Masculine and feminine spiritual mindset 06/15/19 (Sat) 12:51:31 No. 132305 [View All]
So I was listening to this you tuber called Enlighten and I just figured something out:
The feminine mindset and religion is always about having sex, making love, procreation and the circular current in the Universe
The masculine mindset and religion is always one about abandoning the matter, renouncing the pleasure's of the flesh, purification for the transcendental, virtually denying the feminist religion mindset. That is the reason why monks and holy men were supposed to abstain from sexual intercourse with women. They were above women, they didn't want to contribute to the profiliferation of the material world with their seed.
And in many ways, we the incels and mgtow of 8chan are the same. Despite what reddit propaganda would have you think most guys here could get a roastie or a degenerate feminist. But they choose not and to derive pleasure from denying them their reproductive mandate and seeing them dying childless.
In many way we are the last outpost of the masculine mythic mindset.
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08/02/20 (Sun) 09:30:35 No. 136589
I think women have a "weak spirit" into things.
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08/02/20 (Sun) 10:02:41 No. 136592
End this poppycock you ragamuffins!
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08/02/20 (Sun) 13:16:49 No. 136597
>>132305
You're wrong, they are not the same. They are reverse monks. Instead of getting away from desire, they instead culminate their desires at worst kind possible, secluding for the desire itself. And instead of working at philosophical or spiritual journey in seclusion, they become even more materialistic in new age of consumerism.
Average NEET would not survive in 14 century or earlier. They need their "entertainment".
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08/02/20 (Sun) 14:20:08 No. 136599
>>132378
this post didn't age well in 2020.
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08/02/20 (Sun) 17:46:58 No. 136612
But, the problem is, that shit is usually true for human women.
So im either going pygmalion with AI andriods or looking for companionship in this magick shit as the only choices to maintain my royal line against my growing hatred for all humanity at large.
Like, if I had the resources at my disposal, we could be a type 1 civilization within 20 years, capable of mining asteroids from the surface of the moon.
Current project is a -2.3# efficiency cold fusion reactor that self-feeds from hydrogen synthesized through photon transmutation into the protons and electrons required to form the element.
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08/03/20 (Mon) 02:02:32 No. 136630
>>136585
Impotent anger.
>>136597
Certainly one kind of NEET. I imagine either desperation fueling NEETdom, laziness, or lack of general drive. The only one equipped enough would be those driven by desperation, and those aren't always going to be the most up-beat.
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08/05/20 (Wed) 02:03:58 No. 136759
You would love to read what Evola says about the sexes.
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09/11/20 (Fri) 16:56:55 No. 137513
>>132305
You know the /r9k/ theory of women is perpetuated by men right? BBC memes are perpetuated by men, think about how silly that is. As for the nature of women and the feminine, I don't think this generalisation cuts it.
I would suggest that even feminine SPIRITUAL mindset must necessarily reject the material in some way. Men and women can be materialistic or they can be something else. Seems like you just want to say that women are bad at spirituality, which is sort of bland.
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09/11/20 (Fri) 17:39:36 No. 137514
>>137513
>/r9k/ theory of women is perpetuated by men
Women being all roastie whores with no redeemable qualities ever? I don't think women would perpetuate that. I don't see the point in saying that, and I'm not sure about the BBC memes being perpetuated by men either.
The difference between the male and female mind, as it's relevant to me, is the lack of a sense of bravery, honor, and self-sacrifice. All of these emotions and obsessions being within the framework of a lack of external-object-oriented goals, in the sense of self-sacrifice being an action that is good in itself, and bravery good in itself, honor good in itself. The difference between being internally driven and being externally driven.
There's a double negative here so I'll tl;dr and say bravery good women no get Y????
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09/11/20 (Fri) 19:12:17 No. 137515
>>137513
>theory of women is perpetuated by men
Just to make clear the kind of statement this is, replace two words
>theory of Muslims is perpetuated by Christians
For the /r9k/ robot they're pointing out observations. It's not "perpetuation" as in being the source of the rumor, it's perpetuation as in being a medium by which information can pass through. And information can be distorted if the medium has a bias.
>feminine SPIRITUAL mindset must necessarily reject the material in some way
This comment also implicitly accept that the op may be true, but even if true the connotation of "spiritual" assumes something that exists separate from material. There's no denial of any of op's claims. Your post mostly pushes away from the issue and focuses on (presumably) blaming men and calling out the op for implying women are "bad at spirituality".
