6e7d20 No.26690[Last 50 Posts]
Cornucopia of Resources / Guide
Read the guide before asking questions.
http://djtguide.neocities.org/
Stickied one still has stuff we need to translate - this one we're not gonna post giant translations in pastebins/ghostbins so thread will stay on topic.
Make translation requests here, provide a link to the gallery requested.
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b3c42f No.26894
If you have questions that aren't answered in the guide, feel free to ask, I will answer to the best of my ability eventually. Note I am not near-native.
Also watch this video:
https://tvclip.org/video/G5IPArDxO40/language-learning-the-biggest-mistake-people-make.html
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acf640 No.26896
Translator sent me the translation for the first chapter of Yuri Tantei.
Big typesetting job.
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1dba29 No.27475
Finally Ghostbin is back up.
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2fe80f No.27841
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3697ef No.30687
We need more typesetters with photoshop access.
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43314b No.30688
>>30687
That or stick to doujins with little dialog. If we're gonna do mangas in any quick amount of time then we need like two or three extra typesetters that way we can break each chapter up into segments for the typesetters to do. Mermaid Lovers, the HiME doujin that still needs typesetting, and Yuri Tantei are all stressing the need for us to have more people though.
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d8f45f No.30689
>>30687
I think I'm pretty good using image editing programs. I could try my hand at that.
But I am going to need to get PS again because I lost the one I had before from hard drive failure a while back.
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25d00d No.30690
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e4f867 No.32330
I don't know how many people there may be here that are learning or know Japanese, not many I imagine, but in an attempt to maybe breath a little life into the thread, how about talking about some yuri media in Japanese you've been enjoying lately or have in the past? Maybe note if it's something easier for any beginners if we have any. Feel free to talk about titles that are translated too as long as you're using the Japanese since translations, good or bad, can change the experience. You could even compare differences between the two if you're familiar with both should you want to.
Lately I read ことのはアムリラート and it was nice. It's probably my favorite yuri VN although I've only read a few of them. Has a similar writing style to ひとりのクオリア as far as memory serves and also shares some assets with it. It may have some appeal to language learners since it deals with that and the topic of a language barrier as it's main theme. Along the way, you'll learn some of and be quizzed on a made up language which is based on Esperanto: ユリアーモ, though you can negate the need by turning on full Japanese subtitles for all of it and quizzes to easy mode if that doesn't appeal to you. I didn't go that route and thought it was neat having to decipher stuff and sometimes being left in the dark as to what was being said, similarly to how the protagonist was. Made some things a bit more suspenseful I felt and I'd guess a more enjoyable experience all-around. I would say that it's probably not the best for a beginner because of the language stuff.
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1e70de No.32331
>>32330
I was thinking about trying out translation again but I'm really rusty. I should try and find something very ez to translate and start from there.
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de4d94 No.32370
>>32331
I wouldn't recommend translation as a good practice method if you mean that your Japanese is rusty. It'll be more efficient for you to just read something for yourself as you'll get more time in with Japanese that way rather than spending half or more of your time on the English side of things. Better to leave translation for when you've little doubt in your interpretations, both for the betterment of your own understanding and for the enjoyment of any readers.
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f19bba No.33541
Pic related is what I'm planning on reading next. It's supposedly about a high-school girl who becomes obsessed with another girl. I found it on a list of yuri novels on this blog:
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/tama-427270/
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61b32e No.33546
Also, what do you all (I'm pretty sure there at least three of us here) do for listening practice? I watch a lot of 実況 videos on youtube (even though I think the last video game I actually played was FFXIII-2 around the time it released).
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15b47b No.33553
>>33546
I don't intentionally listen, currently I just watch whatever anime I want and let youtube mix some jpop playlists for me. But I'm really too much of a newb, I'm planning on picking up some live action drama when I'm done with kana and a bit of kanji.
I'm going all the way with this learning calligraphy. I used to practice western calligraphy in the cancellaresca font so it feels natural doing this properly as well.
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621df3 No.33560
>>33553
I think learning the fundamentals of stroke order and being able to write all the kana and at least a few hundred kanji properly is actually a good thing to do even if you think you just want to read. Having a feel for stroke order makes reading handwriting much easier I find, and it also pretty eliminates any confusing that might come with switching between different print fonts. I'm 99% sure that all the posts on the old /a/djt/ about not being able to read when the font was switched were from people that never bothered learning how to write.
