/sapphic/ - Sapphic Dreams

I fully expected Mulholland Drive to be in the list, I'm surprised it wasn't.

>>9

Well, this is rather embarrassing…

To make matters worse I also forgot to add films such as ‘Naissance des Pieuvres’/‘Water Lilies’, ‘My Summer of Love’, ‘Mädchen in Uniform’, ‘Fingersmith’, ‘Lost and Delirious’, ‘Bound’ & ‘Blue is the Warmest Colour’, and TV series such as ‘Xena: Warrior Princes’, ‘Buffy the Vampire Slayer’, ‘The L Word’ & ‘Orange is the New Black’.

On a slightly more positive note I finally got around to ripping two of my DVDs, namely ‘Fucking Åmål’/’Show Me Love’ & ‘But I’m a Cheerleader’, so I’ll see if I can’t make some better quality WebM clips from them.

>>10

>Fucking Åmål’/’Show Me Love’ & ‘But I’m a Cheerleader’, so I’ll see if I can’t make some better quality WebM clips from them.

Oooh yes please. I have fondness for both of those films.

>>6

Very nice rundown btw.

>>17

>>18

I still managed to forget All Cheerleaders Die, even though it was one of the films brought up in the WebM threads of yore.

No subtitles for the ‘Fucking Åmål’ clips btw. Only Danish, Norwegian, Swedish & Finnish ones on the DVD. There is an audio commentary with director Lukas Moodyson as well, which probably wasn’t included on the releases outside of Scandinavia, unless they added subtitles for that – something I have seen done a few times.

>>26

Such an awesome scene.

>>46

Yeah, out of all the films I have seen it is by far the one that feels genuine and believable. It really nailed the Scandinavian small-town feeling of the late 1990s. Some of the scenes are genuinely hard to watch, the entire birthday party scene in particular.

Anyone familiar with the music of Melissa Etheridge? She might be an artist for the music thread.

>>87

Holy moley! I just realised Michelle Williams is in it too! I knew there was something so familiar about Megan’s cheerleader friend…

Also, Melanie Lynskey is in it – she was married to Jimmi Simpson who was in ‘D.E.B.S.’, and Eddie Cibrian plays Cathy Moriarty’s son, Rock.

>>98

>Holy moley! I just realised Michelle Williams is in it too!

She's in a lot of queer friendly media.

I didn't recognise any of those other names. I remember Melanie Lynskey in 'Heavenly Creatures'. Had no idea she was married to Simpson (who is great in DEBS)

>>99

>She's in a lot of queer friendly media.

What a pleasant surprise! I didn't know that. The only thing I can remember seeing her in (other than But I'm a Cheerleader) is My Week with Marilyn.

>I didn't recognise any of those other names.

Cathy Moriarty was in Casper from 1995 - she was great as the villainous Carrigan - her husky voice is just to die for - Nika Futterman-tier easily.

I only remembered Melanie Lynskey as Charlie's somewhat ditsy, but loveable neighbour on Two and a Half Men. I can't recall where I've seen Eddie Cibrain before, but there is something really familiar about him…

And you are right about Jimmi - he is great in D.E.B.S., it wouldn't have been nearly as fun without him. The henchmen Lucy had working for her in the short film were just your standard villain henchman you will find any old action film.

>>108

>her husky voice is just to die for

I know right. Husky voices can be so sexy. Unfamliar with Nika Futterman, got a link to an example?

Love that scene in But I'm a Cheerleader

>>113

>Unfamliar with Nika Futterman, got a link to an example?

She is a voice actress - maybe you have heard her as Asajj Ventress on ‘Star Wars: The Clone Wars’, or strip club owner/stripper Velvet Velour in ‘Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines’?

Ahsoka Teams Up With Ventress [1080p]: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=DzI3JS22HaY

Velvet Valour - Chastity: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=fsWBTeoB1Xs

Oh, and be sure you wear your headphones when you listen to these – her voice is just pure sex.

>>117

>Oh, and be sure you wear your headphones when you listen to these – her voice is just pure sex

Thanks for the tip. Going to check them out.

>That webm.

Felt so bad for the blonde. Just used and shit on by pretty much everyone.

>>118

>Felt so bad for the blonde. Just used and shit on by pretty much everyone.

I felt bad for the Goth girl too. I should rewatch this - it's been a long while since I first saw it. I actually forgot what happened to the blonde; she was brought back to (un)life too, right?

ACD is a real nice, comedy - up there with D.E.B.S.

<tfw we will never get the promised sequel

>>120

IKR? It is a shame there are so few women with that kind of husky, almost hoarse voice.

Eartha Kitt definitely has that special kind of seductive voice too. She has that… thing.

Also, I got thinking about the similarities between LaF & Perry to Willow in ‘Buffy’. All three are redheads, Perry & Willow are both Jewish, all three are very bright and (LaF & Willow in particular, are) nerdy. Also, both Perry & Willow dabbled in magic without really knowing what the consequences might be.

While I do like lesbian vampires, I think I prefer lesbian witches. Sadly though, I can only think of three or so relevant films, and not a single book at the top of my head ;_;

>>149

If all else failed, the makers could have tried to get a sequel funded with IndieGoGo, or some other crowdfunding service. If someone can make a stunning and interesting film like ‘Like Me’ with crowdfunding, making a sequel to this shouldn’t be impossible.

>I can't think of any lesbian witches off the top of my head tbh. Well except Ruby I guess.

I hadn’t even counted ‘The Neon Demon’ when I tried to think of films with lesbian witches

‘The Craft’

‘Little Witches’ – a low-budget cash-in on ‘The Craft’ with more sexy witches set in a Catholic all-girls boarding school

‘5ive Girls’ – yet another film set in a religious school with girls in school girl uniforms. Ron Pearlman is the only familiar face in it.

As for lesbian vampire films, there is ‘Embrace of the Vampire’ from 1995, starring Alyssa Milano, and the 2013(?) remake. I found myself enjoying the remake more than the ’90s film. Someone on /tv/ recommend ‘Room in Rome’, starring Elena Anaya, who played one of Dracula’s brides in ‘Van Helsing’ (2004). Haven’t seen it yet, but it looks like it is worth checking out, and definitely a film fit for this board. Also Elena is a total qt 3,14.

Also, Atomic Blonde looks interesting – if only for the neon visuals. Anyone seen it? I kinda wanna give it a watch even if it is style over substance, and lacks all believability.

>>191

>lesbians in The Craft

wat? I don't remember that.

Looked a few times for Little Witches and can never find a source. 5ive Girls is added to the list.

Atomic Blonde - Well firstly understand that the entire sex scene is what you see in the trailer talk about ripped off. The movie is pretty standard propo where everyone is pretty much pic related. The ending is absurd. The soundtrack and style scores points so probs worth checking out.

>>195

>wat? I don't remember that.

Well, to be fair, it was only them sharing a quick kiss as part of the ritual. I remember it was an outside scene, and they were blessing some ceremonial dagger and sitting in a circle.

>Atomic Blonde

Yet another case of false advertising then. Looks like we might be able to get some kino banners out of it at the very least.

>>199

DL-ing now. I think the gif banners are best left to you though – you seem to have a knack for that.

There is a kiss scene in Decoys from 2003 that could have some banner potential too. I have cut all the reaction shots from the other party guests to them kissing.

>>201

>There is a kiss scene in Decoys from 2003 that could have some banner potential too.

Mmm, cropped it doesn't look that great.

>>203

Scratch that. Got a banner from the 2nd webm.

>>202

>Lol I've never heard of Decoys. That looks like a fun movie.

It is. There is a sequel too, starring Tobin Bell and Dina Meyer. If I remember correctly the only sapphic scene is that kissing scene. Wasted opportunity tbh.

>Ok, well don't be afraid to practise and play with the program.

I will. Just remember to keep your expectations set to ‘very low’, that way you won’t be too disappointed.

>Also any good shots/scenes from Atomic Blonde, post them here and I'll use those to work from as I don't have a copy.

Might as well take it from the trailer then, if they show everything in it.

>>205

>I will. Just remember to keep your expectations set to ‘very low’, that way you won’t be too disappointed.

Goal 1: Making gifs cropped at 300x100. You can move the crop outline around the image by clicking and holding the inner square.

Goal 2: Adding text to gifs

Do away with expectations except for the first two goals. When comfortable with 1 & 2 then Goal 3: Play with what you like to look at.

>>206

Here is the sapphic sequence from the red band trailer. Hopefully I’ll be able to get some better clips from the actual film later on…

I watched Jess Franco’s ‘Vampyros Lesbos’ from 1971 earlier today, and I really wanted to like it, but I found myself thoroughly disappointed and bored. The film moves at a very languid pace. One could argue that the slowness is meant to convey a dream-like mood and atmosphere, but I found it to be semi-pretentious in this case, made even worse by Franco’s constant zooming and moving camera. I swear there is at least one zoom in every scene in this film. It is very distracting.

The soundtrack is hit and miss – some parts of it is very nice and works very well in the scene, but others fall under the kind of late ’60s, early ’70s psychedelic prog music that is best left forgotten. The same goes for the shooting locations – there are some really beautiful locales in this film, Countess Carody’s island resort, her old mansion in the hills, and the psychiatrist’s office with the red leather sofa in particular. Then are are areas that are supposed to look nice, but look like something you might find in rural post-communist Eastern Europe or in a 1960s bachelor pad (what the fuck was up with that red fabric and threads hanging down from the ceiling? Was that commonplace in 1960s/1970s interiors?). There is also the fact that all the characters speak German in Istanbull, yet most of them have English names – this is a muddled retelling of Bram Stokers’ Dracula.

I did like some of the dialogue though – especially the dialogue between Linda and Countess Carody. Also, as somewhat of a connoisseur of (older, classic) sunglasses, I found the ones donned by Countess Carody and her silent manservant Morpho to be worthy of a mention – in fact, the costumes were very nice indeed. It is a shame the film is set back by Fracno’s parkinson’s-style camerawork and zooming, as well as the incredibly languid pace, all which contribute to make it borderline unwatchable.

>>238

>The 70s seemed to be the experimental decade for movies.

On the audio commentary track for ’Wrong Turn’, the director says that they were trying to emulate a 1970s style horror film, and it was in the 1970s with lighter cameras that allowed for more camera movement – sadly Franco appears to have taken that and run it into the ground.

There’s also the much laxer attitude towards adult themes of course, which was very restrictive and stifled creativity.

One review I saw of the film also commented on Franco’s camerawork, saying it felt like Franco wanted to make a porno instead, with the constant zooming and camera movement: http://www.fthismovie.net/2015/05/the-overlook-jess-franco-double-feature.html

I’m not sure if I should look up Franco’s ‘She Killed in Ecstasy’, which was filmed at the same time and with many of the same actors/actresses, or if I should move on to see more of Jean Rollin’s lesbian vampire films instead. Both directors have this unique dreamlike quality to their films, but I have never been bored during a Rollin film.

Sadly the subs wouldn’t work on these clips…

In this one Linda tells the shrink about her recurring dream about this mystery woman and how it has affected her mentally and physically (making her aroused, and made her orgasm more than once) – his advice is for her to get a new and better lover.

Linda arrives at the Countess’ private island to talk about her inheritance from Count Dracula and the legal matters surrounding that case. Instead the Countess suggests that they go skinnydipping before dinner.

Another very nice sequence in this beautiful and tranquil location, with this dreamlike quality to it – Franco’s zooming and camera movements are somewhat distracting though.

>>242

The one review I read (covering both ‘Vampyros Lesbos’ ‘She Killed in Ecstasy’) said to skip VL and just watch SKiE, which was commended for its weirdness.

Is ‘She Killed in Ecstasy’ /sapphic/ approved? If not I’ll skip that and move on to greener pastures… such as Rollin’s ‘Grapes of Death’ and ‘Two Orphan Vampires’.

Linda wakes up naked in her room after being molested by the thirsty Countess, finds a dress left for her and goes looking for her attacker…

Back in her ancestral home the countess goes on a monologue to her silent manservant Morpho about her hatred for men (‘Men still disgust me. I hate them all.’) and how she was saved from the rampaging and raping villagers by count Dracula a hundred or two hundred years ago; she can’t remember how long it was ago any longer. She also talks about her dreams, and show she has fallen completely under Linda’s spell, and how she must ‘initiate her into our circle.’

