>>41860
On to 2014. More of the same really, it just gets worse. Poor Kusanagi does his best.
<Jan 01 14:05:38 <KusKus> https://archive.foolz.us/a/thread/99428088/ why was this 404d
<Jan 01 14:06:00 <Axism> cause lolis?
<Jan 01 14:06:23 <KusKus> That is not a reason to 404 in /a/
<Jan 01 14:06:26 <KusKus> Loli is anime related
<Jan 01 14:06:32 <KusKus> as much as you may want to deny it
<Jan 01 14:07:06 <KusKus> Do not 404 loli threads unless they are obvious dumps or you will incur the wrath of the board
<Jan 09 11:05:49 <Kusanagi> >chuuniboyu is about young womyns struggles to be accepted by the cis white male patriarchy and overcome the oppressive japanese school life that they've been handed by escaping into their inner womyn. the entire premise of the show is about sexual liberation from white male privilege.
<Jan 09 11:05:51 <Kusanagi> No
<Jan 09 11:05:54 <Kusanagi> we're not doing this
<Jan 09 15:18:41 <Troid> apparently /a/ is having some serious shitposting in its yuri threads, but I found the ST thread without any of that
<Jan 09 15:18:44 <VCR_Working> i don't know who this faggot is but it'd be good to keep our guards up about sakura trick
<Jan 09 15:18:51 <Troid> so I'm posting on /a/ for the first time in a long while.
<Jan 09 15:18:54 <VCR_Working> lol
<Jan 09 15:18:54 <Kusanagi> ANN is off topic
<Jan 09 15:18:58 <Kusanagi> Nobody gives a shit
<Jan 09 15:20:09 <Troid> lmao at everyone complaining about /u/ posters on /a/
<Jan 09 15:20:18 <Troid> there are so few /u/ posters who post on /u/, let alone /a/
<Jan 09 15:20:57 <Kusanagi> it's a trollish OP but it's not hurting anyone
<Jan 09 15:21:11 <Troid> buuuut as long as /a/ keeps its cancerous arguments about yuri and/or /u/ on /a/ and not /u/, I don't care
<Jan 24 00:13:14 <HD-DVD> there was one guy who was complaining about /u/ shitposting
<Jan 24 00:13:31 <HD-DVD> specifically the fact that it was getting deleted
<Jan 24 00:13:48 <Troid> wait, what
<Jan 24 00:14:13 <HD-DVD> also another guy who was saying a lot of boards were taken over by tumblr and that /a/ was next
<Jan 24 00:14:30 <HD-DVD> prolly samefag tho
<Jan 24 00:14:37 <HD-DVD> and lol yeah Troid
<Jan 24 00:14:51 <Troid> like was mad that "yurifag pls go" posts were being deleted, or posts by yurifags were being deleted
<Jan 24 00:15:11 <Troid> *was he
<Jan 24 00:15:15 <HD-DVD> he was saying to 'get the mod deleting /u/ shitposting'
<Jan 24 00:15:35 <Troid> ah
<Jan 24 00:15:45 <Troid> yes, we must purge all six regular poster on /u/ from /a/
<Jan 24 00:15:57 <HD-DVD> faggotry all around
<Jan 24 03:30:36 <Kusanagi> Instead of viewing the users as your enemy you should embrace them as a second set of eyes which means you should try your best to treat them fairly so they want to help and work with you to make the board better
<Feb 17 22:42:40 <Troid> irrelevance is my greatest weapon
<Feb 17 22:42:49 <Troid> no one is going to bother trying to find me on google.
Dunning--Kruger effect in action
<Mar 21 14:54:19 <Kusanagi> Don't let tumblr threads live at all
<Mar 21 14:54:25 <Kusanagi> meaning like discussion of the tumblr site
<Mar 21 14:54:47 <Inf> what about posts with tumblr image names?
<Mar 21 14:55:01 <Kusanagi> Don't go after them, there's so many it's a waste of time
<Mar 21 14:55:16 <WhatWinterLeft> Theres really no point in singling out on-topic posts with tumblr filenames
<Mar 21 14:55:37 <Kusanagi> The board will do your job for you
<Mar 21 14:55:46 <Troid> god forbid someone post an image that came from tumblr!!
