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Direct all general discussion about the board, questions, suggestions etc to this thread, if not the IRC
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No.10858
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No.10859
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No.10865
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No.10867
>>10857
Is it possible to ban him?
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No.11002
I was new to this place back before cloudfare fucked us. So, I guess I'm still considered new. In any case, I wonder what you have against western furry. Do you just not like the art or do you all hate the western furry fandom. I can tell that the whole kemono thing is very separate from western furries. I only rarely saw kemono style stuff posted on FA and e621. And the kemono style is my favorite.
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No.11004
>>11002
The board administration itself has nothing against Western art, however it doesn't belong here as there are more appropriate avenues for it.
As for why individuals here might not like it though, that's for them to say but I will say that I find after seeing this discussion go on for years the answer is that nearly everyone has a different response. Some don't mind it at all, some hate the community of western art but don't mind the art, some hate it all. As to why, it's going to vary heavily on the individual's preferences and experience, and over the years I've seen every reason as to some hate western art but like kemono, and it's very clear kemono fans are not one person and do not agree with each other over why they find kemono superior.
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No.11005
Also, i heard about the problems about the coronavirus that started Wuhan, China and it spread all over the world, and many Chinese (including Japanese and Korean) have suffered racial abuse overspreading this kind of virus.
I am a white person and i have no intention to attack some of these Asian users here and on Twitter, but i am so shamed many East asian people are treated as virus infectors. Now all Kemono users from Japan, China, Taiwan, South Korea, and any asian countries are suffering stigmatization due to this.
Also read here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia_and_racism_related_to_the_2019%E2%80%9320_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak
This kinda ruins all about Asia.
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No.11007
>>11005
>Looking up the Wuhan virus outbreak.
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No.11008
>>11005
I don't believe you're white at all. "How do you do fellow white people"
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No.11009
>>11008
I support asian people who whom i like some of his work, but i don't intend to discriminate them.
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No.11010
>>11005
>Xenophobia_and_racism_related_to_the_2019%E2%80%9320_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak
Seems like they're pulling that out of their ass.
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No.11011
Man, seeing on how this board is becoming dead, it's kinda going to be difficult on how we can keep with kemono fandom due to this, but also restriction and accessibility that prevents us from getting into the kemono fandom due to this.
If only Japanese companies made some more commercially produced kemono content more accessible besides doujinshi and art, then the fandom should have rejoiced.
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No.11022
Hello just a little ask, does anybody happen to have a Twitter account, here is mine though:
https://twitter.com/XXKomaruXX
And it would be great if you guys love to follow me though and share the hobbies.
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No.11024
Hey there, a while this board is somehow nearing its dead, i am migrating off into this site:
https://8kun.top/fur/index.html
I look foward to wait until someone revive this board.
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No.11025
>>11024
I wish I knew about /kemono/ before today.
But yes. Both
>>>/fur/
>>>/furry/
exist.
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No.11026
>>11025
Yeah, it's kinda sad on how this board is becoming dead, thanks to the cloudflare for shutting down before it got back.
Even today, no one is coming back, even newcomers don't get admit into this fandom either.
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No.11027
>>11025
both are shitholes run by control freaks, its better to have a fresh start in julays webring or just stick around here where it's more relaxed
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No.11028
>>11027
Is there an alternative board dedicated to kemono-related though?
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No.11029
>>11026
>>11028
>>11024
>>11025
Kemono never died. It's just that most kemono fans moved onto Twitter, Exhentai, and Discord because of the stigma of imageboards. I know multiple former /kemono/ users that used to be on here (one of the users here was a transwoman who translated the doujins here), who now exclusively avoid this site because it attracted edgy spree shooters and abrasive users that lack self-control.
It makes sense why they want to stay on Twitter.
1.They don't want to be investigated by federal agents as a potential terrorist. (Your government won't investigate you since you're Korean living in South Korea.)
2. They get to avoid the bad people that complain about "muh free speech" when they're prevented from being an asshole to others.
3. They're very successful and popular on those platforms like Twitter.
The best part is that the edgy people stay secluded in dead bunkers, wondering why no one is willing to talk with them after they burned bridges with everyone for no reason.
Kemono never died, it went mainstream with media like Beastars and BNA. And it will only get better over time.
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No.11030
>>11028
>>11024
>>11026
The board is slow, it will remain slow for a while at least, as the loss of users after the re-launch of the site and the mismanaging of the whole affair by the administration has made it so. However you posting constantly with nobody responding isn't making things any better as your poor self-awareness, poor English skills, and frankly your poor judgement (that you yourself admit to >>10856 ) do not make for good conversation. Nobody cares that some namefag might be leaving "the fandom" (read: this board). Stop blogging about it, stop posting and lurk, or at least stop posting with your name, it's embarassing.
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No.11032
>>11027
>its better to have a fresh start in julays webring
That would unironically help.