Carody watches Linda make love to her lover/boyfriend, then calls out to her in her dream, using her hypnotic pull to leave her sleeping lover and come to the Countess ancestral home.

Finally alone together, Carody tells Linda she has been waiting for her, then offers her a drink (blood), and tells her she is one of them now – ‘The Queen of the Night will bear you up on her black wings’. She tells Linda to save her, and falls back on the bed. As she embraces Linda, one of her former victims/lovers’ (the female Renfield character of the film) cries out the countess’ name in despair, possibly feeling that her bond to the countess has been broken and she has been replaced and betrayed by the countess’ and her latest victim.

I really like the scenes with Linda and Carody – their interactions are the highlights of this film, and the two play off the other nicely and the dialogue is interesting. It is a shame these scenes are buried under a mountain of boring, nonsensical padding scenes – even the two lengthy scenes where the countess performs her artsy nude show should have been cut significantly. Interestingly the nude show involves her kissing her reflection in a large mirror, seemingly in love with herself, just like Jesse in ‘The Neon Demon’.

>>243

That radio chatter coming in suddenly reminded me of the sentionaut doll with the radio chatter in Beyond the Black Rainbow

>>244

>webm

Lol Linda is totally in to her, why the need for drugging?

>Is ‘She Killed in Ecstasy’ /sapphic/ approved? If not I’ll skip that and move on to greener pastures… such as Rollin’s ‘Grapes of Death’ and ‘Two Orphan Vampires’.

There is a scene where she seduces a woman to get close enough to take her revenge but iirc that's the only sapphic content.

>>245

Digging Morpho's glasses. Is he human or also a vampire?

>>248

>Interestingly the nude show involves her kissing her reflection in a large mirror, seemingly in love with herself, just like Jesse in ‘The Neon Demon’.

Yes I saw that in one of the trailers. First thing I thought of too.

Thanks for making the webms and explaining the dialogue. I see what you mean about Franco zooming in practically every shot kek. I will probably seek out a copy in time.

>>251

>That radio chatter coming in suddenly reminded me of the sentionaut doll with the radio chatter in Beyond the Black Rainbow

I hadn’t thought of that, but now that you mention it it is reminiscent of the electronic voice/noise in ‘Beyond the Black Rainbow’. That same radio feed plays three times in the film (I believe); At the very beginning, as we see the rising sun over Istanbul, then when Linda sees the blood dripping down the window on the countess’ private island house, and then again at the very end. I wonder if there is any significance to that sound being played, and repeated thrice…

I didn’t notice at first, but the scene where Carody talks about her past, and her fixation with Linda mirrors the scene where Linda talks to her therapist (the worst shrink ever) earlier on.

>>251

>Lol Linda is totally in to her, why the need for drugging?

It is very queer indeed! My best guess is that she is feeding her some of her own blood in order to form some bond/connection with her. Later on, when they are alone in her ancestral house she handed her another drink of blood as well.

>Digging Morpho's glasses. Is he human or also a vampire?

I wish I could find out what model/make they are – I would totally wear them, maybe even indoors like Morpho.

At first I was certain he is human. There is a scene where Carody confronts Dr. Seward, claiming that he is trying to take Linda away from her, and the doctor, fearing for his life (and with good reason), calls for divine protection, reciting some bible verse in Latin. Cardoy shrinks back in horror, and calls upon Morpho, who isn’t having any of the religious mumbo-jumbo.

But, there is something about the ending that made me wonder… If you do see it, I’d certainly like to hear your take on the ending and the film in general.

>I see what you mean about Franco zooming in practically every shot kek.

I’m not the only one, the review I linked to earlier went into a rant about the camera movement:

<The main reason Vampyros Lesbos is unwatchable is Jess Franco's filming style, which I would describe as TILT/PAN/ZOOM. He simply cannot leave the camera alone. Far from suggesting anything through camera and lens movement, this interminable fiddling gives the impression that we are dealing with an inexperienced director suffering from a pathological urge to reframe shots while they're happening. It resembles a harried 1970s father over-using the zoom lens while making on-the-fly Super 8mm home movies. The zoom thing in particular occurs in almost every shot. It became so annoying that halfway through the film, I began to shout, "Stop it!" and "Just leave it alone!" and "Don't touch that damn thing!" and "Keep your goddamned hands off the fucking camera!" It was that nauseating. Good thing I was alone, and all the windows were closed.

>>253

I did not! But I will check it out ASAP. I see on Wikipedia that it didn’t receive the best reviews, but I thought it sounds very interesting. Also, the French title (‘Et mourir de plaisir’) translates as ‘And die of pleasure’ according to Wikipedia; I have heard somewhere that the French call orgasms ‘the little death’ (‘le petit mort’), which I thought was an interesting coincidence.

>>253

>that list

Who would think to rank Lust For a Vampire higher than The Vampire Lovers‽

And not only that, they rank Vampyros Lesbos even higher still? What absolute twaddle!

I decided to give Jean Rollin’s La Mort vivante / The Living Dead Girl from 1982 a watch today, having bought the DVD last year, but never found the time to see it, or even take it out the plastic wrapping. Having seen two of Rollin’s films prior (‘The Shiver of the Vampires’ & ‘Fascination’), I was looking forward to this, and I was not disappointed – this is my favourite Rollin film to date, and there are some really beautiful, grotesque and really sad scenes in this. It is also a lot more graphic than I expected, with a good amount of gore, as well as the blood, which is to expected from a Rollin film. Apparently Rollin had to resort to adding more gore and flesh-eating zombies, rather than a straight up vampire film – though purists may argue that ‘Fascination’ is not technically a vampire film either. IMHO this film easily beats ‘Vampyros Lesbos’, and Rollin makes Franco look like an amateur.

We should make our own top ten list of lesbian vampire films!

>>259

>What absolute twaddle!

kek

>Jean Rollin’s La Mort vivante

Oooh going to have to check this out. I watched Requiem for a Vampire (1971) a number of months back. It was pretty full on. There is this dungeon torture orgy scene that is just out of control.

Lol yes to a list.

>>265

I am a sucker for those dated or funny-sounding English expressions; codswallop, balderdash, pishposh, toodeloo, tallyho, collywobbles, trollop, &c.

>Oooh going to have to check this out. I watched Requiem for a Vampire (1971) a number of months back. It was pretty full on. There is this dungeon torture orgy scene that is just out of control.

I’ll have to check it out then! The top ten list on YT mentions ‘Rape of the Vampire’ (1969), ‘The Naked Vampire’ (1970) & ‘Lips of Blood’ (1975), as well as ‘The Shiver of the Vampires’ (1971), which I have already seen.

>Lol yes to a list.

How strict are we defining ‘vampire’?

I love ‘Fascination’, but you could argue that it isn’t a true vampire film – there is a cult of blood-drinking young women who lure in a victim to kill him and drink his blood to stay youthful and beautiful though, so in my book it is a vampire film, even though there are no supernatural bloodsuckers.

Same with ‘The Neon Demon’. Are they vampires or witches or just batshit crazy cannibals who ate the competition?

I think ‘The Vampire Lovers’ take the number one spot on your list as well?

Here is a really great site for high res posters and promo photos of older genre films btw: http://wrongsideoftheart.com/2009/03/the-vampire-lovers-1970-uk/

>>274

>I think ‘The Vampire Lovers’ take the number one spot on your list as well?

At the moment, yes 100%.

>How strict are we defining ‘vampire’?

I guess ingestion or use of blood? Countess Dracula she merely bathes in it, but I would argue it would count. And agree with you about Fascination. Neon Demon, I would consider them cannibal witches but then again you have the scene with Sarah and Jessie in the bathroom that is very vampyric.

>Here is a really great site

Cheers.

>codswallop

The best.

>The top ten list on YT mentions ‘Rape of the Vampire’ (1969), ‘The Naked Vampire’ (1970) & ‘Lips of Blood’ (1975), as well as ‘The Shiver of the Vampires’ (1971), which I have already seen.

I haven't seen the first two. Lips of Blood was ok, it even has a somewhat happy ending. Very slow moving.

>>277

>I guess ingestion or use of blood?

I wholeheartedly concur! As for sapphic content, it can only be (heavily) implied, as in Dracula’s Daughter, right?

The director of photography on The Neon Demon joked(?) that they were bloodsucking vampires in an interview, and they do use blood to sustain their beauty and youth, and the bathroom scene is indeed very vampiric.

Here is the first of three clips from one of the most memorable (IMHO) episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, namely Hush from season 4. Not only is it probably the eeriest horror episodes of the show, but it also introduces the character Tara Mclay, who dabbles in witchcraft and becomes the girlfriend of Buffy’s friend Willow. I remember seeing this on TV back when it first aired – the show was probably a little too mature for me at the time, this was in the very early ’00s (though it aired in 1999 in the US, it probably didn’t air here till 2000-2002), so I hadn’t yet started junior high.

Handholding 😳

>>278

>As for sapphic content

Oh I was only focusing on the vampire element when replying. I wouldn't consider Countess Dracula to be sapphic.

>Hush from season 4

Such a great episode. The gentlemen are truly creepy. Iirc I was in year 12 during season 4. That episode where Oz comes back and it's revealed that Willow has feelings for Tara awh. It killed me when Tara died. I was so excited that she was finally part of the gang by being included in the opening credits and then bam, did not see that coming.

Although there were some fun episodes in S6, it should have ended with S5 imo.

Just found this kek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiIGaRIxfk0

Also a fav scene

>>281

Hush is the episode I remember best I think, though Go Fish, the one with the sea/pool monsters from season 1 and Der Kinderstod in Killed by Death were pretty creepy to. Did you notice that a young Wentworth Miller from Prison Break was in the Go Fish episode? He was one of the guys on the school swimteam.

>Giles’ overhead presentation

His drawings and the music playing for dramatic effect, as well as the over-acting of everyone to compensate for their lack of a voice… It is really funny, yet the episode is probably one of the gorier ones of the show, and the Gentlemen are legit creepy. I think it balances the humour and the horror in a brilliant way though. Didn’t Whedon decide to make the episode because critics claimed the show’s only saving grace was the witty dialogue and quirky humour?

There was an earlier episode where the Scoobie Gang meet their doppelgängers from an alternate dimension, and Willow’s is a lesbian vampire.

>I was so excited that she was finally part of the gang by being included in the opening credits and then bam, did not see that coming.

If I remember correctly that episode was the only one were she was listed as one of the main characters too ;_;

Tara was the loveliest and sweetest girl on the show.

The only episodes that come to mind from season 6 is Once More, With Feeling, which was great, and the only one shot on actual film in widescreen if I remember correctly, and the one were Xander leaves Anya by the altar on their marriage day, and lastly, the found footage-style one with Andrew – or was that season 7?

>>282

My reaction exactly. “I am not so much disappointed as I am blinded by rage.”

Whedon was the George R. R. Martin of TV back then, killing of characters to create drama. Joyce’s death was bad enough, but this shit just won’t fly. This is part of the reason I’ve never bought season 6 or 7 on DVD. I picked up seasons 1-4 (and the first half of Angel, season 1) on VHS some years ago as well – thankfully I was able to find a UK/US release, so there aren’t any annoying hardcoded subtitles in the way.

>>283

Is it just me or does Tara’s brother look an awful lot like Jay from RLM?

>>286

>I remember best I think, though Go Fish, the one with the sea/pool monsters from season 1.

I can't remember this one. I really need to watch the early seasons again some day. The only swimming one I remember is when Xander joins the swim team and Cordelia starts seeing him in a different light.

>Didn’t Whedon decide to make the episode because critics claimed the show’s only saving grace was the witty dialogue and quirky humour?

No idea.

>If I remember correctly that episode was the only one were she was listed as one of the main characters too ;_;

Yes, so cruel to do that. Once More, With Feeling was great, and I liked the psychotic breakdown/drugged psychosis episode as well in S6.

