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>>74960

> MKULTRA is very obviously hyped up to be much greater than it actually was. At this point, it's just a buzzword.

A very useful buzzword - I think I've got some good heuristics for identifying at least some charlatans and cutting through a huge amount of the crap.

> It might just go unsaid with the assumption that the people involved are aware. You might be right though about that last part.

It wouldn't have been unsaid in the early 1950's when they had no idea if it was really possible. And the documents leave no doubt - they really did write down that the defensive side was a cover story and their own consultant really did write down that the cover story was blatantly transparent.

As for government wanting that, well, see DOC_0000146067.pdf in that collection, a hilarious handwritten memo that appears to have originated from the US Navy if the attached cover sheet is to be believed.

< Dear DDP. [DDP = Deputy Director of Planning in the CIA; may also have been Chief of Dirty Tricks]

< [1] This is an anonymous memo.

< [2] The US has access to many tens of thousands of "dirty" communist brains.

< [3] We are told that "brain washing" as practiced in the Bloc upon non-communists is not a secret process.

< [4] Why doesn't the US avail itself of some of the unwashed sons of [illegible] and wash a few thousand.

< [5] When clean they might make interesting Radio or movie material.

> future tech may be the biggest threat here because some research is going on for a variety of devices which aim to have your mind and machines interact in some form

n3ur@link might be enough to provide a HUD or control a few extra robot limbs. Multiple implants might have enough reach to "stretch" a human mind across both organic and cybernetic bodies, which would be useful in a Mars colony for operating telepresence robots while safely inside the pressure habitat. It looks like he read too much 40k and now Elon Musk thinks he's going to found the Adeptus Mechanicus.

>>74984

>It looks like he read too much 40k and now Elon Musk thinks he's going to found the Adeptus Mechanicus.

It definitely is a bit fantastical, but with time it probably will get to a point where it becomes very threatening of our privacy. Plus, it's not just Elon wanting it for his own ego, plenty of others would like such a thing. Consumers can utilize these devices for many activities, not to mention ultra-realistic VR (deep dive?) where we'll likely end up having a crisis where people intentionally keep themselves under for as long as possible to escape reality. But I digress, we probably won't be seeing most of that for some decades and it's not exactly very relevant to us right now.

>The difference is that the alien was something from outside, while "Wolfgirl" is part of her host and has always been part of her host. Why should she ever part ways?

What is this outside what is the host and what has always been part of the host?

>But her job ultimately is to be a companion for her host - how is that ever done?

The main problem is that the soul will just get lost again in a different illusion with this approch.

Wolf Girl contains much of what people have been lost or blocked out so that they cannot directly have communion with being anymore.

However finally all Form is to be resolved in the discovery of the Light or it will just become a different salesman of being. (This is unavoidable!)

Instead of planning it like a permanent companion you should structure it like a relationship that has discrete points of import and a definite end.

That way wolfgirl would get a better deal too.

I was wrong about the well thought out detail being a mostly positive factor.

You should stop wasting time trying to construct every minute detail. Everyone has to do that for themselves.

You are trying to create it the wrong way around - the Whole from parts.

Focus first on the manual work of creating a mood and a basic direction for intention and to sink it down.

And the very first thing you need to do is develop methods to energise that mood and intent in the Place between psyche neurons and the body and to stablize that Reaction and methods to transmit these via the hypnosis files.

Then that is used by everybody at His own pleasure to create meaningful particulars with clear Truthful guidance in simple words in a different set of files.

For safety you mainly just need to build in a purification period with the integration of the instruction of the basic excercise set files.

And in the main files that build on these make i abundantly clear that noone is small enought to not make choices of import that he may come to dearly regret when Being close to the Light.

Few people will get this anyway. Some of them will fuck themselves up some will just burn themselves and some will be just fine.

If you attentively and lovingly create clear Truthful instruction coming from intention with a final root in a Good beyond tangibles you will have done everthing you can do about that. Beyond that you can only place your trust in Him.

Also how do you have time busy yourself with politics and glowjogger shenanigans if you want to get anywhere with this? ARTICHOKE just as MKULTRA is just a labyrinth.

>the original interpretation I had had was using "fuck" because you are too confused to find any other word

So not a sticky wall of filth. Spiritus vertiginis? An aroused turba?

At this rate, why don't you just pay a decent voicethot? I'm serious. And if you actually are working on your own TTS, please, at least post some samples of it so people know you aren't bullshitting them.

Monthly check on the wolfgirl thread… and he's ranting about the fbi and cia now. Lol I wish you the best but this is turning into weird yanderedev shit, we're what 2 years in now and further away than when we started. I'd echo anon's sentiments to just source a VA

I am the guy who calls this project "Wolf Turd." I haven't visited this board in a while, but my prediction still rings true. We will never see a Wolf Turd prototype, let alone the finished product!

