/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

>>30488

Hey anon keep at it! I'm gonna keep headpatting your faries and bumbling around making terrible dishes until they tantrum. I'm really looking forward to where you go! I don't post much but you deserve some encouragement.

>>30496

Thanks brah

Here have some tiddies!

My brother worked hard for those, it came out very well

>>30507

>how will the tiddies fit into it?

You can't have a harvest moon-style game without marriage

>If you want to I can share how to make some more better looking tiddies

Please do, the female model is in early/mid modeling stage, so if im going to change them it has to be now, otherwise it will end like the male model, which im having to remake

>>30508

well to be honest, when playing stardew valley I often wondering how it didn't have any lewd mods yet

besides the nudity ones, there is plenty of room for ecchi in that game

regarding the bewbs, I was often bothered by how they looked so fake in cm3d2

after extensive fiddling I've managed to find a good balance and formula that works well for most cases

natural boobs hang much more, having more mass on the lower part than upper, also shapes vary wildly and are up to taste

for I example I would prefer still firm, rounder or pointy boobs

>>30498

My friend, I'm not sure that's how boobs work. Even if you are making the biggest sized ones so you can scale it down later and still work with your jiggle physics, your boobs are too close to each other. The circles in which they extrude outwards are too close to each other. You should leave a gap between them. As a breast is extruded, it grows in size. They are tear dropped shaped not torpedos lol.

>>30508

Make sure you use subdivision when you redo it otherwise it will be a waste for you to remake it. The reason you get ugly distortions is because of that bad topology. It's still there. To get good topology you must follow these rules:

<Do not make triangles. Ever. Always use quads unless you are making a pole

<Poles are vertices with more than 4 connections and are used to sow together topological lines of quads.

<limit your usage of poles and make poles in places where the bones dont deform at corners because they have bad deformations.

You may need to brush up on your anatomy. Look up Proko anatomy videos on YouTube. It will make a difference. I modeled a quick torso for you with the main topological paths to show you how the topology should look like. Notice how it follows the muscles.

>>30511

Not sure if you are aware, but I am not aiming for realistic models, i will be going for 4~6 head tall anime style models, but i will still take your feedback into consideration to improve the models, thanks for the tips.

>>30514

You are good at modeling the overall shape, but yet you say you still struggle with the topology and deformations. You quiet simply cannot make good shapes and have good topology without understanding where the topology of the shape comes from. A basic understanding of the skeleton and muscles are vital to achieve both. Not just for looks but also mainly for deformations. You don't need to go overboard with studying anatomy but you should definitely dip your feet in the water. It will save you time in the long run. I am still a noob but my work on the Shinobu model taught me that it's just not possible to make good anime models without referencing the human body. I had to redo her twice because I didn't want to learn anatomy. Anime model references are made from human references after all. Just trying to help. I've been following your great project for a long while.

>>30515

where did you find the muscular anatomy references? simply googled and found them or some specific site?

i really love your shinobu model, just wish you didn't lewd her that much

>>30520

Use Proko. He has short 10-15 minute videos on specific parts of the body. He tells you first about the bones, muscles, then form. Kind of funny too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRM7pT-Yric

I also could not find topology references online in one place. People always want you to pay for them. So I also googled images. These are my only good images for male topology. I recommend you remake your male body and the same time copy the topology of these images. Modeling the shape is easier when you have your topology down. It's not that it's too realistic and muscular, it's that that's how the male body is. You can scale it down afterwards from this topology. Take note of the ring that goes from shoulder to shoulder.

>>30522

it really looks better now, but only if i add a subdivision modifier

Holy shit the shoulders are being a fucking challenge, my reference differs too much from the topology refs, and finding middle ground is being a nightmare. Already did and deleted it twice

>>30544

Remember its a giant ring that falls on the shoulders like pic related.

This is much harder than it looks, but i managed to make the top of the shoulders now

I think i got it

Next hands

>>30563

Looks good man. Im not sure about the middle of your pecks on the front side though. There shouldn't be that tiny thin column of quads going up. You may want to simplify it right around nipple level so you get rid of it and make the quads of the breasts change direction from sideways to go upwards. Also you may want to turn on to edit cage mode so your vertices snap to your subdivision surface. Easier to see. I think you have one too many lines of quads on the front going from the crotch to the neck. Look at the 5 point pole on the pevis. See how it is 4th from the middle? It should be 3rd from the middle like the reference. Try merging to center opposite vertices of square to simplify it without having to redo the whole thing. I made a short video about the trick in my thread.

