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The 'anything goes' politics general for discussing and bitching about real world politics and their influences on Star Wars.
Mostly for off-topic banter to avoid derailing threads if need be.
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No.21978
>>21972
Technically Patrick Little runs as Republican. Don't think that means I "support the GOP," though
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No.21979
>>21960
Faggots actively want to corrupt and destroy you, you passive fucking moron. They must be actively prosecuted.
>>21961
>Wrong, and shows you didn't read any of the previous posts.
Because it's all just your statements which are divorced from anything. It's your head canon of libertarianism which hasn't been tried yet. You basically believe "the Market" is an anthropomorphized being that agrees with you and will punish homosexuals for you.
History shows that libertarian faggots like you two supported sodomistes and now we live in a putrid fuckhole. Get fucked you miserable inactive pricks.
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No.21980
>>21979
>Because it's all just your statements which are divorced from anything
Which you have failed to refute or even address.
>It's your head canon of libertarianism which hasn't been tried yet.
Not an argument and no support provided.
>You basically believe "the Market" is an anthropomorphized being that agrees with you and will punish homosexuals for you.
Nice projection, the only people who anthropomorphize the market are socialists who fail to understand how it works, and assume anytime the market doesn't act the way they want they assume they are being "kiked" or "exploited" and blame their situation on an external force. The market doesn't "punish" anyone, there are strategies that work and strategies that do not. Degeneracy is not a strategy that works, as I've shown multiple times. If you think you can prove that the incentives do not exist as I have presented them, I invite you to try and do so rather than make baseless assertions.
>History shows that libertarian faggots like you supported sodomistes [sic]
Like who? Name names or git out. Bastiat didn't. Menger didn't. Mises didn't. Rothbard didn't. Hoppe didn't. And I sure as hell don't, so even if you did have ground to stand on here I don't see how bringing in outside people furthers your point.
>passive fucking moron
>Get fucked you miserable inactive pricks.
Please read the following passages and tell me which parts are "passive":
>Democracy Hoppe describes a fully libertarian society[non-primary source needed] of "covenant communities" made up of residents who have signed an agreement defining the nature of that community. Hoppe writes "There would be little or no ‘tolerance’ and ‘openmindedness’ so dear to left-libertarians. Instead, one would be on the right path toward restoring the freedom of association and exclusion implied in the institution of private property". Hoppe writes that towns and villages could have warning signs saying "no beggars, bums, or homeless, but also no homosexuals, drug users, Jews, Moslems, Germans, or Zulus".
>In a covenant concluded among proprietor and community tenants for the purpose of protecting their private property, no such thing as a right to free (unlimited) speech exists, not even to unlimited speech on one's own tenant-property. One may say innumerable things and promote almost any idea under the sun, but naturally no one is permitted to advocate ideas contrary to the very purpose of the covenant of preserving and protecting private property, such as democracy and communism. There can be no tolerance toward democrats and communists in a libertarian social order. They will have to be physically separated and expelled from society. Likewise, in a covenant founded for the purpose of protecting family and kin, there can be no tolerance toward those habitually promoting lifestyles incompatible with this goal. They – the advocates of alternative, non-family and kin-centered lifestyles such as, for instance, individual hedonism, parasitism, nature-environment worship, homosexuality, or communism – will have to be physically removed from society, too, if one is to maintain a libertarian order.
These are quotes from Hans-Hermann Hoppe, the most prolific and influential libertarian scholar alive today.
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No.21982
Well I hope you're all having fun. This might make a nice politics general if you all want that.
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No.21986
>>21956
>Jewish voice
Those were Swedish "aryans", and not just aryans, but natural aristocrats :^)
When I first saw it, I thought they were mentally retarded. Turns out they were just mentally ill :^)
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No.21987
>>21982
>fun
I haven't had "fun" on this shithole website in years.
Better than having politics spewed all over the fucking board, so yes please, unless the politics are relevant to the thread (i.e. in-universe politics and e/lit/ist discussion in regards to whatever the discussion might be).
IRL political shitflinging should go here. Just find what works and doesn't work on other boards and base your decisions off of that. Careful not to turn the board into general central.
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No.21988
>>21949
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>>21947
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No.21989
>>21982
>>21987
You should also keep it mostly unregulated, so idiots can vent their political frustrations instead of elsewhere on the board.
:^)
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No.21990
>>21947
When did I say fascism was centrist, you mong?
Do you even know where the left-right dichotomy came from, you fucking subhuman?
>image
And nice strawman. Next time, swallow and ice cube before posting, you fucking hot head. Not even going to bother with the rest of your bullshit.
