No.13321 [Last50 Posts]
Edit: Check the rules here: >>13324 or on the announcements at the top of the board.
Hi. I'm the new board owner of /miku/.
I was the volunteer for this board (Tetomod), but I claimed the board because the board owner became inactive for two weeks.
This thread is for any questions that you might have.
This thread is also for submitting custom board assets, which I will post the requirements of each.
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No.13322
All files must be either in .png or .gif format, and also must be less than 500 kb.
Spoiler file must be 128 x 128.
"File deleted" file must be 140 x 50.
"No file" file must be 500 x 500. (but new threads without images is currently disabled)
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No.13324
Edit: Since the board pages 404 at times, I've decided to copy the rules to this post:
1. All threads must be related to Vocaloid and its community. Similar topics like UTAU and CeVIO are also allowed.
2. No spamming, spambots or flooding.
3. Do not post with the intention of disrupting or derailing a thread (e.g. trolling, baiting, flaming, etc.)
Remember to spoiler all NSFW content and to check the catalog before creating a new thread.
Ignore posts/threads that you don't like, and report those that break the rules.
If any of the board pages is unavailable, please do notify me by leaving a post in this thread.
Original post:
I'll also add the other banners too. I'll be back in a minute.
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No.13325
Added more banners. There's a total of 16 now.
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No.13326
>>13325
Thanks
Is the other stickied thread about banners now redundant?
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No.13328
>>13326
You're welcome.
No, I'll leave it stickied in case I missed a banner or someone else wants to upload another one.
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No.13329
>>13328
Oh, so banners are separate from board assets.
Alrighty
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No.13330
>>13329
You can consider banners as part of the board assets, but unlike banners the custom spoilers and file deleted images are only going to be replaced once.
I added a link to this thread in the banners sticky.
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No.13362
Made a Miku spoiler file in both apng and gif formats.
Other candidates for the spoiler file are still welcome.
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No.13387
File: 1433378657274.png (Spoiler Image,643.56 KB,1000x1234,500:617,1326521624512.png)
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No.13403
>>13399
It's great, but I think it needs "No file." text in it.
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No.13404
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No.13407
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No.13412
The text was a bit hard to read, so I tried making a version with bigger text.
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No.13413
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No.13414
>>13413
Thanks for your "no file" image.
Only the "File Deleted" image is missing. There's second pic related, but /a/ already uses it. It'd be nice if we had our own version of it (maybe with a different Vocaloid, or a different Miku pic),
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No.13416
>>13414
Yeah
I was looking for something to use but wanted to try and find someone other than Miku just to try and get some variety.
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No.13421
>>13416
I tried to find other images like that, but didn't have much luck. I guess we should wait for other anons and ask them if they happen to have something similar to that.
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No.13424
>>13421
I was just messing around and came up with this. We can wait to see what else the others have in mind though.
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No.13425
>>13424
Oh, I like this one!
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No.13426
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No.13445
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No.13459
Thank you Tetomod/New Board Owner for taking care of us. I love the additional board assets and the new banners too.
On a side note, I seem to be getting the "Don't sexualise the Miku" one a lot, which I think is just aimed at me anyway.
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No.13468
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No.13520
Made a new sticky for Volunteers:
>>13501
Custom board assets submissions will also end after Miku Monday. If no more assets are posted by then, the current ones will stay.
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No.13619
>>13321
So you own two boards that sounds tasking man, did you ever find out what happened to the old owner.
P.S awesome CCS thingy this board has
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No.13636
>>13619
>So you own two boards that sounds tasking man, did you ever find out what happened to the old owner.
I co-own the other board with another anon, It's still a smaller board than this one, so I don't think I'll have any problems yet.
No idea. The old owner didn't post very often. I don't have a way of contacting him either.
>P.S awesome CCS thingy this board has
That was a different anon's work. It's great.
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No.13645
The Upstairs thread just hit the reply limit.
Does someone want to make the new thread?
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No.13646
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No.13679
Any chance of the rule changes made by the previous owner being rolled back?
see
>>7174
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No.13682
>>13679
Yes. Give me a minute, and I'll explain.
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No.13684
I'm actually planning on making a discussion about /miku/'s board settings, rules and cooperation with other boards next week.
Things maybe be changed, added, or removed democratically.
The requirement to vote is the same as the volunteer applications: you must have made at least one post on June 1st or before. However, everyone will be able to express any opinions or concerns even if they're new to /miku/.
I'll specify the date after the volunteer application ends (it will probably be Friday-Tuesday too).
>>13679
>>13682
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No.13686
>>13684
Democracy sucks. At the time the absentee board owner showed up and made those rules, there was no problem on the board prompting their creation. Why not just remove them and not have any further drama about the rules?
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No.13688
>>13686
If I understand correctly, your issue with the imposed rules weren't the rules themselves, but the fact that they were added spontaneously for no reason. To impose them was bad enough, but just removing them is just as bad.
To be honest, I don't like the rules either, and I'll probably propose a simpler set of rules and getting rid of the current rules altogether. I still want to hear the opinions of other anons though, that's why I'm doing it this way.
I also want to discuss board settings (like the bump limit, board flags, whether to keep oekaki or not, etc.), so I still need to hear opinions before I change anything.
Please, consider this a chance to make /miku/ a better board.
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No.13691
I also want to add that no rules are enforced at the moment. I'll only delete off-topic threads and spam. It will stay this way until the final rules are decided.
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No.13692
Forgot my capcode.
>>13688
>>13691
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No.13693
>>13688
Since I won't post here under the current rules and this quorum will be weeks from now I'm overwhelmingly likely to forget about it. I don't think that removing arbitrary rules is "just as bad" as imposing them. Furthermore, discussions and votes that provide the opportunity of imposing rules just attract control freaks.
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No.13694
>>13693
>I won't post here under the current rules
As I said, no rules are being enforced for now. Any thread that is Vocaloid related (even if it is porn dump, loli, shota, etc.) won't be deleted, and I won't ban anyone for making it even if the current rules stay (they probably won't though).
It will be just 6 days from now. If you don't want to participate, then that's your loss. The only people who were 100% okay with the current rules (the old board owner and the "quality rule" poster) haven't made a single post in almost two months.
If even though you are given this opportunity you decide to leave /miku/, then I have nothing else to say.
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No.13698
https://8ch.net/miku/rules.html
Added a note on the rules page.
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No.13704
Since /miku/ isn't that fast of a board, the discussion will also be 4 days long. It will start Friday 12th and end when Miku Monday (June 15th) ends.
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No.13819
Updated the spoiler image. Miku doesn't swing her leek too fast anymore.
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No.14009
Changed the thread's subject to "Meta thread".
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No.14258
>>13698
>no rule that says you have to keep the flame alight.
Good thing I'm here to teach all you kohais about fighting spirit.
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No.15315
Hi /miku/ owner :3
/hover/ here.
I found some css stuff I saved from the old mikuchan (see archives for it here ; http://archive.mikuchan.org/miku/)
and thought you might be interested.
Pic related (its a banner from the old mikuchan)
I'm looking to add links to other friendly stylish boards and thought about adding a link to /miku/, would you be okay with that? You don't have to do anything. I just like to see what other boards I'd like to have relations with. Just let me know what you think :3
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No.15326
>>15315
Thanks for the banner. I can't find the css info, but the archives might help me in some way.
>I'm looking to add links to other friendly stylish boards and thought about adding a link to /miku/, would you be okay with that?
I'll ask the other anons if they're okay with it.
Thank you for visiting our board.
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No.15333
>>15315
We're fine with you linking to our board. Thanks a lot.
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No.15334
Here are the pages I saved (all the css info is in there except for the background images) ;
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n1t9938rx7fi3tv/Mikuchan-Pages.zip?dl=0
I hope that helps :3
I couldn't find the background images but maybe someone else has them..
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No.15335
>>15334
Thanks! I'll test them later.
While I don't know much about Mikuchan, we do have some users that frequented it, and we're interested in finding more of them.
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No.15345
>>15334
Salty because people might change my design without really thinking about it. (Just like the former board owner ruined the design when they changed the post colour without considering the colour composition and scheme.)
That said, I have some issues with the mikuchan designs and I urge people to think about changing the design. Too saturated colours and lack of composition being most blatant.
>>15343
The CSS isn't made for the infinity template of imageboards. More precise: it is lacking identification tags which prevents the CSS from being applied on the page.
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No.15346
>>15345
I made a comparison on the Upstairs thread. Don't worry, I don't plan to change it without asking for everyone's opinion.
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No.15347
>>15345
>(Just like the former board owner ruined the design when they changed the post colour without considering the colour composition and scheme.)
If you want to improve the current theme, you can post the CSS code here.
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No.15348
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cw0e6idk7dy9tuj/miku.css?dl=0
I put some comments in to make it easier for you if you'd like to make adjustments to the colors
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No.15349
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No.15350
>>15349
Restored. Is it alright if I trimmed out that huge Lain art at the end?
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No.15355
>>15348
I'll take a look at this too.
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No.15386
>>15350
That was the most important bit! (No of course not.)
Also realized I'm yet to make a desaturated and night variant, so I will do that today.
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No.15392
>>15386
>Also realized I'm yet to make a desaturated and night variant, so I will do that today.
I'd like to try it.
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No.15440
>>15350
Here they are. Working on something else as well, but that might take a while.
Desaturated: http://pastebin.com/d1SKjyK0
Dark: http://pastebin.com/DXDD0WZE
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No.15446
>>15440
They look nice, but the greentext quotes and "post edited" texts are a bit hard to read in the desatured theme.
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No.15452
>>15440
Made a minimal version of the /miku/ colour scheme, that is more fitting for an imageboard.
You can find it here: http://pastebin.com/1EKqywyn
>>15446
Add/change to
.quote {color: #75cfc5}
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No.15454
>>15452
I think this one looks good.
The current one is a little too much.
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No.15485
This board has the best custom css thingy,by the way im the miku fag who posts on /b/ sometimes.
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No.15493
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No.15495
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No.15558
>>15348
That one is easier to read
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No.15573
>>15558
I agree, this one is easier to read. Thank you for the edit.
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No.15585
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No.15735
div.pages {
color: #50586B; /*Might wanna lower the numbers for links and text to make it more readable*/
background: #B8D8D9; /*Changed color*/
border-right: 1px solid #2B8F9F;
border-bottom: 1px solid #2B8F9F;
}
Tiny fix for the bottom :3
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No.15792
>>15735
Added the fix. Thank you again.
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No.15863
I'll throw in some questions for the FAQ. It'd be nice if some could help me by answering some of them or asking more Vocaloid related questions:
>What is Vocaloid?
>Who are the 'Vocaloids'?
>How do I find Vocaloid songs?
>Where can I listen to the latest Vocaloid songs?
>Where can I get Vocaloid songs?
>What is MMD (MikuMikuDance)?
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No.15864
I think I'm also going to add a note to the FAQ that most of the things that apply to Vocaloid also applies to UTAU and CeVIO, but for UTAU specific questions they can visit >>>/utau/ and check their sticky.
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No.16182
Top 150 on an off-day, get hype.
Wiki has been done for a week or so. Been waiting for some submissions. Soon.
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No.16427
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No.16616
>>16427
Wiki is here:
http://mikurecommends.wikia.com
Recommendations are here:
http://mikurecommends.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Albums
Guide is here:
http://mikurecommends.wikia.com/wiki/Guide
Still waiting for a few submissions, but it's open for anyone and everyone in the meantime.
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No.16621
>>16616
Added to the board announcement.
Are UTAU albums allowed?
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No.16622
>>16621
Of course! To quote the frontpage: "Miku's recommendations is a wiki for recommending albums using voice synthesizer software"
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No.16623
>>16622
Perfect. I'll do mine in a bit.
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No.16624
>>16623
Speaking of which, I'd like to add you as a mod. I imagine I won't be available much, so it is smart to have somebody onboard who is more engaged with the board (the wiki is, after all, an extension of this board).
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No.16626
>>16624
Thanks! I need to register first, right?
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No.16627
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No.16628
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No.16630
>>16628
I believe you first have to make an edit before you are "registered" as a user on the wiki. (Not very intuitive, which is a theme sadly.)
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No.16631
>>16630
Okay, I'll do a contribution first.
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No.16637
>>16630
>>16631
Finished. Sorry it took so long. My PC is kinda slow right now.
