/asatru/ - Asatru / Heathenry / Paganism

This is a pretty good idea. Sadly, I have no pdfs to contribute.

This board doesn't take epub, the vastly superior format for e-reading, so I too have little to contribute.

>Not having an ereader

It's like you don't even want to lock focus and read for hours on end like books without the eyestrain of doing so on a glowing screen.

>>9734

If you have some good epubs, upload 'em to your Mega account for us to download. I'll make a separate folder for epubs.

There's an article called "The Hammer and the Pentagram" floating around out there that goes into detail of why Asatru and Wicca are fundamentally incompatible. It's a good read.

>>9737

Indeed.

It's in the current collection folder "8chan Asatru PDF collection" in the folder titled "Comparing Asatru to Wicca."

>>9731

New folders and pdfs are up in the collection fams:

"Lady with the Mead Cup" folder - containing a pdf of the book "Lady with the Mead Cup: Ritual, Prophecy and Lordship in the European Warband from La Tene to the Viking Age." By Michael J. Enright.

"The Maiden with the Mead" folder - containing a pdf of the book: "Maiden with the Mead: A Goddess of Initiation In Norse Mythology?" By Maria Kvilhaug.

"The Runes" folder - containing a pdf of the book: "The Rune Primer: A Down-to-Earth Guide to the Runes." By Sweyn Plowright.

I hope "The Runes" folder will eventually become a repository in general for books on the runes.

Till then, enjoy!

Anyone have "We Are Our Deeds"?

>>9744

I haven't been able to find the pdf or epub or whatnot, but I do own the book, and it's rather short, so when I get some time I can just scan it in and make a pdf of it.

>>9752

I remember this book by Dumezil being pretty damn good when I checked it out from a library:

http://www.amazon.com/Northmen-Comparative-Folklore-Mythology-Publications/dp/0520035070/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1456901517&sr=8-2&keywords=Georges+Dum%C3%A9zil

…and would love to get my hands on a digital copy of this or any of his other works to add to the collection. Alas, no such luck yet.

As for Glob, never heard of him until you mentioned him. Thank your for bringing him up, because not only does his work seem rock solid:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Glob

…but it's also on the more affordable side:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Peter+Vilhelm+Glob

So I may just buy it and scan it in.

>>9759

I have pdfs of that one, The Archaic Roman Religion (both volumes), The Destiny of a King, The Destiny of a Warrior, The Plight of a Sorcerer, Camillus: A Study of Indo-European Religion As Roman History and Mitra-Varuna: An Essay on Two Indo-European Represenations of Sovereignty.

I could start a thread on /pdfs/ and upload them if I have the time. (Have work in the morning)

Not a PDF but this contains some very useful information about Celtiberian customs and traditions, for any friends from Iberia.

https://www4.uwm.edu/celtic/ekeltoi/volumes/vol6/index.html

Also have an actual PDF (or whatever format you want), since it doesn't seem to be here yet:

https://archive.org/details/OnBeingAPagan

>>9759

>>9760

Just realized most of them are too big, here:

Gods of the Ancient Northmen

http://libgen.io/ads.php?md5=072c0e291b6ba0a25f98edee15a23475

Mitra-Varuna: An Essay on Two Indo-European Representations of Sovereignty

http://libgen.io/ads.php?md5=7A6D11505123BE4E333C0FD3E91A3245

Archaic Roman religion: with an appendix on the religion of the Etruscans

http://libgen.io/ads.php?md5=f96b3756c268d2c0570a272bcdbe2da2

Camillus: A Study of Indo-European Religion As Roman History

http://libgen.io/ads.php?md5=2bfd83fbac6d8091d492154fd197ded7

Plight of a Sorcerer

http://libgen.io/ads.php?md5=18fd1ee461853f9302ea45253c4feafd

The Destiny of the Warrior

http://libgen.io/ads.php?md5=2EA20D927457753C793B2FA984A0E923

The stakes of the warrior

http://libgen.io/ads.php?md5=9496C277778D533D9291AE5A7C8FF7B1

The Destiny of a King

http://libgen.io/ads.php?md5=c198e557f6c582049ab94cfd85b1b467

>>9760

>>9763

>>9764

>>9769

Frickin' awesome. Thank you for these. I will have these up in the collection by this weekend as soon as I get time.

>>9759

http://www.amazon.com/P.-V-Glob/e/B000APTCQ8/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1457045012&sr=8-1

Shout out, once again, to the following posters for the new folders and pdfs up in the collection:

>>9760

>>9763

>>9764

>>9769

Here is the new content:

All volumes and book reviews of e-Keltoi, referenced by >>9763 are in the folder - "e-Keltoi Journal of Interdisciplinary Celtic Studies" (Note: Vol 3 has not been completed by the organization, so is not present yet.)

Alain de Benoist's "On Being a Pagan", posted by >>9764 is in the folder - "On Being a Pagan by Alain de Benoist."

All books by Georges Dumezil, posted by >>9769 are now in the folder - "Books by Georges Dumezil."

Enjoy!

>>9773

Thanks for this link. Much clearer than the link I posted and gives me more to work with.

>>9837

Thanks for finding this.

>>9839

There's some stinkers, but also a lot of good ones. I'll sort through when I get time.

RIP 4 lyfe, Bolwerk.

>>9837

Actually, if you look at the "links" there anything that isn't wiccan trash is actually from heathengods*com/library/ anyway. All the "sex magixckek by willowsong ravenflower" is exclusive to that place.

>>9860

ps: Upon review the heathengods library is the actual fucking goldmine. It even has more text than are just in the library linked on the mainpage and their library itself is much more than the "othrierur kindred" people chose to direct-link on their page.

Delicious reading for weeks.

>>9860

>RIP 4 lyfe, Bolwerk

Lol, I'm still here, tried to get up with you on Friday. Will try again earlier in the day this Friday.

>>9861

Well, if all the good parts are only from the Temple of Our Heathen Gods Library, that saves me a lot of time, because I already got all that stuff and then some up on the Mega archive. Sweet.

>>9863

There are a few conspicuous things missing like the contents of

http://www.heathengods*com/bookstore/index.htm

and some of the other front-page links, like several translations of things. They have some in the library, but then others on the main page and not present in the library (like several more translations of the havamal in the havamal translations page, than are in the library or the mega). You might not have gotten around to adding them to the mega though, so I might be wrong. I'm just comparing the site to the mega.

>>9874

I took care of all of that already. I even found (or made) pdfs of links that only lead to HTML pages.

I changed and reorganized the folder structure to make things a bit neater and more efficient.

For example, all the stuff under "Additional Books in order by Author" are organized into various folders in the Mega (there's a folder for all of the books in that section that are about Vinland called "Books on Viking Age Vinland" for example.)

As for the bookstore page, Heathen Tribes, Heathen Families, and Heathen Gods are in the folder "Books by Mark Stinson." Both volumes of The Culture of the Teutons are in the folder "The Culture of the Teutons." For all of the sagas in both volumes of Saga Hoard, go to the folder "Sagas and fiction based on the Sagas" and then go to the folder "Main Sagas." The Nine Books of the Danish History by Saxo Grammaticus are in the folder "Historical Sources" (Two versions)

See near the end of this thread to see some of the other updates I did to the archive:

>>9524

>>9883

Very nice indeed. If you need certain books bought to add to the collection let me know. I've been looking at some of the rarer books listed in reading lists and wondered if we shouldn't track them down and make manual copies of them, making sure to take high quality photography of any artwork. I'm not sure older books or rarer books could survive having their binders pressed flat for a good scan. I personally wanna get my hands on volumes of TYR but the price for some back issues can be a hundred dollars.