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No.21991
>>21947
Hey, aren't you the Tarkin guy?
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No.21992
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No.21993
>>21990
>When did I say fascism was centrist, you mong?
I didn't claim you said that, learn2readingcomprehension.
>>21991
Yes. Not really sure what to do with it now as I can't write action scenes for shit, and the writeup ends as a battle over Mustafar begins.
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No.21996
>>21993
No, you're right. But then why did you repeat what I said in regard to fascism?
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No.21997
>>21996
I wasn't trying to repeat anything, but take an alternate perspective. You spoke about fash being a mix of new and old ideologies, but I don't think that's quite accurate–even if it's true, the goal wasn't to take the "best" parts of new and old, but to take the "best" parts of left and right. I also don't think it's really correct to say that nationalism was a part of a "new" ideology for the 20th century–in-group preference has been around as long as biology has been around, after all. The 'new' part of nationalism is the fact that for the first time a group had to explicitly say they favored their own people first, whereas before that was just assumed to be true and didn't have to be affirmed.
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No.22029
Daily reminder the Empire was flawed but the overall good for the galaxy and the Rebellion was a bunch of ass-licking mongoloids and cowards.
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No.22047
>>21792
How could libertarians ruin everything when they've never had any real political power? You saw what the establishment did to Ron Paul, and he's largely a fairly mild libertarian compared to some, albeit devoted to what he believes.
>>21961
The sentiment expressed by Hans Hermann-Hoppe in this set of quotations is something I should have realized much sooner. Americans are taught to believe that democracy and freedom are inseparable, but in reality they have nothing to do with each other. People can democratically vote to revoke any and all freedoms. If you support a certain thing being allowed but the majority doesn't, you're shit out of luck in a democratic system. And given how retarded most of the population is anyway, why should anyone ever trust democracy to do the right thing? The people are very often not merely wrong and retarded, but actively refuse to see the truth, listen to it or even allow it to be spoken because they've worked themselves up into a frenzy of hysteria. Why should that sort of person have any influence in politics?
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No.22049
>>22047
>Why should that sort of person have any influence in politics?
The answer of course is that sort of panicky, hysterical person will gladly vote to give more power to the (((group))) which granted them the franchise.
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No.22107
>>21993
tell me about this tarkin project you have going on.
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No.22108
>>22107
Not really a "project," just a shitty fanfic I wrote awhile back about what would happen if Anakin chose to kill Sheev in his watershed moment instead of Windu.
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No.22119
>>22108
okay, i've barely made it through the first paragraph and the errors alone have given me ptsd.
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No.22120
>>22119
Stopped for a reason fam, I'm no writer. You want to turn that shit into something actionable be my guest.
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No.22170
>>22108
>while back
How long ago, what thread?
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No.22175
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No.22331
Hot take: I think the Empire was bad. BUT, BUT, here me out here.
It shouldn't have been. As I've grown older I resent more and more that the group that has every right to be and for all intents and purposes IS the good side, was made bad to serve as a shitty generic lazy antagonist. And I fucking hate the soyboys on force.net and halfchan who act like faggots any time you talk good about the Empire.
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No.22332
>>22331
>And I fucking hate the soyboys on force.net and halfchan who act like faggots any time you talk good about the Empire.
Its weird. 7 years ago you could've made all sorts of pro-Empire comments or even RP as a stormtrooper without anyone batting an eye, yet now you'll be scorned and called a bigot for liking the empire. Only place on halfchan that isn't completely fucked with this kind of thinking is /toy/. Even 4/tg/ is just a mess of faggots now who see love for the Empire as "evil backwards fascism" yet have no problem with lovers of 40k's Imperium (most of the time anyway).
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No.22333
>>22332
>40k's Imperium
sadly it's gotten to the point where newfags insist the Imperium is evil and the worst faction and the enjoyment of it is only ironic. spot on though, the Empire was definitely the first to fall. ever since the buyout half/sw/ has gotten more and more of the soyposter types. heaven help you if you dare badmouth their precious webuls.
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No.22334
>>22331
broke: Empire was ebil space fascists
woke: Empire did nothing wrong
bespoke: Empire had problems under Sheev but the Remnant/Fel Dynasty did nothing wrong.
>>22332
Even the Imperium isn't completely safe, tumblr-type spergs once tried to fill 1d4chan with shit like this: https://1d4chan.org/index.php?title=How_Imperial_Life_Is_Worse_Than_You_Can_Imagine&redirect=no
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No.22349
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No.22350
>>22333
Source please.
