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>>79603

Agreed.

>>79921

My third eye has a sensation that is almost always felt except outside of eating foods, doing something with too much emotional investment, and working at my physical peak. I got this from concentration meditation while trying to be as still as possible and focusing my awareness in this area. I have lucid dreamed before and even done with intent in high school a couple of times. I think I'm gonna keep at these things because even though they leave me energetically inferior, I find the experiences very pleasant. It's what keeps my faith held in God in place honestly. The proof I have been asking for was here all along. Still haven't achieved oneness I think, but personal experience hasn't made me lost faith in that there is something more to life than what we're being told.

>>119733

Everything is true up to a point. There are different perspectives indeed, but what is the truth that they are pointing to is the question I would ask. I don't because I simply don't care, but if I did care, at some point, one must take serious consideration for their opposition in order to understand where they are coming from. Moral of the story is that humans, the majority understand that something is wrong with home. They are looking for answers because they already know the truth and are refusing to accept the true answer. There is an objective reality and an objective non-reality. Basically, I believe there is a lie going on mixed in with truths. What is I cannot say because I haven't witnessed it first hand. But all these things show that the human heart isn't dead. It's just been enslaved. We do have the man power to create Heaven on Earth and the intellects to formulate it, but people are too busy being singular and complete, on their own islands. Never was there such a thing and still is not, but the establishment is what brought such individualistic extremes into fruition with their ways. Thus they substitute something they had all along for things, ideals, beliefs, and causes all to get a sense of life because they have all but ruined themselves from fear of the consequence of doing righteousness and saying NO to corruption. God is real. That's all that needs to be said. Anything else is semantics. Where are the majority of people's heads at truly? In the semantics.

I'm what you can call a mundane, what should I read first to grasp that subject?

I read the CIA's Gateway Project, should I use the tapes created by the Monroe Institute?

>>120393

incidentally something that may interest you was just posted on mewch

>>120395

mind sending me a link? im looking around for it

I can't imagine or visualize for shit. When I tried to imagine myself out of my body I couldn't accurately simulate my senses outside of my body and for most of it I was visualizing myself in 3rd person from my body. Is there any good tips on imagination practice other than "keep trying to visualize stuff"?

>>121143

Just keep trying. There is no other way. But you will get better over time, I assure you. It can't be any other way. Your visualization and concentration faculties are like muscles and you must train them regularly to grow them. But don't do too much too often since it's not easy work and it can drain you pretty fast. Just like working out at the gym, start easy and work your way up.

Also don't visualize yourself in 3rd person. Visualize from first person only as if you are actually there. Ultimately it must be as real as possible, with as much details and senses involved as possible, and you must "be" there, alas see through your eyes in the ego perspective.

>>79672

This is the most useful and reassuring advice I've seen yet. I wasn't sure if what I was doing was actually helping or if it was placebo.

>>80034

Writing is tricky, it's susceptible to distortion from your subconscious. Try something simpler next time.

Can someone provide input? Having some experiences lately and would like some feedback.

i have been practicing AP/RV for a few years with very little success ( it has happened, just not when I try the hardest )

Mega quick backstory:

> sexual trauma as a child / multiple sources [7-17]

> religious cognitive dissonance as a child [ 5-20+]

> teenage nightmares led to self-imposed sleep deprivation & hermit-ism, anxiety [ 15-27 ]

> "i don't belong here" but not willing/wanting to kill self [ 13 - 33 ]

> adult night terrors / sleep paralysis led to smoking weed [ weed @ 27 ]

> no more nightmares/terrors/sleep paralysis OR DREAMS [ current day @ 35 ]

Current day, I can't remember a dream 99 times out of 100.

and that 1 is usually pointless.

However, last few months, I am not depriving myself of sleep, I am daily weed smoker. dream states are hard to recall, however, the last few weeks I have been waking with the impression or vague recollection of being in a meeting / gathered with a group of people.

no emotions stir, as with previous night terrors etc ( they would set me weird for days some times )

I also feel physically tired / like I didn't get much rest, even though I slept undisturbed for 8+ hours.

Anyone else experiencing this lately?

>>122141

oh my goodness, how could I forget the most pestersome ingredient in my life of misery

>MIGRAINES

< started ~ 15, wasn't until Yoga about age 30-31 that I got a grip on them.

>>119734

>>119735

>ask yourself why you can feel the ground moving under your feet while you are inside of a massive cruise ship gently rocking in the ocean but you can't feel how the earth moves when spinning around at a zillion miles an hour

<ask yourself why turning a ball in your hand for 24 hours just to accomplish a single revolution is slow as fuck

>that's why astronauts train underwater

<where else are you suppose to train when you're trying to simulate free-floating?

