Why are you so poor? 08/01/19 (Thu) 18:37:04 No. 134202 [View All]
If you can do magic then why aren't you rich?
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05/30/20 (Sat) 14:27:05 No. 134808
Oftentimes I contemplate going for big wealth, but I just can't commit myself to it. I already have everything I want. Whenever I try to conceptualize what my life would look like if I were rich, all I can see is work. I'm happier to just convince the universe to deliver my groceries and pursue more visceral goals.
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05/31/20 (Sun) 04:32:57 No. 134825
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>134808
One time, while living in a fairly strict religious cult, I heard some "forbidden" music. Some seriously bluesy rock and roll (probably Stevie Ray Vaughan) and asked the Holy Spirit "What do I do about this?"
The distinct answer was "Enjoy?". True story.
We can take this whole way too seriously. We really are watched over and cared for, and can live just exploring and being alive versus trying to nail down every aspect of our existence.
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05/31/20 (Sun) 04:36:36 No. 134826
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>134825
*fuck you internet *
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05/31/20 (Sun) 07:04:29 No. 134827
>>134808
>more visceral goals
You are just afraid of living the life you want.
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05/31/20 (Sun) 13:32:32 No. 134834
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SAGE! 06/05/20 (Fri) 22:38:56 No. 134941
BECAUSE IM NOT A NIGGER AND I DONT GET FREE HANDOUTS AND WELFARE AND SECTION 8AND FOOD STAMPS AND PUBLIC HOUSING, AND A FREE SCHOLARSHIP, FREE HOUSING, FREE MEALS, MONTHLY STIPENDS, CASH WITHDRAWALS FROM MY FREE STUDENT LOAN, FREE PUBLICITY, FREE FAST FOOD, FREE CARS, CAKE WALK JOBS, ECT ECT ECT
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06/06/20 (Sat) 19:02:44 No. 134950
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06/12/20 (Fri) 11:41:45 No. 135052
>>134708
> Money is NOT what's holding you down. It's your unwillingness to put in effort for what you want.
I have grown up in poverty and thanks to a parent I have huge amount of debt. I struggle to pay rent since I have no home. Tell me again how money is NOT holding me down?
You are the kind of person who would even tell a disabled person to "get up and fucking walk!" Your kind still needs to learn a lot about polarity. So fuck you
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06/12/20 (Fri) 13:33:42 No. 135054
>>134767
>anti drone strike system
>upgrades
If you went with a scalar interferometer like you know you should have , this wouldn never be a problem.
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06/12/20 (Fri) 13:36:55 No. 135055
>>135052
I'll wager most of us grew up in poverty. Your average upper-middle-class chad doesn't have any reason to breach the fabric of reality, or contact the dark gods.
All of us are here because we wanted to achieve more. If you haven't, it's because your magic is shit.
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SAGE! 06/12/20 (Fri) 21:22:41 No. 135059
>>135052
>it makes me mad that you won't acknowledge my victim status
lol, just quit emitting poverty vibrations and emit wealth vibrations instead you stupid mundie.
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06/12/20 (Fri) 23:03:45 No. 135060
>>135052
I was about to get annoyed at that post at first too, but then I read all of it and it's a decent post. >>134708
>>135055
>I'll wager most of us grew up in poverty. Your average upper-middle-class chad doesn't have any reason to breach the fabric of reality
Poverty is a relative thing. Many rich people are poor in spirit, and start doing drugs out of boredom, engaging in degenerate parties and wasting the earth's resources for nothing. They could also follow a spiritual path, some of them do, but it's likely they have the material riches because they chose those over spiritual wealth sometime in the past, and that is what they since have with them. I could theoretically have pursued those things but I had zero motivation to do so. Money is material and I was obsessed with death and the futility of it all from an early age. I do not believe someone is truly blocked from achieving material goals if they really wanted, but it comes at the price of losing your spiritual proficiency. I can see the choices I made looking back and if I had wanted money I could have picked the mind numbing programmer career. But to what end? I would not have made my life or anyone else's life better by making another FPS game. At most I'd inspire some lone shooter and unintentionally support accelerationism. I can do better than that.
