No.19114 [Last50 Posts]
Welcome to the Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!
/sthg/ #34 - Mystic Mog Edition
>Sonic News<
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games: Tokyo 2020 is out now on Nintendo Switch!
Sonic The Hedgehog: The Movie set to release on February 14
IDW Sonic Issue #25 delayed to February 5th
Early screenings for the movie to begin on February 8th:
https://advancescreenings.com/movie/sonic_the_hedgehog
Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Special Remix - Under Ground Zone By Tee Lopes and Jun Senoue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DLJnh84c3U
Chao In Space Animation Released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69zTLvF8ajc
Sonic X Season 3 to finally air in Japan:
http://www.tssznews.com/2019/11/13/sonic-xs-metarex-saga-to-finally-air-in-japan/
Sega Animation director hints at more game tie-in shorts
https://twitter.com/TailsChannel/status/1187131938936623106?s=20
New IDW Sonic mini-series confirmed after Tangle & Whisper is finished.
http://www.tssznews.com/2019/10/04/idw-publishing-20-years-and-beyond-panel-news/
IDW Sonic Annual 2020 Covers revealed
https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/JAN200720
New Sonic Movie trailer, intl. version including more footage
https://youtu.be/szby7ZHLnkA
https://youtu.be/HndtTDvr-iE
>General Interest Links<
General link compilation
https://pastebin.com/iu99Tb2s
/sthg/ booru
http://sthg.booru.org
/sthg/ cytube
https://cytu.be/r/sthg
IDW Comics
https://mega.nz/#F!65oBCaoQ!8lkn8JebzaZensDJbLxDeg
Previous Zone: >>18561
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No.19116
How do you feel about aliens in Sonic games? I never could like them outside of CD’s (and by extension Mania’s) brief appearance of UFOs in the Special Stages. Especially now with the “two worlds” thing adding more confusion. Like Zero Gravity’s story rubbed me the wrong way with the Ancient Babylonians apparently not just being anthro bird descendants of genies but how those “genies” were stranded ETs which just piled on more outlandish stuff. Or maybe that was a clue all along that the two worlds mandate was in effect even back then or perhaps just a retcon since technically the main cast are considered aliens already on Earth. Felt like it was something that the series didn’t need.
I instinctively recoiled when the Black Arms, Seedrians, and Wisps were introduced, but that’s just me.
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No.19117
>>19116
As a concept it's not a problem, but how they were used in the games is very hit and miss. Cosmo I like, Wisps outside of gameplay I like, and the Two Worlds thing is rather pointless, but wouldn't be a problem if made obvious since 90s era Sonic.
The worse use of them is just like the worse use of humans: too dark/realistic next to Sonic. Black Arms, namely Black Doom is something I think is really out of place. Also Shadow being part alien because of that is convoluted since he's already alien to human DNA basically.
Also the Zeti, the opposite extreme to Black Doom. Concept is ok, execution is bad, only Zazz and Zavok should have existed at most with better writing for Zavok, but worse offense is designs as well.
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No.19118
https://twitter.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/1219155889757675521
>"SONIC2020" project started! A project to deliver various new information and plans about Sonic on the 20th of every month during 2020. Watch out for the "Sonic the Hedgehog" to gain momentum ahead of its 30th anniversary in 2021! This time we have 21 kinds of wallpaper data and Twitter icons!
Year of the 20s for Sonic it seems.
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No.19119
Is the board index broken for anyone else? I can't see the last few posts or even this thread in it.
>>19114
Can someone explain what's going on in that pic?
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No.19120
>>19118
Always good to get more Sonic stuff to keep the word going, I'm happy to see the Modern side slowly awakening. I wonder what else they have planned for the rest of the year other than art, maybe something with Ohtani? JP social team has done stuff with him before. Can't wait to 2021 but I really hope they don't fuck it up…
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No.19121
>>19119
>Is the board index broken for anyone else?
Yes, same here. I've been having this issue since yesterday.
>Spoiler
[spoiler]"For a deceased wizard, a blood ritual simply requires an unwitting follower, some extra sacrifices, a living blood relation, And the backing of a hellhog looking to enter to living world."
https://www.deviantart.com/joeadok/art/Mystic-Mobius-2-Of-Summoning-Scircles-820933107[/spoiler]
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No.19122
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No.19123
Just found out this place came back, it feels great to be back.
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No.19124
>>19123
Welcome back! You picked a pretty bad moment to come back though, site has been misbehaving since yesterday. Make sure you bookmark the bunker's address just in case. I'm happy more people are finding their way back.
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No.19125
>>19124
I did notice the place is quite slow to load up, but all the same it's great to be here again.
Maybe with the upcoming Sonic news this place will start picking up!
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No.19126
>>19125
That would be sweet. We gained some speed last week but we got slower again over the weekend.
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No.19127
>>19118
Not sure if it really counts as a bold prediction but, don't be surprised if we get the announcement of a new game this year.
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No.19128
>>19127
I keep seeing people saying this and it's so tempting to get hopeful and believe but I need to resist.
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No.19129
>>19128
IIRC, the speculation came from a few Iizuka quotes around 2019 about how they've already started development on the next title & that "2021 is gonna be a big year for Sonic."
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No.19130
Just FYI, the site is being particularly annoying and sometimes it believes the thread was deleted when the auto-update kicks in and when that happens it will not continue updating it, so don't depend on the auto-update for now.
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No.19131
I wish Sonic would have stopped Eggman from firing the Eclipse Cannon at the moon so that we didn't have to go through this disruption. Dumb hedgehog.
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No.19132
I'm not gonna lie, I love stuff like this.
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No.19133
>>19118
Hey, the Silver wallpaper came out! It was really cute after all! There was also this other wallpaper uploaded to the usual Sonic Channel page.
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No.19134
>>19132
God dammit it's so frustrating when you put them side by side.
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No.19135
>>19132
As much as all the references is making some people from 4/sthg and other half chan places that talked about the references in past movie/comic related updates, Paramount knows how to advertise their product better than SEGA does. Maybe 2021 will change that.
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No.19136
>>19135
I meant to word that as "they get upset about the references"
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No.19137
>>19135
Do they really? I don't think the references are so out of the ordinary, the only thing that looks extraordinary is the amount of irl advertising they got, but it might not be so out of the ordinary either if you take into account the difference in overall budget.
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No.19138
>>19136
Why are they upset? I'd have thought they'd be all over this shit more than Bump would be over anon's lap.
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No.19139
>>19138
> than Bump would be over anon's lap.
Lol
>>19137
I believe it's because Sonic has been reduced to "member the good old days?" and as for IDW Ian was using old game quotes and past moments/locations to use as story narration and it got on people's nerves. Imo, as much as I am getting tired of the classic era shilling despite me being a classic era fan, it's moreso that SEGA hasn't done new stuff for Sonic lately so I guess that's why, but I myself don't dislike the references, just from SEGA though I can understand. Paramount doing that is ok because I'm sure most of them came from Tyson Hesse's input when we worked with them for the redesign.
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No.19140
>>19117
I grew to like the Wisps myself after the initial Colors presentation (I thought the game was going to be a much weirder non boost spin-off at first glance) and would have liked to see them return in a Colors 2 after Gens but much later down the road. They reappeared in Lost World with the explanation is that some of them "stayed behind because they liked Earth" despite the planets teleporting away in the end and then their actual implementation in that one and subsequent reappearances apparently soured their good will with a lot of people. The Zeti themselves got it even worse since they didn't develop any meaningful characteristics besides their main ones and came off as bland but they, particularly Zavok also kept getting pushed by Sonic Team for the sake of having a rogues' gallery.
Both Zeti and the Black Arms also didn't do much in ways of world building. The Deadly Six are hundreds of years old on Lost Hex and Black Doom had visited Earth for at least 2 millenia but we never get any insight as to their origins of their home worlds and why they're evil in the same way that the Knuckles Tribe for instance, had waged war after their chief's mother had died and got the emeralds for the sake of empowering themselves only for it to kill them in the end, resulting in the creation of Angel Island as we know it.
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No.19141
>>19139
>Paramount doing that is ok because I'm sure most of them came from Tyson Hesse's input when we worked with them for the redesign.
Tyson really did them a a big favor. The guy did the closest thing that could be done to save the project other than to start from scratch, nobody was giving the movie the time of day before and now it looks like there are some people excited. He should have asked for at least a million.
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No.19142
>>19138
When isn't /sthg/ upset?
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No.19144
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No.19145
>>19133
I'm really digging this year's style.
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No.19147
>>19116
>Seedrians
Even more cringe than "Mobius."
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No.19148
>>19116
I think the idea of having aliens is fine. I mean, Sonic CD entirely takes place on an alien planet. I think retconning already established characters and concepts to be alien in nature is stupid, but I don't think aliens themselves are unfitting in the Sonic universe. I mean, Mega Man introduce actual aliens as early as Mega Man 3, and it didn't really hurt that series or majorly affect it.
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No.19149
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No.19150
>>19149
Killerman is Killerman.
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No.19151
>>19148
Mega Man 3 only introduced other planets; the enemies were manmade. Actual aliens weren't seen until Super Adventure Rockman. Mega Man V, if you count the unseen aliens that created the Stardroids. And Little Planet only contains the same type of wildlife found on Sonic's world.
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No.19152
>>19147
They're fine terms, even though Seedrians is a (IIRC) fan-made name for Cosmo's race in Sonic X.
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No.19153
>>19152
I kind of wish they would give a name to Sonic's World already. Doesn't have to be Mobius. Did they never name Cosmo's race, either?
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No.19154
Back to your regular shitposting schedule.
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No.19155
>>19153
They can be pretty dumb at times.
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No.19156
>>19151
Shadow Man is an alien robot Wily found and re-purposed.
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No.19159
>>19156
Forgot about Shadow Man.
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No.19161
>>19155
I never got why they did this. Didn't they call her Vanilla in Sonic X, too?
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No.19162
>>19161
She was never not known as Vanilla the Rabbit. Her house is just called The House of Cream's Mom.
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No.19163
https://www.sonicstadium.org/2020/01/the-sonic-movies-japanese-voice-cast-has-been-revealed/
Japanese VAs for the Sonic film announced. Surprisingly enough, no Junichi.
>>19162
Yeah, I figured. Which kinda makes that house name a bit silly, imo.
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No.19164
>>19163
We already knew it wasn't Jun'ichi a while ago.
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No.19166
Should we be working on a Sonic movie bingo?
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No.19168
>>19163
Just found this while searching for bingo pics. Jun'ichi's insight is 20/20.
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No.19169
>>19164
W-we did? Oh.
Now I feel stupid
>>19168
Hah!
BTW, if someone wants to do a movie bingo, I'm down.
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No.19170
We should be working on a SXSW 2020 or #SONIC2020 bingo card.
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No.19171
>>19151
We mega men now. Are they still surviving or they ded?
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No.19172
>>19171
I think they're still alive on Discord, but they're alive nonetheless.
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No.19173
>>19116
I think it's too broad of a concept to love or hate, in the end you can get whatever you want out of it so it's a matter of execution whether you get something that really goes well with Sonic or something that clashes with it. Ultimately I think I'd be of the idea of keeping it limited because if you go too deep you're probably going to have to waste a lot of resources explaining things about the ayyliens and it's going to come out a mess, but on the other hand doing that sounds like it would produce a shallow and dull story.
tl;dr: get good writers
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No.19174
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No.19175
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No.19177
>>19166
Sonic Movie bingo:
>Line by line reference of song / game dialogue
>MOBIUS
>Fortnite reference
>Mario reference
>Political opinion
>Sega/sonic team staff cameo
>Tails / Knuckles reference
>Green Hill Zone Theme
>Absurdly deep reference
>Sequel tease
>Self depricating humor
That's all I can come up with.
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No.19178
>>19175
That looks really good.
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No.19179
>>19166
>>19177
"Gotta go fast" and a Robotnik youtube poop reference.
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No.19180
>>19177
Those are really good
>mean jokes about the fanbase
>conversation downplaying looks
>jokes about some edgy clone of sonic
>LOLRANDUM situations galore
>social media/sonic twitter specific images in the movie
>lore rape
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No.19181
>>19169
A while ago when some trailers dropped people noticed Sonic's voice wasn't his. Later down the line he confirmed it.
