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>>135697

Do you think its ineffectiveness could have been foreseen? Or are all solitary traditions a leap of faith?

>>135697

The thing about this vampire thing is, where is everyone? The threads are filled with people yet there seem to be only like 4 guys or so left who even talk about it. It's dead silent in that regard.

>>135696

>>135697

dagothposter go back

I've abstained from participating in this further thus far but I may as well respond to this >>135657 since I'm partially responsible for that having been presented.

>a man can make a mistake

True enough, we're all wrong about things all the time. But when you ask

>why are you so hung up on that

it's because when you're THAT wrong on something to such an absurd degree it's hard to take you seriously, especially when the folks ITT that know him have said he's basically a loon.

>how do you know they didn't do it

No, you've got it backwards. This guy >>135665 already gave a decent enough answer (also menstruation isn't exclusive to humans so did the Jews cause menstruation in all the other animals that do it too?) but that's beside the point. It's called the Burden of Proof, look it up. You don't get to assert something that outlandish and then insist others disprove it or else it could be true. He hasn't even shown it's a possibility, just saying it doesn't make it so. Otherwise I can say the Jews created the moon to oppress the ocean and keep it from consuming the world and since you can't disprove that then it's totally reasonable and possible (when it obviously isn't). I'm open to any view but being open-minded doesn't mean you have to believe everything without justification. It's clear that guy doesn't actually have a reason for believing that beyond delusion, otherwise he would have presented it already instead of just scoffing at others for not buying it and thinking he's somehow special because of that, that's exactly what a chuunibyou does. Judging by what you were saying here >>135696 you seem to have a balanced enough perspective to be able to freely explore different views, examining them without accepting them unless you have reason to. I'd like to think I'm the same way (although I'm not perfect so there's times I fail at it too), so I understand where you're coming from, but there are times where dismissing something outlandish is the right move, heuristically. Doing that helps you rule out stupid options out of the innumerable different possibilities; we're only human after all, we can only evaluate so much ourselves. Some things are just too unreasonable to accept without any proof or backing. You might say this is limiting, and you'd be right, but it's necessary and we all do it even if it's done unconsciously. There needs to be a balance between broadening your horizons and going off the deep end.

>>135705

>It's clear that guy doesn't actually have a reason for believing that

There is a clear metaphysical logic and a strong physical indication confirming it. However most convincing evidence is of a personal nature and shouldn't be brought up out here, it would be disrespectful to involved persons. You are free to test this yourself using your own methods. Animals are linked to yearly periods of going into heat, what does that have to do with humans? Do we have a mating season when everyone gets extremely horny and makes babies all over in the parks and streets?

Fun thing to note about the moon is that Li Hongzhi claims it is artificial and was built by prehistoric humans. Menstruation being linked to the moon cycle is suspicious to say the least, with this in mind.

>>135699

I think his presentation of limited amount of information with a large dose of possible deniability, his insistence on him somehow having more access or knowing more things than others, hell, he's essentially claiming everyone on /fringe/ needs to actually practice instead of doing nothing. Ignoring the veil and roleplay and getting to the meat of his claims, he'll deflect and claim you're the one with the problem, or the topic is somehow unrelated, or whatever other excuse he can make for how he's actually, really, and truthfully not wrong, and you're insane. All things initially are a leap of faith, it's only through experience and if you're lucky, learning through other people's mistakes, that these things can be figured out.

>>135711

"Armchair occultist"

>>135714

It probably stems from his belief that if you'd actually practiced, you'd know that jews caused menstruation.

I'd like to say that my emphasis on the absurdity of (((menstruation))) is more humorous than serious, I find the idea absurd but more importantly I don't see why that would be the case. Menstruation and fertility go hand in hand, if a woman doesn't menstruate then she's infertile. But, looking purely at his own reasoning for why menstruation has come about through the Jews, it makes no sense unless your mind operates at the level of an alternate reality porn fantasy. Take the time and study why menstruation occurs in women, take the time to read through theories for why it's come about. Disregard that and actually study female fertility through other means, it doesn't have to be purely scientific and reasonable. I'm absolutely certain that you'll find a reason more profound than:

>meanie jews raep women! Evil rype patti-rachy culture, great cloud headman peepee HATE women >:((((

It's the easiest way to show off how inferior his reasoning process is. But this does point to my own insistence on reality being reasonable, until the time reality proves itself to be a porn game, I'm not convinced.

I'm done here.

>>135716

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the supposition that jews would need to conjure menstruation from the void. What's to stop me from raping a woman, with or without a monthly period?

There's no logical reasoning even when taking these delusions for granted. The law of cause and effect is too complex for shinto's hentai-addled mind.

