/fringe/ - Fringe

>>122610

>Imagination is real

only in dreams kid

>>122611

great now do it when your synced up to the collective unconscious and let me know how that goes

>>123204

>only in dreams

What if I told you that you aren't always awake just because you got out of bed?

Lucidity is a worthy goal.

>>123206

GUYS I HAVE SEEN THE TRUTH. I KNOW CAUSE ALL DO IS CICRLE JERK OVER MY EGO. Smiley you arent eris your not a god and your not jesus. All you do is deflect and steal other peoples idea's.

>>123227

even worse they mock the wizards. Sad thing is though he knows without the money he is worthless. He wouldn't even have friends. I find it sad how humans NEED to give themselves brain damage even in order to get along or experience "love"

>>123208

I'm not smiley. But I am smiling.

>>120925

>every wizard would have a succubus

Anyone wise enough to be deemed a wizard ought to fucking know that they absolutely do not want that.

>>123227

The law of attraction is not adequately defined at all. It has nothing to do with what you want, it is what you BELIEVE. You can say you want and desire "x" and then become frustrated when it doesn't happen "this magic shit is bullshit". But, the problem is not that the magic is bullshit, it is that on a subconscious level you did not believe in the outcome that you desire. Walk into a situation confident and without doubt and you will leave that situation victorious, walk into a situation doubting yourself and your gonna get you're ass kicked. As above, so below. The same themes play out in the meta.

This is one of the biggest obstacles people have to seeing it all.. It's all as simple an idea as it is complex.

>>123333

That's just called confidence. Confidence works. No need to complicate it into some fucking law of attraction.

>THE ANCIENT FORBIDDEN WISDOM OF THE ARCHON'S CREATORS:

If it can be explained with something mundane, don't esoterically game it. Exoterically tame it. Don't hate it for its sameness. Don't fucking mind rape us.

>>123336

That example of confidence is an example of how it works. The same concept applies to the metaphysical. It is simplifying it rather than complicating it.

If you can make yourself believe something beyond the shadow of a doubt then you will see that thing become realized. That is easier said than done with most things, however. The best way to approach it is to start within, believe yourself to be stronger and it will be the case, etc.

**I was not trying to 'esoterically game it'.. The take away that I was going for is that the esoteric gets approached as complex and abstract concepts but they always wind up leading back to something that could have been easily explained in a nursery rhyme.

The law of attraction, for instance. People put so much weight into "you gotta think and concentrate on what you want".. No.. You just need to be confident in yourself, if you can maintain that while also being fully cognizant of how your thoughts and reality relate to the most fundamental beliefs that you subconsciously hold then you will be a master among masters.

>>123337

I don't know why you would tie that into the Law of Attraction though. I know of The Secret and new-age hype of Law of Attraction, and it just seems to me that you're trying to make it "truer", instead of just tossing out the new-age hype all-together.

It's a terrestrial issue. We should be discerning what is a terrestrial issue and what is "metaphysical", as in, beyond what the common sense can inform us rather than being separate and beyond physics. If it's terrestrial, keep the "metaphysical" out of it entirely. If it's metaphysical or rather, some truly hidden shit… 95% of it is terrestrial.

Instead of "Law of Attraction" I would say, "What's your fucking goal because I ain't got a magic fucking law for you. Go look up virtues of character like tenacity or some shit." Character might be pretty good actually…

As for your last paragraph… nah. Beliefs aren't magic. You're hyping beliefs as some big shit but that just builds a bias that confirms itself when you start calling all the shit you ever think, feel, intuit or observe as part of some belief. Why call it a belief in the first place? The criteria is vague, and its definition hasn't been critically analyzed or structured.

If you start calling this and that a belief, then all of a sudden people go "Oh shit jsut ching beleevs! Minder over matt!". People start getting uppity when you give them a reality check because they don't realize it's fucking reality, instead of a belief. People stop examining a phenomena and take a detour down, "But what if it isn't like it be but it do cause I belieb or dunt?". It's just an uncritical theory of nonsense.