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No.19182
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No.19183
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No.19184
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No.19185
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No.19186
>>19170
Have they confirmed a panel for SXSW this year?
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No.19187
>>19186
Not that I'm aware of, but they probably will have one.They gotta reveal their upcoming game one way or another.
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No.19188
>>19187
Way too early for that, don't you think?
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No.19189
>>19188
It's coming out next year, so I would expect at least some kind of teaser for it soon.
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No.19190
>>19189
Yeah, but it's almost two whole years if you consider this one is just starting and the game will likely release late next year.
>>19184
I don't get it.
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No.19191
What if they changed the animal he was based on for a feature in the movie? Surely echidnas are too obscure for kids.
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No.19192
>>19191
That would be both unexcusable and unforgivable.
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No.19193
>>19192
Sounds exactly like something Hollywood would do.
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No.19194
>online claw crane gambling
This is despicable, cheap, and nasty and– oh my god you can get Sonic plushies?
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No.19195
>>19194
Damn SEGA for having such cute Sonic plushes
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No.19196
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No.19197
>>19196
it's hideous. I love it. It almost feels like the 90s again where Sonic was all over the place. I wonder if they planned from the start to have this much marketing or if they only decided to up it to ride the momentum from the redesign
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No.19198
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No.19199
>>19196
Damn it Japan, stop being so fucking cool.
>>19198
Mornin', anon!
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No.19200
>>19140
I think the Wisps would be fine as a one time thing. It'd be like if they brought back Chip.
>>19144
Comfy art
>>19145
I wasn't at first with Tails but Silver came out a lot nicer.
>>19148
I kind of agree. If Sonic likes adventures so much it makes sense at some point they'd run out of locations and go to space. Not that they have to since it's fictional anyways.
>>19195
Sad Adventure Sonic is so cute. I think part of the reason Modern Sonic looks so flat is they are afraid to mess with his eye line. It's always the same shape instead of sharper like Shadow's when mad, or the reverse when sad. I noticed movie Sonic looked like he had more tude and from what I can tell it's because the eye shape is more sharp like Shadow.
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No.19201
>>19200
Facial expressions became almost non existant after 06, with the exceptions of the riders games and unleashed.
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No.19202
>>19200
>>19201
Marza does such a good job. Shame we barely got anything by them this past decade.
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No.19203
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No.19204
>>19203
I'd take a black one if I had any money
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No.19205
>>19184
Heh
>>19202
I remember a rumor that Marza had done some scenes for Forces, but I don't recall them actually doing anything. Really wish we get more from them.
>>19190
It's in reference to the new Uno cards
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No.19206
>>19205
Marza wasn't involved and it shows. Those are some really bland-looking cutscenes.
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No.19207
>>19203
wow that's expensive. I feel like you could easily replicate those designs yourself with cheap vinyl or iron on patches or something and generic coats. I'll never understand why official sonic clothing is so expensive when there's nothing special about it
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No.19208
Sonic Stadium is saying that this here is the Sonic movie theme song and that it leaked early. Don't have a time to listen to it right now but it sounds lackluster as hell to say the least.
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No.19209
>>19208
Not very memorable that's for sure.
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No.19210
>>19189
I would think they'd wait for December.
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No.19211
>>19208
Don't really have any strong feelings on this. Though, I think >>19209 is right that's it's not memorable.
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No.19212
>>19208
Do movies even have good music? It's not the same thing as game music like Mario Galaxy. Most of the time it's meant to be kiddie singalongs or atmospherical schlock.
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No.19213
>>19212
Some movies do, but not this one. A real shame, considering how good Sonic music is and they won't use a single tune from the games for it.
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No.19214
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No.19215
>>19213
They already used GHZ somewhere in there, and this is just one leaked tract, calm down. Judge when we actually get more tracks leaked
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No.19216
>>19214
Old movies
Any modern day examples? So I just don't fall onto "nostalgia" on my mind
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No.19217
>>19216
I don't really watch modern movies.
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No.19218
>>19215
Yeah, not getting my hopes up on this topic.
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No.19219
>>19217
Well, then no wonder the movie music doesn't fit your tastes, now does it? I mean I say this with game Sonic since Colors honestly. Sonic's music since isn't bad, I just prefer 90s era Sonic music the most. If this stuff that is for the movie is what the new generation likes, more power to them.
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No.19220
>>19219
No, one doesn't quite imply the other. This music is just low effort, much like everything else with this movie.
>If this stuff that is for the movie is what the new generation likes, more power to them.
I would have probably been of a similar opinion in the past but with the growth and continuing take over of literal garbage genres across all art forms it comes a point where you just go full fuck them.
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No.19221
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No.19222
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>>19212
>do movies even have good music
Are you kidding me?
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No.19223
I still think using iconic moments in movies is a case of jumping the gun. I'll just wait until everything is shown before making any opinions.
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No.19224
>>19221
Japan is pretty cool though. Now if I could only find the pictures of when they did something like that for Mania… have this instead for now.
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No.19225
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with atmospheric and movie music in general :(
I thought the song was cool first impressions but it seems like people on the chans don’t like it. I’m thinking because they don’t think it’s Sonic though but that’s probably not what it is in reality and what my head keeps saying. I kinda think that a 1:1 rendition or just ripping songs from the games and throwing them into a big movie is preposterous. Especially if that’s all the OST is going to be.
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No.19226
Ayy
Speed me up, ayy, speed me up
Don't turn down the bass, someone tell the DJ, leave me up
They was sleepin' on me, now they see me up, beat me up
Rings on me like LeBron, rings on me like 23
New, 'nother level, nigga speed fast
He was talkin' down I level up on his–
Told lil' baby I might hit her up 'cause she bad
Money hit my phone and now I'm runnin' to the cash, yeah, yeah
Marathon, just like Nipsey the great
Spin dash to the safe
Do the dash like Tay K
And where I'm headed to, it seems too far away
I'm dealing with this pain, I just can't let you come throw it away
>Nipsey is a dead rapper
>Tay K is a criminal who wrote songs while running away from the cops
>This is a song about Sonic The Hedgehog
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No.19227
>>19226
I was definitely unable to understand the lyrics because I thought it was referencing Sonic a lot. I think I was distracted by the instrumental.
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No.19228
>>19226
>mfw it's true
>Tay K was sentenced to 55 years in prison (and is still awaiting for another trial for murder)
I knew it sounded like a nigger song but I wasn't expecting it to actually be this much of one. At some point I pretty much came to the conclusion that they were going to do whatever the hell they wanted and combined with how misguided they were I knew it could have gone anywhere but it's still somehow hard to process what they're doing to Sonic. I just fucking hope to god none of this ends up somehow affecting the main franchise by giving Sonic Team weird ideas.
>>19227
I also didn't pay a lot of attention to the lyrics, they're hard to get and honestly didn't think it was worth the effort. Is it just me or do they say something about Knuckles attacking for [the singer's] finances at 00:22?
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No.19229
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No.19230
>>19228
[Verse 1: Wiz Khalifa]
Left my heart and my soul, you see that I ran
Rings of gold and awards sit on my nightstand
Take my life, I made it so far away (Yeah)
Free my struggles, detach me from this island
Leave my knuckles, attack me for my finance
Where I'm headed to, it seems too far away
https://genius.com/Wiz-khalifa-ty-dolla-sign-lil-yachty-and-sueco-the-child-speed-me-up-lyrics
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No.19231
>>19228
…Ok, outside of the pol language, didn't Sonic have black actors since AoSTH? I think we had Jaleel White as Sonic, Michael Jackson for S3K music, and Hunnid-P for Knuckles between SA1-2. If rap is that bad, it's been that bad before. Granted, I don't expect SoA or SoJ to use it again since SoA fanwanks classic Sonic and SoJ has whatever they been focusing on with Sonic since Colors.
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No.19232
I don't have any problems with the fact that the song is a rap or the artists involved, but I don't really feel it's about sonic. It's just a song about their gangster hood life or something, and besides the use of words like "rings", "speed" and "going fast" and the (arcade-y?) intro I would never have guessed this was Soniic related if you made me listen to it two days ago.
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No.19233
>>19231
Can't really speak for a lot of those references but if a job's well done it's well done. This isn't. I don't think the rap in the adventures can be compared to this thing either.
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No.19234
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No.19235
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No.19236
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No.19237
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No.19238
GUESS WHAT COMIC JUST GOT DELAYED TO FEB 12
https://previewsworld.com/Catalog/NOV190580
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No.19239
>>19238
Son of a bitch, come on.
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No.19240
Imaging care about non fan made content instead of supporting the mainline series. Only idiots support companies.
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No.19241
>>19240
Okay smartass, tell me what fan-made content are you supporting?
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No.19242
>>19241
So far the 2D classic games, 3D boost games, GT, watching if PH won't pull an Utopia, and sticking with all the mods for past games. Works for me.
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No.19243
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No.19244
>>19242
How exactly are you supporting them?
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No.19245
>>19244
By playing them? Also forgot pic related which is so far the best. Also its Kart variant is amazing.
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No.19246
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No.19247
>>19238
Are they really that much of a crappy company? I thought they were decent but delays have been a constant in the two year run and this issue is now weeks behind schedule.
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No.19248
>>19247
IDW seems like it's shit in general. I know for a fact they were making a Star Trek prequel comic to an upcoming show or movie or something, and because of delays the prequel won't be finished by the time the actual thing airs.
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No.19250
>>19237
>Dumb bot!
>not pic related
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No.19251
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No.19252
>>19245
>>19242
Well, aren't you a wise guy? Although I can not say you are completely incorrect.
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No.19253
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No.19254
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No.19255
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No.19256
>>19255
Thanks for the context. Now that I got a more intended view on the song… I don't hate it. I think the first rapper is honestly the best part of it all, but it's honestly just "fun", like, it's like a fun little video that I shouldn't feel like it has to be something that I should expect in like a real Sonic game, you know? I honestly gave me heavy Wreck it Ralph credit vibes because of the sprite animations. And I honestly think they animated it better here then in Wreck it Ralph imo
I hope there's more than just this though. Maybe if they did more of these with other musicals maybe people will calm down about this tiny little thing.
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No.19257
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>>19256
Oh, and another thing I liked, the BG music has a very vaporware sound to it. It really does have this 90s vibe to the whole thing thinking about it, which well, makes sense with the Sonic 1 shilling and all that.
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No.19258
Morning, /fast/! Hope you all have a great day.
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No.19259
>>19258
Morning anon.
>pic
L-lewd
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No.19260
You can get tickets for the Sonic movie now.
https://www.sonicthehedgehogmovie.com/
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No.19261
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No.19262
>>19228
Well I listened closer. Some parts of it is fine, I liked it. Other parts, I think Lil Yatchy(?) was peculiar.
>>19231
Yeah we had black people and black inspirations before. I talked about it around enough but I think rap has a place in Sonic and it doesn’t have to be just all rock/punk. Sonic takes inspiration from a lot of things and frankly he was pop first despite the artwork of him being in a rock band.
Some people even admit that they’re upset because it’s not Crush 40 or even Hunnid-P and even if the latter was even considered, he doesn’t want to do it because he doesn’t want to be just known as the Sonic guy. He went off on people because of it a few years back because no one wants to support him financially and support his non-Sonic music.
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No.19263
>>19257
Yeah totally, I like it too. I think it fits Sonic as well even though some may say it’s too slow or not fast enough.
It’s as fast as Metropolis Zone.
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No.19264
>>19262
>he doesn’t want to do it because he doesn’t want to be just known as the Sonic guy. He went off on people because of it a few years back because no one wants to support him financially and support his non-Sonic music.
Last I remember he was begging Sega to be allowed back in and didn't he even record another Knuckles rap a few years ago after coming out of jail? Did he really do a 180?
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No.19265
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>>19264
I think he's missing the Sonic bux. He still uses knuckles as his avatar on youtube.
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No.19266
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>>19265
And this is from a month ago.
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No.19267
>>19264
Oh, he must have changed his mind again because on his Twitter, he’s retweeting people who mention him and Sonic AND mentions Knuckles on his Twitter bio.
Could’ve sworn he made a big stink about it, I don’t know if he deleted the post though.
Never mind: https://mobile.twitter.com/HunnidP/status/1101920506628980736
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No.19268
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No.19269
>>19267
I have so much problem trying to understand what these people write. I don't think even he knows what he wants.
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No.19272
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Asians doing movie Sonic stuff is kinda neat.
