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>>15547975 Lord Ahmed: Ex-Labour peer jailed for child sex offences

>>15548005 Arrested and ignored: The ordeal of grooming gang victims at hands of authorities there to protect them

>>15548019 Child sexual exploitation by organised networks Investigation Report

>>15550050 ‘Urban explorer’ sneaks on to top secret germ warfare base

>>15553955 Oil Shipments in European Oil Hub Delayed After Cyber Attacks

>>15554028 Brexit Boon for Belfast Harbour

>>15554512 PCR testing in U.K. is inconsistently performed & is essentially fraudulent

>>15556773 Queen Elizabeth Proclaims Camilla Will Be “Queen Consort” When Charles Becomes King

>>15586714 Communist China Backs Argentina’s Claim to British Falklands, Bribes Buenos Aires with Belt and Road Cash

>>15586839 PM Expects End to ALL Remaining COVID Restrictions, Including Self-Isolation Orders, by End of this Month

>>15587353 Arcanum dig - Christopher Steele Connection

>>15591696 Human trafficking ring smashed as suspect traced in Liverpool

>>15596135 Cressida Dick to step down as Metropolitan Police chief

>>15622862 13 people injured after floor collapses at London’s Two More Years bar

>>15627059 Borice tweets Precipice

>>15634769 COVID-19 jab is packed with carbon nanotubes

>>15634800 Inventer of tech found in jabs tries to distance his involvement

>>15634823 'I would be prepared to face charges' if conversion therapy ban stops proper Christian support

>>15636217 Metropolitan Police Federation Declares ‘No Faith’ in London Mayor Sadiq Khan

>>15636298 ‘Education, Not Indoctrination’: UK Minister Demands Schools Uphold Political Impartiality

>>15636370 Covid in Wales: All five to 11-year-olds offered jabs

>>15636821 Priti Patel pulls rug from under Sadiq Khan with new rule to diminish London Mayor's power

>>15637428 Royal expert dissects Prince Andrew's out-of-court settlement with Virginia Giuffre

>>15645470 Nick Clegg gets bigger role at Facebook owner Meta

>>15652315 Man gets 3 years in prison for sending 3 letters with no threats.

>>15653454 Queen admits her frailty 'I can't move' in her second audience of the year

>>15660529 Nuclear missile warning: RAF fears UK early warning systems thwarted during Russia crisis

>>15661289 Thousands of Britons facing internet BLACKOUT as Musk's satellites in 'critical' state

>>15678010 Triple-Jabbed Queen Elizabeth II, 95, Positive for Coronavirus

>>15689722 OnlyFans accused of conspiring to blacklist rivals

>>15689735 West Midlands hit by earthquake

>>15689762 Victoria de Rothschild’s Arty, Colorful Jewels to Be Sold at Auction

>>15690095 Diane von Furstenberg Will Receive the 2022 Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Woman of Leadership Award

>>15690318 Emily Maitlis quits Newsnight as host leaves BBC after 20 years 'It's a wrench'

>>15691137 Pedo symbols and 666 at World Economic Forum headquarters in Geneva

>>15695216 VIDEO: Maajid Nawaz on Joe Rogan

>>15698266 , >>15698355 , >>15698579 Anon dig on Global Radio

>>15704752 A Q account has been set up on truth social proir to DJT, also 3 year delta with corresponding Q post.

>>15715003 3 Public World Economic Forum Documents have been resealed for 55 years

>>15718665 UK Broadcasting Regulator Could Move To BAN RT News After Russia’s Ukraine Invasion

>>15718760 Charities have urged the UK to welcome thousands of refugees from Ukraine

>>15740592 Martin Geddes praises Anons ;)

>>15743162 UK May Close Ports To Russian Ships

>>15748918 Former police officer in Rotherham ‘failed to investigate abuse claims’

>>15769627 Russian LNG Cargoes to Europe Disrupted by Looming Port Bans

>>15776925 Ukrainian oligarch found dead in UK mansion

>>15863682 BoJo Begs Saudis For More Oil

>>15863682 BoJo Begs Saudis For More Oil

>>15911215 Prime Ministers visit to the World Economic Forum 1992

>>15911250 Davos World Economic Forum 1991

>>15911240 Davos World Economic Forum 1988

WINTER WONDERLAND DIG-UK ANONS NARROW THE DATES USING BURNT LIGHTS AT FOOD STAND BUNS

>>15950355 Videos

>>15951174 Stills and Vidcaps Part One

>>15951413 Bulb Charts

>>15954399 The Hunt for Stuffed Animals and Red Shopping Bags Bun

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LATEST NEWS:

Bread #43 was going over the Hyde Park Winter Wonderland of the 2013/2014 Season. Two Q pics, 1405 and 1456 showed a couple, taking a selfie in 1456, in front of the Wilde Maus roller coaster in the plaza we bagan to call the Power Tower Plaza after another ride there. Scrutiny of whole videos, vidcaps, and still images has been undertaken in an effort to date the pic. Anons have been greatly focused on one particular food stall at the right front of the Wide Maus coaster. The X-MAS GRILLE as its banner sign indicates, is having the light bulbs on the banner sign and the front and eaves to find a date match by which bulbs are unlit.

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Wayback Machine for old archived websites https://web.archive.org

Tin Eye to find original posting date and source of pics https://tineye.com/

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Westminster Planning Applications https://idoxpa.westminster.gov.uk/online-applications/

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UK Pics Background and SitRep

Embankment Pictures

On February 16th 2018 Q posted a picture from a London Traffic Cam by Embankment Staion [https://qalerts.pub/?n=784], the image was of London traffic and Big Ben. The File Name of the picture was NSA_Traf_CAM_LONDON2847.png. 9 minutes later Q posted a stringer warning to the UK of a possible car attack.

3 Months later on May 20th 2018 Q posted a series of 3 pictures [https://qalerts.pub/?n=1423] from the same traffic camera which was rotated through 3 positions. Q was telling us this camera has a field of view from the Corinthia hotel and up the Victoria Embankment towards Parliament.

2 months later on the 27th of July 2018 Q reposted one of the previous pictures with people circled [https://qalerts.pub/?n=1720], this was tentatively identified as Lisa Page, lover of disgraced traitor and FBI goon Peter Strzok.

Q revists the theme again on February the 18th 2019 when Q posts 3 more pictures of the Corinthia hotel from the same camera [https://qalerts.pub/?n=2797] indicating that the couple may have been staying there.

17th May 2018 Pictures

On the 17th of May Q posted a series of pictures from two locations in London and several locations in China, there is likely a connection between the two. An anon posted a theory which Q quoted indicating that the theory was on the right lines. The China pics were of pallets of boxed technology (possibly secure satellite phones that operate on a Chinese satellite), the Foxconn factory and an airport with a Chinese plane at a gate. The theory suggested that China were supplying secure communication devices to the cabal so that they could communicate without sigint (Signals Intercept) by the NSA. The London connection is through Lisa Page and Peter Strzok, the lovers were secretly in London (perhaps arriving by boat on the Thames to avoid official record of the visit) and being surveilled by the Q team the whole time. The theory stated they were either collecting or distributing these communication devices for other cabal members, Q also posted a picture from the plane and an Owl and the Space Shuttle.

Piccadilly Circus Pictures https://qalerts.pub/?n=1405

In post 1405, which is the first of the 17th of May series, Q posted a picture of a red London Routemaster bus, Q also posted a Winter Wonderland picture of 2 peoples legs, The Red Bus picture was titled Fsurv_londonps1.png, Presumably someone in the picture is of interest, its likely this picture was posted to inform the person who is being surveilled that they were being watched. The following post [https://qalerts.pub/?n=1406] contained two more pictures from Piccadilly circus. The picture is of a road sign and the Cool Britannia giftshop. The Cool Britannia giftshop has similar archways to that of the temple on Epstein Island and the Aleppo Bathhouse Hammam Yalbugha.