>>74985

> with time it probably will get to a point where it becomes very threatening of our privacy

As in reading your mind with any meaningful detail? Very unlikely - we still have no idea how thoughts are physically encoded and it's probably different between different people. As in my "apple" is your "orange" and your "apple" is my "papaya" different.

I used to follow a few transhumanist discussion forums - this type of stuff was a big goal and an epic disappointment when these problems were discovered.

That's not to say that people can't learn to operate a machine with their brainwaves - biofeedback is amazing - but you're not going to be getting thoughts that someone doesn't want you to know.

> Consumers can utilize these devices for many activities, not to mention ultra-realistic VR (deep dive?) where we'll likely end up having a crisis where people intentionally keep themselves under for as long as possible to escape reality.

That's possible - sensory and motor areas are one of the few areas of the brain with definite and mappable encoding. Operating a telepresence robot from the safety of a pressure habitat on Mars is about the same as a deep dive VR session, only using the robot and its sensors instead of a simulated environment.

>>74994

> What is this outside what is the host and what has always been part of the host?

At surface meaning, the host is the person listening to the files, the "outside" was an answer to a reference to a manga featuring an alien that turned the main character's arm into a semi-autonomous shape-shifting appendage, and the "always has been part" is the method I plan to use to introduce "Wolfgirl" - she's actually always been part of you but you just didn't know about her before.

At deeper meaning, these are good questions to ponder that may not have simple answers.

> However finally all Form is to be resolved in the discovery of the Light or it will just become a different salesman of being. (This is unavoidable!)

I sense that I am missing the background material needed to understand this. Can you point the way?

> You are trying to create it the wrong way around - the Whole from parts.

All large human endeavors ultimately work from lesser parts to a greater whole. There's no other way to accomplish anything.

> you mainly just need to build in a purification period with the integration of the instruction of the basic excercise set files

The current draft outline has a set of preconditioning files - I can fit this there. I'll have to think about it more.

> busy yourself with politics and glowjogger shenanigans if you want to get anywhere with this?

Politics spreads as an infestation, and the glowjogger shenanigans have shaped the information field in which I do the research for this project. Knowledge of those shenanigans helps me to identify and avoid charlatans and disinformation.

Also, the way I came to find that collection suggests that there is a Purpose in me reading it. I don't take those suggestions lightly.

> So not a sticky wall of filth.

Correct.

> Spiritus vertiginis? An aroused turba?

Please explain.

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Sorry to take so long to answer - 8kun had broken Tor posting and only now seems to have fixed it … at least if you do a bit of a hack to actually post via the hidden service.

>>76376

> For something that has always been there you would not develop parts. You point at the whole till your subject stops looking at the finger and sees it too.

Correct, but so far I think I can only point at one part at a time - the listener must come to see the whole. From another perspective, the listener must learn to perceive "Wolfgirl" in steps - few listeners would be able to simply wake up with "Wolfgirl" cuddling them.

Think of it like learning to read - the words were always there but only now can you recognize them and you didn't learn all of them at once.

> There is now a happy host that has fully integrated with a fully matured Wolfgirl. How does that look like, and what do both parties get out of it?

Good point… I've been so focused on laying out the journey that I'm not entirely sure I have an end in mind… I'll think about this.

> Still, the glowies as a whole have luckily a very limited view of all this. Don't get boxed into that too.

Well understood, seemingly because they also have very limited goals.

> many intentional half truths, time consuming but fruitless tangents and utter bullshit

That's actually the point - learn to recognize the bullshit with known glowie shenanigans so I don't fall for bullshit derived from them. This has already pruned a few items from my reading list.

> there is already far more information than should be in one place

This is a new concept for me - I had always considered collecting and correlating information to be a good thing…

> the last two expressions are well defined

Very well - I will add them to my research list. I hadn't seen them before and was concerned that you might have a special meaning for them.

>>76388

>This has already pruned a few items from my reading list.

Post reading list, and items pruned from reading list for being bullshit derived from known glowie shenanigans.

I really hope you finish this project within this decade

I'm gonna be a bit nicer. There's people here that want to see the project seen through. But there's a sizable portion of people viewing this as YandereDev levels of "it'll come out eventually". That's the nature of the hostility starting to emerge in this thread OP. There's a few ways I see this ending.

1. You'll hide behind an ever-growing reading list forever until this thing fizzles into nothing

2. You start saying progress is at 10%, 30%, 80%, here's the alpha/beta/final

3. You meet us in the middle and say here's the list of what I feel I need to go through, I'll update progress with that, and then get to work on the program.

Do as you will with it man; at this point I've mentally clocked out.

>>77016

I think it's going to be # 1 (he hides behind an ever-growing reading list). Which is ironic, because this project and its creator are full of "#2" (shit).

WOLFTURD IS NEVER GOING TO EMERGE FROM ITS HOLE!