I would totally ignore the dude from the thread. He was full of shit.

>>30580

Thanks man, you have been a great help

you mean the one who thought i was making up the topology loops? Its funny how he reacted after i shown the reference

>>30580

Finished the head and removed the center line as you suggested, also the edit cage tip makes this so much better, i don't believe i missed it, thanks again

Im trying to simplify a bit more, but so far i can't do it without losing the shape, with the subdivisions it comes under 14k triangles, will probably be 30k~40k with clothes, im satisfied with it, now i only need to place the armature and use shape keys if this topology is not enough for good deformations

>>30586

WAY better. You'll have enough vertices to play with a collarbone and pectoral muscles. Right now it has quiet the womanly bust and hips. Move the nipple level vertices lower. You can do so easily by selecting multiple vertices and pressing G+G to activate positional sliding. Then move your mouse downards and your selected vertices will slide downwards along the edges it's on. As for the face, even if you say you are gonna slap on textures, your topology is not optimal, especially with subdivision. You can shave off quiet a number of triangles if you do it correctly. I might even say you have more vertices on the face than the rest of the body and they aren't necessary since you don't need a mouth or eye sockets. Definitely half the vertices there. Nose is fine though. Keep that chin pole if you can.

I reverted to the backup i made before applying the subdivision... but i will have to apply it eventually before exporting to Unity because Unity does not import the modifier itself

I will make the armature for now

Hey, this might be the best hand i made so far

Started the texturing, plenty of misplaced features already, but should be done tomorrow

body texturing 90% done

Do you guys think the eyes are too derpy? Maybe i should being them closer together

Old Adam vs New Adam

Face close in

Hair progress

hair is finally done, it was much harder than i expected

Boots!

Gonna make the shape keys for pants+boots tomorrow

Pants and Boots, it has a shape key to shrink the lower parts of the pants into the boots

Its looking much better than the previous model, im glad i decided to redo it

>>30692

thanks brah

Jacket 75% done

After that i only need to make the scarf

jacket done, need to add bones for the scarf, but i think i will do so in another armature so the other clothes are not attached to the scarf armature which has extra bones they will never use

New Adam is mostly done

Cloth coliders added

now remaking the female model

Instead of going for a straight T-pose im going to make these with a 30º angle on the arms so the clothes are easier to make

>>30781

When in doubt, ask questions!

>>30782

It was a full retard moment, i didn't even had questions in my mind

Fixed the T pose and started doing the hands, third try already, this is always one of the hardest parts

BIG NEWS

My brother has decided to quit his job and join me in a bit over a month, starting from April 1st yeah i know, its his sense of humor he will be working on the game fulltime

topology is mostly finished for the female model, i need to make several adjustments on the armature and several things have changed in comparison to the old model

Next is attaching the armature and checking all movements

found out the secret for qt anime hands, just make the nails rounder

>>30823

I watched this yesterday, very helpful

After another full day working on this i got this result, the final segment of the fingers have bones of the same size as the middle segment, but if it was a real finger the bone would stop midway, in my model i extend it to the tip of the nails, i still need to calibrate the exact potion of the thumb bones, but for now its fine, i need to finish the other parts of the model

Boob slider is here!

>>30842

didn`t work well, but i found another way to do it, i will use the breast bones to change the orientation of the breast during the proccess, making it point a bit upwards, making them look more perky

Also size slider is done, i will probably make another for smaller characters

>>30849

Cool. But you can just use a shape key without needing to make to make it needlessly complex with another bone. That's what blend shapes are for. Here's a quick boob slider I made in 10 minutes to show you that our exact topology allows for breast shape sliders and looks good with in betweens. You just need to get the topology shift right. It's not that hard. Look at the wireframe in my video. It even works with my breast bones before and after for a nice jiggle. I don't actually plan to use this shape key.

>>30852

You were right, it was worth trying again

Looks much better now, but i had to change the shape of the max size boobs slightly

Also i still need to smooth the flat version i never used the sculp tools, is it there the tool to smooth surfaces?

