70af65 No.27151 [View All]
If fags haven't seen already it's a thread where a season of TNG is rewatched where a brief review is given of each episode and a small dump of reaction tier images and webms are made. Feel free to join in and shitpost. Also if you have any requests for scenes you want webm'd make them here.
Rating Scale
Since fags asked for me to give a rating on an episode when giving an overview here's my rating scale before there is autistic screeching, well more so than usual.
Ratings Explained:
>0-1
Truly awful and do yourself a favor and avoid watching an episode with this rating.
>2-3
Bad episodes that while you could suffer through there is no real need for you to put yourself through such torture.
>4-5
The pass mark. Decent episodes that are okay but you really won't be upset if you miss them.
>6-7
Good episodes that are worth a watch. There is not really any reason to avoid them.
>8+
Truly great episodes that you must watch.
Previous Threads:
Season 1 Thread: >>25320
Season 2 Thread: >>26012
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70af65 No.27744
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70af65 No.27745
>>27744
Apparently there was a lot of development troubles with this episode, with the actor they hired commiting suicide and all. Still, it ends up with a lot of almost comical scenes.
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70af65 No.27746
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26e08b No.27747
>>27745
What actor committed suicide?
I actually saw this "gypsy" guy at a theatre some years older and fatter.
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bba34c No.27751
>>27740
>Turns out all it takes for Data to emote is to be introduced to a bunch of space faring gypsies who hail from the planet Zimbabwe and then he's instantly on a crusade to genocide them all.
I mean, the merchant is a huge fag, so I can buy it.
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f2fe38 No.27752
The guy who wound up playing Fajo, Saul Rubinek, was in the Unforgiven as the author and on Frasier as Daphne's fiance. Knowing both these things makes the episode interesting.
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4a06ef No.27757
>>27752
And he's the dealer in Rush Hour 2 who Chris Tucker's character accuses of dicriminating against him because he's a nigger.
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70af65 No.27784
>>27747
Should say original actor they got to play him committed sudoku.
>>27751
He played the huge fag rather well
Anyway I guess it's time for a fresh episode.
Epsidoe 23 - Sarek
>6/10
Not sure how to describe this episode. It's a blatant filler episode but one with some good performances. To describe it in a nutshell is that Spock's dad has space alzheimers and it's causing everyone ot go crazy. I'd normally say there's no point watching it but the actors showing a wider range of emotions than normally would be displayed is good to watch. Plus Wesley gets slapped in this episode. Also notice how whenever Crusher gets serious she is always drinking tea?
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70af65 No.27785
>>27784
It's clear that this episode would not have worked if it wasn't for Stewart.
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70af65 No.27786
>>27785
also gave some great reaction images.
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70af65 No.27787
>>27786
Some glorious scenes.
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70af65 No.27788
>>27787
I've found these seasons lacking in concerts.
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70af65 No.27789
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c0dcc4 No.27803
>>27706
My favourite scene in Sins of the Father was when Kurn and Duras had their conversation in the tunnels. Kurn demonstrated with his line of "He is my brother! I will not betray him!" that a) he believes in honour as much as Worf does, and b) he's got absolutely massive steel balls. He was alone and surrounded by Duras' goons and about to be killed and he knew it, and he STILL didn't hesitate to tell Duras to go fuck himself.
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23cbbb No.27805
>>27803
Klingons are not afraid of dying. In fact, their religion looks down on people who don't die in battle. Their Kobayashi Maru simulation isn't even about death, it's about having to choose between your duty and your honor.
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3c371f No.27807
>>27805
>Klingons are not afraid of dying.
You missed the entire point of that episode. It was about how the "honourable fearless Klingon warrior" reputation is largely bullshit, that Klingons are as wildly varied in terms of personality as humans are, and that the "noble warriors" running the Empire are happy to pull all sorts of cowardly dishonourable crap to advance their own power ambitions.
Having Kurn actually living up to the Klingon ideals in the midst of all this cowardly secret-assassination politicking just emphasizes his fundamental honour and courage.
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8398d4 No.27811
>>27807
>You missed the entire point of that episode. It was about how the "honourable fearless Klingon warrior" reputation is largely bullshit
No, it was about the Klingon war against the dishonorable. Klingons in TOS were portrayed as underhanded and untrustworthy in the extreme. Episodes like that one established the Klingon concepts of honor. DS9 went to a 'they're hypocrites' model which latecomers assume is gospel. The definitive Klingon portrayal is Klingon Academy.
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4cb0b7 No.27825
>>27811
>Klingons in TOS were portrayed as underhanded and untrustworthy in the extreme.
