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Share your daily struggles and other art-related feels here.
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>>10425
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No.15026
>watching gundam the origin
>realize I'll never lay a finger in something that will be even remotely close to the shit the people who worked on it have pooped
>end
>end
>end
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No.15027
>haven't drawn in a few weeks
>sit down to work on some quick sketches
>can't get the first one to turn out right
>get frustrated and move on
>the second one turns out way better and I spend a little more time on it
feels okay, man
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No.15028
>>15026
Th-the two cakes, Anon. Think about the two cakes.
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No.15029
>>14998
This. It's fun, it's like drawing yourself fanart.
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No.15036
>>15028
Shit for everyone, bro…
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No.15043
Well frens, it turns out that there's a good chance I may be color blind as people are telling me I keep mistaking greens and purples for blue.
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No.15045
>>15026
>>15028
>>15036
You trash is someone else's treasure. There's some art starved people out there who can't even draw due to their lack of skills, time or energy. You've got the power to turn their world around with your scribbles. Your lewds could lead to someone having a bad day's fap. You can connect to more people than you'd ever imagine if you just shared your art. Even if it's objectively shit, even if you don't think it will stand the test of time, as long as you keep drawing, showing, listening and improving, you're going to make it. We're all gonna make it. Life is not just about passing on your genes, we can leave behind much more than just dna through our art and all that jazz.
Loomis didn't say art with a pencil, he said fun with a pencil. You either have fun, or you don't and it's not worth it. This is the kind of life we all gotta strive for living.
>>15043
Use it to your own advantage. There are theories that Monet was actually going slowly blind and that's why he depicted the world around him like he did. John Paul Larkin was afraid that his stutter would not allow him to do what he loved the most, to sing, and yet by using his limitation Scatman John was born. Who knows what sorts of things you can come up with if you do not give up your art.
I admire all drawfags, even the deviantart autists who make pancake stack fetish porn. Even if their art is shit, even if they will never improve, they're putting their stuff out there. It takes balls to keep on getting criticized, day after day, with your life problems piling on top of each other, only to take out your pencil and paper, your drawing tablet, your mouse and Paint.NET, every time you can, just to make something that you want to or that you know people will like you for doing. It's 10% skill, 90% power of will. It's now or never. Don't live life with the regret of not having even tried it once.
Go be great.
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No.15046
>>14916
Talent exists. Practice is key to perfection. But neither matter. Your art is the only thing that matters. Your projects, feelings and products are all that matter. If you need to cut corners to keep your vision intact, you will do so. If you can't draw a line straight, use workarounds. Beauty is objective, but reaching that beauty is a personal journey. When you see someone that is leagues ahead of you, just remember that once he also had the same feelings you do for people around him. Even those with natural talents, undeniable in their existence, have felt like the worst of the worst, the scum of the Earth, 0/10, some of you guys are alright, don't come to art school tomorrow. Be terrible at your art, be consistently so, and slowly, steadily, you'll rise. And rise you will if you keep drawing. Listen to what your detractors have to say more than those trying to squeeze art out of you, the more they hate you the more they have to scrutinize your shit to tell you it's shit. Stay angry and stay mad at people for being better than you and use that anger to show 'em. Show 'em you don't need natural talent and hours of practice to make something good.
On a side note, you're not jealous, you're envious. Jealousy implies ownership, Envy implies lack.
>>14937
Sit down and try both, even other methods not previously discussed. Which one feels the most fun to you? That is all you need to know. Some people get a kick out of drawing in the sand.
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No.15050
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No.15051
>>15050
That's the spirit, sister, the Board Owner must put it as the board theme.
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No.15053
>>14974
>Motivation
Motivation only propels you over short term. Ideally you want to make drawing daily a habit. Once you do, it will take more effort to not draw than to draw. It takes two months to truly ingrain most habits. However, it will be noticeably easier to make yourself do something after initial two weeks, and every day will be easier than the previous one.
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No.15072
I'm fairly certain most of my lack of progress comes from the mental drain of the rest of my life. I'm miserable, angry, and disillusioned with the world and instead of using that to make art I can't even muster the strength to persist past 45 minutes of frustrated scribbling before the urge to smash everything around me takes hold. These days it feels like my connection to the most basic forms of enjoyment has been severed. The learning process used to mean something to me and mistakes were a chance to better myself, but now, every little thing makes me want to explode.
The worst part is with this, so often I'm being brain-drained by every other task the "superiors" want, that I never know how shallow and pointless my life is until I attempt to do something for myself. It is a dark, gut-wrenching, hate.
