grow, only more to be realized, and our nature to be understood.* -This was projected to me as I was typing this. Must be for you.

>>3166

>Regarding the appearance of the sages, I will first say again, I use sage as a word for "he who knows" its not necessarily some stereotype of a old daoist, just the resident guides. My best guess as to why they appeared as mafia types is they probably knew you would be more willing to listen to that type of authority figure.

Possibly, now that you say it.

>Finally, I assure you in the hunting grounds there are no shortage of powerful 'enemies' once that part of your training or game begins, I cannot comment as to what they are showing or teaching you, only that you can be assured that if you have arrived then they've agreed to train you.

The "level" comparison was made with reference to my ally in there, who would match up to level 70, among the stronger but still having to run from the 80s. I also had two "maids" come along, they did so out of their own decision. I don't know how they were able to get in, but they were. They would be described as "irrelevant" level in the corridor skirmishes, 30 -40. They can stay because they can hide in my room when things get too tough.

I get a feeling this measurement is in direct combat ability, in which case it may make sense. This is the only thing measured in a game setting. A complete retard standing in the open with no intentional tactical thinking, going only by experience. This would make sense as my past life avatar spent the entire WW1 on the astral, possessing soldiers day after day to learn close combat. This field is saturated, there is really nothing more to see for me in there. I can access those skills and memories if I go deeper in my mind.

I use the game terminology because it's what lies closest in understanding. Having written this, and seen your received message, I think I am able to spot an area of weakness or potential at the macro level. It would be necessary to completely give up the combat setting and mindset, even that of a high level general is not enough. The word may be "sustainability."

To end with, how do someone reach levels beyond 80 if that is the max? Some games contain a "rebirth" option, where a character can start over from level 1 while maintaining their skills and equipment, to improve them more. By the first rebirth it may pose a temporary setback from losing the "physical" strength, but at one point the original "level" measurement stops having meaning. This may be transferred to be applied on human reincarnation as well as a template for understanding. The 1 -80 levels would end up simply being a fluctuation of little notice.

The 3200 number may be the highest noticable number of "rebirths" measurable, after which it turns into a cycle. This sounds close enough now after writing it down phrased like this.

My maids (I don't get involved with what they do) may be a few rebirths into the this system, having skills beyond what can be measured using this thinking.

>>3200

Well, I could venture a few guesses, and I certinly hope it implies what I think it does, although I feel it best to hold my tongue at this time until I can investigate further. Can you explain a bit more how you noticed the rise of energy, how it feels or is percieved. Anything that can help me line up the situation better would be appreciated.

A part of me is ever-present in the lounge though I have not connected fully in a while these last few days, in order to focus on some of my other works/studies.. I will focus on it now and get back to you as I can. If this has in anyway been an unpleasant experience, please excuse me.

>>3201

>Can you explain a bit more how you noticed the rise of energy, how it feels or is percieved

It's conceptually a bit hard because there is no standardized terminology for it, but I'll try. When creating my own astral locations, I noticed a situation as follows: What I created was bright, vivid and rich in experiences, but when other people and spirits interacted with the places, their perception played part in forming the general concept of what the places are like. This because social environments rely on its participants. The result of this is that it often comes down to the most rudimentary elements for the majority of visitors. It's like making great plans for something, and in your visualizations it's a great success and full of color. Then when the event or situation is made real, it ends up just above mediocre, because no one has the exact same understanding you have, and some see things in ways you had no way to predict from your own perspective.

As an example, this lead to the first private area of my astral mansion, which I created to be a large open solution space with a sleeping area, a kitchen and a relaxing space, turned into a rather small room with a bed along one wall and some very basic functionality in the other parts of the same room, once other beings started interacting with it. Over time I learned how to correct this by not using abstract human ideas of "freedom" created by a large space, and instead just building the functionality. On the contrary, it works fine to include 20 bedrooms in a space where only one would fit in a regular human house, because "space" is just a concept. Include the full functionality of the room, and you can make it as narrow as an envelope, and the person staying there will still experience a spacy bedroom with all conveniences present.