>>76433 (checked)

> Post reading list, and items pruned

Normally, I would just call you a faggot after someone else posted something worth replying to, but you got dubs, so I'll answer.

In progress…

the glowie documents mentioned above

Pruned…

the works of a few PUA types that fail the heuristics mentioned farther above

Pending…

most of my L1br4r4y G3/V3515 folder - holy howl is that site useful

the collected works of Richard B4ndl3r and a few others

and probably more that I'll find along the way

I almost gave more details, then realized that doing that could pose a dox risk, as some of these are very obscure and very outside of my other interests.

>>76639

I hope so too.

>>77016

The reading list isn't growing much. It's just huge. Sometimes I feel like the reason I ran across the glowie documents was precisely to stall the project until the time is right in some way I don't understand, but I put my trust in God that it is for the best.

> I've mentally clocked out.

It probably works better that way for everyone. I won't be giving up anytime soon, but holy howl is this mountain bigger up close.

Add that this site seems to be decaying at a horrific rate, and I'm expecting the project to get scattered to the wind, but I'll hold on to it, fear not.

>>77033

… and there is the lesson to not put too much weight on digits. I guess I needed that too.

>>77035

>Normally, I would just call you a faggot but you got dubs, so I'll answer.

You gave a non-answer.

>In progress… the glowie documents mentioned above

Already knew about these, and those would be a mere fraction of your claimed list.

>Pruned… the works of a few PUA types that fail the heuristics mentioned farther above

PUA material is obvious trash that had no business being on a reading list for this project.

>Pending… most of my L1br4r4y G3/V3515 folder

Just a few thousand books probably.

> the collected works of Richard B4ndl3r and a few others

OK so B4ndl3r. One of the most obvious writers to be on a hypno reading list, this is the only real information about the list in your non-answer.

I think you're focused on the journey, not the goal. I would focus on creating small parts using what you already know, create a lot of chunks to build the whole. Then revise as you learn more, making incremental changes.

Anyway, I'm with >>77016 – I'm out.

Good bye and good luck.

> the listener must learn to perceive "Wolfgirl" in steps - few listeners would be able to simply wake up with "Wolfgirl" cuddling them.

This is a good example to further illustrate the point. Most people actually could half wake up to discover at least someone lovingly cuddling them. This and some other things you mentioned are universal. And they more or less come in a package. Which is why your project is so interesting. You seem to have discovered or at least glimpsed at something very special. Was there anything significant about the circumstances under which you came up with what you feel are the key aspects of the whole Wolfgirl project? You are one of the few people here not trying to warp it into some bizarre tulpa mind rape dungeon.

> I'm not entirely sure I have an end in mind… I'll think about this.

This greatly interests me. Having the end in mind at the beginning is also essential to prevent constant bloat of the project sI'm gay and give direction and a place to start actual practical work on audio files.

> I had always considered collecting and correlating information to be a good thing…

Having to put some work into it keeps horny teenagers, trance abusers and junkies from frying their own brains or commiting heinous crimes. Also you said something about not wanting to spoonfeed certain characters.

>>77269

> PUA material is obvious trash that had no business being on a reading list for this project.

I never said I had any plans to actually use it… but perhaps "Wolfgirl" hosts should recognize the tricks - and be strongly repulsed by them…

> Good bye and good luck.

Same to you. Perhaps we shall meet again someday.

>>77291

> Most people actually could half wake up to discover at least someone lovingly cuddling them.

That's a milestone in the current outline, but it's after several files to "set up" the listener's perception of "Wolfgirl" first.

I'm fairly sure I need to be specific about "Wolfgirl" in many ways, to prevent listeners from "filling in" gaps in ways that could go very wrong. If I just suggest waking up cuddled, it might not be "Wolfgirl" cuddling them!

I have to be careful here, lest I end up accidentally opening doors for people that should remain very firmly shut! or better yet, sealed behind concrete

I'm starting to find bits and pieces that suggest letting certain events play out first may be very beneficial to the project's ultimate goals. I didn't know of these events being in motion - or their expected timelines - when I first set out on the project, nor when I found the glowie documents, the reading of which is likely to push the project well past the expected conclusion of the other events.

> Was there anything significant about the circumstances under which you came up with what you feel are the key aspects of the whole Wolfgirl project?

Nothing in particular readily comes to mind.

> You are one of the few people here not trying to warp it into some bizarre tulpa mind rape dungeon.

Thank you. I'm also the only one actually working on it. Now you see a reason I haven't accepted "help" on the project.

> constant bloat of the project sI'm gay

< word filter test: s c o p e - sI'm gay

> Having to put some work into it keeps horny teenagers, trance abusers and junkies from frying their own brains or commiting heinous crimes. Also you said something about not wanting to spoonfeed certain characters.