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No.15079
>brother is artfag on instagram
>knows that I draw and encourages me to post art here
>doesn't know I almost only draw softcore porn and sometimes even fetishes
I wonder if I should just own up to it, like Crumb who liked strong ladies with thighs (though I'm not a legendary cartoonist).
Bigger problem is that it would also make a link (my art) between my life IRL and what I do online. Not that I would use my name though. /blogpost
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No.15081
>>15053
Agreed, If you only do it when you feel motivated you lose out on learning the ability to get into it from any state of mind. Habitual practice grinds and polishes away the mental friction that leads to procrastination. Ass you get better you also want to start concentrating on certain areas of improvement through "deliberate practice"
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No.15082
Ok, so i haven't had a lot of time to draw as of the past year because of school amd whatnot. Coming back to it now, I'm not really enjoying it as much as before. I'm also much worse (go figure). Should I stick with it or what? Sorry to bother you with this.
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No.15083
>>15082
Maybe you kinda forgot why you drew before: what did you use to draw?
Also, you can always keep drawing for fun.
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No.15084
>>15083
Mostly weebshit and capeshit sadly. I did do more professional things occasionally and started branching out more and trying a bit more of a rennaisance style. Then the new school year hit and here we are.
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No.15085
>>15081
That girl reminds me eerily of Franken Fran
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No.15086
>>15084
school is a soul-and wallet-sucking meme, hopefully you don't end up regretting it for the rest of your life but you'd be an outlier if so tbqph
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No.15087
>>15085
>Franken Fran
Getting real ancientfag in here. What have we been doing with our lives these past 12 years or whatever
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No.15088
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No.15091
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No.15092
>>15091
Time to panic
https://www.thiswaifudoesnotexist.net/
Seriously though, I'll be more scared when they start making something else than moeblobs
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No.15096
>>15091
No. It's an equivalent of bank of images, where you can get different variation of initial image selected from the grid. All you can get are generic moeblobs, catgirls, and an occasional elf. It's very generic. It even misses basic staples like delicious brown, tomboys, girls in glasses, and so on. >>15092 is slightly better in the waifu generation aspect, but it just looks like faces are made from an array of different features modified to blend together. Again, it's very generic and some images are blended very poorly.
Most present day AIs are not very smart. I suspect that it will take a few decades before AIs can realistically compete with humans in anything but a very narrow ranges of tasks. There is still plenty of time to learn how to draw.
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No.15098
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No.15100
>>15096
I think you are underestimating technology. A decade is plenty of time nowadays, all we have to do is grasp a single concept and everything will explode in improvement.
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No.15102
>>15100
Things will definitely move forward and accelerate with time, but there many things holding AI back. Things like amounts of learning data, current technological and manufacturing limitations, money, logistics, and society's attitudes.
Google and Microsoft have piles of money and more data than anyone else, and even they are struggling with AIs. Once they do, one instance when AI fucks up is enough to set back the implementation of it. Most futurists and future technologies companies tend to exaggerate rate of innovation, completely ignoring the limiting factors.
Even if sufficiently powerful and cost efficient AIs are created, drawing will be pretty low on the priority list. Most people who draw do it for fun, and companies who need cheap art can just outsource work to third world countries if needed. You also need to factor in fact that as more and more things will be machine made and designed, people might want to get something that was created by human craftsmen. Some of that shift is already happening. There is a revival of portrait painting, woodworking, and furniture restoration.
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No.15108
>depress
>hurt
>tired
>regret
>bored
>lonely
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No.15109
Drawing has led me nowhere. I don't want to do anything anymore except go to sleep and die.
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No.15125
>tfw wageslaving
It feels good now that I've been making a pretty hefty sum of money in a decent job, but I only managed to sit down and draw two times in the past month. Then when the weekends come, I'm usually too exhausted to do anything except read or play vidya. Maybe I need to have some introspection about what I really want in life.
>>15079
>A "Tremendous Ass
what a fucking king
On a more serious notes, you could try drawing other stuff, like landscapes, cityscapes, or wildlife. I think it's good to branch out and draw a variety of different stuff, not just so that your skill can develop in different ways, but also because it can become tiresome to draw the same subject over and over again. Maybe that way you can build a portfolio of stuff that you're more willing to show to people who know you personally.
>>15109
Fuck if I don't know this feel. I hoped that as I become a better artist, I would also find myself expressing new feelings in a new way. But now drawing feels more like a chore, and it doesn't bring me any sort of satisfaction like I thought it would.
