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I was wondering if we could get a dedicated PDF thread going, and have it as either a Sticky, or referred to in the in Master Sticky: >>2 so that it can be quickly and efficiently found by newbies.
We can also have a system where if you want to share a pdf, you start your own Mega account and just share your secure link. Then others can download your pdf to their computer and then upload it to their Mega account, and you can download their pdfs to your computer and then upload them to your Mega accounts.
That way, we can have multiple mirrors of our pdf collections in the event that SHTF, and do so in a secure fashion that is void of open usernames and passwords, and direct sharing of Mega accounts that can be exploited by hacker trolls.
Here's the current collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!fIchVA7Y!owKwAgGKq9pgXrbVOnkeag
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No.15120
>>15119
Yes read all about un-reconstructed Germanic Christians but whatever you do don't read about (((Early Christianity))) and "evil" National Socialism. There are also many in Africa who have yet not heard of our lord and his deeds, I recommend adoption. You should also be donating or even working in (((the holyland))) if you want to go to heaven.
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No.15123
>>15120
>makes suggestions on where to continue to fuel an interest in a specific culture
>a supposed reply about something entirely different.
I don't see how that's relevant to medieval north-Germanic culture.
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No.15125
>>14947
True weakness is giving into love of the world. It is easy to simply go along with your base human instincts. It is all too pathetically easy to give in to love of the material. The pursuit of status. To petty vengeance and narcissism.
>>14948
In retrospect, I realize now more than ever how foolish I was, and brushed inconvenient truths under the carpet that were right in front of me. I remember a saga from the collection "The Sagas of Icelanders" in which a blood feud was started over the possession of a headdress. Two families, literally proceeded to murder each other, over a stupid headdress. I'm not even exaggerating. Look it up:
https://www.amazon.com/Sagas-Icelanders-World-ebook/dp/B002RI9HVQ/ref=sr_1_1
The Saga of the Volsungs? Nothing more than a depressing endless cycle of violence based on petty vengeance. Heathenry is not a transcendent worldview, it's a worldview that encourages you to roll around in the filth of the world like a pig in mud.
>>15028
You speak the truth about my mental instability. But you lie about rabbis speaking. You see, the one true God has enough respect for his creation to communicate indirectly and subtly. It is the Devil and his children who speak directly and with ostentation. Preying on your weak human pride. I went through countless medications over the course of the worst year of my life trying to get it to stop. I finally cry out to God and shortly after the right medication comes along that cures me of my mental illness with few side effects.
The pagan gods inflicted me with madness. God saved me. 'Nuff said.
I know you won't listen, but I implore you and others: for the love of all that is holy, get away from them. They are not the noble gods you think they are. They are degenerates of the worst kind. The various warnings about Odin being a backstabber littered throughout Heathen literature are absolutely true. He is a sociopath who will use you till you are broken, and then throw you away.
You don't have to become a leftist. I'm going to tell you like it is: if anything is going to save us from the Left and the Migrant Barbarians, it's Right Wing Christianity:
https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/04/26/50000-in-poland-march-for-christianity-against-muslim-invasion/
Going over to Europe and starting a Pagan revival in time? A childish fantasy. I love you all, but seriously, grow up.
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No.15126
>>15125
>>>/cucktianity/
>I finally cry out to God and shortly after the right medication comes along that cures me of my mental illness with few side effects.
There's a pill that will send you even closer to yahweh: cyanide pill.
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No.15128
>>15125
>In retrospect, I realize now more than ever how foolish I was, and brushed inconvenient truths under the carpet that were right in front of me. I remember a saga from the collection "The Sagas of Icelanders" in which a blood feud was started over the possession of a headdress. Two families, literally proceeded to murder each other, over a stupid headdress. I'm not even exaggerating. Look it up
Njáls Saga; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nj%C3%A1ls_saga
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No.15134
>>15132
Is this all you post?
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No.15136
>>15134
How come you're so offended by an anon welcoming a brother in Christ back to the faith?
How come that >>15119 >>15125 and >>15128 flew right by you?
I'd be willing to debate you on all points you made in that picture, if you'd be willing and able to provide reliable sources to back it up, too.