Actually, TOS Klingons were quite varied in personality. Kor in "Errand of Mercy" was quite respectful towards a Kirk, who he recognized as a fellow warrior, even though Kirk was a POW. Krell in "A Private Little War" was doing what any punchclock intelligence officer of a meddling superpower would do with a third-world nation in a strategic location. Kang in "Day of the Dove" was a straight-up counterpart of Kirk: intelligent, willing to fight when necessary, able to keep self-control when appropriate, and focused on saving the lives of his crew. Koloth in "Trouble With Tribbles" was a smug asshole all-around.
>The definitive Klingon portrayal is Klingon Academy.
What the everloving shit is this autistic faggotry? Trek books and games are merely fanfiction, ranging from "cancer tier" at worst, to "forgettable" at best. As far as I'm concerned, if it wasn't in a movie or TV episode, then it doesn't exist.
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aaf8c0 No.27827
>>27825
>What the everloving shit is this autistic faggotry
You should probably learn what you are talking about. It is a full movie with Christopher Plummer playing Chang and David Warner playing Gorkon. DC Fontana wrote the script.
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4cb0b7 No.27828
>>27827
Casting Christopher Plummer and David Warner does not automatically equal "quality story". They're good actors, but they're also willing and eager to cash paycheques. They'll act in anything if you've got the cash.
As for 2000-era DC Fontana, she wasn't exactly riding a wave of success at that point, writing one-off episodes for kid's cartoons. You know another 2000-era project that had DC Fontana as a writer and a famous and talented actor like Malcolm McDowell in a lead role? "Captain Simian and the Space Monkeys".
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fabae5 No.27829
>>27828
Just watch the fucking thing.
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9dc894 No.27830
>>27706
>Episode 17 - Sins of the Father
>9/10
7/10
Excellent world building for the Klingons & character development for Worf.
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4cb0b7 No.27845
>>27829
I don't watch fanfiction.
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70af65 No.27874
>>27828
>>27845
Anon, Klingon Academy is exceptionally well done and considered canon. It's uses scripts designed for a proposed Klingon series that if wasn't for budget reasons, would have made it to the screen. It's a great game as well. If you want to miss out on something glorious then that's sad on you.
Nevermind the fact it's considered one of the best SPACE games ever made.
Anyway next episode
Episode 24 - Ménage à Troi
>5/10
Say some scenes are definitely a 6 or even a 7/10 but overall it's 5. It's an enjoyable episode with some fun acting in it. Lwaxana is enjoyable to watch in this and here to call Troi out that she needs to get her life in order. I do love the implications here though that the Federation cannot patrol it's space and worse still, cannot defend what is later revealed to be a core world from someone kidnapping their citizens.
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70af65 No.27875
>>27874
Some of the reactions in this are priceless and some instances of the actors looking into the camera. Rikers smug face is great.
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70af65 No.27876
>>27875
What is it with the extras this season looking like they just banged Ezri Dax?
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70af65 No.27877
>>27876
Holme does that John Travolta thing that I probably should webm.
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70af65 No.27879
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70af65 No.27880
>>27879
Interesting after making a big deal about woman and clothing the Ferengi seem to wear the robes they were using to cover themselves up.
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70af65 No.27881
Picards Shakespeare was good. Although I wish they got rid of Wesley
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70af65 No.27882
>>27881
Troi autistically screeching to her mother was surprisingly decent.
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70af65 No.27897
Episode 25 - Transfigurations
>3/10
Might be rating it a bit highly if I am honest but it is an enjoyable watch. Despite being absolutely fucking retarded. Basically it's about Space Jesus ascending and Geordi getting laid. Two things that break this episode for me. One is the fact they wait till they are on a planet's surface without any protective gear on to determine if the environment is safe. Second is that random weapon that made the crew choke itself to death, it was so retarded and made no sense. Say nothing of the horrid effects at end.
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70af65 No.27898
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70af65 No.27899
>>27898
This episode has a stench of filler
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70af65 No.27900
>>27899
And plot convience.
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70af65 No.27901
>>27900
Probably could squeeze more Worf webms out this episode but I am glad it's over really.
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2aac63 No.27906
>>27900
I remember the glowing spandex. That was a petty shit effect.
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70af65 No.28131
Well suppose I best get this out of the way while insomnia keeps me awake
Episode 26 - The Best of Both Worlds Part 1
>6/10
I don't think this episode was that great if I am honest. The tone was certainly good and it was quite spooky and even scary as the crew looked in geniune peril. Furthermore the stakes felt real. What lets it down is that it sort of drags a little and some rather confusing scenes in hindsight. Stewart looks insanely bored in this episode for most scenes as if he is just waiting for his contract to be over which probably isn't far from the truth, so is performance isn't as strong as it usually is. It's the first of what becomes a Trek tradition for a while in that it's a two parter episode at the season finale that leads onto the next season. This particular one doesn't exactly work as they build up suspense at the end but you really know their weapon at end is going to fail, otherwise they would have a two parter with the second half with a lot of empty space.
