/fast/ - Sonic the Hedgehog

fast

>>14004

also fast

So with Mania Adventures & TSR Overdrive, what are the odds SEGA announces a Sonic animated series sometime this year or next year?

https://twitter.com/SEGA/status/1107721286241837056

>>14006

Low. Because they are making it clear this is time consuming in house. At least in the 90s and 2000s, SEGA was a bigger company with far more budget, so they could get away with Sonic X. Now, you'd definitely need it to be outsourced, and they already did that with Sonic Boom. Even when Boom worked for the show, it still got cancelled thanks to the game conterparts. I feel like this shorts direction is the reaction to said Boom failing, a compermise basically. Maybe if they got Toei or something to outsource too, maybe, but otherwise, I don't think so. The quality of the shorts are actually far better and up to par than literally all of modern day cartoons for kids, if it's purely hand drawn. Just look at shit like nuPPG or most of the non tweened shit on CN.

>>14009

Went to an insane asylum?

>>14015

>>14017

Would you buy these, /fast/?

>>14018

someone usually buys the new books and storytimes them so I'd probably wait for someone to do the novelization. But I might buy the mad libs book

>>14017

>buy mad libs book

>fill every blank with "& Knuckles"

>>14022

Well, we have heard about Sonic basically being divided up into 4 branches now (Modern!Sonic, Classic!Sonic, Movie!Sonic & Animation!Sonic), so I wouldn't be too surprised if they tried pursuing another animated series in the near future.

However, I can see it being something akin to the shorts we've gotten with Sonic Mania Adventures & Team Sonic Racing Overdrive, where they serve more as cute little shorts rather than being a full-length show ala Sonic Boom or Sonic X.

And tbh, a Sonic short series done by Tyson Hesse does sound pretty nice.

>>14024

What got deleted?

And things have been going pretty well here anon, from people talking about a potential fangame as well as discussions regarding all the recent news about Sonic.

>>14024

It's been going pretty good in my opinion. We haven't died yet and we get a slow but steady stream of new posts and sometimes even stuff made for us. What about you, did you enjoy your 4 months of freedom?

ParleyMint of SonicRetro conducted an interview with Tomoya Ohtani and gives a few interesting answers:

http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=38490&st=0

http://archive.fo/AlOzs

>>14015

>>14017

You've got to be kidding me.

>>14027

Hmm.

I understand the mentality behind the Forces OST & I admit that reading about the thought process behind these soundtracks are pretty interesting, but I still kinda wish the synths sounded better in the game.

>>14028

Actually, this does bring a question to mind:

Would anyone mind Crush 40 doing the theme of the next game?

>>14029

I love Crush 40 so I’d be more than fine with it.

>>14027

That was a nice interview. I liked the varied questions and how concrete his answers were. That last answer though, wtf.

>>14035

Those are some big bumps

>>14029

http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=38451

http://archive.fo/sthYf

//forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=38490&view=findpost&p=939651

Reminds me that he's trying to get other interviews and one of the people he reached for previously was Johnny Gioeli. The reason Crush 40 stopped doing theme songs for the modern Sonic games front and center was due to him being busy with other projects as well as being "pricy" from the sound of it. Liked his answer regarding Live and Learn, and he's just so hyper through out it all.

>>14032

No surprise it was in California, if only I could travel more freely. Least I got to get autographs from Team Sonic's VAs, Jun Senoue, and meet Iizuka-san, though.

>>14037

Read through that one as well. I wonder just how much coke Johnny does.

>>14041

>That Iizuka pic

Heh!

Anyways, pretty cool that you got that stuff signed & had the chance to meet Iizuka, anon.

>>14041

Sounds like you had a nice time! Kek, that Iizuka picture is awesome, I bet Jun loved it, he sounds like a really swell guy. Can't believe you gave that Eggman picture to Mike to sign though, but I imagine he's seen worse… much worse. Thanks for posting!

What did you have Colleen voice?

>>14047

New IDW issue storytimed.