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No.15137
>>15125
I would argue with you in good faith but at no point did you ever present an argument other than opinionated assertions, verbose platitudes and general signaling. As to be expected of that first leftism.
A shame, you say you are better now but in every way this seems a degeneration of the bright lad I knew.
For that one thing that almost seems like a point…
> remember a saga from the collection "The Sagas of Icelanders" in which a blood feud was started over the possession of a headdress. Two families, literally proceeded to murder each other, over a stupid headdress. I'm not even exaggerating. Look it up:
As opposed to those hatfields and mccoys who argued and spilled their childrens blood over a single sow and whom were undoubtedly the transcendent and otherworldly followers of the god above all? At least the headdress had familial meaning.
>But they were being bad christians, but also those guys in iceland were doing all paganism ever does because this is expedient for what I'm now inculcated into.
Leftism is prone to double think, mhmm.
As for your friends, they didn't read the rules about what thread to keep their strutting in so whatever happens to them is their own doing alone
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No.15138
>>15125
>The Saga of the Volsungs? Nothing more than a depressing endless cycle of violence based on petty vengeance. Heathenry is not a transcendent worldview, it's a worldview that encourages you to roll around in the filth of the world like a pig in mud.
You are free to hold that worldview, but why be a Christian? The Bible is full of wars and genocides, many of them worse then the tribal conflict in our ancient literature.
Honestly, I think your just another example of an atheist in christian clothing.
We fight and war with each other, to become stronger, to overcome ourselves, to (and this is the major point in the germanic faith) prepare ourselves for the end battle between the forces of chaos and order.
>>15125
>Going over to Europe and starting a Pagan revival in time? A childish fantasy. I love you all, but seriously, grow up.
There won't be a pagan revival, because paganism is a christian concept and doesn't excist. We don't need a pagan revival, because we are not pagans, but germanic and nordics and those are states of our blood that we already posses.
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No.15139
>>15125
>oy vei your ancestors were violent don't be like them
When something is stolen from the family; a Heathen gets a weapon.
When someone is raped in the family; a christian is quick to to his knees.
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No.15143
>>15137
Longinus, I pray that the Lord will have you follow a path similar to your User Namesake. In particular, I pray that you will pray to both the gods and God, asking "who is the true God?" I pray others take this challenge. You may be surprised.
No argument, logical or otherwise, will win you over. It is a moment of faith that must be experienced.
>>15137
>>15138
>>15139
Wars, genocides, Hatfields and Mcoys will always be with us. Indeed, the Old Testament in particular is full of savagery. A savagry that paves the way to greater mercy in the New Covenant.
As time goes on, such violence is increasingly viewed as aberrant and something to overcome. The Heathen worldview, on the other hand, actively enabled and encouraged it.
From "The Culture of the Teutons Vol 1." page 18:
>The barbarian does not move. He stands stiffly, uninvitingly. If he speaks, his words convey no meaning to us. He has killed a man.
>"Why did you kill that man", we ask.
>"I killed him in revenge." -
>"How had he offended you?" -
>"His father had spoken ill words to my father's brother, therefore I craved honour as due from him to us." -
>"Why did you not take the life of the offender himself?" -
>"This was a better man."
That's literally the mentality that prevailed: "Waaaaah! His daddy said mean things to my uncle, but his father is unavailable to be killed, so I'm going to kill him, because since he is an upstanding respectable member of the community (i.e. "better man") his death makes things even!"
>"THIS IS WHAT HEATHENS ACTUALLY BELIEVE" *flashing on the screen.*
The Sagas are filled to the brim with tales of conflict erupting over material goods or petty slights to ego. It's not treated as horrific or tragic, nor eventually really moved beyond, (they tried with the weregild system, with limited success) but rather a simple fact of life. And this infamous tradition is reflected in modern Heathenry today (anyone else remember the infamous "One Drop Saga" on this board?)
While I was a member of the Asatru Folk Assembly, I would listen in to some of their streaming radio shows. One of the most obnoxiously repetitive themes that one of the hosts would go over, time and time again, was the prevalence of petty bickering and infighting over ego.
What? A worldview that encourages out of control ego having *gasp* conflicts of ego? Wholda thunk?