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06/12/20 (Fri) 23:52:39 No. 135061
>>135060
>if I had wanted money I could have picked up the programming career
This is pretty much what I was shooting for before I went full-on into magic. I still like coding, but I do it as a hobby, and haven't released anything publicly in years.
Like you said, to what end? I'm not interested in being a code monkey for some enterprise management firm, wasting all my mental and emotional energy in exchange for a mediocre 6-figure salary. I can afford a much better life now, while spending far less than 1% of my time actually earning anything. There's no reason to worry about money when you can dump a few hundred in stocks a day, then just magic those stocks into growing several times. Usually I don't even watch the stocks until a few weeks after, when I've scheduled them to peak.
As far as I'm concerned this is peak /comfy/ for an occultist, I can spend as much time as I want researching forbidden tech, developing spiritually, or just fucking around on 8kun.
I could put in 20% my time, do a Soros, and embrace my inner accelerationist ultra-zionist, but that would be a waste of time.
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06/13/20 (Sat) 14:20:16 No. 135069
>>135060
>>135061
lol do people really think programming is a good way to make money?
t. code monkey
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06/13/20 (Sat) 16:17:46 No. 135071
>>135069
If you do it for a small game producer with large international titles. They actually share the profit from game sales directly with all employees here because socialism. So yeah.
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06/14/20 (Sun) 22:51:25 No. 135086
>>135052
I'll make explicit what you were saying in your post:
>I have grown up in poverty and thanks to a parent I have huge amount of debt
<My circumstances are not under my control therefore not my responsibility
>I struggle to pay rent since I have no home.
<I struggle to pay rent
<I wish I owned a home
(this is a non sequitur)
>Tell me again how money is NOT holding me down?
<If I had money I would control my circumstances
>You are the kind of person who would even tell a disabled person to "get up and fucking walk!". Your kind still needs to learn a lot about polarity.
<You don't understand me because I'm a victim and you are not. I'm special.
>So fuck you
<My being special means I can exercise violence against you and I will in order to protect my victim status and my right to lie to myself so that I don't have to own my life
Every situation can be changed. Every lesson can be learnt and wielded. But in order to have any control over anything you first need to own it. You can blame your parents for your starting conditions (not even that, if you take into account reincarnation, but that's beyond this post), but not what you make of them.
Instead of defending your unsolvable victim status, why don't you tell me how are you planning to realize your dreams? Or are you convinced you will never achieve anything and are ready to blame others for it?
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06/15/20 (Mon) 12:44:38 No. 135094
>>135086
What the fuck kinda self-help bullshit is this lmao. The guy naturally objects to the armchair occultist bullshit cope of money not being important, and you hit them with the wannabe Tony Robbins 'take control of your life bro'.
You LARPers never cease to amaze me.
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06/15/20 (Mon) 20:09:59 No. 135097
>>135094
How's rejecting any sort of responsibility over your life because of muh poor
>rejecting armchair occultist bullshit
Stop larping and get a job, clearly magic is too much for you retards.
The real cope is trying to rationalize away the fact that you've attracted your present circumstances and are 100% responsible for them.
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06/15/20 (Mon) 21:27:01 No. 135099
>>135094
I can't even get triggered. I don't understand half the things you said.
Also, are you samefagging? I think you are. :^)
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06/16/20 (Tue) 02:03:40 No. 135101
>>135094
What's the alternative? Just keep begging until someone takes pity and gives free stuff?
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06/16/20 (Tue) 03:00:20 No. 135103
>>135101
Obviously what we must do is work 70 hours a week in order to pay tribute to the almighty Money egregore in hopes that it may grant us favour. Do not pay attention to the naysayers, Money is omnipotent. All you need to do is sacrifice your life to Money, then you will be happy… someday.
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06/16/20 (Tue) 08:59:03 No. 135105
>>135097
The armchair bullshit occultism is the new age law of attraction shit like:
>you've attracted your present circumstances and are 100% responsible for them.
This is what happens when you read meme shit like the Kybalion. What's next you're gonna start spouting 'all is mind bro'?