<Mar 31 20:21:00 <errorname457> oh god kuskus https://boards.4chan.org/a/res/104718163#p104753118
<Mar 31 20:21:11 <errorname457> you might also be entertained by that troid
<Mar 31 20:22:06 <Troid> I guess that's the anti-yuri shitposter /a/ always talks about
<Mar 31 20:22:30 <Troid> I had no idea who he was until I started visiting the sakura trick threads; he doesn't come to /u/ and he wasn't around when I used to frequent /a/ years ago
<Mar 31 20:22:31 <KusKus> There is a guy who keeps trolling the threads
<Mar 31 20:22:53 <KusKus> But he hates gays too
<Mar 31 20:22:57 <KusKus> The guy I'm thinking of
<Mar 31 20:23:03 <Troid> yeah that's who I'm thinking of as well.
<Mar 31 20:23:14 <Troid> they call him "chagen" or "frostav"
<Mar 31 20:23:38 <Troid> it's a bit annoying because there are one or two people who ALWAYS reply to him and post screenshots of his ANN posts and stuff
<Mar 31 20:24:38 <Troid> but again despite being a troll who targets yuri threads, he's never posted on /u/ to my knowledge
<Mar 31 20:25:09 <Troid> or maybe troll's not the right word, he might actually just be mentally unstable and his hatred of gay people compells him to shitpost
<Apr 01 12:34:15 <Kusanagi> Kill people linking to tumblr
<Apr 01 12:34:20 <Kusanagi> tumblr is not anime
<Apr 01 12:34:32 <Kusanagi> You don't have to BR but at least remove the post
<Apr 01 12:34:44 <Kusanagi> Kill people who link to reddit too
<Apr 02 00:26:17 <Troid> speaking of shitposter hangouts, I'm probably going to get a mod account on foolz tomorrow
This mistake by Woxxy caused what was Troid's most malicous action against /u/. He abused the power granted by his moderator account to delete posts and threads from before he was a janitor on /u/ to fit his own narrative, changing the board's history forever.
<Apr 02 17:54:17 <KusKus> /a/'s problems come from outsiders who don't lurk
<Apr 02 17:54:37 <KusKus> /a/ isn't like the rest of the boards they like to be on topic
<Apr 12 00:00:18 <Troid> sometimes /u/'s overlap with /a/ spawns a bit of elitism
<Apr 12 00:00:28 <Troid> gotta drive out those gaiafags
<Apr 12 00:00:31 <Troid> I mean redditors
<Apr 12 00:00:34 <Troid> I mean shoujoai.com posters
<Apr 12 00:00:38 <Troid> I mean tumblrfags
<Apr 18 22:03:24 <Troid> I don't even like /a/ but calling it worse than /v/ is a stretch
<Apr 19 02:04:02 <KusKus> 702 posts of pure rage
<Apr 19 02:04:04 <KusKus> I love /a/
<Apr 21 22:02:47 <yetsturdy> I'm trying to convince myself that social justice is the right thing
<Apr 21 22:03:01 <yetsturdy> that means figuring out a gradient from their definitions of words from my definitions of words.
<Apr 21 22:03:03 <Kusanagi> It depends on what part
<Apr 21 22:03:08 <yetsturdy> because this shit ain't logical
<Apr 21 22:03:08 <Troid> "social justice" is by definition "the right thing"
<Apr 21 22:03:19 <Kusanagi> /lgbt/ forcing their views on people is a huge problem
<Apr 21 22:03:21 <Troid> [insert social justice-oriented MOVEMENT here] is not necessarily the right thing
<Apr 21 22:03:28 <Troid> what the fuck are you talking about now
<Apr 21 22:03:28 <Kusanagi> Trying to force people to conform to your view point is wrong
<Apr 21 22:03:33 <yetsturdy> because emotions
<Apr 21 22:03:35 <Troid> /lgbt/? the 4chan board?
<Apr 21 22:03:37 <Troid> seriously?
<Apr 21 22:03:39 <Kusanagi> But that doesn't mean they shouldn't get rights like everyone else
<Apr 21 22:03:42 <bigN> I don't think there's anything wrong with fighting for social justice itself but what the word has come to represent now is the problem
<Apr 21 22:03:55 <Troid> nooooooope I am out of this conversation
<Apr 21 22:04:06 <yetsturdy> "social justice" has never meant "equal rights"
<Apr 21 22:04:10 <Kusanagi> yes Troid really that whole community not just the 4chan board is what I mean
<Apr 21 22:04:16 <Troid> either way
<Apr 21 22:04:18 <yetsturdy> people fought for civil rights in the 60s
<Apr 21 22:04:19 <Troid> horrible thing to say
<Apr 21 22:04:38 <Kusanagi> So people aren't entitled to opinions in your view Troid
<Apr 21 22:04:39 <Kusanagi> Ok
<Apr 21 22:04:47 <yetsturdy> social justice is about revenge for social treatment which can't be legislated.
