/a/ - Animu & Mango

>>954326

Scanlation https://w15.readheroacademia.com/manga/boku-no-hero-academia-chapter-267/

No love for Setsuna?

OH NO NO NO NO

>>954484

You do realize that Boku no Hero Academia is a shonen right?

You do realize that Shonen is a Japanese term for boys between the ages of 8 and 18, right?

You do realize that young teenage boys are the exact target demographic of shonen anime and manga, right?

So you are bothered by the fact that a shonen anime that is made for the teen boy demographic is doing its intended purpose of having an audience of said demographic?

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>>954492

Cope.

>>954491

>You do realize that Boku no Hero Academia is a shonen right?

Yes.

>You do realize that Shonen is a Japanese term for boys between the ages of 8 and 18, right?

Not necessarily.

>You do realize that young teenage boys are the exact target demographic of shonen anime and manga, right?

Not always. That doesn't mean shonen series can't cater to adults. YYH, Naruto, and DBZ for example all appeal to adults and all have dark themes and storylines. MHA is literally zoomerbabbies first manga. There are no stakes, nothing is on the line because there is no death. It is basically Marvel capeshit in 2D unironically.

>So you are bothered by the fact that a shonen anime that is made for the teen boy demographic is doing its intended purpose of having an audience of said demographic?

I'm bothered by the grown men on twitter and on here watching it. To me watching MHA post-hideout raid arc is akin to watching Teen Titans GO.

>decide to check cuckchan because this faggot reminded me it exists

>the bnha thread is mostly deku bakugo gay shipping and bakugo ochako shipping and other series avatarfags acting superior

Is this how it feels to live in the 40k universe?

>>954494

>Dark themes

>Appealing to adults

>In super sand lesbian beam struggles and screaming where the author has characters pair up solely for the purpose of having children and death simply not being a problem as long as they win in the end.

The only adults who seriously watch DBZ above the age of the target audience are man-children jerking themselves off over power levels and nostalgia-fags.

I mean you could even go for FMA,Death Note or HxH like you posted for normalfag-tier ,but reasonable examples.

>MHA is literally zoomerbabbies first manga. There are no stakes, nothing is on the line because there is no death. It is basically Marvel capeshit in 2D unironically.

BNHA was at the right time and place and started off and progressed quickly before the Yakuza arc and baggage brought by the Joint Training arc. It wasn't amazing, but it filled the hole left behind by Naruto while making it feel like stuff was happening quickly, while catering to the superhero craze that still plagues this world that normal-fags were already familiar with.

Chodemonkey let me post

>>954494

>YYH, Naruto, and DBZ for example all appeal to adults

Why are you like this?

>It is basically Marvel capeshit in 2D unironically.

STOP THE PRESSES EVERYBODY

>>954126

Mina expands my donger like no other girl

>>954603

>but DBZ is clearly targeted to an older audience.

Nigger, DB was published by Shonen Jump and the Buu saga I wouldn't describe as anything except "targeted to an older audience".

The entire series was built upon a story where a kid mistakes marriage for a food after patting a girl's pussy.

>All 3 are just as normalfag tier unless you're talking about HxH 1999.

So are Naruto and DBZ(Hell,I'd argue even moreso), do you lack reading comprehension?

DBZ or any of the big three are not the first thing that come to mind for maturity and don't really deserve the moniker of "serious and mature",.I merely provided examples you could have used to not look like that much of a faggot.

HxH deals with unpleasant aspects and occasionally dips into people being horrible to each other and is unafraid to show it.Like that setup for Gyro that still hasn't been followed up on.

FMA delves into the subject of race war,human experimentation, forgiveness, equivalent exchange and regret. Not with the nuance or gravity the situation deserves, but it still looks into those things with some seriousness.

Death Note is about how power corrupts and the implications of someone being able to kill using solely a name and a face in a somewhat realistic setting.

What do Naruto and DBZ have to put on the table? Hard work trumps all? Only those who can turn SSJ can achiveve anything of note?

All problems can only be (eventually) solved with overwhelming power? Is any character analyzed in detail or treated realistically?

>Naruto and DBZ are both more mature

Because farting to someone's face to throw them off is mature and thought provoking.