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70af65 No.28132
>>28131
Shelby I am not sure how to take her. She certainly is a bitch who oversteps her bounds quite a few times. On the otherhand she successfully emasculates Will Riker which I found kind of amusing. She serves also to draw attention to what has been an elephant in the room, the eternal number 1 and why he hasn't got his own command yet?
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70af65 No.28133
>>28132
Stewart did feel like he was phoning it in a little in this episode. Also here is an example of a confusing scene; why is Shelby instructing Data instead of Worf at Tactical about adjusting phaser frequencies?
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70af65 No.28134
>>28133
Not much I felt that was webm worthy apart from Worf's failures. Then again this episode was pretty serious.
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175c62 No.28207
>>28131
>This particular one doesn't exactly work as they build up suspense at the end but you really know their weapon at end is going to fail
you didn't know that when it premiered in 1990 ;)
>>28132
>Shelb
it's a shame that Picards assimilation really didn't have any meaningful lasting consequence to his character. On the other hand, Wil Riker being established as a overweight, stalled-out has-been with depression and low-T is perfect because it's persistent and they don't really have to do anything later to remind us of it. It's self-evident. Unfortunately, they subvert it later on with frosted frakes flash-forward plots that show him as a captain and later admiral, which really was never going to happen. He might have achieved the rank of Captain, like Spock and Scotty did - but he'd never have his own command. He's a terminal first officer.
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a73dcb No.28208
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f72a1a No.28210
>>28207
>like Spock and Scotty did
I'd like to think they tried to give Scotty numerous commands over they years and he just kept telling them to shove it
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175c62 No.28211
>>28208
>TNG films are canon
welcome to /strek/ newfriend! those late-tng era ships are objectively terrible
>>28210
Scotty was command qualified since TOS. He was more likely to have his own ship over Dr. Crusher and so many others but he was retirement age by the end of Star Trek VI. I dont buy him getting his own command either.
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a73dcb No.28213
>>28211
>implying newfaggotry
I've probably been here longer than you, faget.
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e4cb21 No.28322
>>27151
Pretty consistently terrible ratings. The episode with data's "daughter" in particular, it was just boring and dull besides being seriously stupid, with her constantly "learning" things she should've already known as well as spontaneously generating opinions while feigning "neutrality" (though I guess this is just a general flaw in the concept of Data's character to begin with, to be fair).
Also it's moral is shit, in that it implies a complex machine spontaneously becomes a person (an idiotic and naive opinion), as well as having a big-league stupid and perverse ending. The only entertaining bit of the episode is when the admiral arrives and starts talking some damn sense. Of course Picard starts with some sense as well, but soon enough he's parroting the position of the slack-jawed fool mesmerized by the magical computer machine. And if we forgot for a moment that a computer being conscious because of it's great number of processors makes as much sense as a motor being conscious because of it's great number of gears, that just makes the ending worse; well my daughter died, but that's okay, because I absorbed her mind into my own! This is some really sick shit, who thought that that should be the parting moment of cold comfort?
But besides that, some of the most atrociously shit taste I've ever seen. Bad ratings across the board, great episodes rated low (the defector was brilliant), shit episodes rated high ("The Picard, the Picard wants me to do this arbitrary nonsense! This is an accurate depiction of how myths and religions developed, not just a gay fedora pop-psych meme!" episode was terrible; same story as lal: gay, boring, stupid, etc). Incredible that you could be so wrong so consistently, well done.
But overall unironically good thread, thanks for taking the time to put it together.
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a584f3 No.28336
>>28322
Nobody likes you, Searle. Go away.
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ef1ca0 No.28343
>>28322
>Doesn't like Data's Daughter
Wait till you have kids.
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70af65 No.28472
>>28322
I designed my rating scale just to trigger you anon.
>Data's Daughter is boring and dull
I think you missed the point of the episode incredibly. The ending I do agree was a bit dumb and I felt tacted on as it'd be too much a hit of the feels.
>Defector is good
It's good if you don't think about the episode at all but once you use a small modicum of brain power it completely unravels itself. There are far too many glaring plotholes that pop up that make absolutely zero sense unless the writers are blatantly admitting that Starfleet is a completely incompetent organization that would be unable to wipe it's own ass without assistance which might be true considering my feelings on Starfleet but it's a really tough pill to swallow
I am debating whether or not to continue onto Season 4 and do a writeup for Season 3 overall.
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