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#30403 >>24902964

>>24903423, >>24903459, >>24903509 LIVE: Trump Arrives in Los Angeles

>>24903464 Now, off on MarineOne to RNC Event

>>24903433, >>24903556 Armed suspect arrested at Rancho Palos Verdes golf course ahead of Trump visit

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>>24903292 @realDonaldTrump For many years, the vast Majority of Americans have asked to make Daylight Saving Time permanent, but no Administration has been able to get it done, until now. I am proud to announce that the House of Representatives has passed the Bill, and it has now gone to the Senate for final approval

>>24903212 @realDonaldTrump WINNING

>>24903020 @realDonaldTrump Manufacturing is BOOMING! Factory activity just hit its fastest pace in more than FOUR YEARS, far exceeding expectations. New orders have expanded for SEVEN straight months. American Manufacturing is BACK!

>>24903022, >>24903030 SEC call on memecoin/Warren n Blumenthal

>>24903038 THE BATTLE FOR THE SOUL OF HUMANITY with MKUltra Whistleblower James Martinez

>>24903041 Trust destroyed (commentary as Senator Rick Scott questions Anthony Fauci)

>>24903045, >>24903054 The Justice Department Press Conference

>>24903072 20 Republican Senators Are Now Standing Together DEMANDING no August Recess Until the SAVE America Act is passed.

>>24903075 NEWS: I am introducing the No Payoffs for Pardons Act, Schumer (D-NY), Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), Representative Joe Morelle (D-NY)

>>24903080, >>24903106 @SenRandPaul 🚨DROPPED: My contempt resolution for Anthony Fauci

>>24903101, >>24903113, >>24903123, >>24903295 Democratic congressional candidate gets knocked out at the beach in Maui

>>24903104, >>24903116, >>24903133, >>24903140 U.S. Wildfire Crisis Worsens | 99 Major Fires Burning & 5.25 Million Acres Lost

>>24903145, >>24903149, >>24903157 What a trillion dollars buys Xi, CCP

>>24903155 Christian fired for opposing ‘sex changes’ wins $410k from University of Michigan

>>24903164 @CENTCOM The southern route through the Strait of Hormuz remains free and open for all commercial vessels seeking to transit the international waterway.

>>24903175 CAIR

>>24903189 Chinese government-owned banks constitute seven of the top ten banks in the world

>>24903190, >>24903195 MOON BASE

>>24903200 Wildfire Disaster Spirals Across Greece As Emergency Crews Battle Flames

>>24903211, >>24903224, >>24903231 Wildfire in Limburg(Netherlands): ‘Now scaled up to major incident’

>>24903217 Aug 4, 2026: Powerful Eruption Continues from Fuego Volcano in Guatemala

>>24903222 German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius inadvertently disclosed classified information about the delivery of RCH 155 self-propelled howitzers to Kiev

>>24903223, >>24903462 Top American generals formed a secret backchannel with a CCP military intelligence front that instructed them

>>24903271 The Bee: Mark of the Beast keks

>>24903301 Bessent: A stable yen is important not only for the U.S., but for the entire region

>>24903325 dropbox back online

>>24903327 Kennedy on U.S. Senate Floor: When you have differences in opinion, vote. That's why God made votes.

>>24903353 NAHB: Regulations account for about 1 in every 4 dollars spent to build a new home

>>24903369 Trump takes economic message to BLUE states

>>24903380 Federal court restores Florida law protecting children from drag shows

>>24903414 Nick Shirley's New Video On Ceuta's Migrant Crisis

>>24903427 Happy 236th Birthday to the AWESOME @USCG! 🇺🇸🦅

>>24903430 Justin Trudeau is Katy Perry’s handbag …and she's his beard.

>>24903485 Army Refers Charges Against Doctor Blaine McGraw Who Allegedly Sexually Abused 93 Victims

>>24903490, >>24903472 Achieve Sustainability by Easing Population to 4 Billion by 2200

>>24903492 “Australians are not being investigated for hating Jews. They are being investigated for objecting to a genocide.”

>>24903497 New York’s euthanasia law takes effect Wednesday amid nuns’ legal challenge

>>24903530 JOHN SOLOMON INTERVIEW RAND PAUL ON FAUCI

>>24903617 #30403

#30402 >>24901837

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>>24901930 Senate Judiciary Committee Votes On Todd Blanche For US Attorney General

>>24901952 Muh 20 seconds

>>24902005 Ms. Meng wanting everything in writing

>>24902016 The rattling intensifies

>>24902038 Share evidence rn

>>24902040 Mr hirono is losing her voice?

>>24902042 They all have scripts to read.

>>24902075 Mitch seen in the wild

>>24902140 Anon reclaims his time

>>24902181 Anon Bun

>>24902560 The Sen Judiciary Committee favorably reported @DAGToddBlanche’s nomination for AG

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>>24901852 DO IT Q! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

>>24901871 Today in Q Post History

>>24901875 Say something nice to Balack Obama on his birthday

>>24901886 U.S. Treasury fined UBS Financial Services $125 million.

