/fur/ - Furry

>Rule 5 might be expanded to include kiwifarms low quality garbage and anti-zoo garbage.

>anti-zoo garbage

Something tells me that you want it added because you don't like being kinkshamed.

I hate kiwifarms and furry drama myself, but it's very unusual to specifically hate them because they recently exposed people who abused animals for pleasure. It's not very surprising that you have a beef with them since /zoo/ had that content as well.

It kind of sucks that there's no inbetween with regards to large communities. It's either full on snowflake mode or edgy loli/zoo advocate.

I think we should purge all gays from this earth.

>>112711

I mostly mean that I want all that stuff to stay inside its single containment thread (here: >>107730 ) rather than flood the board with low-quality content.

Witch-hunts and personal armies are boring. It's possible to talk about negative items or mock people in far more interesting ways, if that's what people want.

>>112701

"Zoo" is alittle more than a kink.

>>112748

Meant as a reply too >>112711

>>112748

**To* 8chan wasnt meant for phones, fuck.

At least we're not

>>>/furry/

>>112701

delete old threads please

>>113073

Agreed. If it was announced "in one month, threads older than two months will be deleted" that'd be a happy day.

>>113074

>>113073

Elaborate a little on why you want that?

>>113075

Imageboards are a specific type of webforum. They're a webforum designed to encourage discussion. One aspect that encourages discussion is that old threads die. Depending on the speed of a board, you may need to change how soon or often threads die in order to keep the board from becoming stale.

Imageboards which become stale turn into archives, whether it be archives of PDFs like Lainchan is (was?) or archives of porn like u18chan.

I myself would rather have a fresh /fur/ full of discussion than a /fur/ archiving ancient threads, even if this meant reducing the page limit to just 3 or 4 pages, and reducing the thread bump limit.

You can do anything with an imageboard, I just greatest like when they're used for discussion.

>>113076

Well stated, and of course encouraging discussion and creativity is an important goal for the board.

What do you think about lowering the page limit in phases this month and getting anons in the habit of using archival sites?

>>113086

Sounds good. Of course, please understand I like anyone else have my own personal preferences. I hope more people chime in.

As for archives... third-party archives of the board and posts are good, yes. Warosu and desuarchive well-serve their populations.

A question is what people will use to archive porn and art, which is still important. e621 only works for some art, but not all of it.

But yeah, your idea sounds good!

>>113092

e621 is such unbelievable garbage, they keep doing retarded shit like replacing tags with "newspeak" words and having completely arbitrary standards for what can and cannot be uploaded that are entirely up to whether the mods wake up that day with a stick up their ass or not. the worst part is that there is no better booru for furry shit. other boorus have either no tags, worse tags, or no content. like Paheal, 34xxx, furry.booru, 34hentai, etc.

i wish we had a booru with e621s content and metadata, the moderation of 34.xxx, and the rules of paheal where its essentially "anything goes". instead you have to search 47 different websites every time you want to find a fucking lewd picture.

>>113086

I agree that these are sensible move. At first thought I was against lowering the bump limit, since a good thread can/could generate a lot of posts very quickly, but practically speak most threads generating discussion end up anchored because they went off-the-rails. If a discussion needs continuing, we can always just do as boards have always done and make a new one. Additionally, all of the ancient threads are a little bit annoying with how they're getting bumped.

I don't think it's really going to do a whole lot for us, though, as we've always struggled with having many people considered 8ch constantly had issues. Even before /furry/ got Bui'd to death, the several weeks of DDoSing and inability to access 8ch really killed the people that actually cared to come here (and, of course, anyone that comes here now has to recognize they're on many, many lists, too).

>>113149

The main problem I have with hosting an automatic archiver is the occasional time when illegal shit gets spammed through the site. I would be more than happy to write a scraper and host one just for /fur/ at least, but that stuff makes me rightfully nervous and it's a big downer on that idea.

>>113115

Got any examples of "newspeak"?

I haven't noticed anything particularly "inhouse", SJWish, or whatnot.

>>113155

I feel you. It's pathetic how dangerous it is for individuals to host user content on the internet today.

But if you're interested maybe there's a system we can work out?

Using a volunteer account we could set up a virtual page limit, where threads that move past it are locked, then after X amount of time they're archived and deleted. There could be a manual component too. Say a mod edits thread numbers into a post in the sticky and that signals for them to be archived immediately.

I'm nervous about jerryrigging features again because of what a bitch the site can be and CM falsely blaming us for a DDOS once, but there aren't as many requests involved in this as with whitelisting or optional IDs, I think.

>>113156

>Got any examples of "newspeak"?

>>108505 ctrl+f andromorph/gynomorph

Nigger.

>>113166

Welcome to the Rusty Razor. How edgy are you?

What are the janitors' and mods' policy on Discord spam? It hasn't happened again yet, but I'm reminded.

>>113759

>There hasn't been more said about the pages so maybe we'll start lowering the count soon?

Sounds good to me!

>>113759

I see two options:

Deleting one page a day until you reach the desired amount

or

Doing it all at once

>>113791

Yeah, enough time has past already.

I'll do a page each day or so and bump this thread as a reminder. Page 15 goes tomorrow.

Is the site acting weird for anyone else?

>>113860

IT'S INFINITECHAN!!!!!

>imp-lying weird bad

BACK2REDDIT NORMALFAGGOT!!!!!! >:^)

>>113861

🤡🤡🤡

I'm getting tempted to stack on the proposal to remove old threads, honestly. With exceptions of course. The board needs a general freshening up.

>>113882

I myself think a mass deletion is unnecessary. If you bumplocked EVERY 8chan/pre-8kun thread, then lowered the page limit, the old threads will naturally fall away as people make new threads. (and they'll naturally go as the pages go)

Sorting the catalog by creation date and working from bottom to top might work for this.

This is just what I think, though.

uwu

>Mark threw a tantrum and subsequently deleted the short lived meta thread on /v/, once again closing the only line of communication to the site administration

This is fine.

>>113886

All of the admins/mods on 8kun are good tbh

Major props to them sticking with the site even if it doesn't benefit them. They're very level-headed individuals and I hope I can do a project for them.

>>113891

I appreciate them sticking with it but I don't know if level-headed is the right word for Mark in particular. There's no reason for communication to be this broken.

>>113889

Have you guys thought about setting up a bunker just in case this place gets shut down again?

>>113895

I think he's under a lot of pressure, especially if a person named him in their manifesto.

I think the admins/mods have balls of steel to remain here and maintain the site. So major props to them. Especially Bell and co.

>>113896

>Have you guys thought about setting up a bunker just in case this place gets shut down again?

I thought that was Julay and the IRCs?

>>112711

What's edgy about advocating for loli? All I can think of is people using it to scare off the newfags that get squeamish about it.

>>113130

>Bui'd to death

why exactly did he do that, again?

>>113904

>What's edgy about advocating for loli? All I can think of is people using it to scare off the newfags that get squeamish about it.

A huge wake up call for me was realizing that subject matter like loli, zoo, and nazism (not conservatism nor anti-immigration positions, but actual unironic Nazism like Tarrant) are a magnet for the most edgiest anti-social people out there. Instead of most of them being "live and let live" or laidback, they're very aggressive by wanting that content in everything and looking down on those who don't make nor like it.

I try to have an open mind about everyone, but even if you try to brush that off they have other bad traits that make it tough to like them.

>>113948

>The Julay /furry/ wasn't made by us, but it seems it served people well during the blackout.

Ah, I just assumed it was you guys due to 8chan /furry/ being a ghost town.

>I started playing around with an IRC on Rizon, but I don't know how to work it yet.

IRC is alright from the the channels/servers that got linked in that one "home" thread before 8ch went down.

>thoughts on Julay in general?

It's a lot better than I thought for a site that's essentially being run by /cow/, they've treated other boards like /sw/ well- and apparently the guys running it are doing some overhaul of lynxchan now.

>>113948

>I started playing around with an IRC on Rizon, but I don't know how to work it yet.

There's already a channel on furnet and a channel on anthrochat, though I'm not in them every day. One has three people in it, usually.

Rizon is fine too, but a couple channels do already exist.

Yup, one new thread bumped off the loose pages. Page 13 goes in a sec.

>>113960

>>113953

Thanks, good to know

>>114005

thats not how it works, you cant get more discussion of one topic by banning/restricting another topic.

>>114005

You can discuss porn, you know. Before Ketaxis de facto took over u18chan, people came to u18chan to talk about the porn and there were more posts without images than with images in every thread.

>>114007

Depends if one topic is dominating the space and/or discouraging the people interested in the other topic. Example, dumps are really low effort to post, can swamp the board, and scare off people who get tired of hiding everything.

But we should also take initiatives to be additive about topics and discussion

>>114009

We haven't even been getting much porn discussion have we?

>>114010

>dumps are really low effort to post, can swamp the board

Agreed, this is bad.

>scare off people who get tired of hiding everything

Good, Christian/asexual furries should fuck right off.

>>114010

>porn discourages discussion

no it doesn't. if people get PTSD from porn pictures they could make a SFW thread, or grow a spine.

>take initiative

you cant artificially generate interest in a topic by culling down other topics, content-communism is not gonna work.

>>113948

>The Julay /furry/ wasn't made by us

It was made by me actually. It was funny when I posted in the board creation thread and some faggot screeched that he would refuse to use Julay while a furry board is allowed to exist. Then the fags that idle in that cytube room were complaining about it being on the NSFW overboard while people were dumping doujins on /trapshota/ at the same time. seriously, who actually uses overboards in the first place?

>>113953

>It's a lot better than I thought for a site that's essentially being run by /cow/

I'd certainly rather have Robi than Jim and Codemonkey so far. The whole site seems better over all, it's a shame other boards have been coming back here honestly instead of moving honestly.

