70af65 No.27151 [Last50 Posts]
If fags haven't seen already it's a thread where a season of TNG is rewatched where a brief review is given of each episode and a small dump of reaction tier images and webms are made. Feel free to join in and shitpost. Also if you have any requests for scenes you want webm'd make them here.
Rating Scale
Since fags asked for me to give a rating on an episode when giving an overview here's my rating scale before there is autistic screeching, well more so than usual.
Ratings Explained:
>0-1
Truly awful and do yourself a favor and avoid watching an episode with this rating.
>2-3
Bad episodes that while you could suffer through there is no real need for you to put yourself through such torture.
>4-5
The pass mark. Decent episodes that are okay but you really won't be upset if you miss them.
>6-7
Good episodes that are worth a watch. There is not really any reason to avoid them.
>8+
Truly great episodes that you must watch.
Previous Threads:
Season 1 Thread: >>25320
Season 2 Thread: >>26012
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70af65 No.27152
Episode 1 - Evolution
>3/10
Starting off I think I am being quite harsh here with the score. It's a good all round story and episode in it's own right apart from one glaring shit smear that stains it; Wesley. For whatever reason Wesley was not really that annoying in Season 2 but now it seems he's a bit of an obnoxious Wunderkinder who manages to release a nanite plague that threatens to destroy the ship and not even get a slap on the wrist for it. As I've said think I am being harsh but I was restraining myself hard to not punch the screen whenever I saw Wesley.
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70af65 No.27153
>>27152
Anger at Wesley aside should point out this is perhaps the start of the truly decent filler episodes that plague TNG; i.e. the episodes that are neither here nor there but if it's on you don't mind watching it. Also the music used is surprisingly top notch and well done, perhaps highly underappreciated.
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70af65 No.27154
>>27153
Forgot to add it seems a lot less campy and plays shit a lot more straight than it did in previous seasons.
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70af65 No.27155
Episode 2 - The Ensigns of Command
>4/10
I'm was flip flopping between a 5 and a 4 for this. The episode annoys me as it feels that it could have been pulled off better than it was. The autistic girl falling for Data didn't come off very natural. The acting from the locals was kind of hilarious since everyone sounded like "I'm Julius Caeser Salad and so is my wife!" and the Sheliak were drawn out without fleshing out who they were exactly. Despite all this some strong scenes but not quite as good deliveries all round as there could have been.
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70af65 No.27156
>>27155
I am not sure what these robots are meant to be but I feel like they are "fully functional" considering who built them.
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70af65 No.27157
>>27156
They sure seem to be a fan of 90's bland fashion that tries to be dull yet colourful at same time. What is even this style called?
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70af65 No.27158
>>27157
I think it would have been better to edit this so that when they started playing Picard immediately walks out.
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70af65 No.27159
>>27158
Some good reaction webms from this in case fags are interested.
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70af65 No.27160
>>27159
Who knew Sheliak were great at burns?
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70af65 No.27161
Episode 3 - The Survivors
>5/10
I think I am being harsh with this one especially with the relatively good ending to the mystery that only serves to raise more questions when you think about it. It's may be yet another god being trope but it kind of feels like there could have been a lot more to this story than meets the eye. Back of my mind during this episode made me think it was another "Q" that the crew had encountered. I think overall when I give it some thought this episode being treated as a filler episode is what brings it down, it could easily have been stretched to a few other episodes later down the line and uncovering more of a mystery.
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70af65 No.27162
>>27161
Didn't get much in way of screencaps this episode but a fair few webms
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70af65 No.27163
Episode 4 - Who Watches the Watchers
>5/10
Probably going to get yelled at for this one but I don't think it was great. Good certainly, but not great. Even though I struggle to find any true fault with it I feel it doesn't wow in any particular way. Maybe cause Season 3 has been relatively decent so far it's hard to find anything that is overly special. Will say though it seems that whenever the Federation tries to do anything sneaky it literally blows up in their face.
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70af65 No.27164
>>27163
Just noticed I didn't even find anything webm worthy about this episode. It's a good logic and reason episode but nothing great. Also seems that they are lacking waifus compared to the waifu watch that was Season 2.
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70af65 No.27165
Episode 5 - The Bonding
>5/10
Another rather good episode that was harmed more so that the delivery wasn't quite up to scratch. It's almost annoying that they have good ideas yet don't exactly execute them as well as they hoped. Wesley is a prime example in this episode where he had a good scene but you are left with the impression it could have been better. Quite a morally grey episode which is good and I feel so far Season 3 has had several of already. There's no real right or wrong here but what is considered the best option.
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70af65 No.27166
>>27165
I will say some props and line deliveries in this are unintentionally sexual
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70af65 No.27167
>>27166
In hindsight think the cat was the best actor in this episode.
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70af65 No.27168
Episode 6 - Booby Trap
>5/10
Yet another episode I feel like I am rating okayish cause I don't believe the delivery was as good as it could have been. In this particular case I felt there needed to be more interaction between Picard reviewing the recordings of the Ayy Captain than Geordi pulling up an /r9k/ simulation. Maybe even the Ayy Captain being the one to provide the solution but unable to implement it. I also feel that destroying the ship at the end was unncessary all things considered. That ship belonged in a museum.
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70af65 No.27169
>>27168
Picard almost feels portrayed like a fool in this episode as well despite piloting the ship out at the end. Still at least a few webm moments.