How come you can only tox once a week but can reply to /asatru/ threads all day? :^) There's tox apps for iOS and android y'know.

>>9885

Will definitely let you know. Issues 2-4 for Tyr seem possibly feasible in the future:

http://www.amazon.com/Joshua-Buckley/e/B00RI1D6WS/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1458245610&sr=1-1

But Vol 1, sheesh, you weren't kidding:

http://www.amazon.com/TYR-Myth-Culture-Tradition-Vol/dp/0972029206/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1458245610&sr=1-5&keywords=tyr

Also, unfortunately, I do not have a smartphone, I literally have dumbphone (i.e. old-school simple flip phone) for financial reasons.

With my tight schedule right now (currently working on polishing up portfolio for submission at the end of April) doing a post or two on /asatru/ ain't a big deal. I can just type a post in about 5 minutes or less, and then be done with it. But an online conversation demands more time and attention. I can enjoy it so much I can easily lose track of time and before I know it, 3 or 4 hours have gone by, so I gotta be a bit more tight about that.

>>9895

>Vol1

I almost have to wonder if we could write the producers directly to make a kindle version to break the bottleneck of the information. I've also found a really high quality reading list of roman paganism but the books there are of academic grade and as such start at around the 50usd mark (and due to academic jewry even kindle versions must be rented for 30usd or bought at the same 50usd)…

I've hit a bit of a roadblock on slavic material in english so I've been branching out a bit. I only can read cyrillic the script but beyond that my vocabulary in actual slavic languages is less than 300 words…

>I can enjoy it so much I can easily lose track of time and before I know it, 3 or 4 hours have gone by, so I gotta be a bit more tight about that.

Perhaps I am just that conversational :^)

>>9896

Here's TYR Vol. 1, if you don't have it yet.

https://mega.nz/#!Z5Qlma7D!022T1hV1YydFg5Q6skq7jwyzH9trbMD8Mjzxq1KWthU

If you post the roman reading list I can try to find some stuff too.

>>9901

Question: What do you and Amadeus Mozart have in common?

Answer: You both Rock Me.

Thanks to you, magnificent gentleman, Tyr Vol 1 is now up in the folder "Tyr Journal."

>>9908

Here's what I found so far, including some extras that seemed interesting and/or related.

https://mega.nz/#F!U5hRFILL!cWi_1HxYaMwoECvuTmCtMA

This is all from libgen actually, including TYR. I have access to a couple of the ones that I haven't found online through my university, but they're in a campus that is like 2 hours away from me.

I can also download and share research papers, essays and stuff like that if they're behind a paywall.

I think I also have some more books in my main computer that I can share, I'll check tomorrow.

>>9908

>>9914

>>9922

Awesome work you two.

The PDF archive is now subdivided into three folders:

"Germanic - Scandinavian - Anglo-Saxon Heathenry"

"Celtic Heathenry"

"Greco-Roman Heathenry"

All the Greco-Roman texts are uploaded to said folder now. I'll subdivide it into more as the that section grows.

Right now the "Celtic Heathenry" folder just has the e-Keltoi academic journal collection, but hopefully that folder will grow as well.

The vast bulk of everything is the Germanic section right now.

Thanks again for all your help.

>>9922

>libgen

How about that, I thought that place disappeared after ((Elsevier)) "shut it down". Just snagged the new mirror domain now.

>>9944 (doubledubs)

He lives! I can tell you from what I'm looking at here you will want to split greece and rome, my roman list when done will rival what we already have in the asatru section, I could compile a greek list just as large if not larger.

>>9968

>is not the hallmark of pre-christianity that state, race, religion, culture and so on are all one in the same?

Precisely.

>Perhaps starting with the most written about and well recorded (Rome) was a bit… bold.

We gotta do it sometime. Don't think of it in terms of "as quickly as possible." Another hallmark of Classical civilization is thinking in the long term. Paintings that take months or even a year or two to complete. Architecture that is finished in the span of decades. Trees planted in whose shade you will never lie. Or to put it in the most obvious, cliche' and relevant manner possible: "Rome wasn't built in a day."

We break it down little by little into bite sized chunks. We take breaks if we get sick of it, and come back. If Rome's corpus is that gargantuan, multiple people rather than one would be best for sorting through it, and so on and so on.

Or perhaps even starting with a culture with a smaller corpus and gradually picking off Rome on the side might even be a better long term strategy.

Let me now what you need.

>>9745

This please.

>>10008

I bought a few titles by Dmitry Kushnir from amazon for a few bucks on a whim due to the lack of english material… But I can't tell if they're basically fanfiction or not as the reading to be done on the matter in any language I can read is so sparse.

I'm in a negative feedback loop of not knowing anything so everything seems suspect so I don't know anything.

Just recently stumbled upon a treasure trove of rare pdfs, and taking my time downloading and sorting through them to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Till then, I've gone ahead and uploaded some of the more exciting no-brainers for y'all to enjoy:

All of these are In the "Germanic-Scandinavian-Anglo-Saxon Heathenry" subfolder:

Folder - Books by Varg Vikernes -

Contents - Sorcery and Religion in Ancient Scandinavia by Varg Vikernes

Folder - Way of the Heathen

Contents - Way of the Heathen by Garman Lord

Folder - Elves, Wights and Trolls

Contents - Elves, Wights and Trolls: Studies Toward the Practice of Germanic Heathenry Vol 1 by Kveldulf Gundarsson

Folder - Germanic Heathenry A Practical Guide

Contents - Germanic Heathenry: A Practical Guide by James Hjuka Coulter

Folder- Roles of the Northern Goddess

Contents - Roles of the Northern Goddess by H.R. Ellis Davidson

Folder - The Well and the Tree

Contents - The Well and the Tree by Paul Bauschatz

And finally, thanks to this wonderful poster >>10012 Summoning the Gods by Collin Cleary is now in the folder "Summoning the Gods."

There's quite a bit more for me to download and sort through, so it's going to take me awhile to sort and organize everything, so stay tuned for more!

>>10008

Thank you for these. As >>10012 said, we have been hitting a bit of speed bump in terms of Slavic material, so these are a godssend. I'm a bit burned out right now, and am going to be fairly busy during the week, but I'll get to work converting these to pdfs or finding pdfs/epubs/etc. as soon as a can. No later than this weekend.

>>10008

>>10008

>>9996

Currently still in the process of scanning it in, so don't worry, it's coming!

>>10071

I have been looking for stuff to read in French to get back to fluent level, so if you can upload those too I'd appreciate it.

>>10079

Have a crack at it, if you speak french you're probably the best to either find these and the only candidate to read them anyway:

Apollon Romain: Essai Sur Le Culte D'Apollon Et Le Développement Du 'ritus Graecus' à Rome Des Origines à Auguste - Jean Gagé

Bibliotheque Des Ecoles Francaises D'Athenes Et De Rome: Apollon Romain - Jean Gagé

Choisir Dionysos - Anne-Francoise Jaccottet

Corpus de prières grecques et romaines - Frédéric Chapot, Bernard Laurot

Fortuna: Recherches sur le culte de la Fortune a Rome et dans le monde romain des origines a la mort de Cesar - Jacqueline Champeaux

La religion romaine de Vénus - Robert Schilling

La romanisation des dieux : l'interpretatio romana en Afrique du Nord sous le Haut-Empire - Alain Cadotte

Les assemblées provinciales dans l'empire romain - Paul Guiraud

Les Femmes à Rome Leur éducation, leur rôle dans la Société Romaine - Gaston Boissier

Les Flamines et Leurs Dieux - Domenico Fasciano, Pierre Seguin

Les origines et le développement du culte des Pénates à Rome - Annie Dubourdieu

LIiber Pater: Origine Et Expansion Du Culte Dionysiaque a Rome Et Dans Le Monde Romain - Adrien Bruhl

Mercure romain : le culte public de Mercure et la fonction mercantile à Rome de la République archaïque à l'épopque augustéenne - Bernard Combet Farnoux

Volcanus: Recherches comparatistes sur les origines du culte de Vulcain - Gerard Capdeville

Let us know if you find anything tasty.