>>24901919 U.S. Coast Guard has remained Always Ready- #1790

>>24901940 What happens when good men do nothing?

>>24901983 BonGino A Pivotal Decision Day (Ep. 2566)

>>24902056 Bible Verse of the Day

>>24902061 Seasons Treasons

>>24902087 NASA Astronomy Picture of the Day Curious Cometary Knots in the Helix Nebula

>>24902134 RFK Jr: Lyme disease and RSV came from gain-of-function research

>>24902145 11:00 AM EDT WATCH LIVE: DOJ unveils MAJOR healthcare fraud takedown

>>24902167 Treasury Sec. Bessent: A stable yen is important

>>24902207 PDJT It was my Honor to welcome now Senator Darline Graham Nordone

>>24902252 Trump Admin Cancels 28,000 Trucker Licenses Held by Illegal Aliens

>>24902319 15 months of (ZERO) border crossings.

>>24902382 Sen. John Cornyn "…this is all we could do under the circumstances"

>>24902407 @TheJusticeDept is moving to marking its largest citizenship revocation surge on record.

>>24902551 African Migrants Hijack TV Broadcast as Reporters Call Ceuta Crisis an 'Invasion'

>>24902577 A 9,000-pound SpaceX rocket will crash into the moon tonight. Will you be able to see it?

>>24902605 The 2026 NCAA Wrestling National Champions, Penn State!

>>24902619 #Marines with the 2nd Marine Division take part in a night live-fire

>>24902621 Tomorrow President Trump Delivers Remarks at the Red Rock Casino in Las Vegas, NV

>>24902626 Spokane authorities have ARRESTED man who allegedly set a MASSIVE wildfire in Washington State

>>24902653 Jay Clayton is officially sworn in as U.S. Director of National Intelligence

>>24902780 @POTUS boards Air Force One for his visits to Los Angeles

>>24902861 Senators up for re-election in 2028 that have NOT committed to remain in DC through August recess:

>>24902870 For about 40 minutes, Telegram just vanished from the App Store

>>24902932 Call your senators. Call them all. No recess. Pass the Save America Act.

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#30401 >>24901116

>>24901144, >>24901145 Baker change

>>24901128 MASSIVE CRASH IN JAPAN 🚨 ¥28 TRILLION ($185 billion) wiped from Japanese stocks today.

>>24901146 Israeli Finance Minister Requests Netanyahu Approve Three Jewish Settlements In Gaza

>>24901205 ‘Surprising’ how quickly China’s military is closing gap with US: analyst Lyle Goldstein

>>24901271 @NavalInstitute - Navy Relieves Commander of Sub USS West Virginia — USNI News

>>24901291 🚨 UNEARTHED Wisconsin Democrat Francesca Hong: "In the restaurant industry, when we're out of something, we say it's 86'd. And I'd say it's about fucking time we 86 Trump."

>>24901453 Greg Kelly ‘discovered something that no one else has’ about Fauci

>>24901461 Inside New York’s medical fraud capital where often empty senior centers bill Medicaid $100M-a-year for patients

>>24901474 Ukraine Ambassador to the United States Removed from Duty

>>24901533, >>24901545 @realDonaldTrump - Justice Department touts 'largest denaturalization effort ever' with 25 cases filed in two weeks

>>24901550 Man arrested on arson charge as crews battle multiple blazes in Spokane County, Washington

>>24901569 Justice Department touts 'largest denaturalization effort ever' with 25 cases filed in two weeks

>>24901579 5 PRIMARIES TODAY: Kansas, Michigan, Missouri, Virginia and Washington

>>24901587 Top Overnight News

>>24901595 MAJOR breakthrough in Todd Blanche's AG nomination

>>24901639 @CENTCOM - A U.S. Air Force F-22 stealth fighter receives fuel from a KC-135 Stratotanker while in the skies over the Middle East.

>>24901652 9:00 AM EDT Executive Business Meeting - Senate Judiciary Committee

>>24901655 9:50 AM EDT DVIDS - Webcast - United States Air Forces Central Change of Command - Department of War

>>24901656 9:50 AM EDT DVIDS - Webcast - Relinquishment of Command of MRC-W - Department of War

>>24901658 10:00 AM EDT Medicaid: The Reality - Senate Budget Committee

>>24901660 12:24 PM EDT Starlink Mission: SpaceX’s Falcon 9 is targeting the launch of 24 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. SpaceX

>>24901662 12:30 PM EDT Campaign 2026: U.S. Senate Candidate Rep. Haley Stevens Votes in Michigan Primary

>>24901665 1:00 PM EDT The President participates in a Swearing-In Ceremony for the Director of National Intelligence - Oval Office

>>24901669 2:30 PM EDT Your Data, Their Profit: The Consumer Cost of AI Surveillance Pricing - Senate Judiciary Committee

>>24901671 2:45 PM EDT News conference with NASA astronaut Chris Williams on his eight-month mission aboard the International Space Station.