Wish we had gotten more Sonic/Amy banter in this issue, but man, Rough & Tumble turning into robot zombies & them regenerating their damaged bodies were pretty sweet moments, not gonna lie.

>>14054

Thank you! Looking forward to reading it later today!

>>14073

Hm…. she looks a bit too featureless. What animal is her?

>>14074

Apparently, a beetle.

One of the few in the series, if that's the case

>>14073

She reminds me an awful lot of that OC by that infamous DA artist 4/sthg/ hated.

>>14079

Nice

>>14046

Yeah, I did, they really were. Colleen only answered my question but they did do voices on stage.

>>14082

>>14083

Slightly unrelated, but I don't understand why when there's a panel full of people who worked on Sonic, people always ask retarded questions. Either they're autistic, or just trying to get their 5 minutes of fame by trolling the panelists. And if it's not that, it's asking a question they obviously can't answer. It's rare that I ever see someone ask a good, serious, needed-to-be-asked question.

I think if I ever had a panel, and there was a line for the Q&A, kids would go in front, because it seems like they always ask the real questions. To them, this is not a con panel; this is a press conference. They take this shit seriously and they have questions that they want answers to.

>>14086

People likely doing it for the memes, but yeah, it gets pretty annoying.

>>14088

Ay, I posted in the wrong thread. My bad.

>>14086

The questions in this SXSW panel weren't very good, it's annoying when the people asking them just waste everyone's time (not to mention the chance to learn cool things we otherwise wouldn't). I think they were better in previous years. Wish someone would have asked about the Sonic Pillar team this SXSW.

Small behind the scenes video of Jun's collab for Bingo Party. She seems okay I guess, not wanting to drown his guitar with her sounds.

So, /fast/:

What was your first Sonic game & what is currently your favorite?

>>14102

I hope they will be in the comic this time, last time during the Metal Sonic arc they were on a cover before but was no where to be seen in the actual issue.

>>14103

Judging by this preview I found, seems like they're actually gonna show up this time:

https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/APR190621

>>14105

Blegh, meant cover*

>>14101

Heroes was my first. Adventure is my favorite.

>>14101

First: Sonic 2

Current: Sonic Mania

>>14108

Are you me?

>>14101

My first was Sonic 1. My all-time favorite is 3&K, my current favorite is Mania.

>>14101

First: Generations

Favorite: maybe Generations but I've kind of grown tired of it because it doesn't have a ton of replayability. Maybe Sonic 3&K.

>>14101

First: Sonic 2

Favorite: Sonic 3&K

What is everybody's second Sonic game?

My second game was Sonic The Hedgehog 2006

>>14112

My first game was Advance 2, but I think the second Sonic title I ever played was Sonic Heroes.

>>14112

My second game was Colors. I basically went from newer to older games.

>>14112

I think it was Sonic 3, but that was a long time ago, and I only played 3 and &K with rentals, in my early childhood. I never actually played the combined 3&K until I got into emulation.

Well, lookie here:

>>14116

I was just thinking of this the other day. I was having kind of an itch to play Runners again and I remembered seeing someone showing precisely this not long after Sega shut the game down, and then I don't remember seeing anything about it again. I don't know if it's the same people as back then, though.

>>14118

R-rude

>>14120

The art on that first pic is cute

>>14121

I want to know what's inside.

>>14123

You can do it in Sonic 1?

>>14126

Damn, nice

>>14126

It makes me happy that they're giving the show so much love. I think I remember the old packaging and I think I also didn't like it a lot, this one is much better though I wish they would have used a bit more variety on the stock art. Sad to learn the masters are only SD, goodbye hopes of having a full HD release one day.

>that PS

Yes, I was going to ask about that, I wish they could deliver the Japanese version too, that would be a treat.

>>14122

It's like a Cheeto but it's a tube instead of a normal cylinder.

>>14130

How many are supposed to be in the tube?

>>14131

You misunderstand. It's one big tube-shaped cheeto.