>ask yourself why it's called a space ship.

>space

>ship

>ask yourself why it's called an astro-naut.

>nautical miles. ocean.

<Why do people use sports analogies? Because bballers rule the world. Charles Barkley Shut Up and Jam Gaiden is based on true events.

>ask yourself where amelia earhart went when she disappeared trying to fly "around" the world

<she crashed

>ask yourself why peter pan and the pirates ride flying pirate ships in space to the giant floating island of neverland

<it's disney

>ask yourself why her name is sailor moon

<it's anime

>ask yourself why the bible metions the waters above and below

<it's the bible

>ask yourself why the bible mentions the firmament

<bible

>look up the antarctic treaty

<tactically advantageous position with equal reach to any part of the equator. Powerful position.

>what a coincidence that you can only ever see one side of the moon because its dark side is always facing away from us.

>what a coincidence that the moon just happens to fit over the sun during an eclipse even though it is said that they are massively different in size and distance from us. what are the chances that they are just the right sizes and distances from each other AND US, to appear exactly the same size in our sky?

<Likely the reason that life on Earth exists at all. It's not the dark side either. Also, your last sentence was redundant.

>why it is called a hemi-sphere

>half of a sphere = dome

<Yes that's how words work. It's half of a sphere so we call it half of a sphere. Half a sphere =/= a dome, unless it's hollow.

>think about why the ocean looks blue when the sun shines through it. think about how the sky is also blue, and how very ancient antarctic ice is also a strange blue color. makes sense? and troll science bro's with big fancy pieces of paper from the establishment claim "its rayleigh scattering, and the sky isn't actually blue it just looks blue but it isn't because it's just reyliegh scattering just trust us"

<https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/blue-sky/en/ yeah seems like it. blue is shortwave, like how shortwave radio doesn't go through buildings but longwave does.

>every single image of earth from space release by nasa has always been a composite image. they will never release a true non-edited picture of earth from space.

<often but not all the time. why is it that 7 different cameras creates 7 different pictures? One looks more red, the other more blue, and still another seems to change the very proportions of people! It's a fucking camera.

>if there are as many infinite stars and galaxies as they say there are, the entire sky wouldn't have any visible individual stars because in terms of pixels on a tv screen the stars in the sky would take up every pixel of space that there is in the sky. the entire sky would always glow white and there wouldn't be a place in the sky to look at that was empty. at any distance you would eventually run in to another star so no matter how far away from the perspective of earth there wouldn't be any black sky at night.

<You underestimate the magnitude of space that exists between everything. If the sun were the size of a soccer ball, pluto would be in another city… or was it state?

I'm done at this point but these people are fucking retarded. Go outside and play a sport or something.

>>122180

Reading that autistic post gave me hyper autism. Is this what is has come to? Modern people can't even write a proper post anymore? This looks like some retarded lunatic spilled his mental diarrhea all over the place.

>>122180

You are a hypokinetic nigger braincel faggot cock vacuum with no two rocks to start a spark with and compensate for your small penis and low test with special snowflake wizard larp.

kys

A huge list of bullshit requires a reply with brevity. I hit it point by point. Your misplaced grievances on the state of affairs is a red herring and misdirection from the actual issue of wizard larp mental illness.

hol up

people in this thread be sayin the ocean be blue an shit

nigga pls i live fiftty feet from the ocean shit looks green as fuck to me

ya'll niggas never even seen the ocean?

i mean maybe the carribean is blue water but shit, ocean is usually green from algae an shiet

and ya'll niggas sayin the earth is flat just smh how the fuck that even work if i've been on planes around the world when you go in one direction you end up in the same place

don't know if ya'll niggas be retards or mentally ill but get help for real smdfh fams

>>79672

Is this why I feel like I have air coming out of the top of my head?

>>123532

No, that's cuz you're a airhead :^)

>>123558

good one!

Is it energy though? I always have a pressure in the middle of my forehead that sometimes throbs. After meditating and concentrating on a flashing light it then begins to throb and the pressure builds up. I can then imagine energy coming out of the top of my head and then I start to feel that. It's amazing and it has changed my life now I just need help cultivating.

>>123604

What do you think?

Venezuela's who don't even know I exist are dying! We need to not help them! Hurry up guys! We need to hurry up and not help these people who never aknowledged anyone else's pain, because they are now in pain, and therefore there is no reason to help them. Just enjoy the show.

>>107985

I'm right there with you anon

What's the best way for attaining a sort of dream-based state of consciousness where I can explore sensation to my five senses?

I feel like hearing and seeing is very mainstay, but smell/taste/touch is difficult to say the very least. Almost as if I have to focus more just to feel a breeze.

