a00cbb No.2705 [View All]
Western, eastern, physical or spiritual, anything relating to vampires in this thread! This includes witchcraft and werewolves which are historically inseperable from the concept of vampirism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Vampyre
"The Vampyre" is a short work of prose fiction written in 1819 by John William Polidori as part of a contest between Polidori, Mary Shelley, Lord Byron, and Percy Shelley. The same contest produced the novel Frankenstein; or, The Modern Prometheus.[1] The Vampyre is often viewed as the progenitor of the romantic vampire genre of fantasy fiction.[2] The work is described by Christopher Frayling as "the first story successfully to fuse the disparate elements of vampirism into a coherent literary genre."[3]
"The Vampyre" was first published on 1 April 1819 by Henry Colburn in the New Monthly Magazine with the false attribution "A Tale by Lord Byron". The name of the work's protagonist, "Lord Ruthven", added to this assumption, for that name was originally used in Lady Caroline Lamb's novel Glenarvon (from the same publisher), in which a thinly-disguised Byron figure was named Clarence de Ruthven, Earl of Glenarvon. Despite repeated denials by Byron and Polidori, the authorship often went unclarified.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire
Vampiric entities have been recorded in most cultures; the term vampire was popularized in Western Europe after reports of an 18th-century mass hysteria of a pre-existing folk belief in the Balkans and Eastern Europe that in some cases resulted in corpses being staked and people being accused of vampirism.[1] Local variants in Eastern Europe were also known by different names, such as shtriga in Albania, vrykolakas in Greece and strigoi in Romania.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werewolf
Slavic uses the term vlko-dlak (Polish wilkołak, Czech vlkodlak, Slovak vlkolak, Serbo-Croatian вукодлак - vukodlak, Slovenian volkodlak, Bulgarian върколак/vrkolak, Belarusian ваўкалак/vaukalak, Ukrainian вовкулака/vovkulaka), literally "wolf-skin", paralleling the Old Norse ulfhéðinn. However, the word is not attested in the medieval period. The Slavic term was loaned into modern Greek as Vrykolakas. Baltic has related terms, Lithuanian vilkolakis and vilkatas, Latvian vilkatis and vilkacis. The name vurdalak (вурдалак) for the Slavic vampire ("ghoul, revenant") is a corruption due to Alexander Pushkin, which was later widely spread by A.K. Tolstoy in his novella The Family of the Vourdalak (composed in French, but first published in a Russian translation in 1884).
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a450cc No.4053
>>4052
>Are we truly connected by the vampire egregore I wonder?
I wonder indeed. Well…if it makes sense to you with everything you have learned about reality and immortals so far.
>I think that was me.
Was it also you who wrote of himself as a "vampire in waiting" when asking about the effect of the dropping of the human energy levels?
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33ed2f No.4054
>>4053
Yeah, that was me too.
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604e04 No.4055
Anyone else both vampire and succubus? I can't tell what belongs to what when I'm interpreting things.
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7f8b0e No.4056
>>4055
Those are different layers. Vampires are in duality on the "evil" layer while succubus are on the outermost chaotic meta layer. Vampires count as a kind of angel, which implies ethereal, resistant to cultural changes and a tendency towards genocide to maintain society according to their values. It's a gradual scale where what is called an angel has white, or white and black magic, while vampires usually have more of the red and black.
What is called a succubus in this context refers to an entity on the astral only, often with different forms or avatars representing different qualities.
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eae191 No.4079
Ehm how do I know if I'm a vampire?
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7f8b0e No.4082
>>4079
What do you mean by that?
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eae191 No.4083
>>4082
Like maybe sucking energy is what's missing from my life? But how do I know. They say either you are a vampire or you aren't. But how do I know?
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7f8b0e No.4086
>>4083
That's like asking if you are a tennis player or not. Why do you need to ask someone else this? It sounds like you're just looking for social validation.
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5d413c No.4087
>>4086
Never you mind what it *sounds* like.
Are you saying anyone can become a psychic vampire, in the same sense that anyone can become a tennis player.?