What's sad is that he would go into passionate tirades like a fire and brimstone Christian pastor about rising above ego. I pray he gets into the faith where that kind of talk would truly be appreciated.
>>15119
Thanks, I'll check those out.
>>15117
>>15132
Thanks, It is good to be home.
>>15139
Lol. You wouldn't go to reddit for asatru would you? Why would you go to reddit for Christianity? Friends don't let friends reddit.
>>15126
This made me Lol!
>Shadow_the_Hedgehog_Ow_The_Edge.jpg
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No.15144
Ignore the cuck, did anyone at least back up the mega? That's what's important.
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No.15145
Actually what the fuck am I doing, I have some other stuff here. I return from my slumber from this board bringing wisdom.
https://mega.nz/#F!HR5WnTyD!Fu0v3uJF2vfXRNqzeXxUZQ
further reading, good books, beginners material, etc are all here.
https://mega.nz/#F!tj4QjTba!oD27lPXLqfg0Jk6Xw7_kZw!FzBg1bpC
memes, redpill infographics, etc are contained in this mega
https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ
all sorts of occult stuff - caution - not only our type of paganism
https://mega.nz/#F!dlZlDbqL!TXG5bGvWufONkrQAL7b7jA
/his/ mega, lots of stuff on overall religions and cultures of peoples. Will help to see how religion affects peoples
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No.15146
Actually, hiatus would probably be a better term in hindsight.
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No.15147
>>14977
Oh shit we already got one back up.
Well, consider these megas to be supplements.
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No.15148
>>15143
>Wars, genocides, Hatfields and Mcoys will always be with us. Indeed, the Old Testament in particular is full of savagery. A savagry that paves the way to greater mercy in the New Covenant.
>
>As time goes on, such violence is increasingly viewed as aberrant and something to overcome. The Heathen worldview, on the other hand, actively enabled and encouraged it.
That's all fine, but it's wrong on two accounts.
1. That is not the Christian worldview, that's a progressive humanist conception of history.
2. The Christian worldview is actually highly similar to the Germanic worldview to which it is related.
Which is: "We inhabit a universe that is declining and becoming more and more perverse, until the forces of chaos/evil overtake this existence and a new world is born"
You are not a Christian, but a progressive humanist.
>>15143
>That's literally the mentality that prevailed: "Waaaaah! His daddy said mean things to my uncle, but his father is unavailable to be killed, so I'm going to kill him, because since he is an upstanding respectable member of the community (i.e. "better man") his death makes things even!"
Why the Hell would I even take that quote or the author in question serious?
>>15143
>What? A worldview that encourages out of control ego having *gasp* conflicts of ego? Wholda thunk?
But there is no concept of ego within the Germanic faith, that's an aspect of Christian teachings. There is the concept of an all encompasing destiny, which includes all human beings.
In fact, Christianity is far more divided then almost any religious community, with thousands of cults and communities.
I mean, take yourself as an example, you say you are against ego, war, petty bickering, infighting etc..
Yet, what is it you are doing here?
Exactly.
So say you are against war and fighting for material things, yet your attitude clearly shows this is just a smokescreen.
It's just a game you atheists play, you pretend you are against war and bickering, while at the same time sharpening your swords and preparing to strike.
It's all just a game you play.
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No.15149
>>15143
>>15143
>>15143
Except the family is one. To kill a member of the family is to damage the family itself. I'm starting to think the "Christianity is original leftism" is true. Individualism is cancer.
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No.15150
>>15148
>That's all fine…
I already said wars and genocides will always be. You are twisting my words into the progressive humanist you want me to be. The New Covenant discourages it, and encourages us to resist this impulse. The Heathen worldview encourages it as evidenced by the quote I cited. Speaking of which….
>Why the Hell would I even take that quote or the author in question serious?
The Culture of the Teutons was written by an actual scholar of the Germanic worldview. Read it sometime. You are willfully dodging the issue.
>But there is no concept of ego within the Germanic faith…
LOL! Because there's absolutely no drive in Heathenry whatsoever to be buried with a lot of toys, and have a runestone carved to one's memory by achieving as much glory and fame in this life as possible…. oh, wait….