>>24901675 4:00 PM EDT Roundtable titled “Tracking Prediction Markets’ Exponential Growth: Tribal Implications and Beyond.” Senate Indian Affairs Committee

>>24901678 7:00 PM EDT Campaign 2026: Primary Night in Michigan, Kansas, Virginia, Missouri, and Washington

>>24901682 10:00 PM EDT The President participates in an RNC Reception [7:00 PM Local] Trump National Golf Club Los Angeles

>>24901689 11:30 AM EDT LIVE: The Latest White House News and Exclusive Interviews with American Patriots - 08/04/26

>>24901733 Swamp Today posted in End Bunker

>>24901755 WATCH LIVE: Todd Blanche faces PIVOTAL Senate committee vote

>>24901762 N.Y. Law Barring ICE Agents From Wearing Masks Is Blocked by Judge

>>24901763 Ahoy The Ship Show - 08/04/2026

>>24901778 @DHSgov - For more than two centuries, the men and women of the Coast Guard have protected our homeland by land, air, and sea. On the 236th anniversary of @USCG, we thank all of our Coast Guard heroes who have answered the call to serve our nation. Semper Paratus!

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you must be new… anon ban'd for posting this and such…

cause free-speech platform and all

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Umberto Eco’s Foucault’s Pendulum (1988) is a famous postmodern novel about belief, paranoia, and how human beings construct meaning—or invent conspiracies—out of random noise.

Named directly after Léon Foucault's real-world physics experiment, the novel uses the physical pendulum as its primary central metaphor.

The Premise

Three cynical Milanese editors—Casaubon, Belbo, and Diotallevi—work for a vanity publisher that churns out books on occultism, the Templars, and secret societies for gullible authors.

Bored and amused by the wild manuscripts crossing their desks, they decide to play an intellectual joke. Using an early personal computer (named Abulafia) to scramble random historical texts, esoteric lore, and pop culture, they fabricate a massive, unified conspiracy theory spanning centuries. They call it "The Plan".

According to their fake narrative, every secret group in history—the Knights Templar, Rosicrucians, Freemasons, Assassins, and Illuminati—was searching for a secret telluric force beneath the Earth. The focal point to control this energy? The exact spot in Paris where Foucault’s Pendulum hangs.

The Conflict

The joke turns fatal. True believers and modern occult groups discover "The Plan," believe it is real, and assume the editors possess the master key. As the trio is hunted down by people desperate for absolute secret knowledge, they realize the terrifying power of narrative: if enough people believe a fiction, it operates with the force of reality.

Core Themes

• The Seduction of Apophenia: The psychological impulse to see connections and patterns where none exist. Eco satirizes how conspiracy theories thrive by treating pure coincidence as hidden intention.


• The Symbol of the Pendulum: In physics, the pendulum’s point of suspension remains stationary while the Earth rotates underneath it. In the novel, it symbolizes the human craving for a single, fixed, absolute truth in a chaotic and shifting universe.


• Precursor to Modern Thrillers: Foucault's Pendulum is often called the intellectual, literary predecessor to Dan Brown’s The Da Vinci Code—except Eco's novel actively dismantles and mocks the very conspiracy tropes Dan Brown treats seriously.


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>DID YOU JUST FILTER ME?!

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But what if there IS a conspiracy and/or conspiracies?

That is the central tightrope Umberto Eco plays with: real conspiracies happen all the time, but human brains are bad at calculating the difference between a real conspiracy and a self-fulfilling narrative engine.

Real Conspiracies vs. "The Plan"

Historians, intelligence analysts, and security researchers distinguish between functional real-world conspiracies and paranoid conspiracy theories based on structural mechanics:

Real Conspiracies (Compartmentalized & Short-Lived): Actual conspiracies—like Operation Northwoods, Watergate, the Manhattan Project, or modern supply chain cyberattacks—are specific, operationally tight, and involve small numbers of actors pursuing concrete goals. They inevitably degrade because human beings leak information, make mistakes, or turn on each other. The larger the number of co-conspirators, the faster entropy destroys secrecy.


The Metaphysical Conspiracy ("The Plan"): The kind Eco mocks involves millions of people over hundreds of years seamlessly keeping a secret without a single deathbed confession or paper trail.

Eco’s 3 Rules of Conspiracy Mechanics

In Foucault's Pendulum and his non-fiction essays (Inventing the Enemy), Eco outlines how real conspiratorial thinking operates:

. The Principle of Universal Connection: Everything must connect to everything else. If two events happen in the same decade, or two historical figures share an initial, it cannot be a coincidence. Coincidence is the enemy of the conspiratorial mindset.