>>10086

Here's two that were hiding in my general list before I made a french section.

Le Vestali - Maria Cristina Martini

La vie religieuse des matrones dans la Rome archaïque - Nicole Boels-Janssen

Hail all,

This update post is going to be short and sparse, because quite frankly I'm wore out. This weekend has been quite busy (and is still busy) and I've been trying to sort through and organize about 135 pdfs.

I'm taking a break until this next coming weekend. I don't want to rush and half-ass this, so I'm going to take my time and do this right.

As I type this, the files are about 63% uploaded.

The main things I've done are:

1. I've completely overhauled the folder structure of the archive to be even more organized than ever before.

2. Several new folders and sections, such as a new "Beginners" section that is still under construction but well under way. Other new folder include just basic reorganization of material that is already there, and completely new folders with new content, such as "Magic, Mysticism, Prayers, Charms and the Esoteric."

3. In addition to new material in the "Celtic Heathenry" folder, I've also started up the "Indo-European Studies and Comparative Overviews" umbrella folder.

This is not an exaustive list of the updates and additions, due to my exhaustion. Feel free to explore until I can get around to documenting everything.

Also, beware that due to an upcoming portfolio review at the end of April, but productivity throughout April on the pdf archive is probably going to slow to a crawl, and then pick up again in May.

>>10070

Awesome, thank you for this. I removed the google ad and uploaded it to the Greco-Roman Heathenry folder. The preface is indeed cringey, but I decided to keep it in for the sake of completionism.

>>10071

>>10086

>>10096

>>10144

Thank you for the awesome work, looking forward to it.

>>10008

I have not gotten to this material yet, and for that I apologize. Mark my words thought, it will be forthcoming, hopefully this weekend.

>>10008

As promised, I've got the Slavic Heathenry umbrella folder underway. It consists of the following folders and contents:

Folder - Academic Journals and Articles

Contents - Several academic articles as well as the complete collection of two Slavic academic Journals: "The Journal of Eurasian Studies" and "Studia Mythologica Slavica"

Fair warning: Studia Mythological Slavica is all over the place in terms of language (i.e. some articles are in a Slavic langauge, some are in English, etc.)

Folder - Controversial Works

Contents - The Book of Veles

I decided to put it here since its validity is hotly contested in the academic community.

>>10144 I'm considering possibly putting the Dmitriy Kushnir books in here as well.

Folder - History and Archeology

Contents -

A History of Russia Vol 1

Chronica Slavorum (cannot find an English version yet, so I put in the version you provided at the link for the time being.

Men-At-Arms Series - The Scythians

Nomads of the Eurasian Steppes in the Early Iron Age

Scythians and Greeks - A Survey of Ancient History and Archaeology on the North Coast of the Euxine from the Danube to the Caucasus

The Chronicle of Novogorod

The History of Herodotus (two versions, with Book IV emphasized in the title labeling)

The Making of the Slavs

The Russian Primary Chronicle (Laurentian Codex version)

Folder - Literature, Folktales and Poetry

Contents - Sixty Folk Tales from Exclusively Slavonic Sources

Also, we've already got a couple of translations of Gesta Denorum in the History and Archaeology folder of the Germanic-Scandinavian-Anglo-Saxon section.

Also added to the Germanic-Scandinavian-Anglo-Saxon Heathenry section under the folder "Studies of the Goddesses", thanks to >>10144 :

"Pagan Goddesses in the Early Germanic World"

Also I went ahead and added The History of Herodotus to the Greco-Roman Section.

As for the other pdfs, I put them on the back-burner in favor of getting the Slavic section underway.

Also, as I said before, I'm going to start slowing down for this month, and pick back up again in May. Please continue to post any pdfs or resources that you find. If it's a single book or a few, I'll have them up shortly. If it's a massive page of resources with like 50 something pdfs, still put it up, but it's gonna take me awhile this month, if at all.

As I type this, 21% of the files have been uploaded. I'll do another post when the upload is complete.

That's all for now, I hope y'all enjoy!

>>10253

Files are now uploaded.

Enjoy.

>>10150

Will there be any books about Thule/Hyperborea added in the future?

>>10262

That's my wheelhouse right there since I came to heathenry via natsoc esoterica (though it seems most of us had odd dreams or notions for most of our lives that would have driven us here one way or another eventually). Once I finish the Rome project I think collecting all the books I have on the matter and finding more would make an excellent change of pace.

I have a core reading list I want to complete but I'm also just snagging files I find whilst collecting them. If you want to hop onto tox and throw in I can be done that much quicker and can scrape all the related info I have.

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We have Die Thule-Gesellschaft as the overall order, within it I know of at least two separate sub-orders Die Alledeutsche-Gesellschaft für Metaphysik (aka: Die VRIL-Gesellschaft) and Die Schwarzesonne-Gesellschaft. As near as I know AGfM/VRIL dealt with extra-terrestrial affairs, SSG with inner-terrestrial affairs within the general "mysical corps" of DTG.

As for thule itself, the place, I know of at least a few books. Namely "the arctic home of the vedas".

Make votening's for standard format as I start to rename all these disparate texts:

TITLE - AUTHOR (YEAR)

AUTHOR - TITLE (YEAR)

Other/Specify

I would presume the title is the most pertinent data point when pulling up a book somebody has suggested you to read, with the author only mattering in the case of similarly titled books. I cannot see what value lumping together authors works is in a library divided by topics.

>>10272

Title first oughtta be fine, especially because of this point:

> I cannot see what value lumping together authors works is in a library divided by topics

The only exception to this is in the rare cases when almost all of an author's works deal with one specific category (i.e. Bill Linzie's works almost all exclusively dealing with worldview; Michael Smith's books mostly fitting into "Being Heathen in the Modern World," etc)

>>10278

So far, the solution I've been implementing has been to put a book that covers multiple topics simultaneously in all of relevant topic folders.

Examples:

I've put the History of Herodotus in both the "Greco-Roman Heathenry folder" and the Slavic Heathenry folder under the "History and Archeology" subfolder (with Book 4) emphasised in the folder labeling)

I've also put Micheal Smith's and Mark Stinson's books in the "Worldview" and "Being Heathen in the Modern World folders" as there is considerable overlap in these books.

I figure that it will play out something like this:

Reader reads Herodotus in the Greco-Roman folder.

Goes on to the Slavic Heathenry folder.

Sees Herodotus there again, and either makes a mental note of ti's relevance to Slavic Heathenry, or decides to crack open at least Book 4 again to take additional notes to reinforce their learning.

Or the reader will see Mark Stinson and Michael Smiths' books in both Worldview and Being Heathen in the Modern World, and reads said books mentally keeping in mind how they apply to both topics.

>>10311

I was considering that, but we DO have limited space on a mega. I guess a thought is to put a .txt called "Check out __ in _ folder" or something.

add "the germanic people" by owen

Yo B, Do we want magical materials to be its own primary over-folder, or sub-folders within each realm?