WHY THE FUCK DOES LOST WORLD HAVE 100 ACHIEVEMENTS? I NEVER ACTUALLY PLANNED ON PLAYING IT AGAIN, BUT I JUST HAPPENED TO BROWSE OVER IT IN MY STEAM PAGE AND SAW THAT NUMBER. WHO WOULD BOTHER TO COME UP WITH 100 FUCKING ACHIEVEMENTS FOR THAT PIECE OF SHIT.

>>14135

>WHO WOULD BOTHER TO COME UP WITH 100 FUCKING ACHIEVEMENTS FOR THAT PIECE OF SHIT

It was someone's job to do it, think of that poor man anon.

https://cytu.be/r/8chanmania

Knuckles is back! (It's his Boom version though)

>>14150

Shadow's initial popularity probably CAN be replicated, but it would take a lot of work handling the character correctly.

As for surpassing, I dunno. Kinda feels like the franchise isn't really what it used to be.

>>14152

Yeah, that's a real shame. It was a nice sync with the song though

>>14155

Whoops didn't mean to reply.

>>14155

I mean, I know some people do like Lost World & I've seen some decent mods for the game, but:

>a must-have for any fan

Nah.

>>14155

>some guy has 26 hours of playtime

Are you saying that's a lot or too little for Lost World?

>>14157

>I've seen some decent mods for the game

What mods have you seen that you would recommend?

>>14158

>Are you saying that's a lot or too little for Lost World?

The game can be beaten, on a first time run, in four hours. He has enough playtime to have beaten it six times over.

>>14158

I don't have the specific video on me now, but I remember seeing some SA1/2 levels remade in Lost World that looked pretty decent, especially with some of the improvement mods that's been put out for LW.

>>14159

To elaborate, Steam has my playtime at 3.8 hours. That was my whole first time through, including not skipping any cutscenes, having to go back and collect animals two or three times, playing one of the bonus levels, going out of my way for some of the red rings, and having some trouble figuring out the Zavok fights. If I were experienced with the game, I could probably hundred-percent it in, at most, three hours. Assuming none of that guy's 26 hours was idling time, he's played it enough to be a pro at it.

>>14161

Holy shit, I didn't realize it was that short. Now I want to see how long my playthrough took, but unfortunately that was in a previous HDD and I don't think I saved the saves. Anyway, while the game might be short, 26 hours of playtime is not much for a game if it's a favorite of yours on the other hand.

>>14163

I want Bump to Bump me

>>14164

yeah, I want sage to spit on me too

>no one has made any good lewd OC mods in Forces

Is it too much to ask for an OC body that's as stacked as Rouge?

>>14168

Anon pls go back to /sonich/ or /fur/ pls.

>>14172

Tbf, I do think body sliders should've been put in the OC creator in Forces.

I wouldn't make an OC with a Rouge body or anything, I just wanted more variety for OC bodies besides the Boom lanky body

>>14174

Was there an official announcement mentioning they were returning this week? Did they announce at what time it begins and are you going to watch it /sthg/?

>>14174

Huh, neat. What kind of fanart are they looking for? Any character of your liking or something?

>>14176

Just any character/art you wanna draw.

>>14175

I think it may be Thursday at 2 PM.

I'll try to watch it if possible

>>14177

2PM pacific? Fuck, can't make it that early.

>>14178

EST

I think that's the time, so don't quote me on that

>>14173

ok, /fur/ good for you

>>14179

That'd be quite early in meme man's time zone.

>>14183

I kinda wanna see a Hesse-drawn Sage tbh this is one cute deer.

>>14186

What, you DON'T put BBQ Sauce in your chili?

For anyone who does, how would that taste?

Anyways, if SEGA keeps bringing back old levels into new games what are some zones you'd like to see re-imagined?

>>14187

I'd imagine it would make the chili sweeter and smokier, depending on the specific variety of sauce.

>>14185

I have never tried a chilidog, but I remember a few anons mentioning that recipe and trying it before.

>>14190

And? How was it?

>>14191

A or maybe E

>>14191

These all feel really generic.