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0d8a6d No.27174
>>27158
I wish the Sheliak had gotten fleshed out a bit more. They're a little too one-note to become a major race, even by Trek standards, but having them in a couple more episodes here and there would have been nice.
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70af65 No.27190
>>27174
I would say that Star Trek had a massive issue with establishing a universe as it were until the films starting coming out and about 4th Season TNG. It had very much an alien of the week thing going for it and whole Western Frontier atmosphere which to be fair is what it was sold as but at the cost you didn't really know what minor powers or even the major powers were and what were their motives. Kind of hard to add complexity and depth to the show if nobody is fleshed out at all.
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9dc894 No.27228
>>27152
>Episode 1 - Evolution
>3/10
4/10
I think Wesley didn't get in trouble because it's the Enterprise's mission to seek out new life.
>>27155
>Episode 2 - The Ensigns of Command
>4/10
3/10
>>27161
>Episode 3 - The Survivors
>5/10
5/10
@7:30 Data mentions an aquatic city in the Atlantic ocean - It would have been nice to have seen that at some point.
>>27163
>Episode 4 - Who Watches the Watchers
>5/10
8/10
This episode demonstrates the prime directive well and is good commentary on religion. It makes us think about how advanced technology would seem like magic to those with relatively primitive technology, Picard explains this to the Mintakan he beams aboard. This episode sets some groundwork for Insurrection.
>>27165
>Episode 5 - The Bonding
>5/10
5/10
@37:35 Troi implies the kid will want a wife in the future which would be politically incorrect in modern Trek. I think the kid was in Robocop 2. This episode made me think Star Trek uses energy beings a lot.
>>27168
>Episode 6 - Booby Trap
>5/10
3/10
Leah was hot. I think Barclay should have made the hologram of Leah, seems more his style.
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4a06ef No.27235
>>27190
Much like the Tzenkethi coming out of nowhere. As did the Cardassians I suppose, but they went on to be fleshed out at least. And even leaving aside people the Feds had unseen wars with, some namedrops of the First Federation or the Tholians or the Gorn in the TNG era would have helped fill out the sense of shared universe.
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70af65 No.27277
>>27228
>Who Watches the Watchers
I agree about the Prime Directive message being good.
>Energy beings trope
I feel like I could start making a Bingo card for filler episodes.
>>27235
To their credit did namedrop Tholians and Gorn in DS9 and later TNG but never revealed them. Funny enough they did mention Breen a lot towards the end of TNG and again never showed them, hyped them up through DS9, rarely showed them till literally last minute and were "Oops out of time!"
There has officially never been anything set in stone what the Trek universe looks like from a galaxy map and from what has been estalbished there is a lot of contradictions.
Anyway time for next batch of episodes.
Episode 7 - The Enemy
>6/10
It's a typical two soldiers from opposing sides having to work together to survive story. Overall not a bad episode, I don't have much to say for it really, it was clearly setting up things to come. Wesley was annoying, Geordi and Romulan section weren't as strong as they could be I felt. There was an interesting bit with Worf and Romulan have compatible blood or some other bullshit that felt a little forced, with a point I don't think was addressed as well as it was. Worf letting him die felt like they were trying to point out it was out of spite but it was Worf respecting the wishes of the Romulan who wished to die with dignity which says a lot about Worf's character. He may hate an enemy with all his heart but he will still respect their wishes.
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70af65 No.27278
>>27277
I may go through this episode again as I thought I had webm'd the /pol/mulan speech about Klingon filth and blood purity but I didn't.
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8a1a4b No.27280
>>27278
#1
He can also disapprove in Narn, if you prefer.
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70af65 No.27281
>>27280
I wish he appeared more often.
Episode 8 - The Price
>3/10
This episode has a lot of good stuff in it and I see where they were trying to go with it but it did not come off well, a lot of it felt really forced. The Ferengi being ruthless businessmen rather than manlet space pirates was a better rendition of them. Some good bits pointing out that Federation isn't exactly the most ideal club to do business with. The Troi love story though feels a bit cringe with the guy being a complete Jerkoff where you wish Jellico was around to punch him in the face. Probably been harsh with rating overall but I felt annoyed by this episode.
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70af65 No.27282
>>27281
They are going hard at it with foot fetish in this episode again.
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70af65 No.27283
>>27282
There was a good scene of Riker getting burned that I feel I should have webm'd. Then again it wasn't followed by Riker punching him in the face which would have been justified.
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70af65 No.27285
Episode 9 - The Vengeance Factor
>3/10
Another episode I feel that wasn't quite as good as it could have been but had some good ideas. Plot could be summed up as Space Bikers wanting to appear like Big Guys but really want to have some clay. Characters were overall a bit annoying and I felt like the Space Bikers were wannabee Klingons but pussy versions of them.
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70af65 No.27286
>>27285
Should add the idea of outcasts especially with the Federation should have came sooner. I know episode was about "cultural healing" but really would you not be sick of a society that tries to be in your face about how proper they are?
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70af65 No.27287
>>27286
Actually sum this up; smug shit eating liberals tyring to get along with edgelords, the episode.