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ba666d No.33592
Requesting translation of this:
https://imgur.com/a/J4fM6
Source: https://twitter.com/samezawa2
The "art" isn't important, this is a recap of an official live drama with the voice actors of the anime Hina Logi that nobody recorded but this guy thankfully did a comic illustrating the whole thing, regardless of the bad art the dialogue is canon and from what I understood the tweets said it was quite gay.
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0675e8 No.33594
>>33546
Lately I've been watching a bit of 釣りよかでしょう on youtube, a mostly fishing and cooking based channel. Any voiced games and stuff of course. I'll sometimes watch Japanese livestreams on twitch or niconama. Most of the music I listen to is also Japanese. If you want something to listen to you could try searching 朗読 with or without some other terms for some audiobooks or people reading aloud novel games and the like.
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a2498f No.33595
I noticed something while learning to write hiragana, just want to share this and see if anyone else felt the same. I've done a bit of painting before so maybe this is something I have a habit of doing, anyway when doing different things I do them with a certain feeling or mood in the movements. At first I didn't know what I was doing, I couldn't fully grasp the shapes. When I got tired I kept going anyway and almost got sloppy. But that's not in my nature, so I tried to shape up and ended up with a feeling of slightly annoyed "arrogance" and the letters turned out perfect.
After experiencing this I've begun to notice the same feeling in japanese cultural expressions over all. While it looks neat and cute at a surface level, it's really easy to get beyond it and see a deeper meaning if you look at it with a combination of arrogance and respect, kind of like you're contantly looking down on someone but not expressing it.
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461fe6 No.33874
When learning a new language, or learning writing in your native language, there seems to be different stages you have to go through. The weird thing is I can't remember clearly the process when I started understanding writing in my own language at all. I remember the first lesson in elementary school and I didn't understand a thing. Then we went through handwriting all the letters and one year later I started reading Rudyard Kipling's Jungle Book. Whatever happened in between is a mystery to me. I know at one point I tried writing a poem and didn't understand why some words are not spelled phonetically.
When learning english I remember picking up random phrases and how to write them like "I love you", while some other sentences just stuck to my mind but I was unable to make sense of them even when using a dictionary. There was this one in particular from a small book that came with a turtles action figure; "I love being a turtle." I tried translating it literally word for word and it made no sense at all. Two years later I had no problems understanding the text in Zelda 3.
I'm at a similar stage now with japanese, being able to pick up basic sentences and meaning in spoken language and text, but some phrases just stick to my memory and I'm unable to make sense of them. I know this is the point where I have to "break through" to get an intuitive feel for the structure and start thinking within the language rather than attempting to understanding it by translating it back to my own.
With french I never got past that stage, but I wasn't motivated enough to learn it back then so I gave up.
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39870c No.34240
>>33541
So I started reading this tonight. 64 pages in and feMC is both crazy and getting cucked by a guy. However, I flipped ahead and randomly found a scene where feMC is forcing the object of obsession to worship her feet while naked, so we'll see where this goes.
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2f6ea7 No.34305
Every Japanese novel is the same lol. This country got fucked up so badly by WWII.
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5d3d82 No.34323
>>34240
On page 144. She fucks the father of the girl she's obsessed with in order to feel closer to the girl, and is still getting cucked by the same guy.
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97d7ae No.34513
>>34323
So I finished reading the book. It's horrible. One graphic sex scene with a fat old man after another. My initial post was wrong, there is no sexual scene of any kind with her "love interest" (if you can even call her that), she was just calling the man she thought was love interest's father by the same last name. The author claims in the afterword that it's a "homosexual" "love" "story," so I guess it technically qualifies as yuri. The worst part was the essay at the end where a critic basically says people who just write stories about two girls in love are two-bit hacks and praises the author for her ugly, graphic trash novel. In conclusion, do not waste your money importing this from Japan.
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0b9805 No.34585
>>34513
Here's a website you might like better than the blog you found that novel on. http://wikiwiki.jp/lilylibrary/ For most stuff it's got a brief summary and for the novel you read, it gives warnings about it's yuri content and it's non-yuri content. It also lists a 百合度% for a lot of stuff which is based more on the amount of content that's yuri in nature and not how light or serious that yuri might be. It might not always be completely reliable since different people may give different ratings. The novel you read lists a 60%.