>the found footage-style one with Andrew – or was that season 7?

I can't remember that one and I didn't watch S7. I think I had outgrown it by that stage, and the characters had stopped developing but become caricatures of themselves. Look at how much they change in the first 3+ seasons in how they approach life and handle situations to the later episodes. I remember watching the first ep of S7 and seeing that they were just circling in on themselves (going back to the school? pls) and dropped it. My friends convinced me to watch the finale and it all seemed so stupid. Particularly with Anya's death (the final insult) while one or two of those rat coward nerds survived. I like to pretend S7 never happened, in the same way that I pretend the Hobbit trilogy was never made.

>Is it just me or does Tara’s brother look an awful lot like Jay from RLM?

I don't watch RLM but lol YES.

>There was an earlier episode where the Scoobie Gang meet their doppelgängers from an alternate dimension, and Willow’s is a lesbian vampire.

And vamp Willow kept hitting on human Willow. Sorry for silent webm, the sound was out of sync.

>>298

>I really need to watch the early seasons again some day. The only swimming one I remember is when Xander joins the swim team and Cordelia starts seeing him in a different light.

That’s the one. I should really revisit the show as well. I caught the episodes back when they aired here, then I binge watched the show as I got the DVDs, but that is years since now. Not to mention I still have all those seasons of ‘Xena: Warrior Princess’ to finish as well…

>My friends convinced me to watch the finale and it all seemed so stupid. Particularly with Anya's death (the final insult) while one or two of those rat coward nerds survived. I like to pretend S7 never happened, in the same way that I pretend the Hobbit trilogy was never made.

I caught the odd episode of the last two seasons, but I don’t think I have watched them all. The show should have ended with season 5 tbh. There was a lot of bad shit in the last two – Tara getting killed & Willow briefly turning evil because of it, Xander leaving Anya on their wedding day, the nerds being the big bad villains, Spike being basically castrated and turned into a rapist, Willow hooking up with this completely forgetable Kennedy(?) chick…

I’m with you all the way on pretending season 7 never happened – in fact, I may go further and say that season 6 didn’t happen either. I haven’t read any of the comics (season 8 & beyond), but I know that Buffy had a brief sapphic tryst with a fellow slayer.

I’ve only seen the fan edit of The Hobbit films, that shortened them down into one film, cutting all the nonsense Jackson put into it, and it wasn’t even good then.

>I don't watch RLM but lol YES.

I used to catch some of their Best of the Worst episodes, but I have come loathe them, and I regret ever wasting my time on them. I’d rather watch Tara’s brother review films online now tbh.

>And vamp Willow kept hitting on human Willow.

HNNNNNNG

Let me know if want me to make some WebMs from the show btw – I have seasons 1-5 on DVD so I can easily rip them and make some clips. If the file is too big I could always upload them on mixtape.moe, so the quality doesn’t suffer too much.

>>309

I only caught a few episodes now and then of ‘Xena’ & ‘Hercules’ (which is shite). I did see quite a few episodes of the similar ‘Robin Hood’ show though – it even featured Christopher Lee as a recurring guest character. All three shows have that late ’90s early ’00s charm to them though.

I’ve been meaning to watch ‘Xena’ for ages now, but I’m not really feeling it yet – I think it is the constant travelling and the obviously not Greek setting that bugs me the most.

>>310

I don’t think I remember that scene – do you know which season/episode?

Here are better versions of the earlier clips – the DVD source is not the best though. Did they ever release it on Blu-ray?

BtVS 3x16 - Vamp Willow: https://my.mixtape.moe/siytnc.mkv

BtVS 3x16 - Kinda gay: https://my.mixtape.moe/uzqhjt.mkv

BtVS 3x16 - Hands!: https://my.mixtape.moe/hwivlm.mkv

>>318

>‘Robin Hood’ show

I don't remember this. It might not have aired here. Xena is mega camp and silly. I just get sucked into soap opera style narratives. So watching the marathon got me suckered in as I became aware of the overarching stories guiding the series. Plus there is so much sapphic teasing it's unfair.

>I don’t think I remember that scene – do you know which season/episode?

Unfortunately no. One of the characters (probably Willow) had somehow got some power and said something like "Amy would be human again" and it cut to her transforming. I wish I could remember. I guess from season 3 or 4?

>Did they ever release it on Blu-ray?

Not sure. You'd think they would have by now. Thanks for the links.

>>320

Housewife looks like a nice nice example of a film that overlap the two boards tbh.; it looks stylish, there might be a cult carrying out some nefarious rituals, and maybe something occult going on, qt girls making out, and people getting killed with butcher knives.

Any idea where we might find it online?

HOUSEWIFE

There's Only You And Your Dreams

On a snowy eve, Little Holly's sister and father are killed by her frantic mother. Years later, Holly is married, lonely, and her life is soon about take a turn for the ultra weird, when she visits "Umbrella of Love and Mind".

[BHFF 17] ‘Housewife’ is a Dive Off the Deep End into Unleashed Dream Logic - Bloody Disgusting: http://archive.is/f7tso

Can Evrenol's HOUSEWIFE Trailer Brings the Terror Home: http://archive.is/J0fsG

I checked out /cow/ just a few minutes ago, and I saw that You-Know-Who’s thread is still up and thriving. It also reminded me of Gosling’s Lost River, which I haven’t seen yet, despite having bought the Blu-ray ages ago v maybe we should add it to the list?

>>320

>Have you guys watched Housewife yet?

Nope. Am up for this one.

>>321

>It also reminded me of Gosling’s Lost River, which I haven’t seen yet, despite having bought the Blu-ray ages ago v maybe we should add it to the list?

I've seen this one. While stylistically it would fit our film discussions, I wasn't a big fan of the film overall. But I wouldn't mind watching again for discussion.

>>332

I remember making that comment in one of the WebM threads when we(?) briefly mentioned Rachel Weisz.

I started seeing Constantine yesterday, and she is in that too, which I had completely forgotten. Probably because the film is shit.

Guess who else is in Disobedience?

>>333

I think this could be a perfect film to start this sapphic film club with. Unless, of course, I am the only one who hasn’t seen it yet.

>>340

Aw, schucks!

In that case I am wide open to suggestions.

>>341

>trying to appease progressive sensibilities.

You have no idea. It's chockas.

>probably try to not fetishize lesbianism in the process of telling the story

Not sure about this one. A lot of people didn't like this because the sex scenes were like something out of a porn film catering to men and not at all representative of lesbians irl.

>They're stories where the characters happen to be lesbians rather than a study on the lesbian identity of sorts.

This. Same goes for The Hunger.

>and sometimes it doesn't even cast them in a good light

Pretty much most of the time. This is a main contention in the queer community to have lesbians that don't turn out to be evil witches/cannibals/vampires/psychopathic killers in media representation.

I found the lead characters unlikable, and the movie propaganda. Personally, coprophilia is not my thing and it's in fucking everything now. I made these three webms before deleting it.

>Check out the other club. Let's seize Labor Day (I'm assuming you guys have a holiday like I do)

Our labor day has passed. But I can watch something this week anyway!

>>345

>>349

The only good film with lesbians in it that wasn’t a comedy or horror film, and took itself and the characters seriously, is Fucking Åmål / Show Me Love. It didn’t sugar-coat things, or try to push an agenda – it just showed how difficult teenage love can be, and it captured that perfectly.

I think Disobedience could be decent though, since it depicts how certain religious communities try to stifle these ‘forbidden’ romances, and force people into living unhappy lives, pretending to be someone they are not. Now, if they made a film like this with Mohammedans, I’d be impressed.

In fact they did do that in a TV show here, with one Mohammedan girl falling in love with a Norwegian girl, and her family (I think it was her brother) killing her to protect the family’s ‘honour’.

Now, as for the sapphic film club, why not kick it off with the Carmilla adaptation WebMAnon/BO brought to my attention: Blood and Roses (Et mourir de plaisir) from 1960, directed by Roger Vadim?

>>351

>It didn’t sugar-coat things, or try to push an agenda – it just showed how difficult teenage love can be, and it captured that perfectly.

Agreed.

>In fact they did do that in a TV show here, with one Mohammedan girl falling in love with a Norwegian girl, and her family (I think it was her brother) killing her to protect the family’s ‘honour’

Honestly surprised the tv show makers weren't arrested for hatespeech. I guess Norway isn't as bad as the UK yet.

>Now, as for the sapphic film club, why not kick it off with the Carmilla adaptation WebMAnon/BO brought to my attention: Blood and Roses (Et mourir de plaisir) from 1960, directed by Roger Vadim?

What a fantastic suggestion. I'll see if I can find a copy.

>>310

>>311

Phew! Turns out that was the episode just prior to Hush, so it was on the same disc, and luckily I had all the episodes ripped.

It is also the episode were Willow’s spellwork causes Buffy & Spike to fall madly in love with each other, and Giles & Riley’s reactions to that is pure gold.

>>367

You found it! Poor Amy. Thanks.

Well I just finished Blood & Roses. Very glad that we came across it. The music, and settings are beautiful. I want to live in that house. It's rather light on the sapphic nature of Carmilla and is not particularly faithful to the novella. More so than Twins of Evil, probably about the level of Lust for a Vampire.

>>371

>Technical things first: The subtitles moved a bit too fast for my liking

Same. Some lines flashed up for less than a second! The less than stellar audio could be the quality of the print that was transferred. Perhaps when it was originally released it was fine.

>the Karnstein sonata were truly beautiful

I loved it as soon as I heard it. Will see if I can find a copy.

>I also liked the detail of Carmilla’s languid movements during daytime.

Me too.

>I liked the ambiguity of whether or not she had actually been possessed by the spirit of Mircalla, but they threw that out at the end.

I thought they were going with that angle as well but it was the doctor's rationalisation of what happened. As we can see what happened to Georgia.

>why she put up with him treating her like that is beyond me.

She was in love with him.

>They immediately jumped to the conclusion that Carmilla was responsible for the death of Lisa (the maid), and for the marks on Goergia’s neck!

Lol, I was like "how did they reach that conclusion so fast?" as well. But I guess because of the family legend it clicked for them?

>The black & white dream sequence felt hollow and there for the sake of being artsy. I gathered that the nurses’ hands being red with blood symbolised Carmilla having blood on her hands for what she did and possibly her sins of the past, but the rest of it didn’t feel like it had any deeper meaning behind it.

I really liked that sequence. I read it as Georgia's journey into the underworld, passing by all of Mircalla's past victims, finally reaching Carmilla and then Mircalla taking Georgia. Also it looked like when she sees Leopoldo and Carmilla on the horse it was showing Ludwig rescuing Mircalla in the past.

>>371

>The best scene IMHO was the greenhouse scene, where Carmilla and Georgia seek shelter from the rain, and Georgia hands her the rose, which witters in Carmilla’s hand. I really liked that scene.

Yes that scene was great. I couldn't help but be reminded of the rainy kiss in Desert Hearts.

>>373

>the rainy kiss in Desert Hearts.

Forgive the Italian dub. The file has duel audio with Italian being the primary and I don't know how to webm with the secondary audio.

>>371

>I also detested that Carmilla supposedly was in love with Leopoldo, and that she was deadly jealous he was marrying Georgia. This also according to the apparently psychic doctor.

Lesbians aren't allowed to exist. Particularly at the time the movie was made. So of course they had to make it that she was actually in love with Leopoldo and her female victims were because she loved him even though they even say at one point that she has to love the victim to turn them. Stupid movies.

>>378

And I'm an idiot for not recognising sarcasm or whatever CRP stands for.

>>380

>I’m not sure I agree with that – this was made (and set) in 1960, so I doubt if it was outlawed.

I was just being snarky. I meant in terms of marketing to audiences. Like Bend it Like Beckham changed the story from the the two girls falling for each other to them liking men. I also wonder if the original story in Bring It On had the two leads hooking up and was changed to Dunst falling for Dushku's brother.

>Did you read anything into the swimming part of the sequence?

I saw it as reinforcing the idea that this sequence was dreamlike/another world type thing.