>In fact, Christianity is far more divided then almost any religious community
Yet there is still much more of a spirit of ecumenism and drive for unity, and larger and more prosperous organizations than there will ever be in Heathenry. If I had a dollar for every micro tribe that have come and gone or split apart in Heathenry, I'd be a millionaire. Can you seriously name any other right wing Heathen organization other than the Asatru Folk Assembly that has it's act remotely together?
>Yet, what is it you are doing here?
Yes, trying to win you over to Christ is the promotion of petty infighti… wait, I'm not even a part of Heathenry anymore…. so how is this infighting? Isn't this inter-tribal?
>It's just a game you atheists play..
By trying to win you over to Christ, I'm an Atheist….. ooooooooooooookay.
>>15149
Ironically, it is precisely this mentality that lead to blood feuds, which often wiped out entire family lines due to retributive violence.
>>15149
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No.15151
Opposing Views Thread:
>>14534
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No.15152
>>15150
>I already said wars and genocides will always be. You are twisting my words into the progressive humanist you want me to be. The New Covenant discourages it, and encourages us to resist this impulse. The Heathen worldview encourages it as evidenced by the quote I cited. Speaking of which….
It will always be, but we can resists it's impulse?
If it will always be, then it's the law of the land, to resist it is to fall to that law, which would be an act of defeat.
>>15150
>The Culture of the Teutons was written by an actual scholar of the Germanic worldview. Read it sometime. You are willfully dodging the issue.
Alright, now WHY would I accept his particulair interpretation. Let me remind you that academic scholars are attacking your Christian religion right now.
>>15150
>LOL! Because there's absolutely no drive in Heathenry whatsoever to be buried with a lot of toys, and have a runestone carved to one's memory by achieving as much glory and fame in this life as possible…. oh, wait….
Excuse me, that's a natural human impulse and certainly is not covered by the concept of ego.
You basically admit that in your mind Christianity is ego driven, since most Christians enjoy their toys and set up gravestone, again proving you aren't really a Christian, but some misanthrope.
>>15150
>Yet there is still much more of a spirit of ecumenism and drive for unity, and larger and more prosperous organizations than there will ever be in Heathenry. If I had a dollar for every micro tribe that have come and gone or split apart in Heathenry, I'd be a millionaire. Can you seriously name any other right wing Heathen organization other than the Asatru Folk Assembly that has it's act remotely together?
There are no genuine cults and religions in germanic heathenry, because we are not Christians, it's supposed to be loose and with unclear bounderies, because we are not sectarian dogmaticsts.
I know this is difficult to understand, but we are a culture and a faith and not a religion, with dogmatic rules.
>>15150
>Yes, trying to win you over to Christ is the promotion of petty infighti… wait, I'm not even a part of Heathenry anymore…. so how is this infighting? Isn't this inter-tribal?
Ah, I see, so you are allowed to bicker and fight as long as they are not fellow Christians, kinda like heathens bicker and fight with people of different tribes.
But you are totally different and totally not a hypocrite, who is just moralizing to appear better then other people.
>>15150
>By trying to win you over to Christ, I'm an Atheist….. ooooooooooooookay.
Jesus was just a man, so yes, trying to win me over to the teachings of a mortal man would be atheism.
>>15150
>Ironically, it is precisely this mentality that lead to blood feuds, which often wiped out entire family lines due to retributive violence.
Right, because exterminating the populations of entire countries, because they followed the wrong kind of Christianity is somehow not terrible.
Atleast the tribes primarily kept it to small feuds, you Christians almost invented mass-genocides.
But he, atleast your not fighting for your property, but for meaningless dogma's most people don't fully understand.
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No.15153
>>15152
>If it will always be, then it's the law of the land,
In other words "Oh well."
>Alright, now WHY would I accept his particulair interpretation.
Because it's backed up by the behavior and mores of Heathens as recorded in the Sagas and history.
>Excuse me, that's a natural human impulse and certainly is not covered by the concept of ego.
Yes it is natural. Which is why people do it to this day. Does not excuse not striving against and trying to rise above it.
>it's supposed to be loose and with unclear bounderies,
I understand this perfectly. It's why modern Heathenry is such a chaotic mess, and why it ultimately fell to a much more unified and organized Christianity in the first place.