>>14191

Anything but C

D is ok

>>14197

Hello brit anon

>>14198

Fell asleep again, but hey.

Anyways: https://tiermaker.com/create/sonic-characters

Post your Sonic character tiers

I really hope they get better writers for Sonic. All this hoopla over how the series works just highlights Sonic Team isn't a great writing source longterm, but can make good and fun stories short term like in SA2 or even S3K.

>>14208

It's been a long while since I've played any of the GC Adventure games, but I don't remember them being used for anything.

>>14206

The fucky thing is that Sonic has all the potential in the world for great (or at least interesting) longterm narratives. If Sly Cooper can do it, Sonic sure as hell can.

>>14174

Reminder that apparently the livestreams return tomorrow if you wanted to watch.

>>14197

What a cutie pie!

>>14216

Top-tier taste

what is this from again? It's not Hang Castle

>>14218

Comments seem to indicate it's Rooftop Run (Night). But it bares little resemblance.

>>14210

I remember reading that for the first time, and not being able to make it into a song in my head. Now for some reason I am, thanks for posting this Anon

Going live soon

>>14221

Anything happen yet? I barely just got out of work.

>>14227

>Almost 40 hours

Madman.

The more I think about it, I am pretty confident I've put almost 100 hours into Heroes

>>14227

There's no telling how many hours I've put into Sonic 2. As for games I have an exact count in, All Stars Racing Transformed is my longest at 37 hours, with Generations being my longest non-crossover game, and second-longest in general, at 30.

>>14227

I don't know. Both s3&k and sa2 have swallowed countless hours from my teen years. I will say that chao raising ate up most of my sa2 time. I love the little buggers

>>14227

Likely still S3K. I've played it on PC for literally 3 years before finally getting SA2B for myself

Although I spent time on Chao, I'm still certain S3K is longest.

>internet friend that's kinda into Sonic asks about Penders

>go into long rant about his history with Archie

>another friend shows up, who knows mostly nothing about Sonic aside from watching the cartoon as a kid, and encourages me to keep going

>end up spending 40 minutes detailing the saga of ken penders

What is wrong with me?

>>14235

You really don't like Ken Penders

Not that anyone would blame you, tbh

>>14224

I imagine there's a bunch of stuff related to old games that hasn't been released or lost, kinda curious if Aaron can find anything like that.

>>14239

>hydrus

Why'd you have to remind me of the thousands of images I was planning on putting in there and tagging?

I think this is the livestream of the SegaFes convention. Not sure what they'll be doing yet, though, but starts in 5.

>>14244

They have 2 streams not sure why, this one is live now.

>>14245

>Mario & Sonic 2020 confirmed

Nice

fuck, now I need to listen to Scrap Brain Zone again.

>>14250

Yup, so we're getting two Sonic games this year.

Adding that in with confirmation that the next major game is in development, a lot of stuff on the games side of the series for the next year or two.

>>14250

I'm intrigued by the phone game. I know it's just going to be a mini game collection but I like that's it's Sonic only as opposed to Mario&Sonic. I wonder if that could mean them experimenting more and putting more Sonic-y minigames in it as opposed to just generic Olympics games

>>14253

I like the new outfits for everyone. I really hope they can be customised. Kind of like the Avatar in Forces but without the body part changes of course.

The thing I want to address is, is the fact the M&S game looks like a downgrade in graphics, could this mean more focus could be spent on the mainline game instead? If most of the old M&S team (aka, Unleashed/Gens team) is still working on M&S, I'm concerned about the mainline game dearly.

>>14259

The design for Sonic in this reminds me of Riders, so who knows?

Also hey, new Sakura Wars announced

>>14257

maybe the graphics just aren't done yet or maybe they were showing the switch in docked mode or whatever it's called

>>14257

>If most of the old M&S team (aka, Unleashed/Gens team) is still working on M&S

Oh not this shit again.

>>14259

I don't think so, they also did centermouth for the last M&S game and I don't remember hearing about any changes in terms of animation style like that.