I've been wanting to read more light novels but always end up shelving them for something else. There haven't really been too many yuri novels I've seen that really managed to grab my attention I guess.
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b6e5f1 No.34588
>>34513
>spoiler
That sounds oddly specific and bloody familiar but I cant put my fingers on who said/had that opinion.
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6f5456 No.34622
>>34585
It's funny that translations of Sarah Waters novels are included in that wiki and rated highly. If a Westerner did that 8/u/ would piss on them and call them tumblrshits
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14d07a No.35193
So what are you all reading right now? And did you make sure to get it approved by your oneesama first?
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010fc4 No.35200
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a51035 No.35201
>>35200
Did that get a Japanese translation?
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912e6d No.35211
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99db61 No.35217
>>35211
? That seems to be a collection of essays tho?
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e3d9b3 No.35218
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4fc2be No.35219
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99a26f No.35224
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bce233 No.35285
>>35193
Not reading anything /u/ relevant at the moment, but after I finish part 3 of the Kaiji series I'm thinking I might either read あまゆる, 総合タワーリシチ or some of the あだしま novels. Also going to look around and see if I can't find any lolixloli series to read.
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ec5613 No.35928
Should I start trying to learn the grammar with the kana before I start on the kanji, or is it better to know the kanji and kana before you try to take on the grammar?
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83e838 No.35930
>>35928
Had someone start to learn Jap and he learnt grammar with the kana but I think it'd be easier if you learned the kana then learn the specific grammar rules.
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b45b71 No.35942
>>35928
Kana first is a good choice. After that learn a mix of grammar, vocabulary and kanji. Some people don't really put any concentrated efforts toward kanji specifically and just try to become familiar with them through learning vocabulary and maybe learning radicals on the side. It's a person to person sort of thing, how to approach kanji. I definitely wouldn't recommend trying to learn a ton of kanji before you have any practical use for it although there are some people that do it. Can't do much with only kanji and no grammar or vocabulary and the faster you can use it the better.
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8e9a79 No.35949
>>35928
This is a question for an elite Japanese learning community like reddit.com/r/learnjapanese. The dweebs here have no idea what they are talking about and will only give you bad advice.
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c06fe0 No.35951
>>35930
>>35942
Thanks, I meant to say grammar for the kana, since I know the all of the kana already.
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e5534c No.36557
I hope you can help translating this.
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bedec9 No.36558
>>35942
Won't learning kanji help with vocabulary? (another anon here) I was planning to do kana first then kanji + grammar.
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2dcff2 No.36561
>>36558
It will. And vocabulary will help with kanji. Learning them together allows your brain to make more associations between the new information, making it easier to remember. It's easier to remember 百 when you know it's used in 百合 and vice versa. Plus, when you're learning both you can actually do something with it which adds to your learning capability. You can't read even beginner-oriented material when you know 1000 kanji and no vocabulary, but with 400 kanji and 600 vocabulary you could.
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7c2e82 No.36607
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560626 No.36625
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20c469 No.36810
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77f7eb No.36817
Anyone know of anything with some 方言女子 to recommend? + for the less commonly seen ones.
>>36810
No need to bump a thread from page 2.
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d9094e No.39800
Just came across this passage in the 吉屋信子 novel I'm reading right now and thought it was really pretty, so I wanted to share it with you guys.
聖き者のまぬがれ難き無限の寂寥！ そは聖者の老いし額に刻まれし貴い無韻の光である。 ああ、さあれ、いまだ自らを聖め得ずして地上の暗に魂をさまよわす若き者の不断の寂寥こそは、世にも痛ましく憐れにいじらしい人間の悲愁の極みではあるまいか。
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42f569 No.41651
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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26fc22 No.41655
>>41651
Damn this is nostalgic.
>you're gonna need a year
Ahahaha
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96f1c0 No.41674
>>30687
6 month late reply, but I'd like to try my hand at typesetting for this board sometime.
I have Photoshop with the crack and fonts that have been linked on this board a few times.
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ec37b3 No.41772
Finished reading this today. I found the last few chapters incredibly disturbing. I was decently into the lesbian relationship for most of the book, but the final overwhelming impression it left me with is to never trust a woman. Overall very engaging and I recommend it.