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70af65 No.27289
Episode 10 - The Defector
>5/10
I felt this episode needed to be a bit longer just to flesh it out a bit more. While somewhat of a decent episode on it's own right with some insight into Romulans and how they thought. I think that I may be harsh cause I've watched the show before and knew it was clearly going to be a Romulan Trap and not the good maid kind but even then I still felt what brings this down is some glaring plot holes. That they weren't able to immediately identify that it was a high ranking Romulan Admiral. Like how Federation ships don't patrol the equvialent of the Berlin Wall in Space yet Klingons can get there in a jiffy. Speaking of the Klingons there's a scene at the end of this episode where everyone is "Oh yeah shit, the Klingons exist" as if they had all forgotten. Were Romulans dumb enough to think if they went to war with the Federation that the Klingon Empire would sit idle? Later episodes do later stress that the only thing holding the peace and keeping the Alpha Quadrant from tearing itself apart is the Klingons and Federation but it's a bit strange they did not stress it hard here.
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70af65 No.27291
Episode 11 - The Hunted
>6/10
I think rating of this episode is going to vary heavily based on who is watching. It's clearly about Vietnam Vets and how they were mistreated and trying to be free while coping with their PTSD. The idea of augmented super soldiers is something actually feel like has not been done enough in Trek despite there being Khan and Jem'Hadar. Think someone would have called these guys come Dominion War or something? Should point out that O'Brien of all people is the only person who seems to manage to get a successful pin on the guy without help, while Worf seems to have a somewhat even fight with him before losing to some boxes. I am though wondering why the prime directive was thrown out the window in this episode for a bit because the goberment they were talking to said someone was a naughty goy?
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70af65 No.27292
>>27291
Some great priceless reaction pics and webm of Worf
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70af65 No.27293
Episode 12 - The High Ground
>3/10
An episode that annoys me that while having some good portions and pointing out the hypocrisy of the Federation doesn't deliver as well as it should. For starters everyone comes across as a bit retarded. Second Wesley Boy Genius is getting annoying here. Third, are those the STD uniforms they are wearing?
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70af65 No.27294
>>27293
Seems interesting how the Federation continue to support a Government that actively acknowledges it's surpressing the independence of a segment of it's population and denying them their freedom? Then again they didn't nuke the planet from orbit so half and half.
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70af65 No.27295
>>27294
Picard punching a man before transporting off a ship was nice. The rebels all need purged despite raising good points. Should have used gas. Except for that booty.
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8a1a4b No.27296
>>27289
Are you fucking serious? The Defector is one of the masterpieces of TNG. It's a goddamn 10/10.
>That they weren't able to immediately identify that it was a high ranking Romulan Admiral.
What, do you think the Romulan military updates Starfleet with its personnel records on a regular basis? I have no problem with believing that Starfleet officers couldn't identify Jarok from appearance and voice alone. Hell, maybe they don't even have any communications recordings of Jarok due to his underlings handled direct communications during his military campaigns. Maybe Starfleet does have records, but they're from many decades earlier. Voices and appearances age, even for long-lived Romulans. Either way I find it quite believable that they couldn't positively identify him until the Romulans formally made a diplomatic protest identifying him by name.
>Like how Federation ships don't patrol the equvialent of the Berlin Wall in Space yet Klingons can get there in a jiffy. Speaking of the Klingons there's a scene at the end of this episode where everyone is "Oh yeah shit, the Klingons exist" as if they had all forgotten.
During the episode, there's several lines about messages to and from the Klingon government. This sort of thing is called "subtlety". It's meant to make the attentive viewer think throughout the episode "Why are they talking about Klingons?", followed by an "Oh!" during the reveal.
Also, why do you suggest Starfleet doesn't do patrols? Are you forgetting the fact that the Enterprise was within spitting distance of the neutral zone during the opening?
>Were Romulans dumb enough to think if they went to war with the Federation that the Klingon Empire would sit idle?
No, but I think they didn't factor in the depth of the alliance with regards to joint military activities during peacetime. You'll note that before the season one finale, the Romulans were rather isolationist, and soon after the events of this episode, the Romulans start all sorts of shady shit to try to break up the alliance.
This episode masterfully fleshes out details of the Federation-Klingon alliance and sets up motivations for the Romulans' later activities in the Klingon civil war, while at the same time being a classic Trek morality tale of a man trying to redeem himself and act in the best interests of his people despite the personal tragic consequences of those actions.
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9dc894 No.27299
>>27277
>Episode 7 - The Enemy
>6/10
5/10
The bit where the Romulan says Geordi would have been killed at birth in his society for being defective gave me a feel.
>>27281
>Episode 8 - The Price
>3/10
3/10
The Ferengi who buy the wormhole end up stuck in the Delta Quadrant in a Voyager episode called False Profits.
>>27285
>Episode 9 - The Vengeance Factor
>3/10
2/10
>>27289
>Episode 10 - The Defector
>5/10
4/10
>>27291
>Episode 11 - The Hunted
>6/10
5/10
>>27293
>Episode 12 - The High Ground
>3/10
7/10
@24:40 Data mentions the Irish unification of 2024 as an example of terrorism being successful, and because of that, the BBC refused to air the episode. It didn’t air on the U.K. government’s station until 2007, though it did air on satellite and cable (sometimes with that reference cut). Imagine if he said the same thing about Islamic terrorism. Finn scores points when he tells Dr. Crusher that by supplying the security forces with aid while ignoring the separatists, the Federation has chosen a side - it's refreshing to see the Federation painted as morally grey once in a while. 7/10 for philosophical value because it questions the definition of terrorists & freedom fighters.
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9dc894 No.27300
>>27295
That redshirt looks pink, what software do you use to encode your .webm files? Also what was the source?
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83738c No.27301
>>27299
>The bit where the Romulan says Geordi would have been killed at birth in his society for being defective gave me a feel.