For instance, would the galdrabók and tomes like "necromancy in ancient greece and rome" be primarily within their own (asatru / roman) folders? Or both primarily under "Magic->Necromancy" with links to them in the asatru and roman sections?

>>10340

>Might is Right - Ragnar Redbeard

Ehhhhhh…. That's not an actual germanic or norse work you know? Plus I'm always more than a bit trepidatious of it due to the early LeVayan/Golden Dawn(Crowley) ties the actual english author was rumoured to have.

We have a large ground to reject LV-Satanism outright. We may have some layers of evolutionary philosophy but we're not social darwinists like that. I'll look into the other two though.

>>10347

>We have a large ground to reject LV-Satanism outright.

Agreed "Satan" is a Jewish mythological being and should be rejected for being a foreign deity.

BOOK REQUEST

"An Introduction to Roman Religion" by John Scheid is highly regarded introductory book needed for the "start here" section of roman mythology (it is a beginning textbook in several different graduate courses and study groups), I do have the funds to buy an ebook version but it's a 12usd kindle so if there's a place it can be gotten I'd appreciate one of you guys tracking it down. It's not on libgen, archive.org, bookzz, academia.edu or a few public trackers like TPB If somebody has a bibliotik account or some other trick for finding it that would be aces.

With that out of the way, I'm beginning to upload selected texts I've chosen for the "start here" section of roman mythology. An unexpected family emergency called me away for 6 hours so I wasn't able to do the entire thing. But I promised something today and something today you shall all have. I'd be damn impressed if you could read all this stuff and be wanting more before tomorrow anyway.

/pdfs/ owner here. Thanks for that Mega library guys.

Update:

>Folders Added:

•"Augury - Divination" to "Books>CDR>Roman Religion - Myth"

•"Attis and Cybele" to "Books>CDR>Cults - Mysteries"

•"Etruscans, The" to "Books>CDR>History"

>Files Added:

• "Cybele, Attis and Related Cults꞉ Essays in Memory of M.J. Vermaseren - Eugene N. Lane (1996)" to "Books>CDR>Cults - Mysteries>Attis and Cybele"

• "Soteriology and Mystic Aspects in the Cult of Cybele and Attis - Giulia Sfameni Gasparro (1985)" to "Books>CDR>Cults - Mysteries>Attis and Cybele"

• "In Search of God the Mother꞉ The Cult of Anatolian Cybele - Lynn E. Roller (1999)" to "Books>CDR>Cults - Mysteries>Attis and Cybele"

• "The Earliest Romans꞉ A Character Sketch - Ramsay MacMullen (2011)" to "Books>CDR>History"

• "Early Rome and the Etruscans - R.M. Ogilvie (1976)" to "Books>CDR>History"

• "Ancient Umbria꞉ State, Culture, and Identity in Central Italy from the Iron Age to the Augustan Era- Guy Bradley (2001)" to "Books>CDR>History"

• "Historical Dictionary of the Etruscans - Simon K.F. Stoddart (2009)" to "Books>CDR>History>Etruscans, The"

• "The Archaeology of Etruscan Society - Vedia Izzet (2008)" to "Books>CDR>History>Etruscans, The"

• "The Armenian Origin of the Etruscans - Robert Ellis (1861)" to "Books>CDR>History>Etruscans, The"

• "The Etruscan World - Jean MacIntosh Turfa (2013)" to "Books>CDR>History>Etruscans, The"

• "The Etruscans - M. Pallottino (1955)" to "Books>CDR>History>Etruscans, The"

• "The Land of the Etruscans꞉ from Prehistory to the Middle Ages - Salvatore Settis (1985)" to "Books>CDR>History>Etruscans, The"

• "The Religion of the Etruscans - Nancy Thomson de Grummond, Erika Simon (2006)" to "Books>CDR>History>Etruscans, The"

• "Public Portents in Republican Rome - Susanne William Rasmussen (2003)" to "Books>CDR>Roman Religion - Myth>Augury - Divination"

• "The Aeneid - Virgil, Robert Fagles (2010)" to "Books>CDR>Roman Religion - Myth"

• "Enemies of the Roman Order - Ramsay MacMullen (1966)" to "Books>CDR>Society"

•"Romanization in the Time of Augustus - Ramsay MacMullen(2000)" to "Books>CDR>Society"

• "Etruscan and Early Roman Architecture - Axel Boëthius (1979)" to Books>CDR>Society>Art - Architecture

• "Stars, Myths and Rituals in Etruscan Rome - Leonardo Magini (2015)" to "Books>CDR>Society>Time - Calender - Festivals"

• "Roman Book List (Alphabetical).txt" to Books. For those who want to get their hands dirty and help.

>Files Moved:

•"Roman Augury and Etruscan Divination - Paul Regell, Carl Thulin (1976)" from Books>CDR>Roman Religion - Myth" to "%>Augury - Divination"

>>10410

>>>/pdfs/3805

Don't thank us yet. We've not even properly begun.

>>10369

Pic looks like it should be art for a tabletop RPG centred around a group of Nazi occult archaeologists. Wouldplay/10,

>>10431

So much Italic material; I hope the Pizzabros are happy. To be honest, looking at other Indo-European traditions could be highly helpful in working out how to do things where Germanic sources fail to give details.

>>10498

>So much Italic material; I hope the Pizzabros are happy. To be honest, looking at other Indo-European traditions could be highly helpful in working out how to do things where Germanic sources fail to give details.

These are indeed the two prongs of the strategy.

A. Have a nice archive for of all european polytheism so those who are perhaps not germanic can be just as comfortable here (they can have a general thread if they have a sizable population).

B. Analyze in a (limited) pantheistic way the elements present in one shard of the whole that our shard might have missed or lost that we consider valuable. Snorri's work, Tacitus and a few collected -bóks and a hodgepodge of archaeology is rather… limited.

https://mega.nz/#F!UoRVwbjD!oHDXCHzZnvU-mHp7VbMs2g Update:

>Folders Added:

• "Works" to "Books>CDR>Society>Literature"

>Files Added:

• "The Pantheon of Palmyra - Javier Teixidor (1979)" to "Books>CDR>Provinces>The Orient"

• "De Natura Deorum Libri Tres꞉ With Introduction and Commentary (Volume 1) - Cicero, Jospeh B. Mayor, J. H. Swainson (2009)" to "Books>CDR>Roman Religion - Myth"

• "De Natura Deorum Libri Tres꞉ With Introduction and Commentary (Volume 2) - Cicero, Jospeh B. Mayor, J. H. Swainson (2009)" to "Books>CDR>Roman Religion - Myth"

• "De Natura Deorum Libri Tres꞉ With Introduction and Commentary (Volume 3) - Cicero, Jospeh B. Mayor, J. H. Swainson (2009)" to "Books>CDR>Roman Religion - Myth"

• "Ovid before Exile꞉ Art and Punishment in the Metamorphoses - Patricia Johnson (2008)" to "Books>CDR>Society>Literature"

• "The student's Ovid꞉ selections from the Metamorphoses - Ovid, Margaret Worsham Musgrove (2000)" to "Books>CDR>Society>Literature"

• "The Protean Ass꞉ The Metamorphoses of Apuleius from Antiquity to the Renaissance - Robert H.F. Carver (2008)" to "Books>CDR>Society>Literature"

• "The Play of Fictions꞉ Studies in Ovid's Metamorphoses Book 2 - Alison M. Keith (1992)" to "Books>CDR>Society>Literature"

• "Witches, Isis and Narrative꞉ Approaches to Magic in Apuleius' Metamorphoses - Stavros Frangoulidis (2008)" to "Books>CDR>Society>Literature"

• "A Companion to the Prologue to Apuleius' Metamorphoses - Ahuvia Kahane, Andrew Laird (2005)" to "Books>CDR>Society>Literature"

• "Metamorphoses - Ovid, Charles Martin (2005)" to "Books>CDR>Society>Literature>Works"

• "Metamorphoses - Ovid, Rolfe Humphries (1955)" to "Books>CDR>Society>Literature>Works"

• "Meditations꞉ A New Translation, with an Introduction - Marcus Aurelius, Gregory Hays (2003)" to "Books>CDR>Society>Literature>Works"

• Updated version of "Roman Book List (Alphabetical).txt" to Books. For those who want to get their hands dirty and help.