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SAGE! 09/11/20 (Fri) 19:40:14 No. 137516
>>136597
thats just some inferior neets
the idea of being a neet is that you should not live like plebs, especially since living like a plem will ruin you very quick because magically this doesn't work well with neetdom
being an anime junkie is the opposite of long-term neetdom, thats a culture popularised by some kids who were neets for a year after HS or someshit
theres 0 balance if you live like that, like fucking pleb holidays all day
this is a non-neet setting
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09/11/20 (Fri) 19:45:51 No. 137517
>>137514
these "good" traits are suicidal and idiotic
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09/11/20 (Fri) 20:04:24 No. 137518
>>137517
Elaborate. I can only see it as idiotic if you accept both a materialistic framework and a framework where your life and enjoyment is more important than literally anything else in the world, that is to say you're purely selfish and atheistic. And suicidal, self-sacrifice can be seen as suicidal if it's in the connotation of your life literally being on the line, and bravery isn't suicidal and neither is honor.
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09/11/20 (Fri) 20:14:10 No. 137519
>>137517
And to disambiguate even further, bravery, honor, or self-sacrifice aren't "traits". They don't exist in a vacuum outside of the action that they represent. To consider them traits is to abstract them to the point of losing meaning. Bravery, the ability to stand against difficult and discouraging opposition, only exists under the condition of an opponent. Someone can be "brave" when they've shown past ability to do this. The same goes for honor. Self-sacrifice isn't an attribute or a trait so this doesn't apply.
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09/11/20 (Fri) 23:55:12 No. 137522
>>137519
if they are so abstract how come you decide they're exclusive to men then?
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09/12/20 (Sat) 00:13:11 No. 137524
>>137522
I don't think bravery is (that) abstract, and it's level of abstraction doesn't affect it's exclusivity to sex. I think for the purpose of discussion, someone who is brave is brave because he (or she) has shown and demonstrated a past history of brave action, not because bravery is an inherent trait to an individual. This is to leave no ambiguity in the discussion. Real life isn't an RPG where traits are assigned and a person will conform to these traits for the rest of eternity, or God Himself changes it for him, bravery is primarily the word given to an action and not a specific state of being that is always present within an individual, or latent within him. From my experience women don't understand why men feel the need to act courageously and put themselves in danger, or to self-sacrifice (specifically giving up material possessions, in it's extreme, life for the sake of someone else), and they have no concept of the implicit reciprocity and respect that these actions garner between men. The only exception to this is the maternal instinct, but the internal motivation is distinct from honor and bravery, although self-sacrifice is unconditionally a part of.
No, I'm not saying all men literally have this trait instilled in them without exception, or that women are literally incapable of feeling it. I'm not trying to make logically absolute statements and I certainly don't have the absolute confidence needed to make such statements without role playing. Since I'm speaking from experience you either agree with me or you don't. In which case, I would find it helpful if you were to provide another viewpoint.
However, I think your post is intentionally missing the point on purpose. So I await another misunderstanding that will eventually lead to another misunderstanding as you run around accomplishing nothing.
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09/12/20 (Sat) 05:02:58 No. 137529
how do we fix women, cabrones?
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SAGE! 09/12/20 (Sat) 06:53:33 No. 137530
>>132305
Orthodox Christian priests can get married and have children. Orthodoxy transcends dialectics such as masculine/feminine.
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09/12/20 (Sat) 08:47:23 No. 137531
>>137524
>From my experience women don't understand why men feel the need to act courageously and put themselves in dangeror to self-sacrifice (specifically giving up material possessions, in it's extreme, life for the sake of someone else), and they have no concept of the implicit reciprocity and respect that these actions garner between men.
or maybe you're just a misogynist and automatically assume things based on absolutely nothing
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09/12/20 (Sat) 11:10:40 No. 137533
>>137531
It's an active and observable reality if you kept your mind open enough to the possibility of it. If any observation of difference is misogyny to you, that's your own close-minded inability to understand how the world functions properly. That's also your own failure, and I don't have any desire to resolve that for you.
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09/12/20 (Sat) 12:37:26 No. 137535
>>137533
anything becomes your active and observable reality if you immersive yourself into it. it doesnt make it real. you talk like that schizo who thinks jews cause menstruation and anyone who disagrees with him is "blind".
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09/12/20 (Sat) 12:53:49 No. 137536
>>137535
Oddly specific analogy.