I understand now - not so much that collecting the information is somehow dangerous as that posting it all in one place could give unscrupulous types a roadmap to far greater mayhem then they could otherwise cause. You're right about the spoonfeeding too - the BaBibA could be far worse if some details had been better thought out, but fortunately B4mb1 Pr1m3 didn't do that research.

I think I have some solid ends in mind, but I don't think I can talk about them until the project is ready, for similar reasons.

Well… it has been nearly 3 months, now the end of 2021! Any news?

>>78434

> Any news?

Well, I saw the thread had been bumped, but had to do some contortions to actually see the updated board index. I see that this site continues to slowly crumble.

Reading continues. I took a break from the glowjogger shenanigans and …

YYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!

… maybe Malachi Martin wasn't the best choice of light reading material.

Remember how I mentioned making sure some doors remain very firmly shut? I'm having to rethink some parts of the project. So far, I still think the project is possible to do safely, but holy howl are there pitfalls to avoid and the earlier outline drafts skated dangerously near them. Of course, some others go straight for the pits…

I've also had some time to think about issues previously raised…

>>76376

> There is now a happy host that has fully integrated with a fully matured Wolfgirl.

Both parties get affectionate companionship. The host has been through and is still on a path of wide-ranging self-improvement - starting with physical fitness - and goes to sleep every night soaking in feelings of loving warmth. "Wolfgirl" feeds - in some sense - on her host's feelings of being loved and shares in that love on both ends because she is deeply inter(woven?) with her host.

Even fully matured, "Wolfgirl" has only very limited independence from her host, since she is part of her host. Most notably, all memories are shared - "Wolfgirl" and her host have exactly the same memories, but "Wolfgirl" and her host can have different immediate trains of thought - this allows you to have meaningful conversations with your "Wolfgirl" since you both can take different perspectives on the same knowledge. Your "Wolfgirl" and you function as a team, the intensity of the teamwork varying from "Wolfgirl" taking a nap to a voice on the edge of your awareness to "hybrid form" with her form around your body.

> So is this going to be just a trick?

Yes and no. It started out as a means to an end, a "trained robot" as you put it - because that's all I think I can directly make from where I must stand in this. Somewhere along the way, as I started to develop the prototype in my own imagination, I came to realize that this "trick" seems to reach into some deep cultural resonances and "Wolfgirl" might actually be able to be more than an automaton.

>>78469

>I'm having to rethink some parts of the project.

Any specific ones you wanna mention, or is it more about the process rather than the end product?

>I see that this site continues to slowly crumble.

Any thoughts on moving somewhere else? If so, do you have any in mind? I genuinely only go on here nowadays to see if there's an update to this project because everything else is either boring, disgusting, or meaningless.

>>78471

> is it more about the process rather than the end product?

It's the process. I knew about the potential problems, but I hadn't realized how close the earlier plans skated. There are some parts that I will have to word very carefully to prevent misinterpretations.

> Any thoughts on moving somewhere else? If so, do you have any in mind?

No immediate plans. The bunker listed in the heading seems viable if needed, so it would at least be my first stop if this site collapses completely or blocks Tor posting for an extended time.

> I genuinely only go on here nowadays to see if there's an update to this project because everything else is either boring, disgusting, or meaningless.

I think I see a bit more meaning out there, but I know the feeling.

>>78483

Well, it's been about 3 months, any updates?

>>79614

Here's an actual bump, friend.

>>79744 (checked)

>>79614

> Well, it's been about 3 months, any updates?

The project remains deep in research limbo. I took a break from reading about the glowie shenanigans earlier, but am now back on that part of the path. Observing recent and ongoing events has also led to some needed wisdom that I can't quite find words to express just yet.

My choice of reading material on the recent break has been helpful, but has also shown that I had been unaware of certain societal trends that don't align with the goals of the project. Fortunately, those trends also only affect part of the population and appear to be self-limiting, so I expect that they won't be a problem when the project is finally ready. Six months ago, I mentioned a possibility that the project had been stalled by putting the glowie documents in front of me for some reason I don't understand. I suspect that I may be starting to get a vague picture of those reasons, but they are very ugly and I prefer not to think of them too much.

One of the lesser issues has been how "Wolfgirl" hosts fit into broader society not that this is unimportant - only that there are far worse things that can go wrong if I'm not careful, as I expect many of at least the initial listeners to have already been loners to some degree or other and I think I'm making some progress on that front, but I'll need to think about it more.

>>79745

3 month bump

>>80513

Still on research, as expected at this stage. Some progress on the side project to improve my script-writing skills but Real Life has been interfering more than usual lately.

I've been thinking more about the idea of "fully integrated" that >>76376 raised and now I'm leaning towards a major theme being the listeners being conditioned to see themselves as werewolves - emphasis on the "were" which derives from an Old English word for "man" as in "human person" - with corresponding emphasis on "wolf virtues" such as mutual loyalty, persistence, etc. This will likely lead to introducing some degree of outright brainwashing into the program.