>>135099
>I don't understand half the things you said.
I'm sorry you're retarded and don't have a basic grasp on the English language. My condolences.
>Also, are you samefagging? I think you are. :^)
Yes of course I am, it cannot be that more than one person would disagree with a master such as yourself.
>>135101
The alternative to what? The original poster simply lamented that a lack of money is indeed holding them down, and I indirectly reaffirmed his position because I agree. Maybe if people weren't coping into oblivion, trying to justify why they're not rich to keep up the pretence that they're totally powerful wizards we could maybe actually have a thread about financial gain using occult means, and help out people like that instead of defaulting to self-help nonsense.
The problem with this board has always been that everybody likes to LARP as a powerful wizard parroting whatever shit they've read in their regurgitated meme books, while having zero abilities. Then when confronted with this fact (by a thread like this, asking a question like 'why are you not rich) they have to keep the act going and come up with all sorts of excuses. If people actually admitted that they're all a bunch of LARPers, maybe we would actually get somewhere.
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06/16/20 (Tue) 10:21:58 No. 135106
>>135105
The alternative to the proposal you're criticizing. Duh.
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06/16/20 (Tue) 15:01:58 No. 135107
>>135105
>If people actually admitted that they're all a bunch of LARPers, maybe we would actually get somewhere.
Such as building a better LARP? If that was true then this board wouldn't exist and you should all just go play MMOs instead.
No that fact is that jews rule this world for a reason! Our magic is stronger than your LARP BS that is why you can't beat us.
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06/16/20 (Tue) 15:03:42 No. 135108
>>135105
Magic has helped me make money. I've made a few thousand in stocks then decided to switch to spells specifically to help my business, since that would be more conducive to personal growth. It's helped multiple people in this thread as well, if you've actually read the thread.
By the way, have you ever tried merging the conceptual self and the conceptual other through meditation? If you did the idea that mind creates reality would make a lot more sense.
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06/16/20 (Tue) 18:59:18 No. 135112
>>134204
If only you knew… well, soon you will. Announcement today. Not just am I, your rightful Tyrant, taking over, but I'm going to make /fringe/ rich at the same time.
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06/16/20 (Tue) 19:58:31 No. 135115
>>135107
We beat you once already, and it lasts for all eternity.
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06/17/20 (Wed) 14:26:43 No. 135142
>>135105
The point people have been trying to make here is that they don't care about being rich, but then folks like you (and that other guy if you're not samefagging) respond with "HAHAHAHA COPE HOW COULD SOMEONE POSSIBLY NOT OBSESS OVER MONEY". You can't seem to fathom that for some people it isn't a concern. There are more important things to life, folks like you just haven't realized it. And like others have said, you have no alternative to the advice that was given. It is literally as simple as taking action to take control of your life. There's nothing else to it. You might be looking for some special trick to escape like there's some sort of secret formula, but in reality it actually is that simple, you're just to lazy to accept it. Those self-help guys aren't full of shit, as you seem to think. The alternative is lamenting your situation and crying about how "woe is me" and "I am powerless" like you have done ITT. It's such a defeatist and lazy cop out, and only makes your victim mentality worse. If you're gonna complain, at least take some effort to actually improve your circumstances. People in this thread are giving advice to help him/you improve your situation, but he'd/you'd rather complain about how the world has wronged you. Regardless of whether that's true or not, the fact of the matter is that you direct your present circumstances, so you decide where you go from there.
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SAGE! 06/17/20 (Wed) 17:30:09 No. 135152
>>134709
You know that 2016 is still new, right?
Also you suck at majiq.
Anyway if you want a simple money spell that will help you find cash, here's all you do. Take all your loose change, find all the pennies that are relatively pure copper (this means old coins, around the 1980s all the major countries stopped using copper and switched to zinc, each country has their own years).
Now you bless 'em, and it isn't really too important how, just some moment of "these pennies are special now" is all it takes, you've pretty much already put the energy in them by taking the effort to sort through them and find the copper ones so this is just the moment of setting the Intent, the energy's already there. The Intent is it's gonna find you money and come back to you as more (copper has been used for money majiq for like 3000 years, idk why it's better for it, it just is).