Winter Wonderland Pictures

Q posted the first Winter Wonderland picture of 2 peoples legs on the plastic flooring at Winter Wonderland, A second picture of the Wilde Maus Roller-coaster was posted about a month later [https://qalerts.pub/?n=1456]

Black Box

The Black Box Pic was posted by Q on the 27th Of July 2018 [https://qalerts.pub/?n=1725] in Reply to the WARNING Stay alert post back in February 2018.

Anons found the black box stands alongside bus shelter 'S' by Westminster Abbey in London. Its precise location is outside No 4 Victoria street. No 4 Victoria Street used to have a branch of the corrupt HSBC bank and Anons found out it is the home of the National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC House). Other tenants of the building seem to have links to Iran. The building across the street from the black box is the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy.

The black box is about a 11 minute walk from Thames House, the home of the Security Service [MI5] and a 23 minute walk from the Secret Intelligence Service [MI6]. Q's Picture of the box featured a Qanon sticker with a White Rabbit, the text said "The Storm is Coming". Subsequent pictures of the box always shows that lots of stickers have been put on the box, it seems to be a popular "Slap Tagging" location but Anons think this could be a form of discreet communication either by White Hats or Black Hats. A recent visit to the box by an anon shows the box in desperate need of repainting because it has been constantly scrubbed clean by street cleaners indicating a massive amount of stickers has been put on the box in the last 2 years.

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>>15795216 Clockwork Qrange #15

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>>>/qrb/13005 Planefagging 101 Q&A

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>>15592235 ————————————–——– Australia #21

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>>15801702 ————————————–——– Canada #30

>>15744684 ————————————–——– France #6

>>15830234 ————————————–——– Germany #94

>>15198192 ————————————–——– Italia #2

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>>14475779 ————————————–——– New Zealand #9

>>14493540 ————————————–——– Scotland #5

>>15493933 ————————————–——– South Africa #7

updated dough

https://controlc.com/9c3161ac

>>15955070

FYI, Italia #2 is currently locked t keep out the pedo bear shill

Detailed view of area within camera frame of CLAS_WW_UK_ACTIVE_T - Q1456, key part of LondonPicsWW.

https://youtu.be/CpRGKZH4ZKE

>>15955493

Yellow rectangle.

>>15955052

Tanks Bakes.

>>15958928

Pic comparison.

(A) Q1456

Shot with wider angled lens, distorted, night with loads of ambient artificial light, possible filler flash from man's camphone, note his shadow on her shoulder/facial flank, cam vantage above typical head height but including lots of vertical ie coaster and sky above, subject of photo ambiguos – the Plaza backdrop. Posed for photo within photo. Note tickets in hand.

(B) Q1721

Shot in broad daylight, winter in Wash DC, zoomed, medium distance, pro photo snapper, candid pic not staged in obvios pose. Could've been staged but looks impromptu with subject unprepared, unaware.

For emphasis, Q1456 was photo within photo. The subject held tickets in pose for selfie in front of one of the main attractions of 2013 WW season. The Q pic could've been taken by friendly along for the ride/day. BUT cam position suggests possibility of mounted device either handheld by pedestrian or fixed on nearby structure.

My hunch is fixed to structure behind wooden towers with clear line of sight into Plaza. Hunch = speculation. Gatheribg ictorial evidence. Request for pics, vids, caps from towers and behind. Even revist prev sauces.

Significance? If fixed, AND friendly, then "knowingly", then friendly with security. Useful for dating pic, IDK, however, if Q Pic and selfie pic indicate tickets for Wilde Mouse rather than other rides, THEN, could be other pics taken by commercial camera on tracks by Wilde Mous attraction. Such pics are timed per car and offered for a fee. Not saved … unless … seewatEYEmeans, frens?

>>15959176 (me)

oops, the post was:

General Research #20177 >>15955181

Didn't think to look up Q1722 (literal 300 years ago) until just now. Just so happens to include "sea level" beside the curved London street being cross by the famous LOVERS, kek, with Themes and the EYE in the background. Today is the first day of Daylight Savings Time ("Dark to Light") in the UK… and Mother's Day. Anon wonders if Mother's Day is a "think mirror, and instead of a birth, the Queen Mother dies.

>>15959176

Yeh, that was a pic that Q reposted. It compared crosswalk woman w news photo of LP however the emphasisnof anon's comparison was big handbag. Looked bit like quasi briefcase for office. Oversized for purse, IDK.

https://qanon.pub/data/media/12d57a5523bba938f1a82d5b20e8905327925ddad6674ef04c85885ae8c2bf64.jpeg

In reposted pic, was that a red bag? Colour scheme.

>>15959459

Consider:

The Embankment series shows Lisa Page and Peter Stzrok (FBI Counter-Intelligence) working to make sure Hillary Clinton is POTUS in 2016 Election. Imagine not enough Dominion/Smartmatic voting machines are in place to ensure victory, thus "insurance policy." Does not matter who else is running against HRC, just that victory must be assured. These two are Minor Players that may be used in a Major way. Low enough level to be moved so as Gina Haspel, C_A Station Cheif at the time would not worry so much and if she did, Brennan would say "it's cool" and she'd leave it alone.

Winter Wonderland shows Fang Fang, Chinese intel agent, and Eric Swalwell, House Intelligence Committee. Recall that Hillary's private server granted access to China. China has a huge stake in HRC being President, as in continuing Hussein's sell out via the Trans Pacific Partnership. Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein are both cool with this as they get enriched since Feinstein's husband negotiated the deal that gave China control over so much of the Los Angeles/Long Beach Port Complex. Pelosi's Dad had Mafia ties, so I bet she does as well and maybe Tong connections or at least more Mafia in California. I tend to think Pelosi was told "a deal is being made, do your part and you are Speaker of the House in a Democrat Majority."

The Black Box indicates involvement of Iran, as said box is just outside NIOC House, as in National Iranian Oil Company for new eyes, a place known to have been the site of deals made to supply Iran with weapons and equipment previously. Recall Hussein sending pallets of cash to Iran for the Nuclear Deal. How does one get pallets of anything meant to stay hidden from the United States to Iran? That's Logistics, with a bit of having any one outside the loop that reports such a matter discredited or outright silenced.

An aircraft departing the US and arriving at Heathrow is a common occurance. Military aircraft depart US and arriving in UK also common. Trying to aerial refuel for direct flight to Iran adds too many pieces, and increases the risk that said aircraft will have an in-flight problem. Divert Field? Complication. Crash? Big Complication, what was promised was not delivered when promised.

Iran wants to have Power and Influence in the Region, something they have never really had. A nuclear-capable Iran puts a boot on the neck of Saudi Arabia, and Shi'ite Iran wants to make Sunni Saudi Arabia kowtow very badly. Old scores to settle. Iran, with US dollars to buy, gets what they need from France, China, and former Soviets to become a Nuclear Power in exchange for taking over as the Boogeyman. Russia is doing their own thing, creating gas pipelines to Europe and such. The Cold War is over, so Military-Industrial Complex needs someone to fear to convince tax payers that these hugely expensive weapons systems they want to sell are for protection. Nuke-capable Iran makes the total forces of Saudi Ariabia, Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, and basically any Nation in range of a missile neglibible. Thus the need for the World's Policeman, the United States.

The mullahs in Iran enjoy Power and Influence to threaten any neighbour country, or Israel, or really anybody they want and finally be a Big Player on the World Stage. US has a fear-factor for "wet-dream weapons" and other NATO countries continue to reduce Forces as a "Peace Dividend" because the now defunct Soviet Union was a lot closer than far-off Iran. Let the World's Policeman deal with them with their wonder-weapons at US taxpayers expense so we in Europe may win Popular Support for whatever we may do in Europe. Germany shall cover autobans and farm fields with solar panels (not that efficient, really bad on a cloudy day and useless covered in snow but Hey! We are saving you from Climate Change)

>>15960059

>The Embankment series shows Lisa Page and Peter Stzrok (FBI Counter-Intelligence) working to make sure Hillary Clinton is POTUS in 2016 Election.

Not confirmed that either or both outside USA kuch less in London. Pics very open to many directions.