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No.16639
>>16637
Just made you an admin. Have fun! (And don't go deleting pages I wouldn't.)
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No.16641
>>16639
Thank you.
>(And don't go deleting pages I wouldn't.)
Don't worry, I won't.
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No.16936
Just discovered this board
I fucking love this board's CSS
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No.16950
>>16936
Welcome! Don't forget to visit Miku Monday (on monday)! Also, if you have any recommendations checkout http://mikurecommends.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Albums
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No.17018
>>16936
Welcome. I hope you have fun on our board. Also this: >>16950
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No.19436
Is there any way to fix this issue with transparent images? When enlarged, it displays the proper background colour.
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No.19448
>>19436
Sadly no. A month ago png thumbnails were changed to jpg, so they don't support transparency anymore.
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No.20368
http://stats.4ch.net/8chan/displaytable.php?file=miku
For future reference. Might never know when it might be useful and I don't know how transparent the existence of this little thing is.
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No.21208
8ch Minecraft
Vanilla pvp server: tr.ipcod.es:25565
Modded server: tr.ipcod.es:25566
————————————–
Download MultiMC (It's open source), then you need to begin the install process.
Click Add Instance (Top left)
Change the version to 1.7.10 then click Import Modpack
Paste http://transfer.sh/kCXpy/tripcodes.zip
into the field, and click add. It will either start importing or do
nothing. If it does nothing, it's due to a current bug and you can just
download the zip file and click the three dots and browse to it and then
click add. Then launch it and connect to the server in multiplayer.
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No.21290
>>21208
That sounds interesting.
I don't have Minecraft, so I can't really try it out though.
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No.21302
>>21290
Its ok, I just realized the server is down so it doesn't work right now anyway ^^;;
I found some Miku skins for minecraft at some point and also modified the sounds so the character sounded like Miku, it was pretty sweet :3
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No.26585
There's a fix for the banner outage on >>>/operate/res/32927.html
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No.26748
>>26585
Thanks for the suggestion. I'll use the fix.
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No.27021
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No.35693
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No.35709
>>35693
Happy birthday /miku/.
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No.43219
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No.43243
>>43219
Nice!
Happy 2nd birthday 8chan
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No.43291
Happy birthday 8chan.
Get well soon!
🇱
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No.43330
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No.43335
>>43330
Looks fantastic. Thank you again /hover/.
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No.43339
You're welcome. I like how it turned out.
I felt like drawing /miku/ so I did :3
Spent most of the day on it but it was fun,
it could have looked better given more time but I guess there's always room for improvement..
Lets party with confetti, music and stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSMQnQCh7iM
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No.43342
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No.43450
We got noticed well enough that someone on /v/ decided to include our board names in their art
as graffiti (most likely because they didn't have time to draw the characters before the deadline)
>>6660560
>>40896
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No.43451
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No.43452
>>43450
>>43451
Yeah, I saw it. Pretty happy we got included in that one even as graffiti since it was the one with the most boards. It probably was yours what got us noticed by them.
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No.43453
>>43452
They might win and then everyone will see it :3
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No.43454
>>43453
I hope they do. It looks really cool.
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No.43469
Seems like it didn't.. But all the art is still up there and they're talking about making some sort of a gallery for displaying it.
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No.46217
>>13619
>did you ever find out what happened to the old owner
Rather than leave it as a 2spooky mystery(althought that does sound kind of fun) I'll give you the boring truth, I became ill and stopped having the time or energy to give a shit about modding an anime girl imageboard, I figured the teto mod guy would take it over, which is good since I don't have as much interest in the subject as I used to and also because I haven't visited this site in 6+ months, better to have a former mod be owner than to let spammers shit it up. I did see a miku monday /v/ thread which made me remember that this place still exists
>you want proof
>Ipod filters to lpod, or used to
>username to log in as board owner is/was a prime number
Hope you guys are having fun, and remember to stay hydrated :^)
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No.46218
>>46217
I hope you're alright now, former board owner.
Thanks for stopping by.
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No.46315
>>46217
It's been a while. It was very fun to have you with us.
I hope you're fine now. Thank you for all your work, and for letting me be a volunteer.
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No.46316
Also:
>Ipod filters to lpod, or used to
I didn't know that. That's pretty clever.
There were no wordfilters when I took over.
There was an unused Teto flag though.
>username to log in as board owner is/was a prime number
I can confirm this.
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No.53275
Infinity Next is going to launch soon
I need Volunteers to pay close attention to my PMs and Emails.
There'll be a phase 2 beta, and I'll need you to login into your accounts there when it happens.
DO NOT CHANGE YOUR USERNAME OR PASSWORD YET.
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No.53804
Hey, anon from /ebola/. Saw Josh tweet about how you guys have 23712 pics uploaded.
Unfortunately, due to the botched transfer, he won't be trying that again. So whenever the site move hits, everything is gone.
Thus… do you guys have any plan or way of preserving all this? I mean, I know many of you just have the pics saved, but I was wondering if there was anything else that could be done.
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No.53811
>>53804
Hello anon. I saw it too, and it's going to be a new banner.
As for saving things, see >>53799 .
My priority is saving what the transfer did not, such as the Youtube embeds. For images, we'll just have to hope that 8archived saved them.
If you want to archive threads yourself, try CTW:
https://github.com/SuperGouge/ChanThreadWatch/releases
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No.53814
>>53811
Thank you for the advice, BO. Best of luck to you guys in the new site.
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No.53816
>>53814
No problem. Good luck to you guys too.
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No.53829
CTW does have one downside: it won't save the board's CSS info. Infinity Next's CSS isn't compatible with the current 8ch CSS, so you'll have to open the saved threads in offline mode and it'll look like pic related (A thread I've saved from the 8ch bunker back in January).
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No.53854
>>53829
Thank you for the suggestion again. I downloaded all 26 pages from /ebola/, and now sit at 1.87 GB, which is now being uploaded to mega for… all of the 10 people who might be interested in it.
This has
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No.53862
>>53854
I'm happy to help. If we're lucky, 8archive will relaunch and you might recover some lost threads.
https://twitter.com/8archivemoe/status/677874024081457153
And of course, keep your backup in case it doesn't.
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No.53957
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No.55903
Anime girl image identifier tagging with neural networks using Miku as samples
>>>/tech/457184
https://github.com/rezoo/illustration2vec
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No.55916
>>55903
>Anime girl image identifier tagging with neural networks
This is very impressive.
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No.56054
>>53811
Were you able to save all 23k pics of Miku?
I have a lot of Miku pics but I ran into a folder cap at one point which was 16k images so I know I definitely don't have that many.
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No.56072
>>56054
>Were you able to save all 23k pics of Miku?
No, but I saved some of the recent threads in case they're not imported correctly.
If the board loses them, then we'll just remake them, and we'll post lots of pictures of Miku (and friends).
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No.56939
Here's my email in case anyone needs to contact me.
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No.67501
I'm curious about why IDs have never been enabled here. Do you just not like them or is there some other reason?
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No.67503
>>67501
I don't think we need them, and I would only enable it if most users are okay with it.
IDs are often enabled on very active boards where there is excessive trolling or samefagging.
/miku/ doesn't have such problems yet, and while Upstairs and MM might benefit from IDs, other threads might not, and some anons might prefer to stay anonymous as much as it is possible.
It depends on whether anons want it or not. Enabling flags again could be a better alternative to IDs, since anyone has the choice to use it (or not).
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No.67506
>>67503
Flags are cool, but don't have the benefits of IDs (actually identifying someone, filtering). And I wouldn't expect you to use them unless many people were okay with it obviously. I don't think they are needed on all types of boards, but for a place like this I would actually prefer them personally.
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No.67507
I'm going to ask a question to any anon is reading this:
If /miku/ had thread IDs, would you be okay with this?
This is just to know about everyone's opinion on IDs. If the idea of having IDs on /miku/ is popular, we may have actual voting on a separate thread later.
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No.67527
I don't really like the idea of IDs.
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No.67536
>>67503
>>67507
Flags are okay.
I'm against the idea of IDs though.
I would only consider them under extreme circumstances.
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No.67563
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No.67638
I'll go ahead and give my reasons for why I think they are fine. I would be interested in why people are against them too if you care to explain.
1. Anonymity hardly exists here. Most posting is done in the upstairs/MM threads which are 99% avatarfagging anyway. It's not like it is hard to guess who is posting what anyway with how few people there are here normally. Plus several of the daily posters can already see IDs if they really want to.
2. IDs are only unique to one thread. It doesn't identify you across the entire board. I don't see it being a big deal in news/song/etc. threads since nobody would know who actually posts things unless they say who they are, the ID would just track how many posts you have made. As for the main threads, again people give away their “identity” freely anyway so I don't see the harm.
3. Filtering. This isn't a common use but one that I think is important. It is much easier to “ignore posts you don't like” if you can just turn a filter on/off as you want. There have been times when I wished this were available and I think it is a nice option to have.
4. They aren't permanent and could be turned off. As another benefit, they can make keeping track of conversations easier. That isn't always relevant but a nice thing anyway, especially when there are many people posting like during busy MM times.
TL;DR: In my opinion things would barely change and IDs offer a few benefits that would be nice to have.
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No.67736
>>67507
I'm pro and most of my thoughts have been summarized above. The one thing I would like to add is that it can help resolve confusion, if it does arise.
If people don't want it for aesthetic/nostalgia reasons, I can code a bit of javascript that hides the IDs visually. Even if you only have passing knowledge of javascript you can easily do so.
>>67638
Filtering is practically useless in the Upstairs/MM threads, because the conversations are mostly single threaded. Filtering posts would be more efficient for your purposes at that.
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No.67742
>>67736
IDs can be hidden already in the "options" menu.
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No.68706
So when are we getting flags?
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No.68760
It's been a week now. From what I have seen we have 4 people fine with IDs and 3 people against them. That isn't everyone I know but any ideas on moving ahead with the issue?
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No.68810
I just now saw the question. I'm against IDs.
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No.69034
>>68706
About this too.
Were you even planning on doing them? And will we vote on those too if you do?
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No.69102
>>68706
>>69034
I can add them tomorrow, though only the 16x16 ones will be added for now, the rest will have to get resized,
>>68760
The thing is that there is less people that want IDs than the ones who don't (I should have worded the question better). It's also a more delicate issue than flags, since IDs will affect all threads, including old ones.
I'm still going to give anons the chance to decide whether /miku/ should have them or not. I'm going to write board announcement that links to this post. I'm only going to count posts made in this thread.
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No.69106
>>69102
I was asking about the flags because there may be people that don't want those too, and 8ch doesn't offer an option for hiding them in the general settings. They can be hidden easily by anyone by adding a CSS rule but some people may not know that.
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No.69107
>>69106
That's true. I'll let anyone vote for or against custom flags then.
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No.69122
I am neutral on the idea of IDs. To be honest I'm leaning more on the against side but it wouldn't bother me if they did get added at some point.
I don't know about flags since I'm not sure what they are. Like country flags or? I don't know what their purpose would be. To differentiate users?
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No.69123
My biggest issue with IDs is that there have been times when people have wanted to post anonymously because they had a problem, or an issue that they wanted to bring up but also remain anonymous about it.
If IDs are implemented and someone wants to post something anonymously then their options to do so are limited.
Also some posters have occasionally had fun posting anonymously with the emoji. While it isn't that important it's still something worth taking into consideration.
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No.69124
>>69123
I also forgot to mention that all the old posts getting an ID also makes it even less appealing.
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No.69163
>>69122
Flags are custom board assets that allow people to put a little icon next to their posting name if they want. They can be turned on/off or changed for each of your posts. This is an example from /v/. They can be whatever the board owner wants, so in our case it would be vocaloid themed stuff most likely. They don't really do anything, it's just another way to customize your board.
I don't see much point to them but don't care either way if they are added.
>>69124
What is the problem with that?
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No.69316
>>67507
Oh shit, I totally missed that post.
I'm mostly against ID's. It's nice to have that small bit of anonymity that we have right now. I wouldn't mind if they are implemented, but I don't think it is a good idea.
Flags on the other hand can be fun.
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No.69524
Is there a deadline for voting?
If we're waiting for everyone to vote, it might be worth reminding people tomorrow during MM.
To clarify, I'm pro-flags and anti-IDs.