>>114018

>who uses the overboards

the jannies (refering to the janny stat of mind) use them, maybe they've chiilled out after having to deal with the pedo chileans and /furry/ already being there, they'll probably still be hung up on 3d posting because of muh DOST

>>114018

>>114023

>It was made by me actually. It was funny when I posted in the board creation thread and some faggot screeched that he would refuse to use Julay while a furry board is allowed to exist. Then the fags that idle in that cytube room were complaining about it being on the NSFW overboard while people were dumping doujins on /trapshota/ at the same time. seriously, who actually uses overboards in the first place?

Keep in mind that they're not really acting in good faith when they complain about stuff like that since they tolerate worse stuff like loli, shota, and mass shootings. They're just bored people who want to stir up drama or milk lolcows. So don't give them what they want by being non-confrontational.

>The whole site seems better over all, it's a shame other boards have been coming back here honestly instead of moving honestly.

I use 8kun because everyone worked hard to bring it back and I don't want their efforts to go to waste.

>>114025

>they tolerate worse stuff like loli, shota, and mass shootings

Because they don't tolerate those things, they accept them. It's hip to like loli because normalfags are squeamish about it, but not to like furry because of like a decade of cuckchan le heresy yiff in hell if there's a snout it's out memes.

>>114043

That's the point, they aren't serious people and it's why you should take their complaints with a grain of salt. They just want to cause drama to provoke an emotional reaction. That's why they're even more angered if you're not angry from what they do.

>>113953

>IRC is alright from the the channels/servers that got linked in that one "home" thread before 8ch went down.

http://nanachis.pawz.ru/

and I think #8chan is on both furnet and anthrochat

>>113960

I haven't checked the others in a while but nanachis.pawz.ru is a bit more active

>>114103

what exactly is the point of reducing pagecount?

>>114104

Keeping a decent amount of turn over on threads and topics while the board is slow

>>114105

This. Feeling like an archive reduces the incentive for fresh discussion, I feel.

>>114138

>>114108

false an archive allows good takes and interesting content to be archived for later viewing and citation as well as the prevention of excess repetition of the same stale ideas, rather than losing them to the infinity of the internet.

>>114139

Does anyone know where this post can be found? Clicking on it leads me to the herm thread where I posted it but the post itself is just fucking gone and the thread isn't bumped

>>114108

> I feel

but do you really?

>>114143

>just make it again.

keeps telling me the image I'm using has already been posted. Fucking cocksucker

>>114143

>sanitize the board

<sanitizing furries

LOL that's a lost battle, all that will do is make people move to /furry/ and shitpost there instead.

>>114144

well, i made a post myself, and your post appeared out of nowhere

>>114147

Jesus fucking Christ I already re-edited the pics and was preparing to repost, fuck me

>>114147

Thanks for that. Do you think it might be because of the archive button? I think I accidentally may have checked it off.

>>114148

i dont know why but the thread wasn't updating. when i made a post, it updated with both your post and mine.

>>114150

your post doesn't have the archive ($) but i noticed you tried to add a "subject" title to it. thats the only odd thing about your post. everything else you might need to consult Bell.

>>114140

If that's what you want, you should use a regular webforum. Imageboards and textboards seek to create the freshest discussion possible, even if it means there's a little bit of repetition every once in a while. If people are directed to not "necro" threads, and to not ask questions, but only try to search in previous threads, new ideas about old topics no longer get discussed.

Regular webforums aren't bad either though. But that's not what this site is.

>>114143

Reducing page count was originally an idea I gave to Bell. You'll just have to trust me, since we're all anonymous here. My idea was based on doing the opposite of what I've seen on u18chan and lainchan. For a while, both those sites were de facto archives. No idea now, since I no longer use either. But when I was using them, one became an archive of porn without much useful discussion, and the other became an archive of computer-related PDFs without much useful discussion.

In contrast, I remember threads being pruned off the board by hitting bump limit, and by going off the last page of the board, helped conversation thrive during 4chan /jp/'s golden age. This, however, is also related to how generals stifle discussion.

Imageboards are transient. Enjoy it, like usenet before archives.

However, I do agree some of Bell's stances seem to be aimed toward sanitizing the board. I hope a /fp/ is never created again, even if /fur/ becomes active again.

This isn't like how porn is one of the things that killed /jp/: fur IS porn. Or, to be more pedantic, fur isn't porn, but is NSFW.

Fur is a celebration of being a human free from Christian/normalfag repression. That's why furry oldfags loathe Christian furries.

>discussion around these parts is usually fostered by the comraderie created by the porn

Agreed, as seen on old u18chan before Ketaxis's changes.

I'll admit, while I'm an oldfag to imageboards in general, I'm a newfag to /fur/: I only began using 8chan in 2019.

I think, if any two-board plan is made, it'd best not be a /fur/ and /fp/ split. Instead, a /fur/ and /ft/ (fur textboard) split would be better, with neither board being labeled SFW or NSFW, but just letting them naturally evolve.

>>114159

>seek to create the freshest discussion possible

>even if it means there's a little bit of repetition

That's contradictive. Not having an archive makes this shit MORE repetitive, not less so.

>webforum

<implying and imageboard isn't a more anonymous free-for-all webforum

chans ain't that special m8.

> If people are directed to not "necro" threads

I have never seen that happen in all my years on infinitychan and 8kun or on 4chan unless a poster is literally reposting word for word an recently archived post for no reason except to spam.

>>114166

Yes, an imageboard is a specific type of webforum.

>I have never seen that happen in all my years on infinitychan and 8kun or on 4chan

It was sadly a big thing Ketaxis (a mod) did on u18chan which obliterated discussion.

>>114169

Fur is inherently sexual, but not in itself a fetish or kink. :^)

And I don't want two boards. But if a second one was made, I sure as hell don't want a SFW/NSFW split for an inherently NSFW topic.

>>114169

>its not an ideology or a cult

At this point it is tho. See the political compass thread.

>>114174

>not in itself a fetish or kink

Isn't it tho? It's a sexual attraction for anthro creatures no?

>>114164

>>114175

no its not, it just happens that sexual deviants lean to the left in general, thats all there is to it.

>>114175

>At this point it is tho

If it is now, it also was in the past. Even when it was on mailing lists, outside of retarded disneyfurs, furry was aligned with the same people who go to leather clubs and gay bars, or at least wished they weren't too pussy to go.

>>114176

>sexual deviants lean to the left in general

<thread outright has a post pointing out how leftist furries are 90% bullshitters.

LOL yeah furries have no ideology whatsoever outside of consumerism.

>>114177

>furry was aligned with the same people who go to leather clubs and gay bars

<implying gays aren't a fetish

*insert shit-eating grin picture I don't have*

Herm thread OP here, since I'm not a Vol or BO I can't delete posts, specifically stupid shit like

>>99063

>>99066

>>99067

>>99078

>>99082

>>99143

>>99158

Any idea on how to delete these without reporting?

>>114182

>bitching

If I was bitching I'd just report them

>overmoderating

They're literally 5 word sentences screaming "cuck" at one another. It's cringe.

>>114183

Just report them. That's what the report button is for. Use a reason like "extremely low quality post" if you think that really fits.

>>114188

>Bell posts a reply

<incoherent rage in the thread begins

Thanks m8, let me go get my popcorn!

>>114188

Welcome to February, you live in Europe or Asia?

While you're here can you recommend a board for >>114164

I don't want to muck up the board with shitty posts and /trash/ doesn't exist no more.

>>114188

im liking the project threads. anyway, my point is that i like the board the way it is, with the amount of pages it has.

i dont think it needs changing for the sake of it. that won't increase traffic. publicity will. you have to spread it somehow.

>>114181

>>114187

A bit old, but the cuck shit is pretty annoying so sure.

>>114189

Can't wait to read it in the morning.

>>114190

Nah, I live in the US. Time flew by and I decided to be stubborn.

And I don't have anything in mind, but I may take a look around tomorrow.

>>114188

>But that expression comes in many forms, sexuality alone isn't extent of furry expression, and it isn't some kind of broad antagonistic rebellion against other people.

I agree. However, I still think furry is about the freedom to escape normalfag tendencies. In the words of a good friend and mentor, an admin of Vivisector:

>Furry is about being able to be someone else

I twist that on its head: I think furry is about being able to be yourself. Your true self.

>The point here is to allow and encourage discussion and creativity in this holistic understanding of the community.

Agreed.

>Porn everywhere and disparaging everything else isn't.

Also agreed. But disparaging porn is also bad. And that's the future I fear and some other people fear.

>>114191

>you have to spread it somehow

You might be able to attract some reasonable posters from 4chan /trash/'s /flg/ (F-List General) thread, and from their /gfur/ threads.

Otherwise, I can only think of looking for people in furry roleplay communities.

>>114196

Julay is basically the place all the stuff that's now banned from 8chan went to. It's only good for borderline darkweb lurking.

>>114159

>Fur is a celebration of being a human free from Christian/normalfag repression.

I draw porn frequently, but it's not repressive if people are opposed to it. Speaking frankly, I don't think it made people nicer nor free. It made them more toxic.

>>114192

>don't have anything in mind, but I may take a look around tomorrow.

thanks

>>114197

>this "too extreme for 4chan" shit again

Just fuck off with that worthless tactic.

>>114175

>Isn't it tho? It's a sexual attraction for anthro creatures no?

Isn't that more of a "preference" than a fetish? Nobody calls homosex or yerrow fever a fetish unless they're trying to make a point. And really, don't you ever get tired of jerking off and just want to see innocent cute fluffy things?