If it's well made however, and some kind of high energy activity is taking place, from the outside you may see this as a power rising out of an envelope, and it looks illogical from human eyes. It means the functionality is there, and it's doing something really well.

>f this has in anyway been an unpleasant experience, please excuse me.

It was not. Rather is seems that what you created started influencing people in bordering areas, like small imageboards, putting ideas in their heads and creating reactions. Hence the thread I saw.

By the first few visits the lounge was very large and elaborate, but it's possible it's changing as a result of the understandings brought by visitors, into something where the "unimportant" design details are being worn off, leaving only the strong and important parts.

>>3203

>It's conceptually a bit hard because there is no standardized terminology for it, but I'll try

You did just fine, luckily when dealing with these things over a period of time, people like you and I develop a way of 'seeing the idea behind the words' as it were. Lacking the correct words or no, one who knows, knows.

What you say is interesting to me, because it confirms a couple concepts that I have been working with myself. In terms of the affect of personal energetic 'bias' (for lack of a better term) on astral/nonphysical spaces.

As per your last response in particular, I am very excited, and I thank you for your feedback. The Lounge may be well on her way to becoming what she was intended for. It could be unprecedented, and I am glad to have recieved and served great clientel such as yourself. Come meet me at my booth, I would like to share with you a special liquor I have been trying to get right. As you surely know, food and drink can be tricky to get right. And otherwise needless in the astral… though I think I've just about nailed it on the head as far as luxury akashic liquor goes. Would be honored if you'd offer feedback.

>>3207

>Come meet me at my booth, I would like to share with you a special liquor I have been trying to get right. As you surely know, food and drink can be tricky to get right. And otherwise needless in the astral… though I think I've just about nailed it on the head as far as luxury akashic liquor goes. Would be honored if you'd offer feedback.

Taste can be hard to transfer in a meaningful way, maybe because of personal concepts, and I'm not perhaps a good taste reviewer of anything. In everyday life I care more about the texture and nutritients than the actual taste of food, as long as it isn't too strong. I tried the liquor offered or rather my avatar the 1200s witch me, you may call her Cuddlesworth, after her London street name, assumed later. The energy is initially strong and clear and the taste resembles whiskey, energy wise it feels refined and has a hint of resin. The energy then changes into something more like egg toddy and the taste turns softer and "spongier", and this is what remains as the after effect. Sort of like an egg with a amber in the middle.

I left two glasses of wine for you to try. One is a red wine, I simply cally it Fay wine, it has a rather strong effect and works well to offer participants in group sessions or during channelling. This was made by a past life me. The other glass is white wine, and may appear to have no taste at all to some people. This wine will adapt to your own preference, it's a "fun" artifact with no use beyond this. Both glasses can be understood as eternally refilling magical artifacts, and can be copied and shared freely.

>>3360

Wow, you are progressing rapidly. Something tells me you may have done this before haha. Im interested to learn what they have you training and by which method if you'd be willing to share. My recent pursuits are less combat centered and more so geared towards strategy and research, hence my latest silent streak. Though I always have a piece of of me in the Lounge. It's become very comforting sensing the gentle transfer of energy going on there, with the clientele coming and going.

>so I've sent another avatar to the lounge instead to socialize.

The woman with the emerald colored dress and dark auburn hair, if I'm not mistaken? I noticed her the last time I checked in. Something similar to pic related.

>>3363

>It may be confusing but

Don't even worry about it bud, You havent lost me once yet. I actually really enjoy speaking with you as you're one of the few people who I can discuss these more abstract practices and experiences with, without feeling the conversation slowly slipping into a schizo-affective fever dream. I always feel that we are well understood between the two of us.

I must say, I am envious of your ability to connect and realize your past incarnations with such detail. I have received a few vivid memories here or there, or intuitively picked up information. Though admittedly I haven't put any serious effort into it still. Is there any specific advice you can give for opening that connection? Or at the very least to become more aware of them.