When we talk about fundamental beliefs, we should be talking about fundamental reality instead. Beliefs ain't shit. They're weak pussies amongst the reality dicks. They get fucked and like it. Sometimes it's rape, but the pussy don't know betta (much more women than expected orgasm from rape; I think it was a majority, in fact). At least when we talk about perception and the senses, we KNOW that those things are meant to get fucked by stimuli until they cummunicate to your brain.

>AT LEAST WITH PERCEPTION, WE FUCKING KNOW THAT OUR SENSES ARE MEANT TO BE BUKKAKED UNTIL THEY CUMMUNICATE WITH YOUR FUCKING BRAIN

<BUT BELIEBERS ARE FUCKING QUEERS WHO CAN ONLY BE RAPED BUT THEY STILL CUMMUNICATE, JUST LIKE REAL LIFE BRO, JUST LIKE WITH REAL RAPE VICTIMS, THEIR VAGINAS DON'T KNOW BETTER

So when we talk about mastery or philosophy, throwing in assumptions such as "abuv belo bro" isn't a good start. Axioms by some random fuck… without any rigorous proofing. The fuck /fringe/. No great rhetoric even… nothing. Just self-aggrandizement. "I'M A FUCKING MASTER OF MASTERS, REINCARNATION OF THOTH OR SOME SHIT BRO."

He conned the fuck out of you. He had CONFIDENCE MUAHAHAHAHA AHAHAHAHA !!!!!!

>>123340

>trying to make it truer

No Im trying to explain the phenomenon that anons seem to keep confusing with that "new-age the secret law of attraction". I would argue that the law of attraction itself is entirely misidentified and serves as a red herring.

>>123349

>You can say you want and desire "x" and then become frustrated when it doesn't happen "this magic shit is bullshit". But, the problem is not that the magic is bullshit, it is that on a subconscious level you did not believe in the outcome that you desire.

>If you can make yourself believe something beyond the shadow of a doubt then you will see that thing become realized.

<If you can make yourself believe

I'm specifically saying that this isn't true. No matter how much you believe, you will not fly. It's not a matter of belief. Even if it is completely possible for humans to fly, it's not because they believed enough.

>>123351

I'm specifically saying that you are wrong. If you can make yourself believe something then it will be so. If you could make yourself believe that you could fly then you would be able to fly. But you are not going to figure out how to make yourself believe that you can fly. In order for something to be truly believed there must be no doubt about it. If you doubt something even a little then you do not believe it. You can not make yourself believe that you can fly because the only way to do so would be to confidently stride right off a cliff, resulting in your death because you will doubt it.

But, like I said, you stupid nigger, if you focus on smaller things within such as "I grow stronger and healthier" then you will start to figure out how it works. But, of course I know that you will not because you are a stupid fucking nigger.

>>123333

Quads of High Truth.

>>123351

>No matter how much you believe, you will not fly.

Spoken like a true non-believer. Your limitations are your own.

>>123352

>if you focus on smaller things within such as "I grow stronger and healthier" then you will start to figure out how it works.

'Figuring it out' is how it's fucking done, braincel. Not BELIEVE IT, I'M GOING TO BE THE NEXT HOKAGE ~!!!

Fuck your faith cuck shit.

>>123357

<Spoken like a true non-believer. Your limitations are your own.

Spoken like someone with 0 fucking reading comprehension. Go contract Ebola or something you fucking sub-human IQ sea urchin.

>Even if it is completely possible for humans to fly, it's not because they believed enough.

>Even if it is completely possible for humans to fly, it's not because they believed enough.

>Even if it is completely possible for humans to fly, it's not because they believed enough.

It's a matter of will moreso than faith. WILL. THAT FUCKING CONCEPT THAT DIRECTLY RELATES TO GETTING SHIT DONE THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T THINK YOU COULD IN FACT DO.

Making it about fucking faith/belief… when there is already a good concept for this… I do not understand how people can be so dense and wrapped in fantasy, or why they want to complicate shit into the most easily psy-op'd and suggestible, most easily compromised fucking state.