>>114282

>don't you ever get tired of jerking off and just want to see innocent cute fluffy things?

as soon as i do, i get the urge to jerk off again. because i want to fuck the cute and fluffy things.

>>114282

>don't you ever get tired of jerking off and just want to see innocent cute fluffy things?

true but I've noticed often that such people distance themselves from furries. In other words liking anthro animals =/= being a furry

>homosex

That study is incomprehensible due to "feels" based brainworms.

>>114284

> i want to fuck the cute and fluffy things.

No. Stop.... Kero, STAWP!

>>114295

>only kero can possibly want to fuck cute things

oh fuck off retard.

>>114298

>doesn't understand "le animal-fucking Kero meme" is a joke

You fuck off

>>114347

You put sage in all fields but the right one

Some sort of

>>>/furry/

is back.

>>114485

>Interesting. I should chat with the BO sometime soon.

I claimed the board recently, what would be your preferred method of contact?

>>114486

>How do you feel about 8ch? What keeps you here?

I love 8ch and I stay here to look at project updates like Kobold Adventure.

>Do the surrounding culture and politics bother you?

I'm ambivilant about it. On one hand I like it because it allows niche non-vanilla stuff like Kobold Adventure to enter. On the other hand, I got types who didn't like my content to the point where they were stalking and attempting to dox me, so I post content elsewhere now.

I'd definitely do a project on here, but my style is veeeeeeeery recognizable. Even in when I do it in 3d. So I'm trying to practice more.

This community is tame in comparison to lulz.net though.

>>114498

Mh I wonder if Miu's boring ass lesbians even know what actual fucking is...

>>114486

>Btw, I'd like to know what people think about the state of imageboards more broadly. Be as open as you can.

I think imageboards have a very important place in the modern Internet where nearly every other forum is a social media platform designed predominately around identifying yourself and building, in some form or another, a number that is worshiped as a sign of social affluence. Don't get me wrong, it's not like we're without elitism, but anyone can theoretically contribute to a discussion on 8chan regardless of their posting history, so long as their current post is relevant to the discussion. Reddit and Tumblr both have massive issues with their userbase digging through post histories as methods to devalue a person and their posts - despite being able to have a level of anonymity to your offline self, you still build an identity, and that identity gets abused because text posts don't carry tone and it's easier to be horrible to a person when you're not looking at their face.

Image attached is a lucid post I found off of Tumblr about how they tend to act, and from discussions with my zoomer coworkers it seems to be quite accurate - and I echo that I have seen much of that behavior on Reddit, as well. It's not like we're without our bad faith posters here on 8k, but there's a much lesser tendency for bad faith to get off the ground because the light moderation and complete anonymity means a) if you disagree, you won't be forever branded as a horrible person unless you're somehow easily identifiable (a thing that is less of a concern with a decent population of users) and b) it's usually easier to ignore these bad faith posters while still participating in the community.

Consider it like this: We have a pretty wide political spectrum that mostly coexists within our own community. Of course we butt heads on disagreements, but we're not devolving into a circlejerk. I think a lot of this is the lack of identity gives users better agency for participating without risking their Social Importance Number. People on Reddit with unpopular takes get blacklisted via userscripts and mass downvoted through historical posts, people on Twitter get mass-blocked via userscripts, people on Tumblr get run out by bullying - that doesn't really happen here unless someone is actively identifying themselves too well.

>How do you feel about 8ch? What keeps you here?

There's really no other place that facilitates decent discussion among furry peers that isn't a massive echo chamber. /trash/ is just porn-dumping central and memeing about how lonely you are without your gay husbando, u18chan is just porn archiving via loose category. /r/furry is just beginning artists posting their trash and getting complimented because if you dare tell them they need to learn their fundamentals before trying to draw an animal you're literally a child bullying Nazi. God knows what goes on in some of the furry Discord groups - and chatrooms tend to be dominated by a smaller clique, anyway, so breaking into discussions is totally impossible. The only other decent alternative for finding a furry community might be Twitter, but that would require using Twitter and gaining such a following where people would actually respond to you than ignore your existence as just another number to bolster their Social Media Score.

>>114507

i liked the cub threads in lulz, but boy was everyone retarded there.

Glad to get these responses. But just to respond to this question quickly

>>114490

>I claimed the board recently, what would be your preferred method of contact?

You can send an email to furadmin@protonmail.com and I'll share my discord if you use that.

>>114514

sent

>>114486

>the state of imageboards more broadly

Too much normalfag influence. The two major branches of normalfags are /pol/ and phoneposters.

But where they're less of an influence, imageboards are still good. I still talk about trains and trolleys on imageboards.

>How do you feel about 8ch?

8ch has more normalfags than the 4chan blue boards I like most.

>What keeps you here?

It's unique. Maybe I don't know of similar places, but to me, /fur/ was always something I couldn't find elsewhere, I place to discuss furry stuff with people who weren't retarded Christian furries. Christian furries and the bootlickers who appease them are the normalfag influence in the furry subculture.

>Do you feel comfortable here or on other sites?

>here

There's so little here, it's hard to feel uncomfortable or comfortable. I suppose I feel comfortable. In the past when it was still 8chan, I mostly felt fine too, especially when the kiwifarms retards were exiled to their containment threads. They got what they wanted (in one thread) and everyone else got the porn and discussion they wanted.

>surrounding culture and politics

Again, there's so little now. In the past, it was pretty decent. Definitely one of the better places. Porn keeps out most Christians, so the furries remaining were able to have useful discussion.

>>114488

>Just let it grow naturally, and let people be themselves- and it should be fine as long as you can keep the lights on.

I agree with this. In many places, where mods work only to be janitors, keeping a place clean from spam and legit garbage so the community can decide it's own fate, those places were great. 4chan /jp/ used to be this way, but generals killed it.

The question is whether it would work here or not. No way to know until you try, though.

>>114505

>Reddit and Tumblr both have massive issues with their userbase digging through post histories as methods to devalue a person and their posts

Big this. Not even mailing list users or usenet posters do this so bad, even though they could.

Also, I agree entirely with the image you posted. I used to be far too close to SJWs and they really are a type of Christian and a type of conservative.

>>114505

>but anyone can theoretically contribute to a discussion on 8chan regardless of their posting history

While technically true, this is becoming less and less the case in practice on certain big boards: you can contribute if you have the right opinion, if you don't you're a fedposter/jew/whatever.

It's a similar situation to the one on reddit pre-GG: sure, you could make a new account and post your opinion without getting banned (mostly), but what's the point if the overwhelming majority of the userbase doesn't want to listen?

>inb4 but the small boards are fine

For now, sure, but how long will it last?

you know what the best shit is? nudes of Mark are everywhere, people are emailing ron and jim almost every day complaining about Mark and asking them to give ownership to someone else, there are 2 threads per hour complaining about the moderation on /v/, and yet it's STILL got 800 unique IP's while /fur/ has 40.

make of that what you will. i have some theories of my own on what's happening with that but i think it's funnier to leave it up to your interpretation. and i'm excited to see your embarrassing theory that makes Bell completely clean and innocent of that.

more likely though, this is going to be one of the ones that you ignore and lie and say you have me filtered though. you only respond to ad hominem stuff and not actual questions or criticisms because they're easy to deflect.

>>114599

>>114600

/v/ lost several users as well due to the site outages, it used to be 2k before.

>just ask him and he'll tell you "yeah i killed /fur/ because I hate 8chan's conservative base and I'd rather have a dead board than an active but wrongthink one"

Pro tip: It's not "conservative" nor "right-wing" to be a racist pedophile who defends fursuit watersports and worship demons. That's libertarianism. Like the other laughing stocks on this site, you're an unironic redditor who think that you should have the right to harass anyone without any consequence because you on le-edgy 4chin.

>he is PROUD of what he's doing here and the censorship will only grow with his ego.

You don't care about censorship or anything out there, you just want an excuse to bitch about everything.

https://archive.fo/AH1c0

>>114602

are you claiming that aren't better places to talk about video games? why would that issue be exclusive to furry?

>>114602

how come you get so butthurt about ad hominem, but that's all you do yourself? aahhhahaha if /v/ had 2000 users, and /fur/ had 2000 users, then why does /v/ have 800 users right now while /fur/ has 40? you keep missing this integral point.

do it. ask him. ask him if he thinks his moderation has a role in this and see what he says instead of making theories about his imagined good nature. he won't lie about this because he's too vain. so ask him.

>>114604

meant to quote this one first >>114601

>>114607

stream of consciousness writing my man, just like your favorite movie of all time SEOUL CONTRE TOUS (I STAND ALONE)

Thanks Mod for read my E-mail

I am sorry my fur-iends .if you saw some spam with unrelated comments. he's my hater spamer. he want to destroy me

>>114611

do you have a board? have you thought about making one?

>>114599

>conveniently ignoring the spammer that targeted the furry boards specifically

>wanting thread shitters to get a free pass because of their political leaning

>wishing for /fur/ to be more like /v/

I wonder who could be behind this post

>>114617

>the anonymity means they don't have to worry about being hunted down by the users over their post history

That's worthless, though.

As long as you don't post personal info that can get you identified, you can get the same exact result on reddit by simply making a new account if people start digging in your comment history.

The advantage of anonymity was the culture that came with it, and even reddit managed that with spacedicks and such: usernames aren't a big deal if the users are a decent bunch.

>but it's nothing on the level of reddit where countless people have reported getting banned from entirely unrelated subreddits because they posted in /r/The_Donald once

That's an advantage, because it lets those people know immediately that those seemingly unrelated subreddits are actually political circlejerks.

The preemptive bans are a symptom of the problem, hiding the symptom only makes it slightly harder for the users to realize what's going on.