>Go back to cuckchan.

I was explaining why it managed to garner the following it had, the reason MHA managed to get as much of a following as it did was being at the right place at the right time, with enough corresponding elements to thrive in a MCU crazed world.

Whether it manages to keep it's audience after the current super-hero bubble has burst depends on how well/purely it can resolve the plots it set up. And how soon it gets out of the fucking school setting without completely shitting itself.

>954484

>954494

>954603

>made me check

>same filename

>same serieswar speak

>tells others to go back to cuckchannel

Hang yourself, cuckchanneler nigger

>>954609

Report, hide and move on, you fucking imbecile, stop feeding this literal clown (You)'s

BNHA is an exploration of the individual, society and their relation to each other. Actually superpowers are hardly thematically relevant and peeling the skin off of ebin pewpew powers they represent what is unique about individual people and their variety represents differences in social class, economic class, race, inborn intelligence and physicality, interests. etc. You could say its shallow but pick a social or individualistic issue and you will most likely find a quirk that relates to that.

Aoyama is a narcissist that deep down desires to make friends and dazzle others, said narcissism makes him seem odd and pushes people away. This is represented by his quirk shining bright and being beautiful but dangerous, uncontrollable at times and hurts him most of all. This is a side character by the way.

Its a shame because this series has so much going for it yet to normalfag niggers it all flies over their head and people who love to hate on the series always dismiss this.

Also Miku only dances when I type or interact with the page, one letter is one frame. Cute.

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>>954629

Yes, everyone who has a different opinion than you who dare criticizes your favorite children's show is aiming to garner attention. The utter psychology of zoomers.

>>954626

You're hardcore overanalyzing My Hero Academia. Reading it, all I could think about was how Horikoshi basically copied the story of Naruto while adding some capes in there and calling it a day. He's a hack.

Midoriya for example is a total loser who obtains Jesus powers, just like Naruto. His rival (Bakugo) is edgy fujo bait and only wants to be better than the main character, just like Sasuke. His love interest (Ochako) is interested in the rival, just like Sakura. Like it's not even subtle, it is straight up plagiarism. I won't even mention the obvious copying of the story arcs.

The truth is MHA will never live up to the greatness that was Naruto. Shigaraki will never be Orochimaru. All Might will never be Jiraiya. Aizawa will never be Kakashi. etc. Deal with it.

>>954626

If the focus was on individuals with quirks as a whole, with heroes being a side-thing,I'd agree.

Unfortunately super-heroes are the front and center, with everyone being about heroes and villains.

Practically everyone in the manga wants to be or do something to heroes, their weight is overstated or the series is sugarcoating the idea of the world being a crime-ridden hellhole or analyzing the relationship between an individual and the society they live in.If it was as something as complex as that, the main cast would be from a variety of backgrounds and fields without relation to heroing.

The plot is pushing for Izuku to follow up on All Might to being the solution to all of society's problems, multiple quirks allowing him to fulfill a variety of roles better than his mentor points to this.

>>954667

>His love interest (Ochako) is interested in the rival

NTR doujins aren't canon, anon.

>>954670

It almost like heroes are the forefront of hero society as its clearest representation of the current status of the world. And its almost like people who don't fit into the strict expectations of society in regard to heroes are outcast in some shape or form. Heroes are mostly similar because they are supposed to fit in a uniformed mold whiles anti-heroes and villains have way more leeway when it comes to character and background. This isn't even something unique to BNHA. And its not like the series doesn't try to make interesting heroes. Most notably Hawks and Endeavor. Heroes and villains being center of it means shit as an argument against it when its been all about what makes a normal person stumble down these paths. Plus shit like the Liberation Army exists and is based around a people led movement and not muh police and criminals.

The main cast generally sucks dick and their only shine when outside their field of hero obedience. Like when Deku circumvented the tournament to get through Todoroki's thick skull or how they constantly disregard the law. Heroes suck when acting in their confinement of a role. Deku and All Might are there to show that "hero" isn't a role that has to obey those stupid rules and is supposed to act for the good of others based on the "heroic ideal" and not some arbitrary system. This might sound contradictory but my point is that the "heroes" are just government militia and Deku is there to be an example of a hero in its purest form.