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No.69623
>>69524
Yes, the deadline is when next week's Miku Monday ends. Hopefully, most would have read the board announcement by then, but I'll remind everyone during this and the next MMs.
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No.69633
>>69623
>next week's Miku Monday
>this and the next MMs
So is it next week, or the week after that?
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No.69638
>>69633
March 14th, so about a week from now.
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No.69639
>>69638
Thanks for the clarification.
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No.69732
I don't want IDs. I've posted anonymously multiple times despite being a regular and I want the freedom to do it again if I feel a need to.
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No.69887
FLAGS WHEN?!
They also might be a good compromise between IDs and tripfagging.
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No.69903
>>69163
Ah, these flags. I like them, so I'll vote for this.
And about the IDs: I'll vote against them because if I want to post some pics from the other vocaloids (like I did twice or so) anonymously, people would know who I am, which would take the "mystery" behind my posts.
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No.69905
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No.70208
I forgot to mention that although I'm against IDs I'm fine with flags.
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No.70210
>>69905 here. I'm against IDs but flags are fine with me.
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No.70385
I'm >>69122 to add my stance on flags. I'm neutral on flags as well. Leaning more on the For side since they sound like they could be fun but it won't be a tragedy for me if they don't get added since I haven't experienced or used them and therefore don't know what I would be missing out on.
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No.71385
Votes so far:
IDs:
Yes: (2)
>>67638
>>67736
No: (7)
>>67527
>>68810
>>69316
>>69524
>>69732
>>69903
>>70210
Flags:
Yes: (6)
>>69316
>>69524
>>69887
>>69903
>>70208
>>70210
No: (0)
(None)
Neutral votes aren't counted, but your opinions are always welcome.
If I'm missing your post or I've misinterpreted your vote, please point this out to me so I can correct this.
You still have time to vote until the end of this Monday (14th) .
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No.71613
>>71385
It doesn't matter much; at this point; but I'm dropping my support for IDs. On the anti side some people are genuinely concerned about it, which - in my opinion - renders the discussion moot. (Not to mention that I believe flags will be a great alternative anyway.)
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No.71627
There is really no point on waiting for the end of the day, it's clear based on the voting how things will go. Thanks for having the discussion/voting Teto.
If people ever want to turn the flags on/off they can put this bit of code into the "theme" section of the options menu:
/* remove flags */
img.flag {
display: none;
}
And save it for the effect to be applied. This just hides them, and you can add or delete it as you choose. You can also replace "img.flag" with "img.emoji" to hide emojis, which can make some old posts look pretty funny.
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No.71632
>>71613
Understood.
>>71627
Alright, I'll implement them now.
The vote is still going to be open until MM ends as I promised.
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No.71897
The voting is over. Thanks to everyone who participated.
Board flags are now enabled.
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No.72865
Would it be possible to get the bump limit increased?
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No.72873
>>72865
Yes. Do you want to raise it to a specific number?
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No.72884
>>72873
I wouldn't mind having it all the way at 750, but I guess it's more up to what you think would be reasonable. I'm just worried about non-upstairs threads that are still used often (Teto, song, etc.) getting buried under other threads after 300 posts.
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No.72887
>>72884
Okay. I changed it to 500. those threads should be able to be bumped again. If more anons want me to set the bump limit to the max I'll consider it.
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No.72888
>>72884
This could be a good idea. Can the bump limit be set differently for specific threads?
Enjoying flags quite a lot so far by the way. I was the neutral posts.
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No.72893
>>72888
>Can the bump limit be set differently for specific threads?
No. It's possible for volunteers to bumplock threads individually before they reach the bump limit, but that's about it.
>Enjoying flags quite a lot so far by the way. I was the neutral posts.
I'm glad you like them. You can suggest new ones in the banner thread.
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No.72894
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No.72895
>>72894
You're welcome. I should have done this before, but you're the first to suggest to change the bump limit.
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No.74189
I drew you another pic :3
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No.74195
>>74189
Very cute. Thanks!
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No.74907
Somebody asked me to repost the javascript code that automatically clicks the submit button if the post doesn't go through.
var origAlert = window.alert;
window.alert = function(m) {
if (!/The server took too long to submit your post/.test(m)) {
origAlert(m);
} else {
setTimeout(function() {
$('.submit > input').click();
}, 1000)
}
}
You can find the original thread here: https://8ch.net/tech/res/551785.html I did not make it. Please thank the original coder for it.
If you want to include truncated and similar errors, simply add an &&
Unrelated, but BO I shot you an email.
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No.79392
>>74195
And another one, this time with Teto in it :3
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No.79407
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No.83099
Are you still set on having a bump limit? It seems really pointless with how small the board is. Why not just let the users have full control over if they want their posts to bump a thread? (by using sage or not)
I know you said you would consider changing it again if more people said something, but there is basically zero meta discussion that goes on here. I don't want to be the only one bringing up board setting issues but nobody else ever says anything about them.
And is there a reason for the 3 file limit on posts? It is fine for most posting but there are times when it would be great to fit more into a post, like when uploading OC stories for example.
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No.83100
>>83099
It makes sense for the active threads to have high bump limits, but for other threads I think a lower bump limit is better, so new threads about that topic are made more often.
I'll remove the bump limit for now, and I'll ask for opinions about it later on the Upstairs thread when it's active.
>And is there a reason for the 3 file limit on posts?
The previous board owner set the file limit to 3 (see >>1277 ). You're right that this is too low for OC stories and also comic dumps, so I'll change the limit to 5 as well.
I often leave the board the way it is, unless others want me to change something about it, so thank you for posting your suggestions and opinions about the board here, and I hope that more people do it too.
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No.83101
>>83100
Thanks for the changes.
>for other threads I think a lower bump limit is better, so new threads about that topic are made more often.
Why would new threads even be needed if an older one is still being used and bumped, or is still under the post limit? You even have "check the catalog before creating a new thread" in the rules page, so doesn't that suggest you would rather not have unnecessary duplicate threads?
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No.83102
>>83101
You're welcome.
>Why would new threads even be needed if an older one is still being used and bumped
If a thread reached the older bump limit of 500, a user would have the choice of making a new thread without waiting for the post limit to be reached. It would also be a bit easier for those threads to load on mobile devices if the threads have less posts.
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No.83107
>>83102
> It would also be a bit easier for those threads to load on mobile devices if the threads have less posts.
This.
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No.83114
>>83102
>>83107
Yeah, I hadn't thought of mobile browsing. I know big threads can load very slowly on mobile and that is unfortunate. I was more concerned with saving space. Eventually things are going to fall off the catalog forever, but keeping stuff to fewer threads for similar topics can help prevent that for longer.
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No.83118
>>83114
>Eventually things are going to fall off the catalog forever, but keeping stuff to fewer threads for similar topics can help prevent that for longer.
We have about 8 pages left, which would take about 6 months to fill.
When we get to page 20, I'd like to try to archive as many threads as possible with the help of other anons, upload them somewhere, and link them to a custom page on /miku/.
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No.83176
REMINDER TO PROPERLY COMPRESS YOUR IMAGE FILES
-~#\Good to know/#~-
colour depth:
Amount of bits per pixel.
Higher = (much) larger = smoother colours;
Lower = (much) smaller = more pixelated colours.
1 bit: 2^1 = 2 colours
2 bit: 2^2 = 4 colours
4 bit: 2^4 = 16 colours
8 bit: 2^8 = 256 colours
16 bit: 2^16 = 65.536 colours
32 bit: 2^32 = …
8 bit is fine for most images. Anything with few colours (including a limited amount of shades) can safely be re-encoded to 8 bit. For most icons 4 bit or even 2 bit will do fine, especially when using .ico.
24 bit is standard for most photos, but most people won't notice the difference between 16 and 24 bit. People who do (artists, animators, photographs - people who work with images regularly) either don't mind or understand the importance of proper image encoding.
32 bit and up: most people don't have monitors to display. Very few monitors boast a colour depth beyond 16.7 million (24 bit) or 1.07 billion (30 bit) - 32 bit is 4.29 billion. This is assuming the monitors are properly calibrated, on an OS that supports 'deep' colours (30 bit and up) and they have a hefty CPU.
Pro-tip: the vast majority of professionals I asked use monitors with a colour depth of 24 bit. I personally use a 30 bit monitor, but rarely get use out of the colour depth. If you are concerned with compressing higher quality images, without losing too much quality, you can safely cap it off at 24 bit.
colour space:
Time to get cooky with science! colour spaces (not to be confused with colour models, RGB, CMYK, etc) are organizations of colours. Colours here means 'wavelength'. Simply put: a colour space is a collection of wavelengths.
In a colour space, colours are carefully organized so that the machine understand what to display. This does not mean that all colours can be displayed, however. Different devices and even applications have their own colour spaces. Some colours are displayed 'the same' by almost all devices, some are device dependent.
Becoming familiar with device-independent colours is good way to know what colours/shades can and can not be removed for optimal compression. This is especially useful if you need to knock of 'that little bit' in coloured images.
Pro-tip: practically every, visual professional works with a select set of base colours, based on colour models and colour theory, which determine what palette (base colours + shades, colour range) to use in a work. This is known as a gamut. In layman terms: artists use a few main colours from which they 'mix' the rest. A few popular examples are yellow and blue, green and purple (really), cyan-yellow-magenta and indigo-blue-yellow-orange.
If you can identify the palette of an image, you can compress colours that are at the edge of the colour range. For example: if the primary colours are fuchsia and light green, you can discard the yellow and blue undertones without sacrificing the overall colour impression.
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No.83178
REMINDER TO PROPERLY COMPRESS YOUR IMAGE FILES
>>83176
Quick word on image scaling & interpolation:
Advanced class. "interpolation" for images is a term used to determine what algorithm to use when changing the resolution of an image - in short: a way for the machine to guess where the pixels are supposed to go. There are many, many, many different types of interpolation techniques and all of them have their use. Generally speaking though, the ones you will encounter most are:
Nearest-neighbour: replaces nearby pixels with a similair value, useful for up- AND downscaling pixelated images or images with sharp lines;
Bilinear: similar to nearest neighbour, but softens the sharp lines to make images look smoother. Images tend to look interlaced, as if weaved in strings. Useful for downscaling detailed images, or upscaling images with distinct separation between details;
Bicubic: similar to nearest neighbour, but smooths around every pixel, making the image look (relatively) fuzzy. Useful for upscaling detailed images.
Most image editing applications will offer away to further change the image while scaling. The most common techniques are sharpening and smoothing, which do what you'd expect. You will want to use sharpening on downscaled images and smoothing on upscaled images.
Pro-tip: There are other ways to interpolate scaling, some of them very refined. Don't just use whatever is presented to you and google what the best ways for your specific purpose. That said, you will rarely need a technique beyond nearest-neighbour, bilinear and bicubic.
trixxx:
Lower resolution = smaller;
Less colours = smaller;
If your image has only one alpha layer (all pixels are either fully opaque or fully transparent), use .gif to cut down on size;
For images with multiple alpha layers/values, use .png;
For already pixelated images, you can usually sacrifice colour depth;
Simple computer generated images, like MMD images, usually consist out of multiple key colours, rather than several shades. Using a selective colour range can greatly reduce file size with little or no impact;
Try downscaling your image by tiny bits to lower file size, for example going from 900xy to 800xy;
Upscaling is almost always bad. If you want a bigger image, make it big from the ground up. (The same is not true for downscaling.) Professional illustrators and graphic designers (in so far they work with image editing software) prefer to use huge canvases (4k and up) which they save at a lower resolution;
Some software is specially designed to compress with minimal quality loss. Most of these are free and open-source too! Don't be afraid to google for help, ever;
The most important trick of them all: we humans are horribly flawed, our perception especially. There are many ways to exploit what we see, making it easy to cut down size: if you think something looks 'fine', it is likely 99% of everyone else will think it looks 'fine' as well. Experiment. (On that note: quality snobs are just that, quality snobs.)
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No.83180
REMINDER TO PROPERLY COMPRESS YOUR IMAGE FILES
It saves you disk space and makes it browsing much easier, both on mobile platforms and on slower connections.
tl;dr:
compressed .jpgs for files with colours;
downsized .gifs for simple/flat images and icons;
png-8 for images with sharp lines (comics, MMD/MMM images);
png-24 for images where LUDICROUSLY HIGH QUALITY is a must (high resolution images, like professional logos and pure textures).