Your speculations are plausible, by means other than presence of two particular indivuals within London pics. In a way that reduces significance of the place and time of the pics. Not necessarily a bad thing, natch, but also not necessary.

Can't ID the woman with just these pics coz too blurred. Wilde-Mous-produced pics and/or ticket purchases and/or travel expenses could do it and we have no access on our own. Need moar on whereabouts of LP or Fang to place one near the scene. At least out of USA.

The little we do have does not exclude LP in the WW pics. On other hand, eyes, cheeks, mouth and height make a fair Q match. Not firmly locked, still open.

Have noticed lots of doubles, vaguely look-alikes, on scenes of false flag events. Sometimes a hat or length,of hair or top or trousers is enough in blurry pics. But in WW vids, hardly any red touques, which miggt expect to be quite common during Chridtmas time at Chtistmas themed park.

>>15958928

Anon, how did you get that enhanced WW couple pic? I could not comment on it before knowing whether it is a simple enhancement or a blend of another picture to arrive at that image.

Do not want to be thought a gatekeeper, but please be on guard against conflating the images of people at EMBANKMENT (ie the woman with a shoulder bag) with the people at WW (woman with a shoulder bag) without further information.

I see anons have mentioned LP and FF as possible ID’s. To conflate the two locations to the exclusion of one woman over another could possibly exclude the wrong woman from our consideration.

By all means scrutinize both locations separately for each woman.

As for the EMB woman, I can’t rule out LP but neither can I say it is her. As for the WW woman, I can’t rule out FF but can’t say it’s her.

I will say, the woman at WW seems to have a higher hairline than LP and a fuller head of hair, from the front and from behind, in the Q pics than I see in stock images of LP.

I’ve always kept a skeptical outlook that it is necessarily LP at all in the London pics. Imho, Q has let it be known many times that disinfo is necessary and to be accepted as a reality on the playing field. Keeping this in mind, an anon can judge for themselves those times when Q links to anons who have allowed themselves to speculate on the Q pics (NSA trafcams at locations where they would not existing in Winter 2013 according to SV is one example). I think Q gives us a loose leash that allows us to mislead ourselves, (and others). Who knows if Q did not allow us to mislead ourselves when linking to another anon who posted that graphic of LP in a similar waistcoat. Look VERY closely at the woman’s coat in the WW pic from behind. Pay attention to its quilting, the large hood. Belt? Look at the Lisa Paige coat, its belt, the collar area. Hood? My money says it’s not even the same coat.

Spygate/RussiaGate= 2016

London pics= 2013

When did the fBeye thing against Trump happen? In Winter 2013?

Or 2016Could the 2013 thing be some other thing with different players?

Iirc didn’t LP’s bio say she was a prosecutor in some gang enforcement unit before transfer to work with 7th floor. Wonder if she had any MS13 cases.

Just sayin keep an open mind anons.

>>15960059

>The Embankment series shows Lisa Page and Peter Stzrok (FBI Counter-Intelligence) working to make sure Hillary Clinton is POTUS in 2016 Election.

I think not in December 2013.

Here are some questions. Why is an ATTORNEY for DOJ/FBI in London on business.

Agents do agent stuff. Attorneys do attorney stuff. Agents investigate. Attorneys say what can be FILED or shared from a file.

Can agents share stuff in a FILE? Or do you need an attorney to share stuff in a FILE?

When do you need an ATTORNEY? Who is authorized to transport a FILE?

Why would a US ATTORNEY have to go to the UK to talk to someone in the UK GOVT?

Would a US ATTORNEY need to go to the UK to share stuff in a DOJ file if it was about a US citizen?

>>15961016

>Anon, how did you get that enhanced WW couple pic? I could not comment on it before knowing whether it is a simple enhancement or a blend of another picture to arrive at that image.

Fren, got some tools at hand. That pic is by-product from basic enlargement for other purposes. Of course, when in doubt, return to the original. General features and shadow are alike in both versions. View of hairline has been partially obscured by man's shadow.

>>15961175

In 2013, LP was mother of very young children. Also was very junior at DOJ. To climb she'd need to be loyal and helpful to someone also climbing.

Maybe dig her career moves and prepare timeline for any indication of London connexion. That might place her at crosswalk or at WW. If you find she was somewhere else, that would be useful. Process of elimination.

Did she travel to London for other reasons, including personal vacations, education, running marathons (spring), watching Wimbledon (summer), and so forth.

>>15955052

>>15703750 Notable documentary PB

Special Escort group, documentary recorded 2000 as well as 2013; released 2014 and postee 2015.

>>15707788 all PB #43

>>15769256

>>15769458 Victoria Street re Black Box pic.

>>15769530 crossing Lambeth Bridge

>>15769724 2013 footage of Embankment

>>15769775 error in date in documentary

>>15769796

>>15769883 BMW v Honda motorbikes

>>15769965, >>15771501

>>15955052

>>15779927 PB #43

22 DEC 2013 Taken like riverwall adboard pic.

Tattershall Castle pic, Tatt = Q match.

Shows BB shroud Q match.

Hispaniola Q match

>>15958032, >>15958313

>>15780101 PB #43

>>15780422 PB #43

Previously had determined that CH2 was not taken after 2 MAR 2014 which is the date that a stock photo was taken and which showed the 1st Aid sign. This moves the bookend. CH2 could not have been taken after 27 JAN 2014.

>>15780717 PB #43

22 DEC 2013 Taken.

Bike parked at Corinthia Hotel, Q match.

>>15780437 PB #43

TATT pic 25 JAN 2014 Taken.

>>15780534 PB #43

Red Bus scene pic w/o Christmas lights.

22 JAN 2014 Taken.

Q pic was not taken after 22 JAN 2014.

>>15780602 PB #43

Previous evidence of a police viewing deck present 1 JAN 2014 (within area captured in Red Bus pic) can now be compared with the lack of such a deck in position on 22 JAN 2014.

>>15780632 PB #43

Piccadilly Circus scene pics

4 DEC 2013 and 22 DEC 2013 Taken.

Intact snow globe.

>>15780757 PB #43

Riverwall adboard, Q match.

22 DEC 2013 Taken.

>>15780935 PB #43

CH corner w parked bike, NOT Q Match due to details near bike. Prolly means that the Q pics were not taken on 22 DEC 2013 but that date can not be ruled out given the temporary nature of these markers which are easily moveable.

Note: lots of interdasting pictorial evidence supports late DEC 2013 for Emk and Piccadilly pics.

>>15857085 PB #43

>>15852246 revisiting Ww pics.

As the digs progressed, the werk moved from the 2015/2016 assumption and into narrowing the dating of each pic. Despite all the sauces available online and elsewhere, the WW pics have not been narrowed more tightly than the basic open and close dates of the theme park.

Maybe an Anon will revisit the pictorial evidence and make progress we haven't had on WW for quite some time now.

>>15855158 PB #43

What I hate about that WW pics is that there is not so much as a single burned out light bulb in the decorations that might have helped to narrow down the date. One would expect everything perfect at the beginning but maybe some burned out bulbs as the weeks progress? Needle in a haystack.

>>15857085 PB #43

There were burned out bulbs or malfunctining lights on the Wilde Mause. These distinguished 2012/2013 from 2013/2014. Those two years were arguably the closest.

Another subtle detail was the overhead guide wire that appeared in the 2012/2013 season but not in 2013/2014 and is a key differentiator.

>>15857244 PB #43

Look closely at the Q pic of Wilde Maus. Search for at least one car on the tracks. I could find none. This is unusual, I think, based on loads of vids and images from the theme park at all hours of the day through out the weeks open.

Lack of kiddies = clue to time of day. Likewise the lack of a heavy crowd in the Plaza.

>>15960944

>Not confirmed that either or both outside USA kuch less in London.

Must be a way

Four individuals, and Imma gonna say agin the lady in the WW pic is Asian. That is NOT LP.

Have not done too much Embankment-wise irt the peeps in the pic, more into Tatts and all.

I say again, the woman in the WW Q pic is Asian.