>or people get called out and disparaged as being a TD poster even on completely unpolitical threads

Take a look through /v/, that kind of political dogpiling happens here just like on reddit.

The only difference is that instead of saying "you like Drumpf", the idiots go "you like jews/fags/negros"

>and most of the people I've seen called a fedposter/jew/whatever had pretty bad takes anyway.

That's the slippery slope that got Tumblr, the tactics remain shit even if applied against good targets.

Also, that stuff harms anon culture, proper counterarguments to bad takes are half of the fun of these kind of places while zero effort shitfests can be found everywhere.

>>114614

so you're attributing 100% of the board's failure to the spam bot now? 100%, and not even 1% is bell's fault? want to hear you say that.

>political leaning

can you quote where i said that?

>be more like /v/

can you quote where i said that?

>>114614

btw, the board surpassed /v/ in posts per hour AFTER the spam bot. the spam hit /furry/, not /fur/.

>>114621

>Also, that stuff harms anon culture, proper counterarguments to bad takes are half of the fun of these kind of places while zero effort shitfests can be found everywhere.

No one, in the history of the internet, fully changes their worldview from an online argument. That's a libertarian meme used to justify wasting time on pointless arguments while getting ridiculed.

Libertarian ideals can only work with good people who restrain their behavior. In practice most of the time, it attracts unrestrained clowns that demand good people to have restraint for their bad behavior.

When did this place get overrun by literal cocksucking newfags. No activity and no content just people to jack your horn. This is what you wanted all along huh Bell?

Here's a basic timeline for you cucks on how not to run a board.

>Blue runs the board /furry/ to great success

>FFW to Blue handing the board over to cuckysky who bans people making fun of his friends and the board going to shit

>FFW to Buifag spamming the board. This is not a DDOS you tech illiterate ludite.

And now the relevant parts

>/furry/ refugees find /fur/

<Bell autisms over it and proceeds to try to purge it

>anons dont want to deal with this retard so they go to /trash/

>New vols are added for the increased userbase, and 2 cyclicals are made for s/fur and g/fur

<Bell has a fit nearly anytime porn was posted, a new vol tried to calm down both sides

>anons dont want to deal with this moving goalpost so they leave

>/fur/ is finally botspammed too

<The whitelist bot kemothera.py is created and many dont want to deal with this either

>once everyone active is whitelisted, sitewide Buifag spam begins but doesnt have any effect on /fur/

>Cuckmonkey finally does something useful to stop Buifag spam, /fur/ doesnt improve while every other board recovers

<The whitelist is kept around for another year+ and has no real importance ever again

But wait, there's more!

<Bell tries to force people into boxes and force discussion, he fails at both. Making links in the main header and repeatedly whining in threads point people to use only the 2 threads for porn.

>Its obvious for anyone to see the double standard because he had no problem with sfw dumps that are empty in discussion.

<Still another year+ of trying to migitate /furry/ refuges from sending Bell into sperg sessions and makes new restrictive rules to sate himself.

>Yet more anons dont want to deal with this sperg BOs arbitrarily autistic episodes so they leave too

<Bell makes /fp/ and tries to push /furry/ users off the board with anchors, locks and deletions.

>Guess what, people leave

</leftypol/ fags shit up the place and the only thing that's really done about them is deletion

>People dont want to listen to poltical spergs endlessly so they stop coming around

Oh but we're not done yet

<Bell has another episode and decides things that didnt need to be spoilered, now did.

>Who the fuck wants to come to a board where your thread might get forcefully moderated for 'a more tasteful catalog'?

<Bell fires the vol who did the most work for the board, who was also generating the most oc and giving helpful /ic/

>Drawfag activity plummets once the big guide is pulled and /ic/ vanishes. gee wonder why

>The other vol quits and it's back to a skeleton crew while the board is limping along in activity

<Fully convinced he's right and did nothing wrong he doubles down on more rules to try to strangle whats left

<Bell hires new some shitty vol (((Buzzmod))) and they run it like reddit for another year+

>He sees no problem with this, people don't want to deal with this reddit shit so even more stop coming to the board

<Out of nowhere one day Bell and his reddit co try to force new containment for cubs so it cant be posted outside of cub threads

>hmmmm what happened?

>8chan is taken down and what was left of this board is scattered to the wind

>An alternate bunker is made but people on /fur/ still crawl back to this piece of shit for some unknown reason.

>>114601

>/fur/ had the natural population of /furry/ after it got spammy.

*-until Bell happened and got hands-on with the board.

it's almost like pissing off every one of your users one by one will leave you with a dead board. It isnt one group, it was the whole board. the entire community was attacked and suffered under this insufferable autistic twat of a BO. Everything would be better for /fur/ if this twat had less power, he is clearly not cut out for leadership. The only thing Bell ever did right was make kemotherapy.

>>114648

thanks for writing this. im too retarded and lazy to be so informative and incapable of blowing people the fuck out this hard. i also quit /fur/ around the time he got some new moderator, (Bird i think?) that was the best goy of all time, so i missed some stuff. the mod log was nothing but Bird(?) for weeks after, banning everyone over the slightest transgression.

>>114648

>whines about dead site

<complains about new activity from newfags

>whines about politics

<proceeds to use the le funny jew parenthesis ((( xDdddddd

>states that bunker is better

<doesn't stay here

>lies about drawfag thread being deleted

<archive.is/j1n0S

<https://archive.is/mKXt1

<https://archive.fo/8u3GB

You can't even keep your narrative consistent by contradicting yourself repeatedly. So why do you expect us to believe you? Are you stupid or lacking self-awareness?

>>114653

Don't agree with that him at all as he's objectively wrong and speaking in bad faith. He's stirring shit for entertainment.

>>114650

>Apparently I missed out on a timeline where /fur/ not broke 200pph, but surpassed /v/? That's something.

There was a pretty short period where /fur/ was, I think, the second highest board on the list - the order was probably something like /pol/ /fur/ /v/ /tech/ /a/. It was during some peak drama, and I particularly remember it only because we actually had a couple of users from other boards stop by and post asking wtf was going on. It was just some cow drama that caused it, I think. For a while, /fur/ did stay decently high on the list (rivaling /tech/) but that was probably around the time that every thread got derailed by someone baiting cubshit politics and everyone taking the bait, because taking the bait is half the fun. It was never a high top board on basis of actually having good furry discussion, from my memory.

>>114655

I didn't actively agree, I said I would agree - conditionally. I'm sure you could make a case that people left due to moderation. I'm sure people left due to PuppySky's moderation, but on the other hand I'm pretty sure it's just been these two losers complaining about moderation ever since GamerGate happened. The eyeroll part is the implication that it was solely due to moderation, because you know obviously /v/ has been in a healthy state what with unbumped threads staying on the catalog for weeks at a time - even back during 8ch.

>>114657

SHUT IT DOWN!

>>114656

NOWHERE have i said it's 100% bell's fault.

i have been simply asking for people to be rational and say "maybe bell can take some blame". i even asked here "can you admit 1% of it can be blamed on bell?" >>114640

>>114649

Birdmod was one of the skeleton crew but you're absolutely on the money of him being a best goy because all he ever did was try to console Bell while he had an autistic fit, all the while doing his bidding because he was never challenged by best goy. Birdmod was another huge faggot who censored talk around the drawthread guide being pulled and pretty deletion happy.

>>114653

Absolutely none of the DDOSing youre referencing had any effect on /fur/s population, you're just in denial grasping at straws while you ignore the elephant in the room everyone already knows. /fur/s problem has always been Bell and his yes-men who had no individual thought.

>>114655

>implying anyone said anything about the drawthread itself

Looks like someone has the reading comprehension of a 5 year old.

>le funny

>bad faith maymay

fuck off back to reddit, or just get a trip so you can get filtered

>>114656

>Its all just TWO people since gamergate

this is some incredible boogeyman-ing, you're probably the biggest retard on this site. /v/ is a piece of shit too and you wont find anyone defending Mark

>>114652

He doesn't have time to respond to simpletons who want to waste the time of others.

>>114656

He's wrong both conditionally and objectively. By his own admission, he admits that it's not dead by complaining about new active users that weren't available in the past. That should have ended idiotic rant there.

>>114659

>Looks like someone has the reading comprehension of a 5 year old.

From your post >>114648

:

>Drawfag activity plummets once the big guide is pulled and /ic/ vanishes. gee wonder why

>Birdmod was one of the skeleton crew but you're absolutely on the money of him being a best goy because all he ever did was try to console Bell while he had an autistic fit, all the while doing his bidding because he was never challenged by best goy. Birdmod was another huge faggot who censored talk around the drawthread guide being pulled and pretty deletion happy.

Except that the big guide never disappeared in the first place you stupid fuckwit. I was the one who posted it in the first PLACE. READ IT HERE:

https://archive.is/j1n0S#selection-759.0-903.56

>>114663

He has a life for starters, not everyone is mooching off their parents to whack off to the Kpop equivalent of Kidz bop.

>>114664

In less than one day, you went from

>we lost this valuable guide! FUCK U BELLL!!! ;___;

to

<y-y-your guide i-i-is worthless anyway >:'C

Cope harder lmao. I don't contradict myself frequently to fail at starting drama, and that's because I'm not a shithead who wants to waste the time of others. You're very low IQ if you resort to putting others down for no good reason.

Suppose it wouldn't be a furry board without egoist dramawhores everywhere.

>>114667

Yet you mentioned it when you wanted to gaslight Bell with it. When you realized that no one backs your contradictory buzzword-laden rant, you try to pretend that there was a completely different mysterious guide that every participating drawfag somehow missed.