Of course I'm not say everything is executed properly and Deku has hardly don't anything outside the confines of the norm since his fight with Gentle.

>The plot is pushing for Izuku to follow up on All Might to being the solution to all of society's problems, multiple quirks allowing him to fulfill a variety of roles better than his mentor points to this.

Its been made a point that not one person can fullfil the role and that All Might and Nana had made a mistake in trying to hold off evil by themselves in trying to act as a sole beacon.

This is actually besides the point holy fuck what am I even writing. Your statement is flawed to begin with because nothing says that what I described in my previous post can't exist within your perception of the story.

>>954698

When having a nuanced or handling incredibly wide spanning subjects, a large variety of backgrounds/talents/backgrounds is necessary to handle the different kinds of people it affects or sufficient analysis of the elements has to be made. This can be supplanted by analyzing characters to extreme detail, but that's not really the case.

>Plus shit like the Liberation Army exists and is based around a people led movement and not muh police and criminals.

The fact that the MLA exists for the reasons it does is undermined by how easily they are beaten and how they fold over to Shiggy as easily as they did or how easily they are beaten despite being the size of a small army of "trained" individuals. In the end, they were nothing more than villains considering how easily they are discarded and worfed as Shiggy's and the LoV lackeys rather than people of their own right.

>Its been made a point that not one person can fullfil the role and that All Might and Nana had made a mistake in trying to hold off evil by themselves in trying to act as a sole beacon.

A point that's been ignored in focus of a retarded power-crawl. It wouldn't have been a problem if it didn't work, if they acknowledged how one man can't be everywhere or everything at once or the sheer scale of it. If it was serious in any capacity we'd have Izuku musing or AM lamenting on how others and themselves placed an unreasonable burden on one/multiple men because society is unwilling to truly adapt.

Heroes that buckled under continued stress, high burnout rate etc.What is lacking for that element to work is unwilligness to make the world ugly as it should be where heroes are absolutely necessary and how taxing it is for the heroes themselves. A more occasional look into places outside of Musutafu/School would make things clearer, how places outside of cities deal with the villain problem or how extremely different a quirk using society would be like. How people would have to adapt or how a patchwork of a society would be like outside the "herosphere". Robbery in broad daylight and terrorism aren't the only kind of crime that exist after all.

>This is actually besides the point holy fuck what am I even writing. Your statement is flawed to begin with because nothing says that what I described in my previous post can't exist within your perception of the story.

You aren't exactly ghostwriting LOTR yourself,anon. My point is that if that's a thing that's so far from what the series focuses on in favor of cashing into the super-hero craze. Things like HOW a villain were made should be the forefront instead of a single chapter in it's designated arc buried within dozens of school chapters of meandering around if the story was that serious.

I'm not saying that there aren't elements of what you're mentioning, but that it's constantly undermined by what's happening in the story in favor of it's average plot about a century spanning blood feud between one man and his brother's successors while being too busy sugarcoating the fact that a 6-20% crime rate in a place as tight as Japan as a minor detail outside of necessitating the heroes.

>The fact that the MLA exists for the reasons it does is undermined by how easily they are beaten and how they fold over to Shiggy as easily as they did or how easily they are beaten despite being the size of a small army of "trained" individuals. In the end, they were nothing more than villains considering how easily they are discarded and worfed as Shiggy's and the LoV lackeys rather than people of their own right.

Means jackshit. They still exist and existing to begin still proves my point. Them losing was a bit contrived but then again the LoV were elite terrorists. Means shit that they are assimilated when they still keep to their ideal.

>If it was serious in any capacity we'd have Izuku musing or AM lamenting on how others and themselves placed an unreasonable burden on one/multiple men because society is unwilling to truly adapt.

Its already been made a point of All Might's burden and how heavy it was for him and now for Deku. I hasn't been brough back in depth because Deku has been sidelined for eternity now but its still there and even if it doesn't directly get mentioned by character its still there. I think there was even a long-winded cap from here with a kirishima pic explaining it.

>What is lacking for that element to work is unwilligness to make the world ugly as it should be where heroes are absolutely necessary and how taxing it is for the heroes themselves.