>>135705

>>135706

>Otherwise I can say the Jews created the moon to oppress

Oh boy, this is a funny one…in "The Mystery of Belicena Villca" it is written that the proto-jews, the "evil" Atlanteans created their own realm and place of operations between the earth and the sun (that place called Shamballa) in order to filter the rays and energy of the sun to their own means and actually oppress the stuff on earth. I mean…between the earth and the sun…the moon…could it be?! NOOO WAYYY…

>>135705

But I like your post. I understand where you are coming from and agree with you. Of course you have to be aware of completely outragegous claims and not be a complete retard. You seem to be abe to think for yourself too.

>>135714

The audacity, right…

>>135702

I'm not "the" dagoth poster, I just attach pics at random most of the time.

>>135699

>Or are all solitary traditions a leap of faith?

It's all a leap of faith until you get results for yourself. About it's ineffectiveness…yeah probably. But I admit I knew about the 5-7 year initial transformation period for this all along. The seven years have been mentioned right from the start, so maybe I'm the retard for not being patient enough? I mean I'm whining about it and giving up only after 2,5 years when it it clear from the start that it takes longer.

>>135700

This reminds me of the meguca times when another anon and me were joking about that all the others are already dead. We thought the spell might be a loosh farming scheme that kills us because we both found that we were worse off than before the spell. Who knows, maybe they are dead…but I assume they have better things to do in life than being on this LOATHSOME board all the time. Also after fringe went down they might just be lost and moved on somewhere else. But if you wanna talk about it, I'm here and I wouldn't mind to hear you out.

>>135717

>What's to stop me from raping a woman

What does it have to do with raping women?

>>135722

>I assume they have better things to do in life than being on this LOATHSOME board all the time.

Not dead. I think the vampire spell is working though. It's all so strange and I didn't believe this stuff was real. I don't think it's a loosh farming scheme. Rather, I'm ripping the loosh out of the fuckers who have tormented me for my entire life. It's a blissful process on my part. Not so much for the prey.

I can get a lot more energy other ways but I revel in my vengeance against them.

>>135736

If women have allowed themselves to become corrupted, they deserve their fate imo. Sounds like the only way out for them is for some male wizard to take the time and effort to manage their evolution, and even then I doubt that they'll ever take the initiative. That's just what being female is about, Jewish corruption or no. They are the soil within which the seed grows; if the soil is barren it's almost always better to just go somewhere else.

>>135738

I know I said I'm done, but I gave it some thought. Here's the axioms for how to reach the conclusions he reached:

1. Assume women can do no wrong.

2. Assume men are the problem.

3. Assume the world is an egregore, and everything is reliant on perspective and personalities

And for him personally:

4. Assume everything revolves around him.

>>135746

>I don't really get why bother so much fixing the universe or specifically earth?

Actually I think I came up with an answer for that myself. You're basically paving the way. The less control and power the jews have, the easier it is to liberate individually and collectively. In that case the prison needs to be taken over first by us/the "good guys" and then when the guards are weakened we can break out together. I think you do what you do is the same reason why through all the ages men of spirit have been fighting against the demiurgic forces and the jews and trying to establish nationalism and leading wars etc. If we don't gain power and weaken the enemy first the armies from valhalla might never arrive to begin with.

But of course still post your own view if you will.

>>135747

>>135746

Start a thread on /sunflower/ if you want to have eloborate discussion on this, it's not a topic suitable for this board.

>>135746

>What's wrong with attaining enlightenment, getting your diamond body and then getting the fuck out of here?

What's specifically wrong with this view is that it's fake. This is what the past universe was about, escaping into a glass bottle and sealing it shut. That's enlightenment as taught by "buddha" and Lao Zi. It doesn't actually work. The bottle breaks and you're back here again. From your perception the amount of time may be close to endless before you come out, but from those on the outside, time wasn't all that long. Then you need to repeat it, only to hide away for a while again. It's not really different from a really long human life, and you're not eliminating your karma either, it'll wait for you on the outside when your "law" breaks and you come back out.

Which brings us to

>>135751

>I'm afraid you have created a monster that you cannot control

The appearance of Snail/Amok was predicted over 20 years ago, he has to be included. His contributions on this topic are invaluable.

>at what time is it safe to fuck bitches unprotected?

What is "safe" sex in the first place? You need to change your viewpoint. Women are supposed to be fertile all their lives, but only by activation. The same goes for men. Men today are hypersexual and can't help staring at tits and assess wherever they go. But instead of fixing this, we now have "morality" and "decency" in which bodies have to be concealed to prevent men staring at them and getting aroused. This state of mind is equally abnormal. When you get past it you'll look at a body and not feel anything in particular, and no arousal will occur. Because sex today is performed from this mindset, ejaculation of the male inserts the male essence into the female, who is also in the active state. Without this thinking, the male essence will not be included in the act and nothing will happen. Deactivate either the male or the female and there will be no pregnancy. The normal way is that known as tantric sex, which is non-impregnative. The change will happen when you reach that state of mind. It will make you aware of the difference at a physical level.