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51e634 No.41773
>>41772
I didn't know Hitler was an oneesama.
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2ba996 No.41779
>>41773
Hitler (or Hitler-sama as she preferred to be known) was actually the president of the student council at an all-girls Catholic school before she fought in WWI. The backbone of the SS during the Beer Hall Putsch was the harem of imoutos she accumulated during her school days.
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853ae7 No.41786
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14c87a No.41796
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0de275 No.41798
>>41779
>>41796
Where would Night of the Long Knives rank in the top 10 anime betrayals?
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512c0d No.41799
>>41798
Röhm-kun had it coming, so not that high.
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ed4281 No.41803
Second German Revolutionary Girl Strasser would have distributed her love equally among the German imoutos had baka Hitler not kill her.
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79937e No.44735
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11ad50 No.44736
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4387c8 No.45167
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5423bf No.46970
I have some questions for any of you.
>When did you start learning Japanese?
>When did you manage to read a manga, even with some difficulty?
>Today, can you read an entire manga without difficulty? Novel? Can you understand animes without subtitles?
>What do you think is missing in your learning to you get better?
I want the estimated time, please try to remember how many months and years when replying.
Thank you in advance for your responses.
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77b858 No.46983
>>46970
>When did you start learning Japanese?
Around three years ago.
>When did you manage to read a manga, even with some difficulty?
About three months into studying. My first was お姫様のひみつ by Morinaga Milk.
>Today, can you read an entire manga without difficulty?
Yes.
>Novel?
Depending on the novel I may need to make more or less use of a dictionary, but in general yes.
>Can you understand animes without subtitles?
Yes. Anime is actually extremely easy listening material because everyone speaks so slowly and enunciates so clearly.
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081f5c No.47128
>>46970
3-5 years ago.
I can't really recall accurately but I put starting reading off later than what I could have. Believe I also mostly read doujin manga in the beginning, not so much tanks. Kind of want to say 5-9 months. I've started doing some reading without a dictionary, with some difficulty, probably since around the 1 and a half year mark.
Yes, yes and yes, most likely. Depending on topic. Some things like Sci-fi might throw me off a bit since I don't read them much and might not have the vocabulary for some of it. I can read a lot of things without a dictionary and though I do come across some unknown vocabulary I can usually judge by context just fine, so sometimes I use one if I feel like it, sometimes I don't. I read manga where I know 100% of the vocabulary used, novels not so much.
I hold myself back by not doing anything specific to work toward getting better and just using the language to do what I like. Not very sociable and as such I've heavily neglected speaking and writing, so I'm weak in those areas and that's my main drawback. My pace has always been fairly slow and if you're motivated you could do much better than I have.
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3ef5cb No.48829
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432879 No.48838
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24195c No.49103
What should I place here?
Our translator told me that "ツ!" can be put as "–!!" but for this I don't know if the "ヒ"changes it or not.
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639e17 No.49106
>>49103
ツ is like an abrupt stop in these cases, so when it's "ツ!"the "-!!" works. In this case, since there's a "ヒ" it'd be like a quick surprised scared "hi".
I'd say change it to "Hii!!" or "Hih!!" just so retards don't think she's enthusiastically greeting someone.
Asked over in the Japanese thread on /a/.
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efab9f No.49107
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e8f9e7 No.49114
I'm almost done.
I just need need to know what "おわ—ッ!!" should translate to.
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70e5d3 No.49123
>>49114
I got it translated thanks to /a/.
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875b59 No.50679
I'd like to request for this glorious doujin to be translated:
https://exhentai.org/g/163411/298c46cd48/
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7b980d No.50680
Also a small thing that was posted in the VN thread a bit back, shouldn't be too much work and I'd like to see it translated.
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e449bc No.50681
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06c3a0 No.50682
>>50679
Oh and here's the e hentai link for those who can't get past the sadpanda
https://e-hentai.org/g/163411/298c46cd48/
Seriously, I think this the only doujin with Kos-mos and Shion that is 100% yuri. I'm really glad this exists.
>>50680
>>50681
>Chinese
Got a Japanese version instead?
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96a858 No.50690
>>50682
Someone put a bounty on it 4 years ago. Seems like something that'd be good to translate.
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9d2466 No.53685
Hey guys read this book it's good.
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