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No.19273
>>19272
That's so fucking cool. Do you have more arts and crafts Sonic videos like it?
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No.19274
>>19248
It's funny how much I remember IDW being lauded prior to and during Archie Sonic's cancellation only for thoughts on the company to have shifted towards negative now that Sonic's there.
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No.19275
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No.19276
>>19269
>I don't think even he knows what he wants.
Money. It's been nearly two decades since SA2, he can't really expect Sonic fans to really give that much of a shit and throw money at him.
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No.19277
>>19274
Sonic can be kind of a black sheep sometimes, lol.
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No.19278
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No.19279
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No.19280
>>19273
Not of Sonic sadly, that one in particular was just in my feed.
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No.19281
>>19272
Damn, that turned out much better than I was expecting. Lot's of detail! The tail switch is genius. What the hell is that pen?
>>19273
A few months ago there was someone else doing something really cool, I think it was small and really detailed Sonic dolls but I don't remember exactly.
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No.19282
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No.19283
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No.19284
>>19278
Don’t be a bully, Sonic
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No.19285
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No.19286
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No.19287
>>19286
fug that wasn't meant to be in spoilers and now I can't delete post. guess the cute deer will have to remain hidden.
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No.19288
Expect another kino low poly update soon brothers.
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No.19289
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No.19290
>>19286
It's kind of amazing just how much art there is of Bump.
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No.19291
These Olympic Sonic statues are AMAZING and I want one really badly.
>tfw never ever
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No.19292
>>19291
There are so many cool Sonic statues hanging around and only god knows where they are left after they feel like not using them anymore.
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No.19293
>>19292
Yeah, there are, but most of them aren't so accurate to Sonic's design like these. There's always a mistake in the proportions that prevents them from being as good as these ones.
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No.19294
>>19290
It is and I love it. The only thing I miss from not going to 4/sthg/ anymore is the Bump art. I hate that my Bump collection has become stagnant.
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No.19295
Man, I'm so thirsty for game news.
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No.19296
Sonic has finally been confirmed a rat!
>>19295
We all are, anon.
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No.19297
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No.19298
>finally read through the last couple threads
I'm glad /fast/ is back. Good to be home, hope you're all doing well frens.
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No.19299
>>19298
Welcome back anon.
>hope you're all doing well
Yeah, happy that people keep finding their way back! Make sure to back up the bunker address in case shit hits the fan again.
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No.19300
Consensus of Speed Me Up
>Wiz is a 8/10
>Yachty is a solid 5/10
>Dolla $ign is a 6/10
>Sueco is trash, 2/10
If Wiz solo'd this entire song with better lyrics I'd legit call it a good song. People should realize Sonic has had many tracks in the 90s that wasn't "video game" music, and this one of them. Fine as a ad in a sense, reminds me of the Super Mario Land rap they did for Daisy that aired on live radio before.
Overall, I do like the instruments itself, it has this very vaperware touched to it that I really like. It sounds like a 90s radio Sonic, Sonic's "Gotta Recuse Daisy" 25 years late.
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No.19301
>>19300
Huh. TIL there was a Mario Land rap number in the 90s. I haven't listened to Speed Me Up yet, but that's mostly due to me being hesitant given that movie rap numbers can either fall in two categories: Surprisingly catchy, or a very lame attempt at trying to appeal to younger audiences. Guess I'll give it a listen tomorrow.
>>19298
Welcome back, anon!
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No.19302
We're just 700 posts away from 20000 total posts. Pretty cool stuff. Wonder what 10000 was
>>10000
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No.19303
>>19302
Kek, SA3 confirmed, there's no other way to explain it.
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No.19304
>>19296
Happy that Sonic's finally acknowledging it. Blue rat.
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No.19305
Do they like eachother romantically?
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No.19306
>>19305
Not if they don't want anon to throw his mom again.
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No.19307
>>19305
Rouge loves Knuckles and you all know it.
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No.19308
>>19305
No one in Sonic has any romantic attraction towards anyone except Amy.
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No.19309
There seems to be so much drama going on with the movie. Do you think the drama is worse than how it was with Boom in 2014? Also holy shit boom is 6 years old where did time go
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No.19310
wait, /fast/ has been back since November? I remember specifically getting lokinet and checking a bunch just for this place, not finding it, and then giving up on 8kun, but now its 2020 and you guys are back?!
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No.19311
>>19310
Yes, we were migrated pretty early actually.
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No.19312
>>19311
I'm just happy it's back
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No.19313
>>18856
>There won't be a Shadow centric story anytime soon since he likely wouldn't be able to do what he'd like to under the guidelines
I realize I'm late to the party but I've spent like 2 hours looking though the Bumblekasts for where he says this and can't find it. Does anyone know?
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No.19314
>>19309
Maybe, but only via burned out Sonic fans of the 90s/2000s. It's been stated on twitter some early access audiences got to see the movie and claim to say it's good. So, here's hoping the rest of the world thinks so. To me, it's not about the longtime fans, it's a product meant for everyone. And honestly, Sonic NEEDS this now more than ever. Constantly pandering to older fans without giving something good for newcomers to enjoy is the thing that separates the good quality of Mario from Sonic.
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No.19315
>>19314
How about we hope the movie is good instead of hoping everyone thinks it's good regardless? I'd rather see the franchise die than become terrible shit that just happens to appeal to the masses. We're lucky the only lasting damage Bayformers did to TF is Bumblebee's perpetual muteness. I don't want to roll those dice with Sonic.
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No.19316
>>19315
I'm sorry but that's just being rediculous. Are we going to cry up a storm at the age of 80 that Sonic in the 90s/2000s/2010 isn't the status quo and should be appealing to you 70+ years past the age range the series is meant for? I'll never get anyone with this mindset. You shouldn't ever think anything you grew up with is going to resonate the same way it did when it first started. I can even think of anything that was a certain way 50+ years ago and still has the same appeal back then by the latest generation.
I at least hope I won't be so jaded to think everything Sonic should be nothing but classic Sonic just because I grew up with Sonic in the 90s.
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No.19317
>>19316
*I can't even think
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No.19318
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
What the heck!? the director sounds like sonic himself, so the movie can't be bad… right?
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No.19319
>>19316
Who said anything like that? You act like the only way anyone could think the movie is bad is because they think it isn't what Sonic should be. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the movie could just suck?
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No.19320
>>19314
>only via burned out Sonic fans of the 90s/2000s
Don't try to pin the blame on people you don't like when the movie doesn't have a single redeemable quality.
>(((early access audiences)))
You can't be serious.
>Sonic NEEDS this now more than ever
What Sonic needs is a good stream of quality products, and instead of that it's getting is something that's barely even Sonic as they took literally everything that was Sonic and replaced it with something else. It's baffling that you'd say this is what the series needs instead of… literally anything else.
>Constantly pandering to older fans without giving something good for newcomers to enjoy is the thing that separates the good quality of Mario from Sonic.
Nostalgia pandering isn't even the biggest problem, if the games would have been a product of careful design people would at least be happy but that's not the case and it's not going to make a difference if you pander to someone else if your games just aren't good. It's not like Sonic has such deep lore that someone new would have trouble understanding anything, anyway.
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No.19321
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No.19322
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No.19323
>>19321
Well that finally worked. I had to rewrite the architecture of this shit 4 times because implementing a simple pattern in Android is bullshit, so much so that I can't guarantee it's going to work in other devices because Google loves to introduce breaking changes in the framework every 1 or 2 years. But one problem at a time. Lots of work still to do as it is.
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No.19324
>>19319
> You act like the only way anyone could think the movie is bad is because they think it isn't what Sonic should be.
Well, that is what I hear a lot on twitter/4chan. Guess I shouldn't have generalized that much.
>>19320
Don't try to pin the blame on people you don't like when the movie doesn't have a single redeemable quality.
This is just subjective though, there's nothing to call it bad until everyone gets to see it.
I mean, I don't know what else to say since you're rather irrational but I'll be fair and state I didn't say I'd like if the movie was liked, all I want is just content for Sonic to not end up like 06 or Boom, absolute failures. I don't care what any of these kids IPs do, whether it be Mario, Crash, Transformers, etc. I just want them to be entertaining, nothing that felt like a waste of time.
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No.19325
>>19323
Oh snap, is that an app for keeping tabs on /fast/?
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No.19326
>>19324
I mean, if the "leaked" script is anything to go by, the Sonic movie seems like it's not gonna be anything worth really throwing up a fit over. By all accounts, it seems to be an average, easily digestible kids movie that has Sonic in it.
Tbh, this film is the most heavily promoted piece of Sonic media in ages so if this leads to people getting into the franchise & discovering stuff like Mania, 2-3K, Adventure, Archie, Unleashed, or whatever, that's perfectly fine. Not like there's much from the movie SEGA can really put in the games, anyways.
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No.19327
>>19323
What exactly am I looking at?
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No.19328
>>19327
It's an app. An app that kills the sloth.
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No.19329
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No.19330
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No.19331
>>19330
Glad to see everyone's favorite six characters are finally getting the spotlight once again.
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No.19332
>>19329
Oh yes, the sloth.
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No.19333
>>19330
Gotta love Jon's linework.
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No.19334
>>19330
I was never a big fan of Gray's artwork but between the fact that I've liked what he's more recently done and that I don't like all that much what others do he's kind of actually become a favorite.
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No.19335
>>19238
Found this from the IDW Sonic FB group, not sure if it's from today or back then. Doesn't really say much anyway.
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No.19336
>>19335
>The holidays
Every single issue has been getting delays. I really hope they get their shit together.
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No.19337
>>19335
The problem seems to be IDW in general, and they are covering for them. Sad but true, it's a really bad business.
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No.19338
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No.19342
>>19337
Is it just an IDW thing or are all comic book publishers retarded?
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No.19345
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No.19346
>>19345
Date of debut looks awkward as hell.
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No.19347
>>19346
Is it that it should be just labeled 'Debut' instead of "Date of Debut", or is it that your country writes the month first rather than the day?
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No.19348
>>19347
It's just that I would expect it to say date of birth, so date of debut looks out of place even though it may be appropriate in this case. Also brings back memories of Sega being awkward about Sonic's age/date of birth.
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No.19349
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No.19350
>>19349
>2020
>Chao still aren't real
I can't go on anymore bros…
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No.19351
>>19350
At least they aren't completely dead anymore either.
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No.19352
post bootleg official art.
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No.19356
>>19352
That last one is pretty rad.
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No.19357
Man, I have to wonder how Sonic Jam for the Game.com doesn't get on more "worst Sonic games" lists.
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No.19358
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>19352
Wait, the first pic isn't official?
>>19357
I think it's mostly due to how obscure it is. Like the Sonic Blast port on those Tiger handheld systems.
Also, TIL there was unused layouts from Episode Shadow
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No.19359
Kinda in a rush so here's another poor quality video update (I promise this isn't because of compression, I fucked up my actual recording settings trying to fix dropped frame issues from another recording)
Since I'm short on time I'm just going to state what has been changed with timestamps.
00:00 - 00:25: Improved Camera (Still a wip)
00:25 - 00:33 Added Crouching (Whoo)
00:33 - 00:52 Added the Spindash
00:52 - 01:04 Improved the Homing Attack (No longer has a chance to miss the target outright)
01:04 - 01:18 Improved collision (Massively better than before but still has some issues)
01:18 - 01:24 Rolling footage (just to show you can roll while moving like the classic games)
01:24 - 01:35 Dynamic Camera Angles added (wip, still have other properties for it planned to implement)
01:35 - 02:13 Improved Physics Handling
02:13 - 03:18 Just showcases some more of the physics
With that said, that's all I'm going to do for now. Don't expect anything for February. I'm going to be planning out all the levels/other miscellaneous things to plan out and work into the gameplay. I'd expect a "closed" alpha release to show off everything then the beta release for SAGE 2020. Wish me luck, and hope you enjoy it when it does come.
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No.19360
>>19359
Looking good! Are you planning on adding a momentum-less bounce after homing attack for better precision?
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No.19361
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No.19362
>>19361
Good morning anon!
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No.19363
>>19357
Easy. No one played it.
>>19359
It's looking really cool, anon!
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No.19364
https://twitter.com/Sergindsegasoni/status/1222542244521172992?s=20
This is how Golden Bay looks like in Speed Battle, really it's just City Escape 2.0
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No.19365
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No.19366
>>19360
> Are you planning on adding a momentum-less bounce after homing attack for better precision?