But physically speaking, women hit the wall around 40 - 50 years of age at this current rate, while men tend to be fertile all their lives, although with lessening quality. The way this normally works is just within the same timeframe, that of a human lifetime, if you were to rely on the physical exhaustion of inborn human essence.

>>135747

If we can't beat humans, are we really more than human? That's why merely escaping through "enlightenment" isn't worth anything. We need to physically subdue and oppress them, that's what a real god does.

I don't want to talk about this anymore here, the armchairists will just obstruct any decent discussion to keep believing they are gods already while they still can't change anything in the world. They'll come up with all kinds of mental gymnastics to motivate why they won't fight the current rulers and this doesn't give room for fruitful discussions.

>>135753

That's an old FB screencap.

>>135758

>misaligned with what he posts about it

What Li Hongzhi says, I mean.

>>135758

>I'm the retard who taught him

What? The plot thickens. Who are you, NEET poster?

>>135758

You should know that whatever I learned from FD was incorporated with the christian worldview I already had. The "past universe" is a reference to the events described in the book of revelations. We are already in the new universe, we entered it in around 2009, and the chalices are being poured over the earth right now, with the islamic state being one, corona another. The process is somewhat deviating from the description and playing out in a different order but all events are there. Falun Dafa is not above the things of the bible, it's at most equal to it, mostly not even that, the way I see it. The red dragon was predicted in the book of revelations already, yet it took years before anyone in falun gong made the connection to communism.

>>135760

A nobody.

The easiest way to dismantle his comprehension of law is through two methods. The first, and easier one, the mouse utopia. The entire experiment is based in an environment of limited space with unlimited resources. Historically, no civilization has actually existed in such a vacuum. They've suffered natural declines, destruction, and inclines, and it keeps going. We instead see, historically, practically unlimited space with limited resources. Mouse utopia is scare-mongering, but it's not entirely invalid.

No "law" is external to the universe, it's assimilated to it. Whether this assimiliation is being equal to the universe is another question. Similar to how an individual's personality can dictate how he or she acts, and giving names to the traits of the personality isn't literally being the traits.

>>135763

>The entire experiment is based in an environment of limited space with unlimited resources. Historically, no civilization has actually existed in such a vacuum

You know who else used a model like this?

https://clubofrome.org/publication/the-limits-to-growth/

This book has been spread to political leaders all over the world and formed the policies used today. This is the reason most predictions made almost 50 years ago are still valid.

<No matter if what you say is physically true about history and the universe, our leaders are working according to this model, making it into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

This is why the mouse utopia would become reality for humans if society kept going on the current path.

>>135764

If you're not familiar with how the "elites" stay in power, just assume our current social and political environment was manipulated and selectively cultivated to give a specific kind of impression. The historical myths of barbarians being outside of the walls of cities, or just plain old monsters and demons, being the simplest example. Everything is fake.

You can be cute with how simple your worldview can be, but it's not as clean cut as you'd want it to be. I'm not going to argue about civilizations and the "correct political model" since that's for /pol/ and I don't like politics.

>>135765

>Everything is fake

Here we go again. You admit that I'm right, yet you bring up irrelevant things like

>>135763

>The first, and easier one, the mouse utopia. The entire experiment is based in an environment of limited space with unlimited resources. Historically, no civilization has actually existed in such a vacuum. They've suffered natural declines, destruction, and inclines, and it keeps going. We instead see, historically, practically unlimited space with limited resources.

Go on, twist what I said once more to create an illusion of me not understanding what you meant and you not being inconsistent and constantly diverting attention from the things you didn't think through. Maybe you can fool yourself that you're right once more. For a while

>>135769

You made a point?

>>135778

I always felt hiragana, kanji, katakana, and hebrew to be related. Kanji for slightly different reasons, and depending on the kanji.

>>135779

All aryan languages are closely related. You can also look at Coptic, Aramaic, Etruscan (basically all the Italic languages), Norse, Phrigian, Dacian, etc.

The more you study this stuff, the more apparent it becomes that all Aryan languages are more or less the same, with phonetic variations developing as a result of intellectual laziness, with a tendency to compress complicated phonetics into generalized, simpler ones (proto-Aryan was insanely complex by modern standards).

Modern English has become a barely comprehensible soup of identical sounds and intonations, while more resilient, healthy tribes have maintained a high degree of complexity and expression.

The Jews are objectively more Aryan than most North and West Europeans, while having maintained their in-group mentality, which is why shintoanon is sperging out about them so much.

>>135240

>My goal is a primitivist ancap world with true sexual liberation, terrorized by an army of immortal elite mage lolis.

basically like me playing sims with an immortal self-insert avatar, lol

based af

Sell your Tesla stocks, I'm dumping it.

>>135941

>>135943

Interesting. Tell us about your ways.