It purposefully started out idealistically and basic bitch but its been going on for ages now where it slowly dismantles in glorified view and show how fucked things could get. There been drug trade, child abuse, counter-government movements, and various social negligence, etc. I just don't know what you want? Super-powered tax fraud? So exciting!

Its also been made a point that heroes are actually over-saturated plus their existence breeds social contempt which allowed people to slip through the cracks fucking hard. It isn't just robbery in broad daylight and terrorism. Like I said its not specifically about said shit but how people were molded by the world to go down this way.

> Things like HOW a villain were made should be the forefront instead of a single chapter in it's designated arc buried within dozens of school chapters of meandering around if the story was that serious.

I does the same with heroes AND its not just blip chapters you cunt. I constantly follows the life and conflicts and the personal drama of characters.

What the fuck do you mean by "that serious"? You think I'm holding this to so pedestal? Well, maybe for shone stories, yes. But I'm not saying this shit should be put in some fucking catalog of humanity's best fiction. The story works to give backdrop to its characters and conflicts and I think it does it really well. Whether you like said shit is up to you.

I agree that its focused too much of random school shit and thats probably its core issue and that there I plenty of holes its execution that have'n't been explored (yet) but otherwise what is there is good and well done.

>while being too busy sugarcoating the fact that a 6-20% crime rate in a place as tight as Japan as a minor detail outside of necessitating the heroes.

Sugarcoating? The deduction you can make is: People feel the need to express their quirks. This results in people lashing out with them. The system applies regulations to limit said use but this limitation actually increases the issue like how a person trying to hold in a shit will just shit himself harder. The system is completely unable to cope with the amount of special guidance needed for people. And a society to relies on big daddy heroes to take responsibility for people in need instead of proactively working with oddballs to work out their issues before they go under.

Basically the system has no idea how to adapt to quirks and that causes social unrest.

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>>954706

That makes two of us,anon

>>954705

>Means shit that they are assimilated when they still keep to their ideal.

I call bullshit since it's just them being completely irrelevant to Shiggy. Elite terrorists or no,100.000 trained individuals is not a piddly number that gets beaten in an arc or two. Numbers like this is endgame shit, might as well have all of Japan next arc.

>Its already been made a point of All Might's burden and how heavy it was for him and now for Deku. I hasn't been brough back in depth because Deku has been sidelined for eternity now but its still there and even if it doesn't directly get mentioned by character its still there. I think there was even a long-winded cap from here with a kirishima pic explaining it.

Only in the concept how great AM was and how relying on one man for everything is not a good idea. Not in heroing is glorifying martyr levels of self sacrifice of the individual's time in exchange for glory/money.Issue I have to assume this and think about it myself with no real prodding from the series itself. The fact that AM was more of an exception rather than the rule,since he took to the burden of other heroes with rep alone, globally.

If that was the case, we'd be seeing how heroing duties would get in the way of Endeavor's family life outside of him being an ass or a villain crashing into his son. How he simply can't have the time to properly make up for his family due being literally all day and every day on the prowl.

>It purposefully started out idealistically and basic bitch but its been going on for ages now where it slowly dismantles in glorified view and show how fucked things could get. There been drug trade, child abuse, counter-government movements, and various social negligence, etc. I just don't know what you want? Super-powered tax fraud? So exciting!

There's been single cases,the vast majority is just standard crime that's easy to show and fight. That's fine for what it is, but if it's as deep or "serious" as your post claims variety and complex/unpleasant situations are necessary to take out and analyze. Some bits or genuine bouts of cooperation/interaction/friction between heroes/police and windows into the relationship between them.

Even something like the duties and formalities of heroes outside of being celebrities lessons would have have helped.

>It constantly follows the life and conflicts and the personal drama of characters.

I constantly follows the life and conflicts and the personal drama of one character with occasional and piddly limelights on other characters that have more going on for them than the series is willing to give to the protag.

> You think I'm holding this to so pedestal?

Considering how you posted about how it analyzes individualism through Quirks like the series has the capability of being genuinely subtle or let things stand still or pay attention to genuinely unpleasant things, yes. It's fine, but it's hit kind of a rut that it's either fucking around achieving nothing or rushing it's plot developments making things feel unearned.