<Apr 21 22:04:54 <yetsturdy> with civil rights, you get laws passed.
<Apr 21 22:05:09 <yetsturdy> with social justice, you spread culture which lets minorities have power in social situations.
<Apr 21 22:05:19 <Kusanagi> I don't have a problem with gays wanting to get married I have a problem with attacking normal people for being fucking normal
<Apr 21 22:05:29 <bigN> ^
<Apr 28 20:28:28 <Troid> just use a hot pocket as a dildo
<May 06 13:05:11 <ALTERNATIVE> https://nsfw.foolz.us/u/thread/1545351/#1545351 what is this
<May 06 13:05:54 <Troid> a random doujin page
<May 06 13:06:33 <ALTERNATIVE> do you remember why you deleted it
<May 06 13:08:02 <Troid> I get suspicious about /a/ crossposts, and also threads started with a single image are frowned upon
<May 06 13:08:48 <Troid> basically if they wanted a porn thread they needed to post more, and if they wanted a discussion thread(?) there was already a nanoha thread (and still is)
<May 06 13:09:21 <ALTERNATIVE> huh
<May 06 13:40:54 <Inf> troid ever since sakura trick started airing I've seen a huge influx of yuri and anti-yuri shitposting
<May 06 13:41:02 <Inf> shit they're even trying to ruin nanoha threads
<May 06 13:41:18 <Troid> it's okay to not like /u/, and not like yuri if you're on /a/
<May 06 13:41:33 <Troid> but promise me you won't buy into to anyone who says /u/ is responsible for raiding/ruining /a/ or whatever
<May 06 13:41:43 <Troid> because fuck
<May 06 13:41:58 <Troid> all 30 regular users of /u/ couldn't make a ripple in /a/
<May 06 13:42:08 <Kusanagi> Troid there might be some truth to it I see some /u/ level shit posting from time to time
<May 06 13:42:17 <Troid> Kusanagi please go
<May 06 13:42:43 <Kusanagi> We have gotten a couple of threads that belong on /u/ more than in /a/ recently
<May 06 13:43:45 <Troid> I said it's utterly retarded to believe the userbase of /u/ is responsible for "yuri shitposting" on /a/
<May 06 22:19:48 <Zakuro`> troid: how gay is saki on a scale of 1 to 10
<May 06 22:20:03 <Troid> I've never watched it ;_;
<May 06 22:20:09 <Zakuro`> wow
<May 08 14:50:55 <trout-senpai> https://boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/12101703/wixoss uh can someone help me make decisions on this thread
<May 08 14:51:06 <trout-senpai> i've been deleting posts that are elitist against /a/ people
<May 08 14:51:15 <trout-senpai> but am i also supposed to delete posts that complain about the move
<May 08 14:51:28 <trout-senpai> or just discuss it in general
<May 08 14:51:57 <Troid> I doubt deleting posts will help
<May 08 14:52:10 <trout-senpai> also, with respect to this: https://warosu.org/jp/thread/S12101703#p12104289_2
<May 08 14:52:14 <Troid> they're going to talk/complain about it
<May 08 14:52:16 <trout-senpai> it would be nice to get a mod looking for ban evasion
<May 08 14:52:24 <trout-senpai> yeah i assumed as much
<May 08 14:52:40 <trout-senpai> i mean, i guess it's probably sort of healthy for them to discuss the move a bit
<May 08 14:52:47 <trout-senpai> but it also means no one can talk about wixoss
<May 08 14:53:17 <Troid> yeah it's not goin to be easy. you can talk to VCR about it when he wakes up and see what he thinks
This is when the mods try to split the TCG discussion from the anime discussion in the /a/ wixoss threads.
<May 08 15:37:06 <trout-senpai> do you know if any other generals are slated for being moved in the near future
<May 08 15:39:11 <VCR_Working> the biggest one is im@s afaik
<May 08 15:39:24 <VCR_Working> that one's going to be painful
<May 08 15:39:34 <trout-senpai> oh boy
<May 08 15:39:40 <trout-senpai> didn't they already try and fail to move that before
<May 08 15:39:56 <trout-senpai> if you're going to need extra janny power, i should let you know that i won't be around next week at all
<May 08 15:40:05 <trout-senpai> i posted it in the thread on /j/ but no one responded
<May 08 15:41:05 <trout-senpai> also, to be fair, there are already several reasonably pleasant im@s threads on the board
<May 08 15:41:16 <trout-senpai> so hopefully it won't come as such a cultural shock
<May 08 15:42:06 <VCR_Working> i'm hoping it goes okay but we all know things never go as planned
<May 08 15:45:13 <trout-senpai> https://boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/12101703/wixoss#p12104462 is the "3 times in a card game" a reference to something?