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7f8b0e No.4088
>>4087
Whatever you practice, you become, because your actions determine the contents of your genes. I don't know why anyone would want to be a "psychic vampire" though, that's just someone who abuses other people socially.
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465d9c No.4090
>>4087
This thread isn't about that kind of vampire. Nor any other kind you would imagine, probably. Heck, I don't think we should call it "vampire" at all, but nevermind.
>>4079
You are not.
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7f8b0e No.4134
Well isn't that funny? The Vampire Diaries spin-off Legacies decided to do a Star Wars parody episode, aired last night.
They even got the two moons from 1Q84 by Haruki Murakami, with the smaller green one right there. The same thing which appeared in Dubai earlier this year irl.
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a450cc No.4135
>>4134
Just what indeed could be the meaning of this?
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465d9c No.4136
>>4134
>appeared in Dubai earlier this year irl
Hold on. What?
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a450cc No.4138
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7f8b0e No.4139
>>4136
>What?
See the webm on the post.
>>4138
Yeah that's BS, it doesn't even look like the images they said they projected. Aside from that other sources confirmed the two moons were
>a natural visual illusion
and not man made. Someone is just trying to control the narrative. No probe was sent to Mars either but that's a different topic.
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a450cc No.4140
>>4139
Do you know if Lyrans want to get together with Vampires/Undeads/Retards who took the vampire spell and made it according to you? Or do they only look for humans to breed and mix with?
If I install Lyranet for myself, will I then be able to get a Lyran gf early? Assuming they want to get together with vampires. Will I be able to talk to her only through telepathy so that nobody from my family will understand her and I have to explain everything back and forth when she meets them?
Does anyone here aside from the BO install the Lyranet, or at least tried it?
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7f8b0e No.4141
>>4140
I know one other person who installed lyranet. I would have said two, but the second person was possibly possessed by a djinneyeh. Some kind of fuckery has been going on, so I had to draw the conclusion it was an actually this entity who installed the astral version of lyranet for non-physicals, then gave feedback while pretending to be the person. (I hope it's ok for me to say, the person who installed it is the anon behind the Akasha Lounge >>3113 )
About the lyrans and vampires I had this dream which seemed to indicate the lyrans and "luciferans", the new age word for vampires, are the same originally. I can't be bothered to retype this so here's a screencap.
>If I install Lyranet for myself, will I then be able to get a Lyran gf early? Assuming they want to get together with vampires. Will I be able to talk to her only through telepathy so that nobody from my family will understand her and I have to explain everything back and forth when she meets them?
If you manage to install it to functional level, you can talk to them and take part in their VR community, which is a requirement if you want to socialize with them. The rest you will have to take from there.
If they can talk to people or not is a matter of personal skill, some can use real time translator modules - if they care. It's more likely they will use "intrusive telepathy" to talk to mundanes rather than trying to speak words, their mouths aren't made for humans sounds.
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a450cc No.4142
>>4141
Yeah the Lounge guy seemed to have good astral skills, no wonder he could do it. I didn't know he was still active though. I guess everyone hangs out on Discord these days…
>their mouths aren't made for humans sounds.
It would be pretty awesome if they just went all "meow" and "purr" on you like actual cats. At that point they might as well just normally talk to earth cats which would also be kinda cool.
Lyranet kinda sketches me out, all that VR nanochip stuff…especially since I have yet to see an actual ship or Lyran. But then again a real immortal vampire should be immune against all manipulations and in control anyway so maybe it's just my inner npc that has doubts about it. In order to install it, I just stare at the red dot in the sigil for a while and then expand it and that's it, or something like that?
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7f8b0e No.4143
>>4142
"Active focus" on the circle until you get what may feel like an emotional feedback. It helps to have the intent to accept the lyrans and a neutral mindset apart from this. When you see the red dot, pull it like you would to increase the size of an image on a touch screen, and the install will activate.
It's possible nothing will happen after that for a while, or it happens all at once. They'll notice someone connected using the installer and pick out the modules you can handle. It can differ between individuals.
To explain it in human terms, it's like you installed MS-DOS, then you need drivers and even hardware, starting with keyboard, mouse, disc drives and so on. You can still connect with DOS but it'll be very limited if you don't have the graphical interface for example.