>>125746

Practice, practice, practice.

You want to develop perception, but in order to train the senses you have to practice "visualization" first. I put that word between quotation marks because I mean it in the broad multi-sensory sense.

>>108108

This is going to sound very degenerate and sort of off topic from AP itself as it were. But as to your idea of mixing two drugs to enhance effects, have you ever mixed the dissociative DXM with weed?

It's an incredible combination from what I can remember from nearly a decade ago. The weed helps your mind's creative impulses as you said while the dissociative DXM kind of focuses your thoughts into the rabbit hole. Give it a try seriously if you want your mind to travel. Both the substances seem to synergistically enhance each other. The only issue is going out to buy cough syrup to "get high." Just make sure to get the pure stuff with only ONE ingredient.

>>79585

>imagine it, it's just that simple!

Any autist can close their eyes, imagine their being encapsulated in a thought form, and imagine it moving outside their body. It's called pretending, using your imagination.

>>126091

Sorry to be so cynical, I dont mean to discredit the idea of AP, I've had an "out of body" experience before, but it has to be more complex than that.

>>126091

>>126092

It's more than just playing pretend, but that really is how you start it, at least for me. You can tell that it isn't just a dream when you start examining yourself.

>>126104

That's it. Even a lot of sources and books (from the library) tell you that you start out practicing by imagination. Eventually once you get good at going into trance and you get good control of your mind and toughts, you will break the barrier and your consciousness will shift out of your body into a real Astral Projection.

Don't let the idea of "just pretending" stop you from doing the work.

>>126107

So, it goes as follows.

Imagining->meditating->entering a trance->becoming aware of the trance

I get everything up to that point, but I guess I just haven't managed to quantify consciousness entirely, because you speak of breaking through a consciousness barrier. What part of me exactly is leaving my body?

>>126114

>What part of me exactly is leaving my body?

None. You just become aware from another point in existence, outside of your body. Nothing really leaves your body. You merely shift your awereness and for that imagination is a great exercise. Normally your awareness in focussed in your head, but you can shift the focus and then it is as if you are outside of the body and free of it. But you have no body then…hence why astral travelers can make up any body they like. Your awareness forms a thoughtform body for your new focal point of awareness so that you think you have a body, but really you dont. That's why your hands melt when you look at them while astral traveling.

>>126117

Interesting. How will you be able to tell the difference between AP and, well let's say dreaming? Would one be able to perform experiments to test if it's legit ap or not?

>>126125

Once you experience it, you know. It’s like night and day.

>>126130

Okay anon {•~•}

>>126137

Thanks for the insight. Would one be able to interact with the outside world while AP?

I must be having so much trouble with AP because I have never done it in a past life. New skills are hardcore.

>>79585

Wait! The only thing i'm concerned of is that "evil entity" shit like every horror story has where there's some scary ass shadow monster from fuck knows where that'll posess their body or some shit.

Can I meet an extra dimensiona cutie instead?

>>133335

I forgot that i'm in an elated state of mania after discovering what a centillion is (10^303) and I feel so excited right now.

>>133335

>>133336

This is some peculiar shit posting, but I'm glad for the bump as this is one of my favorite threads

>>114144

So I can also use this to enhance my awareness of smaller and more subtle details of reference pictures, better visual acuity/enhancement and better visualizations of what I want so I can become a better drawfag?

>>133337

No, seriously. That "you're guest here. Not a god" comment sounds rather intimidating, just robbing me of power and agency.

>>133345

The fuck? You trying to read my mind? Stop hustling.

I saw my reply from 3 years ago and wondered if there's any one as woke as me nowadays.

>>133351

What the fuck are you saying?

>>133345

>No, seriously. That "you're guest here. Not a god" comment sounds rather intimidating, just robbing me of power and agency.

What the fuck are you saying?

>>79585

>Why you have taken it upon yourself to discourage everyone from the study of occultism? >There is no harm in it and it prepares the way for the attainments.

>thers is no harm in it

you have no idea

I've only managed to do it once successfully but every time I try I have the feeling that something grabs me and tries to pull me down. Is that normal or is there a way that doesn't feel like I'm being dragged to some sort of underworld?

>>133420

Try to let yourself be dragged. I've been dragged down to places before and it has never been a bad experience.

Always remember that your emotional state is your body out there. Keep calm and in control of your emotions and you have all the tools you need.

If in doubt, practice emotional transmutation. Try to feel different emotions at will, change a spontaneous emotion into another, etc.

That skill will come in handy in your daily life and in the afterlife as well.

Advice for everyone on this thread: read Robert Bruce's Out of Body trilogy.