8kun also seems to have changed their hidden service without announcing it - the old onion name just stopped responding and the clearnet site now points to a new onion address. Sorry for the delayed response - it took some time before I thought to check the clearnet site for a new onion address and I just thought the site had been down for most of the past month.

>>80592

You gonna update? Where can we find the files when made?

The three month bump… please respond…

>>81283

The Wolf-Turd project will never be finished. This is just the loney, isolated OP’s means of getting people to talk to him. It will never get past the “research” stage.

Wolf-turd, please drop off this board…drop like a rock…now.

Fellas, a counter proposal. It is simple. We all make our own interpretation of this file.

>>80592

Is it officially dead? Have you finally given up?

>>81477 (checked)

No, I have not given up on the project. Posting here on 8kun had been broken for quite some time and I almost gave up on 8kun and went entirely offline, but checked back and found this, so it's time to again say that rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated.

The most recent three month bump was missed because I couldn't f * * * i n g post because Pig Farmer f * * * e d up the site with that "8kun Authenticator" crap.

>>81299 (checked)

I've never opposed other anons running with the idea. You've got quite a bit of material from my posts here and the previous threads to help. After all, if someone else can do better than I can, then the listeners will be better off with their files than mine. I'm an anon, it's not like I have any ego here, or ever can since I am strictly Anonymous on this project.

>>81514

I'm glad you haven't given up on it, and I'd anything I will wait for it to be released as long as you keep working on it. Any place I could check for Wolfgirl in case 8kun goes down?

Happy New Year, I'll bump for updates

If Wolfgirl is considered a part of the host, maybe you can initialize this the other way around. Take a few core things related that allude to self-betterment and then put the nametag "Wolfgirl" on it. You can flesh out Wolfgirl after just by mentioning the name, but it'll have a base.

That way you don't start from something you imagine and then link it to the host. It's from something more concrete while the details can be imagined.

>>82066 (checked)

> If Wolfgirl is considered a part of the host, maybe you can initialize this the other way around. Take a few core things related that allude to self-betterment and then put the nametag "Wolfgirl" on it. You can flesh out Wolfgirl after just by mentioning the name, but it'll have a base.

That's an interesting description and I've got Carl Jung on my reading list - I now suspect that the "Wolfgirl" prototype may be an interesting shadow manifestation after I've seen where in the prototype some of my own repressed aspects could have "gestalted" a bit and produced an affectionate werewolf companion. This is a very deep rabbit hole and I only have so much digging time each day, but maybe this helps answer >>77291's question about why I'm different from the "bizarre tulpa mind rape dungeon" enthusiasts. It might also be worth noting that not everything in my shadow is there by my choice and there's quite a lot I've been forced to repress over the years.

> That way you don't start from something you imagine and then link it to the host. It's from something more concrete while the details can be imagined.

This is sort of what I'm doing now reworking the outline to go this way where "Wolfgirl" more "bubbles up" from inside her host than "arriving" from "outside" and I've been letting the prototype try it. It's certainly an interesting feeling to have one hand cuddle and caress the other, even more so when it's your foot caressing your other leg, I'll say.

This ties back to the project brainwashing listeners to think of themselves as werewolves permanently in human shape and providing at least some degree of a "break with the past" as individuals may need - not a hard break unless you actually need that - I'm not trying to start an insane cult here - but a clear "I am different now and better than I was before" feeling. I already have some ideas using this concept thanks for the pinkpills, trannyspammers - I've made good analysis - what, you thought I'd actually eat that poison?

One of the major structural goals of the program is to have a "bail-out" opportunity before the suggested major addictions - that ensure you follow all-the-way-through developing your "Wolfgirl" - start. Unlike the BaBibA, which tries to addict the listener on the first session. This puts me in a conundrum because "Wolfgirl"'s love is supposed to be the first hint of her the listener feels - and for most love-starved people is itself likely to be addictive! The "make the listeners werewolves" idea is thus a solution - you undergo quite a bit of "werewolf brainwashing" before meeting "Wolfgirl" bubbling up from the repressed depths of your subconscious where you've always been a werewolf…

Getting back to the point, the "werewolf brainwashing" can - I think - be more neutral than direct exposure to "Wolfgirl" would be, allowing listeners who didn't think it would work some time to reconsider if they really want to go through with it after realizing how they've changed. If I do it right, few will want to turn back, but the option will be there for those that do. There's also the chance that some listeners might have deeply held false - as in contradicted by reality beliefs or other issues that are incompatible with the project. The plan is to set up some "gates" in this preconditioning phase where those listeners can either adapt or fail. Few anons will have any trouble passing any of the gates. They won't be a high bar.