You've lied more than several times to get e-clout, only to obtain it from a unlikeable racist pedophile NEET like Garret. I'd congratulate you in investing your time properly, but I want to ask you this question first. How do expect us to believe in your initial claim after lying several times beforehand?

>>114668

I know, right? Those types want to be a knock off of Metokur, but they end up being the most whiny contradictory contrarians out there. I feel bad for them since they're antisocial loners, but they won't learn unless if you're harsh with them back. It's not hard to restrain yourself and respect others.

He said it repeatedly and Bell stated that he vowed to improve on those issues, but he still wants to continue putting others down.

>>114671

>reddit snowflake ecksdeee

Please parrot more cringy buzzwords that you obtain from grifters that you donate to. Bet you become real elated when they read your superchat lines because you can't acknowledged for anything else redeemable.

>you just cant handle the truth

Truth has no contradiction. Lies do though. I'm glad that you're the most dumb liar out there so that everyone can see it as well.

remember when this board was more or less just /cow/ 2?

Was sure fun seeing the front page being nothing more than a bunch of schizos accusing each other of being pedos and trying to personal army against some literally who jewtuber

>>114673

<grifters that you donate to

Seems oddly speciific, in the freudian sense.

>>114674

nice reading comprehension

>>114675

He's not the first type.of person I saw with that type of behavior. Foxler is one such notable example.

There are 2 e621 evacuation threads, i suggest 1 is anchored so that it gets archived and doesn't plug up catalog.

Suggestion: banning unironic political bullshit like >>114749

It's not thread relevant, its not even furry

>>114785

you couldn't win by throwing buzzwords so you ran to the meta thread to ask for a big strong man to save you. good job girl, proving once again women are inferior.

>>114813

I'd just reconsider using the name/trip, at least for a while. Do you use it for any particular reason?

>>114800

Kek, imagine being this deluded.

>>114839

I'm curious about this IP having a history

>>114830

good. welcome to the anon pack. now if we could just convince eerie dude to stop that'd be great. one down, one to go.

>>114839

Are you sure that you weren't banned for writing this gem? >>114749

You didn't even have plausible deniability at all.

>>114843

well at least you were consistent and deleted the thread too. good job i guess.

>>114843

That's why I always give it a benefit of doubt when people complain about any moderator on 8ch. Some people unironically think that you're literally Stalin if you ban or criticize them for defending child rape.

>>114843

christ

>>114847

It was a very old thread and admittedly it probably wasn't monitored very closely. That said I agree. I think those threads are a kind of concentrated negativity that shouldn't be humored anymore. People should be able to distinguish between reasonable community discussion and antagonistic /cow/ shit. If they're not sure they can ask in the meta thread first.

>>114849

I remember plenty of that from the zoophiles actually. Some even went as far to suggest not copulating with your pets was animal abuse from what I remember. That and bullshit like "if you eat hamburgers you should be okay with dog rape".

I'm frankly surprised they didn't get the boot sooner- especially on a furfag board that really wouldn't want that sort of association for fairly obvious reasons.

>>114621

Reddit is inherently broken since it has voting, which makes it useless for discussion. Discussion is based on disagreement. Reddit encourages people trying to suck up to the community.

Reddit is only useful for porn. There's pretty good 3DPD human porn there. But that's it.

>>114648

>An alternate bunker is made

Link please.

Why were the public murrsuits and murrsuit watersports threads bump-locked?

I'm not even into ws, I'm just trying to understand why actual furry activity is being autosaged.

The threads:

>>101221

>>114619

>>115014

Rules 2 and 3

>>115014

It's probably because it's a form of dox. Although it doesn't have names, it has people that can be easily identified by their fursuit as every single of them are custom made. It contains videos posted from IRL people without permission.

>>115037

It was already explained in the post above yours that they were bumplocked for Christianfurry, family-friendly reasons.

Your idea is an interesting reason, but it doesn't hold: they were all in a public place and the fursuiter clearly acknowledged being recorded. If it were someone being recorded without his knowledge (hidden camera in a private bedroom) I'd indeed be worried and support removing such videos.

>>115038

The type of people who post those vids aren't sex workers who post it in places like Onlyfans or Youporn. Instead, they just share it with close friends for free on twitter ADs. It's true that some have public profiles, but I don't think they intended strangers to view it outside out of that sphere.

Sage seems to be broken unless its in every fucking column

>>115311

>Start some fun discussion about fluffy people.

Like what?

Though I'll answer it for you, there is none. All there is is "what rarted thing did a furry do today?" or "what new fap material is there".

The sooner you realize this the better for all parties involved.

>>115312

Expand on a world building concept, talk about your favorite furry series and what you want to see from it, discuss a concept for a unique furry game, ask for feedback on a project you're working on, shout out a project you're following, start a goofy roleplay, etc. etc.

Don't project your narrow perceptions onto others.

>>115312

>Like what

Like the worldbuilding thread

Or fuck do some writefagging or edits and colors, make memes or something. Fuck have some creativity.

>what rarted thing did a furry do today?

Doesn't require 5 simultaneous threads that have minimal differences. The same goes for fucking over-specific threads like "canine cock" when canine general exists.

>>115312

>>115315

The fact that you think that those are the only topics you can talk about says more about you than it does about others. You need to be more productive and have a personality.

>>115316

im all good with some quality control. but this "or else" attitude? that shit wont fly around these parts. what the fuck "else" are you gonna do? ban people?

either way you know im right, trying to police discussion under the guise of "quality control" will not work. it will just decrease pph.

>>115317

yeah 3 canine threads is just stupid. then again, there is also a futa thread and an "intersex" thread which are the same thing. and that intersex thread that was created after the futa thread has been up for weeks now.

so just clean up dupe threads, sticky the SFW thread and have your discussion there, the rest of the people can have their kinky porn talk, shove the threatening attitude up your rectal cavity, and everyone's happy.

>>115319

>furry is a fetish

We could increase the board activity by like 100-fold if we just had a general to quarantine this hilariously bad take.

>>115324

The two users will just ignore it and lie about it like they do with everything else. Their objective isn't to increase PPH, it's to waste everyone's time by arguing with strawmen and falsifying events.

Looking at the catalog or searching for duplicate takes far less effort than writing paragraphs of bullshit of how the moderation team is censoring all porn, so I think they're either intentionally disingenuous or incapable of using any imageboard.

>>115322

have a dog thread and a "canine cock" thread is also different because a canine cock can be attached to anything. see how stupid that sounds? thats exactly the same as having a futa and an intersex thread at the same time.

>You feel threatened by people telling you not to make duplicate threads? LOL

no, you misread my post because you're a contrarian retard looking to epically "get me" with one of your oneliners, you truth-manipulating tumblrite. what i said is that for someone who complains about dupe threads, he sure as hell is doing a great job at NOT deleting the dupe threads. the intersex thread is still there, and the canine cock/dog thread are still up simultaneously. so what is it?

> they're prohibiting:

>1. duplicate threads

not doing a very good job at enforcing this, because people just make a slightly changed version of an existing thread like dog/canine cock, or futa/intersex threads, and they're still up not deleted.

>2. weird fetishes like fursuit watersports

AFAIK he just said to post this shit spoilered

>You know, rules enforced by every other furry imageboard.

yeah, other boards enforce better, complain less, and do less retarded shit. but yeah i agree there. extreme content should be spoilered

>>115326

>canine cock thread can be attached to anything

It doesn't need a separate thread, the majority of canine cock is on canines. If you want canine cock on a non-canine species then fucking request some in the canine general.

>thats exactly the same as having a futa and an intersex thread at the same time.

An intersex thread is a pointless thread split.

>>115319

This entire reply is just you making excuses for being a lazy entitled faggot.

>Writefagging not happening

Bullshit. 4chan /trash/ have a dozen different furry generals from /scaly/ to /hfur/ and each have at least SOME writefagging, not all of which is lewd or image based.

>You want sanic recolor OC

<strawmanning the argument

<ignores the requests in the Edit thread being varied.

This ain't 2008 pal, "muh sonic Donut Steel OC" is a meme that only exists with FA 'artists', and thankfully stays there

>Are you that faggot Moot

Holy shit you really are stuck in 2008, go back to u18chan.

>Memes don't work that way

<ignores all the shit from "furry irl" to the entire meme thread

Keep bitchin'

>this board was slow as shit and you could have threads reach bump limit while still being on the first page AND then take months to move to the second page

<bump limited thread on page 1/2

I've never seen that happen here. That's not an argument regardless, since most of the threads I'm referring to are not even CLOSE to bump limit.

It was never that slow, not even now

>a fetish into a lifestyle.

<posting more than porn spam on a Cambodian string-pulling board is turning a fetish into a lifestyle

Not him but fuck off you bullshitting fuck.

>>115320

>trying to police discussion

having people post in relevant threads and not make pointless duplicates won't decrease PPH. It's standard board policy across the chans.

>clean up dupe threads, sticky the SFW thread

Yes, good idea

>leave others to shit up the rest of the board

<people will enjoy having their threads getting sunk to page 7 because horny retards have to create a dozen specific threads for no reason.

>>115329

>It doesn't need a separate thread, the majority of canine cock is on canines. If you want canine cock on a non-canine species then fucking request some in the canine general.

>An intersex thread is a pointless thread split.

yes anon, those are exactly my points. glad we agree

>>115329

Don't agree with them on anything because they're dishonest people who are objectively wrong. You can't compromise with those who act in bad faith.

>>115330

You didn't even argue those points to begin with. You lied about how they were banning all porn, and then you shifted the goalpost repeatedly to win at least one argument like you've done with your previous pathetic attempts in this thread. You're still wrong by the way.

You won't be happy if they lock any of the threads that you're complaining about, because you'll go back to square one and lie about how that they're authoritarians banning all porn. Of course, it'll occur after you lie about how community is empty wasteland despite you being one of the many users that are active here.