One of the biggest problems with 8chan has always been that it's very difficult to advertise slow boards. What are you going to do? Post ads in other boards and get banned? It's not easy to find ways to "naturally" link to or raise awareness of it, especially to people who don't go to other furry-related boards. The board list doesn't show this board, people just have no way of finding it, and already popular boards will continue getting more attention. Historically all pleas to add board discovery features have been ignored, and it doesn't look like improving that kind of thing is anywhere in the admins' minds.
The webring invented a new mechanic where the board list is organized by latest activity and shows when the last post was, so you can promote and "bump" the board simply by posting in it, making it go to the top of the board list and get a blue highlight for an hour. It's genius in it's simplicity and effectiveness and how naturally it suits imageboards.
Of course the downside of using it is that you'll have to split in 2, because nobody seems interested in actually leaving 8kun no matter how shit it is. It would be better if instead of using Julay, kemoner.club joined the webring (and became more active, it's full of spam right now).
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No.11033
>kemoner.club
That site is filled with lots of live-action porn content, and still, no one is coming there neither. :<
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No.11036
>>11033
I've seen that before. The admin seems to delete it and other spam after few days, he's not very active, I guess because the website isn't active.
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No.11037
>>11036
Yes, i know that this site is also apperently dying and the admin is really busy with his life right now, so he dosen't have any time to deal with his website he is revitalizing.
I miss the old days when Kemonochan/Kemononi was huge thing back when i was first launched in 2010 and shut down in 2014, the shutdown for Kemonochan was due to an kemono artist requesting their doujin works to be removed, in which they we're intended to fight against piracy, even some doujins we're derivative of other kemono media such as Pokemon, Onmyou Taisenki, etc. And it's been 10 since when the original Kemonochan was founded and even to this day, the kemono community might not last long, as most of its content they produce by kemono artist (both doujin and commercially) stay exclusively to Japan-only and Alice-books is the only known company that ship products internationally, not all other retailaers such as Amazon Japan, Toranonaka, Suruya, Yahoo Japan, don't ship their products to internationally as much as Alice-books does.
I've got into the Kemono fandom in 2014 and i feel like i have no option on what to do with some restriction that we are facing these days. And many Kemonomi/Kemonochan users have all been scattered, with some users leaving kemono fandom for their real life issues.
Also, the scanlation of English kemono are becoming less frequent these days, many of kemono translation of doujinshi and manga are now almost Chinese and Korean and there are rarely English scanlation in recent years.
It feels like our kemono fandom is less unified, compared to the old days when Kemono was a huge thing in 2000 and early 2010s.
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No.11038
>>11037
There's always one solution. Hang up the towel on the English part of the fandom and learn moon
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No.11039
But still, while there is growing kemono anime like Beastars and Brand New Animal, there is also more growing kemono web manga coming out and i hope some of these kemono web manga will get an anime adoption one day, i hope this is a positive changes in the anime/manga industry as a whole.
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No.11040
>>11032
I don't want to promise anything I can't deliver on, but that is my plan for the next few months is to have a board on the webring and off of 8kun, since the site works quite poorly now, many people have left and don't like how the admins handled things and as you said, it's awkward to advertise or to accrue new users. Several years ago I wanted to do the same thing but the webring didn't exist and 8chan fixed many of its more glaring problems and it didn't seem worth the effort at the time.
Let me know what you think about this if this is a good idea or not, but I think it would, in the long run, be better for the board's health as currently it feels as if we're shackled to a sinking ship.
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No.11041
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No.11042
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No.11043
Speaking of which, i am one of the fewer kemono fan who is not from Asia, i am from Europe, and i feel like the majority of the kemono fans are from Asia, is that right?
I know a lot of asian kemono fans have easier to access the content they can get while me and other western kemono fans have difficult to access it.
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No.11044
>>11040
I would like something that keep the boardlike feels of Kemonochan, and making seperate webboard seem to be a good idea, as chance of this place turning into a political shit hole start increasing ever since the last shutdown, so having a spare board outside 8chan would be a good idea. Although, I wish you have a twitter that I can follow as an emergency hub incase something happen, because I enjoyed your admin style, so I can keep track of your new board. The issue is do we have resource or hardware to maintain the said board as Kemonochan once met those limit, as well as security as we still have a chance of getting spammed, which just happened recently to kemoner.club, which seem o be plagued by random spam bot
That said, what exactly is a webring?
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No.11045
One more thing i heard about Coronavirus is being spread all over the world and i heard many events held in Japan are being cancelled due to this, Kemoket is also likely to cancel the kemono doujin event as well due to Coronavirus outbreak.
I hope WHO can find some vaccine as a way to stop this corona virus from being spread all over the world. :(
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No.11046
>>11044
>resource or hardware
You can rent server space for peanuts if you just want something simple and similar size to this. It should also be possible to enable Cloudflare for free for basic DDOS protection.
If you want to run a small imageboard then the software is probably the hardest part, because all the available imageboard engines seem kind of shitty. Lynxchan appears to be the most popular but I don't think it has any kind of automatic spam detection (for example enabling captcha when there's a big spike in activity), so you'd need to be very active and be able to handle things like that manually.