>>14263

Looks like they made that canceled Sonic Pro Skater game back.

>>14252

Place your bets. Will this thing be closer to SNES-mini quality, or playstation-mini quality?

>>14265

Did one of those turn out to be bad quality?

>>14266

Ps1 had a disappointing library, lacked features, and had a pretty bad menu. It was pretty clearly rushed out in an attempt to capitalize on the SNES-mini while it was still hot.

>>14264

Tbh, a Sonic Pro Skater mini-game would probably make this an instant buy for me

Another stream is starting, it seems

https://www.sonicstadium.org/2019/03/sega-hardlight-developed-sonic-racing-announced-for-apple-arcade/

>>14273

Damn, Unleashed was a beautiful looking game.

Steam port when, SEGA?

>>14273

How is this possible? I don't think they were rendered that high for Xbox/PS3.

>>14276

Looks nice

>>14277

Maybe it's been delayed?

>>14279

>Meropis is kill forever

They were too good for this world.

Tbh, I'd love a stage based off that entire area

>>14284

What would Sonic even do with my money?

>>14285

Buy chilidogs

Take Tails to the movies

Pay actual developers to make his games

>>14286

I think that last one is gonna take more than an anon's wallet.

>>14299

Why do you love him?

>>14300

Not him, but I think there was potential to the Infinite character & he had a sweet theme

>>14300

I like his design and concept

>>14313

Well, only the most recent content of her. Mania Adventures, IDW and TSRO has been the best uses of her since all of Modern Amy. I don't count Boom because… It's Boom Amy, not Modern.

>>14318

>>14319

Oh yeah I remember seeing some of your work.

Keep up the nice art.

>>14319

>>14323

To my knowledge, TC has shown up here once or twice. Not sure about anything more than that.

That reminds me that doing another Ride was discussed a while back, but I don't think anyone can agree on what would be the perfect time for it.

If you ever feel like taking requests, we got a big drawfriend thread worth checking out, too!

>>14323

He used to be the board owner, but then he didn't show up anymore and the board got claimed. Not sure if he's been here after we started getting some more speed.

I normally don't like this mans content but this was genuinely cute

>>14329

>CD intro reference

>Knuckles dating the Master Emerald

>Amy looking like Fleetway Super

Cute stuff Sonic got what he deserved

>>14333

Good shit

Morning /sthg/

New TSR trailer out today

>>14340

>related videos

>why Sonic fans STILL want Mephiles back

We do? I wasn't aware.

>>14345

How competitive do you think Amy gets while racing?

>>14346

Probably goes from 0-100 in a matter of seconds.

And judging by TSRO, she's not above teasing if she's close to winning

>>14340

I have to wonder how the Switch version will perform compared to the others. I like getting physical games for my Switch, but I don't want it if it's not going to be 60 fps or something.

>>14348

Have we seen a lot of TSR footage on the Switch?

>>14356

Sonic looks so happy to be racing

>>14359

If I were to rank all 4 of the concept sketches:

#4 > #1 > #2 > #3

They're all pretty good, tho.

>>14359

2 > 4 > 1 > 3

>>14359

2 > 3 > 4 > 1

1 just seems overly edgy and Dreamworks-face.

Actually not sure how often this has been asked here, but:

What's your favorite OST of your favorite Sonic era?

>>14363

The problem is that if I say Generations I'm practically cheating. Short of that I think I'd go with Colors, lots of good stuff in Colors OST.

>>14366

I think I've seen that Bump before, but it's pretty cool seeing how many people have drawn Bump over the years.

>>14313

No.

>>14368

Well, Bump is a cute, simple design that isn't any specific person's OC, and she doesn't have any of the common flashy trappings of a typical OC. I think it helps that us and /sthg/ are probably some of the more dedicated, but friendly, Sonic autists, shitposters on halfchan not withstanding.

>>14372

Maybe 4 days? There's only 8 threads left until it hits.

>>14373

Awesome, I thought it was going to be months into the future or some shit. Looking forward to the art.