So now you've got all of these pennies, go around town and scatter them. Put some of them in random places, some of them choose your target, try to remember where you place them all for fun (this isn't part of the spell, it's just a way to pass the time while you do it). There's this whole thing where it works along white magick principles because when people find a penny they think it's a sign of good fortune, so you're spreading good fortune that it may come back to you. Pretty basic stuff along the principles of majiq which if you've studied means you understand how this spell puts theory to practice.
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06/17/20 (Wed) 18:06:22 No. 135155
>>135107
Jew magick is money magick, aka "The Gnomes of Zurich". It's strong because it's mass mind control, no shit. It also only works on the weakminded, I've paid the gas attendant in scrap paper before, I'm not proud of it I'm just saying: It's easy to tell someone something worthless is valuable and get them to believe it, but that's why Christ described the faithful as a flock of sheep and the mighty as their watchful shepherd protecting them. Power abhors incompetence and so one who abuses power is assured of having it stripped from them in time, it's simply the nature of the tool that it rejects impure hands.
The hilarious thing about the term "LARP" btw: It's pretty easy to get occultists to agree that [most/all] video games are rituals embedded unconsciously and being participated in unknowingly, tabletop games were acknowledged as ritualistic in the 80s and 90s, and yet we're just pretending that actual LARPing (going out in the woods and pretending you're a goblin knight) isn't ritualistic considering it's literally the same bullshit as freemason rituals, just pagan.
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06/17/20 (Wed) 20:04:20 No. 135160
>>135105
>you've attracted your present circumstances and are 100% responsible for them.
This is true, but only if you consider the hidden parts of "you" too.
>This is what happens when you read meme shit like the Kybalion. What's next you're gonna start spouting 'all is mind bro'?
The Kybalion is a mediocre book in my opinion (and derivative). But all is mind, bro. That much is 100% true.
>the rest
You're in so much resistance. Just give it a rest.
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06/18/20 (Thu) 19:22:05 No. 135200
>>135160
>all is mind
Dude, what if like, your ball of mind and my ball of mind traveled along a wire to each other and talked like… Kinda like the internet is doing here but what if we did it again without the internet later?
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06/18/20 (Thu) 19:47:00 No. 135201
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06/18/20 (Thu) 20:04:45 No. 135203
>>135200
>Dude, what if like, your ball of mind and my ball of mind traveled along a wire to each other and talked like
Well then, perhaps you could try and figure out, with more intent, what the correct level of intellectual boundary should be
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06/19/20 (Fri) 00:45:20 No. 135211
I am literally giving away magick internet moneys to /fringe/. Learn to use metamask.io so that you can accept this boon and be able to focus on the great work and shitposting.
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08/08/20 (Sat) 10:17:48 No. 136896
Don't learn coding, learn about real estate. Learn about money. We are never taught about money. An asset is something that puts money in your pocket, a liability is something that takes money from your pocket. Most people think houses, cars, savings are assets, in reality they are liabilities, they are assets for the bank, liabilities for the person. Rental properties, subscription services are assets. Get into real estate, get into rental properties. You collect a couple thousand each month for each property (depending on location etc). You don't have to do anything(you got to set it all up and get someone to manage your properties but after that all you do is collect the payments each month), you collect thousands every month. Create a limited liability corporation for a couple of hundred dollars(you can do it on legalzoom iirc). Put the rental properties under your LLC(limited liability corporation) so if you ever get sued, they cant take your assets(the rental properties). Learn more about money. Wealth is a skill. After you amass some assets, create a business, hire a developer you can trust, have em build whatever the fuck you want, pay em industry standard wages (like 100k for a decent dev, 150k for a senior or principal dev), meanwhile you collect millions on the product, use that money to expand or buy more assets(rental properties). Continue. Don't learn coding. Complete waste of time and energy. It requires an insane amount of time and dedication, moreso than the best medical doctors imo, good programmers have to always be learning, programmers have to learn very quickly, even medical doctors are not faced with a constant onslaught of difficult to learn topics nonstop for their entire career, at some point the medical doctor will settle in to their field and no longer need to learn new stuff. Not so for programmers, good programmers have to be always learning, but good programmers get paid shit comparatively to medical doctors. But even medical doctors make chump change compared to business owners. Get into real estate my friend. Become a business owner after acquiring assets in real estate(rental properties).