>Guess that is why the Habsburgs were mentioned…

When incest is more acceptable than lesbianism. Top Kek. I definitely would have liked to have seen more scenes exploring the dynamic between Georgia and Carmilla. I think the main value I got out this was the soundtrack.

>>381

>I was just being snarky. I meant in terms of marketing to audiences.

Well played. Feels like false advertising was a thing even back in 1960. A lot of studios cut the trailers to appeal to audiences, then screw them over. Some even shoot scenes exclusively for the trailer.

Nothing a fanedit can’t fix though.

>I saw it as reinforcing the idea that this sequence was dreamlike/another world type thing.

Leopoldo invited Carmilla to tag along to their honey moon to some paradisiacal place, with clear water and sandy beaches, so it might be a reference to that.

>I think the main value I got out this was the soundtrack.

Seconded. Some scenes were fantastic, like the scene where Carmilla finds her ancestor’s tomb, the fireworks scene and the half-kiss in the greenhouse. Even the scene where Carmilla and Leopoldo play the piano together was nice as well, and it made me warm a little to Leopoldo, same with the scene where he runs after Carmilla near the end.

There is something really familiar about the actor who plays Leopoldo, but I can’t put my finger on it. He sorta reminds me of Chris Sarandon from Dan O’Bannon’s criminally underrated ‘The Resurrected’ from 1991.

>>389

>There is something really familiar about the actor who plays Leopoldo, but I can’t put my finger on it.

Anon wth I was thinking the exact same thing. He's so familiar. I was thinking maybe he's been in some British or American stuff. I'm going to check right now. Got it, I recognise him from The World, The Flesh and the Devil which I saw some years ago.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053454/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_89

and Sex and the Single Girl which wasn't that great, I don't even remember his character.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058580/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_74

He was also apparently in an episode of Wonder Woman and an uncredited part in Charade. AND he's in a movie called The Norseman which I think you'll agree will have to be on the list in either of our film clubs.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078007/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_39

>A lot of studios cut the trailers to appeal to audiences, then screw them over. Some even shoot scenes exclusively for the trailer.

I would love to see the original cut of Death Becomes Her. The trailer is a different movie! They cut out an entire character.

>>391

>AND he's in a movie called The Norseman which I think you'll agree will have to be on the list in either of our film clubs.

That’s it! He played King Eurich in that one! I can’t believe I recognized him with the ridiculous wig and beard he wore in that…

It is a thoroughly terrible film, and possibly the least historically accurate viking film ever made. The whole crew wear their metal breastplates(!) and horned helmets as they row(!) through a storm. You can also see oil tankers sailing by in the far distance when they walk on the beach. It isn’t quite in the same league as ‘The Room’ in terms of guilty pleasure enjoyment, but it should be interesting indeed to hear what you think of it if we decide to watch it in any of the ‘film clubs’. It might be nice to watch something completely different from the critically acclaimed films we’ve seen so far.

American International Pictures made another viking film too, The Saga of the Viking Women and Their Voyage to the Waters of the Great Sea Serpent, which was directed by Roger Corman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Saga_of_the_Viking_Women_and_Their_Voyage_to_the_Waters_of_the_Great_Sea_Serpent#Reception

>>391

I haven’t seen that – gonna have to add it to my list. It’ll be interesting to see Meryl Streep in a horror comedy about zombies. Didn’t she also star in the infamous ‘Caligula’ too?

>>395

>It is a thoroughly terrible film, and possibly the least historically accurate viking film ever made.

Oh it's so added to my list (and the Viking Women as well)

>I haven’t seen that – gonna have to add it to my list.

One of my favourite movies. Though it does make me feel a bit sick seeing how Streep might perhaps be a total scumbag irl. I still haven't seen Caligula, can't see Streep's name in the cast list, but Helen Mirren is in it.

>>396

>Oh it's so added to my list (and the Viking Women as well)

U-oh, are you in for a ride.

Have you seen Room in Rome? Someone (you?) suggested it in one of the WebM threads over at /tv/, and it looks like it would be a perfect fit for this board.

>Though it does make me feel a bit sick seeing how Streep might perhaps be a total scumbag irl.

Yeah, that seems to be all too common with Hollywood celebs these days. Seeing them virtue signal in interviews and social media can really ruin how you feel about them. Didn’t Helen Mirren turn out to be a virtue signalling scumbag too? I seem to recall she made some asinine speech where she parroted the usual talking-points verbatim.

>I still haven't seen Caligula, can't see Streep's name in the cast list, but Helen Mirren is in it.

wew I can’t believe I got the two of them confused… The director of ‘Caligula’ decided to shoot and add hardcore porn scenes to his film, so I doubt any of the now-big name actors and actresses in it look back on that film favourably. I think there is a scene with some chick getting fucked by a horse too – simulated of course, but definitely not something you would expect to see in a big budget mainstream Hollywood film starring Helen Mirren and Malcolm McDowell.

While waiting for Darling to finally DL, I decided to check out Death Becomes Her, and I loved it. Definitely buying it on Blu-ray (if i can find it). It is a brilliant dark and twisted comedy, and I’m so glad you recommend it.

I doubt it could have been made in the current year, and it even made fun of the beauty hysteria and vanity of Hollywood, with aloof celebs who live all alone in their gated, opulent marble-floored mansions… Madeline’s comment that she hadn’t seen a single neighbour after living in LA for twelve years was great, and the theme of these beauty-obsessed celebrities selling their soul (in this case quite literally) to achieve eternal beauty and youth.

I wasn’t sure where it was going at first, but the scene that really sold me on the film was when Helen is selling the idea of murdering Madeline to Ernest – from then on I was hooked.

There were to scenes in particular that made me think that Lisle was a daemon/Satan:

I) The scene were Ernest wakes up, looking at the glass-painting of ‘The Creation of Adam’, and she is trying to make him drink the potion.

II) When Helen & Madeline attend the funeral at the end, with the half-open door next to them, there is a red light shining through and on the wall behind them – probably from a glass-painting, but it made it seem like the red fires of Hell are waiting for them.

Imagine a Death Becomes Her/The Neon Demon crossover, where Jesse would wake up (dead) at the bottom of the pool, and force Ruby to do her make-up and make her look alive, just like she does on the bodies at the morgue – actually, maybe Ruby would be even more into Jesse dead…

>>401

>Have you seen Room in Rome? Someone (you?) suggested it in one of the WebM threads over at /tv/, and it looks like it would be a perfect fit for this board.

Wasn't me but also saw the recommendation and added it to the list. Should we make it our next adventure on /sapphic/ film?

>Didn’t Helen Mirren turn out to be a virtue signalling scumbag too? I seem to recall she made some asinine speech where she parroted the usual talking-points verbatim.

Streep did at some awards show. Not sure about Mirren.

>so I doubt any of the now-big name actors and actresses in it look back on that film favourably.

Wasn't Stallone in a porn before hitting it big too? I vaguely remember Mirren sticking it to some interviewer who tried to make her uncomfortable about being nude in movies when she was younger. Maybe it was Parkinson.

>I decided to check out Death Becomes Her, and I loved it.

So glad you did! It's one of those movies I can watch again and again. The noir/satire/story/music/acting are just spot on. The original cut supposedly has Helen and Madeline retaining their beautiful looks right to the end where they observe an elderly Ernest enjoying his life with his love (Tracy Ullman) and they're saying how happy they are not to be them but really you see how empty their 'lives' are. I would love to see the original cut. They changed it after audiences found the ending too heavy iirc. Lisle is definitely somewhere in that realm. That's another thing I think they changed. There is a stronger implication that she disposes of those who reject her offer. I have a DVD copy. I remember looking for a Blu-ray a few years back and it hadn't been released.

>When Helen & Madeline attend the funeral at the end, with the half-open door next to them, there is a red light shining through and on the wall behind them – probably from a glass-painting, but it made it seem like the red fires of Hell are waiting for them.

I've never noticed that!

>Imagine a Death Becomes Her/The Neon Demon crossover, where Jesse would wake up (dead) at the bottom of the pool, and force Ruby to do her make-up and make her look alive, just like she does on the bodies at the morgue – actually, maybe Ruby would be even more into Jesse dead…

Ruby fucking that corpse was the most confused boner I've ever experienced. I don't want to even let the thought of your scenario enter my mind.

>>403

>Wasn't me but also saw the recommendation and added it to the list. Should we make it our next adventure on /sapphic/ film?

That must mean we have another lezbro on /tv/! RiR gets my vote. Hopefully there will actually be something worth talking about and analysing.

>Wasn't Stallone in a porn before hitting it big too?

I think so, Italian Stallion(?). He has got to be the only Hollywood A-list celeb to have done the jump from porn to blockbusters.

>The noir/satire/story/music/acting are just spot on.

Hear, hear! I’m not a Bruce Willis fan, but he was actually really great in this. I love these films that show the shadow side of Hollywood/LA; Starry Eyes, The Neon Demon, and now Death Becomes Her. I did think the ending felt a bit off after Ernest manages to get away, but I had no idea they had completely changed the original ending! That is crazy. I hope the original ending and any other scene they cut will be released on Blu-ray. Is there an audio commentary track on the DVD?

Lisle’s role also seemed to have been cut short, it felt like the big meeting of all the ‘dead’ celebrities was leading up to something big.

Do you think Helen & Ernest really planned to plant that many bottles in Madeline’s car? I love how it blew up immediately though, just like Kristoff’s sledge in Frozen.

>Lisle is definitely somewhere in that realm.

Can we also all agree that Isabella Rossellini stole every scene she was in?

The film reminded me of the story ‘Marriage Vow’ from ‘The Haunt of Fear’ #26: http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryRoom.asp?GSub=19942

>Ruby fucking that corpse was the most confused boner I've ever experienced.

For me it was while watching Alien, you know the scene where Ripley is in the escape pod and she is stripping down to her underwear so she can go into the cryo chamber, unaware that the alien/xenomorph is in the escape pod with her.

Leave it to NWR to make a necrophilia scene hot. I completely disagree with the reviewers who claimed that he was trying to be shocking and outrageous with that scene. I don’t think that was the case at all.

>I don't want to even let the thought of your scenario enter my mind.

I think it is a bit too late for that now…

Maybe then Ruby would want to eat her out instead of eating her.

>>409

>That must mean we have another lezbro on /tv/!

Yes I think so. The one who loves the Carmilla line You are mine, you shall be mine, you and I are one forever. Unless that was you? Maybe I should start a sapphic webm thread on /tv/ to advertise this board so other sapphic enthusiasts can join us.

>RiR gets my vote. Hopefully there will actually be something worth talking about and analysing.

Alright I'll see if I can get my hands on a copy.

>I hope the original ending and any other scene they cut will be released on Blu-ray.

I hope so. It's not just the ending. Tracy Ullman plays a bar tender or something that helps Ern fake his death to escape from the undead. All of it was cut! No commentary on mine unfortunately :(

>Do you think Helen & Ernest really planned to plant that many bottles in Madeline’s car? I love how it blew up immediately though, just like Kristoff’s sledge in Frozen.

That sequence is so over the top. I don't think they had planned practicalities just enjoyed the fantasy of it. I love how her charred hand is still holding a bottle at the morgue.

>Can we also all agree that Isabella Rossellini stole every scene she was in?

100% Her voice and accent are to die for.

>The film reminded me of the story ‘Marriage Vow’ from ‘The Haunt of Fear’ #26

Will check it out.

>I completely disagree with the reviewers who claimed that he was trying to be shocking and outrageous with that scene. I don’t think that was the case at all.

Same. Her actions interspersed with her fantasising about Jessie make clear Ruby's intense desire and longing.

>I think it is a bit too late for that now…

STAHP I'm degenerate enough as it is!

>>410

wew

>misplaced metal music

kek

>>411

>You are mine, you shall be mine, you and I are one forever.

That is my fav line, but whomever suggested that film must be one of us too. /u/ could be our sisterboard.

> It's not just the ending. Tracy Ullman plays a bar tender or something that helps Ern fake his death to escape from the undead. All of it was cut!

These test audiences, am I right? Better keep our fingers and toes crossed for a director's cut release, or at the very least a release where the cut scenes are included as bonus features.