If the info I have heard on the "Lovecraftian" dimension is all so tiring to even process that I can only imagine staying there or functioning in that space for any type of period. I have visited only twice, very briefly. What kept me from delving into it was not so much the entities to be found there but just the complete lack of orientation I had. It was like physics had evolved from a whole different set of rules than our universe has. In hindsight, if I were to do it again, my first step would have to be a 'temporal grounding spell' for lack of a better term. Somewhat like calibrating my concious awareness in order to be able to smoothly function those unique mechanics through the duration of my stay, if it makes sense in so many words.

>but I found the idea of huge tentacle monsters in the form of little girls sneaking into the human world really funny.

This actually cracked me up pretty good as well. I was reminded of the given Shoggoth description used in "At The Mountains of Madness";

>"It was a terrible, indescribable thing vaster than any subway train—a shapeless congeries of protoplasmic bubbles, faintly self-luminous, and with myriads of temporary eyes forming and un-forming as pustules of greenish light all over the tunnel-filling front that bore down upon us, crushing the frantic penguins and slithering over the glistening floor that it and its kind had swept so evilly free of all litter."

>…but loli

We've actually made a device for a specific methodology of uncovering past lives. See pic.

Don't expect to remember things at first attempt, if you are able to enter caves and see symbolics of the lifetime, you are at a good start.

The 2nd pic was used to illustrate this for a specific case but it should be relevant here too.

Working with tulpas is the main exercise to handle this unlocking, something the tulpamancers on /x/ are sadly unaware of.

See

https://www.tulpa.info/

for general basics of this. In short, past life minds are natural tulpas, your current mind is also a tulpa. One first "homework exercise" is to create a tulpa of a person you see as a role model, then move your awareness to that tulpa. Then look back at yourself to gain a better understanding of your current you. Move back to yourself and then delete the tulpa you created. When you find your past lives, you can access them in the same way. Simply apply the same method of moving to the past life like you did with the practice tulpa and you will gradually have access to all memories of that life, with exceptions for things which may be beyond your current awareness level. This can however be a lot if you were a competent occultist in the past, or did things in strong conflict with current world values.

(Which is true in my case, most of my past lives were very violent, the disconnect between "being offended -> killing them" rarely existed in the past, the kind of "restraint by willpower" people exercise today is highly unnatural. It's a fact that as much as 20% of the population was executed for violent crimes in the past centuries. This would remove the undesired genetics and keep humanity pure. Today with a focus on suppressing violent tendencies over the past 120 years, rather than letting them play out and removing them from the gene pool, violent uncontrollable tendencies are kept, resulting in the general population being tainted with impulsiveness in all areas of life. You can see for yourself what this has lead to, human decorum is at an all time low. If you want to fix humanity, stop suppressing human nature!)

>>3365

A lot of great info here, I appreciate it alot. Just finished reading through the main articles in the page you linked. If I understand correctly, all our various selves are tulpas in a sense and we a tulpa to our other selves. Not necessarily past or future selves, (although due to our linear perception of time it may make sense that our past selves would be more easy percievable.) Just tulpas in the sense that we all share one higher mind. So by uncovering details about various incarnations we can begin to conciously 'fill in the blanks' of these pre-existant forms. So in theory it should actually be easier than creating a tulpa from scratch as the tulpa doesnt have to be created so much as it needs to be 'realized' what is already there?

I will be beginning with the Elysian Fields session tonight and start from there.

A sigil I have created for easier access to the Lounge.

As promised during the spear session I'll check out your lounge later today, but before that/meanwhile…can you tell me how to install music to my astral place? Is there any special technique to it? There is a track I have always wanted to keep running at my place virtually all the time and your thread brought up the idea in my mind to just put in in my astral house. I'll try with one single track only for starters and later I might add more music to my place.

>>3401

Well for me, I have a really high sensitivity to music and patterns. I can memorize arrangements backward and forward without too much trouble. I use this to my advantage in this case and any songs I want to have stores in the Lounge, I simply play myself. I get into a meditative state, sometimes have the selected piece actually playing so that I can 'feel' more the relationship between the instruments and the notes being played. This is actually why, as I mention in the OP, that my primary avatar is actually divided into "twins". Its a multi focal view point which arose from me using one side to play the piano and the other to play brass in most cases. Even if I dont know the particular instrument that is being used somewhere, so long as I can pay full attention to each and every note with the right intent, the energy of the song will more or less imprint onto the Lounge itself, anytime after that if I wish to hear a song I can simply recall it and it pops right up without effort. Each note as clear to me as if I were wearing earphones.