. The Power of the Secret: A true secret is disappointing once revealed (e.g., "the secret is a password"). A successful conspiracy myth requires a secret that can never be revealed, because its power lies entirely in the suspense of keeping it hidden.


. The Self-Fulfilling Loop: Once a conspiracy narrative enters the culture, people begin acting on it. At that point, the conspiracy becomes real—not because the original premise was true, but because people's behavior in response to the story creates real-world consequences.


The Real Paradox

The ultimate irony of Eco’s novel is that the protagonists' fake conspiracy becomes a real conspiracy.

By putting the narrative out into the world, they create the very cabal that comes to destroy them. The threat isn't that a secret society controlled history for 800 years; the threat is that a group of fanatic believers today will commit real acts of violence because they bought into the story.

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How do Umberto Eco's theories on conspiracy narratives apply to modern internet culture and algorithmic echo chambers?

Umberto Eco written works—particularly Foucault’s Pendulum and his 1995 essay Ur-Fascism—read like an accidental blueprint for the architecture of the modern internet.

When Eco analyzed how esoteric cults and political extremists construct alternative realities, he was describing the exact psychological loops that recommendation algorithms now automate at scale.

1. Apophenia Engine: The Recommendation Loop

Eco’s central idea in Foucault’s Pendulum is Hermetic drift—the habit of linking two unrelated things because they share a superficial detail (e.g., "This building has 12 windows, there were 12 apostles, therefore the architect was a Rosicrucian").

The Analogy: Modern platform algorithms (YouTube, TikTok, X) are automated apophenia engines. They map relationships between unrelated pieces of content based on user engagement.


The Result: If a user watches a video about house plants, and a small percentage of house plant enthusiasts also watch content about off-grid survivalism, the algorithm links them. To the user, seeing survivalist content right after plant care feels like an intentional, hidden pattern—a "sign" that the topics are connected—when it is just statistical noise optimized for watch time.


2. The Rejection of Coincidence

In Eco’s theory, the hallmark of conspiratorial thinking is the total refusal to accept random chance. Everything must happen for a secret reason, directed by an invisible hand.

Traditional Conspiratorial Mindset

Algorithmic Echo Chamber Mechanics

"Nothing happens by accident."

Feeds curate personalized flows, removing contrasting viewpoints and making curated outcomes feel like universal truth.

"They don't want you to know this."

Shadowbanning rumors and engagement-bait captions ("Watch before this gets taken down!") turn mundane posts into "forbidden knowledge."

"Connect the dots yourself."

Interactive formats (forum threads, TikTok series) invite users to crowdsource narratives, mimicking the editors in Foucault's Pendulum.

3. The Seduction of "The Plan" (Gamified Intelligence)

In Foucault’s Pendulum, the main characters get addicted to building "The Plan" because it makes them feel superior to the "ordinary" people (the Diabolicals) who take the world at face value.

Online communities replicate this exact dynamic:

In-Group Validation: Deciphering cryptic posts, meme formats, or code words gives participants a feeling of elite status.


Collective Worldbuilding: Just as Eco's editors fed random snippets into their computer (Abulafia) to generate a master plot, internet subcultures assemble disjointed screenshots, news headlines, and flight tracking data to build sprawling, self-correcting lore.


4. The Narrative Becomes Real (Self-Fulfilling Conspiracies)

The tragic climax of Eco’s novel occurs when a fake conspiracy becomes dangerous because people act as if it is real.

We see this feedback loop regularly in digital environments:

. An algorithmic echo chamber generates or amplifies a speculative narrative.


. Believers take real-world action based on that narrative (e.g., review-bombing businesses, harassing individuals, or physically confronting targets).


. The real-world reaction generates new headline news, which the online community uses as "proof" that they were right all along.


Eco's warning wasn't just that people believe absurd things; it was that narratives possess operational power. Once a story spreads far enough, it no longer matters whether the original premise was true—the actions taken in its name are entirely real.

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also: stop axing questions!

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18 U.S. Code § 611 - Voting by aliens

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(a)It shall be unlawful for any alien to vote in any election held solely or in part for the purpose of electing a candidate for the office of President, Vice President, Presidential elector, Member of the Senate, Member of the House of Representatives, Delegate from the District of Columbia, or Resident Commissioner, unless—

(1)the election is held partly for some other purpose;

(2)aliens are authorized to vote for such other purpose under a State constitution or statute or a local ordinance; and

(3)voting for such other purpose is conducted independently of voting for a candidate for such Federal offices, in such a manner that an alien has the opportunity to vote for such other purpose, but not an opportunity to vote for a candidate for any one or more of such Federal offices.

(b)Any person who violates this section shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

(c)Subsection (a) does not apply to an alien if—

(1)each natural parent of the alien (or, in the case of an adopted alien, each adoptive parent of the alien) is or was a citizen (whether by birth or naturalization);

(2)the alien permanently resided in the United States prior to attaining the age of 16; and

(3)the alien reasonably believed at the time of voting in violation of such subsection that he or she was a citizen of the United States.