I vaguely remember seeing this film called The Death Trap with Christopher Reeves, and I think it had the same dark gallows humour and murder planning as this one.

I looked for a DVD online yesterday, but I searched with the English title - I'll have to look for it with the Nor title, or swallow my pride and resort to Amazon.

>Will check it out.

I hope you like it! It is not the best story by EC Comics horror comics, but Graham Ingels is my all-time favourite illustrator/artist. No one could draw rotting corpses like that guy. Most of his stories rival Hammer when it comes to Gothic atmosphere as well.

>Her actions interspersed with her fantasising about Jessie make clear Ruby's intense desire and longing.

How did you interpret that scene? I think there is more to it than just there to be shocking or entice the audience. It does show Ruby doesn’t care about taboos, and that she does whatever she wants or needs without taking norms into consideration. It is interesting that instead of picking up some random girl she goes to a corpse – seeking love among the dead. Judging by her later actions she does seem to be drawn to the dead – the scene where she buries Jesse she appeared at peace and at home, resting and relaxing in the grave surrounded by the grass and the trees. There must be some reason why she sought out the dead chick though…

>STAHP I'm degenerate enough as it is!

Twaddle! You’re a good boy, Anon. You’ll find a nice (living) girl and settle down with one day.

>>409

>The film reminded me of the story ‘Marriage Vow’ from ‘The Haunt of Fear’ #26:

HA sucked in Martin!

>>417

>That is my fav line, but whomever suggested that film must be one of us too. /u/ could be our sisterboard.

How would one go about adding a sister board?

>There must be some reason why she sought out the dead chick though…

I think she saw the opportunity and just took it. Like she was compelled, overcome with longing for Jessie. Speaking of Compulsions…Oh my, I just stumbled across this movie Compulsion with Analeigh Tipton whom I've like ever since seeing her on ANTM. So I put it on and let it run in the back ground while cleaning etc. Had no idea what it was about and boy was there some sapphic content in this. Going to make some webms now.

>You’ll find a nice (living) girl and settle down with one day.

Finding an attractive non-braindead/hambeast/SJW seems absolutely impossible anon :(

>death's door

God I love that scene

>>426

>I’m not sure; ask the /bestemma/ BO, he’s already added three boards on /bestemma/: /tv/, /bane/ & /rolodex/. Pretty sure the fine folks over at u would be open to being our sisterboard given the similar interests.

Cool, I think I've got it. Just testing it out now on the test board.

>I assume she had developed real feelings for Jesse (or been blinded by her beauty) to the point that she was prepared to find someone else to feed on instead.

Agreed. When Jesse says she's a virgin in other words to Ruby and Ruby says I don't care, I took that as two fold. She telling Jessie it's ok she doesn't care, and she's also letting go of her plans for the ritual. She doesn't care anymore, she just wants Jessie.

>Also similarly to Jesse, the deceased girl is a beautiful young blond.

She lucked out that day.

>If we are correct in assuming that Ruby is actually much older than she looks, and she’s been doing this ritual several/many times, it could be that she is less concerned with out social taboos, and she would be used to dealing with dead bodies – both from her rituals and from doing the make-up of the bodies in the morgue.

I imagine she would be in a totally different head space to your average joe for sure.

>I’ll try and get it ASAP, so if you haven’t already seen RiR, we could do this one next

Sure, I haven't got RiR yet so happy to start with Compulsion. I wasn't paying much attention to it when I had it playing so I don't mind taking a closer look. As you can see above the sex scenes are spectacular. Heads up. The file I got had an audio lag. I was able to get it in sync close enough with -1500.

>>426

>Repilled and blueballed

>Not to mention it would be nice to find someone who shares your taste in films, TV, music & literature as well, which seems like a nigh-impossible goal in the current year.

Life is suffering

>Our good friends over at Shout! Factory released it on Blu-ray (region A) back in 2016

Yes! Will have to grab one for myself.

>>426

>Pretty sure the fine folks over at u would be open to being our sisterboard given the similar interests.

>>>/u/43949

>>430

I stand corrected, though I probably should have known better by now. If I ever need a reminder why we should gas the weebs I will just head over to /u/.

Maybe /girltalk/? Or are they mostly just shitposters?

>>428

wew

Look at you being all tech-savvy.

Srs, well done

>I imagine she would be in a totally different head space to your average joe for sure.

It would be reasonable to assume that her feelings for Jesse are a mix of love and hate at that point – she’s been rejected, and was even willing to let Jesse live, and perhaps she is still drawn to her, so she finds someone who reminds her of Jesse (the make-up and the blond hair).

I never noticed that there is some kind of tiny symbol in the ‘eyes’ on her drawings – it looks like black zigzag lines. Since it is on the eyes, could it be meant as eyelashes?

>Sure, I haven't got RiR yet so happy to start with Compulsion.

Yay! We’ve gotta stop picking these obscure films that no one seeds ;_;

>>429

>Life is suffering

A-at least we have memes.

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Go cry about it on /u/.

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>>433

>A new show, with sapphic content starring Natasha and Perry.

How wonderful! This looks like a lot of fun. I think Annie (Perry) likes to play these weird, alternative characters.

>they look like fake eyelashes stuck on the mirror.

Could it be that Ruby nicked a pair of fake eyelashes that belonged to Jesse? It seems like it would make sense that she would use some personal object or something to connect it to Jesse, almost like a form of voodoo doll.

>>460

>Could it be that Ruby nicked a pair of fake eyelashes that belonged to Jesse? It seems like it would make sense that she would use some personal object or something to connect it to Jesse, almost like a form of voodoo doll.

Oh of course! Didn't make the connection before.

>>463

>Good to know this board is not for me

You are correct. Brainlets wouldn't do well here.

>>463

>all nudity is pornographic

burgers were a mistake

>>464

>You are correct. Brainlets wouldn't do well here.

ughhh… why i can't those ignorant buffoons tell between pornography and true fine lesbian art? it maddens me to see these fools reproduce and pass down their inferior genes while true patricians like me can't even get a girlfriend

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>and you get upset

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Hey mate thanks, much appreciated. Will do. Peace.

>>475

>implying there's a competition

>>409

>For me it was while watching Alien, you know the scene where Ripley is in the escape pod and she is stripping down to her underwear so she can go into the cryo chamber, unaware that the alien/xenomorph is in the escape pod with her.

How about these scenes?

>>426

>ANTM?

Sorry, somehow skipped over this. America's Next Top Model. I don't even remember anyone else (except Sheena, she was cool) from that season (including the winner), but I always remembered Analeigh.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Next_Top_Model_(cycle_11)

>>480

>>481

No love for Creepy Chan (Allison Harvard)?

>>477

Resurrection was actually the first Alien film I saw.

I think I was too baffled by everything before that point to fully appreciate that scene. Looking back at it now, with the knowledge that all the aliens in the film are her ‘children’, it gives it an almost incestuous feel. Not Whedon’s proudest moment this, I think. There are tiny glimpses and ideas of something good in there, and some of the visuals are very good, but IMHO it would have been better to let the franchise be after the very disappointing Alien³. Ridley Scott’s latest train wrecks have made me appreciate everything that came before it a whole lot more.

All in all I think I like Resurrection better than 3. Maybe I should watch it again, I don’t think I have seen it in years.

>>483

LOVE Allison

>>486

I wish she would do more acting ;_;

What do you think about Allison as Ruby in The Neon Demon?

>>487

>What do you think about Allison as Ruby in The Neon Demon?

I'd imagine her more as Sarah's character.

>>488

I can totally see her as Sarah now that you mention it - they look eerily similar too in fact. Also Allison may look a bit too innocent for the role of Ruby; Jena did a very fine job portraying both sides of the character.

>>465

Seconded.

Reminds me of The Simpsons episode where the outraged moralists try to ban Michelangelo’s statue of David from being shown at the museum.

>>490

Lol I was going to post this with the others.

>>494

I love that trailer – probably my favourite film trailer of all time.

3 is a pointless mess – IMHO people want to like it because of the nice visuals and because David Fincher directed it. Even if the studio hadn’t fucked it up, it would have been a shameless cash-in and rehash of the original and Aliens. At least Resurrection tried something new and didn’t take itself seriously.

The Den of Geek interview: Dan O'Bannon | Den of Geek: http://archive.is/umPp

>>493

According to Wikipedia her acting debut was the 2012 indie film Insensate. She did another film (Dangerous Words from the Fearless) in 2014, but other than that she’s only been on TV as herself.

>>495

Oh my!

Someone on /tv/ mentioned Defiance a while back – Julie Benz (Buffy & Dexter) is in it too, though sadly the show looks a bit SyFy-y.

>>498

Jamie Murray and Julie Benz in the same show? Be still my beating heart. Still won't get me to watch the show because it looks terrible but maybe someone will post content. And is that Mia Kirshner (spelling?)?

>>511

Oh boy, here we go again!

Could Annie be any more adorable?

>>513

She's starting to grow on me. Like her character in this one so far. Did you watch all five? It actually had me laughing out loud in parts, like the brownie scene and date.

>>516

I just finished the first five episodes – liking it a lot so far. The humour is a lot more effective and hits better, and so far all the characters are likeable too.

After seeing Annie as the responsible Perry in Carmilla it is a bit weird to see her be the carefree and silly one, while Natasha is the straight(!) man.

The brownie scene was great – her freaking out, and the sound of the sirens in the background was a nice touch – like she is expecting the police to kick in the door any minute.

Also, the scene where Ruby comes up with solutions to their rent problem (camgirling and nude cleaning) was great, and she looks irresistible in that silk kimono nightgown of hers.

Also meant to ask, have you managed to get a copy of Compulsion? I'm going to watch it through properly tonight.

>>517

Skeletons and Suitcases cover has a very O'Keeffe feel to it kek.

>>518

Alas no – not yet. 11,35% done, and not the best DL speed atm.

As I was typing that Room in Rome finished DL though!

>Skeletons and Suitcases cover has a very O'Keeffe feel to it

It is very similar to the artwork that got Megan sent to True Directions in But I'm a Cheerleader as well. It is about as subtle as the Deadgirl/The Neon Demon poster of the lips tbh. The artwork of O'Keefe is really nice though, and I see on her Wikipedia article that she is listed under flower artists.

>>521

>It is about as subtle as the Deadgirl/The Neon Demon poster of the lips tbh.

kek

>and I see on her Wikipedia article that she is listed under flower artists

double kek

>As I was typing that Room in Rome finished DL though!

Should we do that one first then? I got a copy of it the other day so can watch that tonight instead.

>>523

>Should we do that one first then? I got a copy of it the other day so can watch that tonight instead.

My body is ready.

Make sure to avoid any chair-related accidents while watching it though, it could be one of those films, so safety first - strap down and maybe put on a helmet just in case.

>>529

>Make sure to avoid any chair-related accidents while watching it though

No promises.

Welp, gotta say RiR is one of the worst movies I think I've ever seen. I can't even bother writing properly so I'll just post my running commentary. I found so many things annoying that I starting writing notes during it.

Unrealistic characters

Russian (Natasha) says she's never been with a woman. Supposedly insecure

about her sexuality but doesn't act like it at all. There's a disconnect here

between the plot and the acting. I'm not finding them believable at all. Also

there is no introduction to the characters, why would I care what they have to

say?

Sound quality is all over the place. No fucking subtitles for Russian or Spanish,

was this intentional? It's annoying as fuck when there are multiple lines being

spoken. I'm guessing it's supposed to have subtitles and I got a fucking bare

copy.

>the wine bottle scene

>instead of fingers

Bullshit.

40 mins in, lol they keep getting angry at lies but neither has said one word of

truth the entire time? I keep hoping the movie will take a turn and they're

actually secret agents or some shit.

>I have a twin sister

My god, this script

Twin sister envious of her sister's abuse? This movie is retarded. The random

loud 5 second burst of operatic music.

52 min in

>carrying her on her shoulders

webm as retarded

The old switcharoo. It was she that was envious of her sister's abuse!

>DISCUSTING.jpeg

Absolutely degenerate. Neither of them should have kids let alone be

anywhere near them.

>nopeyou'regettinggassed.gif

>Dead boy

Couldn't care less by this point.