<May 08 15:45:40 <trout-senpai> i assume this guy is complaining about me deleting all the meta posts, but i'm not sure because wixoss is also a card game
<May 08 15:46:25 <VCR_Working> being erased from reality?
<May 08 15:46:27 <VCR_Working> iunno
<May 08 15:46:37 <VCR_Working> ip doesn't match up
<May 08 15:56:43 <trout-senpai> so, is the new rule about /a/ appropriateness going to be basically any anime with a franchise that extends to other media goes on /jp/?
<May 08 15:57:20 <Troid> dicussion of the anime is supposed to stay on /a/
<May 08 15:57:53 <Troid> I don't know what metric is going to be used to determine this, but it's threads where "too much" of the discussion is on the VN/LN/whatever that will be moved
<May 08 15:58:49 <Troid> don't ask me how you're supposed to separate that from the anime discussion when they just consider themselves one thread for the series, period
<May 08 15:59:12 <trout-senpai> yeah, i saw that on the /j/ thread, and it seems totally unenforceable to me
<May 08 16:19:52 <trout-senpai> https://boards.4chan.org/jp/thread/12101703/wixoss#p12104608
<May 08 16:20:20 <trout-senpai> response to this? i read through the whole /j/ thread but they didn't address this particular case
<May 08 16:21:18 <Troid> if they can make a wixoss thread that's relevant to /tg/ then I don't think there'd be any problem?
<May 08 16:21:37 <Troid> it's kind of outside the scope of the whole /a/ project so it would just be up to the /tg/ janitors whether the thread belonged there
<May 08 16:22:20 <HD-DVD> that's why I needed Scrubadour last night
<May 08 16:22:57 <trout-senpai> Scrubadour, you're /tg/?
<May 08 16:23:00 <Scrubadour> yes
<May 08 16:23:04 <HD-DVD> this wixoss thing
<May 08 16:23:11 <Scrubadour> wiss schwartz?
<May 08 16:23:14 <Scrubadour> weiss*
<May 08 16:24:00 <Scrubadour> apparently no
<May 08 16:24:22 <Scrubadour> FOTM card game by takara tomy based on an animu
<May 08 16:24:46 <HD-DVD> yeaaaaahh
<May 08 16:25:05 <Scrubadour> ok that's neat, it can go on /tg/ too
<May 08 16:25:12 <Scrubadour> what's the problem?
<May 08 16:25:19 <trout-senpai> it got a bad response on /jp/
<May 08 16:25:53 <HD-DVD> might need a mod to redirect them to /tg/
<May 08 16:26:05 <HD-DVD> I still can't modpost sooooo
<May 08 16:26:10 <trout-senpai> yeah, definitely don't think an anonymous post would do it
<May 08 16:26:21 <trout-senpai> are there /tg/ mods we should consult about this first?
<May 08 16:26:29 <HD-DVD> rape
<May 08 16:26:35 <Scrubadour> the mod that was looking over /tg/ before i was brought on was RA
<May 08 16:26:37 <trout-senpai> i don't think it's so out of place on /jp/
<May 08 16:27:13 <trout-senpai> but i think the people in the wixoss thread probably got a bad first impression from the /jp/ shitposters
<May 08 16:27:40 <Scrubadour> it seems pretty otaku, but it's a card game, so if they want to come to /tg/ that's fine, it's not really up to me to decide this anyway. last time a thread was redirected to /tg/ it was fuck quest, and they seem to have gone over without anything burning for too long
<May 08 16:28:24 <trout-senpai> yeah, it's kawaii as HELL
<May 08 16:28:28 <trout-senpai> wouldn't mind seeing it on the jay myself
<May 08 16:28:55 <trout-senpai> i'm just wondering why /jp/ was the first place that it was sent
<May 08 16:28:58 <Scrubadour> i don't know if anyone's going to care about WIXOSS though, but i'll look over the thread to make sure it doesn't get too derailed with whining or complaints
<May 08 16:30:14 <Scrubadour> although i feel the need to point out that giving into the demands of a small group of whiners is probably not a good habbit
<May 09 11:06:44 <Kusanagi> Shits all fucked up
<May 09 11:06:53 <Kusanagi> I'm on extended break till it gets solved
<May 09 11:07:35 <trout-senpai> mod tools still broken?