WILL POWER YOU FUCKING NICARAGUANS

STRENGTH

ENDURANCE

CREATIVITY

INTELLIGENCE

DILIGENCE

CONCENTRATION

DETERMINATION

STRATEGY

BUT NOT FUCKING FAITH

Let's say I want a dude from some bum fuck nowhere country to work for me in the states. I can either pay for his shit, get the paperwork done… OR, I can tell my friend, who is the deciding vote on if we flood our country with their rapefugees, to vote for the flood because I fucking hate paperwork and his travel will be subsidized or entirely payed for.

What do I do?

TELL THAT FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT FRIEND TO VOTE NO BECAUSE I'M NOT GOING TO FLOOD A SOVEREIGN FUCKING LAND WITH A BUNCH OF MUD SLIME IMMORAL FUCKS FOR A MORE CONVENIENT FUCKING HIRING PROCESS.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO ACCEPT THE SHITHOLE PACKAGED CONCEPT OF FAITH "JUST BIEBER BRO, BABY BABY OH~ LET THESE SHITSKINS IN YOUR HOME~" AND ERODE AT EVERY MENTAL FUCKING FACULTY IN EXISTENCE FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR FANTASTICAL DELUSIONS. AS IF DIALOGUE, OBSERVATION, DEBATE, REASON, LANGUAGE, LOGIC AND DIALECT WERE ALL FUCKING USELESS FOR ACHIEVING SHIT BUT SOME PURITY FAITH SPIRAL SHIT IS PERFECT 100% GOD-SENT, THE DEVIL HATES HIM, WOMEN LOVE IT, GROW 3 INCHES IN 30 DAYS FUCKING MIRACLE JUICE.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>123361

I find it hilarious how you turn agreement into arguments.

>>123362

>>123364

Stay mad. I mean that sincerely.

>>123361

>I'm going to be the next hokage

Stating that you believe something and actually believing it are two entirely different things.

>>123364

Will power is nothing if you have no faith in yourself. Like that other anon said, stay fucking mad.

>>123364

Ya know whats really fucking stupid. You are not wrong about what you are saying, all of those things are extremely important and its all so simple that there shouldnt even be a discussion needed.. Stepping forward with willpower, strength, endurance, diligence and all that has an effect that echoes through the aether.

But, and heres the stupid part, you assume that you have figured it all out and yet are so quick to anger and taking an adversarial stance that it limits you from understanding what other anons are saying and conflate the concepts they are putting forth (belief/faith) as meaning the mundane definitions of "I think this way so that is therefor what I belief" and "faith is blind". What you believe is what you belief, what your brains wiring has adapted to define as unquestionably true. And what you think is what you think. The two do not necessarily always overlap. If they did those who walk the left hand path would be much more dangerous than they really are.

Some of the most insulting words invented by man are "You are not technically wrong".

Good post.

>>123293

I know right? In stead of doing my daily quota of shits posts to get paid. I just played video games all weekend felt amazing.

>>123415

>>123416

1. How could you possible will something to happen and not at the same time seek to remove all obstacles to its result.

2a. Believing if a result is possible or not is not the same thing as what people are saying here – this is obviously connected to occult and esoteric activity, and thus is a packaged concept.

2b. If we remove the packaging, belief that an outcome is possible is basically simple and requires 0 'figuring out'. You don't need to figure out suspension of disbelief, you just suspend disbelief.

2c. The faith being spoken of here is Christ-like 'a grain of faith will move mountains' faith, which is actually the radioactive supertech Hulk version of a regular non-/fringe/ faith or more appropriately, belief.

3. If I believe that it's possible for humans to learn how to fly, humanity or myself does not magically start flying. You would try and convince me that I do not in fact believe, yet I do. Forces could be cleverly manipulated, training could be done, and humans could in fact fly by their own bio(?)-power.

4. Eat shit.

5. Meditation and diligent practice doesn't require a mind-fuck esoteric supertech hulkmania glow-in-the-dark fucking faith dialectic of the Gods to be effective. If you want to bend spoons then meditate, and practice diligently. A suspension of disbelief is all you need, and you get that straight from meditation, not faith. Prayer-alikes faithy esoteric hermagic jizz =/= meditation.

>>123433

Fuck numbers I don't care about writing these abc shits out right.

>>123409

>>123409

IDs need to be enabled or some shit.