Honestly… no. I really want to keep the move pool of the game tightly focused. I'm one of the few people that seriously dislike precision in a 3D Sonic game. 3D games in general aren't anywhere as precise as their 2D counterparts, and I feel like the slower you are, the more precise you can make your character. Needless to say, Sonic isn't a slow series. I'd rather design the levels with more space in mind so that, to quote ShayMay here: "It's about when you jump, rather then where you jump." And I think a situation where you pulled off something precise on a whim like say, that monitor bounce at the end of the update video, feels more satisfying because you anticipated it rather then needing to do something like that all the time.
That being said, I do plan to take precision into account in a more controlled form in the game, like obstacle courses and whatnot, but otherwise, you shouldn't have to expect to be precise when just playing through the main camping.
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No.19367
>>19358
Not official but still extremely good! Has a legend at the bottom with the credits.
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No.19368
Seems the board index is not refreshing yet again…
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No.19369
Remember this thing? Aaron was all over this thing, I think it was talked about in one of the SXSW panels? Then nothing but silence.
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No.19370
>>19359
The lo-fi animations are kind of charming.
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No.19371
>>19369
My guess is that it got cancelled quietly.
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No.19372
>>19371
Think Sega told Aaron to stop it?
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No.19373
>>19372
I can't imagine SEGA caring enough about it to cut it, but part of me thinks that Aaron just didn't have enough time to help keep it going
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No.19374
>>19373
what does Aaron even do besides run the Sonic Twitter/Instagram/Facebook?
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No.19375
>>19373
Normally I'd agree but in this case they were kind of involved in it themselves so it's a bit different than a normal fangame. Also I think Aaron was mostly involved with shilling it online so I don't think he could have caused it to get cancelled if he couldn't dedicate any more time to it.
>>19374
He also was doing the streams every other week but I think he doesn't do that anymore either. So what does Aaron do these days?
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No.19376
>>19375
Aaron still runs social media, but I think that's probably it.
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No.19377
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Oh hey, Sonic Super Bowl ad
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No.19378
>>19377
Have you bought tickets /sthg/?
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No.19379
>>19378
I'm going to see it, yes. Tickets aren't available here yet, though.
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No.19381
Holy shit this car looks amazing.
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No.19382
>>19381
Looks cool! I'm assuming that's a Nissan 350z roadster
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No.19383
>>19382
I wouldn't know the first thing about cars other than that you use them to go fast. And that one looks pretty fast.
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No.19386
>>19199
That's South Korea dumbass…
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No.19387
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No.19393
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No.19398
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No.19400
>>19398
Aww, I wanted to see a low poly Jim Carrey.
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No.19401
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Check this out, Sonic Mania for android.
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No.19402
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>19401
Also, it seems like these guys are doing some sort of reimagining in 2D for Sonic Forces.
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No.19404
>>19400
why
>>19401
Huh, I was betting they were shipping something like a commercial version of Mania running on top of Wine or some emulator but it doesn't seem that's what they did. Pretty cool I guess, but it seems like a lot of work just to play a Mania clone on the phone.
>>19402
Kinda neat.
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No.19405
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No.19408
So anons. What are some themes/locations that has and hasn't happened in Sonic games you can think of? I've played Sonic but I haven't played EVERY Sonic game, so I'd like to know what has been done before, and any ideas that hasn't be done before could be fun. Like, was there ever a time they tried castles before? Not a haunted one like in Heroes.
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No.19409
>>19408
There was a few castle themed stages, but the one that comes to mind immediately is Kingdom Valley from Sonic 06
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No.19410
>>19408
06's Kingdom Valley was castle themed, right? Mania's Titanic Monarch too.
I'd love some sort of starting level in which it's nightime, and as the player progresses the sun starts to rise on the horizon until it's around 8-9 am. That's all I know I'd like to see on a stage.
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No.19411
>>19408
Sonic and the black knight had a castle; maybe two.
As a failed attempt, it appears Sonic 2 almost had one.
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No.19412
>>19408
I think Tails' Sky Patrol had a castle or castle-ish stage. I think the best castle stage in Sonic, though, is in Sonic Robo Blast 2.
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No.19413
>>19408
>castles
Dragon Road maybe comes sort of close? Man, coming up with interesting places for Sonic to run in is more difficult than I thought, specially with the condition of them having not been done before.
>>19412
I knew that looked like it came out of Wolfenstein.
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No.19414
>>19408
>Silver Castle (G Sonic/Sonic Blast)
>Cryptic Castle (Shadow the Hedgehog)
>Night Palace (Sonic and the Secret Rings)
>Camelot Castle (Sonic and the Black Knight)
>Sylvania Castle (Sonic 4: Episode II)
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No.19416
>>19412
I just beat most of sky patrol before realizing it would have been easier to just search it up.
Oh well, sky patrol is fun and short anyway.
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No.19417
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No.19418
>>19417
>Lah x Werehog never ever
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No.19419
>>19401
And SEGA won't sue them because…
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No.19420
>>19419
What was the last time Sega pulled a C&D on a Sonic-related fangame?
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No.19421
>>19420
Not Sonic related, but Streets Of Rage related (coming from the fact they were about to release that same game on the same platform a month later)…
I'm honestly pretty shocked they're a little too cool about these things (especially when it comes to Japanese Copyright Policies).
It would make sense if they asked the developers to port it with a royalty tax or something, but they aren't even blinking an eye over it.
If it was any other Japanese Company, they'd have their dicks cut off for "dishonour of values" within a month…
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No.19422
>>19420
This isn't really a "fan game", though, it's parts of an official game being repackaged and freely distributed.
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No.19423
>>19422
Unless they used some Open Source Code to make the original Mania itself, I'm not that hopeful that this port will remain on the internet for that long…
Remember when Nintendo purged that Commodore 64 port of Super Mario?
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No.19424
>>19417
A nice reunion of sorts.
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No.19425
>>19417
I just find it hard to believe they've just started making so much art out of nowhere without any actual purpose. What are the chances any of this might be related to something else happening in 2021?
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No.19426
>>19425
Well, they did make a bunch of Sonic remixes out of nowhere with no actual purpose.
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No.19430
I've been looking forward to this for a while and it's so close now.
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No.19431
Well, this just proves how many Sonic games I just didn't play/forgot which castle levels were used lol
That being said, it's sad the only one I liked was Heroes but I wish it didn't have to be haunted. I guess the only other one is Robo Blast 2.
But thinks for the feedback anyways anons.
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No.19432
>>19431
No problem anon.
Tbh, I've played a lot of Sonic games but I forgot most of these stages
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No.19433
>>19432
I also have a lot of trouble remembering stages from games, even from the great and memorable ones.
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No.19434
>>19425
Marza's been doing these sketches since they first created the twitter account last August. I think it's just to get attention on the account and they keep doing them since it gets a lot of positive reception. I ain't gonna complain, I love seeing the ghosts.
It's also important to note that they do also draw characters from their other projects as well.
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No.19435
The new Sonic game is looking pretty tight guys; a real step up from Sonic Forces! :^)
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No.19436
>>19435
Say what you will but you just know if the next game was like that it'd be eaten up by a chunk of the fanbase
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No.19437
>>19436
Even when I saw this image in the thumbnail I recognized Terry's legs. Is that normal?
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No.19438
>>19437
I don't know. ARE YOU OKAY?!
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No.19439
>>19436
>if the next game was like that it'd be eaten up by a chunk of the fanbase
What game has not been eaten by a chunk of the fanbase? Sonic 4 maybe? Even Boom had its advocates.
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No.19440
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No.19441
>>19426
Yeah, but everything about the remixes is business as usual, Lah has been dead for more than a decade, hasn't been featured by Marza or in any part of the franchise since, and over the course of this time we've gotten dozens of pictures and animations which are even colored. pic related.
>>19434
>I think it's just to get attention on the account
Yeah, I know that's the most likely thing but hey I can still hope there's more to it.
>I ain't gonna complain, I love seeing the ghosts.
This.
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No.19442
>>19440
So I'm guessing this is not based on the movie given the logo?
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No.19443
>>19417
What if it's Aaron that teases you?
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No.19444
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Did you see Knuckles turn 26 today?
>>19437
Define normal
>>19443
I can only imagine how much they regret not going for Marza in doing the Sonic movie instead
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No.19445
>>19444
They actually did go with Marza. Not sure what they're doing exactly but they're working on the movie.
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No.19446
>>19445
For consultation? The studio that redesigned Sonic with Tyson is said to have gone under and I recall it being different when Van Robicheaux was on board. What's their role now?
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No.19447
>>19446
Nobody really knows with certainty. I think they were supposed to be working on the CGI when the movie was Sony Picture's, and people speculated Marza bailed together with Sony when the movie changed hands to Paramount but Marza did acknowledge they were still working on it on their Twitter not so long ago. Probably still working on the CGI given that that's what they do.
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No.19448
I'm gonna do this /sthg/!
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No.19449
>>19448
No! You don't know what Forces you're messing with!
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No.19450
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No.19451
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No.19452
>>19450
Here you go anon. Keep in mind I'm barely downloading it, I haven't tested it yet.
https://pastebin.com/0P04uJha
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No.19453
>>19451
Sorry, I guess I really forced that one.
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No.19454
>>19453
You're doing this on purpose!
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No.19455
>>19454
Well, no one is Sonic Forces is a shit game me to.
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No.19456
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No.19457
>>19456
Ouch, my fucking heart ABT
It's been so long since he last drew them
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No.19458
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No.19459
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No.19460
>>19456
I need more, much more.
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No.19461
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No.19463
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Okay /fast/
Am I an idiot, or is this song almost note for note re-used from Sonic Adventure 2?
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No.19464
>>19463
Definitely an idiot. The song from SA2 it uses is a Radical Highway remix for multiplayer.
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No.19465
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No.19466
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No.19467
>>19466
More animation like this PLEASE
Absolutely adorable.
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No.19468
>>19456
That's some damn good stuff.
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No.19469
>>19466
You know, I'd love to see this idea done more. Sonic playing his own games.
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No.19472
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No.19473
>>19466
>2020
>Still using rigid sidemouth
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No.19474
>>19469
>Sonic playing his own games
This actually makes me think: With all the Sonic party games, why hasn't SEGA done more ads of Sonic & co. playing their games?
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No.19475
>>19474
Because they're retards at advertising their games.
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No.19476
10 more days until the movie premieres.
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No.19477
>>19476
We dodged a bullet. It could've been this franchise's funeral.
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No.19478
>>19477
I think it might be worse now in that sense, people actually take it seriously now and it allowed the damn thing to spread faster than stage 4 cancer.
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No.19479
>>19478
But the thing is that now it's gonna be a harmless substanceless hollywood flick that people will like and forget about in two years. If the abomination was still the protagonist we wouldn't see the end of it.
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No.19480
I just don't care at this point. I'm not allowed to like anything Sonic does anymore if it's not pandering to pre 2006 era so why should I care anymore. I wish I could go online without being tied to Sonic fans anymore. I came here to ignore the drama but it still lingers…
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No.19481
>>19480
What drama? You can talk about whatever you want.
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No.19482
>>19480
What are you even talking about?
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No.19483
>>19480
Don't you mean pre-Colors era…?
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No.19484
>>19476
Are you guys seeing it in theaters? Or will you wait for a decent camrip?
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No.19485
>>19484
Seeing it in theaters. Camrips suck ass and are never worth it.
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No.19486
>>19481
Ok then
I'm not allowed to like the Movie. It's not going to be some masterpiece, I'm not dumb, but I'm not going to call it bad either since I don't see anything obsessive about it.
I'm not allow to have issues with 2000s era Sonic. If I do I'm not a real fan of Sonic.
I'm not allow to care about the genesis games because they are 2D, pixel based, or some other buzzword like "not soulful" or something like that. I'm not allowed to like how the gameplay of the genesis games are amazing for Sonic because 2D bad.
I'm not allowed to like anything from the boost era of Sonic just because it's not like 2000s era Sonic. Yes I don't really care too much about Pontac and Graff's localization, but that's far from my issues from the boost era games. I think boosting has a purpose, I just think it needs to be reevaluated into something better for the series instead of doing what Forces did.