Depending on your image editing software, .gifs might be encoded smaller than .pngs. Use your discretion.
Interlacing: load image in several passes, thus creating a low-res preview of the image. Slightly (around 10%) increases imagefile size for .png, but beneficial on slower connections. Use on large resolution images, even when properly compressed. NOT A SUBSTITUTE FOR COMPRESSION.
IF YOU POST A 2k UNCOMPRESSED AND NOT INTERLACED IMAGE AT 2Mb I'LL HAUNT YOU FROM THE GRAVE
More info:
>>83176
>>83178
>>83102
>>83118
I can store HTTP/CSS and screencap images for you, if the files aren't too big/numerous. I don't imagine they'll be frequented, so bandwidth shouldn't be an issue.
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No.83235
>>83180
>AT 2Mb
256KB images are big now?
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No.83246
Thanks for all the info, and the links here >>83221
This is mainly for the people making OC, but would be useful for anyone I guess. After checking out a few of those programs, Caesium seems like a great solution if you are wanting to compress your images without noticeable quality loss. It is extremely easy to use. Simply give it what you want, even whole folders, set the quality and output options, and It Just Works™.
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No.84112
We're slowly filling the pages of this board. In order to slow it for a little longer, some threads were pruned. Here's a screenshot of the deleted threads.
If you were the creator of one of these threads, think that your thread might receive more activity now and it respects our rules perfectly, then feel free to remake such thread.
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No.84152
so I know the characters a bit and listen to some of the music but how much do I need to know about vocaliod to be a part of this board? I'm looking for a new board to call home and this seems nice
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No.84153
>>84152
If you enjoy Vocaloid songs or like some of the characters then this board might be for you.
You're welcome in here as long as you follow our rules.
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No.84157
>>84153
I think I can do that, but how do you tag things as nsfw? I'm pretty new to imageboards but I feel like I'll need to know that
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No.84159
>>84157
You want to mark the image as a spoiler.
Click the post options button and you'll find other options and settings. One of them says "spoiler images".
That's what you want. It remembers your selection between posts, so you'll need to uncheck the box if you want to stop posting spoilered images.
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No.84422
>>84159
ok I get it, thanks
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No.84521
I noticed a tiny thing in the css I hadn't noticed before so I devised a fix;
Just add this near form table tr th;
table tbody tr:nth-of-type( even ) {
background: #B8D8D9;
}
and replace the color in these places
div.post_modified div.content-status {
color: #A8AEBC;
}
.unimportant.board-settings {
color: #A8AEBC;
}
with a darker color (either #2B8F9F or #000)
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No.84527
>>84521
Just applied the fix. Thank you again /hover/.
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No.84528
Continuation of >>84112 :
Pruned another 2 threads. Take in mind that only threads beyond page 10 and with less than 5 replies might be manually pruned.
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No.84553
>>84527
Its probably better to use black since it better matches the rest of the text at least for the post options thing so it doesn't look unreadable and out of place. (#000000 is black)
But yeah it looks better now.
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No.86712
Plug.dj is back up. Incredibly it also saved all accounts and playlist information as well.
Please answer this poll of would you like to return to Plug.dj or continue using Cytube.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10372667
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No.86714
>>86712
Also voting will end this Monday: June 6th
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No.87621
>>86714
Well, today is the last day of the vote. How will you (we?) be deciding what to do though? A simple vote like this doesn't say anything about which site would actually be better to use. Would you be wanting some discussion about it too? Listing the pros/cons of each site or why people want one over the other, and coming to a conclusion from that seems more appropriate.
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No.87697
>>87621
Conversation is welcome and encouraged from everyone that voted.
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No.87701
>>87697
As things stand right now, I think the cytube has a better environment for MM, especially with the emotes which have been set. Plug.dj has a lot of good memories for me, and I love the avatars, but I don't think it fits as well as cytube does now. If it had revived sooner, I may have considered it more strongly.
Having said that, I voted for no preference.
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No.87703
I like the Cytube because of the customization; the background and avatars are a nice addition to it.
I have a lot of good memories with the Plug as well, but I also think it handles the queue better than Cytube does. It automatically rotates people through the queue so there doesn't need to be a person dedicated to maintaining a playlist.
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No.87715
>>87703
sorry, I meant the emotes rather than avatars.
also I voted for no preference.
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No.87724
I really like having stored playlists in the plug.dj. It makes it easier when choosing a song, to know what songs were already played recently, and to add a song that somebody else is playing to your playlist. The rotating DJ system is really nice too.
Cytube allows for a lot of customization, from emotes to CSS to scripts, and has a visible queue of songs that are going to be played next.
I like both for different reasons. I think the plug is more ideal when it comes to MMs, but I don't really prefer one over the other, so I voted "no preference".
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No.87725
I liked how plug had automatic queues for songs, how they handled playlists.
And yeah, the nostalgia, too.
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No.87732
Here are my reasons why I don't like the plug:
1. An account is needed to do ANYTHING. This is an unnecessary barrier for people just wanting to hop in and contribute a few songs and/or chat.
2. Every channel looks almost exactly the same. No fun emotes that many community members have submitted ideas for. No OC background (maybe this can be changed?). No unique layouts or color schemes that I can see. Nothing. None of the things that make the cytube look unique and like it belongs to a vocaloid community. I don't know all the options available to channel creators but every one I have looked at is nearly identical which is just boring.
3. Other customization options are extremely lacking. You can't resize the video/chat/playlist however you want like in cytube. You can't have chat notifications for any message if you are in another tab. You can't set the video quality to be exactly what you want.
4. Pointless scoring system for songs that adds nothing. Pointless leveling system that adds nothing and only arbitrarily locks shit away from you until you get enough points.
5. The avatars look terrible. Opinion I know
6. You have to create playlists to contribute music. Alright for adding a lot of music but a pain in the ass for just wanting to put in a few songs. This point is more mixed and about the only thing I could see as a benefit to switching.
7. Lame social media features, cash shop, and subscription options.
8. It may not even be up for long.
Feel free to correct me on any of this if something is inaccurate.
TL;DR I don't like the plug.
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No.87737
Features:
Plug.dj:
Customization:
- XML based message of the Day
- amazing preset avatars and badges
- Apple Emojis
Moderation:
- Ban list
- Mute list
- Ban and mute
- Wait list lock
User:
- Registered chat (anonymous listening/viewing)
- Friend list
- Community staff list
- Custom playlists (plug.dj based and persistent)
- DJ history (video - user - time)
- Recently played list per user
- Community list per user
- Behavior settings for the video and chat interface
- Autosorting playlist
- Woots, grabs and mehs (practically means: upvote, add to playlist and voteskip)
Cytube:
Customization:
- Custom CSS, javascript
- External CSS, javascript
- HTML based message of the day
- Chat filters (used primarily to inject HTML tags and CSS style)
- Custom emotes
- Custom user avatars
- Plain Emojis
Moderation:
- Ban list
- Log for chat, playlist, login init and mod (displays date - time - user - event)
- Permission for almost everything, down to adding things to the playlist and up to drinking commands and javascript/css
- Voteskip ratio, max video length, auto-AFK delay, throttle chat
- Kick, mute, shadow mute, name ban, IP ban
- Password, video limit
- Polls
User:
- Public access/anonymous chat
- Multi-media support, playlist support (youtube based)
- Custom layout and script activation control
- A bunch of chat options
- PM system
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No.87752
A few ramifications from the person who coded part of the cytube and helps manage both the cytube and plug.dj:
First, although the customization options are vast and impressive for cytube, it comes with the consequence that any mistakes the developer makes stick (GIGO!). For example: I design and develop desktop first - this makes it harder to browse on mobile devices. This would not be an issue if the default cytube layout was mobile friendly, but it is not. (I know at least two users who have been pushed away because of this.)
The plug.dj design, although lacking in its customization freedom, is consistent and functional.
The features I have coded are (ostensibly) not used, or are a vanity feature for the benefit of a few individuals. Many of these features are not needed for the plug.dj, as its design sidesteps the issues altogether. (Cluttered UI, confusing symbolic language, etc)
Although it is definitely true that plug.dj is less stable than cytube – so much so that it was and is a joke – the response time of the server, both in chat and playlist, seems to be faster for plug.dj. (I have no idea which service takes up more resources, but I wager it's the plug.dj.)
I hope the above provides some insight.
>>87732
From what I can tell pretty much everyone believes the avatars look awful. (That's part of the charm though.)
Also you can join and view without an account.
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No.87961
Would anyone that voted in favor of the Plug mind explaining why?
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No.88745
I accidentally made a new thread, could you move that OC miku art into the art and draw thread?
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No.88754
>>88745
You can delete you own posts in the posting menu, just click on the little triangle. Then you could repost the picture yourself in the thread. Posts can't get "moved" somewhere else after they are made.
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No.88761
>>88754
Thanks but I couldn't retain the pass for post deletion.
Could you delete it? I'll just post it again in the right thread this time.
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No.88765
>>88761
Oh, well in that case it would probably be best to just report the post you want deleted and a volunteer should get to it eventually (I'm not one).
It's a cute picture too
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No.88869
>>87961
Sure.
The user options seem a lot better in the plug. The custom playlists are great. Not being able to add direct links is a minus, but the built-in search is helpful for quickly making playlists.
The history is very useful if you hear a song you like but forgot to check what it was before it ended.
While the avatars are pretty bad, the UI in general looks much more polished, compared to the shoddy look of the cytube.
Customization is a double-edged sword, because it's not guaranteed that everyone will find the results aesthetically pleasing.
Some of these are opinions of course, but there you have it.
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No.89556
>>89555
I'm fine with continuing discussion here. I'm not deleting my posts though, briefly bringing the thread mood down a little isn't cause for deletion to me, and it's not meant to be something too negative anyway. The posts were specifically for the person doing the translations and about their threads so I see no problem with them. But It is also a larger issue of the board owner and volunteers here editing posts when it only serves their own purposes (fixing typos, formatting errors, etc). It doesn't happen that often but it should never happen at all in my opinion, outside of OPs that need it or some other special circumstance. Otherwise it is just abusing the power you have in my opinion since it is only for your own benefit. Volunteers are here to serve the board. Editing your posts to fix errors only serves to make your own posts look better, it only serves yourself. This may seem like a minor issue but it makes me distrust the BO/volunteers when they think it is acceptable to use their powers so casually like that for personal gain. I think you should only act as anything above a regular user if there is a very good reason, rule violations for example, or something similar that requires it.
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No.89557
>>89556
This is my own opinion, but while I think post editing should only be done when necessary, post editing to fix typos or other errors shouldn't be an issue, and anyone can request to get their posts edited for this purpose if they want to.
As long as a mod does not edit a post in a way that is unfair to other users (such as misrepresenting another user's post) then it is not power abuse, but it may be an unnecessary application of moderation privileges.
If there was an option that allows users to edit their own posts, I'd have it enabled for this board.
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No.89560
>>89556
>>89557
I see nothing wrong with editing post for honest reasons and I'm not a volunteer. Our volunteers are human. They make mistakes but they try their best to fair with everybody and I respect that.
I don't think they abuse their powers. They are not swinging the ban hammer willy nilly, they are not constantly changing rules to suite themselves. They don't use their mod powers to troll people. As you say they are serving us and with serves comes some benefits and I think post editing(as long as it being done for honest reasons) is a very small benefit and I see nothing wrong with it.
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No.89569
>>89557
I consider unnecessary use of mod privileges to be abuse of mod privileges personally. Perhaps I have a stricter view on what is acceptable, but it's your board so whatever. I think it makes posts look far worse having the edited message on it than seeing typos or other mistakes, and a user also has no way to know what was edited about the post unless they saw it originally. I'd rather see even less post editing but if you want to continue allowing it as it has been used then so be it
>>89560
Things are very fair around here, I agree. This one of the few issues I've had with moderation here which is pretty amazing. I hate to even bring it up but I do have strong feelings on the subject. I don't think there should be any "benefits" to the position though. They are volunteers after all, and I don't think they should do anything outside of what regular users can do unless it's very necessary.
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No.89584
Reposting the meta posts from >>80210
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No.89596
>>89584
Was this really necessary? Seems excessive since I was mainly wanting to talk to the person who made the thread, about things they only do in those threads. I brought the more general meta stuff to this thread. You even deleted my post thanking them, why?