>green energy car convention

WHO THE FUCK CARES

74 mins in

SO BORED

>the artist must know at all times what he is presenting

Oh god was that a meta reference? You failed director/sciptwriter/everyone

that worked on this project, you failed.

80 mins in

Oh god, just end already.

I like the loving strangers song but don't know if I'll be able to separate it

from this abomination of a film in my mind.

84 mins

Oh my god I really hate them.

>Consierge is a part time opera singer for the second time.

Seriously, what the fuck.

90 mins in

It.just.doesn't.end.

97mins in

This movie just won't end.

Oh FFS I thought for sure the bath was the end scene before the credits but

NOOOOOO another absolutely pointless drawn out scene of them…dressing.

103 mins in

>brought to you by bing

Also the Spanish chick's eyes scare me.

Worst acting, worst script. Nuke from orbit.

>>531

I watched Room.In.Rome.2010.1080p.BluRay.x264-HCA – which had English subtitles – thankfully! I had to turn them on and off and then left them on in case I missed anything in Spanish/Italian/Russian. Irritatingly the love scenes were also subtitled: (Gasping) (Panting) (Smooching) &c., which really pulled me out of the film and at times very nearly made me laugh at the absurdity of it. Also, my copy is 7,94GB – thankfully there was at least one seeder with excellent upload speed seeding it.

What I did like: IMHO this film is beautifully shot – it reminded me of Hitchcock’s ‘Rear Window’ in the way we were confined to that one room, but we were treated to these glimpses of the outside. I liked the way Alba had to stand on her toes to kiss Natasha – which we saw twice. The shots of Amour in the ceiling painting were nice, and that actually led somewhere; the bathtub scene where Alba is in pain from Amour’s arrow and the bathtub filling with blood. That was by far my favourite scene of the film. If I’m not mistaken being hit by Amour’s arrow wasn’t always seen as a good thing in Greek mythology – it could be a painful and unwelcome experience.

When Alba told her story of escaping the harem in Saudi Arabia I immediately started suspecting Natasha and Max of being hired by the sheik to bring her back to Saudi Arabia. If it turned out to be Natasha I was expecting her to fall for Alba and change her mind at the end.

The whole scene about the wine bottle was when I really started having problems with the film. Even I know that vibrators/dildos (and perhaps especially strapons) are a meme. Max arriving and trying to get in on the action was beyond dumb. The incestuous relationship between Natasha’s twin and her father was truly terrible and completely unbelievable.

The film is incredibly formulaic: they talk about their outside lives (lying, bending the truth and wasting time on nonsense) and then we get a sex scene. Rinse and repeat. Both characters are assholes too – Alba in particular, who is cheating on her long-term lover, who has a young step-daughter. I wonder how much of the film was changed/expanded because they had to show off the Bing satellite images…

>Consierge is a part time opera singer for the second time.

All Italians sing opera, Anon. Just like all Asians know kung-fu.

Also, the way they just jump to the sex scenes without any build-up was very unsatisfactory – that should have come much later on in the film, after they’ve ‘earned’ it.

Two thumbs down?

>Russian (Natasha) says she's never been with a woman. Supposedly insecure about her sexuality but doesn't act like it at all.

Much better examples of this here >>99

and in the following webms.

>>536

>>535

>This felt like "I've come to clean the pool/deliver the pizza" tier.

Yeah, they might as well have used some groovy ’70s/’80s porn music playing over it, and then Max comes by with a pizza they’ve ordered.

>Also, that table scene. Wasn't Natasha supposed to be left handed? Or was that another lie?

It could be that Alba was expecting Natasha to use her left hand, but why would Natasha expect Alba to use her left hand, while using her right hand even though she is left-handed?

>>536

At first she seemed hesitant, but after she came back for her phone that was all gone and she acted like a pro.

It is a real shame the writing was so fucking bad, when it was so well-shot.

>>550

>>551

Aw, geez. I’m ashamed it took me this long to realise the connection between Ruby in the morgue and Jesse alone at home. It seems so damn obvious now though. Jesse found a way to have sex with Jesse without taking her virginity, which would make her useless in the ritual.

Her covering the eyes of the body seems like her clinging onto the illusion that she is there with Jesse.

I looked over the earlier scenes where Ruby does her make-up, but I didn’t see any false eyelashes – again there is an allusion to eyes though, the false eyelashes on the mirror and the symbol that appears to depict eyes with X-es over them, as if her eyes are closed; either to symbolise her impending death, or because Ruby can’t take Jesse’s eyes being on her, just like she covered the eyes of the body in the morgue. Also, at the end Gigi vomits up one of Jesse’s eyeballs, which Sarah then eats, so there could be something to this eye symbolism…

It is weird that the sex scene in The Neon Demon, which involves necrophilia, manages to be way better than the several sex scenes in Room in Rome combined. There isn’t any dialogue in the sex scene in TND, but there is a lot of emotion on display, and it isn’t just a meaningless fuck between two strangers, which is probably why the Room in Rome scenes fails.

>>552

>either to symbolise her impending death, or because Ruby can’t take Jesse’s eyes being on her,

crossed out eyes are a standard representation of death so I always read it as Ruby signifying that Jessie is definitely marked for death now.

>so there could be something to this eye symbolism…

There is also Jessie referring to the moon as a giant eye in the sky looking down on her.

>Jesse found a way to have sex with Jesse without taking her virginity, which would make her useless in the ritual.

I guess it also got rid of some of her sexual frustrations so that it would be easier for her to kill her when the time came? So that she was more clear headed and ruthless that night.

>and it isn’t just a meaningless fuck between two strangers, which is probably why the Room in Rome scenes fails.

This. In TND the characters are built up over time whereas in RiR it was like you two suck, just die already.

>webm filename

Top kek >>553

>>554

I found two interesting articles on the symbolism of the film last night:

"The Neon Demon" Reveals The True Face of the Occult Elite - The Vigilant Citizen: http://archive.is/0052k

Thou Art a Wickedness: Myth and Alchemic Beauty in Refn’s The Neon Demon – Henri de Corinth: http://archive.li/q6UhA

I think the first article misses the point somewhat, but it does bring up some very interesting points, especially the show Ruby, Gigi & Sarah take Jesse to at the beginning. It brings up Jesse talking about the moon as a eye watching her as well, and there is a shot from the premiere of NWR & Elle enjoying ‘eyeball’ lollipops, and a pyramid without the Eye of Providence in the background.

The article failed to see the connection between Ruby/the body and Jesse, and complains about it, completely missing the point.

The latter article is even more interesting, and it compares the film to the 2014 draft, which outright confirms that Ruby is a witch – in fact I think the script goes way too far, and the mentions of Aleister Crowley and animal sacrifice would have been too much. I prefer the much more ambiguous use of magic we see in the film – it alludes to magical practices and traditions far older than Crowley’s silly and twisted modern take on it, and it leaves you wondering and thinking about the story and the characters far more than it would if it turned out Ruby was sacrificing animals and reading Crowley.

Here is the interview where Jena Malone says that Ruby is “300 years old” and that Jesse is the “80th woman she’s done” the ritual with:

Inside The Year’s Most Shocking Movie Ending: https://web.archive.org/web/20160626194630/https://www.buzzfeed.com/jarettwieselman/inside-the-years-most-shocking-movie-ending?utm_term=.wxnPAPOa7m#.rfq8b8LOj5

>I guess it also got rid of some of her sexual frustrations so that it would be easier for her to kill her when the time came? So that she was more clear headed and ruthless that night.

Yeah, I don’t think Ruby is used to not getting things her way, so someone standing up to her/rejecting her would probably have been on her mind and she might have to get it out of her system and stay focused on the ritual.

>In TND the characters are built up over time whereas in RiR it was like you two suck, just die already.

That’s why no one should ever throw in a sex scene at the beginning with characters we couldn’t care less about – not even horror films do that. And it just kept going too, so I was just waiting for the break where they would go back to talk, but sadly it turned out both were cheating assholes, so the ‘plot’ turned out to be equally boring and annoying.

Hopefully Compulsion will be a better film experience.

>webm filename

I think it is interesting that Ruby wanted to look her very best for seducing Jesse – her foreplay could need some work though. Goodbye Horses is actually a very nice song, but there is no way you can’t imagine Buffalo Bill when you hear it now.

>>556

Checking the articles out now.

>That’s why no one should ever throw in a sex scene at the beginning with characters we couldn’t care less about

Lol iirc Compulsion does begin with a sex scene but I think it's to illustrate something about Sadie's character, though not sure.

>Hopefully Compulsion will be a better film experience.

My half assed viewing of it while doing other things already found it a much better viewing experience. Enough to want to watch it again more carefully. The dynamic between the characters blows RiR out of water imo as evidenced in webm related.

>>564

>Kiss My Blood

Is it worth checking out?

As for We Are the Night For some weird and unexplained reason I can’t shake off the feeling that it is gonna end with the guy killing the vampiress and get the girl…

There is a low budget British film from 1998 called Razor Blade Smile where the vampiress assassin picks up a chick who adores vampires at a bar and takes her back to her place, only to kill her and set the place on fire according to a YT video/review I have seen of it. So it seems a bit light on sapphic content.

>>565

>Is it worth checking out?

Just watched it again via YT in German with no subtitles and still had a good time. It's got some aesthetic scenes and comfy music. I must have first seen this on late night tv when I was 15 or 16. I'm sure it had no lasting affects on my psyche whatsoever…

Also one of the actresses reminds me of Toni Collette.

>>566

>Well it kept my teenage attention. I remember laughing at this scene where a cult is trying to communicate with the devil or something. And I remember invested enough to care about what happened to the characters in the end. It looks a bit direct to dvd/tv movie though.

That's enough for me! I love direct-to-DVD films, and films about cults and Devil-worship in particular.

>Well you're just going to have to watch it and find out!

Challenge accepted!

>I think I may have seen [Razor Blade Smile] and it was terrible?

I think you are correct. It does seem to have been made with heart though, if that counts for anything: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhyvEZqx8X0

>>567

Will it work for me without any nostalgia goggles?

I also found this film yesterday, Naked Killer from 1992. According to Wikipedia it is considered a cult classic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_Killer

>>568

>Will it work for me without any nostalgia goggles?

Honestly not sure. I definitely got nostalgia vibes watching it and remembering scenes so that would have definitely increased the fun factor.

>I also found this film yesterday, Naked Killer from 1992. According to Wikipedia it is considered a cult classic

Nice. Will definitely have to check that out.

>>571

Never change, Anon!

For those who haven’t already heard it; Joss Whedon’s audio commentary on Hush: https://my.mixtape.moe/acopdr.ogg

Thinking about doing second viewing of seasons 1-5, and listening to the audio commentary tracks this time around – I think I only listened to one or two the first time I binge watched the show on DVD.

Still stuck on 65% with Compulsion ;_;

>>579

Man that Bess sounds like a real c u next tuesday

>Still stuck on 65% with Compulsion ;_;

So frustrating, I feel your pain. The version I got was really quick (it does have that audio lag; easily fixed with MPC-HC player though) 18+ Compulsion 2018 UNCENSORED Movies 720p BluRay x264 5.1 ☻rDX☻

>>580

>Man that Bess sounds like a real c u next tuesday

That’s being too kind – she managed to seduce the husband and he knocked her up. Some (girl)friend, huh?

According to Wikipedia Georgiana was the great-great-great-grand-aunt of princess Diana.

<In one of her letters, the Duchess of Devonshire wrote to Lady Elizabeth, "My dear Bess, Do you hear the voice of my heart crying to you? Do you feel what it is for me to be separated from you?"

– https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgiana_Cavendish,_Duchess_of_Devonshire

Thanks for the heads up about Compulsion. I really should stick to the one with the most seeders. I wasted a lot of time waiting for the nearly 8GB version of Room in Rome. Should have it by tomorrow evening.

>>581

There is something really familiar about this… I think have seen it, but apparently it didn’t leave much of an impact.

>>584

>According to Wikipedia Georgiana was the great-great-great-grand-aunt of princess Diana.

Damn, the Spencers are cursed.