I always thought it was interesting that the Federations technology is so advanced (impossible physics etc.) but their biotech didn't seem to keep pace. I guess the Eugenics Wars plays a large part of why that is. It's interesting to think that there's an alternate universe where Bashir is still retarded. I'd rather watch that version of DS9 because instead of using beta pick up lines on Jadzia he'd probably just run up grinning and grab her tits.
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70af65 No.27461
>>27296
>it's a masterpiece
It's good but not a masterpiece. When you scrutnize the episode it makes you headdesk.
>Maybe Starfleet does have records
Are you suggesting that Starfleet has no intelligence we all know the answer is no it doesn't and wouldn't have had done a full background check? Admirals are kind of hard to not notice and tend to be in a very public light.
>Also, why do you suggest Starfleet doesn't do patrols?
You don't do a patrol with a single ship. It would be like if US was defending the border with East Germany during the Cold War with a single Tank. You do it with a squadron and lot of forces otherwise you are basically inviting everyone in. What this episode ridiculously implies is that the Federation barely patrols the Romulan Neutral Zone leaving woefully undefended and I find that hard to swallow.
>Implying Romulans wouldn't be aware of the Federation-Klingon Alliance
They Romulans would then not have dared provoked a war without breaking up that Alliance first since they would know they wouldn't stand a chance especially with their history together. It was such a dumb move and poorly planned move on the Romulan part that they were risking open war against an Alliance they knew they could not win against.
>>27299
>The High Ground
Glad someone mentioned the Irish unification. Was going to talk about it but forgot. Yeah the US really did not understand what the IRA was about or what they were doing at the time. Then again they wrote this episode when Bin Laden was still a US ally.
As for the rest I do think that the message is good but I don't think it's well delivered. It was like they were trying to make a point but didn't know how to make said point.
>>27300
The redshirt looks pink because in TNG redshirts wore crimson not red. It was because at the time the lighting and filters they used meant that red didn't come out that well unless they used crimson. I use ffmpeg to encode and the source is the Bluray version of TNG.
>>27301
>Bashir grinning and grabbing Jadzia tits
She would let him as well.
Anyway back to episodes which I need to watch more of them more often.
Episode 13 - Déjà Q
>7/10
I might have rated this one a bit high but it was a good episode with Q getting a lot of character growth. I suspect there will be fags out there who will hate this episode for making Q have too many human qualities. Adds a lot of mystery to Q's past as well though and why he has a strange fascination with humans which I felt this show planned to explore but never got it off the ground. Bit of a boy who cried wolf story but a fun one.
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70af65 No.27462
>>27461
Just noticed I posted a repeat image
Q and Data relationship was not that bad and it seemed Q was growing fond of him a little being literally the only being that had the intelligence to talk to him properly.
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70af65 No.27463
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70af65 No.27464
>>27463
Some decent reaction pics and webms from this episode as well.
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70af65 No.27465
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70af65 No.27466
Episode 14 - A Matter Of Perspective
>4/10
I like the premise of Riker's dick getting him into trouble. I just find it retarded when they figure out there's radiation tearing up the ship they don't seem more concerned about it. The way they end it does feel a bit abrupt and the fact that Riker is charged more over a murder rather than the destruction of a space station leaves me scratching my head.
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70af65 No.27467
>>27466
Plus side those paintings could make for some great edits.
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70af65 No.27468
>>27467
I do feel this species needs removed from the genetic pool though.
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70af65 No.27469
Episode 15 - Yesterday's Enterprise
>9/10
An overall solid episode for not only being entertaining to watch but also explaining great details what happened to the Enterprise-C, what Guinan use is, and also how fragile peace between the Federation and Klingons actually is.
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70af65 No.27470
>>27469
I could take or leave Yar being there overall but guess it makes sense she didn't get Tar'd.
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70af65 No.27471
>>27470
Fashion seems a bit more interesting in this timeline with everyone wearing neat belts.
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70af65 No.27472
>>27471
Not so many webms since nothing reaction worthy but a lot of stuff for autists to nitpick about this episode. This episode is probably where they realized they were getting angry fan mail for ship sizes and addressed that by calling the oversized Bird of Prey the K'vort.
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7c0424 No.27474
>>27469
>Yesterday's Enterprise
I wish the show was more like that episode. I liked the tone and the way they slightly changed the Enterprise set.
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8a1a4b No.27475
>>27174
I'm 95% sure that the guy who did the voice of the Sheliak captain/ambassador/ruler/whatever is the same guy who voiced the crazy time-altering judgement-making android in Red Dwarf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tGO79BtWUI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gXtMBK3UzM
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8a1a4b No.27476
>>27289
#2
"Jean-Luc, I'm game, but go trim your fingernails first."
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70af65 No.27492
>>27474
Season 3 overall has a far more grown up and serious tone compared to Season 1+2 I've noticed so far.
>>27475
I think at one point they wanted to do a Red Dwarf/Star Trek crossover. No idea how it would turn out if true.
Episode 16 - The Offspring
8/10
Probably going to get "wtf?" comments for this one but I think I might even be rating this one too low. This was a top tier episode with a good moral message and very thought provoking.Basically comes down to parent vs state, who should have more say on how to raise a child? I think the bit about assigning gender at start would likely cause a shitshow on tumblr if they watched it today but the rest of the episode is interesting to watch and it makes you think even about human development. Plus who wouldn't want to create their own daughterfu?
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70af65 No.27493
>>27492
I must say I actually liked Guinan this episode and her character was used well. Picard seemed a bit like a dick at first but at end looked like he was about to tell an Admiral to (politely) get the fuck off his ship.