>>123410

There was no agreement. Drill a few holes in your head to let the sunshine in biddy bitty b-boi.

Err, for 5. you can get suspension of disbelief from esoteric faith, but meditation will get what you're trying to accomplish done without doing many other things that will in fact fuck your mind and disconnect you from your mental faculties like a lobotomy.

Meditation = Smart and Effective

/fringe/ faith = Radioactive Cancer

>>123330

I had a dream about a girl who pulled me away from the computer because she wanted all my attention on her. Dont confuse dream girls with real ones.

Once you get past the symbology it's nice.

>>123433

>1. How could you possible will something to happen and not at the same time seek to remove all obstacles to its result.

Never said that. Doubt is the most fundamental obstacle that there is.

>2a/b

"Suspension of disbelief" is not as simple as declaring that you do not disbelieve something. What you are saying though, in this context, is synonymous with what I have said. Anons seem to get triggered at the words faith/belief as if the speaker of those words must be implying that said faith/belief must be blind and rooted in cringy mundanity. What I am saying is that one can declare, and be honest about it, that they belief something to entirely possible, but if the have not tamed, and adjusted the frequency of, the back of their mind, their subconscious, then they will most likely find that the results of their efforts will vary to the point of compounding the already existing subconscious doubt.

>3

If you believe it then you would have no problem stepping off a cliff, because you fully believe that you could fly. But, you wouldn't do that do you? Because you do not believe it. Something of this magnitude will prove extremely difficult to actually believe because at the most fundamental levels we "know" it to not be the case. Also, this all requires acknowledgement that you are not the only one here. Reality is in your head, but it is also in my head and everyone else's. Our realities interact with each other, we are each our own magnets with our own magnetic fields and we affect each other. It is he who is able to recognize the power of the pull of others, even the mundane, who is able to really manifest greatness.

>4

Why are you so adversarial? Not very enlightened of you.

>5

>I have no idea what I am talking about so I am going to just fucking strawman like this is 4/pol/

You are so close to being correct but then you take a sharp turn into retardville

>>123438

A succubus is not a "dream girl". Not at all.

>>123441

It's like you don't understand what I'm saying and just purposefully lack comprehension.

>Doubt is the most fundamental obstacle there is

NOPE

AND IF YOU WANT A REPLACEMENT FOR WHAT THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL OBSTACLE THERE IS, YOU AREN'T GETTING IT, BECAUSE IT TAKES 1 FUCKING MICRODROP OF EFFORT TO MAKE SOME SHIT UP, AND 1 MEGAFUCKLOAD OF EFFORT TO FIGURE THAT SHIT OUT FOR REAL.

>"Suspension of disbelief" is not as simple as declaring that you do not disbelieve something.

It basically fucking is, unless you're purposefully lying or hiding some shit. If you're just thinking to yourself, then deciding that something is in the realm of possibility is pretty fucking easy if it isn't "If I step off a cliff I'll fly!" because people instinctively don't want to be mentally ill suicidal dumb fucks. Basic fucking mundane explanation because that IS the explanation, THE REALITY OF IT.

>What you are saying though, in this context, is synonymous with what I have said.

GET OUT OF YOUR SELF-ABSORBED DELUSIONAL BULLSHIT AND DEVELOP A FUCKING IOTA OF INTELLIGENCE YOU FUCKING RETARD. WE DO NOT AGREE. WE ARE IN OPPOSITION. YOU ARE SOME SORT OF EXISTENTIAL SOPHIST TO THE UMPTEENTH DEGREE AND ARE MENTALLY ILL.

>Anons seem to get triggered at the words faith/belief as if the speaker of those words must be implying that said faith/belief must be blind

YOU ARE.

>and rooted in cringy mundanity.

???????????????

>If you believe it then you would have no problem stepping off a cliff, because you fully believe that you could fly. But, you wouldn't do that do you? Because you do not believe it.

AAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHH YOUR FUCKING READING COMPREHENSION IS LOBOTOMIZING ME AAGGAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH

THE POSSIBILITY OF TRAINING ONESELF TO FLY IS NOT THE POSSIBILITY TO FLY RIGHT THIS FUCKING MOMENT AT THE RISK OF DEATH JUST FUCKING BECAUSE "I WANNA BE A HARDCORE NINJA JESUS WIZARD BUKKAKE AND FLY LIKE BIRDO" YOU FUCKING DUMB FUCK

>Reality is in your head, but it is also in my head and everyone else's.

<IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT IN FUCKING YOURS

ALL IS NOT FUCKING MIND. THE BODY PRODUCES THE MIND. THE LIMITS OF THE BODY ARE THE LIMITS OF THE MIND. YOUR GENETIC LOT WILL BE REMOVED FOR BEING TOO UNFIT TO GRASP REALITY AND FALLING INTO MENTAL ILLNESS; IT WILL NOT BE I BUT THE NATURAL CONSEQUENCE OF BEING UNFIT THAT YOU WILL NOT PASS ON YOUR GENES; OR IF YOU MANAGE TO PRODUCE CHILDREN, YOUR OFFSPRING WILL FAIL AND DIE FOR BEING JUST AS UNFIT AS YOU ARE.

YOUR DEFINITION OF ENLIGHTENMENT IS PURE FUCKING IGNORANCE AND WEAKNESS

>>123442

Well shes not perfect but in general she can be very nice. "soul mate" was a spell that made things complicated.

>>122509

let me rephrase that they adore the same spirit. What shell you pic doesn't matter here's a hint vanilla goddess The more people masturbate to it the better. Keep in mind "fetishes" take a different meaning subconsciously.

>>123442

The fact you subconsciously think there's a catch means you shouldn't have gotten in magic in the first place.

>>123058

"Christians are really quite hateful, aren't they?"

They are but there no different than every other Abrahamic religion.. The problem is that they feel the need to interfere with everyone else life in order to feel better about themselves. Ever wonder why Americas a hell hole? Well look no further than the oppressive d bag who is constantly telling you how to live your life. Luckly for us they cant get into magic because you have to renounce god in order for it to actually work.

Why is that? Because they believe in gods plan but do there best to infringe on peoples free will. Problem being there idea of a perfect "World" or "Nation" is delusional at best. I mean all you have to do is look at Kenneths check list and you basically get it >>>122408

>>123687

>Uses science he doesn't understand

>Never been to college

>Never seen blacks, gays, etc except in TV

>Thinking he knows how the world operates and what the matrix is

KEK

>>123352

>You can fly guy I know because I done it before. Either film yourself jumping off a cliff and flying or shut up.

>>123357

Fear is the biggest inhibitor go ahead fly for everyone.

alright guys let me tell you about the cult of kek. your gonna oppose over a certain number usually trips and probably get into magic. problem being wizards are born into something called a negative feed back loop once your in a rut it hard to get out. Then I remember a book i read saying if you have bad luck then there's also no reason for you to have good luck and there I had it. Magic at it's most basic everything else would come with time.

I finally realized what it is I have to do and I hate it. It basically just imprinting on something. I given up on trying to define it and explain what it is. All I know is that there what I need and what I want. Some times they correlate.

>>123464

literally got interpreted as "someone exactly like me" Which is stupid because thats not the point in life. To find someone exactly like you would be counter productive.

>>123364

Faith in material things is foolish, idiot.

>>123689

Thank you for your words of affirmation. I look forward to seeing you seeing me cruising at Mach 30 soon.

Theres a god that grants stupid wishes and it's not who you think it is.

She was actually good at what she does just remember keep it simple for best results. Her ideal form was very far from what she actually was and I helped her achieve it so it was a type of ego death. In order for the ritual to work I had to go through my own ego death. It was honestly embarrassing and I rather not go into details. But it was strange I didnt realize how much her thoughts affected me and vise versa. It's amazing how much a single thought can change you perspective of self when it comes from some one you care about. thoughts by them self dont create reality but beliefs emotional resonance and the intent can drastically "alter" somethings. The key is make it something you both want.

I looked for the oldest thread in the catalog in order to bump it and ask what the fuck happened to this board, but it turns out it was shit all along.

>>137971

The oldest threads are not in the catalog because the past BO's GF purged the board in 2016.

>>137976

Strangely, I don't remember that despite being here since a year or two before. Why did she do it?