>>30860

Other than the boobs and butt bones all others are used by Unity's Mecanim, i made sure to even give them the same names they have in there

Shape keys done, now to texture

I fucked up

I fucked up

I fucked up

I fucked up

I fucked up

I fucked up

I forgot to mirror the important changes i did to the left hand, i will now have to redo all shape keys to be able to mirror it

2-3 days of work into the trash

well since i can change the base shape more anyways i decided to add something

VERY IMPORTANT

support for stockings!

I think i will make it at B

My internet is very unstable, seems like the modem is dying, it was super hot earlier and i turned it off for a while until it cooled down, but seems like it is fucked

>>30888

only a few girls will accept polygamy like the elves, and there will be no kingdoms to inherit, we are thinking about procedural children that age and help in the farm, but that won't be on the first release

Didn't get much progress today... food poisoning + headache, tomorrow i should finish the texturing on the base female model

Ready to start making Sasha's face

finally decided on the eye shape for Sasha

>>30905

depends how hard it will be to age all characters, i don't want everyone to be "forever 17" this shit breaks immersion

Still doesn't looks good...

Gonna make them larger then see what else it needs to look better

She looks derpy as fuck, not sure how to fix

Got the eyes closer together and lowered brows, looks fine now... i think

Its only from the front, from other angles look better

>>30922

My first priority is give each character a distinctive look, i hate samesafe characters

>>30923

My brother got really excited when i told him my idea, he wants to push at least some of the town out during 5/5 demoday, i will see if i can plan some buildings by then along with a few characters even if the demo will be just Adam walking/cutting grass

trying to figure out how to hair

50% done

Texturing the hair took way longer than expected

Sasha Boreas

Age: 52 Laetus years, 16 in Earth years (A year in Laetus lasts 112 days)

Race: Human

Marriageable: Yes

Personality: Energetic and Radiant

Favorite Food: Basically anything with potatoes

Native of Mistri, previously part of Valvalia which became Pollan territory for a few years, Sasha’s town was attacked by the goblin horde that plagues the continent after the fall of Scarlon, during the attack she and her mother were embarked into a merchant ship used as emergency refugee transport, but the ship was destroyed in a massive storm before it could reach the safe harbors of New Vinlarr, Sasha was the only survivor and was dragged by a mysterious creature to the beaches near the town of Edengrall. She was rescued and quickly accepted by the villagers, she now lives in the tavern and helps around as much as she can, despite losing everything dear to her she is able to smile and be cheerful when others are around, suppressing her sorrow, her biggest fear is being seen as a burden.

>>31231

Because energetic girls have cute fangs

Comfy mode Sasha achieved

Bra and short jeans, still gonna do the size key shapes

Doing kneesocks now

Next, shirt

Sasha default clothing done

I will make a few more characters before making winter clothing for them all

Starting new girl now

Meet Elly, she is a good girl and she likes to read books all day and night

making her wings tomorrow

>>31281

lower lips, they are naturally colorful and glossy because of her species

Now i need to fine tune the weight painting, specially on the hair

>>31301

I made you this sketch hopefully it's useful but it's a more ideal rig for the wings. Your model currently has 72 bones for wings which is absurd for a simple game character and would be a nightmare to weight paint the wing roots. Remember you should keep vertex deformations to max of 4 bones. You would run into almost 8. This approach is only 26 bones and covers all the important parts in <= 4 bones per vertex. Body language will be easier to achieve with this and will be 100x faster to animate. Rig bones shouldn't necessarily line up with the bones themselves. They can represent groups of bones.

As for your hair, it's really cute but I can't see it very well to make a sketch for it. However I do also see too many bones. You have 3 bone chains with about 11 bones. That's nuts man. Instead use 2 bone chains with 6 bones.

Our trees will change daily with this system, the leaf color will also change slightly every day

Finished several variations of small modular branches, this time i will place them in varying angles instead of doing two billboards in the same axis for each branch end

Before and After

Expanded the shrine isle/lake and made it into a temple isle and lake

It has a tunnel to climb up from the water

My bro improved the shader and i improved the leaves, also added more branches, each tree has 3800 triangles

Looking at references, but still can't decide on a style for the tree houses

They can't fill the entre platform as there will be bridges and people will need a bit of space in the platform to walk between two bridges

comfy symmetric bar

Haven't posted in a while, but we have been working on the game every day

By the way, tomorrow is the one year anniversary of the Friday Report

https://fablesoflaetus.com/report53/

Tree Spiral!