Although, nothing really brings me satisfaction anymore
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No.15129
>>15125
Yeah, I think that's what I'll do. It's not even like I don't enjoy drawing landscapes or wildlife either.
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No.15130
Are there any actually good artists on this board? Honestly, I don't understand you faggots, I've been dropping by here every now and then for the past 3 years and it's always been the same moaning and groaning about not being able to improve or whatever. Seriously? I was worse off than everyone else when I first came here, it took me like a week or two to get anatomy down and I moved on to more important things, am I a fucking genius or is everyone some kind of pussy? If you have the tools to get something done and you were shown the methods how to, then you really should be able to do everything pro artists do. It's either you're afraid of success and graduating from these beginner stages or you're not giving yourselves challenging enough goals, if you did then you would improve with every single piece, not when you reach some mythical "10 000 hours" mark.
Let me make it clear, so you understand:
You literally don't have to learn anatomy or landscapes or other boring chores for years.
If you're serious about making the art that you want to make then go and make it, and if not then do something more useful with your time and end your suffering, if you can't learn anything, at least learn when to quit.
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No.15131
>>15130
Youre probably misunderstanding most anon's lack of self esteem for their works with genuine lack of skill. Artistsautists are never happy.
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No.15132
>>15130
I think I've improved proportionally to what I've put in, which isn't nearly enough. Still, I've improved from where I'd started to the point where I believe that it hasn't been a total loss-even if it has been a total (self imposed) slog.
I've worked off of most of the "canon" material to one degree or another hosted here and promoted on /ic/ and I'm not disappointed with the results, I know I've failed the material moreso than it could've possibly failed me. Without hesitation I'd still recommend just about any of it (excluding perhaps Bridgman) to anyone looking to get a solid foundation even if, after going on five years of this board, I haven't "made it" myself just yet.
>it took me like a week or two to get anatomy down and I moved on to more important things, am I a fucking genius
Maybe you are, but when you post some Egyptian guy's unrelated anime piece it's a hard sell. I'm not alone in wanting to see where your three years have taken you nor will I be alone in encouraging you to continue working and improving.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEnYvYYtjEo
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No.15135
>>15130
Maybe it's not the same people who are groaning and moaning. That's the thing with anonymity, you can't really tell who's behind the posts.
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No.15137
>>15135
Honestly I'd be surprised if there's more than 10 people here, there's a good chance most all of us are represented in this thread or the previous threads like it. I'm as guilty of whining as much as anyone else when I have no cause to. We're all our worst enemies with this stuff, it's just a shame it's more cathartic to complain about our own bad behavior or misfortunes than it is easy to correct it or surmount them.
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No.15138
>diagnosed schizoid
>trying to get into art
>gain some artist friends
>find out they draw weird fetish shit
>have to use every fiber of my being from exploding and telling them my sheer disgust and hatred towards them
>want to just slit my fucking neck and scream from the discomfort I now get from being near them
>almost no current year artists aren't weird perverts
Gonna have to down a whole bottle of modafinil and bupropion for this
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No.15139
>>15138
What kinda fetishes? Sometimes I worry about mine and fomenting hatred and disgust, because that sucks to provoke such feelings in people.
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No.15141
>>15139
Don't worry about making a schizo retard like me upset, anon. Most people will react like normal adults to fetishism.
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No.15142
>>15141
To be fair I don't think we'll find many normal adults here anyway.
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No.15147
All the talk in other boards about the site dying really worries me, I don't want to lose all the resources that this board has And also you anons
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No.15149
>>15147
Grab the resources/links you want now. Ctrl+A, Ctrl+C the recource hub and paste it into a text document.
This could be it, frens. If board is kill in the next few days, I hope to see some of you again somewhere.
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No.15150
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No.15151
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No.15152
I don't really wanna go back to /ic/, I'll end up shitposting all the time and never get anything done.
>>15149
>This could be it, frens. If board is kill in the next few days, I hope to see some of you again somewhere.
I'll never forget you guys. We're all gonna make it.
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No.15153
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No.15154
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No.15155
>>15154
third time is the charm I guess. who /posting issues/ here?
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No.15214
What's wrong with the webring?
Come home pencil man
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No.15531
>>12687
I consider stopping. I don't improve. I barely put time in it because it's very time constuming. It's not good enough to earn money with it. I don't want to draw commissions because I'm worried that I won't be reliable. Yet, I get some attention at least.
It would make sense to stop, but I just can't. I'm also too old to ever get fame as some young pretentious indie artist.
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