>Files Moved:

• "The Golden Ass - Apuleius, Joel C. Relihan (2007)" from "Books>CDR>Society>Literature" to "%>Works"

Greetings everyone.

Got done with the end of April business I mentioned before and will be getting back to updating the library. Expect new updates to happen more frequently now (starting with next Sunday or even sooner), and big and exciting things to come!

https://mega.nz/#F!UoRVwbjD!oHDXCHzZnvU-mHp7VbMs2g Update:

>Files Added:

• "The City of the Moon God꞉ Religious Traditions of Harran - Tamara M Green (1992)" to "Books>CDR>Cults - Mysteries"

• "The Nile Mosaic of Palestrina꞉ Early Evidence of Egyptian Religion in Italy - Paul G. P. Meyboom (1997)" to "Books>CDR>Cults>Isis - Egypt"

• "Spectacle and Society in Livy's History - Andrew Feldherr (1998)" to "Books>CDR>History"

• "Pietas꞉ Selected Studies in Roman Religion - Hendrik Wagenvoort (1980)" to "Books>CDR>Roman Religion - Myth"

• "Republicanism, Rhetoric, and Roman Political Thought꞉ Sallust, Livy, and Tacitus - Daniel J. Kapust (2011)" to "Books>CDR>Society"

• "Allusion and Intertext꞉ Dynamics of Appropriation in Roman Poetry - Stephen Hinds (1998)" to "Books>CDR>Society>Literature"

>>9837

praised be the old gods

I'll be blunt and to the point:

When I announced today as the next update day, I completely forgot that it was going to be Mother's Day.

Update delayed until tomorrow for obvious reasons.

Fear not though, it will be well worth the wait.

>>9744

>>9745

>>10015

I'd like to read "Path to the Gods: Anglo-Saxon Paganism for Beginners" if anyone has that…

>>10711

After a day spent with family on Mother's Day, I'm back on the case.

Going to be doing finishing touches on the sorting throughout the day in between other stuff. Then putting some of the individual files into folders for neatness, and of course the uploading.

It's going to be about 200 books and about 2 Gigs, so please be patient.

>>10727

Alrighty, all finished sorting (got it down to 1.2 Gigs after culling the chaff), now all I have to do is go through and make some more folders for the files themselves, and the great uploading can commence.

>>10747

All files are currently in the process of being uploaded. As I type this the upload percentage is sitting at 8%.

While waiting for the files to upload, I'm going to start documenting the updates in posts to follow.

>>10747

Files curently uploading, will proceed to document the updates while waiting on the files to upload (currently sitting at 12%.)

>>10748

>>10749

Shit, other post didn't show at first, so I accidentally made a double.

>>10751

Upload is now at 59% (Also just trying to get my damn hidden post to show. Some posts say they are "posted" but don't show up until the next post made.)

>>10758

And that's that. Everything's officially uploaded. I hope y'all enjoy and get a lot of use out of these.

I'm going to be taking it easy this week, so the next update is just going to be some maintenance and tidying up of the folder snd organization that I've been meaning to do for awhile.

Also, I think I've found enough Germanic books for a while. The next big updates, I think I'm going to try to shore up one of the other branches, like Celtic or even Indo European.

Anyone have "A World Full of Gods: An Inquiry into Polytheism"

great work on this guys looks great

how do i download it all in one go?

mega is saying file to big or some shit

>>10963

The pop-up that comes up is just a warning that some operating systems do not natively support .zip, so you might need decompression software. Just click the okay button, and your download will continue.

Is this https://mega.nz/#F!fIchVA7Y!owKwAgGKq9pgXrbVOnkeag!7dEXGAAI still the main file, and if so is Varg Vikernes book on norse mythology still there. I noticed you posted it earlier under a section title Varg Vikernes Books in the germanic section but now I cant find it.

>>11795

>Sorcery and Religion in Ancient Scandinavia

Nevermind I found it. But I found your language section to be quiet sparse. I got into Paganism from a Nazi-Linguistics perspective so I should have some sources around for that.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9QDHej9UGAdcDhWVEllMzJBSEk

is one that has a bunch of languages for all sorts of stuff. Should suit well for Roman, celtic, and Slavic heathenry.

>>11796

Thanks for this.

I'm currently back in school getting absolutely hammered by coursework, so it will be awhile before I do more maintenance.

I got an eReader recently so I might be converting some of these pdfs into epub for my own use, if I can't find existing epub versions. I'll post them here if I do.

Does anyone have Myths and Symbols in Pagan Europe? Doesn't seem to be in the Mega folder

Time to shake off the cobwebs and get this sucker going again. Albeit a slower rate, but still.

Are there any books/PDFs of the venetic/Rheatian pre Roman pantheon?

>>13308

The closest things right now are in the "Indo-European Studies and Comparitive Overviews" folder, in the "8chan Asatru PDF collection" folder (particularly the sections dealing with Vedic mythology in "The Mythology of the Aryan Nations" in said folder.)

It's definitely one of the folders that is the most ripe for further expansion. I can look for such pdfs in my spare time, and if you or others come across such pdfs I'd be happy to add them.

>>13310

This is the one I have http://paabo.ca/veneti/VENETILANG2014.pdf

I'll take a look at that folder you mentioned when I get back. Thanks

>>13308

If there are, I can't seem to find them. I've found a few pages (in Italian) that talk about the pre-Roman Venetic religion, but information is scarce and uncertain.

For example, one page claims that the Venetics only had two deities, a solar father-god (thought by the Romans to be Apollo) and a lunar mother-goddess who took the name of whatever place she was worshipped in. Both deities were healers.

The same page talks about an important sanctuary in Làgole and mentions that a deity called Trimusiat or Tribusiat was worshipped there. Scholars believe this was a male god, due to the fact that other objects found at the site point in that direction. Slovenian glottologist Matej Bor was the first to decipher a great number of Venetian inscriptions; he noted that Trimuzjat in Slovenian means "three men" and Tribuziat "three deities". According to his translations people went to Làgole mainly to be cured of their illnesses and to have their animals cured.

Another scholar, J. Savli, thinks that the Venetics had a universal deity, a trinity that symbolised the sky, the earth and the underworld. He seems to base this assumption on some depictions of a three-headed god. Like I said, information is scarce, and that's probably because the archaeological data itself leaves a lot to the imagination.

>>13312

Some of that's new to me. But the information being scarce is not. Between celticisation, romanisation, and christianisation and amateur archeaologists looking for jewelry and ignoring everything else have cleaned a lot of that area out. Then you have scholars split on whether or not they were Latin, Slavic, a Minoan/pheonician colony, or even some branch of Finnic. It's a hot mess that likely will only get messier for a while

>>13311

No prob.

The pdf you provided is now uploaded into said folder.

