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What's up with all these newer mecha anime using CGI? CGI looks out of place most of the time and usually has bad frame rates.
feels bad man
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No.9051
>>5586
Yeah, but it doesn't seem that they're passing on the savings.
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No.9141
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No.9145
>>4655
>>9031
I thought this scene (looks better in motion) in Young Justice (which lasts just a few seconds), had an interesting idea with making the BACKGROUND CGI while the characters were 2D. Made them really pop out from the background.
Might get super weird if used long term though
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No.9146
>>9038
Thankfully, the new series doesn't look like it will be using CGI.
They only showed us a minute or two of footage though, so I might be completely wrong.
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No.9150
>>9146
Might be like G-Reco where one or two ships were CG but the vast majority wasn't.
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No.9158
>>9150
I get your comparison but it's generally not a good sign when anything is getting compared to to G-Reco.
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No.10818
>>9035
>Gunbuster
>not amazing
Also yes, it's a money thing, and it's hardly confined to just robot shows.
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No.10820
>>9035
>Gunbuster
>Not amazing
He was talking about the ship anyway you fag.
I swear, if something isn't a semi-obscure 80's OVA or Gundam it will get panned on /m/ nowadays.
Hell, I've seen hate for Getter G and Go back on halfchan. How is that even possible?
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No.10833
>>4632
>I don't mind if it's done well.
But isn't the amount of money needed to do CGI well roughly the same as doing it in 2D?
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No.10834
>>10820
gunbuster is good, I just hate the faggots who think the last ep isn't anything but "we blew the budget so last ep is B&W"
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No.10836
>>10834
Yeah, that kinda felt like a cop-out.
Still one of my favorite anime though.
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No.10842
>>4629
I would watch Code Geass, but the artsyle makes me want to puke.
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No.10850
>>10842
Same. I hate the character design of that series.
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No.10854
CG completely kills any series for me. Since it seems like it's in every new Mecha anime I've resigned myself to just watching older series in my backlog instead. Going to be watching Shin Getter Robo vs. Neo Getter Robo for the first time tonight.
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No.10881
>>10854
>Going to be watching Shin Getter Robo vs. Neo Getter Robo for the first time tonight.
You chose correctly
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No.11522
>>10834
It costs more to animate in black and white than color though anon, so it's impossible that the reason could be budgetary. A simple Google would tell you that.
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No.11530
Well done CG is as good as well done 2D. 2D is better for looking at like beautiful paintings while 3D is better for complex engagements. Thing is, CG is still new so there's not a lot of examples to point at to show it's good. A lot of time they overuse it and looks like garbage like Knights of Sidonia.
In my opinion, as we get more great mecha like Fafner and Akito done in CG, CG haters will go away. It will just be seen as another style instead of a threat.
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No.11534
>>11530
Both can potentially look good but the latter is a better showcase of the artist's mastery, same reason why people are usually more impressed by paintings than pretty CGI renders. The CGI artist merely works with a prexisting toolkit and renderer to achieve his vision, whereas the traditional artist begins with only a blank canvas and draws upon his entire skillset and collective knowledge to give us an idea of how he sees the world.
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No.11537
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No.12095
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No.12258
>>11537
I once stated that opinion on half chan and got banned for that.
I'm glad someone else thinks the CG there is horse shit.
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No.12259
>>9035
Gunbuster is amazing in terms of animation, in terms of plot though it is garbage
>women in combat roles
>being just as competent as men
AYYY LMAO, I was seriously waiting for a V Gundam Strike team moment.
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No.12308
>thread from 2014
>2016 is less than month away
Top ayyy.
That Karas anime, while barely mecha, had some really cool CGI that looked nice and fitting.
Since this site doesn't support 20 mb gif have a random meme.
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No.12591
Do Japs like CGI or something?
I know it's cheaper than normal animation, but they have to know that it looks far worse.
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No.12708
>>12591
It's probably a decline of standards.
Also you're forgetting that it's not just cost, the amount of effort it takes to hand-draw each frame is insanely high compared to just using CGI.
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No.12713
Honestly, a full cg show like ms igloo wouldn't bother me. I really enjoyed it a lot. It wasn't as pretty as a lot of the hand drawn stuff, but the fights were fluid and fun to watch for all 3 ovas. Especially the guntank episode in ms igloo 2
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No.12780
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No.12782
>>12780
Moeshit was a mistake.
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No.12783
>>12708
Japanese animators get paid horribly.
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No.12850
It was kind of weird to see nicely drawn still images of ships in Space Battleship Yamato 2199 then considerably less detailed CG for any scene with motion
>>4696
I've seen CGI done in a way that looks tolerable, none of them involved people.
>>9038
>Origin CGI looks bad
>Aldnoah is fine
What
>>11530
I'd argue 2D shows better destruction
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No.13657
Because the few shows that do traditional animation tend to bomb now (see Captain Earth).
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No.16525
>>13657
Are you seriously implying traditional animation turns people off?
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No.16620
>>12850
>2D shows better destruction
This. 3D destruction is a lot more expensive than 2D destruction. You need a shit ton of budget to make 3D destruction look as convincing and defeats the point of using 3D to save money. Because of this, most of the time, the 3D mech disappears into an explosion cloud when it's defeated.
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No.18026
>>13657
Captain Earth bombed for reasons other than the animation.
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No.19327
>>11534
I've seen this webm around and still don't know what it's from.
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No.19353
>>13657
>Captain Earth
>Traditional animation
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No.19355
>>19327
I think it's Garasaki, but I don't know for sure.
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No.19373
>2018
>full metal panic iv has cgi mechs when animated
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No.19560
>>19327
>>19355
no its "patlabor 2 the movie" you fucin plebs
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No.19572
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No.19573
>>19560
I always wonder how they fucked up the animation so bad at times.
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No.19937
>>19573
It's fucking 1979 dude.
Watch some contemporary mecha TV shows.
Gundam blows them out of the water with its consistency, framerates and overall quality, even if it doesn't hold up to 80s TV standards.
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No.19948
>>12308
>thread is from 2014
>2019 is two and a half months away
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No.19949
>>12308
>>19948
I think that's my post but I'm not sure anymore.
Karas didn't age very well.
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No.19951
>>19948
Gundam narrative is about to come out and it doesn't seem to use cgi from the trailers i have seen so far. It might just be that the CGI got so good that it is indistinguishable from 2d now. Either way it is going to be a comfy 2019 lads.
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No.20247
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No.20250
>>20247
>2D mecha thread
>posts a video of power armor from a video game
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No.20686
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No.20687
>>20686
>2d mecha thread
>posts 3D CG model
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No.20879
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