<May 09 11:07:59 <Kusanagi> More like moderation policy is broken and I have no direction
<May 09 11:08:05 <Kusanagi> So I'm done for now
<May 09 11:10:11 <Kusanagi> What is this fucking card game and why does it matter so fucking much
<May 09 11:10:32 <theomeo> since rules havent been updated i've just been leaving them alone
<May 09 11:10:38 <theomeo> also its a shitty show based on an even shittier game
<May 09 11:11:36 <Scrubadour> yeah it's one of those FOTM things that will almost certainly die down in a few months
<May 09 11:11:48 <Inf> wixoss?
<May 09 11:12:10 <Inf> its just a card game trying to be the meguca of yugioh
<May 09 11:14:13 <Kusanagi> I've reached a point here
<May 09 11:14:22 <Kusanagi> And this all has to do with /a/
<May 09 11:14:41 <Kusanagi> Where it's hard for me to support what is happening when the users are so against us
<May 09 11:14:44 <trout-senpai> i'm still honeslty not personally convinced that any of this stuff needs to be moved off of /a/
<May 09 11:14:54 <theomeo> i am new to /a/ stuff and ive been confused for days, but for other reasons
<May 09 11:14:56 <trout-senpai> yeah what you just said
<May 09 11:15:07 <Scrubadour> take it easy Kusanagi, see you arond.
<May 09 11:15:41 <Kusanagi> We've started attacking a problems truthly that will never be off of /a/ no matter how much you ban and delete them
<May 09 11:15:44 <theomeo> but since no rules have changed like i said, i dont worry about the titty and game threads
<May 09 11:15:55 <Kusanagi> We are making problems in /a/ at this point
<May 09 11:16:02 <Kusanagi> We are making the board worse by doing this shit
<May 09 11:16:11 <Kusanagi> Nobody listen to me though
<May 09 11:16:36 <Kusanagi> I'm just the fucking /a/ mod who has spent so much god damn time janitoring and really just being on the board that I have no fucking clue the best way to handle the board
<May 09 11:16:39 <theomeo> mod posts have been sending threads to graveyard for /jp/ or /e/ stuff
<May 09 11:16:39 <trout-senpai> Inf: we deleted an umineko thread and told the wixoss threads to move
<May 09 11:16:53 <Inf> oh huh
<May 09 11:16:58 <trout-senpai> yeah basically
<May 09 11:16:59 <Inf> i thought we were still in discussion mode
<May 09 11:16:59 <trout-senpai> the idea is
<May 09 11:17:09 <trout-senpai> game discussion goes on /jp/, anime discussion goes on /a/
<May 09 11:17:13 <trout-senpai> i thought we were in discussion mode too
<May 09 11:17:20 <Inf> yeah thats why im confused
<May 09 11:17:27 <trout-senpai> and reading through the /j/ thread, it frankly looks like most people are against the split
<May 09 11:17:39 <trout-senpai> but things have been moving anyways
<May 09 11:20:06 <trout-senpai> the problem also is that most people don't necessarily filter their discussion by medium
<May 09 11:20:12 <trout-senpai> they want to talk about their favorite characgters or whatever
<May 09 11:20:17 <trout-senpai> and then they'll talk about both the game and the anime
<May 09 11:21:17 <Inf> re wixoss on /j/ I don't see why there has to be made a distinction whether or not it's tg or jp
<May 09 11:21:19 <Inf> it's a card game
<May 09 11:21:30 <Inf> and it's japanese, jp likes japanese games
<May 09 11:22:19 <Scrubadour> god i'm going to have to read this /j/ thread
<May 14 11:57:39 <Troid> so I am a global janitor now. feel free to ping me if a board is getting raided or there's something else you need help with
Troid gets the keys to /a/
<Jun 08 14:31:50 <Troid> meanwhile on /u/ frozen threads continue to be on-topic and quality
<Jul 16 07:13:42 <theomeo> >Everyone on /a/ who is against yurishit is against it because it steals pussy that rightfully belongs to men, you retarded, subhuman piece of shit.