>>115328

>y-y-you just want to start arguments!

im advocating against dupe threads. but you keep twisting my argument to suit your narrative of sucking bell's cock dry.

bell has always, from the days of 8chan, wanted to make /fur/ sfw oriented. but thats not gonna work because you can't tell your community what to talk about. so when i poke fun at him saying he wants to ban porn, im not talking about dupe threads, im talking about he literally wanting to ban porn and not doing it because he knows that will kill his board for good.

>>115331

how do you live being this much of an emotional bitch all the time? you exude passive-aggressiveness in every post.

I decided to do a quick check on Duplicate/Pointless threads

>Murrsuit

There are 6 Murrsuit threads. 3 are anchored and as such practically dealt with. 2 however (Female murrsuit) are duplicate threads with neither being close to bumplimit. One is on page 6 or 7, the newer is on page 1

>Chat

4 chat threads none of which exceed 100 posts

>>112825

Page 2 Replies 19

>>114494

Page 4 Replies 6

>>109699

Page 7 Replies 46

>>107481

Page 9 Replies 55

>Canines

>>91501

Dog thread - substantial amount of content (over 150)

>>112402

Cock thread (anchored)

>>114160

Canine thread - 19 posts

>Gay (pride)

>>110323

>>105602

The page 10 one is probably gonna go soon, but still.

>anime/manga

This is the current thread with the most posts and content.

>>114707

Posts from the following threads should be reposted into the current thread

>>112464

>>111897

>>14722

All of these threads involve graphic novel/animated media so it might as well be put into 1 thread.

That's just stuff that stuck out to me. Cleaning up duplicates and pointless 0 post threads about nothing will clean up the board, which makes any newcomers more likely to post and contribute since they don't have to dig through a bunch of excess crap.

>>115333

>im advocating against dupe threads.

That's not what you initially stated here, >>115315

>you keep twisting my argument to suit your narrative

I think you're projecting there a bit.

>how do you live being this much of an emotional bitch all the time? you exude passive-aggressiveness in every post.

It's hilarious how those that complain about "sensitive tumblr snowflakes" end up being the oversensitive types. Learn to take what you dish out and stop lying.

>>115334

>>115335

>>115336

They're all about different topics and people previously complained about threads here having too many generals.

>>115328

>e621

Yeah go back m8, e621's tagging system is notoriously shit.

>futa/intersex not the same

Futa is a kind of intersex, but not all intersex are futa. Problem is, the herm thread covers a large portion of intersex, namely females with varying levels of male genitalia (either fully shemale or with both pussy and cock). Busty boys are just glorified MtF shemales in terms of porn. Cuntboys? Not nearly as popular as futa, but regardless one can make a thread for that then.

>canine =/= canine cock

I'm just going to repost on this regard: It doesn't need a separate thread, the majority of canine cock is on canines. If you want canine cock on a non-canine species then request some in the canine general.

>>115337

>They're all about different topics

Not really.

- The dog thread and canine thread are almost identical, the latter just uses more sophisticated a name for dogs.

- The Murrsuit threads are literally the same topic.

- The Manga threads are not all identical in OP, but are essentially of a similar topic; anime/manga furries and can comfortably be reposted into 1 thread without discrepancy

- Intersex thread is obviously targeted at futas considering the OP outright talking about have a cock and breasts, and the majority of posts are futa, which is retarded seeing how popular the herm thread was and is.

A cuntboy thread would be fine, but that's not what's implied

- The gay threads are essentially the same thing; gay furry shit.

- the chat threads are mostly the same "where can I go chat with other furfags?"

>>115338

>Yeah go back m8, e621's tagging system is notoriously shit.

I brought the numbers in to showcase a fact that should be common sense. They re impacted by three factors.

1. Fictional animals like pokemon can have canine cocks.

2. Female dogs don't have canine cocks.

3. Anthro canines can have human genitalia.

That's why "dogs" is not equivalent "canine cocks".

That's why the page numbers are different.

>>115339

The board used to follow your format before, where everything is organized into generals. I didn't mind it, but some users complained about it being too restrictive to the point of killing PPH. One of the same users (not you, another one) that initially argued about it is now trying to reinstate that rule again with the same excuse of "dead board because of muh mawdz".

>>115340

>Fictional animals like pokemon can have canine cocks

Usually canine-cocked pokemon are canines like Lucario. Making esoteric individual threads for canine-cocked dragons for example is stupid since its just a pointless image dump thread at best, might as well just use e621 and skip waiting for someone to post their personal preferences.

>Female dogs don't have canine cocks

Check either dog/canine thread. Plenty of males to go around.

>Anthro canines can have human genitalia

Not common since part of the appeal for furries is the knotted cock.

Look, while your point makes sense, /fur/ has way too few posters right now for such miniscule specification. Almost all of the pics in the now anchored thread are canine anyway so the point is moot. When PPH rises then such esoteric splits could be made feasibly.

>page numbers are different

You couldn't fit all those pics in 3 threads without them all reaching bumplimit. The point of a thread isn't to just dump pics, so page numbers are irrelevant.

>some users complained about it being too restrictive to the point of killing PPH

Then they're entitled faggots who've forgotten what being booted off of 4chan into /trash/ is like.

Generals shouldn't be a rule but it ought to be a guideline, especially since the death of 8ch reduced the PPH drastically. /furry/ is basically dead and /fur/ needs to streamline itself until more people come over.

Examples for general threads that are good to have would be:

Equine general, Canine general, /Scaly/ general, Avian general, Hfur general, etc.

These would concentrate users to specific threads and let them discuss while reducing the massive shitload of dead threads in the catalog. Then if any anon has a specific request they need they can make a new miscellaneous thread outside of the generals that would cover that topic, such as the preg thread or a Source Request thread or the Edit thread or Worldbuilding thread or more recently the Furry Movie, SFW and Non-Sexual threads

>>115340

>I brought the numbers in to showcase a fact

A better showcase would be

A) a pic with "canine" and "-canine_penis"

compared to B) a pic with "canine_penis" and "-canine" The results would be more informative.

Just my opinion but cubshit is disturbing shit TBH. I accidentally clicked on the Scub when my cursor slipped and some of the comments I glanced at were downright nauseating.

>>115349

What, do we need to cover the whole board in bubblewrap to saveguard your precious feefees?

>>115351

>person expresses an opinion

<Hurr no hugbox durr

Do you enjoy provoking conflict?

>>115349

Scub often seems like outright rape and power fantasies, whereas gcub often seems like boys being boys and exploring their bodies. That said, depending on the day, hermshit often grosses me out, mostly because of the needless hyperness that's somehow woven itself into it.

>>115341

>Making esoteric individual threads for canine-cocked dragons for example is stupid since its just a pointless image dump thread at best, might as well just use e621 and skip waiting for someone to post their personal preferences

Congratz you just made literally all porn threads obsolete.

>>115359

> get this guy >>115349

<expressing discofort as an opinion is now "triggurd"

morons like you have made the word triggered meaningless.

>>115359

>read the post carefully. i never advocated FOR dupe threads. you just want to believe i did because you need it to "win" the argument.

I read it correctly, just pointed out that you shifted the goalpost from "mods banning porn" to "mods won't ban dupe threads". Two false narratives at once.

>you're twisting my words to suit your narrative, the fuck do you think you are, the newyork times?

No one is twisting your words, they're not just buying your dishonest argument.

>the point of an imageboard is to talk about the porn without the censorship of e621

>also, e621 isnt the end-all of furry porn, they have DNP lists, they keep taking shit down on the emotional whims of the retarded, some stuff is never uploaded, so on and so forth.

1. Show examples of DNP porn currently anchored in this board. (fursuit vids don't count as they're reposted from twitter)

2. 8kun has DMCA system.

3. Imageboards, especially 8kun boards, aren't meant to be censorship-free. That's why we have rules in place. The rules are determined by the creator of the board, not disingenuous people like you.

>get this guy >>115349 and this guy >>115354 all triggered.

<"if you don't love child rape like I do you're a sensitive snowflake!"

I just hide it.

>>115364

>>115367

there you go again. twisting my words to suit your narrative.

/v/ isn't a fetish board you disingenuous cunt, when i say "boards is to talk about porn without censorship" im talking within the context of a furry oriented anonymous imageboard. but of course you can't address my points directly because you're fucking wrong. you need to spin this shit in your favor before you address it in order to win, for whatever thats worth to you. this is the 4th or 5th time you've done this in this thread alone.

>no one wants to hear it

the people in the respective thread probably do. because they get off on that shit. and thats what most of the furry fandom is about i bet you're going to pretend im advocating for full on ERP on threads with this point, because thats what you do, twist and exaggerate everything i say

>no one is twisting your words

you are by virtue of being a disingenuous cunt over and over again.

>le cringe boomerzoomercoomer xDD

piss off back to reddit

>muh DNP

DNP isn't the only thing that e621 doesn't have, there is stuff that just straight out isn't uploaded there or even things that are uploaded to other boorus, just not specifically e621. ie: the pictures of phrase the skunk that i posted on the futa thread. you can't find those anywhere but FA, and theres far more material out there.

whats your endgoal with all these walls of text? its getting tiresome to try to deconstruct your bullshit. at this point i'd rather bell make the board SFW so everyone worth talking to migrates to neo-/furry/ and i can stop putting up with your shit. and if he doesn't, dont worry, i'll stick to posting to my designated fetish threads. ideally i'd like the community to be gathered under one board for higher PPH/visibility.

>/v/ isn't a fetish board you disingenuous cunt

Neither is /fur/. Accept it and enjoy what you can here, or don't, but recognize that this board isn't going to cater to your narrow view of furry.