One bump for this one now

Are the Armanen runes a legit /asatru/ practice?

Or is it just some neo-pagan quackery?

>>13705

>>13704

IIRC the basis of the Armanen runes is that if you shine a light through some kind of crystal (I think it's quartz) at certain angles, you can make all of those runes out of the defracted light. No idea if that's actually true though, I never tried it.

>>13707

>from Vril which is the very fabric of the third density material aswell as the astral spheres

I have no idea what the hel these are. Please enlighten me

I have a book that I don't think is in the Mega, called Nine Worlds of Seid-Magic by Jenny Blain. Is she a legit author, and does anyone want me to share it?

Have any of you lads got any PDF / Book about the Thracian heathenry and the Scythian heathenry?

I cant seem to access the MEGA link. It just gives me an endless loading screen. Anyone else having this issue?

>>14059

If you have NoScript or some equivalent program running in your browser, that'll happen. If not, idk

>>9734

A poor quality PDF is still much, much easier to read than a poor quality epub if you're on an ereader.

>>14941

Top kek nigger, fight me IRL

Ban this weak faggot

>>14941

Is that a joke? Why would someone go from a literate Heathen to a nigger adopting jew-worshiper of all things?

Any proof this is the same guy?

>>14941

>Who will you worship?

Not a dead kike on a stick.

>Only 1 post for this ID on the board.

Probably a troll.

>>14941

>Is that a joke? Why would someone go from a literate Heathen to a nigger adopting jew-worshiper of all things?

This has to be a joke?

>>14941

Your descent to Hel was meant to wash you of your weakness and bring you back renewed, but you failed and that's why you are a Christian again. It is easy to be cowed by the bone-breaking reality of this life, that we are meant to be killed, and to run away in fear toward the happy cowardice and whorishness that mark the dying Christian West. If you are unable to love your family and friends or anyone other than yourself, then hugging a migrant or the King of the Jews will not help you either. Soon you will become an activist for the "human rights" of brown people against awful racists like us and you will pretend that your self-indulgent gestures of charity toward them mean anything. But you have lost the plot and we will bury you in it and forget about you and carry on without you and there will be no life thereafter for you. Trying to find meaning in books was your first mistake.

>>14941

>15 years heathen

>recently turned christian

either you didnt study enough and didnt understand your own religion well enough ( i bet for those 15 years you wore a thors hammer and called it a day)

or, youre just spiritually weak, which isnt surprising for a christian

>>14941

You do realize even priests of your kike faith preserved knowledge of all faiths because they believed in illumination?

You are pure juden.

>>9731

Any here downloaded the mega and has a backup? I can't believe someone did this bullshit

>>14048

>cuckchan filth frog on sacred art

Gas yourself for editing beautiful art with garbage faggot frog.

What about: "A practical Heathen's guide to Asatru" by M. Lafayllve

and "Asatru: A Native European Spirituality" by Stephen A. McNallen?

>>15070

This whole chan has been declining for months now unfortunately, which isn't that surprising

Bad management leads to customers frequenting other stores when there are alternatives around

>>15028

>>15070

RIP in RIP Bolwerk, but Longinus, my fucking man! It's been some time! It's Finn; I'll pop on Tox every now and again in case you do so as well. Tox aside though, if you use Discord at all, get on the Survive the Jive (solid youtube channel, if you haven't watched any of its content) Discord: https://discord.gg/9gr9NzJ . I reckon you'd like some of the discussion there, it's not d e d at all, and it'd be good to talk again.

>>15120

>makes suggestions on where to continue to fuel an interest in a specific culture

>a supposed reply about something entirely different.

I don't see how that's relevant to medieval north-Germanic culture.

>>14947

True weakness is giving into love of the world. It is easy to simply go along with your base human instincts. It is all too pathetically easy to give in to love of the material. The pursuit of status. To petty vengeance and narcissism.

>>14948

In retrospect, I realize now more than ever how foolish I was, and brushed inconvenient truths under the carpet that were right in front of me. I remember a saga from the collection "The Sagas of Icelanders" in which a blood feud was started over the possession of a headdress. Two families, literally proceeded to murder each other, over a stupid headdress. I'm not even exaggerating. Look it up:

https://www.amazon.com/Sagas-Icelanders-World-ebook/dp/B002RI9HVQ/ref=sr_1_1

The Saga of the Volsungs? Nothing more than a depressing endless cycle of violence based on petty vengeance. Heathenry is not a transcendent worldview, it's a worldview that encourages you to roll around in the filth of the world like a pig in mud.

>>15028

You speak the truth about my mental instability. But you lie about rabbis speaking. You see, the one true God has enough respect for his creation to communicate indirectly and subtly. It is the Devil and his children who speak directly and with ostentation. Preying on your weak human pride. I went through countless medications over the course of the worst year of my life trying to get it to stop. I finally cry out to God and shortly after the right medication comes along that cures me of my mental illness with few side effects.

The pagan gods inflicted me with madness. God saved me. 'Nuff said.

I know you won't listen, but I implore you and others: for the love of all that is holy, get away from them. They are not the noble gods you think they are. They are degenerates of the worst kind. The various warnings about Odin being a backstabber littered throughout Heathen literature are absolutely true. He is a sociopath who will use you till you are broken, and then throw you away.

You don't have to become a leftist. I'm going to tell you like it is: if anything is going to save us from the Left and the Migrant Barbarians, it's Right Wing Christianity:

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/04/26/50000-in-poland-march-for-christianity-against-muslim-invasion/

Going over to Europe and starting a Pagan revival in time? A childish fantasy. I love you all, but seriously, grow up.

>>15125

>>>/cucktianity/

>I finally cry out to God and shortly after the right medication comes along that cures me of my mental illness with few side effects.

There's a pill that will send you even closer to yahweh: cyanide pill.

>>15125

>In retrospect, I realize now more than ever how foolish I was, and brushed inconvenient truths under the carpet that were right in front of me. I remember a saga from the collection "The Sagas of Icelanders" in which a blood feud was started over the possession of a headdress. Two families, literally proceeded to murder each other, over a stupid headdress. I'm not even exaggerating. Look it up

Njáls Saga; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nj%C3%A1ls_saga

>>15125

>The Saga of the Volsungs? Nothing more than a depressing endless cycle of violence based on petty vengeance. Heathenry is not a transcendent worldview, it's a worldview that encourages you to roll around in the filth of the world like a pig in mud.

You are free to hold that worldview, but why be a Christian? The Bible is full of wars and genocides, many of them worse then the tribal conflict in our ancient literature.

Honestly, I think your just another example of an atheist in christian clothing.

We fight and war with each other, to become stronger, to overcome ourselves, to (and this is the major point in the germanic faith) prepare ourselves for the end battle between the forces of chaos and order.

>>15125

>Going over to Europe and starting a Pagan revival in time? A childish fantasy. I love you all, but seriously, grow up.

There won't be a pagan revival, because paganism is a christian concept and doesn't excist. We don't need a pagan revival, because we are not pagans, but germanic and nordics and those are states of our blood that we already posses.

>>15137

Longinus, I pray that the Lord will have you follow a path similar to your User Namesake. In particular, I pray that you will pray to both the gods and God, asking "who is the true God?" I pray others take this challenge. You may be surprised.

No argument, logical or otherwise, will win you over. It is a moment of faith that must be experienced.

>>15137

>>15138

>>15139

Wars, genocides, Hatfields and Mcoys will always be with us. Indeed, the Old Testament in particular is full of savagery. A savagry that paves the way to greater mercy in the New Covenant.