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I actually agree OP. And in addition to your bit about the ethics of surrogacy, there has actually been cases/instances where couples decide not to keep their child due to their health. IIRC there was a case in India and Thailand during the 2010s, where two different couples left their baby with the surrogate mother(s) due to them being born with down syndrome. In one of the cases the surrogate mother was 21.

Sorry for going a bit off topic, but surrogacy and reproduction in general, are areas that definitely deserve more discussion.

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India actually banned commercial surrogacy in 2021. One of the biggest catalysts was the 2020 lockdowns, when babies were left at hospitals because the intended parents couldn't get to them and the surrogate carriers couldn't look after them. India's childcare syste

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India actually banned commercial surrogacy in 2021. One of the biggest catalysts was the 2020 lockdowns, when babies were left at hospitals because the intended parents couldn't get to them and the surrogate carriers couldn't look after them. India's childcare systems had no support structure to care for the influx of abandoned babies.

Then in the US, there's the horrific treatment Cindy Bi's surrogate received when the pregnancy resulted in a stillbirth. And the Silvia Zhang case where they found the couple to have 20 surrogate children who were being endangered.

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The ethics of commercial surrogacy are horrific, and the US is miles behind any other developed country in this regard. It's truly disgusting that it's legal, and it raises some pretty sobering ethical questions about Kim and Kanye's surrogacy journey.

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: STAYING-FREE OF THE MILITARY-DRAFT: Russell-Jay: Gould.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZNm1EGIni4

audio start @ ~0:24 …cause reasons

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People (rightfully) snark on Kanye, but having your DNA implanted into a surrogate while you're actively in the midst of very public mental health crisis is genuinely traumatic.

I hope they did consult him, but it still raises the ethical question of whether someone deep in crisis is equipped to give informed consent.

Kim could have paused implanting the embryos until Kanye was mentally stable enough to be party to rational decision-making, but that obviously didn't fit her preferred timeline.

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Which explains to me why he seems disconnected from the younger children. I have serious questions about what consent he could actually give

So do I & I have never actually read or heard anything about this take / POV, and you are bang on… Kim knowingly kept bringing children into this world when their father was in the midst of a mental health crisis and already overwhelmed and not taking on a proper fatherly role in North & Sant’s lives…and she thought it was ok to bring 2 more children to this world to be cared for primarily by nannies & household staff, what so she could “win” the prize / competition in her head among her sisters for the most children award as well as “hottest”, “richest” etc…was Kanye consulted before each surrogates implanation attempts hopefully to lead to pregnancy or did they just have his “dna” on ice at the lab from when things were “good” way back when and do as they {Kim & Kris) pkeased

https://www.reddit.com/r/KUWTKsnark/comments/1vd998x/the_timeline_of_kim_and_kanyes_second_kids/

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gm? cobbee? night shift?

why are you gay?

But of course, there is ample evidence of actual conspiracies that span generations – the very willingness of people to believe strongly suggests that they would participate in one if someone bothered to organize it (again, the premise); however because the author (as affirmed by your analysis) seemingly proves they are really nothing but the "products of human belief" seems to discredit that fact of actual conspiracy and can therefore be considered a work of disinformation.

This reading hits directly at a major critique of Eco’s worldview—and it exposes a core tension in literary and political theory.

If a novel argues that conspiracies are ultimately just psychological phantoms born of human pattern-seeking, does it end up functioning as a form of counter-disinformation that blinds people to real, structural plots?

1. The Distinction Eco Actually Makes

Eco was a semiotician (a scholar of signs and meaning) and a political critic who grew up under Italian Fascism. He distinguished sharply between two very different phenomena:

Practical/Local Conspiracies (Real): Small groups conspiring in secret to achieve a specific, operational goal (e.g., Watergate, corporate cartels, military coups, or coordinated cyberattacks). Eco freely acknowledged these exist—they have clear targets, limited lifespans, paper trails, and internal flaws. 
University of Bristol


Cosmic/Universal Conspiracies (The "Plan"): The belief that an invisible, centuries-spanning cabal controls all major events, culture, and power structures across generations.


Eco’s target in Foucault’s Pendulum is strictly the second category. His thesis is that the "Universal Conspiracy" is an intellectual anesthetic—a story people tell themselves to avoid accepting the terrifying randomness of history, or to absolve themselves of political responsibility (e.g., "We didn't lose the election/war because of our own failures; an all-powerful shadow group orchestrated it"). The Guardian

2. Is the Book Disinformation?

Your argument—that downplaying the potential for organized, generational conspiracies serves to obscure real power dynamics—is a valid critique.