Once you have enough hardware (modules) and programs you will be able to launch the system the way it's meant to look. One thing to note is that you need the lyranet browser if you want to reach beyond the very nearest area. Lyranet per defeault only adds you to a small group of members closest to your location. There's a firewall and a scanner to prevent harmful code from spreading which you need to pass over to connect to the mainnet. There is no organized way to receive the browser on your own, you have to ask someone to do a private file transfer of the installer. Once you have access, you can use education programs and access archives on the mainnet.
For example there is the toolbox and the weaponcrate, two archives which come with a manifestation module. It you practice with this you will be able to manifest anything from those archives into physical reality.
We tried it and at first try were able to briefly see and feel different tools and weapons. By feel I mean the full experience of holding them in your hand, complete with weight.
I adapted the method to my Sakuya character and was able to learn how to manifest knife edges. Doing full manifestation is difficult, but if you only do the edge it does the job anyway.
I've tried it by pressing the point of the knife against my finger and the pain is real and instant. I also tested this with two nymphs (spirits), showed them how to do it and told them to test it by pressing the knife against my finger. The pain made me pull my hand back instinctively even if the knife wasn't visible.
This has many possibilities; imagine an army of poltergeists who can actually do physical harm…
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465d9c No.4145
Please, try to keep Lyran talk in the Lyran thread. Talk about getting Lyran girlfriends tends to take over.
I just realized I might've had an NDE, but it was during the night, so I hadn't really identified it as such until now. What do you think?
I once was dumped into astral space in the middle of the night. I was very angry at something from my waking life I couldn't remember, but in my astral state, that anger had instant creative power, and it consumed everything around me, my dream space, and left me alone in the void. At this point, I became lucid and realized I was having an astral experience.
Having nothing left in my immediate vicinity, the anger turned towards me, and I experienced as it consumed and destroyed every aspect of my personality, one by one. I felt as they disconnected, as I was stripped of my ego piece by piece. I didn't mind so much because I was identified with the anger. I was so angry I didn't care. I just wanted to kill and destroy everything.
Physically, it felt like sinking into a mass of bloody and incandescent flesh that constantly teared itself apart and reformed in ever simpler forms. All the while, I was compressed into a smaller and smaller space.
In the end, my own mind disappeared, and only pure anger remained. Anger which hated itself with the intensity of all existence, because existence itself was pure anger. Being was anger. Other than my point of perception, there was nothing else. The anger destroyed itself in a point of anger singularity. I vaguely remember it being an infinitely dense, bright/dark red point of unstoppable consumption. I do remember that in the last instant before self-annihilation, it didn't feel like anger anymore. It didn't feel like anything that could be described, because existence itself had degraded to the point that there were no reference points, but I do remember there was a distinctive feeling of force, which an instant before had been destructive and now was somehow creative, acid, bright red, burning, if that makes sense. Then it consumed itself and everything disappeared. For a while there (it could've been eternity, as there was no way to measure time anyway), there was nothing. Not even perception, if that makes sense. But I still perceived not perceiving… Anyway, it can't be described. And then, suddenly, “it” began being again. First a simple, pure point-like perception of perceiving. Then a light that slowly grew and became more complex, with energetic structures flowering and differentiating at an increased rate, and eventually I became something I could identify as me again and woke up. The funny thing is I didn't register the point where I actually “woke up”. I was observing this process of becoming and at some point I realized I was awake in my bed.
Did I die? Could this have been the fabled NDE we talked about in older threads?
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7f8b0e No.4147
>>4145
Very good description, this is how I would say I perceive the formation of the zero particle which is the core of immortality for the soul, mind and body. I can't say if that counts as an NDE, maybe this was more of an echo of the formation itself reaching your conscious mind at a later time?
I tend to have that happen with many things, where I don't realize what they were until much later. My NDE, if it can be called that, was a situation which could have been lethal (possible car crash) which was averted by a force that made the car stop. I never related this one event to this, but knew something had happened.