>>115368

>twisting my words to suit your narrative.

No one is twisting your words, they're just don't believe in your disingenuous argument.

>im talking within the context of a furry oriented anonymous imageboard.

The Board and Site Owner sets the rules, not you.

>DNP isn't the only thing that e621 doesn't have, there is stuff that just straight out isn't uploaded there or even things that are uploaded to other boorus

The Boards and Site Owner sets the rules, not you.

>its getting tiresome to try to deconstruct your bullshit.

You don't "deconstruct" anything. You just ignore the points and rehash your debunked argument repeatedly.

>at this point i'd rather bell make the board SFW so everyone worth talking to migrates to neo-/furry/ and i can stop putting up with your shit. dont worry, i'll stick to posting to my designated fetish threads. ideally i'd like the community to be gathered under one board for higher PPH/visibility.

In less than 30 posts you went from demanding "mods to make the board SFW" ( >>115315 )

to "mods not banning dupe threads" ( >>115320 )

to "mods not making the board SFW"( >>115368 )

By your own words, your arguments aren't intended to make the board better, but to fracture the community with the hope that users would migrate to others. Do you see why people claim that you're disingenuous? Especially with how you contradicted yourself that quickly.

I knew that from the very start that you were a disingenuous, but I wanted you say it from your own words. You don't want to improve anything, you just want to waste everyone's time by forming contradictory arguments.

>>115370

You have good intentions, but they're unfortunately going to lie with the intention of causing drama. Don't be surprised if you see a hyperbolic reply about "MODS BANS ALL PORN AND CENSOR EVERY SPEECH!!!111" despite the catalog disproving what they state.

>>115369

You can't expect anons to cater to what your view of furry is either. It's undoubtedly a fetish, but just because that's what it is doesn't mean that everything featuring it has to be porn- just that some of the characters in that work will have "being furry/anthro" as part of their design for sex appeal and whatnot. Not everything that could be called furry has that in mind obviously, but to say that most furries themselves don't would be an outright lie.

and then there's the nonsexual definition of fetish that it also falls into. eg just having a fixation on something

>>115373

Thanks, and trust me I know.

>>115374

W-why would you bother telling me this sexual fetish nonsense and then present me with a pedant's definition that basically supports my stance?

Anyway I'm not going to explain how communities work again.

>>115375

Because for the vast majority of furries, the sexual aspect (ie all the furry porn) is very much relevant or their primary way of interacting with the fandom. The SFW, while also widespread- isn't the sanitized version many would like to pretend is the only part of being furry. In fact, it's pretty much guaranteed to be paired with an interest in ye old yiff. Even despite that loud minority that won't shut up about that.

>>115380

I'm perfectly aware of those threads. Posted in good number of them too.

Anyway, I've never really argued that SFW/non-porn stuff isn't present in the furry fandom. It's just that a lot of that which isn't porn-related tends to fall apart due to it being so fucking broad in scope in comparison to something like say the Star Wars or Star Trek fanbases. Usually what you get is a bunch of smaller communities that get dumped together with the fandom at large due to Beastars or whatever having animal characters.

TL;DR- furries are a mess due to having little in common other than certain small fanbases of niche comics and the like.

hope that didn't come off as too rambley

>>115383

>you are also pretty identifiable across the board

You're not even responding to the same person there.

>you argue like a passive-aggressive woman

Slick. Not sure what else I expected from someone unironically using "tumblrite." Grow up.

>so whats the plan

And so we've come full circle >>115311

To be precise, this is a call for awareness and managing the amount of these threads.

I don't think lecturing people all over the board is very friendly way to spread /fur/ry consciousness, so putting a cap/turnover on the related threads while people discuss ideas in the meta thread seems like a good start.

>>115387

>Are you viewing it as if fans of Beastars, for example, identify specifically as fans of Beastars and are technically roped into the fandom?

It's a bit of both honestly. Seems to be mostly split between people who read Beastars because they heard it was a good manga, and those that picked up on it because they were a furry.

As for what I mean by "falling apart" and the like?

It's mostly that they have very little in common other than a vague interest in something so broad that it's naturally a bit difficult to find something to bond over. Suppose you could argue fursuit stuff is something unique to furries that fills that role, but that's too expensive for your average furfag- and somewhat controversial as a result. Getting to the point, people have trouble getting along even when they share a common specific interest- so it's no surprise when people with much less in common get into drama.

>>115424

not him but man do you have NO arguments at all.

>taking a screenshot of today

>ignoring the rise in PPH that was yesterday

You do realize people have work right?

>fetish is actually a lifestyle.

Nice strawman. They never said it should be a lifestyle and previously argued the exact opposite. Liking anthro animals =/= fetish. How is a worldbuilding thread a fetish? That's like saying Dracula is a vampire fetish.

>Muh tumblr

I dislike SJWs but "bad take" is standard chan-speak. If anything you're more of a newfag by not knowing this

>only duplicate NSFW threads that get mentioned

Because only NSFW threads have major duplicates currently. The "ban nsfw" is addressed because you keep bitching about it.

>>115424

>Guess they have a major duplicate thread issue

No, because each general is for a seperate but still GENERAL topic. So a general /scaly/ thread rather than 3 seperate threads for crocodiles, dinosaurs and dragons, because doing that is stupid.

>You sure showed me

<cherrypicking to seem smarter

People can scroll up you know. So yes I did 'show you'

>I'm going to continue

then don't be surprised when you're banned

Act like a shill, get treated like one

>stupid shit that doesn't work

Demonstrated the opposite, but keep denying

>inb4 muh PPH

/fur/ prior to 8ch shutdown was very active, its current slowness is due to a massive loss of users over the 5 months since August. Current posters have lives outside the board, which is why PPH at the moment is low. Because its Posts Per HOUR, not day or week.

>only CERTAIN places

Yes, certain places outside of chans. But keep making excuses for your dead and uncreative mind

>why I ignore it

<I'm going to ignore this because I don't like it

Whether you consider it shit or not is irrelevant

>>115424

>100 X 0 is still 0

/fur/ has an average PPH of 18. The board list only shows activity from the last hour or so.

I'll review the catalog later; over duplicates, dumps, etc. Discussing my perspective of it may be helpful, especially before acting.

>>115417

>Animal lads, but not animal lasses?

Lol honestly I forgot it had lass as a counterpart

>>115424

>Uh oh sweety you need to go back to >>>/tumblr/ this place is too problematic for you.

Hun, if anyone's too sensitive for this place it's you.

You're not on the fence about anything. You have no curiosity or concern about what I have to say. You're just trying to sell a narrative and sow discord. Don't waste your time.

>>115424

>Uh oh sweety you need to go back to >>>/tumblr/ this place is too problematic for you.

No one here a "lefty SJW tumblrite snowflake". You just want to start drama out of boredom.

>"An excess of porn and fetish consumption as well as community drama and cynicism." The "excess" will never be defined.

They're not banning porn. Look at the catalog.

>Interesting how it's only duplicate NSFW threads that get mentioned rather than it simply being duplicate threads, it's like Bell has a particular axe to grind.

Porn dumps are about effortlessly ctrl+c and ctrl+v from either your porn folder or e621.

The Patreon Gallery scraping threads (yiff.party and kemono.party) are kept because creators put effort into creating that type of content.

>He (I too) wants Belle to shit or get off the pot. Everyone here knows Bell wants to change what's "acceptable" to post, we want to see if it's worth even looking at the board anymore.

Since you've admitted that you want to start drama, I guess we can stop listening to you.

>>115435

There's really no issue with the board, both of those users admitted that they want to start drama out of boredom. It's best not to give those disingenuous types what they want and dismiss their concern trolling.

>>115424

>>115315

>>115437

>There's really no issue with the board

pretty much. then again, if there's no issue, why did bell post a threatening "dont test my patience" post? that just rubbed me the wrongest of ways. thats the beginning of a bad attitude that leads to being a shitty BO.

>everyone i dont like is just starting shit for no reason

stop sucking bell's cock so hard, its gonna start bleeding. you have no idea how imageboards work probably because you just migrated from tumblr or some other heavily moderated shithole site, and im not the only anon telling you this because its obvious.

on imageboards, BOs and jannies need constant reality checks like that so that they don't become zealous and lose the connection with the users.

>>115435

>I'll review the catalog later; over duplicates, dumps, etc. Discussing my perspective of it may be helpful, especially before acting.

great, i pointed some loweffort/dupe threads earlier in a post you quoted. those are a good start for the shredder.

>>115442

>why did bell post a threatening "dont test my patience" post

Its essentially a warning; keep shilling bullshit and you're going to earn yourself a ban.

>pointed some loweffort/dupe threads

Report the OP of those thread and he'll probably get to them faster.

>on imageboards, BOs and jannies need constant reality checks like that so that they don't become zealous and lose the connection with the users.

While true, Bell's barely been operating for a year so far and with the massive drop in users constantly haranguing the same "he's gonna ban NSFW!" faggotry is just retarded.

>>115442

>why did bell post a threatening "dont test my patience" post?

Because you admitted that you were baiting for amusement. I thought that you weren't a "sensitive snowflake".

>thats the beginning of a bad attitude that leads to being a shitty BO.

You've been claiming that he's a bad BO from the start, nothing will ever make a difference to you because you just want an excuse to attack people.

If it were any other imageboard like u18 and e621, mods would just ban and scrub your posts since they don't want to deal with that disingenuous behavior for days. You should be grateful that Bell is even listening to you.

>stop sucking bell's cock so hard, its gonna start bleeding. you have no idea how imageboards work probably because you just migrated from tumblr or some other heavily moderated shithole site,

Ever noticed that those heavily moderated sites have more content than ones with lax moderation? After all, you frequently rip content from those "shithole sites".