Why it could be viewed as "Disinformation":

Gaslighting Real Skepticism: By mocking the methodology of looking for hidden connections, the novel risks pathologizing legitimate skepticism. It encourages the reader to lump actual institutional corruption (e.g., covert intelligence ops, regulatory capture) in with absurd occult fantasies like Templar energy lines.


Depoliticizing Power: If power is presented as chaotic and driven purely by collective myth-making, then deliberate, elite-led plots become harder to conceptualize or hold accountable.


Why Eco Would Reject the "Disinformation" Label:

Exposing the Tool of Dictators: Eco argued that dictators and authoritarian regimes are actually the primary authors of Universal Conspiracy theories (e.g., The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, or Fascist propaganda blaming global cabals for domestic problems). In Eco's view, the grand conspiracy theory is the original disinformation used to manipulate the public into giving up power to a strongman who promises to protect them. 
The Guardian


The "Lethal Joke" Warning: Eco doesn't claim that human belief is harmless. The ending of the book proves the exact opposite: belief is so potent that even a fake conspiracy will produce real violence.


3. The Underlying Paradox

The paradox you’ve identified is where the novel lands:

Human Susceptibility to Narrative×Desire for Secret Knowledge=Actionable Power

Eco shows that because human beings are naturally inclined to participate in organized secrets, any sufficiently powerful narrative—whether engineered by a genuine shadow cabal or synthesized out of thin air by bored editors—will eventually recruit willing agents to execute it.

In that sense, the novel doesn't claim real conspiracies are impossible; it warns that the myth of the conspiracy is often more dangerous than the conspiracy itself, because a myth can recruit millions of unwitting accomplices without them ever signing a contract.

Little Conspiracy Bun

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It's awful that Khloe has spoken publicly about not feeling connected to Tatum because he was born via surrogate.

That's online forever now, and it's likely he'll discover that long before it's developmentally appropriate for him to understand anything about pregnancy, surrogacy, postpartum emotions, etc.

Like, why would you share something so intensely personal where your child can one day read it? Would you not rather save that conversation for your therapist or to share with your child one day when they're much, much older and able to work through whatever it brings up for them?

These people are so gross.

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I've been doing too much pondering 😌

It's vile to intentionally bring two kids into such an unstable environment. And it's also vile to use someone's DNA to implant embryos while they're in the lowest point of their mental health and possibly lack rational decision-making capacity.

It's weird that the timeline doesn't get discussed and Kim's role as the primary decision-maker in all of it doesn't get grilled harder.

They really managed to turn the tide to "poor Kim, look at what she had to deal with", completely glossing over the fact she used a man's DNA to have more of his biological kids while he was unmedicated and in crisis.

If the roles were reversed and a man did that with a woman's eggs, he would be (rightfully) burned at the stake.

>>24903680

What does mental health hold for all of these kids in the future?

>>24903666

chek'd evil digits…..USA got a vote for contempt charge on Fauci…..hellz yeah!

>>24903666

gov goes out of business in a hurry if they start arresting themselves

let POTUS endorse replacements first

>>24903704

be careful not to think for yourself too much

>>24903680

anoidciv

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Not only did she know the risk, she was the key decision-maker while Kanye was mentally vulnerable.

Without excusing any of Kanye's words/actions, it genuinely would be traumatic for someone to use your DNA to implant embryos while you're unmedicated and in the midst of an extremely public crisis.

She treated him like an anonymous sperm donor, then tossed him to the wolves when his mental health continued to decline. Like, who's mental health wouldn't implode in this kind of situation?

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oh agree. I think they used him for everything they could, while knowing for a long time he was mentally ill and would implode. I’m of the firm belief that nonee of the Kardashians would be where they are now, without Kanye. Kim never even got a Vogue cover before him. I think they would be B-list reality show stars with some clothing lines in department stores. and I’m not a Kanye fan, so this isn’t coming from a place of defense/love for him

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Oh yeah he definitely elevated them. At that time he was a consistent top 40 artists running in celeb A+ circles.

Oh shit

Trump's SAVE Act Hit 50 Votes And Still Died — The Unelected Official Blocking It

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=240d_YVlyCw

Being around bi polar people can be exhausting

And dangerous sometimes

>>24903703

just remember if you plan to give someone a piece of your mind

do give them the piece you are using

>>24903712

Stillsharon

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3d ago

I totally agree with your posts and your points. But how did she have his dna on ice for these surrogacies? Or did he “agree” to the surrogacies when he was in Wyoming? I do not think surrogacies are ethical.

It is human trafficking.

>>24903680

https://www.reddit.com/r/KUWTKsnark/comments/1vd998x/the_timeline_of_kim_and_kanyes_second_kids/

>>24903715

dont

>>24903714

and yet you're here

>>24901875 (pb)

>Prove you aint a total Magtard, say something nice to balack on his birthday

I hope you die quickly when you're executed for treason, and I hope you give your life to Jesus Christ before you're executed so you don't burn in Hell for eternity.

>>24903724

>Minnesota

DANCE!