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09/12/20 (Sat) 12:59:16 No. 137537
>>137535
And no, I'm accepting of the possibility of being wrong but regardless and despite of that, I don't see myself as wrong. And I'm willing to talk about this subject and be convinced otherwise, but given that you're actively trying to
1. Misinterpret my posts
2. Waste my time
Such an outcome is literally unreachable. Even the analogy you're using is made mute by
>No, I'm not saying all men literally have this trait instilled in them without exception
Since it's clear that there are scenarios where I've seen this not be absolutely true at all times, in every scenario. You're simply gaslighting.
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09/12/20 (Sat) 14:22:47 No. 137538
>>137536
it's one of the most recent inane statements here and fitting to refer to.
>>137537
i disagree and do not wish to convince at all.
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09/12/20 (Sat) 14:31:06 No. 137539
>>137538
Making note of just what boys like, on average, and what girls like, on average, this isn't at all an odd statement or belief. Do you know what shounen is? Do you know what anime's solely focused on show casing overcoming trials and sticking to your gut instinct (which just happens to be honorable and simple-minded)? You're blowing it out of proportion, spitefully, for no reason. Again, you're either being willfully disingenuous or you've never interacted with another human being in your life.
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SAGE! 09/13/20 (Sun) 18:53:54 No. 137550
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09/20/20 (Sun) 21:59:12 No. 137626
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09/21/20 (Mon) 04:12:59 No. 137628
>>137531
Cry more fag.
>>137538
>fitting to refer to
Nothing he said was anywhere close to that level of delusion you retard.
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09/21/20 (Mon) 17:37:39 No. 137629
>>132305
You have a certain degree of power over your emotions. So when faced with the reality that you're an unfuckable loser, you can get sad or mad about it.
At least when you're mad you feel like you have a degree of power. Sadness just envelopes you.
Stay mad and keep hating women lol. Make sure you don't reproduce :-)
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09/24/20 (Thu) 22:01:45 No. 137651
>>137629
Don't worry, landwhale. No one wants to fuck you.
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09/25/20 (Fri) 12:10:31 No. 137652
>>137651
stfu + kys, bullshit occultist
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SAGE! 09/28/20 (Mon) 02:56:33 No. 137659
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09/30/20 (Wed) 20:31:20 No. 137667
Incels exist both male and female.
And they both have the same mentality.
They never lower their standards for the opposite sex and exert the minimum amount of effort to engage with it.
Hence they are both involuntary and voluntary at the same time. While they desire connection with the opposite sex, they themselves decide to push them away more than anything else.
So what you say is certainly not false.
The responses on the topic are always the same though.
The majority of people are literally retards whose thoughts revolve around sex more than anything. The men involuntarily so, making them actually involuntary simps. Basically incimps.
And for the majority of females they feel empowered through sex because it does give them power over incimps and thus over all men through a collective desire for shaming of those who are superior to their hedonism. Such as incels, MGTOW, MRM or any other person of sound mind.
The most obvious evidence for that on this thread and anywhere else is that with the word incel only male incels are being associated. The shaming for abstaining from sex and contact with the opposite gender is the same as telling man to be a soyboy and cuck.
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10/02/20 (Fri) 16:23:08 No. 137678
>>137667
Some people are just woefully unskilled socially, or scared of everything. Say someone who can hardly keep up a conversation about something that isn't Sonic lowers his standards. Then what?
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10/02/20 (Fri) 23:20:01 No. 137681
>>137678
Hope he isn't incompetent in everything but knowledge of sonic lore and he makes something of himself before 40. If not leave him alone and he'd either be happy enough not to an hero or kill himself like most autists do. I don't know what you expect, other than providing the resources on social interaction and game theory there isn't much you could do.
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10/04/20 (Sun) 03:07:11 No. 137693
>>137681
My point is you can't just say "lower you standards" is applicable to everyone. What if you're agoraphobic and never go outside? Clearly that's not something you can solve by lowering your standards.
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10/04/20 (Sun) 13:04:21 No. 137696
>>137693
There are "incels" and then actual incels. He's referring to "incels".
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10/05/20 (Mon) 09:06:04 No. 137698
>>137667
"Incels exist both male and female."
This is such a great point and something more people need to talk about. Id like to add some evidence to your point.
The male driven Incel Movement ideologically are very similar to the women driven Body Positivity Movement(BPM).
Incels in some cases are depressed men who cant get anyone so they sit online and complain about "chads" bang all the girls, and what girls should REALLY careabout intelligence or abillaty to program, essentially girls should care about things the Incel is already doing and good at. The incel shouldn't have to changed anything about them for girls to be into them.