>>14376

From what I've seen, kids are still into Sonic but they mostly talk about it on places like amiibo these days.

They also tend to be the only good ones asking questions at Sonic cons

>>14376

>Sonic X review

>in the year of our lord 2019

why? Also literally who?

>>14378

A YTer known for reviewing cartoons.

Tbh, I haven't really seen many people outside of hardcore Sonic fans talk about X, it's kinda refreshing seeing it come up after all this time.

>>14382

So is it coming out today? Or starting next week? Just get it over with ffs

>>14383

They apparently showed the teaser at Cinema Con today.

And the rumor of the trailer using Gangsta's Paradise seems to have been true

>>14385

Actually, scratch that. We got some more info, courtesy of: https://comicbook.com/gaming/amp/2019/04/04/sonic-the-hedgehog-footage-released-at-cinemacon/?__twitter_impression=true

And this tweet describes his design: https://twitter.com/GermainLussier/status/1113867408458960896?s=19

>>14386

>so the film's team is prime to begin promoting the video game adaptation in time for the blockbuster season.

Is this just saying this or are we really this fucked? The fact they make it sound like there's one coming out this year of it, proves Iizuka saying otherwise means Sonic Team or so isn't making that and will be forcing on their game for next year. Glad Sonic Team isn't forced to tie in with this crap.

>>14387

Probably just saying it. We already know of stuff being released in conjunction with this movie, but we haven't heard anything about a video game adaptation, at least not yet.

>>14382

I was wondering what was up with the movie. It was speculated the trailer could drop before the SXSW panel but nothing happened, then it could have dropped at SXSW but nothing again, and it's been silent since then. This thing comes out in some 7 months or so and there's not even a trailer out.

>>14387

What did Iizuka say exactly? All I remember him saying is that they already had started work on the next mainline game, but I don't remember him saying anything about there not being other releases planned for this year.

>>14388

What things have we heard about? I forgot.

>>14389

>had started work on the next mainline game

That's what I mean. If it was a movie tie in it wouldn't be mainline. They'd say they are working on a new Sonic project coming out this year or something, but they didn't. So it would mean they have their own Sonic project in the works and that's all that matters, especially now.

There are videos of ~20 yo's right now doomsaying the series as a whole despite this being a foriege made movie of Sonic that if anything, if SEGA pull yet another Unleashed again, then it would paint the image it's just the west they are bad with handling Sonic. Which isn't true but that's the problem with big name companies doing stupid shit with a series you love, people act out instead of making sense on what matters. Sonic has been outsourced by many non Japanese publishers like Archie and DiC, but most of the people today don't know about this so they think this is new and series killing for Sonic. As long as Evening Star, Sumo, maybe Dimps and Sonic Team just focus on making better products, stuff like the movie will get forgotten like The Last Airbender or Dragon Ball Evolutions. Just think, do you think the DBZ fanbase thinks back on that crap movie when games like FighterZ happens? That's what Sonic needs right now, Sonic Team working on their IP and making a better example for themselves this time.

>>14390

>They'd say they are working on a new Sonic project coming out this year or something, but they didn't

They didn't say they were working on anything else but we got the announcement for all those Mario & Sonic games a week later, so I wouldn't take it that seriously. Nonetheless I think Iizuka would like to try to avoid working on a tie in game to this crap like the plague so I don't think it'd be Sonic Team behind it, but I suck at predicting things so who knows.

>>14389

I remember a Mad Libs type of thing showing up on Amazon recently for pre-order.

>>14392

Don't even know why they tried to say it's "not the final version" in this case.

>>14395

Getting some "Choose Your Fighter" vibes from this pic

Disney Sonic best Sonic

>>14397

>That Omega pic

Kek

Also, that description about Sonic being an outsider in a human world gives me some serious Sonic X vibes

>>14397

I figured the gist of this movie would be essenically a worse Sonic X but eh. I guess all this might be is just a boring movie at best, which people today is going to say is worse than a trainwreck like they did with Sonic 06. Oh well. I rather have a boring movie than a genuinely bad and hard to understand movie. Something like ShTH where it makes you feel dumb for not getting it makes me more upset then something I do get but isn't interesting.