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70af65 No.27494
>>27493
Lal evolving through the episode was quite a nice surprise and twist honestly. They could have easily played this episode safe but did not and as a result it paid off rather well.
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70af65 No.27495
>>27494
When I look back overall on this episode I think there is a lot of subtext as well. Lal was human towards the end but her body could not cope with being it. Hell she knew she was deliberately being bitchy towards the Admiral and knew he deservered it. The bit about Lal programing becoming one with Data explains why Data starts to show far more human characteristics later on.
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70af65 No.27496
>>27495
as for reaction images and webms there are plenty of scenes in this episode that could be taken hilariously out of context if you tried.
Probably one thing I will nit pic about this episode is how casual Troi seemed to be when Lal had developed emotions. Surely she should have asked Data to get his butt there asap?
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fabae5 No.27498
For the Lal episode, after I had kids I was surprised by how much the ending affected me.
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0d8a6d No.27499
>>27492
>Probably going to get "wtf?" comments for this one
Why? It's a great episode and one of my favorites. Also, did you leave this one out intentionally?
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a503ee No.27503
Do you think Lal wore diapers?
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1da774 No.27506
>>27503
She can't urinate or defecate.
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9dc894 No.27509
>>27301
>I'd rather watch that version of DS9 because instead of using beta pick up lines on Jadzia he'd probably just run up grinning and grab her tits.
Kek
>>27461
>Episode 13 - Déjà Q
>7/10
8/10
My notes show: @6:24 Picard's classic facepalm @7:00 Q to Worf, "Eat any good books lately?" @14:10 Data "It means that you have achieved in disgrace what I have always aspired to be."
I'm a big fan of the character Q. As with Voyager's episode Death wish, I wish Q remained on the show as a human & we got to see his character develop.
>>27465
>Episode 14 - A Matter Of Perspective
>4/10
4/10
>>27469
>Episode 15 - Yesterday's Enterprise
>9/10
8/10
I might change my mind & say 9. One nit-pick though, how come Tasha Yar didn't disappear once the time line was restored? It's alluded to in a later episode that she survived.
>>27492
>Episode 16 - The Offspring
>8/10
7/10
@5:30 Picard discourages calling it a child "It is an invention", later @37:20 he calls it a child to the admiral @26:40 Data asking Riker "What are your intentions toward my daughter" and Riker leaving ten-forward was excellent comic relief.
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8e6351 No.27510
>>27509
>I might change my mind & say 9. One nit-pick though, how come Tasha Yar didn't disappear once the time line was restored? It's alluded to in a later episode that she survived.
Time has acausal loops as a possibility, like Picard encountering a loop of himself escaping the enterprise and a disaster.
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70af65 No.27706
>>27499
I did as Data's monolog spoils it a bit. Although I could webm if you wish?
Anyway I have been away far too long. I got caught up with a few things and watching some Babylon 5
Episode 17 - Sins of the Father
>9/10
While I am not so sure about the first part of this episode Kurn is definitely great. Klingons to this point on TNG have always come up a bit flat and almost caricatures of themselves apart from that season 1 episode. Kurn comes across as the geniune article, i.e. he's not fucking about and means business. You get the impression that if you crossed him he would indeed throw you out of the airlock whether or not the door was actually open.
The next part is when they go to Qo'nos, it's basically our first look at the Kliingon Home World. I think the atmosphere is very interesting; it's an ancient and traditional society but not all is as it would appear, and it is a very dangerous place not so because of risk of fatal headbutting but of treachy afoot. While there has been glimpses to internal troubles within the Empire before this episode literaly spells it out. The Empire is constantly a stonethrow away from Civil War and has major internal issues that need resolved.
Above all though what this episode adds more than anything is depth to the Klingon race. Not all Klingons are two dimensional. Some would give a Romulan a run for their money. K'mpec sees the bigger picture and tries to stop this shitshow from unfolding. Overall adds a nice lair of complexity to the show and setups a good story arc to come.
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70af65 No.27707
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70af65 No.27708
>>27707
Quite interesting how much it's pointed out without saying that Worf is a complete Klingaboo compared to the reality of the modern Klingon.
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70af65 No.27709
>>27708
I think we should have got more K'mpec. Clearly keeping the Klingon Empire in good shape when he was running a complete showshow is no mean feat.
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70af65 No.27710
>>27709
I think I need to go back and redo some of these webms me thinks.
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70af65 No.27711
Episode 18 - Allegiance
>4/10
Not so sure and I think I might be rating this a bit highly since it did not do much for me although it was no means a bad episode. It was nice seeing some Bridge Buffonery but overall felt a bit dry. Message about keeping any creature in forced captivity was interesting and clearly made by some animal rights fag. Just felt more could have been done this episode.
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70af65 No.27712
>>27711
I feel you could make a spinoff sitcom with these two ayys and it would work.
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70af65 No.27713
>>27712
TNG needed more singing tbh.
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70af65 No.27714
Episode 19 - Captain's Holiday
>4/10
I think I am being extremely generous here, if only cause of Vash and Picard punching a Ferengi in the face. The episode was clearly a filler episode with a plot that was at best, a complete mess. Nothing was really explained and the time traveling ayys from the future felt lazy in an IP that overdoes the shit out of time travel if I am honest. I had no idea what they were searching for or why it was vaulable, except Picard needed to kill some time and they wanted an excuse to expose his chest hair on screen. Some fetish I am not seeing here anons?