If order was less popular than an abstract idea of freedom, then the bunkers would have 10x more posts than /trash/, /fur/, and twitter combined. In reality though, that doesn't work out since people will repeatedly push out low-effort content like drama or reposts. You're one such example as you've admitted to lying repeatedly with the intention of starting drama.

>BOs and jannies need constant reality checks like that so that they don't become zealous and lose the connection with the users.

They don't need to be doormats at all, but that's besides the point.

If you want them to do their best, then their priority should be with important issues. Not with trivial non-issues formed by the intention of starting additional drama.

>>115454

No one needs to waste time with you. Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Small Minds Discuss People

>>115457

They'll just hop through a VPN.

>>115458

>Great Minds Discuss Ideas; Small Minds Discuss People

interesting quote, Imma keep that for later

>>115462

<waaaaah I wanna do anything I like because I'm an entitled faggot

>can't handle light banter

Since when is repetitive shilling, light banter.

>>115465

filtering is useless.

>>115465

Probably because with such a small userbase, the reverse remains true where legitimate users could be run out just as much. These threads are currently lingering for actual years - with how much we're always at each other's throats, people actually using IDs to filter will just end up talking past each other.

>>115462

>i want to post and discuss furshit without janitorial disruption.

Nah, you only stated that you wanted to stir shit. Stop making excuses when you've been caught in your lie: >>115315

>>115465

>>115467

It's just one user who switches between VPNs. Unfortunately, he only has two writing styles.

What'd bell do to you closeted faggots?

>>115470

>i-i-i totally got you!

you didn't but ok, if it helps you sleep. even though at no point does that post say "i just want to stir shit up"

>>115466

shilling involves a product being sold though

>>115473

Funny, because you admitted it several times through out the thread.

1. >>115454

>embrace getting fucked with

2. >>115442

>BOs and jannies need constant reality checks like that s

3>>115368

>at this point i'd rather bell make the board SFW so everyone worth talking to migrates to neo-/furry/

Additionally, you've changed your excuse for your gripe with mods several times.

You went from:

"mods refuse to make the board SFW" ( >>115315 )

to "mods not banning dupe threads" ( >>115320 )

to "mods refuse to make the board SFW"( >>115368 )

to "mods are disrupting me" ( >>115462 )

Protip: Stop lying.

>>115451

it's sad how seriously you take yourself and your board of 40 users. i feel sorry for you.

>>115475

nice VPN you got there

>>115470

>just one user who switches between VPN

Don't have a VPN but it is in fact useless BECAUSE of VPNS. And if you ban VPNs you lose a massive portion of users in countries who do not allow 8kun.

>>115475

>your board of 40 users

Still more than /d/

>>115474

man, you're the biggest farthuffing faggot i've ever met. you're literally wrong about every assumption you made about all of my posts. but like i said before, you need to twist my words to win. and you keep going on and on and on about how you "got me" and how bigbrained you are. you're exactly the kind of unfun faggot that belongs in twatter and not here.

>>115477

>>115479

its funny that the womanposter now sees me in any post that isn't 100% supportive of his point of view. im his own personal boogeyman

>>115480

/d/ is for /d/ickgirls

>>115481

>you need to twist my words to win

You outright admit your own faggotry, nothing to twist here.

>>115481

>i'll lie and tell you to go to [insert social media] also, you're a snowflake if you aren't nice to me insulting you

You write a lot, but say very little. Please rewrite that template again.

>its funny that the womanposter now sees me in any post

Everyone can see it because you're not a bright person. You use the same pejoratives and have the same talking points. Maybe if you would do a better job of appearing different if you weren't anti-social.

>>115484

>>115482

just stop

>>115485

>>115487

Respect is mutual, not handed out for free. Everyone will be nice to you if you're nice to them. Got it?

>>115454

>>115462

Depends on your idea of being fucked with. I don't know if you have issues reading social situations, but the supposed banter hasn't been landing. No hard feelings if you actually struggle with that, but work on it if you can and chill on the edgy garbage. It doesn't make for good conversation or good banter.

Anyway let's move on from that

>>115457

I don't remember the details of the decision to turn them off so people can chat discuss it again if they want. It's a matter of trade offs. I remember making a script that selectively edited IDs into certain threads, but that's a very hacky solution that the finicky servers don't like.

>>115483

Rule 6, the one everyone forgets about. It'll be inconsistent for a while because I hate having a lot of spoilers on the catalog, but I did it to some explicit stuff.

There's no strict science to what's ideal. These are chill for example >>113975 >>65579

If it's a really steamy image, think it over. You'll probably be fine if you do that.

You don't want to make your /fur/iends browsing from work horny on the job do you?

>>115490

>You don't want to make your /fur/iends browsing from work horny on the job do you?

We're on plenty of lists visiting to 8kun as it is, I don't think anyone wants to visit this Website from work.

>>115493

>Don't throw rocks in glass houses.

You literally cherrypicked what I said to make your argument sound good

I stated that there were dozens of threads that at the LEAST has SOME writefags, with the obvious implication that there is plentiful writing in the majority. Skimreading cunts like you need a kick up the arse and an eye implant I swear.

> Nice spin

<muh current year

Grow up

>not from the board

Then fucking leave. You're literally the only faggot here jeering and japing about BO

>old" /fur/ using the older considerably less restrictive rules was so active

Old fur was MORE restrictive you dumb bitch. Holy fuck you really are a newfag. People got bans for the most inane shit.

also

<ignoring that the drop in users was due to the August shutdown for 5 months, forcing /fur/fags to move to cuckchan.

Keep huffing your own gas

>how that ONLY happens OUTSIDE

Keep bitching, actual examples BTFO your opinion

>Those are just reposts of shitty furry memes

<just recolors of "human memes"

Just stop. Stop talking about things you know nothing about you newfag poser.

>>115493

>the 29th is a Saturday

<people don't work on Saturday

Ok

>If it's true it's not a strawman

You don't know what a strawman is then. It doesn't matter if its 'true' when its absolutely irrelevant to the argument and addresses some projected fantasy instead of reality

>bad take is tumblr tier shit.

<everything I don't like is tumblr

Grow up or if not just go back to /pol/

>>115493

>catching shit from me and others

There is only you and your samefagging

>your changes are stupid.

Opinion discarded

>>115490

okay so more arbitrary rulecucking. but you totally don't want to sanitize the board for the lifestyle faggots.ok.

people shouldn't be browsing this shit at work anyway.

>>115494

>You literally cherrypicked what I said to make your argument sound good

I merely highlighted what you said, didn't reorganize order or cut out pertinent information.

>Grow up

Awwww mad that I've got a got a decent memory and don't make the same mistakes every year like you do?

>Then fucking leave.

Until I see it's unsalvageable but not before.

>You're literally the only faggot here jeering and japing about BO

Sure about that?

>Old fur was MORE restrictive you dumb bitch. Holy fuck you really are a newfag. People got bans for the most inane shit.

I said old /fur/ not ancient /fur/ (which absolutely no one used) which is what Bell's changes would make it again.

>Keep huffing your own gas

That was an admission from YOU that the board was plenty active before the site got shut down and when it came back up MONTHS later it had a lower population. I only quantified the figure.

>Keep bitching, actual examples BTFO your opinion

Where?

>Stop talking about things you know nothing about you newfag poser.

Buttmad doesn't change reality.

>>115495

>Ok

Oh pardon me for assuming the average 40 hour work week is the norm and most likely people would be off on the weekend.

I seem to have forgotten that with furries being weirdos, by law they cannot take off during the weekend and can only take Tuesdays and Wednesdays off.

Fucking dipshit.

>It doesn't matter if its 'true'

Actually it does.

Bored of this concern trolling.

>>115493

>>115503

>Until I see it's unsalvageable but not before.

It's unsalvageable. You can leave now.

If I humor this for a moment, what does that even mean? What is being "salvaged" by antagonistically ranting or admitting you don't believe in this place fundamentally. What do you want to salvage in a place you don't want to be in? Why are you in a community if you can only talk at people, not with them?

But don't waste your time, just go.

>>115503

>I merely highlighted what you said

you cut out the context and pertinent information, stop lying

>mad that I've got a got a decent memory

if anything you have a shitty memory of a paranoid schizophrenic, remambering and seeing things that didn't happen

>Until I see it's unsalvageable

No-one likes you, no one agrees with you, as far as your 'opinion' is concerned, it isn't salvageable.

>Sure about that

Yep. At this point even the critics of some of Bell's ideas have put aside their differences just to tell you to fuck off, me included.

>I said old /fur/ not ancient /fur/

<I'm TOTALLY an Old-fag, but not a Reallly really Old-fag

Nice cope

>admission from YOU

An admission that came with a specific and stated context of the 8ch shutdown, a context you yet again ignore in favor of your strawman, and now attempt to backtrack

>Where

Examples have been given, you ignoring them does not make them go away, and being a smart-ass over it does not either.

>>115503

>Actually it does.

No it doesn't. A nonsequitur can be true, but is irrelevant... that's with the assumption that your arguments are true at all.

>pardon me for assuming the average 40 hour work week is the norm

Kek, talk about being unaware of reality. Weekends are meaningless in terms of labour jackass.

>Fucking dipshit.

Did you learn that today in highschool?

>>115505

Just permaban the faggot

>>115519

Yet another pointless/duplicate thread. We already have a Phat Butte thread, we don't need a second the same.

>>115523

Annoying at first glance maybe, but an artist making stuff is nice and a better start to a thread than the other one. Let them play it out and see what fun is had. I'd only disturb the momentum by acting now and if it's not a good idea they can adapt for next time.