Treehouses done, overall designs of Forest District and Aqua District are mostly done

Remade the central building in the Aqua District

Before and After

Library/Museum WIP

progress

First two floors are the museum part, last two will be filled with books

Also roof garden like in most buildings

Temple Progress

Just wanted to say that I'm really liking the direction this game is taking. I check back every few months (or so) and the last thing I remember seeing was the cooking demo. This has come way farther than I would have thought and when you end up releasing it, you can at least count me buying it. Keep it up anon

>>31710

t-thanks

Now to remake the lighthouse and the floodgates

Remade the lighthouse

Now only need to make the largest district

The Port/Market district

Playing story of seasons after work now, it was the only harvest moon-like game i haven't played before

So many ideas to st-take inspiration from!

Making INN/Tavern

River technology

exterior is mostly done

Inn done, has 6 rooms, attic, kitchen, laundry room, storages, large tavern, games room, plenty bathrooms and innkeeper room (tower)

And the bridges to the Community Center and the Library

River with water reflections

Shopping district will basically be like this, each building is a shop, total 10 buildings with two floors each

almost done

almost ready for Unity

Transfer to Unity was (mostly) without problems! Just need to fix a ton of small graphical glitches, mainly faces with flipped normals

There is not such a thing as a half A press

Finally finished the new terrain, remade the entire terrain mesh using my brother's terrain system, it is made to allow procedural generation of props and objects based on the terrain type/biome, so filling the map will be much easier later on

Added a few more details, im satisfied with the terrain now, time to check collision boxes

Huuuum, maybe it needs a skybox now

character animation is suffering

>>31890

this is hell

fixing small glitches on the city meshes, mostly ready

>>31891

That image really irks me for some reason.

We had to make the dynamic bridge building system spawn simple planks for now, we didn't finish it in time, but at least you can get on the treehouses with those

>>31994

0/10 Just kidding

That looks super comfy and looks like you put in a lot of work in it. It can definitely blossom into a pretty fucking cool RPG adventure thing. Something within the scale of a PS2~PS3 game (considering modern software and the size of your team). I love the variety of buildings within your town and that you can walk inside all of them. I really do like how there is a calm peaceful comfy shrine outside. The river flowing throughout the entire town was a nice touch. Felt like a hotel pool with the bar at the center.

Now for real criticism: I agree with the other Anon that you could have done better planning out your houses with simpler shapes first. I feel like the main town buildings are too close to each other and some buildings feel disproportionally small and claustrophobic inside. Height:Width measurements are sort of erratic. This would have been corrected if more testing with the player running around to get a better feel. That's all I got. Good luck. Keep on trucking.

bridges and shit

Iam not satisfied with the current state of the Ladrasil and the Ironwood trees, it indeed look silly to have trees under a large tree, i will remodel all of it into a huge Banyan tree, with the ironwood trees becoming roots to support the much longer branches that will extend over the temple lake, the tree will also have roots covering the community center, creating a fusion of marble and wood

Now to turn these 160 curves into meshes and merge them into a single mesh....

>>32116

im not referring to the tree, but in general

Im usin triplanar for the tree, so there is no need for UV there

Even when it goes well it is a boring process and i hate it

Proper materials make it so much better

God damn it, this shit never ends

Climbing the tree is entertaining even with this clunky movement, should become actually fun when my bro finishes the new movement system with ledge grab and shit

The city is getting prettier every day, and i still have plenty textures/materials to add, not to mention details like flowers and shit

And one day this tree will be covered in leaves and vines

building bridges, 12 more to go...

>>32160

t-thanks

90% of the materials have been replaced, only a few left

Finished replacing the default blender materials into UBER shader materials, i will try to change the style from realistic into slightly more cartoony eventually, but for now they will remain as they are

Next step is to add some ambiance sound and start looking for pretty skybox scripts (i found some with inbuilt weather system, look neat)

Bro is making progress on the ledge grabbing

City is textured and looking good for now, i will change my focus back to the characters

Say hello to the new Adam!