The woman has her hair swept behind her Right ear, as Fang Fang is wont to do.. Lisa Page's hair is not thick enough to do that in the way the pic shows AND LP has a tendency to sweep behind both ears if at all.

Now look at the nose of Stzrok, Priestap, and Swalwell irt the red hatted dude in the WW Q pic. That is most likely Swalwell's big nose.

Put it this way: if a couple crossing eastward on Northumberland Avenue, and another couple taking a selfie at WW were insignificant, why did Q drop those images? Actually THOSE images? Not any other couples crossing Northumberland nor any other couples at WW?

I just got pulled in over a paddle steamer turned pub on the Thames a while ago.

I just say again I see the woman in the WW pic is Asian, and dude has big nose.

I make no effort to be perfect, nor even good.

That woman in WW taking a selfie is Asian. TATTERSHALL CASTLE has not had stack colors like those (white capped) after Jan 2015 and HISPANIOLA has NOT ridden that high in her moorings.

Anons will nail this, I have NO DOUBT

I do must go now, a chance to sleep and shower before spinning metal blades

Might be LP in Embankment, but NO WAY in WW pic

Later Beloved Frens

>>15868004 PB #43

Parts of the wooden tower which housed a snack stand; it was one of two towers that appeared in that position in the Plaza and were first intoduced in 2013/2014. In later seasons, these looked different and appeared in diff positions and locations. So 2013/2014 setip was unique. Greatly useful marker.

The steeply sloped roof of Apres Bar was in that position next to the coaster ride at the Plaza for just that one season, winter 2013/2014.

>>15868107 PB #43

The popularity of Wilde Maus stands in contrast with the paucity of partakers qued-up in this particular pair of WW pics.

>>15869808, >>15869836, >>15869940 PB #43

Dailed lighting on various rides.

>>15870425 PB #43

The lights on Xmas Grille stall. Well spotted.

>>15961896

Process of elimination. Dig his schedule and appearances. Buttress the theory. Add facts.

Or go for positive evidence he was in London. Either way, fill in the blanks.

Examples.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Eric_Swalwell_in_2013

https://swalwell.house.gov/media-center/in-the-news?page=9

Swalwell in California in NOV 2013.

https://swalwell.house.gov/media-center/in-the-news/sandia-kicks-habitat-humanity-project-labs-volunteers-rebuild-house

Swalwell in California on 15 DEC 20139

https://swalwell.house.gov/media-center/in-the-news/congressman-helps-locals-buying-christmas-trees

Swalwell, at East Bay Chinese Student Association event, 9 Feb 2013.

https://twitter.com/ericswalwell/status/300488618693234688

>>15964276, >>15964214

Summary to-date in dig.

Bulb pattern on Xmas Grille roof, re XM.

Consistencies?

a) 8 leftmost positions as follows,

Lit = 1, 2, 4, 6, 8

Unlit = 3, 5, 7

Lit-lit, unlit-lit, unlit-lit, unlit-lit

b) 14 middle positions as follows,

Lit = 15, 18, 20 to 27

Unlit = 16, 17, 19

Lit-unlit-unlit, lit-unlit, lit x 8

Consistencies when in shot/discernible?

c) 5 rightmost positions as follows,

Lit = 29 to 32

Unlit = 28

Unlit, lit x 4

Inconsistencies or changes across dates captured?

d) 9 lit mostly, 1 exception, 15-DEC-2013-T

e) 11 unlit mostly, except 19-DEC-2013-T

and Q pic

f) 14 lit mostly, except 24-NOV-2013-T

and 25-NOV-2013-T

Banner sign bulbs mostly lit but a few did appear unlit at times.

1) Bottom left = unlit 5 of 6 instances

Q pic?

2) Left = unlit 3 of 3

Q pic?

3) Top = 2 of 6

4) Right = 1 of 6

Showed 2 unlit positions in one indtance

17-DEC-2013-T

Gud Q Matches?

Two candidates at this moment in the dig.

15-DEC-2013-T if Q pic banner unlit bottom

19-DEC-2013-T if Q pic banner unlit left

Just a summary and remains open for moar observs and evidence. Q pic now looking like close to mid-DEC-2012.

Are you surprised that the pixels showed that much? More than we know.

>>15964716

>Q pic now looking like close to mid-DEC-2012.

Correction.

2013

Q pic now looking like close to mid-DEC-2013.

NOT 2012.

mid-DEC-2013.

Will repost.

>>15964276, >>15964214

Summary to-date in dig. [CORRECTED]

Bulb pattern on Xmas Grille roof, re XM.

Consistencies?

a) 8 leftmost positions as follows,

Lit = 1, 2, 4, 6, 8

Unlit = 3, 5, 7

Lit-lit, unlit-lit, unlit-lit, unlit-lit

b) 14 middle positions as follows,

Lit = 15, 18, 20 to 27

Unlit = 16, 17, 19

Lit-unlit-unlit, lit-unlit, lit x 8

Consistencies when in shot/discernible?

c) 5 rightmost positions as follows,

Lit = 29 to 32

Unlit = 28

Unlit, lit x 4

Inconsistencies or changes across dates captured?

d) 9 lit mostly, 1 exception, 15-DEC-2013-T

e) 11 unlit mostly, except 19-DEC-2013-T

and Q pic

f) 14 lit mostly, except 24-NOV-2013-T

and 25-NOV-2013-T

Banner sign bulbs mostly lit but a few did appear unlit at times.

1) Bottom left = unlit 5 of 6 instances

Q pic?

2) Left = unlit 3 of 3

Q pic?

3) Top = 2 of 6

4) Right = 1 of 6

Showed 2 unlit positions in one indtance

17-DEC-2013-T

Gud Q Matches?

Two candidates at this moment in the dig.

15-DEC-2013-T if Q pic banner unlit bottom

19-DEC-2013-T if Q pic banner unlit left

Just a summary and remains open for moar observs and evidence. Q pic now looking like close to mid-DEC-2013.

Are you surprised that the XM's pixels showed that much? More have than we knew/know.

>>15964784

>e) 11 unlit mostly, except 19-DEC-2013-T

> and Q pic

THIS may be decisive distinguisher.

Still to be resolved = need moar.

1) Bottom left = unlit 5 of 6 instances

Q pic?

2) Left = unlit 3 of 3

Q pic?

>Gud Q Matches?

>Two candidates at this moment in the dig.

>15-DEC-2013-T if Q pic banner unlit bottom

>19-DEC-2013-T if Q pic banner unlit left

>>15964862

Position #11 was unlit in Q pic.

As it was in all except

24-NOV-2013-T

and

25-NOV-2013-P

>>15964817

Bulb position #9 was lit in all except

15-DEC-2013-T, but lit again 17-DEC-2013-T.

UNLIT in Q pic.

>>15964817

The banner sign may be decisive.

Did Q pic capture ANY unlit bulbs on banner?

If not, then, could be AFTER 19-DEC-2013-T.

>>15955052

The things I forget

UK #43

Stills and Vidcaps Part Two

>>15935058 X-MAS GRILLE banner sign enlargement 15DEC2013P

>>15935435 Comparison Q pic 1456 with 15DEC2013P

>>15953874 Plaza caps from vid posted March 26, 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpRGKZH4ZKE

>>15964958

Looks to me like an unlit in lower left side of banner in Q1456

>>15964214

Thanks anon for putting those together. Speaking only about this your post I am linking to: I think I agree on your placing the 19DEC vidcap toward the top near the NOV dates. I might place the Q pic BELOW the 15DEC date because the #9 bulb possibly being replaced and showing LIT thereafter.

Nao, speaking to your later post showing an additional UNLIT light on the banner of the Q pic: >>15964276

I will agree that the banner lights look weak on the lower left.

So, where do you NOW think the Q pic belongs? >>15964214

The most outlying of the banner light patterns seems the 19DEC vid. We must make some findings about this vid. Do we agree that only that upper left light is unlit? Or can any weakness in the lower lights’ glare be detected? Are we at all confident of the posted date?