>Sugarcoating? The deduction you can make is: People feel the need to express their quirks. This results in people lashing out with them. The system applies regulations to limit said use but this limitation actually increases the issue like how a person trying to hold in a shit will just shit himself harder. The system is completely unable to cope with the amount of special guidance needed for people. And a society to relies on big daddy heroes to take responsibility for people in need instead of proactively working with oddballs to work out their issues before they go under.

Too bad it delves into "what is a hero/hero inspires" and glorifies it rather than analyzing how guilty people really are, the kind of shitty society it has to be to necesate the system as it is and the harrowing possibility of quirks influencing personality or providing urges besides single cases.The manga depicts most villains except the main LoV as somewhat standard power tripping, psychopathy and/or delusion.

The series simply doesn't genuinely care or can't give due to about anything else besides those directly related to the main plot while showering screen-time on things it's incredibly unlikely they'll follow up on in a satisfying manner.I'm not saying it's horrible for not focusing on the above mentioned "serious subjects", only that it can't have both ways of having genuinely deep things to say or interesting things to do while not truly dedicating anything to it due to having to be standart shounen due to fucking around for a year and a couple of arcs on questionable decisions that did nothing but drag the story on.

>Cap with kirishima.

You talking about this one?

>>954708

>Elite terrorists or no,100.000 trained individuals is not a piddly number that gets beaten in an arc or two.

Considering Shigaraki and Twice it makes sense. Of course if everyone was like Toga or Spinner sure. But Twice was a nation scale threat before his mental breakdown and Shiggy is a spreading deathfield. The MLA mistook them for murderhobos. Also the entire army wasn't there. What didn't make much sense is nobody from the League actually dying. But thats just shonen logic.

>If that was the case, we'd be seeing how heroing duties would get in the way of Endeavor's family life outside of him being an ass or a villain crashing into his son. How he simply can't have the time to properly make up for his family due being literally all day and every day on the prowl.

Well, not exactly, but there was something similar brought up on how Nana abandoned Kotaro which led to the creation of Shigaraki.

>There's been single cases,the vast majority is just standard crime that's easy to show and fight. That's fine for what it is, but if it's as deep or "serious" as your post claims variety and complex/unpleasant situa yada yada dont want to bloat the post

Its not explored in mundane encounters said kind of stuff is explored with the characters. Most villains are example of such cases. They are an extreme example and you can image many other people end up with similar circumstances but just either get captured early on or just get saved on an earlier step.

I do agree that there should be more examples though. I liked the naked banzai dude.

>I constantly follows the life and conflicts and the personal drama of one character with occasional and piddly limelights on other characters that have more going on for them than the series is willing to give to the protag.

Except the protagonist has been fucking shelves ya wank. Also here is only so much time to have consistently appearing characters and looking at everyone under a lens.

>Considering how you posted about how it analyzes individualism through Quirks like the series has the capability of being genuinely subtle or let things stand still or pay attention to genuinely unpleasant things, yes. It's fine, but it's hit kind of a rut that it's either fucking around achieving nothing or rushing it's plot developments making things feel unearned.

Just because you don't think something is enough doesn't mean shit. What I wrote is objectively true and now you are diverging into "well its not enough". It exist in the story, many a times its center focus of it and its done in a logical and respectful matter. Just because you think a character not sharing his deep dark fantasies on the couch doesn't mean said aspects don't play a significant role and are not explored to a meaningful degree.

>Too bad it delves into "what is a hero/hero inspires" and glorifies it rather than analyzing how guilty people really are, the kind of shitty society it has to be to necesate the system as it is and the harrowing possibility of quirks influencing personality or providing urges besides single cases.

Except its has done nothing but do the fucking opposite since Stain. Any glorification happens with specific character's selflessness and good nature but the system as a whole has been under constant scrutiny.

>The manga depicts most villains except the main LoV as somewhat standard power tripping, psychopathy and/or delusion.

Thats not true at all. Every villain (besides Noumu and early ones like Muscular and Moonfish) has aspects of him based on the issues with hero society that isn't just a common thug.

>The series simply doesn't genuinely care or can't give due to about anything else besides those directly related to the main plot while showering screen-time on things it's incredibly unlikely they'll follow up on in a satisfying manner.