I'm not allowed to have an opinion because the common hugbox makes it were if it's not 2000s Sonic I'm retarded.
This is anywhere I go, Twitter, Youtube, halfchan, etc. Wherever I even think Sonic, I see continuous in fighting over the state of the series.
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No.19487
>>19486
Plenty of people on Twitter and YouTube like the movie, have issues with 2000s-era Sonic, and like the Genesis/Boost games. I can't speak for the accounts you follow, but maybe you should leave 4chan if it's that much of a problem for you.
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No.19488
>>19486
I mean, just speaking on the movie, I think it's gonna be a harmless family movie that won't have much if any negative impact on Sonic. I still see Boost-era games like Generations & Unleashed getting love, people being critical of some of the lesser aspects of 2000s Sonic, etc.
Maybe you just need to change what communities you hang around in?
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No.19489
>>19486
You're allowed to like whatever you want, anon. Many people liking one thing over the other doesn't make it a universal law.
I know there's lots of people who enjoy 06's gameplay for example. I respect their opinion, even if I disagree.
The problem arises when you start thinking in absolutes.
By the way, I don't know where you've been but the movie has way more positivity than negativity thrown thowards it. Same thing when talking about 2D Sonic, and some of the boost games like Gens and Unleashed.
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No.19490
>>19479
The way I see it it's kind of the opposite, with the other design we would probably get a lot of shit at first but then it would just be left behind like, say, Boom. The way it has been marketed after the redesign makes me think we're never going to see the end of it, and I don't think Sega would hesitate for a moment to ditch everything for something that makes them more money than what they have now. But it can go either way I guess.
>>19484
I think I'll wait and see if cytube anon streams it at some point. I think I remember someone mentioning something to that extent. Even if the movie was my wet dream I'd be so conflicted about going out to see a Sonic movie alone.
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No.19491
>>19485
It would be nice if we could see it together in a cytube or something
>>19490
This exactly
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No.19492
>>19487
Really? I wish I seen these. Most of the people that do defend the movie gets called out for it though, if you actively look at the comment section of them. If you didn't actually participate in those discussions you shouldn't just dismiss the points that people, when they are positive about Sonic content, they don't get backlash from it. All we want is just to take in the good when it comes.
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No.19493
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No.19494
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No.19495
>>19490
>it would just be left behind like, say, Boom.
Boom was harmles because even if the game was shit, the animated series was okay. There wasn't anything violently weird or bad about it, and it slowly became the thing to talk about when referring to that spinoff, rather than the game itself.
The movie, on the other hand, as you can see is a much bigger thing. It's a worldwide event and puts Sonic on the spotlight in front of everyone for the first time in a decade or two.
Now imagine that creepy furry thing getting licked in the face by a realistic dog.
I don't know about you, but such a scene would be fucking engraved in my skull for quite some time from the sheer ugliness of it.
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No.19496
…and bookmark https://julay.world/fast/ if you still haven't!
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No.19497
>>19493
That Blaze pic is lovely. Who's the artist?
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No.19498
>>19490
I mean if anything, SEGA will probably just greenlight more Sonic movies to capitalize on its potential success, which is something Paramount has expressed interest in doing already.
Because if I'm being honest, the only things new about the film that makes it stand apart from the rest of the franchise are the designs of Sonic & Robotnik. Everything else is pretty much reusing stuff we've gotten before in some shape or form.
>>19495
Actually, one thing I do find exciting about the movie is the amount of potential Sonic fans it could create. It wouldn't surprise me if SEGA were "drop the ball" as it were, but a lot of people are gonna probably check out the series/take another look at Sonic once this thing rolls out. With SEGA pretty much confirming the Classic/Modern structure of games going forward, it'd be interesting to see what they could pull out
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No.19499
>>19486
You're allowed to like whatever you want but don't forget that as much as you have criticism about certain aspects of the franchise that other people like, others will have criticism about certain aspects of the franchise that you like, and you're inevitably going to have to swallow that even if the dosage varies depending on the places you frequent.
I would never be surprised about people fighting over the franchise given its history but honestly these days I mostly see people just enjoying what they enjoy and not that much drama, but then again the only place that I frequent where deeper discussion could come up is here. Twitter is for cute art and Youtube for kickass music and animations, so overall I'm thinking I cheat the current state of things because when I look at those places, discussion is centered around the good content I'm enjoying instead of controversial things.
>I'm not allow to care about the genesis games
Lol where have you been hanging out? I mean shitting on the Genesis games has always been quite difficult given how easy it is to dismiss it given their reputation, history and accomplishments. Honestly the way I saw it was that Genesisfags were the ones always shitting on everything else given how easy it is to shitpost with those facts backing you up.
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No.19500
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No.19501
>>19498
>the amount of potential Sonic fans it could create
Indeed. Even more so if the next game is good. It could be a Sonic reinassance!
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No.19502
>>19500
Oh, right. Silly me. Thanks either way!
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No.19503
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No.19504
>>19495
The coverage Boom received for being a shitshow was much bigger than the coverage it received for having an okay animated series which now barely anyone talks about. The movie is a much bigger thing now, but I don't think it would have had the same coverage if it was deemed a failure by everyone like it was pre redesign (like it happened with Boom, remember the leaked plans Sega had for that franchise?).
After so much drama regarding the franchise and the characters I think people are slowly getting immunized about it. 06 was a huge stink that still makes waves 14 years later, Boom was a big stink that was mostly forgotten, the movie would have probably been somewhere in the middle but if it bombed hard Sega would have just pretended it never happened like they always do and moved on. Although I guess maybe they could have also somehow rushed into conclusions about Sonic and deemed his situation insurmountable or destined even less resources to the franchise. The only things likely now are that this is probably here to stay, that we're probably never going to get a proper animated Sonic movie by Marza, and that this is probably going to further drive wedges into the fanbase even more.
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No.19505
>>19504
>a proper animated Sonic movie by Marza
Playing devil's advocate, we were probably never getting that. And again, there's not much to the movie that can really drive a wedge in the fandom, outside of where to rank Sonic's movie design. Which thankfully, we haven't really gotten yet.
The movie itself will obviously stick with people who are getting into the series for the first time & this is their first experience, but the only thing I can see causing a schism are the designs. Outside of that, it's just a simple Sonic movie that cribs some of its premise from Sonic X with a dash of Eggman origin story, tbh
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No.19506
>>19484
i'd camrip it myself if i had the confidence and if i were seeing it on release, but since im seeing it with friends we need to plan around who can be there and what theatres are the closest so i can't even use my timezone to my advantage (it's releasing on the 13th here but it'd basically be the 12th for muricans)
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No.19507
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No.19508
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No.19509
>>19508
Goodnight anon.
Man, all these new mascot pics, I can't have enough of them
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No.19510
>>19486
Prevailing Sonic opinions change often enough for me to not pay much attention to them.
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No.19511
hey this is a new place to show off the ol plush pics
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No.19512
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No.19513
>>19511
They're all so cute
>that bump
She's way too cute ;_;
I've wanted to make a Bump plush for the longest time, how I wish I had the time.
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No.19514
>>19511
i realise now i made bump way too small. this is unfortunate
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No.19515
Will registration ever be reopened on the booru? We kind of need it, current boorufags have left or grown lazy.
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No.19516
>>19515
Don't know if the booru owner is still around or if he even migrated here. If it's confirmed dead maybe we could clone it.
>>19514
Can't unsee it now, but she's still so cute.
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No.19517
>>19516
would cloning it make all the old posts disappear
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No.19518
So I've gotten to play Forces thanks to that torrent and…
It's better than Lost World. And this time I waited past the first stage to have this opinion so far. Just to stress, the gameplay isn't that much better than LW, it's about 30% better, but I won't call it until I completely finish it later
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No.19519
>>19517
That wouldn't be the idea, otherwise there would be no difference to creating a new place from scratch.
>>19518
So the torrent works huh. I still haven't given it a try, maybe I'll have some time over the weekend. What do you think of each gameplay style?
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No.19520
>>19511
Someday, I hope an anon makes or commissions someone to make a real life Bump/Sage/Bait plush.
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No.19521
>>19520
Who or where can someone commission that from?
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No.19522
>>19511
>That Sage
I want to fall asleep hugging it.
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No.19523
>>19520
no pls, I would be so jealous I would die.
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No.19524
>>19521
Probably find someone on a site like Etsy or maybe an art website like deviantart who does commissions.
Might be some websites setup specifically for it, but I'm not really sure. I haven't really looked much into it.
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No.19525
>>19519
>What do you think of each gameplay style?
Well I wanted to wait until I finished to truly judge but to cut it short: Classic is trash, Modern and Avatar is better but still worse than Unleashed/Generations. I'll go into deeper detail when I'm done.
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No.19526
>>19518
Oh come on, I don't like LW, but you at least can't beat the first level by pressing one button.
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No.19527
>>19521
It's a matter of finding a plush maker that you like. Ponyfags do it all the time, but ponies are much simpler characters and usually follow a cookie-cutter pattern even more than Sonic characters. Here's someone I had bookmarked, seems pretty talented and with a lot of experience, but the Sonic plush they made isn't very impressive.
https://www.deviantart.com/magnastorm/gallery/12109030/plushies
Like the other anon said, DA and Etsy might be good places to start.
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No.19528
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No.19529
>>19528
Didn't think he was actually going to call her out, but man I've been kind of waiting to see some sort of development or conclusion to her frequent rants about Sega and Aaron… and damn this is happening right now, nice catch. Aaron has always given me some weird vibes to be honest, but I don't have anything concrete to base that feeling off.
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No.19530
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No.19531
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No.19532
>>19526
I mean, yeah, boost to win, but at least Forces isn't filled with half baked gimmicks every stage. I think Sonic's far worse as a series when you slap 5+ different gameplay styles for lolrandom reasons verse one or two styles they are just shallow but functional. The snowball, the flappy bird ripoff, the DKCR silhouette and search light levels are among the worse things in Lost World. Besides the Zeti in general. They actively ruined my experience with LW, gameplay be damned. Forces doesn't have that problem all due respect.
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No.19533
>>19532
But Zavok is in Forces.
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No.19534
I hope this doesn't get anyone fired. Not very professional even if Rafa was using info from halfchan of all places as evidence.
First that incident with the Sonic R musician, now this…
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No.19535
>>19534
>First that incident with the Sonic R musician, now this…
what incident
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No.19536
>>19533
There's 5 other Zeti you're forgetting anon.
And Zavok was like the last boss or something in LW right? I didn't remember him being a big focus in LW over his bros/sister? in that game to noticed.
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No.19537
>>19535
When Tee Lopes made a Sonic R remix and one of the composers on R called him out on that which many fans took as an attack on Tee Lopes, making the composer look bad.
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No.19538
>>19528
>>19530
Rafa's been angry with Aaron and tweeting about it for a good amount of time. Was wondering if it'd ever lead up to anything.
Not really sure who's right in all this, but Rafa probably needs to move on.
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No.19539
>>19537
Oh yeah, I forgot. They even reuploaded the video or edited the description as a consequence if I remember correctly.
>>19538
Rafa needs to model Bump already!
Anyway, she seems to have a lot of trouble landing other gigs, I guess that contributes to her having trouble moving on. There was also that other gig that she got kicked out of because of misgendering someone's OC or something, lol. She doesn't seem to have a lot of luck, at least not after getting the job at Sega.
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No.19540
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No.19541
>>19539
I'm sure her troubles aren't helping her move on, but getting into public spats with your former employer generally is not a good move.
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No.19542
>>19540
I think someone should make a thread for mascotposting, theres so many pictures with these gals, i wanna have them all!
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No.19543
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No.19544
Seems the Mario & Sonic bubble might have burst.
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No.19545
>>19543
Very nice. I see you've improved a bit
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No.19546
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No.19547
>>19544
I'm honestly surprised it lasted this long tbh.
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No.19548
>>19544
About time. They aren’t bad games, but it never seemed like you needed to play more than one of them.
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No.19549
>>19543
That's a really sexy linework. What brush did you use?
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No.19550
>>19543
Even if Forces wasn't great, it was always fun watching people draw their OCs they created with it.
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No.19551
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No.19552
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>19538
>>19539
>>19551
I was prowling around after someone mentioned that she might have been the one behind this employee AMA thread:
http://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/494938805/
Some juicy things about the inner workings of the SoA staff, if true.