Consider this vlogger prides himself on being at opening day. It’s his selling point to be exclusive. That said, did the guy make a comment about that vid being a ‘return’ encore kind of visit? He did regret the haunted house not being up and operating. Why didn’t he say, Oh well, it was great two weeks ago?

Another observation is that the UNLIT LOWER banner bulb seems to be a chronically defective light position in all our samples except 19DEC. Should we take a 2nd look at that spot in 19DEC?

It becomes a mystery then if this LOWER banner, chronically unlit, bulb position is made to operate later. Try a piece of scratch paper and give the 19DEC that unlit lower banner bulb that all the others have. For me it would place it right under the NOV banners. This would make it the last of the UPPER LEFT unlit banner lights.

Then 15DEC. This then allows for either 17DEC or the Q banner to be last.

Note: The above theory assumes burned out light bulbs being replaced on at least 2 or 3 occasions.

>>15964784

I want to apologize for inserting a misspelling of X-MAS GRILL early in the conversation. I hope this hasn’t affected and search results.

>>15966700

Another error I inserted into the discussion is a misspelling of the 17 DEC photographer’s name. Correct spelling: Kalin Kalpachev.

>>15967174

Gud eye. We know what we are looking for nao. What I like about these pics is that it is another PROOF of ongoing bulb replacement. See my next post.

>>15967793

May need to look at our 15DEC banner pic. Can’t tell whether or not something could be blocking our view of the left side banner lights in this vid sequence you capped.

>>15967793

Up until nao, we have not made an eaves/banner diagram of this vid, I think, becoz it did not present a gud view of the eaves.

I had mentioned we might try to blend a view of some left side and right side glances within this vid.

As anon was looking for a best view of the candyfloss kiosk am not sure if this is the best view of the banner. Shall we try to include this vid in the eaves/banner diagram collection? Could its ‘taken on’ date could bump the other 15DEC vid sooner?

>>15967174

So far, in sum, Candyfloss Kiosk showed 3rd bulb was unlit at times in late NOV and early DEC 2013, but was lit during days just before and on 15-DEC-2013. And as for later, we don't yet know.

Kinda matches up with XM's lights? Contradictions in evidence?

>>15971899

That's a grey bear with a white face and a black nose. Bear has white on the bottom of its feet and white inside the ears. That woman is Asian. I'm still grinning.

>>15964958

To my eye, banner sign bulbs were fully lit in Q pic.

Shape of sign, aspects which give its appearande as a cloth or scroll-type 'banner', creare impression thst the edges were 'rolled'.

This is the desired effect and unlit bulbs can defeat that illusion. Can be moar likely noticed because somewhat jolting even to nonautistic passerby. Additional incentive to maintain. So, yes, that makes this banner sign a gud target for hunting changes - failed or failing bulbs and replacements - and sequencing sauces against Q pic.

And we are biased, unavoidably, toward seeing useful markers.

Remember this dig's past succes came from some random observs that withstood intense scrutiny. Always, sceptism advised as the counter balance to magic eye.

Moar evidence for failed bulbs on banner at THAT side? Before and after the best example of unlit spot? This is a tall order. Banner's bulbs are packed closely.

Garry's hi-res close and unobstructed shots very gud as templste. And not so much for template for night shots like Q pic. Need daylight pics, night pics, twilight pics (which may prove best) for our comparisons.

Back to happy hunting.

>>15971928

>That woman is Asian.

Kek. Howzabout, of Persian descent? A la LP …

Looking closely at the Q pic of boots on the ground, and having thots of 'foot soldiers' come to mind, my magic eye did wander to discern that the lady does wear a dark scarf about the backtop of her asian/persian/dainty noggin.

And the oversized bag seemed an odd thing to LUG to pickpocket paradise. Tower Plaza was top draw, despite surveillance. Eyes looking upward "like a lot", to say it like DJT.

>>15972122

Does not look like LP to me, still looks Asian

>>15972179

Maybe you meant, from Chi-na, or Hong Kong? What are shovels for?

Re the other non-London London pics.

>>15972179

Have you dug into Fang's whereabouts winter 2013/2014? Or S?

Breads ago, dug The Cardinal's known whereabouts. Not London during the London pics interval. Coulda ben there 'unknown', possibility but no evidence to support plausibility. Yet?

>>15972273

Been trying to come up with locations on Swalwell for 2013/2014, nothing good so far

>>15973244

If there was one inoperative light socket on the banner for 2013/2014 then the 15DEC banner diagram would represent what the banner would look look after each bulb replacement effort.

I can almost see two left side banner lights unlit in the Q pic. Speculation follows: Perhaps Q pic is after the 19DEC vidcap showing only one left side banner light being unlit.

>>15973482

Unfortunately, the Q pic could still easily precede the 15DEC vid as well, if they had just replaced the unlit banner bulbs from the Q configuration.

>>15973244

>at least ONE inoperative, non-functioning, broken light socket that year on the lower part of the banner beneath the letter S of XMAS GRILL

Yes, fren, that was captured in sauced pic because it stuck out like a missing tooth in a Benny Hill smile. Not so much in Q pic.

Same for lefthand side.

As with the ticket kiosk of Red Bus dig, there isn't enough shown to be sure. But process of elimination helps narrow the possibilities.

>Q pic could still easily precede the 15DEC vid as well

15-DEC-2013-T is like the lone riverwall adboard pic sauced 22-DEC-2013-T.

It serve as an essential stake in the ground due to fair match re eaves. Kiosk lighting lends a helping hand coz in same sauced vid. Banner holds same potential.

Am looking atnother areas in Q pic. That transparent highlight under the tower's eaves, with the lit bulb, has drawn my attention despite paucity of gud direct sauced images. Puzzling sight not apparent on the other corners of either of the two wooden towers. There were 8 cornersbto compare.

Best spec I conjured is that an improvised curtain of some type was hung there as shield against blowing rain, earlier that day. Some resenblance to plastic sheet, for example. Saw clear plastic 'draped' to protect plush toys nearby.

>>15973244

>Anons can do as they wish.

Of course.

To be fair, the use of the charts might also communicate uncertainties in team's dig.

Example >>15904961

Recall Q 1460

https://qanon.pub/index2.html#1460

Q 1461

https://qanon.pub/index2.html#1461

Like you may be on this, I've been certain of my notions re other Q posts, including London pics. Mine is a hard head. At times impermeable, too. Humbled by harder evidence; humbled by insipid evidence that seeps in or, during least expected times, gushes in like a Japanese tsunami.

Hoping for a decisive find re banner. Ready to help, too.

>>15974979

In the pic you wrote, wrong. What's wrong? The arrows pointing to gaps unoccupied or the black circles over unlit bulbs?

There are both gaps and unlit bulbs in those pics, yes?

Sequencing the available images is important, natch, but that does not place the Q pic in that sequence, yet.

Suppose the banner was fully lit in Q pic. Must it have been taken before, say, 19-DEC-2013 and not later? The season ran to early JAN and the dig has only just begun for evidence. We have the 2nd half of the season to go yet.

>>15975187

>What's wrong? The arrows pointing to gaps unoccupied or the black circles over unlit bulbs?

You placed black circles over bulbs that, although they may not appear as bright as the rest, are no where near in appearance as the unlit bulbs in the same pics.

>>15975187

>Suppose the banner was fully lit >in Q pic. Must it have been taken >before, say, 19-DEC-2013 and >not later?

A fully lit banner on 15DEC begs the question why the prior banners all have the bottom left light always unlit. They keep replacing it? Got lucky that one time? I can only make assertions based on the samples we have gathered so far. Am not going to say the Q pic could not have been taken later than 19DEC. Would love to see it around Christmas. But with the samples I see before me…saying what I see. And I also expect to see unlit bulbs on the bottom left of future banner discoveries. Imho, the moar bulb replacements you put into your hypothetical timeline the moar you kill the hypothesis of dating the Q pic.

>The season ran to early JAN and the dig has only just begun for evidence.

Q either hinted or made a Freudian slip when they asked: What event occurs in Hyde Park “IN DECEMBER”.