I can not speak for the experience of my patrons with certainty, but what I have tried to do is with the imprinted music, is program it to 'shuffle through' different tracks so that any guests will theoretically not need any real knowledge of or experience with the music being played.

The most important thing I have found is, intent, intent, intent.

>>3402

>>3404

Thanks for the explanation. I guess I can just let the music play or play it myself while I'm at my place…at least until I manage to let it play permanently without me even being there. Maybe I can leave an avatar there or have a tulpa play it 24/7 but I actually don't like having too much tulpas that drain my energy. An astral artifact may also be an option, like a jukebox or a radio or a mechanical band like in the Dr. Phibes movies. If the bath in the sunflower temple as an atrifact is possible, something that plays music sure is too.

>>3412

>OP, deeply sorry for derailing your thread and spamming off-topic but this was just a special issue. I will stop it now, please forgive.

No worries fren, I have spent the last half hour listening to babymetal because somehow I had never heard it before now. I am not in the least bit upset

>>3419

I am glad that you were able to connect successfully, though I do hope you find your next visit more enjoyable and not so anxious. I am much the same as I don't go out of my way to speak to people unless they come to me or if something about them draws my attention. When I fully connect I usually sit myself in my booth and relax, talk with whoever comes to say hi, though I have a similar problem as you and a lot of people I cant fully see their appearance unless they are well manifested or already familiar to me. Although I can get a sufficient impression from their energy in order to differentiate them from one another. Another note, there is no need to feel so bad or think that anyone will think badly of you there, most beings know how difficult it is for humans to navigate the astral layers and other humans definitely know it. So the very fact that you connected is sign enough that you're deserving to be there. The important thing for improvement and what will impress people the most is perserverance. Be consistant in your practice and there is nothing you cannot master.

"A river cuts through rock not by it's strength, but by it's persistence."

>>3420

>Well you don't have to put that all the way to the door in space several miles outside the island.

I didn't actually intend this so I have no idea what went wrong. I tried to fix it and limit the gravity to the house and underground area. But as I think about it, maybe how you experienced it is a good way to keep unwanted visitors away. After all it's still my home. The door is nowhere near the island, it's a portal that will lead you to a seperate astral pocket. There can be no amount of miles between the island and door, it's only a matter of vibration. But the door is actually completely redundant and useless, I usually just cast my own sigil to be on my island or simply imagine myself being there. The docks may be a good idea tho, I will consider adding them near the viewing platform. If the gravity is still bad and someone should get stuck on my island, feel free to let me know. Until help arrives, enjoy purgatory and amuse yourself with Babymetal to your own liking.

>>3421

>that webm

Yuuka always knows the right thing to say, very inspirational and uplifting.

Don't worry about me, I'll be fine. You know it has been said before that the ancients believe to just let time do it's thing and that you'll get there anyway once you are immortal so even if I'm on the clumsy way I'm not even worried too much (from an earlier vampire thread). Yesterday was the 7th day I did meditation and visualization in my 48 day cycle. As I was visualizing myself in the Lounge I felt a cracking sound inside my face, I think it was somewhere around the third eye. Maybe something is unblocking. Your lounge was pretty cool tho, I used the provided pics to visualize it but then it turned into a space of it's own. It was a good exercise and I'll be sure to come again. Next time I'll come I try out more things and explore it in detail. Of course I would appreciate to know if you eventually see me. You'll recognize me.

>>3422

As with many other things, this may have also been predetermined to a high degree of detail, or at least predicted/projected to play out this way. I learned of Babymetal from "that japanese man Yuta", I don't actually remember them being mentioned anywhere on here. When these aliens started messing about

(see https://pastebin.com/3fKRZKfk) I figured I'd check if they were safe because many public figured were being replaced. Maybe we should start a thread for this topic itself since it's pretty big, but only if anyone cares.