>I think have seen it, but apparently it didn’t leave much of an impact.

It's pretty bland. Kind of like a hallmark movie. Married Elena falls for out and proud Peyton and begins an affair with her. Her husband is, of course, a gay hating preacher so it's totally cool though. The script is pretty cringe like in the previous webm soft like velvet kek.

>>575

>For those who haven’t already heard it; Joss Whedon’s audio commentary on Hush

I've never heard Joss Whedon talk before. His voice is just awful. He sounds creepy as fuck.

>>587

lel

It does sound like he’s been raised exclusively on soy…

Good thing he isn’t the only one doing these audio commentaries though; other episodes have their director/writer doing them, and I think Joss only does the episodes he wrote/directed.

I would not be surprised if it turns out he is a major perv tbh.

>>585

IKR? Winston Churchill has got to be related to Diana/Georgiana too, right? His actual surname is Spencer-Churchill.

>It's pretty bland. Kind of like a hallmark movie. Married Elena falls for out and proud Peyton and begins an affair with her. Her husband is, of course, a gay hating preacher so it's totally cool though.

Sounds a lot like Disobedience then, cause isn’t the husband in that film a gay-hating Rabbi?

Two of the characters in Evil Remains from 2003 are gay. Pretty bland horror film, but not terrible either.

I remember the army chick in George A. Romero’s (really terrible) Survival of the Dead being gay too, but I think it was just brought up right out the blue and never lead anywhere. I loathed Diary of the Dead, but Surivial of the Dead was both sleep-inducing and laughably bad at times.

Just finished DL’ing Compulsion! That took a lot longer than expected though, so Saturday evening/night is when I’ll finally get around to see it. You’ve been teasing with these clips now, and the trailed looked really interesting, so I’ve got a good feeling about this one.

Also, if you are still looking for Hitman's Run, this one has really nice DL speeds: Hitman's Run (1999) WEB-DLRip.mkv – 1,21GB / btdb.to

>>592

>Sounds a lot like Disobedience then, cause isn’t the husband in that film a gay-hating Rabbi?

That actually ran through my mind when writing too. Hopefully Disobedience will be more engaging.

>Two of the characters in Evil Remains from 2003 are gay. Pretty bland horror film, but not terrible either.

Added to the list. A few years ago I marathoned a bunch of …the dead movies as they were all on YT. Can't even really remember them they were so boring. Even Dennis Hopper couldn't save the one he was in. The first three (Night, Dawn, and Day) are all memorable and rewatchable. Didn't mind the Dawn remake either. Absolutely hated the Night remake though.

>>593

>Also, if you are still looking for Hitman's Run, this one has really nice DL speeds:

:( No sources for me. I'll try again in a few hours. Yay you have Compulsion! I will watch it again tonight then.

>I’ve got a good feeling about this one.

It looks like it has a low rating but that hardly means anything anymore. I'm going to try and have low expectations.

>>594

>Hopefully Disobedience will be more engaging.

Fingers and toes crossed.

>Even Dennis Hopper couldn't save the one he was in.

And he was pretty much the only good thing in that film, especially his improvised Get down! line, that one was actually funny. Asia Argento (daughter of Dario A.) was stunning in it though.

I think my main problem with the …of the Dead films is that Romero has to inject his agenda into it, and he is far from subtle about it – he did virtue signaling before it was cool.

>It looks like it has a low rating but that hardly means anything anymore.

Hear, hear! I have pretty muched stopped paying attention to ratings on IMDb, Rotten Tomatoes, or reviews in the newspaper – too many politically correct, virtue signaling reviewers and shills around these days.

Not sure if I should trust Jess Francos camera work again, but Eugenie… The Story of her Journey into Perversion from (1969) looks interesting to say the least.

https://lydiarghgrace.wordpress.com/2012/01/11/love-my-way-jess-francos-eugenie-the-story-of-her-journey-into-perversion-1969/

I stumbled across a thread dedicated to The Neon Demon over at /film/ quite by accident yesterday, and I saw that someone had posted this draft of the script. I was surprised to see that they didn’t seem to analyse the film in any great depth like we have.

>>>/film/8294

Haven’t yet had the chance to read through the script, but I think it could shed some light on the film we ended up with, and the characters and their motivations.

𝔄𝔠𝔥 𝔡𝔲 𝔖𝔠𝔥𝔢𝔦𝔰𝔰𝔢

Here I was getting ready to watch Compulsion and then it turns out the audio is lagging so badly it is borderline unwatchable. Looks like I will have to settle for Wir Sind Die Nacht instead tonight…

I just noticed that Max Riemelt is in it, he was very good in the equally good Napola – Elite für den Führer from 2004.

I found another copy of Compulsion though, so maybe tomorrow?

So… just finished Wir sind die Nacth/We Are the Night.

Nora is almost too cute, and she has a bubbly, fun-loving personality to match. All scenes involving her were the highlights of the film.

As in almost all the vampire films I have seen the bloodsuckers make very little effort to cover up their existence – killing all the passengers on a large plane and crashing it near Berlin? Breaking into places and killing the night-watchmen? You have got to be fucking kidding me. No sense of self-preservation at all.

How did Louisa think turning a troubled youth like Lena would go? Did she really expect her to go along with all their nefarious doings just like that? I guess she might be somewhat out of touch with human feelings after being a bloodthirsty killer for so long…

Sending in the special forces to deal with them? Based on what? A surveillance tape that didn’t show any of the women the pimp witness mentioned? Is this how the German police react to all stolen cars? FFS.

There is a good film underneath it all, and we see glimpses of it throughout, but then we have this impossibly contrived and forced bullshit. They clearly had a decent budget for this fil,, the locales are beautiful, the music is good, but then are so many idiotic scenes and characters that behave so fucking stupid that it really boggles the mind.

>>604

>Here I was getting ready to watch Compulsion and then it turns out the audio is lagging so badly it is borderline unwatchable

There is a free media player called Media Player Classic Home Cinema that I've found great for this sort of thing. Also automatically looks for subs online if you don't have them. If you do end up getting the program:

>right click options

>Internal Filters

>Audio Switcher

>Check audio time shift

-1400 to -1500 was fine on my copy

>>605

A lot of supernatural films have this problem. Not much work seems to go into creating a universe and the logistics of what takes place within it. Consequently you get this veneer of a story and nonsensical scenes and loose ends.

>>559

No wonder this monologue was good. The credits thank Anais Nin. I swear I have a copy of her work floating around somewhere. She's going to the top of the list.

>>606

I actually use MPC-HC, and I did try the change the audio settings, but no luck then. -1450 worked wonders though, so cheers a bunch. You’re a lifesaver.

Compulsion

First off, these are all horrible people… I hate the phrase ‘style over substance’, but I think it is applies for this film. It upholds a very fancy façade throughout to distract from the shallowness of the story and the characters. Some scenes were masterfully done though – the music, the cinematography and the locales… superb!

There is a lot of religious (Christian) symbolism going on – the painting of the nude woman reminded me of a painting of Eve by the tree of the forbidden fruit, but the pose she is striking is very similar to the goddess Venus in Sandro Botticelli’s painting ‘The Birth of Venus’.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_Venus

The sacrificial girl gets her throat cut with the not-Spear of Destiny?

What is up with all that choking during sex?

>>611

> -1450 worked wonders though, so cheers a bunch. You’re a lifesaver.

No worries

>First off, these are all horrible people…

Lol I know right, except maybe Thierry(sp?) but we don't get to see much of his character.

>the pose she is striking is very similar to the goddess Venus in Sandro Botticelli’s painting ‘The Birth of Venus’.

My thoughts exactly when watching. I assumed the painting took it's cue from The Birth of Venus with that pose.

>The sacrificial girl gets her throat cut with the not-Spear of Destiny?

Unless we're missing some occult knowledge the blade choice was probs for style.

>What is up with all that choking during sex?

Sadie's (sadistic) fetish. Sadie/Sadistic/de Sade. I assume that's why her name is Sadie? As some kind of reference. Not that I've read any de Sade, but it's all about BDSM pleasure/pain stuff isn't it? Couple that with the repeated quote

>pain is something to master, not to wallow in

I found the first part engaging up until the first night at the mansion. Then it starts to fall apart and the final act I really didn't understand what was going on. Francesca was initiated on the first night, so why would she be in danger on the second one? Sadie's memory gets progressively worse as the time passes. Is Sadie a member of their group? Someone high up? This is suggested by needing her approval to bring Francesca to the mansion to be reborn and everything being in Sadie's honour. If she is a member, does she deliberately loose her memory as some sort of game? What the fuck Sadie. If she's not a member, why do they care so much to have her join? I get that Alex is still in love with her but is that all it is for the whole group to chase Sadie. Who was the blonde woman? Some kind of enforcer? Is this all just Sadie's fantasies that she comes up with for her books? If not, the group members are able to conquer death?

I'm glad I watched this because now I know about Marta Gastini (Francesca)

>wew lad

>>613

Thierry was indeed the only likeable character in the film. Sadie did show regret and tried to do the right thing though, but it felt like too little too late. Alex & Francesca and the other people at the villa are downright horrible people though – no redeeming qualities what so ever.

>I assumed the painting took it's cue from The Birth of Venus with that pose.

This variant in particular is very similar – don’t look too closely at the feet though…

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Botticelli_-_Venus_-_Gem%C3%A4ldegalerie,_Berlin.jpg

>Unless we're missing some occult knowledge the blade choice was probs for style.

If I’m not mistaken the Spear of Destiny is on display in Vienna, and is said to be the spearhead that poked Jesus when he was on the cross?

>Sadie's (sadistic) fetish. Sadie/Sadistic/de Sade. I assume that's why her name is Sadie? As some kind of reference. Not that I've read any de Sade, but it's all about BDSM pleasure/pain stuff isn't it? Couple that with the repeated quote

That could be it. She (Sadie) doesn’t appear to take much pleasure in hurting others though, just a little choking during sex. It can’t have been coincidence that her name gives allusions to sadism though.

The golden tickets Alex hands her depict a solar eclipse, which made me think of the title of the film Men Behind the Sun (1988) – I think it would have been interesting if there was something to this solar eclipse symbolism, that they hold this party during an eclipse, either because of some paranormal/occult reason, or because they can only carry it out when the sun is hidden.

The book she looks at is titled ‘Desiderium’, according to Wordnik it means ‘A longing or ardent desire as for something once possessed and now missed; pain or regret on amount of loss or absence.’

>Who was the blonde woman? Some kind of enforcer?

No idea – in the end credits she is given a name, though I don’t remember it being mentioned in the film. These names are listed in the end credits: Silvia, Thelma & Lily. I assume Minos is the footman we see cleaning the blood-stains and preparing their indoor croquet game.

Could it be that these toffs carry out these sacrifices to assure their continued success? It felt like it was an initiation ritual to welcome Sadie into their inner circle, and that it is very important she come there of her own free will and stay there voluntarily – at first. Once the ritual begin there is no going back and they can’t let her leave. Something that puzzled me was that the tunnels (‘a means of escape for the innocent’) would lead to the church – if they are innocent they probably wouldn’t be at the villa in the first place, or they could just leave though the main doors; if they stayed long enough to need another way out, shouldn’t they be too far gone to be innocents?

Appearance-wise Marta Gastini reminded me a little of Rachel Weisz.

>>614

At the end she read the ending to the crowd as well. With smut like ‘Fifty Shades of Grey’ being so immensely popular I can kinda see an author of erotic literature achieving that amount of celebrity status.

>>617

>don’t look too closely at the feet though

Kek

>If I’m not mistaken the Spear of Destiny is on display in Vienna, and is said to be the spearhead that poked Jesus when he was on the cross?

Yes but I don't think they are similar enough to consider the blade to represent that in the film. However, if that was the case, it wouldn't be out of place. Once could imagine they are mocking /reenacting Christ's death by killing an innocent and I guess she is hanging in a crucifixion pose.

>just a little choking during sex.

That's how she killed Alex in Paris, so I guess she can get out of hand.

>he book she looks at is titled ‘Desiderium’, according to Wordnik it means ‘A longing or ardent desire as for something once possessed and now missed; pain or regret on amount of loss or absence.’