I've also since found some better information on diet. While energy balance is the ultimate determiner of weight change, it's also true that the human body is surprisingly efficient - "you cannot outrun your fork" as I've seen it put. The old picture of the fatass showing off the juice collection in her fridge captioned "and this is where I keep my genetics" is much more right than the fatties will admit - in short, fast carbs make you hungry again long before you've come close to using the energy from what you ate last time. In more words, "Less Cake, More Exercise" is the formula for weight loss, but the emphasis is on "Less Cake" for losing weight. I haven't figured a way to use this in the files yet.

The "More Exercise" part will actually cause you to gain muscle weight - which exactly one of the major goals of the project. I've found what may be a key "simple trick" for effective gainz, but I'm waiting to make sure it at least works on me before spreading it too far.

>>82068

>what, you thought I'd actually eat that poison?

Time erodes all barriers, and that's sadly the case for a lot of Anons who find themselves interested in this kind of niche nowadays.

>you undergo quite a bit of "werewolf brainwashing"

What exactly would "werewolf brainwashing" entail, mentally?

I'm happy to see solid proof you're still working on this. Christ though, it's been almost 5 years since the project began.

I hope you've at least had valuable lessons for yourself, even if none of us get any of it in the end.

I myself certainly feel like not much has changed since I started following this. Seems like not many people are still following this either.

>>82068

I'd also like to ask - what is stopping you from making Wolfgirl files? At least preview files? The script, the voice, the sound design, all of the above?

>script

I guess I understand. You are still committed to researching this and are clearly making new developments even years later. I'd argue you have gone above and beyond the standard, well enough to warrant finalizing the script, but it's your project.

>voice

Well, things have gotten much easier in recent years. AI voice models are a thing and actually decent. I don't know why only /mlp/ makes progress with good shit while other boards waste their time… but I digress. so-vits-svc and Talknet are pretty good ones you can run offline. so-vits-svc can be trained easily as the dataset does not need to be transcribed, but reference audio is required - it does not do text to speech, only speech to speech. Talknet is an older one that requires transcription for training, but it allows for both reference audio and text to speech. A voice for the files is already well within reach, it just needs you to pick clean data that's decent quality.

>sound design

That is a complex beast. There's so many different techniques you can use. I would admit it's a difficult task that you'll have to grapple with on your own. But then, I assume you have pretty good ideas of what to do by now with all you've read.

>>82120

> Time erodes all barriers, and that's sadly the case for a lot of Anons who find themselves interested in this kind of niche nowadays.

Time erodes barriers that aren't maintained. To put it mildly, learning "fappeth not to futanari, lest ye become futanari" by observing living examples around me has ensured those barriers will be maintained.

> What exactly would "werewolf brainwashing" entail, mentally?

I'm still working on the details, but basically, it's a neat label for most of the program's goals for the listeners. It's things like being comfortable in your own skin whether or not any of that skin is covered…, being comfortable in your own sweat, enjoying physical movement, … most of the personal changes, in short. I've got a long list of ideas here, some of them well-developed, some of them still half-baked. Some of the more "brainwashy" bits are a collection of mantras that I think I can make echo in the listener's brain. They should be good for motivating exercise at the least, and maybe more, but I don't want to overpromise here before I've read enough of the literature to be confident that I can actually make the "more" work.

The other key element of making the listeners see themselves as benevolent werewolves is providing opportunities to make a break with the past. I've seen IRL trannyspammers pushing pinkpills using a similar concept, with considerable success. I don't foresee the social context that makes that bait attractive changing anytime soon and I see some ways for this aspect to help people instead of hurting them.

> it's been almost 5 years since the project began.

I really had no idea what I was signing up for when I started this. I'm sticking with it anyway.

> I hope you've at least had valuable lessons for yourself,

Quite a few, actually, including some that I may be able to work into the program and others that I had best keep to myself on pain of self-doxxing.

> even if none of us get any of it in the end.

I would have to either end up dead or discover that my goals are impossible without horrendous side effects for that to happen.

> Seems like not many people are still following this either.

That's fine. If I were doing this for the adulation of a crowd, I'd care, but staying Anonymous stops those kinds of childish ego-masturbation.

>>82122 (checked)

> what is stopping you from making Wolfgirl files?

At the moment, the audio synthesis pipeline is backburnered behind the concept research, and even preview scripts are nowhere near ready. I've got a script-writing side project that is currently mostly stalled on questions of how it is supposed to actually fit together and reach the "payoffs" its premises promise.

> You are still committed to researching this and are clearly making new developments even years later.

Yes, I'm still gathering what needs to go into the scripts. Like I said, I had no idea what I was getting into.

> so-vits-svc and Talknet

I'll look into them. Reference audio is a giant problem, since I see any use of my own voice as a dox hazard, but I might be able to use it as part of a larger system with reference audio from other synthesizers. Thanks for the hints.