>>22331
>>>/reddit/
>>22334
>broke: Empire was ebil space fascists
>woke: Empire did nothing wrong
>bespoke: Empire had problems under Sheev but the Remnant/Fel Dynasty did nothing wrong.
We have something called "imageboard culture", which is different from your normalfag """culture""". Also, don't talk like a nigger.
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No.22352
>>22350
weeaboos have no culture
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No.22353
>>22350
i don't see what you meant by this post
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No.22360
>>22334
>Even the Imperium isn't completely safe, tumblr-type spergs once tried to fill 1d4chan with shit like this
And people allow that shit on the article?
>>22350
What point are you even trying to make?
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No.22369
I think Republic and Empire are two different societies and ways of life, each with their own strengths and weaknesses.
the Republic offers checks & balances of power and political representation for all factions in society (which is particularly good for non-human sentients). However, it suffers from corruption, gridlock, and bureaucracy.
the Empire is efficient and effective at marshaling resources, projecting military force, and maintaining law & order. On the other hand, its centralized, authoritarian, hierarchical structure make it vulnerable to abuse of power, especially when you have Sith leadership at the top. It's also human-centric, giving most non-human sentients a subordinate status, which may be good or bad depending on your perspective.
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No.22370
>>22352
>"posting anime girls means you're a weeaboo!"
You don't have to be full-weeb, but you must acknowledge the past, which has shaped imageboard culture as you know it now. You don't want to be a normalfaggot like EmpLemon, do you?
>>22360
>>22353
I asked >>22333 for a source for his claim.
I told >>22331 to fuck off back to reddit.
Unsure of whether >>22334 was done out of irony/sarcasm or if he was doing it unironically, I made the "ironic shitposting is still shitposting" argument with the MS Paint comic, and, annoyed, scolded him.
Your inability to see this is telling me you two are not very bright, that coupled with >>22353 lack of English skills.
Or, of course, perhaps English is not his first language.
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No.22374
>>22370
Also,
>you must choose a flag to post on this board
Why?
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No.22375
I haven't posted in a month or two, but I have one question.
What happened to get a politics cyclical made on /sw/? Did /leftypol/ or cuckchan raid the board while I was gone?
the galactic senate thread was pretty fun though
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No.22376
>>22375
Just political autism, but you should try reading the thread before you post.
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No.22378
>>22375
*Also this >>20557
Many threads about Rian and politics were made, which was cluttering up the board.
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No.22380
>>22370
>first image
Oh wow, that makes a lot of sense. Although, supposedly, /g/ was originally Guro, but then that's still Romaji. Gijutsu for technology would make sense.
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No.22381
>>22380
*sage for off-topic, of course.
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No.22382
>>22378
I recall the Rian Johnson threads, but the politics usually died down after a certain amount of posts. And it was usually on-topic to the subject of the thread from what I recall. though after reading the earlier posts in this specific thread, the argument about libertarianism being pozzed or not really has nothing to do with /sw/
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No.22383
I can see the flag display in this thread and the index, but it's nowhere to be found in any other threads. What gives?
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No.22395
>>22383
Have you cleared your cache/cookies?
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No.22396
>>22370
>for a source for his claim.
I have some sources, however most of them are from TheForce.Net, Kotaku and the Mary Sue and I only saved the Mary Sue and TFN ones.
Also why does he need to fuck off back to reddit? He seems to be shitting on the right people.
>>22374
>Why?
Why not? Flags are fun and hardly anyone's been using them.
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No.22418
>>22383
That happens with old threads sometimes, try clearing your data and postan again.
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No.22419
Cuck Wendig on the Kavanaugh appointment (I think; he's rather incoherent).
Naturally, the shitlib mind resorts to talking about eating babies and prolapsed anuses.
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No.22420
>>22370
>You don't want to be a normalfaggot like EmpLemon, do you?
What did that nigger say that that prompted you post that in a spoiler? I can't remember him saying anything extremely retarded recently.
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No.22429
>>22419
I cannot express how much I hate this faggot's face.
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No.22461
>>22370
Who the flying fuck is EmpLemon, schmuck?
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No.22462
>>22420
Apparently he thinks millenials dindu nuthin and that giving names to generations is just done by old farts for marketing purposes. All this while millennials are making the same mistakes as the boomers they hate so much. He's not entirely wrong, but he's a bit hypocritical for blaming it on the older generation while saying generations are bullshit. not that it matters given how many channels are run by self-reassuring hypocrites
>>22461
Some MonCal-fag that makes meme videos on youtube.
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