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08/08/20 (Sat) 11:56:53 No. 136898
>>136896
>dude just buy a couple of properties bro
Yeah nice one, dumbass. Most people don't have a million dollars laying around to make that initial invest, that's the whole problem with becoming rich.
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SAGE! 08/08/20 (Sat) 14:06:46 No. 136902
>>136898
LITERALLY just imagine it. Are we on /fringe/ or where the fuck are we? What the fuck is this mundane bullshit?
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08/08/20 (Sat) 14:29:08 No. 136904
>>136902
Just imagine the mundanes away. The amount of posters who dedicate their time to just being angry over other posters aren't posting anything of quality themselves. Shows their ineptitude. >>136896 is a decent post. I'm personally not going to follow a word of it, outside of not becoming a programmer but that wasn't my intention, ever. But it points to the clear fact of NEET superiority.
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08/08/20 (Sat) 16:33:04 No. 136908
>>134253
>>134202
>>136896
What is the weakest existence, if not being rich? There's nothing worse in the world than being rich. Its like licking dirt of floor and calling yourself all powerful. And you waste esoteric knowledge on it, given to humanity by beings that have no need in gold, instead of cultivating your inner garden for greater good?
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08/09/20 (Sun) 00:35:39 No. 136921
>>136896
Based post. Never understood the obsession with "coding." Spending hours a day typing abstract bullshit on the computer is literal kys-tier.
>>136908
Cringe post. The most spiritually advanced people are all rich.
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08/09/20 (Sun) 16:30:53 No. 136940
>>136908
>I-I'm happy being a futureless slave
>S-Slave are the most spiritual creatures.
Yeh that's why all the occult societies are reserved for peasants and other plebeian…
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09/15/20 (Tue) 11:25:05 No. 137579
>>134202
My dude there's another entire world running above and behind this one. You are here for like 5s in the grand scheme that's why.
Just a theory ofc.
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SAGE! 09/15/20 (Tue) 19:42:31 No. 137587
>>137579
>he thinks he will preserve his individuality and mind after he dies
lol /cringe/
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11/15/20 (Sun) 18:12:25 No. 137952
>>136896
Top quality post, the only thing I don't really agree with is the notion of savings being a "liability". Personally I am saving up to buy a house outright so that I don't risk being in debt with the banks - when I own my first house I will consider taking out a loan to buy a second property to rent out.
The shortsighted borrow money to buy things, the rich and shrewd borrow money to make themselves wealthier.
>>136908
Christcuck cope.
If I was wealthier then I would have the means to spend more time and effort "cultivating my inner garden". Why spend your life slaving away so you have food to eat when you can cultivate assets to generate income for you?
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11/16/20 (Mon) 03:52:10 No. 137956
i dont know whats going on in this thread but it made me laugh. i practice chaos magic. thank you for fueling the fire with your stupidity OP. nothing better than a good laugh.
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SAGE! 11/17/20 (Tue) 09:07:42 No. 137982
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02/12/21 (Fri) 20:09:30 No. 139056
>>134202
I'm a total newfig (literally my first post) but I have accumulated quite a large net worth for someone my age. Whilst it's kind of a chicken and egg situation, I started being financially successful shortly after practicing affirmations and visualisation techniques. Not sure if this is considered magic.
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02/12/21 (Fri) 22:57:24 No. 139057
>>139056
Do you enjoy your job?
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02/12/21 (Fri) 23:17:33 No. 139058
>>139057
My job is pretty easy and pays minimum wage, and I enjoy the company of the people I work with for the most part. They money has come from a string of good investments, something I've only been partaking in for around a year. I think it's worth mentioning that I don't actually live "rich" yet at least. I still take the bus, live with my mom and wear the same four outfits in rotation. The secret is to be happy where you are - then you're never disappointed when you realise that money won't make you happy.
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