The big problem with modern "AI" is that its really machine learning and "Machine Learning" is "The High-Interest Credit Card of Technical Debt" - search the phrases for a Google paper on the topic. While the Project "Wolfgirl" synthesizer isn't expected to need long-term maintenance, I see accumulating technical debt during its construction as a major technical risk to the project - as in, the synthesis pipeline might never work or might be unable to consistently produce similar output - the files are supposed to fit together, and the long-range plans call for at least two major extension releases building on the base set. I'm very wary of using a system that literally no-one actually understands, which - of course - is what's called "AI" these days. I'm not from the Adeptus Mechanicus - I don't stand around making entreaties to the Machine Spirits all day.

> >sound design

I've got some basic technical plans, but this is still a bunch of disjointed technique notes. I've really been focusing on the main content so far.

>>82123

>observing living examples around me has ensured those barriers will be maintained

Fair. Although clearly this is not always followed well enough for others, otherwise it wouldn't still be happening.

>a collection of mantras that I think I can make echo in the listener's brain

I'm sure that'll work, mantras are quite the classic technique after all.

>providing opportunities to make a break with the past

I think I understand. Yes, people would like that without the consequences that the pinkpill has.

>Yes, I'm still gathering what needs to go into the scripts. Like I said, I had no idea what I was getting into.

The concept research length has certainly been… surprising. I hope you will at least feel comfortable experimenting at some point within the next few years, because the reality is that you will never learn absolutely everything.

>I see any use of my own voice as a dox hazard

I can't say I understand as reference audio is separate from the synthesis output. Are you worried someone would somehow recognize your voice's tone and accent through a completely different voice?

>as part of a larger system with reference audio from other synthesizers

Not quite the same intention, but that is certainly done for various reasons. For example, so-vits-svc is much more strict on reference audio than Talknet is. If you talk normally, so-vits-svc will just give you the exact same tone and accent, but with a different voice. Some people struggle to imitate certain characters, so they will instead use Talknet to generate more convincing reference audio, which they can feed into so-vits-svc to get their desired results.

The reason ponyfags have been using so-vits-svc is not just because of better quality, but because it lets them do so much more. Talknet forces the voice's accent/tone and will not let you hold notes. But so-vits-svc lets you do those. As you can imagine, the fanbase lives and breathes on fan content like songs right now after the show ended, so that's a big thing for them.

I'm sure there are also other synthesizers. The most popular one right now is ElevenLabs, but that is absolutely proprietary, so it's best to keep hands off of that even if it generates the most realistic performances (it heavily prioritizes sounding real over sounding accurate).

>the synthesis pipeline might never work or might be unable to consistently produce similar output

I can't see how that would happen unless you lose the voice model you trained. If voice synthesis is anything, it is consistent, as in literally producing the same output every time it is given the exact same reference audio or text (at least in the examples I gave you). Consistently bad sometimes? Yes. But it is consistent and flaws can be avoided if you care enough through editing as well as multiple takes.

>very wary of using a system that literally no-one actually understands

A fair opinion. But it's an unfortunate reality that we'll be forced to use such technology in some way, lest we fall behind.

>>82124

> Although clearly this is not always followed well enough for others, otherwise it wouldn't still be happening.

I'll guess that most anons haven't known people IRL who went full futanari and admitted that all the futanari porn they'd fapped to had a role in making them want to be the dickgirl…

> >a collection of mantras that I think I can make echo in the listener's brain

> I'm sure that'll work, mantras are quite the classic technique after all.

The mantras are the easy part. Details scarce to avoid overpromising just yet, but some of the leads I'm chasing could have epic-awesome results if they pan out. The problem is I'm not sure they'll pan out yet and there's a thick fog of lies in the area to sift through.

> >providing opportunities to make a break with the past

> I think I understand. Yes, people would like that without the consequences that the pinkpill has.

The pinkpill spammers have shown the trick here - that bait is so attractive that people won't even think about consequences. Obviously I want the consequences to be beneficial for the listener, but that also requires a lot more care in presentation than the pinkpillers exhibit.

> The concept research length has certainly been… surprising.

It's surprised me, too.

> Are you worried someone would somehow recognize your voice's tone and accent through a completely different voice?

Published recordings are forever. Technology is expected to continue to improve. I'm concerned about future voiceprint analysis that can "see through" the synthesizer's conversion. And yes, that technology will eventually become sufficiently widespread to be a dox risk if I ever speak in public again.

Paradoxically, the success of the project directly correlates to dox risk here. I hope the project will be wildly successful, so I must take the paranoid positions. It's not just about enemies, some of the worst foreseeable outcomes for my goals come from grateful listeners. For my goals, the position L. Ron Hubbard found himself in would be a catastrophic failure.