Someone even brought up the defunct Sega Forum, of which I used to be a part of
>>19544
>>19547
>>19548
Heard that the 2020 Tokyo Olympics totle was meant to be the last entry in the series, beforehand
>>19537
That's news to me
>>19536
Second to last. The Deadly Six just leave unceremoniously before Eggman shows up with his master plan in that one. And his boss mech is just a repeat of the Egg Nega Wisp, gameplay-wise
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No.19553
>>19552
I read that thread & tbh, I have my doubts about its validity. I could be wrong, but some of it just feels like someone LARPing while "confirming" a lot of what Sonic fans have felt about the series & whatnot.
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No.19554
>>19552
>I was prowling around after someone mentioned that she might have been the one behind this employee AMA thread
Was it me?
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No.19555
>>19552
At it's end the SEGA forums were just full of Chinese bots spamming threads. No one bothered to fix it and just shut it down.
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No.19556
>>19555
Kinda sad. The place was pretty bad but I always liked that everyone stuck together for so long, and then they decided to close it down with barely any notice.
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No.19557
>>19556
Yeah. I wonder who sent those bots to the boards, anyway. Pity that the non Sonic boards had less activity. Which, if the site is to be believed, is also reflected in the followers of the games themselves:
http://gamstat.com/games/
Compare the number of people who played any of the Sonic games to the JSR or NiGHTS, or Toejam & Earl ports.
Been 2 years since they closed it on Hedgehog's Day, coincidentally enough.
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No.19558
>>19552
>That fucking entire video
God, I'm glad I stopped trying before I even got to that point, it's STILL annoys the hell out of me with the dialogue and crap. They said LW was actually written by Pontac and Graff, and I can completely understand why people can't stand them. When they just localize shit it's just taking the better Jap script and making it dumber with stupid lines like "tortured for months", but this ENTIRE GAME is nothing but stupid lines, namely by all the zeti/tails repeating tropes/quips like those are the best lines known to entertainment or something.
I'm not even a deep story fan in Sonic, but LW even drove me off the wall. Mediocre gameplay is one thing, but mediocre gameplay with terrible narration is enough to just make me not continue in a game like that. There was honest to god more enjoyment out of Forces than LW, all because of the lack of LW's crappy jokes and terrible characterization, at least to THAT degree.
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No.19559
>>19546
>>19545
Thanks. I wish I could be better than "a bit" since I've been drawing for so long… What do you think I could do to make it look better?
>>19550
I didn't think I'd feel the same, but I agree.
>>19549
Here's what I use if you're interested. I use SAI.
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No.19560
>>19557
I don't think it was anyone in particular, bots are like flies, they roam about until they find somewhere they can post. I remember they left the door open for a comeback of some kind but they never came through with it. In their shoes I also probably wouldn't have done it since it's a recipe for disaster but they shouldn't have mentioned it.
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No.19561
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>Dat Robotnik
Look at those hips sway…
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No.19562
>>19560
It's pretty hard to justify bring back a forum over an official subreddit or discord these days. Not to say those are better, but they're what's being used by most now plus they're free/cheaper.
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No.19563
>>19559
Thanks for the help!
>>19561
Kek. That Robotnik is creepypasta fuel.
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No.19564
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No.19566
>>19552
>all I know is that Sonic Team were already planning the game around Sonic Forces development.
>Sonic Forces was in development for 4 years but everyone knows it realistically only got 1-1.5 years of dev time
>New Years video: "It started in 2015"
bros. could the next game really have 5-6 years of dev time? Could 3D sonic be on the verge of a new era?
Part of me wants this AMA to be real because it means more Sonic news by the end of the year and Sonic possibly turning around in terms of quality but it also means Aaron is gigantic asshole and Sega in general is being run into the ground
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No.19567
>>19566
I'd take it with a massive grain of salt. If the next Sonic title was in development for 5-6 years, that basically means Forces was a filler title, which I have some doubts about.
Besides, we're supposed to be getting Sonic news at least once a month this year.
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No.19568
>>19567
>that basically means Forces was a filler title
it definitely felt like it was. It felt like a tech demo they slapped together to show off the lighting engine but once they realized they had no other 25th anniversary game besides Mania, they put a tiny bit more content in it to make it into a 'full' game. There was also that rumor that SoJ already had a game in development based on making your own customizable animal character and Sonic Forces was just that game but with Sonic and Classic Sonic slapped on
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No.19569
>>19566
They had 4 years to invest in Forces and didn't, and the result was far from what you would expect in terms of quality for the kind of time they could have dedicated to it. I hate to be a downer but it sounds like a mistake to aim your expectations high no matter how good things are looking.
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No.19570
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No.19571
>>19566
From what I know, the new game has been in development since last year, so I'd say it will have 2-3 years of development.
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No.19572
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No.19573
https://sonicthehedgehogmovie.tumblr.com/
>Hey Tumblr! Ben Schwartz here! I’ll be doing an Answer Time on February 6th at 10:30am ET / 7:30am PT to chat about my new movie, Sonic the Hedgehog. Submit your questions right here and catch Sonic the Hedgehog in theaters on February 14th.
You don't need a Tumblr account and you can ask as many questions as you'd like.
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No.19574
>>19572
Hey don't look at me, I'm bothered by this too.
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No.19575
>>19566
>>19571
>>19572
Well they said they just got started on a new Sonic game last year in an event with Jun Senoue following TSR. So if the non conceptual stage began at or near the tail end of Forces’s development in 2017, it would be another 4 year game assuming it comes out for the 30th anniversary.
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No.19576
>>19575
Here's hoping they spend their time wisely.
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No.19577
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No.19578
>>19576
I forgot to mention in my previous post, the PS5 and Xbox Series X are due by the end of the year. Who knows if we’ll go through the same show again that they did for Forces’s development on 8th gen hardware. What path will they take considering the Switch; will we get an ambitious title that will skip it? An outsourced version ala Unleashed by Dimps? Them still trying for parity as much as they can, or just sticking with the 8th gen consoles for this one? A real wild card would be an updated “Pro” version of the Switch or new Nintendo console altogether-but there are no signs of that happening and imagine Sonic Team must be a little leery on a repeat of Boom’s Wii-U port job.
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No.19580
So I've beaten Forces. It's at most a 6/10 game. I enjoyed it more than Lost World, but it's far worse than Unleashed/Gens as a boost game, the worse classic Sonic game since Genesis (GBA port) and it's what I'd call a "tunnel vision" game. There's so many oversights to what would have normally been spot checked for quality control that it honestly leaves me more baffled then mad. To make it short;
>Modern Sonic's air controls, in 3D, are somehow worse than in 2D. Your momentum carries in 2D almost like in the classic games, EXCEPT when you let go of the stick all together, which you instantly stop on a dime. It's jarring and awkward, but only when you actively let go of the stick
>Classic Sonic's air controls are the exact opposite, you stop on a dime no matter what you do and it feels terrible. I don't understand how both Sonic's can have completely different controls both between dimensions AND between just Modern Sonic himself. the OC has similar controls to Modern Sonic to notice anything different. You also have 8 directional movement, just like Lost World, which is terrible.
>Classic Sonic's physics are, in all do respect, not as bad as people claim, because the surprising thing is, if you rolled like you'd should, you actually gain momentum… too much momentum. The level design just wasn't made like the classics (or at least, not 1 to 1 to it) for such an overpowered speed cap since the physics aren't as air tight as the classics, leaving to weird start and stop moments on some walls, and other times, you just jet down a 90 degree incline for no reason. The physics are likely as bad as people claim because they never roll in these examples I see online that I've noticed for the past 3 years since the game came out. All in all, it's better and worse than Generations (which actively slows you down if you rolled) but obviously, Mania and all the genesis games pail in comparison to both Gens/Forces Classic.
>The OC is the highlight of the game. I really think if they took a page out of AHiT for how this worked the OC could have been the best part of the game tenfold. But as it is, the OC is too restrictive to both how you design your OC (for reasons I heard was to keep them from being "too cool" next to Sonic) and how you can colorize your outfits, my biggest issue with the OC. Otherwise, it's actually fun and cute for the game's benefit.
Overall, all I can say that was good as well was the graphics. The HE2 when you actually see it in game is vastly better than the HE1. I did like the higher contrast of highlights and shadows in Unleashed over Forces, but overall, the biggest issue with Forces isn't the HE2, it's the art design of the entire game. They had it better in Unleashed/Gens and should have stuck with that. Really, Forces as a whole would have been an 8/10 or even 9/10 game if they stuck with Unleashed/Gens as a base to begin with instead of modding Lost World instead.
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No.19581
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No.19582
>>19580
Damn, you already finished it? It barely took you a day. I was just actually installing it, but I think the repack is fucked and it just won't finish installing. Fuck my luck.
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No.19583
>>19582
Did you verify the bin files first before trying to install the game? There was a file in the folder than stated to do that first. A file called QuickSFV was how to let it do that for you.
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No.19584
>>19582
You never played it either? The game is pretty short even for a Sonic game, like Sonic CD levels of short even, provided you avoid the time stones, hologram projectors and badnik generators.
>>19581
Of course. I had finally upgraded my chao to beat the remaining racing and Karate courses this September. If only I hadn’t lost my save data or my original Advance copy, I would have finished it so much sooner.
It’s even more painful to realize that I had played the original Advance so much that I maxed out the ring counter for the store and bought every item from it besides maybe all the egg types
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No.19585
>>19583
No, I hadn't done it because the files were downloaded through a torrent and torrents guarantee integrity by hashing all the pieces in the torrent, so it shouldn't be necessary to externally verify the files. But I just did it anyway and as expected, the hashes are fine. No, I think Wine is acting up and I think I saw something crash. I'll look into it tomorrow.
>>19584
No, it will be my first time through the game too. Damn, I never expect long Sonic games but this sounds ridiculous.
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No.19586
>>19585
Yes, one of the biggest complaints is it’s length and difficulty. The whole game feels as if it’s on Easy Mode despite having only Normal and Hard. (Which only affects the amount of rings that can be spilled and carried when hit along with recording score and ranking)
Unless you go out of way your way to find all the red, number, and silver rings, SOS missions, as well as mess around with the OC customization, it’s not uncommon to beat the main campaign in one day. The last zone with all 3 characters+avatar&Sonic isn’t much bigger than playing through Titanic Monarchic with only one character for reference, if it all.
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No.19587
>>19582
Forces is incredibly short. I cleared it in about 2 and half hours.
Most of the levels are about 1 - 2 minutes long.
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No.19588
>>19586
>Unless you go out of way your way to find all the red, number, and silver rings
Don't forget to mention that the numbers and silver rings get you nothing for bothering to collect them.
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No.19589
>>19588
Save for points on ranking for the silver rings and achievements, both of which are moot, but still.
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No.19591
>>19581
Little blobs of love
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No.19593
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No.19594
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No.19595
>>19594
>>19593
Too many Bumps
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No.19596
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No.19597
>>19466
Apple is really pushing this Arcade thing.
They're just that desperate to get their audience back after even the dumbest of consumers realised that all Apple Products (minus the old iPod) are nothing but "Pay-To-Use Garbage".
Planning on switching to Android as soon as my contract expires in a couple of months. Specifically the Asus ROG Phone II (the only one with a Snapdragon 855+ that has a headjack).
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No.19598
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No.19599
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No.19600
>>19598
Here's an Idea.
Have a contest in SAGE whence whoever makes the best fan-games gets the SEGA Seal of Approval to either license it as official property, or to get hired for the Sonic development team (like what happened to Whitehead).
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No.19601
Sonic Heroes has recently had it's 16th anniversary. From what I've seen, it's one of the games with the most polarizing opinons. Some think it's a joyride, some call it trash.
What do you think about it?
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No.19603
>>19600
It's not like every year there's a fangame that makes me think "IT HAS TO BE AN OFFICIAL GAME", but I do agree in the fact that it should have some sort of endorsment from Sonic Team, or something.
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No.19604
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No.19605
>>19601
Fairly underrated…
It just so happened to be made when SEGA was beginning to build it's Growing Irrationality.
Thus it suffered from sequel syndrome, where people expected it to have even more features than Sonic Adventure 2.
It's just a fun simple game with fun simple mechanics, a fun simple premise and without much clutter compared to the other Sonic games at the time.
The only thing I hate about it was the shoddy PS2 port compared to Xbox, GC and PC.