<Jul 16 07:13:57 <theomeo> i feel like this whole yuri thing has gotten out of hand
<Jul 16 07:13:57 <VCR_Working> hurr
<Jul 16 07:14:05 <VCR_Working> i'll ban that shitter, link
<Jul 16 07:14:14 <theomeo> https://boards.4chan.org/a/thread/110453900#p110473553
<Jul 16 07:14:55 <theomeo> its definitely shitposting (especially later in his post)
<Jul 16 07:15:04 <theomeo> but then a lot of the yurithreads are pretty much 100% shitposting
<Jul 28 04:12:16 <Kusanagi> >Tumblr: the anime, starring a half dozen female neets who don't need no man and a hot trap. Why isn't this on /a/ all the time? It's horribly awesome.
<Jul 28 04:12:36 <Kusanagi> That's a great way to get whatever you're talking about hated
<Jul 28 04:17:03 <Kusanagi> We
<Jul 28 04:17:09 <Kusanagi> Are about to lose a page on /a/
<Jul 28 04:17:20 <Kusanagi> There is one thread on page 10
<Jul 28 04:17:38 <Kusanagi> Just lost a page
<Aug 01 03:39:04 <Kusanagi> No
<Aug 01 03:39:12 <Kusanagi> Some fucking SJW tumblr reddit shit
<Aug 01 03:39:48 <Kusanagi> >So /a/ this tumblrite redditor is livestreaming and she claims to be a fujoshi anime/cosplay freak.
<Aug 01 03:39:50 <Kusanagi> That
<Aug 01 03:40:01 <Kusanagi> NOBODY CARES
<Aug 01 03:40:06 <Kusanagi> Also thread was full of dubs
<Aug 01 03:40:10 <Kusanagi> Good job /a/
<[22:41:17] <Troid> I want to enjoy yuri threads like this on /a/ but half the posts are just an argument about /u/, the board
<[22:41:28] <Troid> the same thing over and over again
<[22:42:26] <Troid> also wow that frostav person is real?
<[22:42:38] <Troid> I mean I knew there was such a person but I thought it was someone who just posted on MAL or some shit
<[22:42:44] <Troid> and /a/ people in yuri threas would always mock
<[22:43:24] <Axism> don't worry troid I don't think anyone here disagrees that /a/ is a shitty board
<20th August 2014
Gamergate starts
<[13:20:37] <Troid> https://boards.4chan.org/u/thread/1595938#p1597711 gee I wonder who this is and why they're mad
<[13:20:59] <ALTERNATIVE> see that's the same person
<[13:21:00] <ALTERNATIVE> the first one wasn't
<[13:21:20] <Troid> he posts from both a dynamic IP and also proxies. in the same threads, at the same time
<[13:21:28] <Troid> it was all the same person
<[13:21:43] <ALTERNATIVE> it doesn't look like it
<[13:21:53] <[13:22:34] <ALTERNATIVE> the number of incorrect ban evasion bans lately has me worried
<[13:23:12] <ALTERNATIVE> I'm wondering if we should stop ban requesting for evasion completely and switch to just using templates for their offenses
<[13:23:20] <ALTERNATIVE> excluding very obvious offenders
<[13:23:30] <Troid> that would cripple my attempts to rid /u/ of this person
<[13:23:39] <Troid> well I guess I mostly just ping mods for him anyway
<[13:23:49] <ALTERNATIVE> I'm not trying to insult you here
<[13:24:00] <ALTERNATIVE> I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that you could finger someone incorrectly
<[13:24:26] <Troid> when I'm not sure I always check
<[13:24:26] <ALTERNATIVE> I'd say for the vast majority of things you're spot on
<[13:24:45] <ALTERNATIVE> I just want to emphasise caution when dealing with these things
<[13:24:47] <Troid> chucking an evasion ban at posts like these would just be denied because there's no way for most mods to know it's an evader
<[13:24:49] <KusKus> I'm with dave on this
<[13:24:50] <ALTERNATIVE> especially considering the increase in appeals
<[13:25:14] <ALTERNATIVE> I'm speaking overall, in general, not just for this individual
<[13:25:46] <KusKus> It's so fucking hard to keep track of all the anon ban evaders
<[13:26:08] <ALTERNATIVE> also what serious harm falls to people who get banned for their offense rather than evasion
<[13:26:20] <ALTERNATIVE> they end up evading a 3 day ban instead of a 30 day ban
<[13:27:18] <ALTERNATIVE> again I'm not saying everyone should stop with evasion requests
<[13:27:20] <KusKus> The sad thing is, nobody takes their bans
<[13:27:31] <ALTERNATIVE> just consider them more cautiously
<[13:27:41] <ALTERNATIVE> sure they do kus
<[13:27:50] <KusKus> They do but the really bad ones do not
<[13:28:01] <ALTERNATIVE> nature of the beast
<[13:28:02] <KusKus> So at most
<[13:28:11] <KusKus> I don't know
<[13:28:18] <KusKus> I see the need for the ban evasion ban
<[13:28:34] <KusKus> I also agree though that I Feel there has been too many false bans handed out
<[13:28:45] <KusKus> Which is why I'm becoming really cautious about them now
<[13:28:51] <ALTERNATIVE> it's just something to think about
<15th Setember 2014
Gamergate is banned
<[21:10:23] <Troid> >transparency
<[21:10:27] <Troid> heheh
<[21:11:06] <Troid> yeah becuase when any tidbit of actual internal 4chan info is leaked, it totally doesn't get used in the most malicious way possible
<[21:11:14] <Troid> we should be transparent!