> The reason ponyfags have been using so-vits-svc is not just because of better quality, but because it lets them do so much more. Talknet forces the voice's accent/tone and will not let you hold notes. But so-vits-svc lets you do those. As you can imagine, the fanbase lives and breathes on fan content like songs right now after the show ended, so that's a big thing for them.

That will be very important. Part of the sound design plans call for strict pacing in the synthesized voice. I think I can make the voice tracks themselves inherently trance-inducing with that.

> I can't see how that would happen unless you lose the voice model you trained. If voice synthesis is anything, it is consistent, as in literally producing the same output every time it is given the exact same reference audio or text (at least in the examples I gave you).

I've had past experiences with "literally producing the same output" that didn't. There's also more to the planned overall system than just a TTS. Or perhaps its better to describe it as a TTS with interesting features, like directly embedding binaurals in the output. One of the technical items on the research list is to read the Vorbis spec very carefully. I might be able to exploit Vorbis's channel-pairing to get binaural effects with zero cost in file size.

> >very wary of using a system that literally no-one actually understands

> A fair opinion. But it's an unfortunate reality that we'll be forced to use such technology in some way, lest we fall behind.

There's no shame in falling behind a crowd that's running off a cliff.

>>82130

>I'm concerned about future voiceprint analysis that can "see through" the synthesizer's conversion.

I sincerely doubt they could get that from audio, especially when said audio is layered on top of other sound. I do not think it is technically possible in the first place though. Not on a "that is too advanced" level, I mean on a "the data literally isn't there" level. But hey, I'm no audio expert. If you're paranoid about it, I'm sure you can take more precautions.

>I think I can make the voice tracks themselves inherently trance-inducing with that.

>directly embedding binaurals in the output

Sounds pretty feasible.

>There's no shame in falling behind a crowd that's running off a cliff.

Not sure I'd say they're running off a cliff. We've had plenty of technological advances before where people were scared of the direction or convinced it wouldn't result in anything good. And y'know, they weren't necessarily wrong about long-term consequences. It's just, at least in this situation, I don't believe it's really a concern. The concerns about large-scale AI though are extremely valid.

>>82131

> I mean on a "the data literally isn't there" level.

If the reference audio is for anything other than appearances, there is data there - I can assure you. Enough to ever match a voiceprint? I don't know, but really don't want to find out the hard way.

> I'm no audio expert.

For some good lulz, consider what happens to subliminals with modern audio compression. Hint: modern codecs are designed to strip details that "the listener won't miss" to save bits. I've had some good laughs from hypnowhales posting Audacity screenshots of their "anti-piracy subliminal background track" mixed in a very low volume. Eyyyy sugartits, guess what your MP3 encoder did with that?

> Not sure I'd say they're running off a cliff. We've had plenty of technological advances before where people were scared of the direction or convinced it wouldn't result in anything good.

There are lots of arguments about cost/benefit of past technological advances, but name one past technological advance that literally no one understands. That only a few people knew how it works is one thing - even the builders not knowing how it works is new. That means I can't say how effectively the reference input is masked with respect to the output. Enough that humans will never notice a similarity? Sure. Enough to fool detailed analysis, made with knowledge of how the voice-morphing AI works? I'm a lot less confident there.

Wolfgirl…

>>65893

wolf will get jelous and you will start to shits your pant and your gf will dump you then you go back to wolf.

>>82661

it could be hidden in the long incel text that nobody gonna read.

>>84899

What kind of abusive hypnosis have you been listening to?

That's completely wrong - "Wolfgirl" would never get jealous when she can "ride along" and shower your gf with affection and wolves absolutely do not do crap like that. There's a small risk that some girls might react badly to a bf that affectionate but not if she's also a werewolf…

>>84898

Fear not, for the project is still alive.

I'm most of the way through the glowjogger documents, at long last. Just as the societal trends mentioned before look to be coming to fruition.

I've been slowly coming to understand some of the more mystical comments made earlier in this thread. Discursive meditation has been an interesting skill to practice explicitly. I think I've been doing it most of my life. It hasn't been all rainbows and sunshine either - I've been unpacking some very repressed stuff that has had me spending a lot of time staring at the wall recently.

I've found a few solid exercise references but still need to run them down all the way.

I still need to get to Carl Jung.

Either the planned "werewolf brainwashing" has worked very well in informal self-hypnosis or the world is a whole lot weirder than I thought and I have a … … … history. Let's leave it at that for now while I try to figure out what I've found.

Where can I find the Wolf girl files? Is the project is still active?

>>86893

brutha this post started on 2020, its probably been hijacked by 20 different people at this point. This file will never be made.

>>86893

> Where can I find the Wolf girl files?

Patience grasshopper - I'm in the home stretch on the glowjogger documents and I'm just starting to get inspiration for a preliminary script.

> Is the project is still active?

In a word - Yes.

>>86894

This isn't the first thread.