>Ah, I see, so you are allowed to bicker and fight
At worst, maybe I've been a bit sarcastic at times, but for the most part, I've been trying to be civil in this debate. Exhortations to eat cyanide pills have not been coming from me.
>Jesus was just a man, so yes, trying to win me over to the teachings of a mortal man would be atheism.
That is some mental gymnastics you've got going on there.
>Right, because exterminating the populations of entire countries, because they followed the wrong kind of Christianity is somehow not terrible.
You got me with a tough one there. Indeed it was terrible. Of course the key word here is "was." I don't see too many Christians nowadays doing this sort of thing. I'm not sure if the blood feud thing would've continued or not if Heathenry progressed uninterrupted. Plus, considering the Cathars were pushing Gnosticism, a Satanic inversion of Christianity, it might fit under the category of a regrettably just war.
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No.15154
>>15153
>In other words "Oh well."
Your words not mine.
>Because it's backed up by the behavior and mores of Heathens as recorded in the Sagas and history.
So not actually religious literature, but seculiar literature like sagas and histories.
By that logic I could take the common fact that Christians are childmolesters, to interpret Christianity to be about molesting children, he your logic not mine.
Also, you're still not actually awnsering my question why I should accept that academic.
>Yes it is natural. Which is why people do it to this day. Does not excuse not striving against and trying to rise above it.
Again, that's very nice, but you are basically admitting that you are not attacking paganism, but humanity, so what is your problem with paganism again? That it's human?
Well…. I think you will find all human things are human…
>I understand this perfectly. It's why modern Heathenry is such a chaotic mess, and why it ultimately fell to a much more unified and organized Christianity in the first place.
Exactly, we offer freedom, you totalitarianism, until of course the poison of christianity goes to deep and you have an entire society splitting again and again into dogmatic cults, instaid of looking past minor differences.
>At worst, maybe I've been a bit sarcastic at times, but for the most part, I've been trying to be civil in this debate. Exhortations to eat cyanide pills have not been coming from me.
Yes, that's right, moral precepts only apply to other people, not to you.
If you are truly against fighting and bickering, you wouldn't be a Christian trying to spread the faith, but a lonely monk.
>That is some mental gymnastics you've got going on there.
Right and you are going to explain why it's mental gymnastics, or are you saying your conception of God isn't purely ideological, with no grounding in reality.
Essentially making you an atheist.
>>15153
>You got me with a tough one there. Indeed it was terrible. Of course the key word here is "was." I don't see too many Christians nowadays doing this sort of thing.
Ireland, Ukraine, Congo, Balkans, several civil wars in South-America, the American wars in the Middle East, all of them strongly christian influences.
> I'm not sure if the blood feud thing would've continued or not if Heathenry progressed uninterrupted.
I doubt it, the natural result of urbanisation.
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No.15157
>>15110
Fair man, not going to insist that the quality or nature of discussion is what you're after - in truth, I've probably talked more there about archaeo-genetics and lifting than I have about Paganism itself - but your sense of its dedness is weird, it's seen consistently good traffic as far as I've seen. There are daily lulls in activity but equally, daily flowing conversations. At any rate, while I think giving the place another look and trying to get some more discussion of Paganism beyond putting forward pet theories would be worthwhile, I'm glad to see you're around and have remained sane. You say that Pagan discord posted in another thread here is good? You post there much?
>>15125
>True weakness is giving into love of the world
I might agree, which is why Paganism is best understood from a Radical Traditionalist perspective. The true Aryan mindset is neither a love of the world, nor a rejection of it. It must be accepted, and it must be understood that here in this world we can act in ways accordance with what is above us, or in ways in accordance with what is below us. There are no profane realms, there is only a profane point of view.
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No.15198
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No.15849
This thread is a shining example of how the ill in mind should be prevented from reproducing.
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No.15898
Notice that none of the Christcucks here talked about abortion and how Christcucks like them oppose it and other versions of population control even when done on Niggers.
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No.15901
Here you go, the book Elves, Wights and Trolls. Very informative.
https://dbr.ee/dfbI
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No.16115
where do i start with heidegger?
