/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

this sounds extremely ambitious for two people

do you guys have other games under your belt?

>>27924

nope by ourselves, we did work for a company that made a few browser/android games, we got about 2 years of experience with that, but we have many years of experience starting projects and getting bored, so we have plenty tool knowledge this time im sure i will keep myself motivated because i REALLY wanna quit my job to work on this fulltime, and this is my one dream game that i REALLY wanted to make for years, but didn't have the experise back then

and we both work as programmers full time, so we got that covered

>>27929

>quit my job to work on this fulltime

game aside, creating a specific dream game and creating something that sells rarely align. test ideas out early and be prepared to make compromises.

also don't forget being an indie dev includes being a entrepreneur so you'll have to learn everything involved with running a business. including marketing, accounting, business law, etc.

>>27933

Yes I am aware of that

I have already made some market research

If the game flops it should still make around 5k sales on steam for 15bucks, from which I will receive about 10 per copy, 50000 bucks would cover 3 years of development easily

I will also test the waters with a Kickstarter before dropping everything

>>27934

that link looks super sketchy by the way. at least host it on a dev blog or something.

the screenshot and pitch doesn't really inspire the imagination either.

well, I'm a nodev myself so I'll wait until you get off the ground before I throw opinions around

good luck

>>27936

Dev or not i will take all constructive critics

I plan to start a blog by the end of the year when the cooking system is almost finished, right now only Pan/Pot recipes are implemented, i will also overhaul the UI and make it more "juicy", maybe add some animations

I currently made several small balance changes/bug fixes and tests on the current version, will upload the new version this weekend

I will take a week break because i will have to do some extra hours at work and civ6 is looking pretty good, i wanna play some on this weekend.

NEW VERSION

Oven unlocked!

http://www.filedropper.com/cooking_2

>>28029

congrats on making something, but I'm not sure why you're uploading this. messed around with it for a bit and it doesn't work as a stand alone game and I don't see how it's core to the concept you described.

>>28032

its a feature demo, im starting with this feature because it will be the most unique one in the game, no other game has such depth in cooking

The world and most of the basic mechanics are being made by my brother in Unity, we will merge everything later

>>28033

played the game for a bit and about to shit on it as constructivly as I can. I also just like telling other people what I think they're doing wrong even if I'm talkig out of my ass, so don't take it personally.

first off I'd be careful when using "depth" as a goal or selling point, it's not a well defined term in terms of game mechanics. my working definiton is how much consideration is needed before reaching an ideal solution. playing around with your game a bit it's not that much deeper than those alchemy flash games where you mix and match elements mostly by guessing which ones go together. and you have all these numbers on the screen that don't mean anything to me, except for the one in the corner you didn't label and I assume is the only one that matters. feels like you're shooting more for realism than depth anyways.

comparing it to other cooking games is also a bit misleading, you're standard should be the crafting genre which I would say cooking is a sub set of. so you're looking at games like the Atelier series and which ever game fathered the mechincs in holy potatos a weapon shop (I just tried it recently, there are better examples).

there are a few things I like, just having a list of ingrediencts kind of gives a sense of freedrom similar to scribblenauts. keep at it, regardless of how it turns out you're doing better than the dozens on nodevs that lurk these threads.

>>27934

My advice about kickstarter:

Don't start a kickstarter fundraiser to finance the development of your game if you don't have a history of delivering games within the reasonable and public schedule. You can do this by actually finishing your game; it must be a polished v1.0 release. When your game is ready to go public, that's the time when you can publish a demo game to accompany your Kickstarter fundraiser; you can put down some value that you think your game is worth and hope that your customers also agree. One possible method you can do is to plan a series of episodes or expansions that can be used to develop a personal experience and also a public history. The reason for this way is that you don't mislead people into schedules that were too tight to achieve or ideas that were too grandiose to achieve.

>>28041

no, i don't want to drag development for over 7~9 years

i want to work fulltime on this as soon as possible

i will have a small feature demo before i start the campaign though

Btw i will be asking for 50,000 to keep me and my brother working fulltime on this for 3 years

I think its a fair deal

Anything i earn above this will keep me working on the game further (to start the expansions as soon as i release the game)

The expansions and DLCs i make using this money i will be releasing for free

>>28043

Trust me, it's way too much. You are probably not gonna get even 5% of that. I would just ask for something like 10k to 15k if you got a fun playable demo.

I know my game that was in a more playable state and had decent-ish graphics did not get $1 on patreon, lol. So the lesson that I learned is that you must be very far in development and really show what the game's about before you start asking for more.

>>28049

well i could make one per year for 15k instead

I know the market im targeting is ready to pay for the game im making, my only serious competition is Stardew Valley, and the game has limited content, so people who finish it will eventually be hungry for more

If i sell 3% of what Stardew made it will pay off 3 years of development, and im sure i can make something of that level if not better

>>28051

I don't want to make any assumptions, but what you've posted so far is giving me the sense you don't know enough to quit your day job.