>>15975187

>Suppose the banner was fully lit in Q pic

Then I’ll say congratulations, you’ve found the day the Q pic was taken- the day they fixed all the burned out lights on the banner and the eaves. What day was that?

>>15974429

>Hoping for a decisive find re banner.

I’m still in this dig with you. Carry on.

>>15975187

>Sequencing the available images is important, natch, but that does not place the Q pic in that sequence, yet.

Alright then.

I would cross off 15DEC2013 from the list of possible dates for WW from the amount of late evening precipitation seen this vid from Psyclone Steve. He specifically states the date in comment section of his YT vid. Umbrellas are def out. A gentle rain can be seen on very wet ice at the ice skating park. The ground was wet in the final scene of the vid as the videographer takes one look back at WW park.

>>15991608

View of corner of tower in psclonesteve indicates the Q camera was closer to the plane of the side of tower. Looks like Q camera and psyclonesteve's captured two corners/sides of same tower. No brellas in either view. Even if the weather was damp at times in psyclonesteve's vid, rain faded enough that some views showed neither rain nor brellas. On other hand, in Q pic some views of ground may have been damp. Bu haven't spotted clear and certain evidence of rain/dampness inside frames of the two WW Q pics. Mostly dry but London in winter, so …? For purpose of dating, matching markers in Q pic is the key. So no brellas is a useful marker coz none apparent in WW pics dropped by Q. Reminded me of POTUS leaving brella on stairs when he boarded Airforce One

Helpful Tip from General Research for You Tube Videos

How to frame by frame YT videos:

hit play arrow then use keyboard

k key to stop, comma to move backwards, period go forwards frame by frame

Anons

I went to the Alamy site itself to see what they had for photos of WW in 2013. Celebrity-types around but nothing really useful. All I came away with is VIP night was 21 November 2013 so the vids where the group thanks them for the VIP wristbands applies to that day.

>>15967698

If you look at the taken on 5DEC German pic, observe how the green garland is attached to the roof lights that have detached from the corner roof ridge.

Then look at the pic posted 11DEC. No shadow from the garland is seen along that roof ridge. It may be that there is no light bar at all, with the garland on that ridge in that pic.

>>16007914

Okay, fixed. km/h

5DEC Very windy 48 km/h

23DEC Very windy 48 km/h

>>16008719

27DEC2013 vid showing candy floss stand lights.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RzuyBPg2F80

>>15967174

The top ridge lights are LIT in the 30NOV vid but apoear NOT LIT in subsequent vidcaps, to include 4DEC, 11DEC, 15DEC and 27DEC. May not help dating for Q pic but poss may help date some vidcap, if one is to be found showing a LIT top ridge after 30NOV.

>>15989178

Yes, odds are against that date being Q matched weatherwise. Heavy rains fell, strong winds blew, ground showed soaked in-between as well as during bouts of catz n digz.

15-DEC-2013-T pictorial evidence eliminates that date. This sauce remains useful for sequencing other sauces re markers like kiosk, banner, Xmas Grille eaves. Also for elevated views of Plaza which compared well with vantages on WM and Power Tower. Excellent sauce in general for WW before, during, after 2013/2014 season.

>>16008902

^^^^^

>>16015451

Unfortunately this 2013/2014 vid was posted MAR 2014. Includes gud views of Plaza. Daylight. Looked like quieter day or time of day compared with Q Pic which itself didn't look very busy or crowded for WW.

https://youtu.be/IlqcAus70Vg

3-JAN-2014-P

Vid captured 2 unlit or missing bulbs on Candy Floss kiosk, one on each front ridge as per vantage of Q camera in WW pic 2013/2014 season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE3fFS9WaJg

>>16016809

Just a caveat that in the comments of Psyclone S’s main park vid taken on 15DEC he makes mention that he will post his on-ride vids later. “All on-ride footage to follow.”

vvvvvvvvvvv

>>15993602

>>15993602

Not saying he could not have crept back to WW with his fam to go on some rides missed first time. But almost all if PS’s on-ride vids say taken on 15DEC.

I haven’t gone to look at clothing worn in original vid on 15DEC yet.

>>16020990

Gud points. He did at least one recording in which he and another guy took turns recording and being recoded - and fam not in scenes.

16-DEC-2013-T included family. Still, possible that vids posted later included a mix of scenes from different Taken Dates, such as what may have been taken on 15th. At least some on-ride vids were just Psy and Buddy.

>>16020990

When I was lookng over Metacrawler there were a few vids by Psyclone Steve on-ride. Still looks like all taken 15 Dec 2013

>>16021471

Typo correction'

15-DEC-2013-T.

Clarification: Discussion weighed recording of on-ride vids on same date as the vid which has Date Taken. Weighed against Date Posted of on-ride vid, 2-JAN-2013-P.

>>16025788

Posted Date = auto entered at time published on YT.

Note in titles, descriptions, comments can be entered in error AND can be edited.

POSTED different.

Manipulations of posted dates not available to typical user, but atypical user/s? IDK.

>>16025788

> may recommend looking up 2015?

Target = mismatch of POSTED v TAKEN.

Target = mismatch of CONTENT and assigned YEAR.

Ex1

Posted 2013/2014 season v editable Taken Date such as 2015/2016.

Ex2

Posted 2015/2016 season v editable Taken Date such as 2013/2014.

Ex3

Posted 2015/2016 v CONTENT of 2013/2014 season.

Ex4

Date Taken 2013/2014 v CONTENT of 2015/2016.

Other variations possible. Very big dig if persued. Where best to focus?

Let's review text of Q posts that include ref to distinguishing time guide v Timeframe or timeline, so on. Then add contrast "lighting" from two year delta.

2013 v 2015 = delta

Fren your observ could be grand chase of goose that is wild … Or mous that is wilde … Or a brilliant leap onto yuge target.

Excellent kerplunking. Shall we divide labour so as to get rapid test of this concept and to minimise risk of long steep slide?

>>16026095

https://www.youtube.com/user/LookGoodOnHoliday/search?query=2013

>>16026859

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjBM4Y-Jjn8

>>16026859

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcjL9l7tck

Repeat at diff link. Unlike Plaza scene of 2013/2014, Power Tower scene may be 2015, on first look.

>>16026771

>Fren your observ could be grand chase of goose that is wild … Or mous that is wilde … Or a brilliant leap onto yuge target.

It was not without that VERY controversial line by Q in mind:

“2015/2016 related”. (A wild idea that there could be a 2015 WW park-goer vid with LP & PS.)

>>16026771

>Shall we divide labour so as to get rapid test of this concept and to minimise risk of long steep slide?

What do you propose? Any ideas? (One caveat would be if my search engine is not as gud as other anons.) I realize the potential for huge (time) slide. In any case, something to be mindful of checking.

>>16026363

>Still looks like all taken 15 Dec 2013

So I thought, with one exception being the multiple “coasters” vid. Was too tired to go back and look.

>>16026859

>https://www.youtube.com/user/LookGoodOnHoliday/search?query=2013

If I understand you correctly about the ‘posted’ date being an auto-generated timestamp thing, then I think we have proof the vids are really from 22NOV2013 due to the fact our poster submitted two identical vids: one posted 22NOV2013, the other posted the next day along with 2 other different vids. It’s not with absolute certainty but the two identical vids were posted diff dates leads one to believe he posted one of three vids on 22NOV. Then on 23NOV he posted all three vids. Again, I think all 3 vids were taken on the same night.

>>16027277

on busy night

>>16027277

At first glance it appears so, but is that mama bear, or gran bear with a blue head covering right behind the girl?

>>16027231

Please check for errors and typos in following recap.

>poster submitted two identical vids: one posted 22NOV2013, the other posted the next day […] I think all 3 vids were taken on the same night.

Opening night = 22nd

= Date Taken regardless of Date Posted as per auto timestamp and despite year in title.

This cap/vid of Plaza esp kiosk bulbs is now firmly dated 22-DEC-2013-T, earliest night shot found so far.

Clarifies 5 bulb positions on front right ridge. Same on rear.

Clarifies 5 before reduced to 4 positions.