<[12:13:39] <Troid> well what the fuck do you think is going to happen when you let people create and moderate whatever board?
<[12:13:48] <Troid> some people are going to make boards just to lord their mod powers over people
The lack of self awareness is shocking
<[11:51:37] <KusKus> Pls
<[11:51:43] <KusKus> Can we just delete sauce requests on /a/
<[11:51:51] <KusKus> We are being fucking overrun with this shit
<[11:51:54] <KusKus> Stop clearing them
<17th October 2014
Troid gets promoted to moderator
<[10:00:01] <Kuskus> The thread for naruto that is active right now is the only one I'm allowing till it dies
<[10:00:11] <Kuskus> The rest are garbage
<[10:00:21] <Kuskus> I'm not going to let them spam the board
<[17:22:11] <Kusanagi> Don't link to reddit on /a/
<[17:22:32] <Kusanagi> If we were to ban linking to reddit
<[17:22:35] <Kusanagi> they will just evade it
<[17:22:39] <Troid> if he doesn't learn his lesson then feel free to ban him for longer in the future
<[17:22:42] <Kusanagi> Just like they evaded the filter on "reddit"
<[17:22:46] <Kusanagi> Why Does it fucking matter
<[17:23:10] <Troid> it matters because you just banned a quality contributor to japanese threads on both /a/ and /jp/ for a week because they linked to reddit, which is not against the rules.
<[10:11:12] <ALTERNATIVE> nobody can post capcoded except for moot
moot kills capcoded posts for moderators. This stops Kusanagi (KusKus) and kinomod from being able to speak with /a/. Mod posts on /a/ were never a problem. The board actually respected what it's mods had to say.
<[00:20:45] <UltraHoss> nice
<[00:21:24] <UltraHoss> Just checked /u/, there's a thread that hasn't been bumped in about 10 days
<[00:21:51] <Troid> k
<[00:22:21] <Troid> /u/ has sped up a surprising amount
All those Dynasty and tumblr posters
<[13:52:27] <Troid> did somebody say dubs posters???
<[13:52:36] <Troid> because it's too late
<[13:52:37] <Inf> let them off today
<[13:52:42] <Troid> I already banned all of them
<[13:52:44] <Kusanagi> I would let it go
<[13:52:54] <Kusanagi> You know you're just going to make it worse right
<[13:52:56] <Inf> they are doing god's work this time
<[13:53:05] <FnFyZpXv> LET IT GO
<[13:53:08] <Troid> nope
<[13:53:39] <Kusanagi> I think it's pretty dumb to go after the posters in this thread
<[13:53:43] <Kusanagi> I should have never linked it
<[13:53:47] <Kusanagi> and now I feel bad I did
<[13:53:56] <Troid> you feel bad that I banned a bunch of dubs shitposters?
<[13:54:07] <Kusanagi> I feel bad you're ruining everyone's good time in this thread
<[13:54:15] <Kusanagi> There is no malicious intent here
<[13:54:20] <Kusanagi> It was just people have a good time
<[13:54:25] <Kusanagi> But think what you want
<[18:47:47] <kami`> >nurutu sticky
<[18:47:52] <kami`> absolutely disgusting
<[13:24:35] <RapeApe> it's a bad idea to badmouth any of 4chan's users in this channel. i covered this in orientation. it leads to janitors thinking that they are a separate and elevated class from 4chan's users, and that attitude leads to abuse. also, i shouldn't have to tell you that any comments suggesting that we troll users will be taken out of context and used against us in the event of a leak of IRC chatlogs.