Interesting that she seems to have a pretty good grasp of the mansion isn't it. She knows to get info straight from that book. I wonder if previous gatherings had been held there. She mentions being part of them at least once or twice.

>These names are listed in the end credits: Silvia, Thelma & Lily.

From google it looks like she was Silvia. Not sure about the other two names.

>Could it be that these toffs carry out these sacrifices to assure their continued success?

Fair guess. They also have the power to bring people back from the dead potentially. It's implied Alex died of asphyxiation in Paris, and Sadie cuts him pretty good at the mansion, yet there he is all fine and alive in the car at the end.

>if they stayed long enough to need another way out, shouldn’t they be too far gone to be innocents?

I really didn't understand the tunnels for the innocent and the young priest stuff. I guess the director was going for a dream like quality throughout much of the film and with that would come some questions of logic. I feel like it's all a bit of a game. It's mentioned a few times to see what's occurring as a game, as theatre etc. And the audience is also being told to see it that way?

>Appearance-wise Marta Gastini reminded me a little of Rachel Weisz.

I can see that a little.

>With smut like ‘Fifty Shades of Grey’ being so immensely popular I can kinda see an author of erotic literature achieving that amount of celebrity status.

Can you really imagine that illiterate author dressed to the nines at some hoighty toighty soiree in Turin giving a reading? Actually thinking on it, I can imagine that happening now.

>>618

>I don't think they are similar enough to consider the blade to represent that in the film

Aw, geez. I was way off.

>That's how she killed Alex in Paris, so I guess she can get out of hand.

Wait, what? Did I fall asleep during a portion of the film or something? If she already killed Alex in Paris before the film started, then that ruins the impact of seeing him in the car with Fransesca at the end.

Also, now I can’t get this skit with Bob Odenkirk and David Cross out of my mind: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=RBOvYwLkYpk

As you mentioned earlier, I was interested in the film till they got settled in at the villa - then it fell into the same trap as Room in Rome – sex scenes and talking and then sex scenes. And once again these are strangers hooking up because… the script says so. There isn’t really significant bonding between Sadie and Fransesca before they shack up; it could be argued that Sadie was intrigued with her at the club and by Fransesca’s monologue at the villa though.

When Sadie has that vision of Fransesca in white, the blood on her hands and the ceremonial dagger and the victims of the ritual, all the victims are female – what’s your take on that?

>Can you really imagine that illiterate author dressed to the nines at some hoighty toighty soiree in Turin giving a reading? Actually thinking on it, I can imagine that happening now.

IKR? It does sound a bit weird though,

>>622

>Did I fall asleep during a portion of the film or something?

I think it only really becomes clear when she's doing the final reading right before the car scene. She's saying about not letting go and not realising his heart had stopped and images flash of her being pulled away from his lifeless body. Then she follows Francesca to the car.

>Also, now I can’t get this skit with Bob Odenkirk and David Cross out of my mind:

kek

>There isn’t really significant bonding between Sadie and Fransesca before they shack up; it could be argued that Sadie was intrigued with her at the club and by Fransesca’s monologue at the villa though

Agreed.

I really liked the monologue and fell in love with Marta because of it but as it turns out that's because it's Nin's work and seems to stand alone from the rest of the movie.

>When Sadie has that vision of Fransesca in white, the blood on her hands and the ceremonial dagger and the victims of the ritual, all the victims are female – what’s your take on that?

The two figures front left are dudes no? I read Francesca in white as representing either her to be sacrificed or that she is, as yet, uninitiated. Sadie has blood on her hands in that vision, and again when the girl is killed. So is this Sadie acknowledging her active participation or at the very least, complicity in the nefarious activities of this group?

>>627

>images flash of her being pulled away from his lifeless body.

Look at this. Sadie's hand seems to bear a horned mark on the back? And her finger is bandaged. Can't help but think of Abramovic.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=3EsJLNGVJ7E

>>629

The CGI at the end of the teaser/trailer really stands out in a bad way. I cannot understand why they would use CGI when you could use practical effects; it is a pastiche of Hammer horror, done on a budget, so a flapping bat like the Universal Dracula, and a miniature castle, or a matte painting would have looked so much better. I adore the matte paintings and miniatures of the Hammer and AIP films so much, it gives them a certain feeling you can’t replicate with CGI.

>>628

Now that you mention it there does seem to be obvious allusions to Abramovic and her spiritcooking; we have a shadowy elite holding satanic(?) rituals/Black Mass and human sacrifices to achieve their goals.

Nice catch btw. I hadn’t noticed the mark or the bandage. When does it first appear in the film? Maybe something got cut from the final film?

>>627

The religious imagery of the paintings and the near omnipresent white colour is in stark contrast to the evils being committed there. The guests are all clad in black – with the exception of Fransesca in the dream/vision who is in all white.

>I really liked the monologue and fell in love with Marta because of it but as it turns out that's because it's Nin's work and seems to stand alone from the rest of the movie.

That monologue did feel separate from the rest of the film – it was better written, and the performance she gives stood out, like the rest of the film couldn’t live up to that level of quality. Can’t believe you recognized the quote/monologue – why do you think that author/quote was chosen by Fransesca (in the film) and by the writer/director (IRL)?

Now that you mention it does seem like the two bodies on the front left are male, there could be another guy in the back as well. The rest appear to be women.

The name of the Desiderium book and the not-‘Birth of Venus’ painting could be taken as Sadie’s longing to re-capture her innocence and the relationship she had with Alex. The painting is featured both in the book and as a full-scale painting on the wall hiding the entry to the tunnels. I take the nude figure to represent innocence – the woman on the painting doesn’t have anything to hide (except her privates, but that probably doesn’t count), no sin or guilt, so she symbolises the pure, innocence of someone who can use the tunnels as a way to escape. It could be that through regret and remorse – the longing to put things right (desiderium) one might also be redeemed and become innocent again.

The quote about the tunnels either being a way of escape for the innocent or leading to hell could mean that only the innocent would find their way to the church, and that someone who hadn’t gone through the ‘cleansing’ or repentance would end up somewhere else (‘Hell’? In that case the villa could be taken as a physical gateway between redemption and damnation – a sort of purgatory or test).

Have you seen As Above, So Below from 2014? It is a found footage horror film, but it feels like a really dark Indiana Jones or Tomb Raider/Lara Croft story with horror elements. It shares a lot of similar story elements with Compulsion; Paris, the neon-lit night club, the tunnels leading to ‘Hell’, the Occult symbolism, the cult rituals, the redemption from past sins and guilt (real or imagined)… I thought it was very interesting, despite its obvious flaws – a lot better than the mostly negative reviews would have you think, and a lot ‘deeper’ than what one might expect from a found footage horror film. I think it is also the first film to shoot scenes in the Paris catacombs.

>>630

>I cannot understand why they would use CGI when you could use practical effects

Me either. I have a feeling we might be approaching the get off my lawn stage in life. I wonder what kids think of CGI and practical effects today.

>>631

>Now that you mention it there does seem to be obvious allusions to Abramovic and her spiritcooking;

And this film was made before the email dump that got Abramovic a whole new audience.

>Nice catch btw. I hadn’t noticed the mark or the bandage. When does it first appear in the film? Maybe something got cut from the final film?

Thanks, I only noticed it when making the webm of Alex's first death. I didn't even see the bandaid until after I took the screenshot to enhance the mark on her hand. Good point about something being cut. Seems quite the effort to put into costuming for a fleeting second that can hardly be seen.

>Can’t believe you recognized the quote/monologue – why do you think that author/quote was chosen by Fransesca (in the film) and by the writer/director (IRL)?

I happened upon the connection by chance in reading the credits. I have a copy of Nin somewhere (still haven't found it) but haven't actually read any of her work yet (like so many books I have lying around waiting). I guess it was chosen by the director to emphasis the pain quote at the end. Perhaps he is a fan of her work. And Francesca chose the piece in order to speak directly to Sadie under the guise of drama?

>The name of the Desiderium book and the not-‘Birth of Venus’ painting could be taken as Sadie’s longing to re-capture her innocence and the relationship she had with Alex.

I hadn't thought of it that way. What you've written makes a lot of sense;

>the longing to put things right (desiderium) one might also be redeemed and become innocent again.

especially when you consider Sadie's apparent memory loss after each gathering. My surface reading of the painting was merely that it was Venus and stood for eroticism etc.

>The quote about the tunnels either being a way of escape for the innocent or leading to hell could mean that only the innocent would find their way to the church, and that someone who hadn’t gone through the ‘cleansing’ or repentance would end up somewhere else (‘Hell’? In that case the villa could be taken as a physical gateway between redemption and damnation – a sort of purgatory or test).

Why does the servant help her? I can't help but see it all as some kind of dangerous game but a game nonetheless. Like everything is set up for her, including the priest with the cloak etc.

>Have you seen As Above, So Below from 2014?

Yes! I remember being pleasantly surprised by this one, especially for a found footage movie. I was thinking of it the other day would you believe it? When you asked me what the upside down cityscape in Darling could be about my mind wandered back to As Above So Below. It also flashed through my mind when I initially watched Darling and thought they were in some kind of purgatory.

>crushing hard

kek, that lip bite.

>>631

Just noticed that the wide shot as the guests are entering has the windows looking like moons.

And thinking about what you wrote earlier re the club invite cards, the mark on Sadie's hand is probably a crescent moon.

>>632

>>633

>I have a feeling we might be approaching the get off my lawn stage in life.

Aw, geez. Are you telling me watching old and obscure (European) films isn’t hip? Is there another step as well, or are we at the end now? I think most kids these days are so used to CGI and the mayhem/spectacle of blockbusters they have become incapable of enjoying anything else.

>this film was made before the email dump that got Abramovic a whole new audience.

Weird. It fits so eerily – the posh elites gathering to do human/blood sacrifices and the connection to the artsy scene.

>My surface reading of the painting was merely that it was Venus and stood for eroticism etc.

Maybe the title of the painting is a clue? It could be seen as a chance to be ‘reborn’ after emerging from the purgatory-like test, free from the past – maybe this is the reason she forgot about what happened? The goddess Venus was supposedly born from seafoam, and In couldn’t find any connection between her and the moon, or worship of her connected to any special lunar phase.

There is a connection between the painting and eroticism as well, as you pointed out – between Sadie & Fransesca.

Did you take it that the party guests are all connected to the posh night club as well? On the (golden) ticket there is a flaming(?) triangle. This corresponds with the symbol of fire of the classical elements in alchemy. Gold is symbolised by the sun while silver is symbolised by the moon.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Alchemical_symbols

The general design of the ticket also appears similar to this depiction of the macrocosm with the four elemental spheres: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fotothek_df_tg_0006472_Theosophie_%5E_Philosophie_%5E_Sonifikation_%5E_Musik.jpg

If there is something to this alchemical symbols, that would be yet another thing the film has in common with As Above, So Below – where the philosopher's stone is used to resurrect someone/bring them back from the brink of death – could this be how they brought back Alex?

If Sadie is indeed a high ranking member of this cult(?), or perhaps even the leader, it would make sense for the servant, Minos, to aid her. Do you think Sadie is using some vague recollection of these parties/gatherings as her inspirations for her erotic novels?

>Francesca chose the piece in order to speak directly to Sadie under the guise of drama?

They keep bringing up this idea of it being a show or a play written by Sadie – Alex’ comment that she loves the theatre, Fransesca’s dream after she arrives at the villa. She tells Sadie that she wants to be a star in America – maybe she sees this ‘party’ as a way to achieve her goal? She appears to be willing to do whatever it takes to reach that goal.

What is the Nin quote from? Perhaps the context of the excerpt can shed some more light on why they chose that particular quote for the film.

>Yes! I remember being pleasantly surprised by this one, especially for a found footage movie. I was thinking of it the other day would you believe it?

Whoa… Maybe this is something like that Maisie hivemind Ser Gifmaker (Maisiefag) is talking about. You are dead on about the similarity to Darling too – the title of that chapter was ‘Hell’, which fits perfectly with the purgatory the characters in As Above, So Below went through.