It's only been later I started realizing that one aspect of vampirism is the ability of being on the top of the structural food chain in a way less perceptible. Maybe it can be described as how everyone in a country will have to protect the king, and no matter what happens they have to step in and even sacrifice themselves, because they cannot live without his leadership anyway. In this case it's like the king would also guarantee the revival of everyone, as long as he lives.
Symbolically it feels this way. After that non-event, lots of things happened, among them someone else driving like a madman and crashing to death. I only recently started realizing that danger and harm is being transferred onto my surroundings. I know this thread isn't for that, but it's related so I'll bring it up. During a grey channelling they told me this is one function for members of the Galactic Federation. They will protect people with a certain mindset, and they will throw any resources in the way of any harm coming for the person because they are seen as essential, same way a country may save the banks to protect the economy. A person with a certain valuable mindset or skill would just not be allowed to be harmed, and they'd just use up the energy of other people to negate the harm.
A vampiric egregore may work like this.
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465d9c No.4152
>>4147
>danger and harm is being transferred onto my surroundings
This has absolutely happened a lot. Even when it’s my fault, bad karma simply gets funneled away and something breaks. This would normally be a bad omen, but it stops there. The only consequence I seem to be responsible for is the state of my own emotional body, which does degrade from time to time.
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13667c No.4153
>>4143
>To explain it in human terms, it's like you installed MS-DOS, then you need drivers and even hardware, starting with keyboard, mouse, disc drives and so on. You can still connect with DOS but it'll be very limited if you don't have the graphical interface for example.
>Once you have enough hardware (modules) and programs you will be able to launch the system the way it's meant to look.
Interesting, do you know if its possible to install it without access to weapons then? My thought/intent control is not good at all, so if I installed I wouldn't want to worry about hurting anyone.
Also, did you take the DNA upgrade? If you did, then what sort of changes have you noticed?
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7f8b0e No.4154
>>4153
>Interesting, do you know if its possible to install it without access to weapons then? My thought/intent control is not good at all, so if I installed I wouldn't want to worry about hurting anyone.
You have to manually look for and install everything unless they decided it's something you need. It's activated by intent, not stray thoughts, and it's too difficult to use manifestation for anyone to do that by mistake, so don't worry. They have methods for handling fear or hurting others also.
>Also, did you take the DNA upgrade? If you did, then what sort of changes have you noticed?
I "woke up" from the mindset I had before and realized it's a slave mindset developed over many generations and passed on through our genes, which makes humans think it's normal for a government to tell them what to do. I suddenly saw that humans are independent and have their own will, and that no external entity can tell anyone what to do. Laws are not valid and no central power of any kind has any legitimacy. The "matrix control system" people talk about is the combination of the slave genetics and the federal, national and local governments. Everyone is stuck in this thinking and if you criticise it they can't imagine not having them. These things are all artificial and shouldn't control humans, there should be no government system telling any human what to do, no taxes, agencies or armies. All of these are against nature and using them on humans is a crime by galactic code.
As you can see this is at a completely different level than what most people talk about, since they still think the problem is in the leader figures or laws. They don't see that the very existence of authorities and rule by law is the crime. You won't be able to see it unless you fundamentally get rid of the slave genetics, either by direct modification or through generations of selective breeding. People in underdeveloped countries are only called such because they don't respond to authority. "Unprogrammed" is a better word.
All of this also made me understand why aliens won't approach leaders or make these kinds of displays. At most they see the governmental systems as technological procedures, a kind of organic computing. They won't "challenge" any government or make any deals with it, that's out of the question, same as taking people seriously if they think along those lines. They're not going to make deals with the slave masters or accept anything they do, because they're not this uncivilized.
Relating this back to how vampire heirarchies function I'd think that's not the same thing, it's more like how a wolfpack functions. It's not a system of rule which can be passed on, it's entirely based on the personal relations of the members of the group.
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7f8b0e No.4162
Hmm…
https://www.tvfanatic.com/2021/06/legacies-boss-responds-to-shortened-third-season/
It's unfortunate, but Legacies Season 3 is ending earlier than planned.
With The CW recently announcing that Legacies Season 3 will wrap June 24, it means that Legacies Season 3 Episode 16 will now serve as the season finale.