>>32208

Now lets go back 1 year ago meet the first version of Adam to compare

>>32209

>cringeeeeee

Real men cringe at their current work to improve further.

No more empty blender materials

Making long hair is harder than expected, this looks like shit, will probably have to redo the texture

You're doing great!

>>32277

Thanks!

Gave her glasses, now the hard part, clothes

Im going for a mix of Rorona and Pamela (doll), using the top parts of Rorona (simplified) and Pamela long skirt

finished rigging, now the shape keys and uv mapping

Added cape and pendant

almost done

Solved the shoes problem by giving more work to future-me, they will require a special walking animation, i will deal with it later

Now time to texture the frills!

Frilly frills done

now time to uv map Sasha's clothes and everything will be ready for Unity... probably

Elly with her clothes and using Sasha's

Finished Elly's alternative haircut, now need to remake her cape's rigging, i didn't work well in Unity

The Proportion modifier script is taking a while so i started making veggies while my bro work on it more

Lowpoly carrot with flower anyone? Harvesting seeds on our game will be less complicated than in most Harvest moon-like games, no need to buy the seeds every time or make a "seedmaker" machine, just don't harvest the thing and wait it sprouts flowers and the flowers will turn into seeds after a while

This baby has 64 triangles, so having huge fields of veggies will not be taxing on the graphics

>>32446

like this?

Proportion modifier script is (almost) up, my bro is still fixing issues with it, but i could increase Elly's model to her actual ingame size with the current version, she will look a bit taller in the game because of her high heels

Turnip, ok now that i have 3 crops lets see if i can learn how to animate the growth of these babies

>having to change texture layout and UV map on all the plants for the third time already

Plants done, now gonna try animating the girls

Animating characters now, each will have an unique idle animation

Here, he made an webm

Made Idle animations, gonna refine these later

Time to start the next girl, a milf Foxgirl, and next her daughter

My inspiration for her is adult Serval

I think i captured the calm and mature aura on the eyes

jacket done

First demoday version ready

My brother is trying to add grass on the demo, i don't have anything that i could add in time for the demoday, so im back to making the third girl, the Innkeeper Reiko.

Improved her, looks more mature now, but something is still missing...

I got it, instead of shrinking the whole iris i should instead make it squish to make it round, looks way better now

Bro added grass back into the game! Now works on the new terrain system.

Also fluffy ears

Is this just my bias or is she turning out better than the previous girls?

Gonna try a mix of western and eastern dressed for her clothes, a simple kimono is too boring

She gonna have 9 tails in game, they will be 9 copies of this one.

Finished rigging the clothes, gonna UV map it now

Then i will make her some shoes and a fan, Reiko will be finished much faster than Sasha and Elly were, the character creation pipeline is speeding up

What are the expected system requirements for the demos? I'm not sure if it really matters at this stage in development but I only get 25-30fps at 1080p on "Fastest" settings with a gtx860m. It's not the greatest card, but it can run beefier games at higher frame rates. It could just be Unity, I dunno. Again, I don't know if it really matters at this point, I just wanted to give a heads up.

Otherwise, I don't have much to comment on other than how much I'm liking the ambiance. I'm sure the world will start to get more lively once you start adding more dynamic stuff. On that note, maybe having the characters' eyes and hair move around would make them look more lifelike. I am curious what all of the tree houses will be used for, but they are fun to climb and run around on.

This has been somewhat stream of consciousness, so sorry if it's a little jumbled. All in all you're doing good, keep it up!

Just need something on the neck and a fan for her to hold

The game is looking great so far, i can't wait to pirate it

>>32631

Thanks for the heads up.

Shape keys are very useful indeed.

>Had a dream where the game suddenly became popular and a ton of people started to follow the development

>Notice it is a dream, get disappointed, dream shifts into something else making me forget i am dreaming, then go back to previous dream with bigger numbers this time (more followers, comments, etc...)

>This happens at least 3 times the same night

Why is my brain bullying me?

Karen hair basic shape done, now to add volume

Final touches before UV mapping

Textured and rigged, now clothes

Forgot to do the rigging before doing the chest size shapekey, i hope i don`t regret it tomorrow

Well this is her bust size btw, much more modest than her mother`s