Clarifies 3rd front position unlit while all rear 5 lit.

Q pic showed same.

For emphasis, "showed" 5 lit in rear.

For empasis, "showed" lit 3rd from eaves position in front.

Q pic did not capture all bulb positions on front right ridge. Coulda been 4 and coulda been 3. But showed part of lit bulb at 3rd position.

See >>15991203,

Process of elimination. Looks like the NOV sauces are not Q matched re unlit #3. Looks like early DEC not Q matched re unlit #3.

See >>16006598, >>16008902

15-DEC-2013-T possible Q match re #3.

Maybe not re heavy rainfall that day and part of night.

See >>15991608, >>15995918, >>16007914, >>16014027

By time kiosk bulbs had been captured 27-DEC-2013-P, possible Q matches re #3.

See >>16015161.

By time scene captured in 3-JAN-2013-P, also possible Q matches re #3.

See>>16016417, >>16016505, >>16016524

>>16027377

Ah, yes, adult supervision, on mobile phone, waiting in area common for meet-ups AND for watching friends riding Power Tower.

>>16027541

>Please check for errors and typos in following recap.

>This cap/vid of Plaza esp kiosk bulbs is now firmly dated 22-DEC-2013-T, earliest night shot found so far.

CORRECTION:

S/B 22-NOV-2013-T

>>16027541

>By time scene captured in 3-JAN-2013-P, also possible Q matches re #3

I think you meant to say:

3-JAN-2014-P ?

Those are the only typos I think there are.

Do you think it’s premature to consider a bar graph of our 3 separate markers for date matches/overlaps?

XMAS GRILL (Eaves),

XMAS GRILL (Banner),

Candy Floss Cart

Or maybe a calendar with different colors (red/yellow/blue) for potential matches. Would be looking for all three to match a date.

Use your understanding of the banner light matches. It doesn’t matter if we disagree on some things. Graphs and visuals always seem to help to see which direction the compass is pointing.

Am not capable of doing that graph but I think we have to try to use those partial markers we have been given, where we only have a banner, or we only have the eaves or the ridge lights and try to put them together. Maybe a graph of overlapping matches.

>>16027829

>Maybe a graph of overlapping matches.

Or maybe its opposite? If we can’t graph for matches, then perhaps we can graph for mismatches. If all you got is nothin, then we can map where we got nothin. And somethin’s gonna be in between.

Could we then overlay our a)mismatch graph over our b)matching graph?

>>16027760

>S/B 22-NOV-2013-T

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>3-JAN-2014-P

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Tanks, anon.

>>16027944

Yes, that is good idea. Illustrste/ track process of elimination. Also can show uncertainties which, as evidence is gathered, may become less uncertain.

Basic goal is to weigh what we have, ie what we know we know, on the whole, including the holes, ie what we know we do not know, because we likely have more than we know.

>>16016417

>Can't see an object blocking line of sight.

I have no doubt that is the polar bear statue blocking the light. As the camera angle changed ever so slightly, the full set of lights appears.

>>16016505

>Two unlit positions lit moments later. Might interfere, droplets on camera lense? Haven't noticed smudges or droplets on different parts of camera frame. Intermittent?

“Moments later…” tells the story. It is the camera angle changing so that the polar bears are no longer blocking the light near the source.

It’s the polar bears for sure.

>>16032549

POLAR BEARS: “We blockin’ yer light, Anon?”

>>16026095 .

For emphasis: This vid provided best reverse on-the-ground view, so far, of the Plaza area in which the two Q pics depicted a WW scene on a night during 2013/2014 season.

Each vidcap from that (30 seconds) vid snippet is a keeper. An excellent find.

Starts at mark 5:43

Ends 6:13

Done in [30]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=clcjL9l7tck&list=PLGxV3FL278JbwF-LUix5DpJxsIsePws9n&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcjL9l7tck

>>16031844

Kek, habbenings live in UK Bread.

>>16035499

Of course, the selfie couple is only 1 and a half ground squares away from the sign tree to their left. So not near Bavarian place. Could be in front of one of the arch towers but again keeping the sign tree on their left.

>>16035499, >>16035653

^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^

Tippy Top, fren.

Gud guesstimates that are well-based.

>>16037698

The shadows. Woman's at tree sign, man's, handbag lady's? Faint? Length? Source of light? How can a shadow be "neutralized"? Camoflauged shadows.

https://www.askaprepper.com/camouflage-concealment-art-staying-hidden/

For many wild animals, staying invisible is the key to survival.

Prey animals don’t want to attract the attention of predators; predators want to be able to sneak up on their prey without being seen.

https://productpictips.com/16-tips-to-eliminate-shadows-in-product-photography/

Armies teach that camouflage and concealment are different, but related, skills. Concealment is making yourself harder to see; camouflage is changing something’s appearance so it’s harder to notice.

Camouflage doesn’t need to involve making whatever you’re camouflaging look like something else; as long as it doesn’t look like what it actually is that’s good enough.

The human eye is naturally drawn to anything that looks out of place. It’s also drawn to anything that looks familiar.

If you can keep yourself concealed you’re at much lower risk of being attacked; you control your contact with other people – because they don’t know you’re there.

https://stipsniper.com/2019/10/03/the-7-ss-of-camouflage/

No matter how good the camouflage, you can’t hide that big dark shape of a shadow.

Try to become familiar with all this info to help you stay hidden in the field. The suit alone won’t do it, it’s all about mastering the finer details, especially how you the sniper interact with the terrain. Learn to be part of it.

>>16037786

ILLINOIS?

>>16039088

Don’t be pulled by the yellow ‘x’ in the cap. I should not have put that x there. It only confuses. The couple are most likely where the RED and GREEN arrows intersect. And THAT ‘x’ marks the spot (roughly). It’s where 1) the woman snaps a pic, then they enter the same square and 2) the second Q pic is taken.

CAVEAT: I hope that anons can pick out the differences between the different orientations being discussed here: a) ground cover vs b) selfie couple orientation, vs c) our Q pics camera orientations. I find myself confusing them.

>>16035130

>Does this Q pic show view of Xmas Grill eaves?

So getting back to your original question, had to confirm direction of “dominos” the woman is standing on with all my previous discussion. But, it looks like XG could be somewhere over her shoulders. I think it is in that direction.

>>16041550

Well one possibility for absence of long shadow on our camera girl is that there is simply sufficient light near her to light the ground behind her. I almost think she had her back to the donut tower* so that the shop lights were lighting the ground where we should expect the same shadow as her friend.

*IIRC I believe one of the two towers served “chips n dips’ and the other served doughnuts. The one tower whose side we just catch a glance of in the WM pic is the chips tower.

>>16043655

👍

>>16043503

Seeing same thing?

In panorama, CAM is approx in place the GU & GAL stood for selfie. I think that held tickets for the camera and he took pic on stick. He prolly vid their ride/s too.

Maybe LP was at sign tree in both WW pics.

>>16043655

As I look at your overhead inset to the Q pic, there could be some adjusting. For reference, (left to right): ladies at sign tree, guy with teddy bear, girl taking pic. I am with you on surv cam location, but mebbe could refine our line of sight using that as our guide.

>>16043696

>Maybe LP was at sign tree in both WW pics.

That’s a new theory I never heard anyone mention. Girl in cable-knit or light sweater? Has her look.

>>16043670

CAM came very near the couple. So Q pic might be vidcap. Mobile. CAM had legs. Maybe one of individuals in other WW pic.

2 Q pics.

2 CAMs.

1 elevated.

1 on ground.

Plus CAMs carried by targets.

What if couple were NOT actual targets?

Props for pic-taking?

In both Q pics both Q cam AND couple's cans aimed toward potential subjects in background as well as each other?

Watching you watching him watching me?

Pic in pic.

>>16043696

>In panorama, CAM is approx in place the GU & GAL stood for selfie.

I kinda favor your orig theory of fsurv cam betw the towers. I envisage the girl, after taking her friend’s picture, approaching his position at the red X to pose for their selfie. Reason I see her approaching him is because he is already juggling his selfie-stick, teddy bear and a shopping bag between his knees to prevent it getting wet and dirty on the ground. His position works for the fsurv wide angle shot as well. It keeps the sign tree on the right of the selfie couple.