Similarly the people in the BPM in some cases suggest that, the BPM person shouldn't have to change the way that they are, shouldnt have to diet, workoput or look more attractive. Men should just find me attractive for the way that I already am.
So the Incel and BPM movement are both wrapped in, "I cant get laid and I shouldn't have to change anything about me to get laid. The world should
change for me." I really think that's why the average person looks at both movements and its like, shut. the. fuck. up. because we all know in our lives
its "I have to stay in the gym so I look fuckable, I got to make sure I'm successful so I'm fuckable." Some would argue incels shoot up schools a BPM person would never do such a thing, except they do its just character assassination's instead with cancel culture replacing the gun. They still have the
same rage.
I just think this is a really interesting point would love some feedback and thoughts.
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10/05/20 (Mon) 13:24:49 No. 137700
>>137698
Legitimate incels are ugly, asocial, dumb faggot retards who legitimately can't get laid no matter how hard they try, barring rape. Anyone who calls himself an incel doesn't suffer from the delusion of the world needing to change to suit his needs. That's practically falls under the volcel category. Delusions of being perfect or the world needing to change in order for you to be successful in terms of body image strikes me as distinctly feminine.
I was going to say that I've never seen any deformed man say they world needs to accept them but I remember both faggots and trannies exist so I can't say that.
>Some would argue incels shoot up schools
That's just extreme and legitimate feelings of alienation + narcissism.
I think it'd be pretty neat if what you said followed my pattern of experience but the term "incel" like "alt right" feels like made up bullshit that people call themselves and others because it's been made popular by the media, and thus the colloquial definition and the actual definition has been separated into meaning something very distinct than what it actually is. You could replace your use of "incel" with "nerd" and it would be more appropriate. Because high IQ nerds would argue for eugenics towards higher IQs and less focus on body fitness, because that's how they are and people want environments that are optimized for their strengths.
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10/05/20 (Mon) 21:57:30 No. 137701
>>137698
I've sometimes imagined that Incels are ex-Nice-Guys who got rejected by women who don't want to deal with that awkward bullshit.
Pathologically? At least one of their family members is the problem. If it's the mom, she is either emotionally-derelict or abusive. If it's the dad, then dad has groomed him to hate her guts. If it's a sister, she's probably a psycho or angry bitch.
Bad eggs? Bad birds.
>>137700 (checked)
Actually, in line with this post: >>132374 Incels as a term didn't exist outside of reddit until the media kicked up a fuss.
Curious enough, why are "nerds" being bullied, outside of school by "the popular kid" who went into a media career?
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10/07/20 (Wed) 23:19:02 No. 137711
Masculine spiritual mindset is active, thinking, reasoning e.t.c.
Feminine spiritual mindset is passive, feeling, intuition e.t.c.
No need to incelpost without understanding feminine/masculine. You have a mundane understanding of feminine/masculine, you need the esoteric understanding to even discuss.
The kybalion which is the most advertised book on here has a segment for the feminine/masculine duality.
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10/12/20 (Mon) 05:17:58 No. 137735
>>137700
I do think the world should change to fit my needs though.
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10/17/20 (Sat) 07:04:04 No. 137776
>>137735
Do you expect the world to change in order to make you the top without any change on your part? That's the narcissism I'm talking about. My usage of "feminine" would be better said as pathetic and unbefitting of men. On women it's just pathetic.
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10/19/20 (Mon) 05:54:10 No. 137785
>>137776
Yes. The world should change to fit my needs.
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10/19/20 (Mon) 08:02:35 No. 137787
>>137785
Then you would be pathetic.
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10/19/20 (Mon) 20:26:29 No. 137790
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SAGE! 10/20/20 (Tue) 23:05:05 No. 137797
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11/20/20 (Fri) 01:08:19 No. 138003
BREAKING NEWZ: mgtows and incels are not having sex bc they are enlightened men, not bc they are psychologically damaged. MORE AT 8.
Dorks
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11/20/20 (Fri) 04:49:53 No. 138006
What is this feminazi shill shitposting doing here? There are so many logical fallacies at hand.
This post displays only a complete ignorance of the Masculine / Feminine duality of the mind and asserts presumptive oversimplifications that lead only to angsty half-truths and emotionally-charged confirmation bias.
I'm beginning to think this is just an advert for the youtuber since it is devoid of any authentic thought on the matter.
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11/20/20 (Fri) 17:41:15 No. 138007
>>138006
Are you an ESL? Your post is incoherent, who are you replying to?
>>138003
Those aren't mutually exclusive.
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