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70af65 No.27715
>>27714
Think this episode would have been better with more Andorian waifus.
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70af65 No.27716
>>27715
Apparently Picard is Aniki in this scene. Meme it wisely.
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70af65 No.27717
>>27716
This Ferengi seems the worst of both worlds. Also Vash seems like she isn't being paid enough.
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70af65 No.27718
>>27717
Picard have should punched more Ferengi tbh
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70af65 No.27720
Episode 20 - Tin Man
>3/10
Not the most terrible of episodes but I do feel that not enough of it is explained. If I was honest I was kind of bored shitless during this episode which is impressive since it featured Romulans and a Space Turd Creature. I think I am coming to the conclusion that all episodes that focus on the issue of telepaths are kind of terrible.
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70af65 No.27721
>>27720
At least some decent material to shitpost about but barely. I could forget this episode really existed. Also, apparently a few shots from a Romulan Warbird is enough to cripple the Enterprise.
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0d8a6d No.27722
>>27721
>I could forget this episode really existed.
You could say that again, I actually had to look up the episode on Memory Alpha to remember what it was. Usually the title plus your pics are enough to jog my memory.
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70af65 No.27726
>>27722
The budget they wasted on it as well in hindsight must have been impressive since nobody remembers anything about it.
Episode 21 - Hollow Pursuits
>4/10
While the later part of this episode is relatively decent I feel the early portion drags a lot and brings it down. Barclay grows on you as the episode goes along as he is that awkard unsociable neet that everyone watching this show is, so he's someone to relate to. Plus he puts the holodeck to good use without it trying to kill everyone. Overall it slips and slides at the start before getting a grip towards the end. Not bad, but not great.
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70af65 No.27727
>>27726
Some of the expressions are great. Murdock really fits well in Trek. Surprised they didn't get him to fly the ship.
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70af65 No.27728
>>27727
It's interesting how they call out Wesley for being an obnxious shit but there is also a massive whiff of "Guest Star" Episode to this.
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70af65 No.27729
>>27728
Was interesting how repulsed Riker was by the holograms…
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70af65 No.27730
>>27729
Till he saw Troi and changed his tone to "I wonder if Broccoli will let me borrow this program later?"
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70af65 No.27731
>>27730
I feel overall Season 3 has been disappointing for reaction webms so if anyone has any scenes they want to see, speak up.
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70af65 No.27732
>>27731
Reminder that Riker disapproves of using fellow crewmembers image for comedy but if you use them for sexual purposes on the holodeck you have his blessing.
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23cbbb No.27733
>>27732
I think he found the highly sexuized portrayal of Deanna to be humorous but not his portrayal as a buffoon.
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70af65 No.27740
>>27733
It's more a running joke that Riker is a sex maniac.
Episode 22 - The Most Toys
>6/10
I am giving this a very generous score more so cause this episode is a huge leap forward for Data as a character and the performance of the space gypsy was somewhat decent. Everything else about this episode though felt a bit lacking. Turns out all it takes for Data to emote is to be introduced to a bunch of space faring gypsies who hail from the planet Zimbabwe and then he's instantly on a crusade to genocide them all.
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70af65 No.27741
>>27740
A lot of this episode was kind of campy and had an almost TOS vibe to it. I actually think this episode might have been better as a TOS show.
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70af65 No.27742
>>27741
TNG has an interesting message so far. All merchants are evil.
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70af65 No.27743
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70af65 No.27744
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70af65 No.27745
>>27744
Apparently there was a lot of development troubles with this episode, with the actor they hired commiting suicide and all. Still, it ends up with a lot of almost comical scenes.
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70af65 No.27746
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26e08b No.27747
>>27745
What actor committed suicide?
I actually saw this "gypsy" guy at a theatre some years older and fatter.
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bba34c No.27751
>>27740
>Turns out all it takes for Data to emote is to be introduced to a bunch of space faring gypsies who hail from the planet Zimbabwe and then he's instantly on a crusade to genocide them all.
I mean, the merchant is a huge fag, so I can buy it.
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f2fe38 No.27752
The guy who wound up playing Fajo, Saul Rubinek, was in the Unforgiven as the author and on Frasier as Daphne's fiance. Knowing both these things makes the episode interesting.
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4a06ef No.27757
>>27752
And he's the dealer in Rush Hour 2 who Chris Tucker's character accuses of dicriminating against him because he's a nigger.
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70af65 No.27784
>>27747
Should say original actor they got to play him committed sudoku.
>>27751
He played the huge fag rather well
Anyway I guess it's time for a fresh episode.
Epsidoe 23 - Sarek
>6/10
Not sure how to describe this episode. It's a blatant filler episode but one with some good performances. To describe it in a nutshell is that Spock's dad has space alzheimers and it's causing everyone ot go crazy. I'd normally say there's no point watching it but the actors showing a wider range of emotions than normally would be displayed is good to watch. Plus Wesley gets slapped in this episode. Also notice how whenever Crusher gets serious she is always drinking tea?
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70af65 No.27785
>>27784
It's clear that this episode would not have worked if it wasn't for Stewart.
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70af65 No.27786
>>27785
also gave some great reaction images.
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70af65 No.27787
>>27786
Some glorious scenes.
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70af65 No.27788
>>27787
I've found these seasons lacking in concerts.