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No.89599
>>89596
I should have left the first two posts alone, that's my mistake and I'm sorry. However, the rest of the posts are meta and belong here.
It isn't wrong to discuss topics related to moderation, and it was fine that you did in that thread while the volunteer was there, but that thread is for the translation of a particular manga and we can't leave all the meta posts there because they're off-topic.
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No.89618
>>89599
>off-topic
Perhaps, but there has been off-topic posting in a lot of threads that has never been deleted. Some greater guidelines and consistency would be nice if you are going to enforce some type of standard for what is and is not allowed in a thread.
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No.89620
>>89618
I added this line to the rules.html:
>Meta belongs in the Meta thread sticky. Meta posts outside of the Meta thread may be deleted.
This has been in "effect" a long time ago actually, and can apply to threads too. Note that it's not an actual rule but a guideline, and not every meta post outside of the Meta thread will be deleted.
If you have an example of off-topic posting that you think should *have been deleted please post it here.
Edit: Changed a word's tense to be more accurate.
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No.89625
>>89620
If we're going to delete things, give a warning in advance and some time(24h at least) to update archives where necessary.
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No.89629
>>89625
Okay, but I don't plan on deleting posts from old threads. I'm looking for an example of off-topic posting that should have been deleted to discuss whether it should have or not based on the current rules.
Third try. Forgot capcode.
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No.89648
>>89620
This is good, thanks. If you are going to enforce some rule/guideline then please have it written somewhere officially before you act on it. Otherwise the action just seems arbitrary. And I'd rather not point out posts or anything, "off topic" is really vague for this board, which is the point I was trying to make.
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No.89652
>>89648
You're welcome.
It really depends on the circumstance. For example, a casual discussion of meta topics in the Upstairs and Miku Monday threads is generally okay because they don't follow a strict topic. On the other hand, song threads, translation threads, etc. do follow a specific topic or purpose, and meta posts may derail it or clutter it with many unrelated posts, making it harder for other users to read and follow the thread.
In any case, for any comment or criticism towards moderation, the board, or the owner/volunteers it's best to post it here, or to send me or another volunteer an email if you prefer that.
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No.89716
>>89556
I felt that way too in the beginning. I think coming down from 4chan exposure (down? shouldn't it be up?) to this place has that effect where things look jarring at first but you learn to trust them over time. or not. never trust nobody. not even yourself. memepic.jpg
>>89557
>and anyone can request to get their posts edited for this purpose if they want to.
Holy Shit, this is like Christmas! It's what I always wanted. Now I can finally boss people around. I'll be like:
"Could you be a dear and tidy up my post, old chap? I seem to have let my dumb spill all over and it made some ghastly typos. hardy-har-har"
Then when they don't even get them all cause there are just that many typos I make, I'll be like:
"You missed a spot."
I'm such a typo factory, I'll have the mod team running around all day, give em such a burn they can cook those hot pockets just by sitting on them. xoxoxo. L O L small x upper case letter D
>>89584
>And am I the only one bothered by this?
No, like I said, it bothered me in the past for reasons among them being that it reveals exactly who the volunteers are which potentially limits their effectiveness and can also bother other posters (I told you so, I told you so). But I do not think it was misused for the purposes of the translation thread.
I also think the problem isn't in people editing their posts but rather not everyone being able to. I think this is something that should be brought to 8chan's attention. The only reason 8chan doesn't have that feature is because 4chan doesn't have it, but 8ch has taken steps in so many ways to be its own thing so I don't see why there shouldn't be an option to enable post editing for every user in the board options.
4chan has this approach: regular posters can't edit posts so mods can't (rather don't) either. Here, mods are free to edit their posts then all other users should be able to as well.
>>89620
I'm really digging these new guidelines.
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No.89721
>>89716
>Now I can finally boss people around
Not really. Only for pretty bad typos, like a case where your post could be interpreted the wrong way. Also to update info on a thread's OP.
>I also think the problem isn't in people editing their posts but rather not everyone being able to. I think this is something that should be brought to 8chan's attention.
I do agree with this.
>I'm really digging these new guidelines.
None of them are new though. Only the meta guideline wasn't written in the rules.html, but meta was always supposed to be in this thread, which is why this thread is a sticky.
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No.90040
>>89716
>I think this is something that should be brought to 8chan's attention.
I brought it up for you;
>>>/sudo/2043
Codemonkey has been making changes to the site lately, hopefully he will pick up on this
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No.90056
Thanks! Hopefully something good will come out of it.
By the way, spoilers are no longer animated for me as well. Recently people were mentioning that the leek wasn't shaking. Strange, considering I haven't done any updates. Must be a site side thing. (no, wait, I updated my browser, hmm - Firefox 47.0)
Either way, it doesn't bother me, just decided to mention since other people were also doing so.
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No.90057
>>90040
Forgot to quote, because I closed the window on accident and had to retype everything. Now, I wouldn't have to flood with two posts in a row if I could edit my original post… just saiyan.
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No.90062
>>90056
It seems like the spoilers file was compressed as a regular PNG instead of an APNG. I'll try reuploading it.
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No.90140
I think I fixed the spoilers file. Should be working now.
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No.91449
Admin of this board, can you add please this board >>>/vo/ to the recommendation list. It's general board about Vocaloid, Voceroid and other related stuff. Thanks.
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No.91459
>>91449
I don't have a recommendation list for boards, but I'll turn the FAQ page into a FAQ & Links page. Your board will be listed in there.
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No.91464
The board announcement doesn't seem to update, but I've added your board to the FAQ page:
https://8ch.net/miku/faq.html
Edit: Nevermind, it did update. It should show as "FAQ & Links" now.
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No.91466
Anyway, thank you for visiting us /vo/!
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No.91670
>>91464
> The board announcement doesn't seem to update. The board announcement doesn't seem to update
I am admin of this board, so I can update this anouncement.
Of course, thank you for updating FAQ. I will be update my board.
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No.91684
>>91670
I was talking about /miku/'s. It did update, but it took time for some reason. Pic related is how it looks now.
>Of course, thank you for updating FAQ. I will be update my board.
Thank you too.
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No.91817
>>91684
Yeah you have to post a new post for it to update announcements (and flags I think)
Since you have a links page now you could maybe add my board on there too but its up to you. I've had you linked all this time and suggested /miku/ to some of my friends.
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No.91821
>>91817
>Yeah you have to post a new post for it to update announcements (and flags I think)
Yeah, but it still takes time to update even after you post.
I've already added you there though, check the FAQ & Links page.
I'm very grateful for all the help we've received from you, so there was no way I wouldn't add your board..
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No.91829
>>91821
Thanks
Yeah I noticed that with the flags they're taking a while to get added in.
On that note, I was wondering if it be okay if I used the mini miku and mini teto flags so that posters from here or teto/utau could maybe use them if they ever would like to post on my board.
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No.91834
>>91829
Sure, go ahead.
Your pictures are really cool and they gave me an idea. Is it fine if I make a banner that's /hover/ and /miku/ related?
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No.91838
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No.92083
Uh, I'm not familiar with the board's history. What's the point of the Upstairs threads?
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No.92090
>>92083
It's about posting Vocaloid pictures. You can talk about things while you post them.
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No.94890
In less than twelve days is the next MM day! We are busy organizing the events and we are looking for suggestions.
The current schedule can be found here: http://cacophony.neocities.org/friend/MM.html (This page and the schedule is subject to change)
If you have any suggestions, or would like to volunteer as host or help, please send an email to hatengine@firemail
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No.95818
A new guideline was added to clarify that threads related to Vocaloid culture are allowed:
https://8ch.net/miku/rules.html
Threads related to Vocaloid culture are allowed. Take in mind that your thread might be bumplocked if it contributes little or no content to the board.
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No.95820
>>95815
I would like to add, I remember seeing the Miku in a pizza box picture in the Scott thread, which further made the thread Vocaloid related.
The Domino campaign spawned some OC which also could have been posted there rightly.
People having fun with/making fun of this publicity stunt should be allowed to do so.(within certain limits, of course)
It was said it was deleted based on rule 1.
>All threads must be related to Vocaloid and its community.
It could be said, the thread in question was a re-enactment of an actual Miku Promotion/campaign, which some people were having fun with, which would render its deletion unwarranted.
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No.95824
>>95820
The problem was that the extent of what rule 1 allows cannot be fully determined, so threads have to be judged in case by case basis.
I this particular case, the thread was reported multiple times as a "shitposting thread" and a rule 1 violation. Some people considered the thread /miku/ related (indirectly, by posting in it), while others didn't.
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No.95827
>>95824
>the thread was reported multiple times as a "shitposting thread" and a rule 1 violation
What about
>Ignore posts/threads that you don't like, and report those that break the rules.
Did it actually break the rules? If not, were the reports/deletion justified?
You can say it was poor quality, but did it actually break the rules? We already had a discussion about "quality of posts and their deletions".
>Some people considered the thread /miku/ related (indirectly, by posting in it), while others didn't.
This isn't a voting contest, right?
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No.95832
>>95827
I did not think it broke the rules, which is why I dismissed the reports and let the thread be. However, another volunteer deleted the thread.
I don't believe the deletion was justified, but I can understand how one could consider the thread as unrelated. That's why I wrote the new guideline, to make it clear that such threads are allowed on this board.
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No.95833
>>95832
Alright, I understand now.
Thanks for the explanation.
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No.95836
>>95833
You're welcome.
User input is valuable. If you agree or disagree with the moderation, feel free to post your thoughts in this thread.
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No.95846
>>95818
I don't think allowing those types of threads is a good idea. If you would bumplock a thread, to me that says it isn't worth seeing or getting attention, so why even allow it?
Also, can you make the board logs visible so if something like this >>95832 happens again people know who did it?
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No.95852
>>95846
>I don't think allowing those types of threads is a good idea. If you would bumplock a thread, to me that says it isn't worth seeing or getting attention, so why even allow it?
Rule 1 allows threads related to Vocaloid and its community. By extension, threads about Vocaloid culture are also allowed.
Because of the lack of discussion and content, it got bumplocked, but it wasn't locked or deleted to give a chance to the OP or other anons to contribute to it.
>Also, can you make the board logs visible so if something like this >>95832 happens again people know who did it?
I've enabled the logs, but with the usernames disabled. It's best not to point fingers and blame a mod for a mistake anyone could have made.
Edit: minor fixes
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No.95854
>>95852
>It's best not to point fingers and blame a mod for a mistake anyone could have done
The vols should be accountable for their actions. If one were to be doing something people thought were unreasonable they should be able to know who it was. The extra transparency of the username is important since there are multiple people on the board staff.
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No.95858
>>95854
Another problem is that the usernames may be sensitive info. I'll enable it if both volunteers are fine with their names shown.
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No.95870
>>95846
>can you make the board logs visible
I'm objecting to this. It sets a bad precedent.
For one, I trust the moderation fully. Secondly, I have good reason to believe volunteers and posters largely agree on what the rules should be and how they should be enforced. This very discussion is proof of that.
To go from 'one to ten', so to say, I feel will poison the well in the long term.
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No.95875
>>95858
>username for an 8chan board
>sensitive info
What?
>>95870
>I feel will poison the well in the long term.
Why?
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No.95879
>>95858
I agree with >>95870 on this.
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No.95880
>>95875
>>username for an 8chan board
>>sensitive info
>What?
As the usernames may have been used in other accounts as well. I trust /miku/'s community, but absolutely anyone can see the board logs.
I'm fine with mine being shown, but I don't know if the other volunteers are okay with that. To make their usernames visible without informing them first would be a bad move for me as a BO.
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No.95886
>>95875
As I mentioned, it sets a bad precedent. It communicates various things, one of which is that moderation is not trustworthy and should be monitored. This is the notion I object to.
There is no need to put pressure on the volunteers, so I believe, by putting them under a magnifying glass. If it eventually does go wrong, we can discuss it when it happened - like we have done until now. To try and catch them 'on the millimeter' is unnecessary. Trust that they mean well and that mistakes can be amended.
Furthermore, in my opinion it doesn't matter who exactly faults. If there is a pattern, the board owner can handle it. As far as I'm concerned the moderation of /miku/ is a collective and slip ups should be discussed openly without addressing the person.