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No.19606
>>19605
What are the differences between the ps2 version compared to the other ones? I'm asking since I had that one.
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No.19607
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>19606
>60 FPS
>Better Sound
>Better Textures
>Faster Load Times
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No.19608
>>19598
I really hope we get some sort of trailer or a teaser at least…
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No.19609
>>19600
Yeah, I'd like that if anyone could actually make a 3D Sonic game with levels first.
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No.19610
>>19601
Trash with the best tone/style for Sonic.
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No.19611
>>19601
When I started playing it I loved it, specially Knuckles. After Seaside hill I started hating it and by the end of it I really hated it. Everything was a chore, the level design was uninspired and in certain cases frustrating, the cutscenes didn't make any sense, the monsters with HP were a terrible decision, and you have to replay the game several times to get the real ending.
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No.19612
>>19607
Huh. Guess I owe myself a replay on pc.
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No.19613
>>19573
https://sonicthehedgehogmovie.tumblr.com/
questions have been answered if anyone's curious
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No.19614
>>19613
>how was the audition process for you?
had a meeting with tim miller, saw sonic toys on his desk and mentioned how much he loved sonic, tim said they were going to do a test video to sell the movie to studios and invited ben to voice sonic for the test, they loved his work in the test that after trying to find someone else to voice sonic they came back to ben
>Hi! I'm going to be doing a school movie review for the sonic movie and id love to know what you felt was your favorite thing filming the movie was and what it was like filming with the others on set
some of ben's favourite parts (since he does a lot of work inside VA booths) is seeing his voice acting and the script be made into animation a year later and see sonic actually saying the lines. he also liked the premier and seeing everyone react and laugh and seeing kids excited by the movie
>Why do you seem to voice a lot of blue characters?
https://sonicthehedgehogmovie.tumblr.com/post/190681665751/why-do-you-seem-to-voice-a-lot-of-blue
>Did you play video games growing up? Or do you play them now?
he was a huge gamer growing up, (i think he's trying to say that) he tried 100%ing final fantasy 7 as a kid, and even now he's got a switch for when he tours & a genesis mini (he likes sonic 1 and 2)
>How are your new best friend Game Grumps?
"My best friends, the Gamey Grumpies,"
he likes the show and he likes being on it since it lets him play a video game to completion (exciting) and how it's playing a video game and talking with friends ("a dream, incredible"). says he's going to do one more either this year or next year
>What were some of your favorite lines spoken by yourself? Or other characters?
other characters: jim carrey had some incredible lines
for him: he improvised a couple of the lines since Jeff Fowler was so cool about letting them improvise cos "the best thing kinda wins", the "There's a fish on my head" line/scene is a mini attempt at a jim carrey in dumb and dumber impression where he goes "Our pet's heads are falling off"
>how did it feel having to portray a character which means a lot to a lot of people who have grown up with him?
sonic means a lot to him too - he played the original in 1991, sonic 2, sonic 2 on the game gear "where you're hang gliding a lot and the batteries die, immediately? making it nearly impossible unless you plug the game gear in", so he feels honoured by the opportunity and chance to play sonic, "and the fanbase is so passionate and amazing and I really wanna make them proud," says he's lucky that he gets to play sonic, and with the way the movie looks now he's so proud of how it came out
>Did you mainly work from the voice acting booth or did you also go on-site for a lot of the shoots?
mainly worked in the voice acting booths but also did a few table reads, went to set and got to meet jim carrey which was "an amazing beautiful moment for me", but was mostly in the VA booth "in pajamas and with a bunch of dots on my face and a camera, and we did like 20 or so of those, it was kind of amazing"
the rest of the questions i think are jokes
>Ben, are you worried you were or will be type cast as a hedgehog?
>Do you have any strong opinions about any specific types of cheese and/or bread?
>What’s the Jean-Ralphio quote people say to you the most?
>My friends and I saw your show with Thomas Middleditch in Toronto last year and loved it. Any chance you'll be back again soon?
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No.19615
>>19601
Was alright. I like the concept better than the execution. The three character team gameplay is something I wouldn't mind seeing again.
Wish they'd tidy up the PC port and re-release it.
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No.19616
>>19615
Just get the Dolphin Emulator, plug in your Controller, and play the Gamecube version.
If you want to try the PC version that much, there's various mods fixing all of the problems (Silent Patches etc.). This page is the perfect guide for each issue:
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Sonic_Heroes
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No.19617
>>19612
>>19615
>>19616
I actually uploaded a Heroes copy for /sthg/ like 5 years ago, complete with a mod to use Japanese voices too. The links might still be somewhere in the pastebins if you want to give it a try.
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No.19618
gonna put this here too. dont know whats taken already
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No.19619
>>19618
Pretty cool of you.
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No.19620
>>19618
All Stars Racing ain't trash.
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No.19621
>>19620
ive not played it and have no interest in it, it can be a diamond in the rough
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No.19622
>>18792
Here's the finished deck. Looks kinda sick but the red eyes are too edgy for me.
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No.19623
Good morning /fast/!
>>19622
Absolutely tubular
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No.19624
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No.19625
>>19624
The IDW thread hit the very bottom of the first page. When was it originally supposed to come out?
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No.19626
>>19623
Good morning anon!
>>19624
God dammit, this is really frustrating and I wish someone could do something. I hope they aren't surprised if subscription numbers start plummeting.
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No.19627
>>19625
I don't remember, but issue 25 was supposed to be out late last month IIRC.
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No.19628
http://info.sonicretro.org/Original_Story
Not gonna lie, this is pretty interesting stuff
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No.19629
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No.19630
>>19629
Nice Sage
does he come here?
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No.19631
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No.19632
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No.19633
>>19632
About as dead as every other character, which is not all
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No.19634
>>19633
*which is not at all
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No.19635
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No.19636
>>19633
He's as dead as Knuckles's race, sweetie.
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No.19637
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No.19638
>>19636
So not dead since knuckles is alive?
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No.19639
>>19638
A minuscule amount of life with no hope of ever recovering and eventually going to completely die.
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No.19640
>>19632
I'd love to have a Shard plush.
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No.19641
>>19639
Insane mongrel breeds like Fang exist, so logically Knuckles could end up with children.
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No.19642
>>19641
Yes, but then those children would procreate with non-echidnas, unless they partook in incest, and eventually the echidna genes would become so diluted that they'd barely exist in the population. Sorta like what eventually happened to the Saiyan genes on Earth in Dragon Ball Online.
Also, you would think modern spell checkers would recognize the word "echidna" by now.
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No.19643
>>19642
Logically yes, but it'd still be much longer lasting than a legacy comic character realistically.
I suppose a character dying over a few generations is more close than just a flat death huh. Logically even stuff like Sally is destined to fade away from the perspective of anything sonic really.
Spell checks can't have sane things, they always must have retarded shit going on.
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No.19644
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No.19645
>>19641
I think someone asked Fang’s original designer about his species and said he was something along the lines of originally envisioning him as a gerboa. At least that’s what cybershell deemed him as in a video about him and how Bean was a reference to the Dynamite Dux but he himself has woodpecker qualities and moves.
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No.19646
>>19645
He's officially a wolf/gerboa for whatever reason, nothing about his design was built with it in mind though.
He's just half wolf for the fuck of it.
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No.19647
>>19644
I completely forgot about ASO. How long has the pre-reboot Archie Sonic been dead now? 6-7 years?
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No.19648
>>19647
Something like 8 years, I think.
Honestly, I wasn't the biggest pre-boot fan but it's neat that ASO exists. Similar to STC:O, it kinda keep the memory of that product alive for those who loved it.
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No.19649
Some new prices or something. That statue looks very good!
>Introducing Sega Prize exhibiting at "Prize Fair"
>New figures and stuffed toys for our "Sonic the Hedgehog"!
>#JAEPO #Sega JAEPO2020 # JAEPO2020 #Sonic #Sega Prize
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No.19650
Stuff is beginning to be leaked early from the movie, so if you want to avoid spoilers, now's the time to go dark.
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No.19651
>>19650
From what I've read about the spoilers, I guess we can say the reddit summary from last year was telling the truth about what happens in the movie. Including Sonic flossing
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No.19652
>>19651
I'm glad I didn't read it back then, lol.
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No.19653
>>19651
Will it be as cringy now as it would be if it came out when flossing was at it's peak?
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No.19654
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No.19655
I finally got this shit to work, though so far I only got into the menu and haven't given it a spin. I like the main menu music quite a bit and I'm happy that I can switch the voices to Japanese without having to hack the damn game apart like in other cases. On the other hand I've had a few issues with the game not saving my preferences correctly and the main menu and background give me source game vibes, lol.
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No.19656
>>19654
We were gone?
>>19655
Glad to here you got it working, somewhat, anon. Good luck with the rest of the game.
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No.19657
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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No.19658
>>19656
Yes, the site was fucked for a good couple of hours.
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No.19659
>>19653
It was stupid back then and it will be stupid now.
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No.19660
>>19657
Nice to see people are coming up with diferent gameplay styles than the usual boost or endless plain jogging
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No.19661
>>19651
Well shit, a leak actually turned out to be true?
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No.19662
I'm happy to actually be playing this shit just because I get to play something new with Sonic but man I hope the rest of the game is not as cringeworthy as it looks like it might be. Sonic looks great in this though.
>create your own avatar
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No.19663
>>19662
>but man I hope the rest of the game is not as cringeworthy as it looks like it might be.
By that do you mean the look of the game or by the narration of the story?
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No.19664
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No.19665
>>19662
That whole webm is just peak Sonic Team stage design
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No.19666
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No.19667
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No.19668
>>19667
Taking into account how big Sonic's hands are that gun must be bigger than McBain's cannon.
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No.19669
>>19668
Think Sam's big fucking gun.
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No.19670
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No.19671
>>19670
did it die again or something
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No.19672
Continued a bit more into Forces. So far it's… not as bad as I thought it was going to be, honestly. I thought it was going to be offensively bad but it's not so far. The music is also not as bad as I thought it was going to be. I don't think they're great compositions on their own for the most part but they do go well with the game. I actually don't like how they did the boost this time. It's way too fast and difficult to control and they overdid the visual effect so you can't see shit when you're boosting, and they pretty much force you to boost very often which sucks. Also how on rails everything is is rather disgusting. I still haven't gotten used to the controls, there seem to be some odd quirks probably in some cases caused because of how automated everything is. In webm related for example I just couldn't easily aim on the badniks and I remember this happening before too at some other point.
>>19671
Yeah, it was down for hours. Getting real tired of this shit.
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No.19673
You know, after playing games that actually bring in classic gameplay into 3D more 1 to 1 than the official Sonic Team games did, it really reveals how I've grown tired of how they handle the level design in Sonic. When you look at the stage as a whole, you just go from set piece to set piece, mostly always just some path without much nuance or effort to progress, it's simple and nothing really challenging. I really wish a new design mentality was sought after, one that makes you think your in an environment to explore and platform in, that uses your own speed without much automation to progress.
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No.19674
>>19672
> It's way too fast and difficult to control and they overdid the visual effect so you can't see shit when you're boosting
Huh, really? Not to judge but after seeing this video just today I disagree that Forces has a faster boost.
https://twitter.com/slaveofsuzumiya/status/1135360833750478857?s=21
I even discussed about the effects of what makes Sonic seem fast and Forces lacks both of the effects used in Unleashed/Gens so I'd ask the question did you play Unleashed/Gens recently to make that statement?
Everything else you said I agree with.
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No.19675
>>19672
As the other anon that finished this a few days ago, the reason for the control quirks is because how Lost World played, because this game was built off from Lost World's gameplay. When you're going sideways, your controls are different than going back and forth. This along with the 8 directional movement and the run button being hardcoded into the game, in other words, going into your "max run state" is done via a flip in the code instead of a button press like in LW because they wanted you to accelerate like in the other boost games without actually making you accelerate so going into top run speed is actually the same programically as pressing the run button in LW.
And as for the Homing Attack, I think past games made aerial turning a lot more instant so aiming towards targets was more accurate but by Sonic Unleashed aerial turning became really slow so aiming became still and awkward.
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No.19676
>>19673
>I really wish a new design mentality was sought after
This is something I'm actually worried about. Forces really feels like they tried to translate some of the mobile experience they got with Runners into a main game, with the timed rewards, the way dialogue is structured, and the dumb DLC that you have to pay for (Super Sonic being the staple).