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70af65 No.27789
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c0dcc4 No.27803
>>27706
My favourite scene in Sins of the Father was when Kurn and Duras had their conversation in the tunnels. Kurn demonstrated with his line of "He is my brother! I will not betray him!" that a) he believes in honour as much as Worf does, and b) he's got absolutely massive steel balls. He was alone and surrounded by Duras' goons and about to be killed and he knew it, and he STILL didn't hesitate to tell Duras to go fuck himself.
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23cbbb No.27805
>>27803
Klingons are not afraid of dying. In fact, their religion looks down on people who don't die in battle. Their Kobayashi Maru simulation isn't even about death, it's about having to choose between your duty and your honor.
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3c371f No.27807
>>27805
>Klingons are not afraid of dying.
You missed the entire point of that episode. It was about how the "honourable fearless Klingon warrior" reputation is largely bullshit, that Klingons are as wildly varied in terms of personality as humans are, and that the "noble warriors" running the Empire are happy to pull all sorts of cowardly dishonourable crap to advance their own power ambitions.
Having Kurn actually living up to the Klingon ideals in the midst of all this cowardly secret-assassination politicking just emphasizes his fundamental honour and courage.
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8398d4 No.27811
>>27807
>You missed the entire point of that episode. It was about how the "honourable fearless Klingon warrior" reputation is largely bullshit
No, it was about the Klingon war against the dishonorable. Klingons in TOS were portrayed as underhanded and untrustworthy in the extreme. Episodes like that one established the Klingon concepts of honor. DS9 went to a 'they're hypocrites' model which latecomers assume is gospel. The definitive Klingon portrayal is Klingon Academy.
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4cb0b7 No.27825
>>27811
>Klingons in TOS were portrayed as underhanded and untrustworthy in the extreme.
Actually, TOS Klingons were quite varied in personality. Kor in "Errand of Mercy" was quite respectful towards a Kirk, who he recognized as a fellow warrior, even though Kirk was a POW. Krell in "A Private Little War" was doing what any punchclock intelligence officer of a meddling superpower would do with a third-world nation in a strategic location. Kang in "Day of the Dove" was a straight-up counterpart of Kirk: intelligent, willing to fight when necessary, able to keep self-control when appropriate, and focused on saving the lives of his crew. Koloth in "Trouble With Tribbles" was a smug asshole all-around.
>The definitive Klingon portrayal is Klingon Academy.
What the everloving shit is this autistic faggotry? Trek books and games are merely fanfiction, ranging from "cancer tier" at worst, to "forgettable" at best. As far as I'm concerned, if it wasn't in a movie or TV episode, then it doesn't exist.
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aaf8c0 No.27827
>>27825
>What the everloving shit is this autistic faggotry
You should probably learn what you are talking about. It is a full movie with Christopher Plummer playing Chang and David Warner playing Gorkon. DC Fontana wrote the script.
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4cb0b7 No.27828
>>27827
Casting Christopher Plummer and David Warner does not automatically equal "quality story". They're good actors, but they're also willing and eager to cash paycheques. They'll act in anything if you've got the cash.
As for 2000-era DC Fontana, she wasn't exactly riding a wave of success at that point, writing one-off episodes for kid's cartoons. You know another 2000-era project that had DC Fontana as a writer and a famous and talented actor like Malcolm McDowell in a lead role? "Captain Simian and the Space Monkeys".
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fabae5 No.27829
>>27828
Just watch the fucking thing.
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9dc894 No.27830
>>27706
>Episode 17 - Sins of the Father
>9/10
7/10
Excellent world building for the Klingons & character development for Worf.
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4cb0b7 No.27845
>>27829
I don't watch fanfiction.
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70af65 No.27874
>>27828
>>27845
Anon, Klingon Academy is exceptionally well done and considered canon. It's uses scripts designed for a proposed Klingon series that if wasn't for budget reasons, would have made it to the screen. It's a great game as well. If you want to miss out on something glorious then that's sad on you.
Nevermind the fact it's considered one of the best SPACE games ever made.
Anyway next episode
Episode 24 - Ménage à Troi
>5/10
Say some scenes are definitely a 6 or even a 7/10 but overall it's 5. It's an enjoyable episode with some fun acting in it. Lwaxana is enjoyable to watch in this and here to call Troi out that she needs to get her life in order. I do love the implications here though that the Federation cannot patrol it's space and worse still, cannot defend what is later revealed to be a core world from someone kidnapping their citizens.
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70af65 No.27875
>>27874
Some of the reactions in this are priceless and some instances of the actors looking into the camera. Rikers smug face is great.
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70af65 No.27876
>>27875
What is it with the extras this season looking like they just banged Ezri Dax?
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70af65 No.27877
>>27876
Holme does that John Travolta thing that I probably should webm.
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70af65 No.27879
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70af65 No.27880
>>27879
Interesting after making a big deal about woman and clothing the Ferengi seem to wear the robes they were using to cover themselves up.
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70af65 No.27881
Picards Shakespeare was good. Although I wish they got rid of Wesley
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70af65 No.27882
>>27881
Troi autistically screeching to her mother was surprisingly decent.
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70af65 No.27897
Episode 25 - Transfigurations
>3/10
Might be rating it a bit highly if I am honest but it is an enjoyable watch. Despite being absolutely fucking retarded. Basically it's about Space Jesus ascending and Geordi getting laid. Two things that break this episode for me. One is the fact they wait till they are on a planet's surface without any protective gear on to determine if the environment is safe. Second is that random weapon that made the crew choke itself to death, it was so retarded and made no sense. Say nothing of the horrid effects at end.