<[13:25:12] <RapeApe> tl;dr - don't shit on 4chan's posters. you're a 4chan poster too.
<[19:02:21] <Kuskus> gross
<[19:02:27] <Kuskus> naruto thread talking about tumblr
<[19:02:30] <Kuskus> That's not staying
<[11:14:20] <yetsturdy> the SJWs are the only ones stopping us from doing another holocaust in America
<7th December 2014
Start of the /pol/ocaust
<[17:36:24] *** RapeApe sets mode: +b *!*Kusanagi@What.would.Brian.Boitano.do.Im.sure.hed.kick.an.ass.or.two
<[17:36:24] *** Kusanagi was kicked by RapeApe (Kusanagi)
<[17:36:31] *** RapeApe sets mode: +k brbgone2gensokyo
Kusanagi gets fired. With kami' mostly absent, /a/ is left to VCR_Working and Troid.
<[23:25:17] <AZ4> man, /u/fags really do ruin verything
<[23:25:34] <HD-DVD> a/u/tistz
<[23:27:26] <theomeo> pls
<[23:28:19] <Troid> that guy isn't a /u/ poster though
<[23:28:24] <Troid> they're an /a/ poster from the precure threads
<[23:28:30] <Troid> >/a/utists
<[23:28:40] <HD-DVD> yeah judging by the gallery he's a yurifag for sure tho
<17th January 2015
moot requests personal ID from all mods and janitors. This results in another loss of experienced staff.
What killed both 4/a/ and 4/u/ was sustained incompetence, disinterest and apathy. The lack of supervision and leadership from moot and the managers allowed the standard of moderation to decline. The dedicated, experienced staff, like AoC and Azatsu became disillusioned with the situation and left. RapeApe and ALTERNATIVE make some good suggestions but none of the janitors seem to have any respect for their opinions. Troid displays outright hatred towards /a/ and is never called out for it. Previously moot fired janitors for much less. The other janitors see him get promoted and repeat the same behaviour. This results in the problems that were once confined to /u/, infecting the entire site. The paranoia over ban evaders starts with Troid spending hours looking for anyone that posts an opinion he doesn't like on /u/ and then assuming it's the same person every time. Over the course of two years this attitude spreads to other boards. Janitors waste so much time chasing after ban evaders when they should be doing actual moderation like deleting shitposting and spam. Hammering posters with 30 day bans when they don't deserve it is harmful to the userbase, because all it does is piss people off and erode trust in the moderation team. Once that trust is gone, it doesn't come back.
The entire /a/-/u/ shitposting is the result of Troid favouring /u/ over /a/. In Troid's mind /u/ can do no wrong. This results in only side of a derail being banned, which creates anger and resentment towards the moderation and /u/. Just ban both sides of a thread derailing argument, this isn't difficult to anyone of a sound mind. His failure to deal with chronic shitposters such as Mugino and Chagen has also added to /a/'s hatred of /u/. In the case of both of these posters, it was left up to the userbase to dox them to get them to fuck off. Chagen was revealed to be a self hating queer that fapped to yaoi and diaper fur. Mugino was doxed by 8/u/. This finally forced the 4mods to act after it was discovered that Mugino to threatened to rape a 14yo girl. The other pair of chronic thread derailers, "ACK" and !Akemi is another problem that has never been solved on 4chan. What was an isolated problem on 4/u/ has been allowed to leak into other boards and even outside of 4chan itself. It started six fucking years ago. Troid was unable to put aside preconceived convictions and moderate fairly. The instigator !Akemi, is a tranny, so therefore is deserving of special protections as an oppressed individual. "ACK" criticises Dynasty and posts an opinion that Troid doesn't like, so he gets banned instead. Now /a/, /m/ and /u/ are unable to have a threads on Madoka, YuYuYu and Nahona, without being spammed. This makes other boards hate /u/ even more.
The values of the 4chan moderation are directly opposed to the needs of the userbase. Punishing posters for previously condoned behaviour, such as self moderation does nothing but alienate and splinter the existing userbase. It breaks a board's ability to assimilate new posters, which fractures the userbase further. 4/u/ currently spends more time arguing with itself than it does discussing yuri. As old anons have left, the ability to self moderate has died. The board needs constant attention from the staff to stop petty inane arguements wrecking threads. The 4/u/ general being the perfect example. 4/a/ just looks like no one gives shit anymore. It feels dead and sterile. Everything that made 4/a/ a great place to discuss anime and manga is long gone.