>>16043784

>What if couple were NOT actual targets?

>Props for pic-taking?

>In both Q pics both Q cam AND couple's cans aimed toward potential subjects in background as well as each other?

Yup. Have always kept those two ladies in the running. We in UK bred never presuppose our targets are perfectly framed. After all, Q has come right out and said this. Swiped or stolen can be from passers-by or in the vicinity. Can be used in desperation if trying to get an idea where the target is but there would be no guarantee of good shots or any at all if persons nearby didn’t have their phones out.

>>16043807

Panorama sauce's cam had legs, natch, which stood about the same spot where GUY & GAL stood during the WW pic that was taken by Q cam betwixt towers, slightly back toward rear side of Doughnut tower. IOW the panorama captured approx the view the couple had as they stood in same place.

Easy to imagine their view, unobstructed, of sign tree area. AND the queing area in front of Chip tower, as per the Q pic featuring Wilde Mous.

>>16043784

>What if couple were NOT actual targets?

>Props for pic-taking?

>In both Q pics both Q cam AND couple's cans aimed toward potential subjects in background as well as each other?

Yup. Have always kept those two ladies in the running. We in UK bred never presuppose our targets are perfectly framed. After all, Q has come right out and said this. Swiped or stolen can be from passers-by or in the vicinity. Can be used in desperation if trying to get an idea where the target is but there would be no guarantee of good shots or any at all if persons nearby didn’t have their phones out.

Having viewed many open sources, get sickening feeling that WW has served as hunting grounds of human traffickers. A diff theme for theme park. Predators and prey. Cams catalogue. Crime scene/s.

Progress being made on this dig. Few moar vids in pipe.

>>16043879

>Panorama sauce's cam had legs, natch, which stood about the same spot where GUY & GAL stood during the WW pic that was taken by Q cam betwixt towers, slightly back toward rear side of Doughnut tower.

See >>16039088

I envision two diff angles. First, GREEN ARROW(fsurv) is to the right of where the girl is pointing her cam. Second, RED ARROW, is from between the towers where you said.

>>16043956

Well, my green arrow prolly should start from the side of the doughnut tower as you placed it. Makes sense to be around there. Then maybe sneak around back of tower and snap next pic from betw the towers.

>>16043784

>Watching you watching him watching me?

Here’s fun thought. What if asian girls were faking a selfie to photograph the couple’s selfie. An asian intelligence surv. I gotta admit something has always bugged me about that fsurv wide angle and here’s why: How come this camera was still able to get a nice shot of those same 4 people just over the heads of those asian girls? I don’t care what can be said that asian women might be short. Although I can’t tell if any of the asian girls might be ‘pretend’ posing for a selfie, it’s just a weird shot to take over the heads of people. Idk.

>>16043928

Best News I've gotten all week! Much Thanks!

I have a start on buns for this bread, but get lost or called away every time I go to sort things.

WW Bulbs Bun

>>15955493 Checklist template for use by anons' documentation of the bulb positions on the XMASS GRILLE stall in righthand side of Q pic of WW

>>15964214 Charts for comparison: 24NOV2013T, 25NOV2013P, 19DEC2013T (Vlogger), Q1456, 15DEC2013T, 17DEC2013T (Kalpachek)

>>15964716, >>159664746, >>15964784 Summary to-date in dig

>>15964862, >>159644891 Q1456

WW Bun

>>15959121, >>15959378 Pic Comparison Q1456 with Q1721

>>15961893 Revisiting pics from UK #43

Embankment Bun

>>15961747 Pics from UK #43

Not really much

>>16044211 (me)

Let's get rid of the extra digits and try that again

WW Bulbs Bun

>>15955493 Checklist template for use by anons' documentation of the bulb positions on the XMASS GRILLE stall in righthand side of Q pic of WW

>>15964214 Charts for comparison: 24NOV2013T, 25NOV2013P, 19DEC2013T (Vlogger), Q1456, 15DEC2013T, 17DEC2013T (Kalpachek)

>>15964716, >>15964746, >>15964784 Summary to-date in dig

>>15964862, >>15964891 Q1456

Found what I think is an actual Christmas Day, 25DEC2013 short vid. It is posted Christmas Day, so far a very rare day to be posting don’t you think? Am getting frerlz this was actually Christmas and the poster wanted to send this short vid out to her fam. The vid only had 8 views when I first saw it.

Has some never before seen, on the ground, reverse views looking back at sign tree and arch towers.

On that right hip roof ridge, I see only one light near the eaves. See for yourselves at 01:00 min. It’s daylight but decorative lights are lit. Can’t see the third light lit. Could be it’s the last 10 days of WW and moar lights have burned out. Take a look.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xe9y0L1FCh0

>>16051920

>frerlz

= feelz

Kek. Mebbe it’s the Alpine Bar vibes. “Frerlz”

>>15961175

Ask Durham. He'll know.

Posted 30 Dec 2013 (22 seconds), originator marks it as Christmas Eve, notice the clear black sky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66nQLVsF3t8

Exhibits and Evidence at World War II War Crimes Trials, compiled 1945 - 1947. COMPILATION FILM REPORT: On conditions found in Nazi concentration camps in Germany and Belgium by advancing Allied Armies during World War II.

NAZI SPIES AND MURDERERS ARE EXECUTED BY U.S.

Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) activities that had previously been covert, including actions in Iran, Vietnam, Laos, the Congo, Cuba, and Guatemala.

>>16058569

Sorry, sunset on 24DEC2013 was about 3:55pm. Some 42minutes after the Tower Plaza sequence.

>>16058569

>Can you say why you think they were there in the morning, Anon?

10AM Opening. Looked like meal for some before dark. Dusk before next meal time (indoors looked like). Dark later maybe 2-3 hrs on, toward night, if not as late as closing.

But this included assumptions about people in scenes. Such as maybe more showing up after rainy skies cleared. So, yeh could have spent much less time, just an afternoon and early evening on Christmas Eve day - or previous day. Not so many followed Christian trads in UK as did even couple decades prior to that recording. Crowded park, looked like.

>>16058810

In some sauces there are dim bulb positions on this kiosk. This effect could have been due to failing bulbs or other malfunctions. Could have been dead bulbs or unpowered arrays; the bulb might have reflected others sources of light.

In Q pic, the unlit sign tree threw its own reflections, too. Brightly painted and shiny surfaces through out the park have been captured doing this, natch. Happened in a few sauces that showed the sign tree and front ridge of this kiosk. So that effect was in the mix for matchups.

That aside, it seems Q pic might have captured 3 bulb positions on right front ridge. One on or close to central ridge? One at #3, mid-array, and one more at #1 position, on corner of eaves. I note these positions after re-viewing the open sauced pics am posting again.

Cont …

>>16058913

>One on or close to central ridge?

This could have been the topmost bulb position in the rear lett array. Likely was.

>one more at #1 position, on corner of eaves

This could have a bit too low for the lowest position in array on front right ridge. However, that arrays appeared to have moved, at least thrice, as captured in open sauces. This could account for an unusual appearance in Q pic. Then again, what is seen may well have been a reflection off tree sign.

So in my view, these two uncertain positions are neutral to reckoning Q match.

>>16058928

Such things might have been used to enclose the products against inclement weather. Dunno if stock would be removed after closing each day, but the sheet might have been used to "close shop".

In the case of that kiosk, in that plaza, the plastic draping might have been left unfurled during business hours to direct purchasers toward other 3 sides, idk. Do think weather protection is better explanation.

Yeh, potential marker.

In Q pic that plastic drape was captured on left side of kiosk, as you may know. Its effect visually resembled effect at tower's edge under awning.

>>16058977

I have never seen the stand operators for that stand. Do they situate themselves in the middle somehow? You are right about ‘closing shop’ with it. But if it was me, and there was a constant breeze from the North, I’d be leaving the drapes on that side up.