Twenty episodes were written, but showrunner Brett Matthews is opening up about the temporary finale and how it will be worthwhile.
Why though, they first extended it to 20 from 12, then suddenly ending it after the Star Wars episode.
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7f8b0e No.4213
>>4162
Season finale was good but contained nothing special from a symbolic standpoint, apart from maybe that it seemed better written than many other episodes, focusing more on the relations of the main characters.
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76aebb No.4297
For those who where present during meguca days, there are some things which can be put into context by adding later received information.
The Babylonian channelling
https://pastebin.com/kd6RrdSC
gave names to previous time periods as following:
Each human civilization period is world wide, it does not "count" on a scale smaller than this.
Period
1: Ra
2: N/A
3: Moloch
4: Illuminati
5: Babylon
6: Atlantis
7: Current civilization, let's call this Roman/Hellenic
By taking the common claim that each human civilization cycle being 26k years into account, and the claim that we are currently at the very end of the last cycle (pic), we can count the number of years back to each period.
7 x 26000 = 182000
This matches the claim that the first vampire (sometimes called Cain) is around 180k years old. He would indeed have lived during the initial stages of period 1. This also corresponds with Cain being one of the first humans named in the Old Testament/Torah.
The Matriarch was said to be 70k years old, which, if we count each period as 26k years, places her birth in the beginning of Babylon period.
The "daft lady" was said to be the initial disciple of Cain and 130k years old.
130000 / 26000 = 5
This places her birth exactly at the end of the mystery period 2, and the beginning of period 3, Moloch.
The group called The Court Ladies are said to be around 20k - 35k years old, placing their birth in high Atlantean to early Hellenic period, while The Princess is 40k years old, making her an Atlantean nobility.
It's been further indicated that Artillery Mage, the wizard of The Library is the only survivor of the previous earth, which also consists of 7 periods. This would mean his group is the collected knowledge and culture of the past planet earth.
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d0daff No.4299
>>4297
This is actually interesting, but earlier you said the Matriarch was 120k years old.
Would the first Vampire called Cain be the same Cain/Quain from the Liber Falxifer?
What you said in the succubus thread, isn't it the same for vampires? When your core unites with your body and you become projected onto the human layer. The wednesday exercise should be working for vampires too but instead of visiting the succubus world we can try to visit any other world? For me it would be cool to at least learn to dive into the etheric layer and walk/fly the earth while being invisible to humans. This seems to correspond to the ability of turning to mist.
>It's been further indicated that Artillery Mage, the wizard of The Library is the only survivor of the previous earth
How come he was the only one? Had they not something like magic and vampirism?
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76aebb No.4300
>>4299
>the Matriarch was 120k years old
I don't remember this. Maybe my telepathy was confused or inexact.
>Would the first Vampire called Cain be the same Cain/Quain from the Liber Falxifer?
Yes, but it's a myth. Liber Falxifer states Eve had a child with the serpent and that this was Cain. But the serpent to my understanding isn't a Satan/demon but rather Ouroboros, the very 8 seen in the logo of this website. It's an alien technology which was inserted in an attempt to speed up human technological development. It did so to some degree but because it's reptilian technology, they use the base 6 number system and failed to incorporate it properly with the hexadecimal and septenary already in place. This caused the timelines to split which resulted in the "earth quarantine". This did achieve the goal of increasing technological development by turning the planet into a pressure cooker, but it didn't go along with the intended route.
That said, Cain was not the son of the serpent in any direct manner as the story in Liber Falxifer makes it sound like. Although if treated symbolically, it could perhaps be said that the pressure cooker effect made the earth into the dark place needed for vampires to prosper, so there is a causality, but indirect.
>The wednesday exercise should be working for vampires too
It's a simple method so yes, probably, if you target a different location and summon a different guide.
>How come he was the only one? Had they not something like magic and vampirism?
Li Hongzhi said the earth with our kind of humans had been created 2 times. The first one was left alone to run until completely destroyed environmentally as an experiment. Humans started being born with deformities and eventually became infertile, then the planet was wiped out and recreated.