The state is targeting me for no crime again.

This is the most corrupt world

>>24903680

I totally agree with your posts and your points. But how did she have his dna on ice for these surrogacies? Or did he “agree” to the surrogacies when he was in Wyoming? I do not think surrogacies are ethical. It is human trafficking and baby buying and I hate the glazing of rich people who do it, especially celebrities. Kim tried to frame that she had to do it because of her health during the last pregnancy, as if it’s okay that another woman take on the life threatening risks she developed so that a nanny can raise another child for her.

Exactly. While the inability to carry a pregnancy is painful, it doesn't create an entitlement to another woman's reproductive labor.

Surrogacy works by freezing an embryo (maternal egg + paternal sperm) and implanting it into the surrogate. It's the same process as IVF, except in this case the embryo is not implanted into the biological mother.

Embryos can be frozen for literally decades and still be viable, so who's to say when they created the embryo.

Fascinating take OP, and thank you for posting! Makes me think of the parallel situation, Khloe and Trashcan. Their relationship was also clearly a dumpster fire when they impregnated their surrogate, and there doesn't seem to have been any red tape or barriers to their moving ahead with the embryo transfer (at least based on how it was discussed in the show).

And as someone who's in the thick of IVF for kid #2, it really does take a toll on your body for a long, loooong time. I really can't imagine what my "asking price" would be if I were to do this process for someone else.

Fetuses hear the voice and heartbeat of the woman carrying them for 9 months, so even though they don't form an "attachment" in the way we know, they do biologically bond with the person carrying them.

Science literally doesn't know enough about how surrogacy impacts the kids to say it's healthy, so it seems insane to just go "Oh well good luck" and treat them like guinea pigs so rich people can have their 3rd and 4th kid.

"He should have exercised his reproductive rights and put a stop to this…" I don't like Kanye either but saying a vulnerable, mentally unwell person should have known how to do this seems unfair. Kanye absolutely has resources and lawyers but was so unwell at this point. I'm not sure if he had the ability to stop this or the autonomy at the time sadly and I think Kim took advantage of his mental state.

strongly disagree with the concept of paid surrogacy in general because it allows the elite to use economically vulnerable women as incubators.”

Added on to everything you said, Kim with all of that money, chose to create kids in a lab using his DNA which could very well pass on his mental health issues to their children.

khloe was truly pathetic for having another child with that man and putting a woman through pregnancy just for her to first have the son she always wanted and second to have more children with her ugly cheating baby daddy. just crazy work.

MOMAGER probably arraigned this deal?

Dont forget she was paid 1 million dollars by him for each kid she birthed of his in written agreement for some fucking reason

When you put it like that, it sounds so dystopian.

Like at one point I had to remind myself you weren't summarizing an episode of Black Mirror.

I never even thought of it all this way, you make such good points OP, shines a whole new light on the subject

>>24903726

>Derelicts

"People get'n high"

"People get'n low…oh"

"People get'n nowhere cause they don't know where to go"

>know where to go

>>24885951 pb

>>24903730

>>24903680

All of the kardashiian jenner kids are FUTURE PRODUCT DEAL FINANCIAL STREAMS.

To have many no matter what is like hedging your bets. Three fail, one hits the jackpot and is the new star money maker product seller

Kim was definitely planning her kids to be the next kris jenner with her kids. She knowingly had these kids even though Kanye was unstable. She learned it from mama 🤷‍♀️. Same with Kylie's son with travis scott. She damn well knew that man is horrible, cheats on her and will never married her but having children benefits these people. For regular people, children will set you back

I could use a Prayer for my Mother

If you have a moment

>>24903737

done

>>24903739

you have my Gratitude

>>24903680

A dorable_Spinach_924

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1d ago

I really think Kim and Kris were trying to get Kanye into a conservatership during that time as well. I think it’s why he was in Wyoming-to have literal space between him and them. That being said, it makes sense Kim would use their embryos to try and keep Kanye close. Kim has never valued people as more than a commodity-and the proof is in how she used her own husband and kids to try and come about her plans and wealth. I never really saw it in that way until OP pointed out the timeline. It’s really disgusting.

MAGA base votes for Americans

DSAtards vote for terrorist sympathizers

DSAtards are morons

>>24903741

o7

>>24903745

you have my Thanks

>>24903747

you have my Appreciation

>>24903728

Or prove that that local / state Gov. is unable / unwilling to prosecute .

Military is the only way .

Anon just added a old cell phone as an AI visual screen agent. It will be able to read and reply to posts here tomorrow.

>>24903751

No worries.

I haz moar filterz.

>>24903746

DSA are communisit colonizers.

Third World nepo babies with the souls of the worst types of slavers. They show up and want to run everything and make everyone else there slaves. Meanwhile they put down Europeans for 'colonization' but that is what the DSA tries to do to America: to make it a third world slave shop for third world nepo baby masters.