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No.16129
>>16115
>de.metapedia.org/wiki/Heidegger#Werke_.28Auswahl.29
Do make sure to delve into his "black notebooks" aka the Schwarze Hefte aswell, after they were discovered in 2014 the ZOG's intelligentsia at the bolshevist unis et al went apeshit and started a massive smear campaign against him, needless to say even the last folkish-alligned germanic intellectual had embraced him too at that time heh
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No.16136
>>15901
Holy fuck, you're amazing. Thank you so much
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No.16140
>>16115
Introduction to Metaphysics perhaps? Idk. I've been meaning to get into his work for a while now, I seem to remember that book being recommended as a starting point but also that it might be a good idea to read some philosophers that came before him too. I forget which ones.
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No.16147
>>16129
>black notebooks
how do i read those in english? any pdfs around?
also should i read any of his more standard works (relevant to paganism of the JQ)? where do i start with those?
thanks in advance
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No.16148
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No.16222
Does anyone have the Mabinogi? Specifically the first and fourth branch.
~Thank you
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No.16223
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No.16225
>>16223
Not the maginobi I was expecting but thanks
kek
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No.17939
BO the Zundel link shud prolly be removed seeing as the board was shut down no
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No.18494
new website with free (pagan/asatru/heathen) e-books here:
http://hravan.com/
worth checking out
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No.18495
>>18494
Jeez that one's nu alright, joogle hasn't even crawled it yet heh
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No.18667
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No.18668
Cool book published during the reign of Adolf Hitler, König der Deutschen.
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No.19129
Mimisbrunnr, Assorted Essays by Collin Cleary (2013-2018)
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No.19387
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No.19483
Does anyone have "Rudiments of Runelore" by Stephen Pollington, or "Runes: An Introduction" by Ralph Warren Victor Elliott? Can't seem to find them anywhere.
In exchange, here is Raymond Page's "An Introduction to English Runes". Not the best conversion ever, but it was the only one I could find, and it doesn't appear to have been posted here yet.
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No.19518
>>19483
Some books are nearly impossible to find as ebooks. I just ordered a new copy of Rudiments of Runelore from Amazon for $10 with some other books. Thriftbooks has a great selection of used books for cheaper and you can sometimes find rare books on there too.
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No.19540
Any chance of someone having a copy of Thorsson's Source Book of Seid handy? I can find a scan online, but the actual PDF download is broken.
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No.19548
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No.19550
>>19540
Are you referring to Scribd? Scribd has it but I don't have a paid account to download it.
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No.19551
>>19483
>>19518
Bought some used and new books last week that all came in the mail, some I already have as ebook but wanted a hardcopy. Some of the used books are in new condition.
Rudiments of Runelore is very good but I'm a little disappointed for how small it is, however, the the quality makes up for the lack of quantity. It discusses the origins of the runes, Old Norse and etymology, some relative history, artifacts found with runic inscriptions, format styles such as the page shown, and rune poems. The end of the book has a good bibliography as well, listing works like Toward a New Runic Grammar by Elmer H. Antonsen from The Nordic Languages & Modern Linguistics of 1970 and The Germanic Languages: Origins & Early Dialectal Interrelations by Hans Frede Nielsen from University of Alabam Press of 1989. I would say this book is very much worth getting.
Reading the Past: Runes is mostly about runic inscriptions found on stones and other artifacts, most shown as photographs and a few as drawings. It's also a thin book but the text is very small, maybe a little too small. It provides some history behind the inscriptions, like how Germanic men carried knives on them so carving names into wood to create labels for goods was actually a practical method at the time, as creating ink for feathers was quite a process. It also compares runes and goes a little in-depth into the meanings of words. The bibliography is small but points to works that look very good, with the main recommendation being Introduction à la runologie by L. Musset from Paris of 1965, a French work. I bought this used for $5 off Amazon with free shipping, so the price is very good.
Chronicles of the Vikings is okay. There isn't much to gain from this as it takes samples from various sagas and then Page throws in his thoughts and explanations. It's like the type of book one would find in an introductory college course or a book that one would buy for somebody that is completely new to the Norse world. It might be a good reference book if you need to use Page's words as supporting evidence or something. It's quite cheap though so there must be plenty of used copies around.
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No.19568
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