I could rant on about this for a while but for now I'll just say that the self employed learn through mistakes, and you probably don't want to spend those mistakes making your magnum opus.

>>28052

>Don't know enough

You mean in the technical or business sense?

>>28053

my mind was on business, but I'm guessing there's a ton of crap you'll need to learn before the game gets off the ground, some of which you may not know exists until you need it.

>>28051

I can tell you one way to test if you are right or wrong. Before you make a kickstarter, make a patreon, see if you get even $100 per month. If you don't, it's super unlikely to ask for a lot of money on kickstarter, even if 15k is not a lot.

You need to make a playable demo that shows at least 75% of what can be done in the final, full game, before asking for money. At least that's what I plan to do now.

>>28052

> you probably don't want to spend those mistakes making your magnum opus

I take that back, you want to be passionate about the project you work on, but keep the dev cycle short, at least for your first run through. chances are you'll be dreaming up a new grand work as soon as you flesh the first one out.

>>28028

Oy vey. looks neat

>>28092

Critics are welcome, new version by this weekend

didn't sleep in the election night because it ended by 5:00 am where i live, and i had to go work 6:00 am, and yesterday i went right to bed because i was exausted after work, going to work on it tonight

MAGA

>>28131

I don't know what it is but something about this isn't clicking. it looks like it should have a similar game loop as alchemy but I'm getting bored after a few clicks.

>>28152

>Alcohol related recipes

>risotto

Wine isn't necessary to make risotto.

>>28153

no, but it will give a quality boost if you use it

is this never-going-to-make-a-real-game-shit-programmer-anon?

>>27934

>If the game flops it should still make around 5k sales on steam for 15bucks, from which I will receive about 10 per copy, 50000 bucks would cover 3 years of development easily

HOOOLY SHIT you are delusional

>>27934

>>28170

Through Steamspy I discovered you can make shovelware and still get 3000 sales.

I'm personally making a 5 dolla game and hoping to get back 10K for a slightly shitty game.

>>28171

that's surviorship bias; you're only seeing the games that find success and overlooking the bulk of the games that don't make it through greenlight. at least read the wiki for it if you haven't heard of the term before.

also the companies that make shovelware don't specialize in making games, they specialize in marketing games to the type of people who buy shovelware, which is basically a different industry.

this article I spent two minutes finding probably isn't perfect either but it's closer to what you can expect at 57% of indie games making less than $500.

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/221630/6_key_points_from_the_2014_Indie_Salary_Report.php

you should definitely still make your game, just don't plan on making money from it.

>>28173

> look at the massive success Stardew Valley is,

there are tons of games like it and most of them failed because >le comfy farming sim :^) is not a niche a lot of people want

even stardew valley made a lot of sales but not many people play it anymore, they only bought it for the waifus and emoticons

>>28180

because those who failed are RPG maker crap with "muh deep story" and close to no gameplay

they are glorified VNs, my game focus on gameplay above everything, thats what people seek, if you check the negative reviews in these games this is the main complaint also "not enough content"

>>28181

>>28173

>>28180

Don't be a dumbass. Stardew valley was almost huge loss and then went viral because of waifushit

>well, flappy birds was a huge success so my (MOBILESHIT) should be popular too

>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-ut goat simulator was a huge success so my (GOAT GAME) should be popular too

>Stardew valley was yuge so my (AUTISM SIMULATOR) should be popular to

CookingAnon do you need art? I can into vector graphics.

>>28187

btw if you can export files in .xaml it would be perfect since im using WPF right now

Just have to finish some more stuff before this release:

miso soup [dashi stock, miso, tofu, seaweed] + fish, seafood, veggies, mushrooms (soup)

butter recipe (raw)

soy milk (raw)

sauerkraut (special pickled food)

>>28241

oh nice, right now i can't test it because im at work, i will check it after work

looking pretty good

but now that i think about it, i don't know if Unity accepts vector images in .xaml (i will switch from WPF to Unity when i finish this demo), i have to check that too later

>>28262

There will be slimegirls, still going to decide what you can and cannot do with them depending on how much I can implement, at least until I finish the planned features

And this is my dream, making a game was my dream since I was 7, I won't give up no matter what, only death will stop me, and if I die I will haunt a PC and finish it by willpower alone

Oh and vector drawfag if you are there, how much would you ask to work fulltime on my icons? (got some money right now and need 160 of them)

And can you draw qt3.14?

I'm currently idea guying for a game like this, but takes place in a Wild West setting. Looks like this game might actually be better though, so I'll hold off on it.

Any artists wanting to contact me please send an email to everydaylifedev@gmail.com with at least one sample icon 64x64 or bigger

>>28330

>>28335

Ayy, I'm drawing up concepts for a wild west game too, but it's more meant to be an action shooter. It's good to see people care about the genre.