I often throw something together in the most rudimantary manner and then forget about it because I'm busy. This was a good time to fix up a proper artist community instead of having them stay at the inn. Still this is all done in an unfocused "left handed" manner because I rarely have time to care too much. I initially just wanted to be able to save some people from hell by housing them at my island until the issue could be fundamentally solved.

>>3423

> I don't actually remember them being mentioned anywhere

A lot of things have been said during the years, I don't remember most of it myself anymore. I admit this kinda upsets and disturbs me more than it should and I don't know what to think of those aliens and their invasion. But I recognize it as a lesson I must learn as an immortal and get used to seeing all kinds of things happening. You have the secondary souls, and if because of me the main souls are spared hell then that makes me happy, even if they have to live on my island. I know nothing of what kinda of degeneracy they are suffering from or what bad things they did to deserve to be treated like this. This may be my way of giving them back for what they have given to me during the past years, even if they know nothing of it.

>>3422

You have a very good way of seeing things, I'm also of the same opinion. Being impatient does nothing to help us grow faster, we all can only do what we can and trust that its good enough. Leave ourselves open enough to meet our course without resistance.

>As I was visualizing myself in the Lounge I felt a cracking sound inside my face

Yeah sounds like you are well on your way, I had this same experience when I first started working with spirit bodies. The best I can relate it to is like stiff joints, so you may feel small clicks and pops here and there while your body is getting reaccustomed to movement. Look into grounding techniques as well if you haven't already. This will help recharge and balance the energy youre using during practice.

You mentioned your 48 day cycle, that's great! I am on the 10th day of my own 48 day mandala, so we are pretty much making this round together.

>>3428

Good luck on your mandala! I wanted to start fresh on the 1st of the month so that's why I am on my 9th day now. If I had started the same day the idea popped up we might be even on the same day now. But it's still cool we are doing this together like that. I'm doing 4 excercises for 5 minutes each and one for 20 minutes. I also do other random stuff throughout the day.

I kept working on the Babymetal souls for almost 4 hours straight and listened through all 3 albums, taking a short break only in the middle of the second album. That's 48 (just like the mandala lol) songs for me in a row (bonus songs and alt versions included) and all that while I was outside in the forest. I tried my own way of working with them and used the music as a channel. Anyway I was tired after that but still managed to do my meditations, and your lounge was my target again for the visualization.

This time I just visualized myself in the lounge without using sigil or music. It looked the same as last time, very close to the pics itt. Honestly, without the pics I wouldn't see anything. I touched the seats and the walls and stuff for exercise and then got to the bar to talk to you and asked if you could hand me some drink of your choice since I can't really pick one myself. I got poured something into a long glass and it tasted sweet and a little bit like oranges. Since I didn't know how to pay on the astral and I had nothing with me I just paid with a small energy ball and moved on. Later I kept checking my body out in a mirror on a wall I found after walking around the lounge because I noticed it appeared more often in it's normal form now and not in the demon-like form. Then I suddenly lost focus and found myself in oblivion and it was next to impossible to return to the lounge again, no matter how much I focussed on what I did earlier and where I was. I managed to collect myself and sat down at a table, just looking at the bar. I kept thinking that I can't actually see anything and this is just imagination based on the pictures, then I left. Ah and a little while before I asked you at the bar where the german gunslinger is and went there after you showed me, but the convo with her was nonsensical as expected. She asked me what I want and I said "You said I should look for you, it's more like what do you want lol?" after some more nonsense I went away.

Well let me know if you have at least seen something of me. If not it's okay too, no worries. It's just a visualization exercises after all. Sorry to use your lounge for this :P

>>3457

Hahaha I never get tired of the way time works in the astral. From my perspective we had that exchange almost a week ago. The drink I offered you was an Orange Cognac called Grand Marnier. Even IRL I keep a bottle in my cupboard for when I have guests who aren't really big on drinking or want to try something sweeter. There's no doubt you've been in my bar now.