As time goes on, such violence is increasingly viewed as aberrant and something to overcome. The Heathen worldview, on the other hand, actively enabled and encouraged it.

From "The Culture of the Teutons Vol 1." page 18:

>The barbarian does not move. He stands stiffly, uninvitingly. If he speaks, his words convey no meaning to us. He has killed a man.

>"Why did you kill that man", we ask.

>"I killed him in revenge." -

>"How had he offended you?" -

>"His father had spoken ill words to my father's brother, therefore I craved honour as due from him to us." -

>"Why did you not take the life of the offender himself?" -

>"This was a better man."

That's literally the mentality that prevailed: "Waaaaah! His daddy said mean things to my uncle, but his father is unavailable to be killed, so I'm going to kill him, because since he is an upstanding respectable member of the community (i.e. "better man") his death makes things even!"

>"THIS IS WHAT HEATHENS ACTUALLY BELIEVE" *flashing on the screen.*

The Sagas are filled to the brim with tales of conflict erupting over material goods or petty slights to ego. It's not treated as horrific or tragic, nor eventually really moved beyond, (they tried with the weregild system, with limited success) but rather a simple fact of life. And this infamous tradition is reflected in modern Heathenry today (anyone else remember the infamous "One Drop Saga" on this board?)

While I was a member of the Asatru Folk Assembly, I would listen in to some of their streaming radio shows. One of the most obnoxiously repetitive themes that one of the hosts would go over, time and time again, was the prevalence of petty bickering and infighting over ego.

What? A worldview that encourages out of control ego having *gasp* conflicts of ego? Wholda thunk?

What's sad is that he would go into passionate tirades like a fire and brimstone Christian pastor about rising above ego. I pray he gets into the faith where that kind of talk would truly be appreciated.

>>15119

Thanks, I'll check those out.

>>15117

>>15132

Thanks, It is good to be home.

>>15139

Lol. You wouldn't go to reddit for asatru would you? Why would you go to reddit for Christianity? Friends don't let friends reddit.

>>15126

This made me Lol!

>Shadow_the_Hedgehog_Ow_The_Edge.jpg

Ignore the cuck, did anyone at least back up the mega? That's what's important.

Actually what the fuck am I doing, I have some other stuff here. I return from my slumber from this board bringing wisdom.

https://mega.nz/#F!HR5WnTyD!Fu0v3uJF2vfXRNqzeXxUZQ

further reading, good books, beginners material, etc are all here.

https://mega.nz/#F!tj4QjTba!oD27lPXLqfg0Jk6Xw7_kZw!FzBg1bpC

memes, redpill infographics, etc are contained in this mega

https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ

all sorts of occult stuff - caution - not only our type of paganism

https://mega.nz/#F!dlZlDbqL!TXG5bGvWufONkrQAL7b7jA

/his/ mega, lots of stuff on overall religions and cultures of peoples. Will help to see how religion affects peoples

Actually, hiatus would probably be a better term in hindsight.

>>14977

Oh shit we already got one back up.

Well, consider these megas to be supplements.

>>15143

>Wars, genocides, Hatfields and Mcoys will always be with us. Indeed, the Old Testament in particular is full of savagery. A savagry that paves the way to greater mercy in the New Covenant.

>

>As time goes on, such violence is increasingly viewed as aberrant and something to overcome. The Heathen worldview, on the other hand, actively enabled and encouraged it.

That's all fine, but it's wrong on two accounts.

1. That is not the Christian worldview, that's a progressive humanist conception of history.

2. The Christian worldview is actually highly similar to the Germanic worldview to which it is related.

Which is: "We inhabit a universe that is declining and becoming more and more perverse, until the forces of chaos/evil overtake this existence and a new world is born"

You are not a Christian, but a progressive humanist.

>>15143

>That's literally the mentality that prevailed: "Waaaaah! His daddy said mean things to my uncle, but his father is unavailable to be killed, so I'm going to kill him, because since he is an upstanding respectable member of the community (i.e. "better man") his death makes things even!"

Why the Hell would I even take that quote or the author in question serious?

>>15143

>What? A worldview that encourages out of control ego having *gasp* conflicts of ego? Wholda thunk?

But there is no concept of ego within the Germanic faith, that's an aspect of Christian teachings. There is the concept of an all encompasing destiny, which includes all human beings.

In fact, Christianity is far more divided then almost any religious community, with thousands of cults and communities.

I mean, take yourself as an example, you say you are against ego, war, petty bickering, infighting etc..

Yet, what is it you are doing here?

Exactly.

So say you are against war and fighting for material things, yet your attitude clearly shows this is just a smokescreen.

It's just a game you atheists play, you pretend you are against war and bickering, while at the same time sharpening your swords and preparing to strike.

It's all just a game you play.

>>15143

>>15143

>>15143

Except the family is one. To kill a member of the family is to damage the family itself. I'm starting to think the "Christianity is original leftism" is true. Individualism is cancer.

>>15148

>That's all fine…

I already said wars and genocides will always be. You are twisting my words into the progressive humanist you want me to be. The New Covenant discourages it, and encourages us to resist this impulse. The Heathen worldview encourages it as evidenced by the quote I cited. Speaking of which….

>Why the Hell would I even take that quote or the author in question serious?

The Culture of the Teutons was written by an actual scholar of the Germanic worldview. Read it sometime. You are willfully dodging the issue.

>But there is no concept of ego within the Germanic faith…

LOL! Because there's absolutely no drive in Heathenry whatsoever to be buried with a lot of toys, and have a runestone carved to one's memory by achieving as much glory and fame in this life as possible…. oh, wait….

>In fact, Christianity is far more divided then almost any religious community

Yet there is still much more of a spirit of ecumenism and drive for unity, and larger and more prosperous organizations than there will ever be in Heathenry. If I had a dollar for every micro tribe that have come and gone or split apart in Heathenry, I'd be a millionaire. Can you seriously name any other right wing Heathen organization other than the Asatru Folk Assembly that has it's act remotely together?

>Yet, what is it you are doing here?

Yes, trying to win you over to Christ is the promotion of petty infighti… wait, I'm not even a part of Heathenry anymore…. so how is this infighting? Isn't this inter-tribal?

>It's just a game you atheists play..

By trying to win you over to Christ, I'm an Atheist….. ooooooooooooookay.

>>15149

Ironically, it is precisely this mentality that lead to blood feuds, which often wiped out entire family lines due to retributive violence.

>>15149

Opposing Views Thread:

>>14534

>>15150

>I already said wars and genocides will always be. You are twisting my words into the progressive humanist you want me to be. The New Covenant discourages it, and encourages us to resist this impulse. The Heathen worldview encourages it as evidenced by the quote I cited. Speaking of which….

It will always be, but we can resists it's impulse?

If it will always be, then it's the law of the land, to resist it is to fall to that law, which would be an act of defeat.

>>15150

>The Culture of the Teutons was written by an actual scholar of the Germanic worldview. Read it sometime. You are willfully dodging the issue.

Alright, now WHY would I accept his particulair interpretation. Let me remind you that academic scholars are attacking your Christian religion right now.

>>15150

>LOL! Because there's absolutely no drive in Heathenry whatsoever to be buried with a lot of toys, and have a runestone carved to one's memory by achieving as much glory and fame in this life as possible…. oh, wait….

Excuse me, that's a natural human impulse and certainly is not covered by the concept of ego.

You basically admit that in your mind Christianity is ego driven, since most Christians enjoy their toys and set up gravestone, again proving you aren't really a Christian, but some misanthrope.