It was during the high civilization of this period greys from Nibiru (planet 9) came here as they still had physical bodies, they built the space station we call the moon. Nibiru has since been taken over by technology and turned into a wasteland and greys as a physical race were wiped out.
It sounds unlikely that all this would have happened during a mere 400k years, but I think there's some fuckery going on with the timelines which makes us in here experience time slower, or it has to do with the repeating 26k year cycle where some people have to keep redoing it and can't move on to the next "age of man". It's possible only very few people are here in the last period right now, the rest could be NPC images of people who are still not done with the past period and will catch up to inhabit these timelines way later when we all have already left.
Artillery Mage became immortal through magic, but it seems none of his disciples did. To compare, it took 50k years before Cain found a disciple who could learn his things, it only took off after that. Maybe the wand path is just too specialized so 200k years wasn't enough time.
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604e04 No.4301
>>4300
>I don't remember this. Maybe my telepathy was confused or inexact.
>>115839
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604e04 No.4302
>>4300
>I don't remember this. Maybe my telepathy was confused or inexact.
>>>/fringe/115839
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76aebb No.4303
>>4302
There's a mix up of the titles in that post, that was the previous matriarch, now called "the daft lady" because she went into the astral and disappeared some unkown millennia ago. She doesn't seem all sane and may attack astral travellers for no reason.
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d0daff No.4304
>>4300
>will catch up to inhabit these timelines way later when we all have already left.
How do I know I am actually part of your timeline and not some other like the fairly recent /fit/ muscleposter who came here?
>It's a simple method so yes, probably, if you target a different location and summon a different guide.
Can I do it without a guide? I have an astral body and we did the spear session together for it. I want to learn how to go into the etheric plane and into the astral without having to find spiral stone portals in the physical.
Also would you be able to expound how to unlock your female/opposite gender body as a vampire and manifest in it?
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76aebb No.4305
>>4304
>we did the spear session
Where you here for the session where we also did the fancy box? This sigil was used for it, (meant to be round but it was drawn on the astral so this is just a quick sketch) it's done by getting the "fancy box" which represents our universe and moving your physical layer body into it using this sigil. That way you "own" a copy of the universe and your body rests in it, giving your full control.
If you didn't do this one, it's better to start there. Will get back for the rest in a bit.
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76aebb No.4306
>>4304
>How do I know I am actually part of your timeline
At least they are intersecting enough that we can talk. Does it matter?
>how to unlock your female/opposite gender body as a vampire and manifest in it?
It will self activate when powerful enough, manifesting first as a tulpa, with the difference that you may find her manifesting in physical reality and interacting with other people. A regular tulpa is only in your head and can't do this.
I'd recommend trying to first "mount" her in the astral and move around there without trying to manifest to get used to the form. Changing form physically is tricky, not because it's a huge deal in itself, but because your mind needs to fully change to sync with the form.
There is a switch on your astral body, connecting the 2 bodies and determining which one is used for your own point of view manifestation in the physical. That's all. Flip it over and your body changes instantly. The catch is that you are not allowed to be mentally ill, i.e you can't change the body and remain in the mind you had before, that would instantly give you gender dysphoria. The magic egregore or whatever, it doesn't allow this. The body can only be switched if you are able to be "cis", as in the gender identity of the mind matching the sex of the body. This means you have to create a mind double for the other body, before you can stabilize the form. Even then, if you are not mentally prepared to move about in that body with the social and other implications it entails, you will not be able to get up and the body will switch back once you move.
It's 99% in your mind, the body itself is no big deal, it's just molecules (qi).
There is one guy in the cabal who switched permanently, try contecting them over telepathy and ask if you want. His astral image is weird because he somehow didn't change his self awareness apart from the body, so it looks like the mind of a man with a beard but the body is a woman in a 1700s dress.
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d0daff No.4319
>>4305
>Where you here for the session where we also did the fancy box?
I wasn't, but I saw a box being mentioned on shamik. Did you and others take the box and placed your bodies inside? What I don't understand is whether that gives you full control in this universe where we all are in or if you get into a seperate copy of the same universe where you will be completely alone? The other box where everyone is a lesbian 12 year old is also kinda interesting. It would be nice if you could be in both or travel freely between them and try out what you like until you find what works best.