I am glad you are learning so quickly how to listen to your intuition and find ways to make the changes you want. The energy exchange for payment is a perfect example, in most cases from my experience its similar to the more humble gift exhange customs present in places like Japan. But yes, the usual go-to currency is energy. I have had a few times been made interesting trade offers. Say they offer me x service or x item and I give them x amount of credit. It's a good system I find. It ensures nobody feels cheated and there are no bad trades.

If I remember correctly the other day, I had noticed you start to 'fuzz out' after I directed you to who you were looking for, then shortly after you disconnected, and I cant remember if I saw you again. I sat around for a while, played a round of "Moanin" by Art Blakely and then disconnected to get ready for bed. I imagine if you were having a hard time maintaining a clear connection, that could be the reason that the girls words came out as nonsensical. Once we start to lose the focus, our concious minds get almost clingy girlfriend levels of wanting attention, so the concious mind end up trying to push its own ideas onto what we are receiving, which can obviously lead to a messy signal. This is where the practice of meditation comes in handy for learning to quiet the surface mind for longer periods so that our connection to the subtler planes can be clearer.

>>3463

I just had the glorious idea of doing a meditation session with my brother together. I managed to actually get him to meditate and he is doing the same mandala as me with 20 mins visualization each day. Now I always wanted to do this experiment but never had the chance and I tought it would be nice if we could use the lounge for it since I don't know any other place as fitting and cool as the lounge. What I plan to do is to sit next to him in the same room and meditate while talking to him, confirming and comparing what we see and try to meet up on the astral (I believe BO did sth similar with friends too). Meeting up at a table in an astral lounge is imo much better than on my shaky island or on the sunflower temple which would only alienate him probably. I'd just like to know if you are okay with that or not, because I would perfectly understand if you don't want to turn your lounge into babbys training ground. I will do this only when I think he is ready enough and only if you are okay with it. I'd just like to ask in advance. I need some solid exercises and some real experience, and those are hard to obtain when you are only doing stuff alone. Instead of trying to work with spirits and souls that might just be my own toughtforms (god knows how long it will take until I can actually perceive the real beings) living rent-free in my head and only draining me I want to involve another being that I can actually perceive as real and communicate with. And there is absolutely nobody else than my own brother. Let me know what you think.

Thank you for the invite!

Bartlebee here. Long time listener, first time caller.

I always love hearing about nice places to visit in the Astral, but I have a terrible memory for what I actually do there. Which is a little like a good night out drinking now that I think about it 😉

Nonetheless, I have managed to get a gig as an impresario for an exotic dancer troup. I handle more of the business end, with considerable help until I go fully astral. In addition to male and female dancers, we also have some great singers (including Sirens) in our company-they're not just pretty faces. And unlike some quarters of the astral my team are all employees (no slavery… except the BDSM kind for folks who are into that…).

I will try coming to visit, but hopefully I'll manage to make it along with a few of my more attractive colleagues. If you see a guy wearing a black overcoat, shiny purple tie and a gold-trimmed driving cap it means I made it. I'll probably be in the company of at least two astral entities-they should be much better conversationalists than I! My friends report that I will sometimes be doing fine and then fall asleep in the astral (not enough energy built up, apparently.)

Thank you again for the invite, hopefully I won't flub my order (In order of probability… French 75, Gin and Tonic, Rum and Coke, Jameson's and Ginger, Jack Daniel's neat.)

FYI - if you're in the neutral areas and see ads for the Lust Dancers, that's us.

>>3475

Nothing shared on /sunflower/ takes your energy with parhaps an exception for what a summoned entity does within the contract you made with them, but that is your on own terms.

In general the energy of other people is treated as karma, which means it's seen as harmful and it's not something anyone should get involved with, period.

It can be argues that sharing an artifact is to share energy, and that this would naturally create a balancing flow in the other direction. To avoid this, the artifacts and spells shared are created as templates or molds, which only serve to shape your own energy into the form of the artifact. This way the artifact is your own creation and no feedback energy stream appears. Artifacts shared like this will wear off (dissolve) as you create your own, and the original "template" will return to the person who shared it.