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70af65 No.27898
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70af65 No.27899
>>27898
This episode has a stench of filler
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70af65 No.27900
>>27899
And plot convience.
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70af65 No.27901
>>27900
Probably could squeeze more Worf webms out this episode but I am glad it's over really.
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2aac63 No.27906
>>27900
I remember the glowing spandex. That was a petty shit effect.
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70af65 No.28131
Well suppose I best get this out of the way while insomnia keeps me awake
Episode 26 - The Best of Both Worlds Part 1
>6/10
I don't think this episode was that great if I am honest. The tone was certainly good and it was quite spooky and even scary as the crew looked in geniune peril. Furthermore the stakes felt real. What lets it down is that it sort of drags a little and some rather confusing scenes in hindsight. Stewart looks insanely bored in this episode for most scenes as if he is just waiting for his contract to be over which probably isn't far from the truth, so is performance isn't as strong as it usually is. It's the first of what becomes a Trek tradition for a while in that it's a two parter episode at the season finale that leads onto the next season. This particular one doesn't exactly work as they build up suspense at the end but you really know their weapon at end is going to fail, otherwise they would have a two parter with the second half with a lot of empty space.
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70af65 No.28132
>>28131
Shelby I am not sure how to take her. She certainly is a bitch who oversteps her bounds quite a few times. On the otherhand she successfully emasculates Will Riker which I found kind of amusing. She serves also to draw attention to what has been an elephant in the room, the eternal number 1 and why he hasn't got his own command yet?
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70af65 No.28133
>>28132
Stewart did feel like he was phoning it in a little in this episode. Also here is an example of a confusing scene; why is Shelby instructing Data instead of Worf at Tactical about adjusting phaser frequencies?
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70af65 No.28134
>>28133
Not much I felt that was webm worthy apart from Worf's failures. Then again this episode was pretty serious.
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175c62 No.28207
>>28131
>This particular one doesn't exactly work as they build up suspense at the end but you really know their weapon at end is going to fail
you didn't know that when it premiered in 1990 ;)
>>28132
>Shelb
it's a shame that Picards assimilation really didn't have any meaningful lasting consequence to his character. On the other hand, Wil Riker being established as a overweight, stalled-out has-been with depression and low-T is perfect because it's persistent and they don't really have to do anything later to remind us of it. It's self-evident. Unfortunately, they subvert it later on with frosted frakes flash-forward plots that show him as a captain and later admiral, which really was never going to happen. He might have achieved the rank of Captain, like Spock and Scotty did - but he'd never have his own command. He's a terminal first officer.
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a73dcb No.28208
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f72a1a No.28210
>>28207
>like Spock and Scotty did
I'd like to think they tried to give Scotty numerous commands over they years and he just kept telling them to shove it
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175c62 No.28211
>>28208
>TNG films are canon
welcome to /strek/ newfriend! those late-tng era ships are objectively terrible
>>28210
Scotty was command qualified since TOS. He was more likely to have his own ship over Dr. Crusher and so many others but he was retirement age by the end of Star Trek VI. I dont buy him getting his own command either.
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a73dcb No.28213
>>28211
>implying newfaggotry
I've probably been here longer than you, faget.
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e4cb21 No.28322
>>27151
Pretty consistently terrible ratings. The episode with data's "daughter" in particular, it was just boring and dull besides being seriously stupid, with her constantly "learning" things she should've already known as well as spontaneously generating opinions while feigning "neutrality" (though I guess this is just a general flaw in the concept of Data's character to begin with, to be fair).
Also it's moral is shit, in that it implies a complex machine spontaneously becomes a person (an idiotic and naive opinion), as well as having a big-league stupid and perverse ending. The only entertaining bit of the episode is when the admiral arrives and starts talking some damn sense. Of course Picard starts with some sense as well, but soon enough he's parroting the position of the slack-jawed fool mesmerized by the magical computer machine. And if we forgot for a moment that a computer being conscious because of it's great number of processors makes as much sense as a motor being conscious because of it's great number of gears, that just makes the ending worse; well my daughter died, but that's okay, because I absorbed her mind into my own! This is some really sick shit, who thought that that should be the parting moment of cold comfort?
But besides that, some of the most atrociously shit taste I've ever seen. Bad ratings across the board, great episodes rated low (the defector was brilliant), shit episodes rated high ("The Picard, the Picard wants me to do this arbitrary nonsense! This is an accurate depiction of how myths and religions developed, not just a gay fedora pop-psych meme!" episode was terrible; same story as lal: gay, boring, stupid, etc). Incredible that you could be so wrong so consistently, well done.
But overall unironically good thread, thanks for taking the time to put it together.
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a584f3 No.28336
>>28322
Nobody likes you, Searle. Go away.
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ef1ca0 No.28343
>>28322
>Doesn't like Data's Daughter
Wait till you have kids.
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70af65 No.28472
>>28322
I designed my rating scale just to trigger you anon.
>Data's Daughter is boring and dull
I think you missed the point of the episode incredibly. The ending I do agree was a bit dumb and I felt tacted on as it'd be too much a hit of the feels.
>Defector is good
It's good if you don't think about the episode at all but once you use a small modicum of brain power it completely unravels itself. There are far too many glaring plotholes that pop up that make absolutely zero sense unless the writers are blatantly admitting that Starfleet is a completely incompetent organization that would be unable to wipe it's own ass without assistance which might be true considering my feelings on Starfleet but it's a really tough pill to swallow
I am debating whether or not to continue onto Season 4 and do a writeup for Season 3 overall.
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