>>4306
>Does it matter?
I don't know but it probably does, since if we are in different timeles events, outcomes and maybe even magic can be different for us.
>It's 99% in your mind
Yes, and if the guy switched without changing his mind it proves that where there is a will, there is a way. If it's all in your mind means with enough control and the right mindset everything is possible. I think with a balanced/hermaphroditic mind it would be much easier to be in control of both bodies. So far thanks for the explanation.
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76aebb No.4320
>>4319
>Did you and others take the box and placed your bodies inside? What I don't understand is whether that gives you full control in this universe where we all are in or if you get into a seperate copy of the same universe where you will be completely alone?
The concepts normally used don't work once you start working with them. What I'll say here may not seem to make sense, but I'll relate it to some things to at least explain my view.
The universe, I sometimes spell it Uni-verse to make a point, only refers to small particles and inner matter. Normally people think of space and things you can see when looking at the night sky. Those are galaxies. Maybe if we call it macro-cosmos and micro-cosmos it will be easier to explain. The universe is the micro-cosmos, while galaxies are the macro-cosmos.
I spelled it as Uni-verse to imply that it's a verse, a sentence, and there's only one. Like a code of conduct you all agree on, and that is only one, hence uni(one) and verse(statement). There are many different universes, and they look differently, but it seems common that they look like containers. Our universe is a "fancy box", the djinn universe is an oil lamp. The skinwalkers have a strange black device that gives off the same feel that the painting Isle of the dead.
There should be copies of both the fancy box and the black glossy box in the study of the sunflower temple.
Boxes contain the "lore" of the universe it represents. What beings there are, what flora and fauna, how they live. When you enter one or use one to interact with other beings, it restricts your culture, manifestation and conduct to the lore of the universe in use. Being in close contact with the universe means being well synced with this universe of your choice. If you can have multiple bodies (if you have the ability) you can join multiple universes.
Galaxies on the other hand are large bulky things, and they're bigger than universes. In reference to some mythological beings, Tritons are a universe in themselves, every one of them is a universe, they apply the base code but are all different. Their device looks like an asian hat. The Empusa from Greek mythology is the size of a galaxy. They're said to seduce men and suck out their energy. You can buy bindings for them on CH. It works because they chose to follow this format to interact with humans, they aren't mindless monsters. But they are galaxies, so they have a black hole in the center and are enormous. If you were to fight one, they could suck out your life force instantly, because it's you vs a galaxy.
>The other box where everyone is a lesbian 12 year old is also kinda interesting. It would be nice if you could be in both or travel freely between them and try out what you like until you find what works best.
That is possible, explained above.
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d0daff No.4321
>>4320
Do you have a link to the thread/board/post where you did the session?
You mentioned the fancy box first in reply to my wish of going into the etheric and astral plane. I wonder if this is how all the other vampires have done it too. Probably not. Is this a legit method, just using the box to get control? Or maybe it would be better to learn how to travel anywhere the oldschool way? Maybe I am making a mistake here in assuming that there is any difference at all. But in using a box and a sigil I feel like I haven't attained any power or skill myself.
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76aebb No.4322
>>4321
>Do you have a link to the thread/board/post where you did the session?
No, it was done in a livethread on shamiko and never archived.
>I wonder if this is how all the other vampires have done it too. Probably not. Is this a legit method, just using the box to get control?
No, they did not use this specific method. But anything done within the same universe is using the same "verse", just a different manifestion of it. Any method you used would be contained somewhere in the box, irrespective of if you went by the box form or not.
>Or maybe it would be better to learn how to travel anywhere the oldschool way? Maybe I am making a mistake here in assuming that there is any difference at all. But in using a box and a sigil I feel like I haven't attained any power or skill myself.
The box is a tool. On the astral it looks like an artifact, but it may as well be understood as a "tool" in the form of a template structuring your work. An organizational method such as what programmers use, is also a "tool", for example. On the astral it would look like an artifact if refined enough. You can share it by writing it down in a book (grimoire), someone can read it and apply it and through that learn the tool, which will also become a version of the same astral artifact when fully understood.