>>14399

Brainfart, meant Gamma

Not sure if anyone here cares but /v/ is having q3 for gamenight so lots of fast and fun.

>>14403

No, for some reason I find that pretty creepy.

>>14406

Slow, but now it's the weekend so only smiles now.

>>14407

He sounds like a fag.

>>14409

I wonder, will we get another game in the future where Super Sonic is the final boss fight, as opposed to being an after-game thing?

>>14411

I want to punch the shit out of who though making a series stable fucking payable in the first place. Like, that's some real EA tier shit. It's like if Nintendo made the Fire Flower DLC for Mario.

Also, why does Kishimoto hate Super Sonic again? The only game he had Super Sonic be a final boss thing was in Black Knight and that's not really Super Sonic exactly. Ever since it's been dropped as a final boss thing every game he directed.

>>14410

>where Super Sonic is the final boss fight

While an interesting twist, I don't think fighting a totally invincible boss would be much fun.

>>14411

>at the very least they won't try to get us to pay for it again

Kek, who thought that was a good idea? They really were grasping for any way to monetize Forces huh. I wonder how they didn't do DLCs with more customizations, it's like the first thing I'd think of.

>>14412

I assume he has a philosophy that the player should not have to learn almost entirely new mechanics for the final boss of the game. And that's not an uncommon one. Common sense would say that the final boss should be a final test of the player's abilities, and most if not all 3D Super Sonic bosses barely hold any resemblance to standard Sonic gameplay.

And if that is the actual reason, what Kishimoto fails to understand is that in 3&K, Doomsday Zone was a bonus. The actual final boss was the giant Eggman robot beforehand, which had 4 phases if you count the boss immediately before that. Doomsday Zone is really just one final epic capstone for the game. They've never really replicated that since.

>>14412

I can see where it's coming from. Remember how Super Saiyan means something in the Dragon Ball franchise? Wait, it doesn't, because all the main characters use it all the damn time, if not outright surpass it. Having Sonic go super for every single final boss lowered its significance. It became expected, par for the course, no longer special. Having Sonic not go super was not only fresh, but it makes any future appearances, where he does, much more significant. It shows that Sonic is more than capable taking on tough baddies without resorting to the chaos emeralds, while allowing the super form to be an indicator that this is one boss that can't be fucked with.

>>14412

No way to know unless we ask him (or Iizuka) directly . Super Sonic final bosses have been a thing since S3&K (or S&K before I get someone replying with "Actually…") so not having them is weird. A real shame, however, is that Super Sonic has barely been playable as an ingame unlockable transformation since the classics. Colors is the only non-classic game I can think of off the top of my head that did it

>>14411

By the way, do you still have to pay to get the DLC? They made it free but I think it was for a limited time, and I don't see the DLC at all in Steam.

>>14418

AFAIK, they haven't made it paid DLC again but that is completely odd.

>>14416

That would make sense in any game but Forces

>>14415

>I assume he has a philosophy that the player should not have to learn almost entirely new mechanics for the final boss of the game.

If that's true I'll give him one good thing that his down. But at the same time, there should be a way to make that work. With Sonic 2, Super Sonic was just faster Sonic.

>>14414

Sega seems to be allergic to good ideas for dlc. Remake more old levels to continue cashing in on the nostalgia for Generations? Nah, just make a single pinball table and call it a day. Costume dlc for Forces? Nope, try to sell the super form and a meme shirt.

>>14420

Forces had a lot more issues than a lack of a Super Sonic fight.

>>14421

That would require more effort than copy-pasting a boss from a previous game

>>14419

I just checked on my PS4 . It's free

>>14425

>literally mfw I think about Sonic's future

Well, at least the M&SO games will be good. And spinoff/mobile games are doing a great job at pandering despite limited budgets so there's that too