>>15150

>Yet there is still much more of a spirit of ecumenism and drive for unity, and larger and more prosperous organizations than there will ever be in Heathenry. If I had a dollar for every micro tribe that have come and gone or split apart in Heathenry, I'd be a millionaire. Can you seriously name any other right wing Heathen organization other than the Asatru Folk Assembly that has it's act remotely together?

There are no genuine cults and religions in germanic heathenry, because we are not Christians, it's supposed to be loose and with unclear bounderies, because we are not sectarian dogmaticsts.

I know this is difficult to understand, but we are a culture and a faith and not a religion, with dogmatic rules.

>>15150

>Yes, trying to win you over to Christ is the promotion of petty infighti… wait, I'm not even a part of Heathenry anymore…. so how is this infighting? Isn't this inter-tribal?

Ah, I see, so you are allowed to bicker and fight as long as they are not fellow Christians, kinda like heathens bicker and fight with people of different tribes.

But you are totally different and totally not a hypocrite, who is just moralizing to appear better then other people.

>>15150

>By trying to win you over to Christ, I'm an Atheist….. ooooooooooooookay.

Jesus was just a man, so yes, trying to win me over to the teachings of a mortal man would be atheism.

>>15150

>Ironically, it is precisely this mentality that lead to blood feuds, which often wiped out entire family lines due to retributive violence.

Right, because exterminating the populations of entire countries, because they followed the wrong kind of Christianity is somehow not terrible.

Atleast the tribes primarily kept it to small feuds, you Christians almost invented mass-genocides.

But he, atleast your not fighting for your property, but for meaningless dogma's most people don't fully understand.

>>15152

>If it will always be, then it's the law of the land,

In other words "Oh well."

>Alright, now WHY would I accept his particulair interpretation.

Because it's backed up by the behavior and mores of Heathens as recorded in the Sagas and history.

>Excuse me, that's a natural human impulse and certainly is not covered by the concept of ego.

Yes it is natural. Which is why people do it to this day. Does not excuse not striving against and trying to rise above it.

>it's supposed to be loose and with unclear bounderies,

I understand this perfectly. It's why modern Heathenry is such a chaotic mess, and why it ultimately fell to a much more unified and organized Christianity in the first place.

>Ah, I see, so you are allowed to bicker and fight

At worst, maybe I've been a bit sarcastic at times, but for the most part, I've been trying to be civil in this debate. Exhortations to eat cyanide pills have not been coming from me.

>Jesus was just a man, so yes, trying to win me over to the teachings of a mortal man would be atheism.

That is some mental gymnastics you've got going on there.

>Right, because exterminating the populations of entire countries, because they followed the wrong kind of Christianity is somehow not terrible.

You got me with a tough one there. Indeed it was terrible. Of course the key word here is "was." I don't see too many Christians nowadays doing this sort of thing. I'm not sure if the blood feud thing would've continued or not if Heathenry progressed uninterrupted. Plus, considering the Cathars were pushing Gnosticism, a Satanic inversion of Christianity, it might fit under the category of a regrettably just war.

>>15153

>In other words "Oh well."

Your words not mine.

>Because it's backed up by the behavior and mores of Heathens as recorded in the Sagas and history.

So not actually religious literature, but seculiar literature like sagas and histories.

By that logic I could take the common fact that Christians are childmolesters, to interpret Christianity to be about molesting children, he your logic not mine.

Also, you're still not actually awnsering my question why I should accept that academic.

>Yes it is natural. Which is why people do it to this day. Does not excuse not striving against and trying to rise above it.

Again, that's very nice, but you are basically admitting that you are not attacking paganism, but humanity, so what is your problem with paganism again? That it's human?

Well…. I think you will find all human things are human…

>I understand this perfectly. It's why modern Heathenry is such a chaotic mess, and why it ultimately fell to a much more unified and organized Christianity in the first place.

Exactly, we offer freedom, you totalitarianism, until of course the poison of christianity goes to deep and you have an entire society splitting again and again into dogmatic cults, instaid of looking past minor differences.

>At worst, maybe I've been a bit sarcastic at times, but for the most part, I've been trying to be civil in this debate. Exhortations to eat cyanide pills have not been coming from me.

Yes, that's right, moral precepts only apply to other people, not to you.

If you are truly against fighting and bickering, you wouldn't be a Christian trying to spread the faith, but a lonely monk.

>That is some mental gymnastics you've got going on there.

Right and you are going to explain why it's mental gymnastics, or are you saying your conception of God isn't purely ideological, with no grounding in reality.

Essentially making you an atheist.

>>15153

>You got me with a tough one there. Indeed it was terrible. Of course the key word here is "was." I don't see too many Christians nowadays doing this sort of thing.

Ireland, Ukraine, Congo, Balkans, several civil wars in South-America, the American wars in the Middle East, all of them strongly christian influences.

> I'm not sure if the blood feud thing would've continued or not if Heathenry progressed uninterrupted.

I doubt it, the natural result of urbanisation.

>>15110

Fair man, not going to insist that the quality or nature of discussion is what you're after - in truth, I've probably talked more there about archaeo-genetics and lifting than I have about Paganism itself - but your sense of its dedness is weird, it's seen consistently good traffic as far as I've seen. There are daily lulls in activity but equally, daily flowing conversations. At any rate, while I think giving the place another look and trying to get some more discussion of Paganism beyond putting forward pet theories would be worthwhile, I'm glad to see you're around and have remained sane. You say that Pagan discord posted in another thread here is good? You post there much?

>>15125

>True weakness is giving into love of the world

I might agree, which is why Paganism is best understood from a Radical Traditionalist perspective. The true Aryan mindset is neither a love of the world, nor a rejection of it. It must be accepted, and it must be understood that here in this world we can act in ways accordance with what is above us, or in ways in accordance with what is below us. There are no profane realms, there is only a profane point of view.

>>>/zundel/561

This thread is a shining example of how the ill in mind should be prevented from reproducing.

Notice that none of the Christcucks here talked about abortion and how Christcucks like them oppose it and other versions of population control even when done on Niggers.

Here you go, the book Elves, Wights and Trolls. Very informative.

https://dbr.ee/dfbI

where do i start with heidegger?

>>15901

Holy fuck, you're amazing. Thank you so much

>>16115

Introduction to Metaphysics perhaps? Idk. I've been meaning to get into his work for a while now, I seem to remember that book being recommended as a starting point but also that it might be a good idea to read some philosophers that came before him too. I forget which ones.

>>16129

>black notebooks

how do i read those in english? any pdfs around?

also should i read any of his more standard works (relevant to paganism of the JQ)? where do i start with those?

thanks in advance

>>16147

paganism or*

Does anyone have the Mabinogi? Specifically the first and fourth branch.

~Thank you

>>16222

Here you go fam)))

http://mabinogi.nexon.net/micro-site/chainslash/elite

Nice trips

>>16223

Not the maginobi I was expecting but thanks

kek

BO the Zundel link shud prolly be removed seeing as the board was shut down no

new website with free (pagan/asatru/heathen) e-books here:

http://hravan.com/

worth checking out

>>18494

Jeez that one's nu alright, joogle hasn't even crawled it yet heh

>>19483

Some books are nearly impossible to find as ebooks. I just ordered a new copy of Rudiments of Runelore from Amazon for $10 with some other books. Thriftbooks has a great selection of used books for cheaper and you can sometimes find rare books on there too.

Any chance of someone having a copy of Thorsson's Source Book of Seid handy? I can find a scan online, but the actual PDF download is broken.

>>19540

Are you referring to Scribd? Scribd has it but I don't have a paid account to download it.