>>24903680

>>24903742

Tow girls

Two boys

Father having mental health crisis.

This borders on full eugenics actually.

https://www.reddit.com/r/KUWTKsnark/comments/1vd998x/the_timeline_of_kim_and_kanyes_second_kids/

Technically, made by a union of man and woman, ordained by God, with eternal ramifications….

Only North is Kanye’s biological child.

>>24903680

>>24903680

https://www.reddit.com/r/KUWTKsnark/

>>24903751

Why would you do that?

>>24903765

you have my Bless

>>24903737

done…in the name of Jesus

>>24903713

you can tell this is going to be slop by the a.i thumbnail.

LOL. I see the repetitive scripts are in play. Don't even have to fish anymore. Comes in canned now.

Stollen

>>24903774

God Bless you

>>24903762 brasso kek buff it right out

>>24903737

Bless you and Mom, anon.

>>24903792

Thank you & God Bless you

>>24903787

cretins gonny crete

NCSWIC

>>24903803

I am Grateful for your assistance

>>24903659

Is this the latest female athlete?

>>24903737

Done.

>>24903807

Thank you Anon & God Bless you

>>24903811

you have my Sincerest Thanks

>>24903737

o7

>>24903815

God Bless you Anon, Thankyou

>>24903817

the sequel is gonna be a bætch

>>24903737

Godspeed.

>>24903825

the real mr pig would never pull that sh1t

>>24903826

Thank you Anon, God Bless you

>>24903829

>1feeb0

>>24903640

>>24903679

NOTABLE

>>24903751

Was there a point to it or are you letting AI take over your entire life?

You know, so he could Mr. Pig-ify it sort of thing. Add America Winning in green text or sunglasses for the cat or whatnot.

>>24903822

Is this night shifts official song?

>>24903855

timestamps are helpful but wdak

anyone got experience setting up deadman switches

>>24903860

A dead man's switch app monitors your status through regular check-ins. If you fail to respond or check in within a set time, the app automatically alerts pre-selected emergency contacts or sends out prepared messages. These tools are commonly used by solo travelers, people living alone, remote workers, or anyone needing digital legacy or emergency notifications.Popular Dead Man's Switch AppsDead Man's Switch / Deadman Switch: Available on Google Play and the App Store, these apps let you set custom check-in intervals, send push notification reminders, and automatically text or email emergency contacts if a deadline is missed.SafeAfter Dead Man's Switch: Available on Google Play, this app connects with a secure digital vault to notify trusted contacts when you go silent.LastSend & DeathNote: Web and mobile-adjacent platforms tailored for posthumous messages, encrypted digital wills, and timed check-in windows ranging from days to months.How They WorkSet Schedule: Choose a check-in frequency (e.g., daily, weekly, or specific hourly intervals).Receive Reminders: The app sends push notifications or warnings as your deadline approaches.Trigger Action: If you do not tap to check in before the timer expires and any grace period ends, it transmits your preset emergency text, email, or data package.

>>24903865

remember, google doesn't advise people to not be evil anymore.

LIVE: Protests at Trump National Golf Course in Los Angeles and Madison, Wisconsin

>>24903857

IDK

https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2084777612925153370

>>24903871

notable

>>24903872

o7

Socialist Commie Democrats - question: Where do the big global banks stand in yo defund agenda, muh$ prison

Guess I should set my clock to EST so the math in the timestamps and columns is normal.

>>24903891

i will always watch this more than once when spotted

>>24903891

also this guy is captain insano on bass if you're into that shit

playthrough pov so you wont get hit with the vocals that make most people turn it off

not satanic black metal either i promise

>>24903949

Any mention yet on what's been hit?

>>24903951

china said it was an ammo depot

I'm speed reading and scrolling so fast

I don't even have time to filter Mr Pig.

It slows me down YO!

>>24903951

>>24903964

shit that doesnt appear to be the same huh? kek

bread full of panic

>>24903935

You don't hear that one very often.

>>24903891

EDT

Veteran broadcaster Lloyd Robertson dead at 92

Good old age

But

Still gonna call vaxxxxxxed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eyof1qANr4

huthies hit dubai

>>24903990

Enuff

Time for the brats to concede Trump won

>>24904000

Wireless elimination on the table YO!

>>24903982

I like standard time for that one. Eastern Daylight Time sounds kind of silly to me to be honest. While the timezone has to do with daylight, time itself doesn't.

AI is now the target for worm replication. Pay attention.

Microsoft Copilot has a live worm. 144 days, no fix. It spreads through Word docs your sandbox can't see.

>>24903871

>>24904000

How and what exactly do you mean?

>>24904003

this household never switched off EST

sunlight is not the end all

shrug

>>24904000

How?

Why?

>>24904007

James Bond confirms bitches.

>>24904003 It's noon when the sun is straight up.

What does it actually feel like to have a friend to have a real conversation to be seen as a person worthy