Also, to expand on what was written above: keep in mind that volunteers and even board owners are users like you and me. They are subject to the same vulnerabilities as you and me - but they are also subject to more. Not only are the full blaze of the spotlight were it to go wrong, it is easier for people to retrieve their information and harass them.
Why risk this when the necessity is contentious to begin with?
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No.95887
>>95870
>>95879
>>95886
Thank you for understanding.
I do want discuss this topic with the other volunteers to see what we can do about this, and if revealing the board logs is necessary or not.
Edit: Disabled the board log for now.
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No.95893
>>95886
I trust the BO/vols most of the time, but they have done things before I don't agree with. Having the logs visible is a nice record, something you can easily cite if you feel something unfair was done. They do a fine job, but are not perfect.
>It communicates various things, one of which is that moderation is not trustworthy and should be monitored.
Moderation should be monitored because of the power they have. I'm not suggesting people nitpick every single action they take, but trusting them 100% without question is just foolish, no matter how well they do their job. I have very little reason to not trust them, but keeping some skepticism is important I think.
>>95887
They can already see the logs, so asking them is pointless. This is for the benefit of regular users. And I am aware you guys are normal users like everyone else, but the point stands that they already have access to that information so it seems unfair to hide it based on if they want it visible or not.
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No.95896
>>95893
I agree that users have the right to know when something was deleted or altered because of a mod, but I disagree with showing the name of the mod responsible for an action, unless such action is bad enough to have the mod's privileges revoked. Otherwise, the actions will be judged by themselves, and not on the volunteer that committed them.
If the mistake was on my part, I will always admit it and apologize properly.
If it was on the volunteers' part, then I'll discuss the matter to them and make sure it does not happen again.
We respect the anonymity and privacy of all (normal) users and we don't reveal information about them without their explicit permission. The same goes for the volunteers, and I cannot reveal info that can be associated with their names.
>They can already see the logs, so asking them is pointless. This is for the benefit of regular users. And I am aware you guys are normal users like everyone else, but the point stands that they already have access to that information so it seems unfair to hide it based on if they want it visible or not.
Only the BO can see the board log. It's been a year since I last logged-in as a volunteer, but I'm pretty sure I didn't have access to it.
Edit: Improved the formatting a little.
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No.95899
>>95893
I don't see why people with power should be monitored when it is such as small, insulated community. It has yet to be proven that /miku/'s volunteers need to be monitored. To reiterate: as far as I'm concerned, if something questionable happens we will address it as a community then and there.
This is not a state, where there are several dozens - hundreds in some cases - of various institutions in a maze of bureaucracy. This is a small board where the powers that be are already open towards and intimate with the community. The suggestion seems like an unnecessary complication. If you are concerned with the behavior or actions of a volunteer, ask them to explain themselves, rather than insinuate a threat of moderation. Communication is the key.
And again: the problem I brought up is the the precedent that is being set. What is communicated to the volunteers: "we don't trust you, we need to keep an eye on you". Even if unintended, volunteers can not be blamed for feeling like this is encapsulated within the message. This is ground for bad blood, which, considering I find the suggestion on its ideological basis contentious, I don't feel is necessary.
As for features/information hidden from users: volunteers can also remove posts, ban people and mass ban groups. Do you feel users should have that liberty as well?
My point is: the line is drawn somewhere. The discussion is about making the logs available, not about people already in a privileged position having said privileges. Let's focus on where the goal is set at the moment, before introducing/shifting to abstract ideals of opacity.
>>95896
Volunteers can't see the board log, that's correct.
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No.95909
>>95896
My mistake then, I did not know that, and find that pretty strange. The log seems like something they should be able to see.
>I agree that users have the right to know when something was deleted or altered because of a mod
Then why hide the logs again?
>>95899
I can't control how anyone will feel about my posts. My intent is just to give normal users a little more power in the event they think a vol or the BO did something unfair.
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No.95910
>>95909
False, you can and do moderate what comes out of your mouth - or in our case, what you splay on the screen. Same applies here, but with communal and long-term concerns.
Also, why would the average user require/need more power?
>Then why hide the logs again?
Because people are objecting and the board owner is kindly listening to our concerns. Again, we communicate and value each others judgement.
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No.95915
>>95909
>Then why hide the logs again?
It is as >>95910 said.
Also, at the very least I should inform the volunteers before I enable it again, with or without names.
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No.95977
Is there actually a way to close youtube embedded links?
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No.96001
>>95977
I think there isn't a way to close them, but I'm not sure.
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No.96007
>>95909
>I can't control how anyone will feel about my posts.
>>95910
>False, you can and do moderate what comes out of your mouth
Not sure what you meant by that, but it doesn't sound right. People should be able to post freely within the limits of the rules of the board. It sounds like you're saying they should tailor their posts not to upset anyone, or the mods in this case. The mods are only supposed to enforce rules, not emotions.
>>95910
>Also, why would the average user require/need more power?
In my opinion, they don't. However, this incident can be considered a mod going overboard again, which makes it natural to raise concerns about moderation.
Personally, I'm fine with discussing issues in this thread.
>>95977
Not that I know of. I just reload the page if it gets in the way.
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No.96090
>>95977
There's a little white box with a minus in it to the top left which closes the embed
Also I found this screen while going through some of my files from 8 years ago
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No.96091
>>96090
>There's a little white box with a minus in it to the top left which closes the embed
Its not there. Oh well better suggest it to codemonkey.
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No.96100
>>96091
It works for webm's at least that spoilered webm
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No.96147
>>96007
When I use "you can and do moderate what comes out of your mouth", I mean that you use language appropriate to the situation. You don't walk up to a black person and yell "Nigger, go back to the cotton fields!" This is extremely rude and likely to get your ass kicked. The same applies here in a more nuanced form.
Rather than focusing on the explicit meaning of opening the moderation log, I attract attention to implicit connotations and what the 'exchange' insinuates. Opening the moderation log does not merely open the moderation log, it also carries the connotation of what I have written before. That a volunteer might feel pressured, alienated or even ostracized. Sure, it might not be interpreted that way – or it might not consciously – but I find the risk too big for something that I feel is wholly unnecessary.
This is an additional consideration out of politeness and with concern for the long term effects. This is not an attempt to censor or - conversely - alienate the posters. On the contrary: I feel that, precisely because this is /miku/, we can consider the long term effects (and deem them too rough). We can trust the volunteers to not abuse their power and trust them to be open for discussion. Any notion against this, no matter how innocuous I fear, would be toxic and poison the well. (Although the exact extend is unknown.)
And, generally speaking, in my experience trying to not upset people is a good thing. This does not mean that etiquette needs to be enforced, but decorum is still expected and preferable. A bit of politeness - rather than unwarranted ruthlessness - and openness - rather than caustic cynicism - seems more beneficial to me, than encouraging people post with whatever tone they want. Mind: tone, they can still post what they want, but the tone with which they do it need not be preferable.
To point: we have a relatively polite discussion of the subject - we didn't need volunteers nor others to correct our behavior, we did it all by ourselves in the spirit of good will.
Also there is not a single post where I advocate for the enforcement of etiquette nor tone policing. Instead, I - as I still am doing - promoted for self-moderation and sensibility. Once more: as far as I'm concerned there is no need to be malicious - and when somebody does get upset, it can be discussed openly. This is different from restricting somebodies freedom of speech. You are free to post whatever you want - within the board and site rules - but others can still object to what you post. (As I have; hopefully without seeming antagonistic.)
Regarding your concerns about the volunteer history:
If I may be so bolt: your behavior seems incongruent. Unless I am confusing you with another post, you have been consistently rallying for more monitoring for the moderation and - in your own words - "giving more power to the people". There seems to be a genuine concern here.
As for the supposed 'incident' prior, I have to object here as well. (Assuming you are referring to the case of a moderator changing the OP of a translation thread they solely contribute to.) I didn't pipe up when it happened, as I felt the board owner addressed it better than I could, but I find the last "squabble" highly objectionable. A moderator edited a post to a thread for and about their translations. This is in no way abuse of power. This is in no way going overboard. All they did was alter the top post to be more inline with the information within the thread - for the benefit of the user, not for the benefit of themselves. There is, patently, no abuse of power at play. Likewise, to claim this is proof of misconduct seems like a non sequitur.
If I may be so rude as to steer the discussion for a moment… Your motivations and reasoning for wanting more opacity and restricting volunteer freedom are still vague to me (restricting them from editing their posts is a form of restricting their freedom to conduct). If you could expand on it, with that I mean give the ideals laying within your proposal and explain how they directly and indirectly connect to this proposal, I would appreciate that. Otherwise - if it true that you don't care all that much and trust the moderation - I propose we drop the issue, keep the moderation log hidden and move on. I feel the majority of this discussion has been me expounding my position over and over and don't feel like I can expand much more without becoming needlessly prolix (this post might very well be already!)
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No.96173
>>96147
> Unless I am confusing you with another post
You are. I don't know what incident(s) that anon is referring to.
I've already made my points on why I think the log should be public, and if the names have to be hidden I'm fine with that. I think you and I have opinions far too different on this subject to get much benefit from discussion, and I don't have much more to add on it anyway.
I have brought up points against moderation before though, and I'll try to explain why , again, if it wasn't clear before. This is an imageboard, everyone is supposed to be (roughly) equal. Ideally we should never see moderators (acting as moderators) are around unless there is a rule violation or something big happens related to the board. So when I see a BO/vol making their position known by editing things or doing whatever else when it isn't related to rule enforcement, I don't like it. It's nothing more than showing off to me, hence I call it abusing power, perhaps too strong a term but whatever. There are special cases, but editing posts for typos or other basic things is not one of those to me. I rarely see that type of thing done so much on other boards and I don't understand why it is okay here, but not everyone will be so bothered by these things.
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No.96198
>>96147
You are confusing me with >>96173
And I wasn't referring to the comic thread.
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No.96200
>>96198
Then what were you referring to.
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No.96207
>>96200
the one in upstairs 52
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No.96215
>>96207
What, the volunteer editing their post or asking someone to tone it down?
Volunteers are here to maintain the rules and also nuances not caught within those rules. Rules, by the mere deficit of being formulated in lingua, will always suffer from discrepancies – and the more precise you make rules, the less accurate they will be.
This is exactly why we have jurisdiction in the state. Jurers don't just judge according to the law, they define what the laws mean in practice. As we have no jurers here, it is up to the board owner and their volunteers to decide what rules mean in practice. There would be an issue if there is a difference between what the community and the moderation believe is right, but I highly doubt that is the case.
As this discussion shows, not everyone is an automatic fit for this community. Some people might need an adjustment period. This is once again why I am for conversation and deliberation over sweeping changes and overhauls. In some cases conversation is necessary for integration.
Also, I recommend you read the end of that thread because it neatly recounts what I've been referencing.
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No.96220
>>96215
Yes, the volunteer jumping the gun and editing someone else's post.
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No.96227
>>96220
The only posts that show the 'edit' tag are the posts by the volunteer themselves. To be sure I asked the most active volunteer in the thread if they edited any other posts and they assured me they didn't.
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No.96228
>>96220
>>96227
I have edited posts, usually thread OPs, to fix the title or links to previous or next threads. When I do so, I write post to inform others that I will perform an edit.
I do not edit posts for any other purposes without the original poster's consent.
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No.96230
>>96227
Are you saying
>>61103
>Then he suddenly yelled, moderated a pic of mine and edited his post
was a lie?
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No.96232
>>96230
The volunteer remembered hiding a controversial image behind a spoiler. This one: >>60533 (They are sure they didn't delete the image and are sure they spoilered it.) From their side it was inflammatory and too political, thus breaking rule 3 and appropriate to spoiler.
Thank you for directly linking the post. It makes discussion a lot easier.
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No.96241
>>96232
If it was the picture I think it was, then I don't think it was justified. There were some misunderstandings and things deleted so I can't be sure now.
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No.98654
>>13321
Oh, I'd like to use this stylesheet as a reference to make my own. Please, could you lend me the stylesheet?
Thank you!
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No.98686
>>98654
I'd wouldn't mind if you used it, though most of the work for /miku/'s stylesheet was contributed by other anons.
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No.98687
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No.98698
>>95915
It has been awhile now, are the logs going to be made public?
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No.98718
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No.98723
>>98718
Thanks. What is 8mikubot?