If you feel that the fancy box isn't for you, maybe this universe's lore and culture isn't actually for you? There are other ones.
The skinwalker/nomor black box contains a very generic kind of life, which is easy to adapt to many other universal cultures. It was unintended but after making the glossy box for 12 year old lesbians, I realized the black/red magic combo resulting from the standard used was very much like them. It's a rather monstruous frame with a natural physiological bisexuality, molded into a stylized pictoresque cobblestone street culture with 1800s fashion. It's taking a compound of cute and neat things and making them work by adding whatever makes it possible.
There's nothing stopping you from making your own, but it may not be as new or different as you first intend once done. Either way, feel free to try.
The conventional way takes a lot of time, it's not very easy to grasp, see
>>38
Sunflower is all about trying to analyze the functional elements of traditional methods and finding ways to "cheat" or cut corners to the extreme while retaining the core. If you want to put in your own work, that's fine, it's just a different method.
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d0daff No.4323
>>4322
>If you feel that the fancy box isn't for you, maybe this universe's lore and culture isn't actually for you?
There is nothing wrong with trying it out as long as I can detach myself from it again and/or go to other places. I just don't want to fuck myself up or trap myself or get stuck forever in one spot. If that's not a problem then I'll do it. One can always learn other methods later.
>finding ways to "cheat" or cut corners to the extreme while retaining the core.
That's something I can agree with.
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76aebb No.4324
>>4323
>as long as I can detach myself from it again and/or go to other places. I just don't want to fuck myself up or trap myself or get stuck forever in one spot
The only permanent thing is knowledge, skill, insight and awakening. Anything trapping you would be the opposite of learning and the opposite of skill. Ignorance doesn't last.
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7f8b0e No.4349
I'm going to put this post here because I expect the group of anons interested in this thread are more likely to have the skill and interest for this. It's about manifestation.
I won't start posting some long series of posts if there is no interest, so I'll just ask and wait for reply. Does anyone want to work with learning to use "the remote", originally based on what grey aliens use, but adapted to us earthlings, to manifest your own personal flying saucer?
It's not going to be easy, and it's not something you can just follow a manual for and it works. But it overlaps with the dimension skipping and teleportation methods already talked of here. It may be another avenue to achieving this skill, in line with the Sunflower method of using whatever can work, no matter what it is.
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af95f8 No.4357
>>4349
>to manifest your own personal flying saucer?
fuck…I'd love this, but I'm very unskilled, so no point in even trying it for me. I don't even know if there would be a place for me to go.
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465d9c No.4359
>>4357
Same here. Plus crippling skepticism.
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d0daff No.4361
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7f8b0e No.4362
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af95f8 No.4370
>>4357 here
>>4349
>personal flying saucer
is there a way to get some spirit to do this for me, or as the name implies, has to be done by the one who's gonna use it?
would it be a UFO that can materialize then take the person in and dematerialize? (taking the person to the etheric/astral plane?)
would it be safe to post about it here?
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7f8b0e No.4372
>>4370
>is there a way to get some spirit to do this for me, or as the name implies, has to be done by the one who's gonna use it?
It is constructed by you and used by you, or it won't be under your control.
>would it be a UFO that can materialize then take the person in and dematerialize? (taking the person to the etheric/astral plane?)
This is a matter of concepts. The saucer (it is not an unidentified object to you) per default is physical but it's not necessarily our physical. It will appear visually in some way, and to the user it will appear as real. Moving to the astral is not a simple task and is not a function in the suggested saucer.
>would it be safe to post about it here?
Why not?
TL:DR
The sigil will direct you to an information package. Open it to begin the process of creating the remote. It may result in an unpleasant dream the following night because the process is effective, not pleasant. You then design the remote in the way you want it, such as adding a screen and controls.
Access the blacknet cloud and look for the saucer instructions on there. You will probably also need to install a chaos drive. The one which looks like a minidisc is recommended for this.
That's all. If you can do that much on your own, we can start talking about how to actually use the saucers.
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ce4568 No.4516
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