The sessions in which the silver tray is used, and similar, are specifically deviced to let your energy circulate at a distance from yourself and others, so as to avoid any energetic contamination from other people. This is based on an experience derived from Falun Gong which has no such safety mechanism and will drop other people's karma on you at the practice site if you're just the slightest bit careless with who you interact with.

No one wants your energy. If they do, they're lower beings (worms) and the energy they take would be harmful to keep. If you find anything on here to take energy (loosh farming) do tell, because that must not happen.

I hope this post is enough to explain the stance here.

>>3478

> I suppose this means the energy moved to your female side if male

From my personal experience and observations I think you may be right in what you say. This would explain why I noticable became much more balanced in terms of male-female and became open to the idea of even being female or having a female body. Never tought of the cave being a part of me tho. In the same regards I'm happy to finally understand what the succubus cave means lol. I always wondered about that damn cave.

>>3476

>exception for what a summoned entity

For me as far as I remember this could only apply to Doris, and she hasn't bothered to properly show herself yet. I went to /x/ a while ago and asked in a succubus thread about this and they said to me that's it's a spirits job to prove themselves to be real to me and I don't have to send energy to them. I agree with that tought and don't really want to feed her if she can't even prove herself to be real to me. I mean there are people who are absolutely not wizards or spiritual, people who are pretty mundane and stupid and they can talk to a spirit they get and have sex with them and get poltergeist activity without doing anything at all etc… But I'm not really mad or anything…tommorrow is valentines isn't it? It would be pretty cool if she would finally show up but I'm not expecting anything.

In regards to the red crystal, I guess I'll just take it. For friendship, a better future and combined power. I'm also once again terrible sorry that OPs lounge thread had again been derailed with off topic stuff, and I'm the culprit yet again. At least we could clear some things up, things that were on my mind for a long time.

>>3470

>That album

Oh my friend you have good taste. Thank the powers that be for Miles Davis's psychadelic phase. The unique but familiar sound that came from this influence isn't comparable with much anything that I can think of. It gives me the same feeling as I would get listening to Pink Floyd or the like. Love it, thank you for reminding me of this gold.

It is actually funny seeing your post now as I actually connected yesterday and was approached by someone like you describe, dark coat, kind of shaggy lighter colored hair if I recall, although he wore a hat like you mentioned, I saw it as only gold trimmed , not gold. You were very hyper, jumping around like an anime character while we were talking, very flamboyant it was quite entertaining haha. I dont recall noticing anyone with you though, but my memory isnt 100% on these things either so I could have missed them. Either way I enjoyed meeting you and it surprised me to read your post here now.

I hope you will return the next time you feel like.

>>3489

>Steely Dan

Any major dude will surely tell you my friend that you're an intelligent man. I enjoyed my first coffee this morning with the tune, "Do it Again". It's a long standing part of my morning playlist.

Are you an artist yourself? You certainly speak with an admirable amount of insight and knowledge on the subject. It's so rare these days to find someone willing to say anything more than, "Oh, I listen to a bit of everything." Haha.

Personally I write/sing and play a bit of several instruments. I primarily derive my style influences from blues, folk, and even 'outlaw' era country. (It has been said that I sound like a younger Waylon) Although I also create pieces across a wide range of genres and sounds.

It's not to say I am a professional or anything, I just enjoy music so much that not creating it would be a bit like a bird not flying..

Anyways, once again It was a pleasure meeting you and I do hope you will find connecting to the lounge easier from now on. They say the first visit is the weakest.

>>3491

Just another scurvy brother…

Not a musician myself, but I do love listening. The Steely Dan Boxed Set is the only boxed set I've ever bought. And the adjacent stuff like Kamakiriad is good too (Succubus related?)

🎵They're mixing with the population

🎵A virus wearing pumps and pearls

🎵Lord help the lonely guys

🎵Hooked by those hungry eyes

🎵Here come tomorrow's girls

Outlaw country is great "Fuck You" music, which is an important part of a balanced breakfast. It'll be a shame if I live a life so good and pure that no one thinks to play a little Cash at my Wake.

https://youtu.be/nxATAL9zoP8

"Almost Blue" • Chet Baker

Enjoy!