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No.98726
>>98723
It's an account that was supposed to be used for cleaning up spam using ring's script, but I couldn't set it up completely, so I only use it for report notifications.
https://gitgud.io/ring/infinity-mod-cli
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No.98959
>>98654
I'm curious what your board is
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No.99476
Is that highlight and spread feature temporary, or is there a way to turn it off?
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No.99511
>>99476
It should change back to the original theme, but there's a delay for the changes to take effect.
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No.103453
Some of you may remember that we were planning to make a /miku/ archive. We're at 19 pages already, so we're most likely going to start archiving next week.
This is the plan:
1. Download threads with ChanThreadWatch.
2. Compress them into .zip (or .7z) files.
3. Upload them to storage services like Mega or Dropbox.
4. Have links to the files in a place where /miku/ users can access them.
If you have any suggestions please post them. I'm also looking for volunteers who would like to help with the archive in some way.
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No.103456
I already offered to code an archive, so I wouldn't mind volunteering for now.
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No.103469
>>103456
Thank you.
MikuAnon has an idea for a page with links to the files and offered to help with making it.
Would you like to host it?
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No.103471
>>103469
Sure. Mind that I don't have access to the back-end of the server, so all code would have to be front-end.
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No.103621
>>103453
I already saved this many pages manually but most of the full size images just went into my vocaloid folder (which has about 5000 pics from here and elsewhere) I don't use a crawler ,if someone uses that then it would be a better option. I saved these by using File -> Save as (webpage complete) in the browser.
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No.103762
>>103621
Sorry for replying so late.
It's always nice to save pages to prevent the information from being lost, so I encourage you to keep them. However, I need threads with their full-sized images and files for the archive. For that I'll be using CTW, which downloads threads with all of its files.
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No.103853
The archive page is live: http://miku.neocities.org/MikuArchive.html
I guess links to be added can be posted here? Unless the BO would rather have them submitted another way. And preferably it would just be one link per thread.
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No.103854
>>103853
Thanks.
My idea was to first split threads between those who volunteered and me so we don't have to worry about accidentally downloading the same threads.
I also think that for Upstairs and MM threads we should archive them in groups for better compression. (e.g. upstairs1-10.7z, mikumonday2016jan-mar)
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No.103856
>>103854
Sure, we could do groups for those threads.
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No.103857
>>103856
I"m going to make a list of all Upstairs and MM threads to make things easier.
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No.103860
List of all Miku Monday threads:
MikuMonday 2014-10-13 (1) >>605
MikuMonday 2015-01-04 (2) >>2432
MikuMonday 2015-03-09 (3) >>6142
MikuMonday 2015-05-10 (4) >>10455
MikuMonday 2015-06-01 (5) >>12984
MikuMonday 2015-06-21 (6) >>16468
MikuMonday 2015-07-06 (7) >>18960
MikuMonday 2015-07-27 (8) >>22714
MikuMonday 2015-08-09 (9) >>26413
MikuMonday 2015-08-24 (10) >>29399
MikuMonday 2015-09-07 (11) >>32931
MikuMonday 2015-09-21 (12) >>36452
MikuMonday 2015-10-05 (13) >>39445
MikuMonday 2015-10-25 (14) >>43892
MikuMonday 2015-11-15 (15) >>47022
MikuMonday 2015-11-16 (16) >>47325
MikuMonday 2015-11-23 (17) >>48768
MikuMonday 2015-11-30 (18) >>49864
MikuMonday 2015-12-06 (19) >>51442
MikuMonday 2015-12-14 (20) >>52817
MikuMonday 2015-12-20 (21) >>54123
MikuMonday 2015-12-27 (22) >>55476
MikuMonday 2016-01-11 (23) >>57731
MikuMonday 2016-01-18 (24) >>59451
MikuMonday 2016-02-01 (25) >>62835
MikuMonday 2016-02-15 (26) >>65921
MikuMonday 2016-03-07 (27) >>69726
MikuMonday 2016-03-20 (28) >>73381
MikuMonday 2016-04-04 (29) >>76332
MikuMonday 2016-04-18 (30) >>79045
MikuMonday 2016-05-02 (31) >>81512
MikuMonday 2016-05-23 (32) >>85222
MikuMonday 2016-06-06 (33) >>87841
MikuMonday 2016-06-27 (34) >>91883
MikuMonday 2016-07-18 (35) >>96570
MikuMonday 2016-08-08 (36) >>101708*
(*Ongoing thread)
Upstairs threads are next. They're many, so I'll have to post them in parts.
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No.103866
>>103857
The archive page is just miku.neocities.org now.
If anyone has comments/suggestions for it feel free to post them.
Also, I'm getting Upstairs 81-90 right now, so those are covered. I've also already got 91 and 92, so I can handle 91-100 too.
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No.103873
>>103866
>miku.neocities.org
Nice, and thank you again.
I think I have some of the first Upstairs and MM threads already saved, I'll check later today.
For now I'll do 30 to 60 of the Upstairs threads to cover all of the ".5" threads.
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No.103875
Also, make sure that you use .7z or .rar when compressing multiple threads in a singe file, as those formats support solid compression.
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No.103880
>>103873
Alright sounds good. Make sure to thank 🕥 too!
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No.103884
>>103880
If you're here, thank you too 🕥!
Okay, here's the list of the Upstairs threads:
Upstairs 1 >>1971
Upstairs 2 >>2975
Upstairs 3 >>6477
Upstairs 4 >>7897
Upstairs 5 >>9590
Upstairs 6 >>10998
Upstairs 7 >>12480
Upstairs 8 >>13647
Upstairs 9 >>14776
Upstairs 10 >>16055
Upstairs 11 >>17247
Upstairs 12 >>18432
Upstairs 13 >>19535
Upstairs 14 >>20639
Upstairs 15 >>21759
Upstairs 16 >>22609
Upstairs 17 >>23917
Upstairs 18 >>24690
Upstairs 19 >>25737
Upstairs 20 >>26909
Upstairs 21 >>27835
Upstairs 22 >>29007
Upstairs 23 >>30269
Upstairs 24 >>31052
Upstairs 25 >>32214
Upstairs 26 >>33388
Upstairs 27 >>34178
Upstairs 28 >>35319
Upstairs 29 >>36112
Upstairs 30 >>37198
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No.103885
Upstairs 31 >>38308
Upstairs 32 >>39074
Upstairs 33 >>40365
Upstairs 34 >>41477
Upstairs 35 >>42261
Upstairs 36 >>43408
Upstairs 37 >>44565
Upstairs 38 >>45660
Upstairs 39 >>46559
Upstairs 39.5 >>46909
Upstairs 40 >>47684
Upstairs 40.5 >>47999
Upstairs 41 >>48311
Upstairs 41.5 >>48992
Upstairs 42 >>49294
Upstairs 42.5 >>49595
Upstairs 43 >>50288
Upstairs 43.5 >>50622
Upstairs 44 >>50928
Upstairs 44.5 >>51243
Upstairs 45 >>51833
Upstairs 45.5 >>52174
Upstairs 46 >>52515
Upstairs 46.5 >>53247
Upstairs 47 >>53560
Upstairs 47.5 >>53997
Upstairs 48 >>54899
Upstairs 48.5 >>55299
Upstairs 49 >>56170
Upstairs 49.5 >>56805
Upstairs 50 >>57141
Upstairs 50.5 >>57607
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No.103886
Upstairs 51 >>58801
Upstairs 52 >>60077
Upstairs 53 >>60649
Upstairs 54 >>61437
Upstairs 55 >>62412
Upstairs 56 >>63681
Upstairs 57 >>64802
Upstairs 58 >>65642
Upstairs 59 >>66834
Upstairs 60 >>68039
Upstairs 61 >>69278
Upstairs 62 >>70692
Upstairs 63 >>71949
Upstairs 64 >>72805
Upstairs 65 >>74252
Upstairs 66 >>75416
Upstairs 67 >>76582
Upstairs 68 >>77839
Upstairs 69 >>78629
Upstairs 70 >>79725
Upstairs 71 >>80894
Upstairs 72 >>81990
Upstairs 73 >>83225
Upstairs 74 >>84243
Upstairs 75 >>85015
Upstairs 76 >>86041
Upstairs 77 >>87144
Upstairs 78 >>88333
Upstairs 79 >>89326
Upstairs 80 >>90153
Upstairs 81 >>91183
Upstairs 82 >>92320
Upstairs 83 >>93073
Upstairs 84 >>94126
Upstairs 85 >>95232
Upstairs 86 >>96039
Upstairs 87 >>96985
Upstairs 88 >>97757
Upstairs 89 >>98895
Upstairs 90 >>99720
Upstairs 91 >>100837
Upstairs 92 >>101902
Upstairs 93 >>102771*
(*Ongoing thread)
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No.104479
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No.104651
Is there a way to make the hide post option work in Chrome?
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No.105250
Archive for Upstairs 41-50.5
https://mega.nz/#!NR133CbR!gIEqeqISb87EQj8KMY8qRUgFw140uWHD2iI2cT5ugcI
>>104651
I tried this on the latest version of Chromium and it seems to work.
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No.105255
>>104479
>>105250
Added. I'll take care of 71-80 too. Also, are you going to link the archive on the board somewhere at some point?
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No.105258
>>105255
Thanks.
Yeah, I'll have it as a link in the board announcements. I'll add it in a bit.
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No.106796
I'll upload 51-60 tomorrow.
I'll do 1-10 and 11-20 next.
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No.106903
>>106796
That's good. I was thinking of getting the earlier threads, so I'll grab 21-30 and then 61-70.
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No.107262
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No.107623
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No.108686
Archive for Upstairs 11-20
https://mega.nz/#!xQMk0BiL!zmBMzmMmYsf478lsNbk2VzOPnoe84mpSja_TWHRmxc8
We're done with Upstairs.
I'll do the first 12 Miku Monday threads next.
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No.109631
We have a problem. Thanks to the new file deduplication, CTW no longer downloads the pictures or thumbnails from a thread. You only get a single HTML file with everything linking back to 8chan. So if you aren't online or if the file url ever changes you can't access the images in any way.
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No.109715
>>109631
Yeah. It still works for pictures uploaded before the file deduplication, but not ones uploaded after.
I'll try to find a solution for that.
Dollchan script also lets you download a thread with its images. It might still work, but I haven't tested it yet.
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No.111801
>>108686
I've got the 13-24 MM threads.
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No.111952
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No.112489
I'll do Miku Monday 25 to 35.
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No.114249
The main page isn't actually updating along with the threads themselves.
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No.114250
>>114249
Well they are now it seems.
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No.114251
>>114249
>>114250
/miku/ and other boards were 404 for a while a couple hours ago. Everything seems to be fine now.
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No.114423
An instance of Infinity Next called Nextchan has been set up by various anons after 16chan (Josh's instance of Infinity Next) was shut down. Josh is not involved in administrating this website, and the site's global rules are minimal. The imageboard software used on the website is open source, and due to its license, the AGPLv3, a public instance must release its source code. Deduplication works in Infinity Next without changing filenames, so the filenames are normal. The file size limit is currently 32MB and new file types such as OGG, MP3, WAV, and EPUB can be uploaded. There is also an overboard catalog with an autorefresh feature called overwatch. The software is in active development and there will inevitably be some bugs, report them in /next/. Come check it out at https://nextchan.org/
The official Nextchan IRC channel can be found on Rizon: #nextchan at irc.rizon.net
There is also an official GNU Social Nextchan account: https://freezepeach.xyz/nextchan
The gitgud source code repository can be found here: https://gitgud.io/nextchan/infinity-next and the github mirror of it is here: https://github.com/nextchan/infinity-next
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No.114912
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No.116535
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No.116539
>>116535
No. It isn't against the rules, but a mod is allowed to point out when somebody is samefagging if it was done to deliberately confuse or maliciously impersonate someone.
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No.119041
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No.119046
>>119041
Thank you /hover/!
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No.125054
Remember that time Jewsh complained that this board was taking forever to import into infinitynever?
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No.125058
>>125054
Yeah. His twitter post about /miku/'s thousands of pictures of Miku was originally going to be a banner. Since Next never happened, the banner became irrelevant, so we just kept the "over 24000 pictures" part on the board announcements instead.
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No.127759
Hello /miku/, owner of /jp/ here.