Whats the main plot? AfO vs OfA? Because the story has been wanking its bean on everything around it for the longest time that specifically look at the shit I've been talking about.

The story spend needless amount of time on random school shit but whiles annoying that doesn't actually negate my point.

You are saying that the series isn't bad but it can be harder, better, faster, stronger. Which seems pretty fucking arbitrary to me because of course one would want something to be better.

>>954711

>Considering Shigaraki and Twice it makes sense. Of course if everyone was like Toga or Spinner sure. But Twice was a nation scale threat before his mental breakdown and Shiggy is a spreading deathfield. The MLA mistook them for murderhobos. Also the entire army wasn't there. What didn't make much sense is nobody from the League actually dying. But thats just shonen logic.

Twice makes a modicrum of sense, but he's isolated and doesn't come in until after they should all have been zerg rushed if not stomped on the ground for inferior tactics.

>Well, not exactly, but there was something similar brought up on how Nana abandoned Kotaro which led to the creation of Shigaraki.

This was standart "distancing myself so you can live a normal life and not get caught up by my feud", not "the hero system eats whoever isn't top brass alive, and even they aren't spared completely". To see it as anything else is retarded.

>Except the protagonist has been fucking shelves ya wank. Also here is only so much time to have consistently appearing characters and looking at everyone under a lens.

If only we didn't get so many group shots and class bullshit regarding characters no one truly cares about, offload backstory to spin-offs or retarded retcons.

>It exist in the story, many a times its center focus of it and its done in a logical and respectful matter.

Maybe once or twice, but I wouldn't argue it being a main point or something genuinely hanging above it. It's like saying that MP100 being an analysis about spirits and man or One Piece being a criticism on government corruption.

Those are elements,but saying they are about that as a whole is laughable.

>Thats not true at all. Every villain (besides Noumu and early ones like Muscular and Moonfish) has aspects of him based on the issues with hero society that isn't just a common thug.

Ovenhaul with something of a god complex.

I'll give you Gentle.Re-Destro is a faggot that folds his ideology and gets retconned from quirk freedom with conviction to "You're the free-est of us all dude".

Maybe if the MLA arc wasn't rushed by the end and it given room to breathe and not be get it's shit kicked at every turn I wouldn't be so bothered.For all intents and purposes they're fodder.

> Because the story has been wanking its bean on everything around it for the longest time that specifically look at the shit I've been talking about.

How exactly? Because I can't think of any genuine moments about it. I get the impression it just talks about "true heroes" while focusing on power climb,explaining some quirks,trainging and "muh OfA lore". Only thing it has is heroes and only the industry surrounding them,rarely the actual effect on society besides them bringing hope/being beloved.Oh yeah,and we got a shit-tier loli who might as well be a flower-pot due to contributing nothing until she's used like Dende again.

>You are saying that the series isn't bad but it can be harder, better, faster, stronger.

It's almost like someone is frustrated and bored with the direction of the series after being dicked around for half a decade only to drop another power crawl.I like Hori's art and girls, but my enthusiasm over this series and faith in his writing abilities has been drained by the boring mess that was the Overhaul arc. I don't hate the series, but I'm only sticking with it to know how it ends and whether it will devolve int something retarded like aliens at this point

>>954713

Well...

I couldn't really think up or be bothered enough beyond "well thats just perception bro"

>>954716

You have to be specific at what you're responding here, otherwise it's just confusing.It's not really saying anything in any case.

Not everyone can see through your eyes,that's the point of arguing in favour of your views.I fail to see the how Hori managed to make the series so that it's about individualism, society and all that deep shit over that shit being an excuse to design heroes and villains in clothes befitting their powers and personality while trying to add moral weight in generally simple fight scenes.

>>954717

I tried to explain. But was just met with "its not enough based on my standards so it doesn't count".

I can't really convince you when our core values are different. So I just want to settle with agreeing to disagree.

ur mum gay tho

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>>954862

>I mean, Tin-tin is what? Radical larry?

He's just Superman, but in the style of Hergé.

>>954881

Nekid buff Tintin is strangely unnerving.

Happy birthday, Adolf-san!

>>955123

All Mutant Types go to the Hellfire chambers.

cochinchin

>>949590

like my acutal man