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No.11047
>>11032
I was a regular on 8chan but I really loathe 8kun, the site is just so bad it's not the users but it's less functionally consistent than even posting on 4chan with google captcha. 8kuns is worse than it ever was and the files load slower than even endchan which I considered the bottom of the barrel. the only thing 8kun does well is text posts.
The webring is so much snappier and satisfying, the admins actually listen to the imageboard community and update the site pretty regularly. Its for bunkers foremost but id rather it was just the norm, this place is obsolete and a huge step back from what 8chan was already.
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No.11052
>>11046
>Lynxchan appears to be the most popular but I don't think it has any kind of automatic spam detection
Yes it does. You set it either to enable captcha for thread creation or all posts based on the number of threads or posts made in the span of one hour.
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No.11075
>>11004
thanks for the reply. I think i'll hang around this board more often.
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No.11091
Hey BO, I think we should really prepare to find a new board or something, or at least find some way to know where we can keep eye on you in case you can create a new board, should this place somehow fall again.
Personally, I wish we can make another chan board that are kemono focused, but I don't have time or resource to do this myself. In any case, I really wish we have some sort of plan so we can keep sticking together, as I really love this community, no matter how slow it is.
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No.11093
>>11091
Things are in motion, hopefully I'll have news after the weekend.
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No.11097
>>11093
May I ask if you plan to make another chan-style image board, or will it be something else?
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No.11099
>>11097
Here is the state of things.
I would like to make another website to host the board, and perhaps put it on the webring, and I'm looking into getting that done. A few things need to be figured out first though.
First off is what board software to use, the only two real requirements beyond basic usability being that it be reasonably secure from attacks and spam, and that it have good database backend, in case for some reason we need to change software in the future, it will be easier to move databases.
And then once that's figured out we need to figure out hosting, specifically we need a host that won't kick us off for any potentially controversial content posted.
As for the structure of the site, at least one part will be an imageboard in more or less the same format as this one, and maybe we'll add onto the site with more functionality in the future, resources permitting.
Unfortunately I'm busy in real life right now so I can't give a reliable timetable on it.
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No.11150
>>11099
Any sort of news?
Life must be pretty busy, eh?
How do you think the new board would look like?
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No.11152
>>11150
Yes, I'm sorry, ashamed and embarassed I haven't been able to get much done during the last month but things have been hectic with the virus going around.
I do have a host, a domain, and I'm having someone with more experience help me with the database and codebase.
My biggest concern is that, while I do have an archive of the board, short of making a bot (which I have no experience with doing) to repost every post, we will have to start anew with a new board. The best I can offer at this very moment is a downloadable archive of the board that works as if you're on the board itself, images and all.
I expect I'll have some sort of working version of the site up sometime soon. As for style, I was thinking of something more themed (for the board but not necessarily the content) and I've been throwing around some ideas with someone.
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No.11153
>>11152
it's all fine, but I did saw that the site "failed" yesterday, and the image almost didn't load, so I would like it if you have a twitter or Reddit, if only for an announcement purpose, should the site dies forever.
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No.11167
Why do posts keep disappearing?
The hell's wrong with this site? Happens on other boards too.
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No.11168
>>11167
Unless you can tell me which posts, or in what thread etc, I'll have to just chalk it up to 8kun's ailing database.
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No.11169
>>11168
Like in >>2870 for example, the last two posts weren't there yesterday. They're back now.
Ever since they were posted they've been off and on a few times.
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No.11171
>>11169
Yeah that's just a database issue when posts disappear intermittently.
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No.11174
>the site was inaccessible today
>the image failed to load for a while
>current 8kun owner suspected to be Qanon
dang it, the site might be dying. I don't mind that we may not get a replacement site any time soon, but I would like as the BO if they can at least get something like twitter or a discord channel, as least as an anchor should 8kun go down again, perhaps permanently, incase they figure what site can we migrate to.
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No.11175
>>11174
I've hesitated answering this because I don't really know how to in a satisfying way, but I'll just be blunt; I don't have any interest in any kind of social media even for practical purposes regarding this board. We have an IRC, but it's been effectively dead since 2014 though I still lurk it and that's about as much as I care to do. Why? I simply hate big social media and hate discord.
Regarding the replacement site, the database is done, but it's been equal parts business and laziness preventing me from finishing it. I'm also hesitant about some theme/design choices but I think I'm just going to go full-steam-ahead and just fix it later if it doesn't work out.
I don't really see myself as any kind of community leader in charge of where we go, the community will naturally find its niche if this one disappears.
I'm sorry if that's not the answer you wanted to hear.
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No.11176
>>11175
well, it doesn't have to be twitter or discord, and you're right that if something happened, a replacement may crop up eventually.
However, I do prefer how peaceful the community here is, and it remain a good place to find a kemono topic without too much limitation, or shitpost, that and you were making a replacement site, which I would like to see it happen, so I had a good reason to keep following you, because I am at least curious to see what will you come up with. So, it not that I need you to have twitter or discord, but I just would like to at least find a way to reliably receive update on that project of your at least.
But if you are not comfortable, then we might just leave it at that for now and hope for the best. Perhaps one of us can make a thread about migration plan.
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