I am here because I wan to know if you are interested in a crossover advertising thing. Vocaloids are part of /jp/ culture and I'd like to point out this board, it's nice.
Let me know if it's ok for you.
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No.127785
>>127759
It's okay with me, thank you. I can add a link to /jp/, but it would be on a custom page (currently 'FAQ & Links', but I can do a separate one for boards). If that's fine with you, then sure.
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No.127909
>>127785
Yeah sure. Maybe a separate page is better though. I don't know.
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No.127936
>>127909
I've made a page for board links and added /jp/:
https://8ch.net/miku/links.html
It'll be shown at the announcements as soon as it updates.
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No.129879
Was a bump limit added again? The upstairs thread isn't being bumped anymore.
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No.130024
>>129879
Yes. I changed it recently when boards where being spammed.
I did it to prevent old threads that were close to the post limit from being bumped.
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No.130025
The bump limit was 750, I changed it to 700.
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No.130027
>>130025
That was only top boards though right? That is the only place I saw them. I don't think we would be in any danger of the spammer targeting us.
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No.130030
>>130027
Yes, but better safe than sorry.
We did get affected once when most boards were spammed with vaporeon by the same spammer.
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No.130032
>>130030
I guess. I was thinking is could be a problem with 8chan or something but only saw it here so that seemed unlikely. Thanks.
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No.130035
>>130032
I should have stated the change, but I forgot about it.
Also, sorry for replying late to your post. I went to the ophthalmologist today around that time and I missed your post.
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No.130036
>>130035
Oh, eye problems? Probably the wrong thread to discuss this but I hope it's nothing serious.
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No.130037
>>130036
Hopefully not. I might talk about in in the other thread tomorrow.
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No.130038
>>130037
Sure, if you want to that would be nice. Thanks again and goodnight!
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No.140294
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No.143438
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No.143734
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No.143736
>>143734
It was this site:
http://demo.illustration2vec.net/
Upload an image and it will guess what tags describe the image best.
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No.143864
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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No.149698
>>130025
Is this ever going to be changed or do you want to keep it at 700? For upstairs threads it isn't a problem, but for slower ones like the song threads it's hard to see when people post new stuff since they don't bump after 700.
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No.149704
>>149698
It isn't really hard for me. I just need to scroll if it's the song thread, it's always on first page.
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No.149705
>>149698
I've raised it to 725. Since those threads are slower, I think it would be best to make a new thread as soon as they reach the bump limit.
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No.151201
The custom board pages linked at the top are 404'd. Not sure if things are fully fixed with the board owner panel yet but I thought I'd mention it anyway if you hadn't noticed.
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No.151214
>>151201
Thank you for informing me.
The pages were lost, but I have backups. I'll restore them.
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No.154210
>>151214
Looks like the front page reverted again so that
>>153157
is looking like its the most recent post on that thread but that thread actually already reached the limit and the new thread disappeared from the front page and when I click on the link for it on the old thread it goes to a 404 page
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No.154212
>>154210
I think it's fixed now. The most recent Upstairs thread was 404'd too, so I fixed it.
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No.154213
>>154212
Yeah that's the thread I meant when I said it 404'd
This kinda thing is also happening on other boards and its not the first time that it happened here, so it could happen again
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No.154215
>>One caching server just crashed hard. You might need to recreate threads based on the instructions on the 404 page. Sorry.
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No.164476
>We are back! If you notice that a thread is not loading correctly, please report so our mods can post in it and fix it.
I will be going through the catalog and fixing threads. Since I can't fix threads that are locked I will report them here at the end.
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No.164512
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No.164542
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No.164561
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No.164565
>>164476
>>164512
>>164526
>>164542
>>164561
Thank you. I'll fix these threads one by one.
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No.164593
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No.165890
We did not agree on participating, so we would like it if /miku/ was removed from the event. Thank you.
>>>/sudo/44368
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No.165891
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No.165892
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No.167798
>>165892
Someone nominated /miku/ for the hunger games thing on /sudo/ again
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No.167799
>>165892
Yeah, >>>/sudo/46213 nominated you guys. I won't add you in until you approve since you didn't want to in the past.
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No.167822
So we are at Page 25, one more thread and threads will start falling off the edge, is that right?
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No.169178
I have a question:
is there a reason for announcing reports?
this post >>166988 in question.
4chan doesn't do this and is even a bannable offense.
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No.169270
>>167822
Yes.
>>169178
I had received a report among the lines of "Why is this allowed?".
I was not announcing my own report, but addressing it.
I normally ignore meaningless reports.
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No.169334
>>169270
it seems wrong to even mention it though.
do the users need to know their thread was reported? leaving a post like that sort of stains a completely legitimate thread.
if you really feel the need to respond to reports, wouldn't it be better done in this thread?
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No.170317
>>169270
>Yes.
I had a proposition I wanted to make. it's a continuation of this idea: >>84112 ; >>84528
I propose the creation of a "Small Thread Archive"- this would come in the form of a thread on the board containing small and unused threads that will be made into pictures. The conditions, I propose, for adding a thread to this archive are:
1. The thread must have less than 15 replies (easily visible from the catalog).
2. The thread must have received no new replies in the last 6 months
Additional guidelines to how the Archive should be organized include: A thread made into pictures should be able to fit one post. If there were links in the thread, they will be provided in the post for the thread along the picture(s). If there were YouTube videos embedded, they will be provided as links. Spoilers should be revealed in the picture(s).
If anyone wishes to use a thread after it is deleted and added to the archive, they are free to make it again, or recreate it. The picture of the thread can even be used as the OP, or a post link to the post in the Archive can be included in the OP.
To avoid any mistake, some reasonable time could be provided after a thread is added to the archive and actually deleted. Maybe 1 month. In which time, if the thread gets a new reply its picture form from the Archive should be deleted.
Sometimes exceptions to the 6 months rule can be made if a thread has seemingly exhausted its potential. For example this thread >>158278 is likely to not see any use unless someone comes and decides to use it as a general Photoshop requests thread.
This would give more incentive for old threads to see more use, if they have potential and the posters don't want to see them deleted. It would also remind OPs to not abandon their threads and provide additional content.
Since all this obviously requires someone's time, I volunteer to organize, make and maintain the archive thread.
I await thoughts and opinions first.
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No.171091
>>169270
>>169334
>I normally ignore meaningless reports.
>"Why is this allowed?"
sounds like a friend compaining to another friend, not a genuine "broke the rules" report
but if you want to ignore this issue you could just say so.
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No.171198
>>169334
>>171091
I won't do it again.
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No.173883
>>169270
It's past 30 days for the threads in the Small Thread Archive. It's your choice what to do.
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No.175685
You've been invited to /late/'s Halloween 2017 movie night!
Three films - plus a mystery feature - have been planned. You can find more information about the films on the invite and a complete schedule with converted times on the timetable.
As a friend of /late/ we are handing you a special invite. If you wish to spread the word and invite others, please use the general invite instead. An informational with additional information has been attached for use outside of 8chan.
The time table is subject to change: other communities are free to join the movie night and take a spot in in the Dusk Hawk Block. If you wish to sign up yourself, please provide us with the necessary information:
- The name (if any) of your segment;
- The estimated stream duration;
- The starting and end time.
We hope to see you during Halloween!
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No.177307
>>175685
Thank you very much for the invitation /late/!.
I hope everyone had a fun Halloween night!
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No.185863
The 'board links' link in the blotter does not work, it gives a 404. Can you fix it?
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No.185866
>>185863
Fixed. Thank you for letting me know.
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No.190987
what's up with mikudb.moe?
it was working fine, then they took it offline for a few months for "construction" (?) and once they brought it back, it was working fine for a few months (2-3) then they took it down again for more construction (?)
anyone have an idea when it is coming back? this time I'm just going to mirror all of it
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No.194416
>>190987
Almost certainly maintenance. Pity their social media aren't too active.
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No.195113
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No.195728
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No.199790
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No.199826
>>199790
I can't believe it! it's back! (even tho it lost a lot of stuff on the road)
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No.202886
All the custom board pages linked at the top of the page except for the board links one are dead. I'm not sure if they can be restored of not.
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No.203246
>>202886
Thank you for notifying me.
These could be restored pretty easily, but I do keep backups in case they get deleted or lost.
I don't know why do they keep 404ing, but it's similar to the old thread issue.
Sorry for taking too long to fix this.
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No.203331
>>203246
Thanks for fixing them!
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No.203333
>>203331
You're welcome.
I've copied the rules to this post: >>13324 in case it 404s again.
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No.204650
>>195113
it says the domain is registered and functional. So it was likely just maintenance or something, where the host made it inaccessible to users until it was done.
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No.217721
>>>/hover/1242
This CSS works pretty well for christmas, you can maybe modify it a bit and use it or parts of it? Check it out and see what you think of it?
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No.219258
Here's a /miku/ highlights collage I made for 2018
It has a lot of the pics related to pinnacle moments of the year for me
If anyone be asking where has the time gone, well just show them this collage, now you know
Maybe it would also be fun if others also made pic collages like this
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No.219445
>>219258
That's pretty cool 🕦, thanks! I don't keep track of things that well so it would be hard to make one of my own.
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No.222349
>>164593
I found that most threads past page 8 are going 404 again. I fixed a few up to page 10 excluding these:
https://sys.8ch.net/mod.php?/miku/res/168364.html
https://sys.8ch.net/mod.php?/miku/res/157450.html
https://sys.8ch.net/mod.php?/miku/res/161373.html
https://sys.8ch.net/mod.php?/miku/res/153028.html
https://sys.8ch.net/mod.php?/miku/res/155187.html
https://sys.8ch.net/mod.php?/miku/res/148125.html
https://sys.8ch.net/mod.php?/miku/res/149140.html
https://sys.8ch.net/mod.php?/miku/res/150196.html
But I think there is little point in doing so. Last time they were like this, because the site got hacked and restored. I like to call this event: The Hackening. This time, unless there was some other event I'm not aware of, they got like this on their own. So if old threads just go 404 after a while, even after everything was fixed last time, there is no point in fixing them over and over again. There is little interest in those threads and if anyone wants to use a specific thread they can fix it on their own or ask for mod assistance if it's a locked thread. At least this is what I think.
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No.224191
I love the Gurren Lagann flags. Patrician taste.
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No.225115
Hello /miku/! I don't lurk very often but I was wondering if you could help me out, I'm making a CD themed around Miku obsession, I wanted to know if anyone had any ideas for what I should add. Basically I'm looking for songs that a. Say Miku a lot in the lyrics or b. Reference Miku herself in some way, preferably promoting fanaticism.
Here's what I have so far:
https://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm18187886
https://youtu.be/OuLZlZ18APQ
https://youtu.be/AwHvSGeGf3g
https://youtu.be/ie3x2dxZ-4k
https://youtu.be/kvnIFo3xMfY
https://youtu.be/HqcVN56kZAs
https://youtu.be/NocXEwsJGOQ
It's not exactly enough for a CD, any help/ideas would be appreciated!
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No.225116
>>225115
Oh gosh I'm such a baka. I posted here accidentally because I was looking at the rules before posting…
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No.240331
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No.240332
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No.240333
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No.240354
My board is also back
>>>/hover/
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No.240390
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No.240391
>>240390
What a year it turned out to be…
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No.240392
>>240390
Awesome! I recognize a lot from it.
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No.241886
Here's the new catgirl demo; https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZJmylkZ7MtXvSB8JkBP9SnNsyAGd7zAUBuV
I fixed some bugs and glitches so this is currently the most updated version
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No.241892
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No.244246
Hello, /miku/. I just wanted to let you know about https://kind.moe/kind/index.html . I'd appreciate it if you'd take the time to drop in and say hello. It's not really devoted to the discussion of topics pertaining to this board, but I think kindness is or should be a virtue valued by all, irrespective of our differences!
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No.244689
>>244246
Sorry for the late reply, but sure. I'll check it out.
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No.246011
If I was looking for a specific senpai that hangs here
how might I find them?
I dont know the correct spelling for their tripcode…
-tubbaks?
if your here, senpai
tag me
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No.246012
>>246011
!a22Tubbaks
anyone know this anon-senpai?
searching for a friend
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No.249090
is the site dead? no images load
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No.249092
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No.249093
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No.249095
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No.249099
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