>one that makes you think your in an environment to explore and platform in
Having some exploration mixed in would already be a huge change for the better.
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No.19677
>>19676
Forgot to include at the end of the first paragraph that I hope this isn't the "new mentality" going forward.
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No.19678
>>19673
I don't think the set piece to set piece level structure has anything inherently bad about it, it's nice to see a stage transforming as you go through it. Though I do agree that they haven't been done in a manner that it would challenge players and reward them for taking bigger risks. Unleashed and Gens had some sort of branching paths that rewarded quick thinking, but it was more than anything rewarding the knowledge of the stage layout rather than skill, jumping at a precise moment to get on a higher ledge while >>>boosting like a maniac<<<
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No.19679
>>19674
Maybe it's not faster than in other games, but I don't remember having this level of trouble in Generations. Maybe the levels are smaller or designed differently and there's more visual contamination.
>did you play Unleashed/Gens recently to make that statement?
Nope.
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No.19680
>>19679
>Maybe the levels are smaller or designed differently and there's more visual contamination.
I beleive that's it. The levels are a lot more "cramped" and unlike previous games, both Lost World and Forces introduces the homing attack reticle appearing even on the ground instead of after you jumped into the air. It gets far worse with this in the last level of the game too.
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No.19681
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No.19682
>>19681
Lovely sloths… gotta save them all
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No.19683
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No.19684
>>19683
They're so cute
also we autosage now
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No.19685
>>19684
Eh. We can wait till later for a new one. Not like we have to automatically jump to the next thread when we have the entire board to ourselves
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No.19686
Today I found out they put Sonic movie ads next to the building I work in. It probably wouldn't be noteworthy in the US or UK but you never see anything Sonic here. Now I have to tolerate the dumb hedgehog even when at work. Coworkers started talking about Sonic because of it and it was kind of weird because I've never actually talked about Sonic with real people.
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No.19687
>>19686
It's like the 90s all over again huh…
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No.19688
>>19687
Yeah, only with subpar products and coworkers mentioning how Sonic died and is no longer popular.
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No.19689
>>19688
Oh so like Sonic between 96 and 98
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No.19690
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No.19692
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No.19693
>>19687
Enjoy it while it last, it will all fade away in a few months.
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No.19694
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No.19695
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No.19697
>>19694
Not sure if it's an unpopular opinion, but I'd love another Sonic game with the teams concept.
I'd also like a game with Sonic/Tails/Amy as a main team, tbh
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No.19698
Where have you fags gone? Hiding from the movie spoilers? Casualties from the DDoS? Having trouble finding the thread since it doesn't get bumped to the top?
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No.19699
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No.19700
So… where is the IDW Storytime?
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No.19701
>>19700
Comes out tomorrow anon >>19238
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No.19702
>>19700
Tomorrow, or Thursday morning
Depends on when I'm up, tbh
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No.19703
>>19701
I Know, but… when this kind of threads where in 4chan "Comics & Cartoon", there was always a guy who uploaded the comic like… 3 or 4 hours before it was the day it releases (For exaple, comic number 24 was supposed to come out 25 december, but some guy started storytime it the 24)
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No.19704
>>19703
That's mainly because the comics latest issues that sometimes leaks. But it doesn't happen all the time, at least from my memory.
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No.19707
God damn, not even a toeifag but this looks amazing.
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No.19708
>>19707
>Yeah. Too bad that halfchan thread about it blasted it for no reason
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No.19709
>>19707
It does look pretty, but the gameplay itself doesn't strike me as very interesting so far.
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No.19710
>>19707
The level design looks subpar, especially with those vine tracks that suddenly have holes in them with no time to react unless you've memorized them. That air dash also looks slow and cumbersome, and I really don't like the idea of having to use it on chains of enemies to reach high places. If you're gonna do that, just put in the homing attack. The only thing this seems to have going for it is the pretty animation, and pretty animation doesn't make a game.
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No.19711
>>19710
This post.
The game is nice and while I won't shit on any fan game, I never like doing that. The feels like the definition of Style over Substance.
Great idea, good visuals, sub-par gameplay and bad level layout.
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No.19712
>>19710
>and pretty animation doesn't make a game.
Heh, I wish people said this when defending a game for its visuals/music.
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No.19713
A website has managed to publish a review on the movie ahead of the embargo lifting. There are no story spoilers in the TSSZ article but haven't had time yet to read the original review. Apparently the reviewer doesn't think the movie is good but I haven't found an actual score in the original article. I'll need to give the review a proper read but if the quote TSSZ made in their article is representative it seems the review itself is rather dumb.
http://www.tssznews.com/2020/02/12/first-published-sonic-movie-review-1-5-4-stars/
Original review: http://archive.is/9E5pB
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No.19714
>>19713
The review score is literally under the title though?
That review is really odd looking at it. It keeps on trying to look for something the movie clearly was never promising either, without context it feels like odd shots.
However i doubt context will change how odd the gripes are. Movies do not need to be complex to be good.
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No.19715
>>19714
I guess that's why all Luc Besson movies are my guilty pleasures…
No other snail-sucker can make action more intense than he does.
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No.19716
Morning /fast/!
In good news, I'll storytime IDW #25 in just a few minutes
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No.19726
>>19716
Here's the storytime: >>19717
Would've finished it earlier, but the fucking site was messing up on me
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No.19727
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No.19728
Hey /fast/
Dance time. Also movie spoilers if you don't want to look.
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No.19729
>>19728
That pixel Sonic is really good but shame they forgot his shoe buckles
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No.19730
>>19728
I really hate that hedgehog
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No.19732
>>19710
>>19709
I agree that the level design is not so good up above but I actually liked what I saw on land. Also agree about the air dash, definitely needs to be improved specially if the idea is to use it repeatedly.
>vine tracks that suddenly have holes in them with no time to react unless you've memorized them
What's the difference with every other endless pit or hole in 2D Sonic?
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No.19734
>>19726
Thanks for the storytime anon!
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No.19738
Mean to post >>19735 here instead of the other thread.
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No.19746
>>19738
I wouldn't say nervous about the movie itself, tbh. At most, it seems like it's gonna be a harmless kids film with an added novelty of seeing Sonic on the big screen.
The only concern I may have is how SEGA will capitalize on the momentum this movie could give the series
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No.19747
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March Sonic Channel wallpaper hint!
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No.19748
https://twitter.com/sonic20th/status/1228144328696004610?s=20
>Translated from Japanese by
While waiting for Sonic to go on an adventure, Emmy is eager to make sweets on the second floor of a bakery in Spagonia. Chocolate bar made with heart will surely taste wonderful. Did the tip help you …?
Today is Valentine's Day. I hope you all have a sweet day ★ [Channel staff]
#Amy#Chip#Big
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No.19749
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No.19750
Did they put some more gas into the server yet?
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No.19751
>>19747
>>19749
So I guess Amy will be the Sonic Channel character this month. Very lovely art, tbh
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No.19752
>>19751
Indeed! I'd love to know who's the artist for these.
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No.19753
>>19751
Fitting for Velentine’s Day. Will the new thread be based on that theme or the movie?
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No.19755
>>19732
I'd say either one would work, but a Sonic movie themed thread would probably be more fitting.
Also, this is a thing now: https://twitter.com/sonicjpnews/status/1228318320094568448?s=21
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No.19756
>>19753
I'd prefer Valentine's day themed but I'd be lying if I said the movie is not tglhe biggest event.
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No.19757
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No.19758
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No.19759
>>19755
That's going to be sweet! I'm kind of excited, I love everything about JP Sonic. I'm happy the JP side is starting to ramp up their social media presence since it allows for a nice flow of cool stuff like the UhSuhLah pics from the Marza account and the new pictures we've been getting from Sonic's account and this new livestream too!
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No.19760
The cutscenes in Forces actually look pretty good. I never liked how they looked in Generations.
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No.19761
>>19760
Generations only had 3 cutscenes.
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No.19762
>>19761
Its a lot more than 3, i don't know what game you played but generations had cutscenes all over the place.
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No.19763
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No.19764
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No.19765
>>19763
Good afternoon, anon!
So has anyone here gone to see the Sonic Movie, yet?
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No.19766
>>19763
Morning anon. Damn, that's a nice render. If it wasn't kind of blurry I would have thought it was real.
>>19765
I haven't but if you want to post about it I don't mind.
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No.19767
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No.19768
>>19760
>I never liked how they looked in Generations.
It helps that in Forces, they aren't just in empty white space or generic Windows XP field.
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No.19769
Sonic movie concept art!
New thread tomorrow
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No.19771
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No.19772
>>19765
I just came back from watching it.
I have to admit that I had low expectations, but I came out more than satisfied with it. I think it has some pacing problems, and there's so many things that could have been expanded much more, but besides that it was a fun experience, and I'm glad I went to see it on the theater.
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No.19773
>>19771
Apparently, this was supposed to be a villain in the movie that got scrapped.
Why? I dunno, other than the fact that maybe studio changing caused some things in he film to get dropped.
>>19772
Glad to hear you liked it, anon!
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No.19774
>>19766
I don't remember where I got these from, but yeah, they look nice.
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No.19775
Played Sunset Heights yesterday, it brought me back to when we first saw this stage in SXSW years ago. It was kinda sad, that point was when I finally accepted that Forces was not going to deliver. Between the speed and how much is going on the screen the webm comes out awful and eats through the whole filesize, lol. Sonic's air control is so weird in this game, Modern controls way too loosely and Classic is too unpredictable because of the opposite basically, he stops too fast so you can't calculate well where he's going to land. Similar experience to what someone else had recently I think.
>>19760
On the other hand, these micro cutscenes that last only a handful of seconds and sometimes cut out to a completely different locations or continue in the chat screen are annoying and feel cheap as hell.
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No.19776
>>19774
From the filename it looks like halfchan.
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No.19777
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No.19778
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So this is a thing
>>19774
Those are some great renders
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No.19779
>>19778
very impressive for a fan game. It's good to see people putting actual full levels out instead of just engines with one single test environment. And they even did cutscenes with voice acting. It's a lot of effort
Still, that camera needs a lot of work. And there are a lot of sections where Sonic's movement just looks awkward like when he's running on walls or making turns while running without boosting. It's still a really great start though. I hope it continues to get polished
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No.19780
>>19779
Yeah. Personally I'd put some of the mess-ups down to the Sonic Infinity Engine being unfinished but I'll give credit to the guy for working around some of the problems.
Between this, Sonic Islands & that Sonic Adventure Chronicles fangame, there's some real cool stuff coming down the pipeline for 3D Sonic fangames.
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No.19781
https://pastebin.com/itvTaqPv
Okay so for some dumb reason, this site isn't allowing me to make the thread rn.
So if an anon luckier than me can do it, here's the updated OP I was planning on using. You can add anything I might be missing
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No.19782
>>19778
I'm always happy to see fangames pop up and it seems like a lot of work went into this one but the intro though impressive feels like it's missing a bit of quality assurance and the level seems to be designed in a way that's makes it impossible to keep your motion which doesn't look very fun. Also the camera doesn't look very good.
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No.19783
>>19778
Gameplay looks decent enough, and the amount of work that went into it is obviously impressive, but a lot of the level design from the second act looks very much like it's going for big without thinking about how it plays. There's a lot of big empty spaces of nothing except a trail of rings you're seemingly expected to light dash to speed through the big nothing. It also lacks a lot of player direction, and I had a hard time seeing where exactly the player was expected to go.
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No.19784
>>19775
>Similar experience to what someone else had recently I think.
Present. Yeah like I said, it's baffling how when he moves through the air in 2D it somehow is both better than classic Sonic but also too loose for those small platforms in 2D sections. Plus something else I found out while playing this, if you let go of your analog stick he stops on a dime… But if you direct his movement it carries? It's fucking offputing.
Forces biggest issue for me is not the tone, it's the gameplay, how it just feels like it's a hodgepodge of ever type of Sonic gameplay in all of his eras fighting for dominance at the same time.
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No.19786
>>19769
raptor jesus doesn't look anything like the sonics.
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No.19788
>>19778
One of these days a 3D fangame's gonna come out and knock it out of the park, putting Sonic Team to shame. I just know it.
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No.19790
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No.19794
>>19790
thanks for baking!
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