>>28434

>>28435

just to inform you folks: im currently on vacation, so development is being slowed to a crawl until february

i planned to do more here, but developing on a tiny laptop is fucking horrible, im also playing some vidya, which i haven't done in quite a while

>>28446

Good luck! I suddenly remembered this existed and came to check in on it. I'm going to start working on my first second real project tomorrow as I have a few free hours.

where are my updates

reeeee

>>28505

OP here, just to inform you guys im still alive and didn't give up, im still traveling and will be back to work both day work and gamedev on the 8th this month

Taking a break from programming to make a few assets, since im quite rusty will take a day or two to show something more impressive than a bunch of grey rectangles

>>28683

How do you plan to unwrap all this stuff before texturing? Wouldn't it be easier to make individual segments that you'll be later able to snap together by vertices and reuse in other buildings? I mean, I see you're ambitious, but it seems like that will be a bitch.

>>28670

>Im going to buy assets in the unity store

Are you looking at 3D models for food and stuff?

>>28706

Well, what are you looking for, specifically?

>>28708

food... and stuff?

I wonder if i should make materials on Blender, or just use simple ones to mark areas and make them on Unity instead, im afraid Unity won't import them well and i will have to replace it anyways

Hello Anon, i know i know it's early but i could help with translations to Portuguese. Will it have multilanguage support?

>>28750

Yes, but i don't need much help with that one

Im a huehue myself

unless you mean pt-Portugal

Still all help is welcome, i will drop the language files here when i get to that part (will take quite a while)

>>28751

how do i contact you?

>>28752

everydaylifedev@gmail.com

>>28789

I enjoy watching this progress, it inspires me to continue on my own game. Keep it up Anon!

>>28792

Believe in me that believes in you!

>>28794

>TTGL was a decade ago

Struggling a bit with Unity, will have it working by the weekend

>>28916

Thanks brah

Im betting everything on this project, i can't wait to reach the point i will be able to drop my shitty job and focus on this 100%

It`s been 7 months and your game is still just a menu.

Where do the 3d buildings fit in?

This seems like a browser game. Are you sure Stardew Valley is your competition?

Why 3D when your competition is the great looking 2D Stardew Valley?

Harvest Moon/Rune Factory sucked in 3D, pixel art is so much better.

It also doesn't seem like you're very good at 3d modeling if you took 2 months to complete a building.

forget about "fables of laetus", sounds generic and uninspired. Microsoft won't let you use "fables". Stick to everyday life

>>28972

The graphic level you're aiming is pretty high (botw and the witness), it'd also require a godly artist.

>>28973

My brother is helping on this part, he is currently making a terrain system with BotW grass, the scale of the game is also much smaller than BotW

We will get close to it for sure

>>28974

Why add grass now? Add it later, it's just cosmetics.

Just get him to make a flat patch of land where you can put your inn and recreate the menus into the game.

That inn looks like it belongs in a very big city. It also needs two more buildings connected to it, apparently (weird decision). Any plans for the rest of the city?

>>28975

He is making a system that places props automatically based on the terrain material/biome

He will sell the system on the Unity store when its done

The center of the town will have taller buildings, in the game lore the settlement was planned to be a bigger city, but they lost most of the population.

Made a blog for the normies when im ready to launch the demo

I will still post here more though

http://fablesoflaetus.com/

>>29012

>hand holding as means of procreation

ABSOLUTE MADMAN

Added lore for Humans, Fae and Dracari, check the blog, this sunday im posting about the 26 elements im not kidding

>>29135

That goblin bellow is actually pretty cool. I like the spike eyebrows. The goblin (or orc?) on the right could be some commander/chief.

>>29135

heh, that was quite the read anon, not quite subtle, but entertaining to read nontheless.

>>29015

>Can't connect

Thanks

>>29173

strange, the maintenance was yesterday, it is working just fine for me.

Implementing the last jobs (which required integration with the cooking system)

In two weeks or so i should be dropping a somewhat playable version

Then i will start working on getting sounds, pretty UI, save/load, title screen, options and difficulty settings

I BELIEVE IN YOU

Just remembered this existed!

I'm going to read the thread, since I haven't this summer, but would you mind posting a summary of what progress you've made in the past several months? Summaries of my work always make help me.

>>29358

I finished both the cooking system and the faerie village which got so feature creeped, it became a game on its own im now doing the finishing touches for the release of this standalone demo, stuff like a main menu, options panel, save/load and game over/victory

For detailed every week progress check the blog, i make a report every friday: http://fablesoflaetus.com/

friday update is up and shit

Fuck just noticed the popups and tooltips were not recorded, im using window recording on OBS studio, can't figure out how to make them show

>>29400

>im using window recording on OBS studio, can't figure out how to make them show

Window recording is optimized to only care about the window contents or something, you have to use display recording. Or just use shareX or something.

>>29402

oh thanks, gonna give it a try

>>29402

Did not work, but whatever

Friday report is online!

https://fablesoflaetus.com/report14/

The game has 5 basic initial setups/difficulties

They are customizable and users can make their own starter setups

>Sandbox: 6 starter faeries, max resources, infinite of all foods with max quality and refreshing freshness every morning

>Easy: 6 faeries, plenty starter resources, infinite water, bakingpowder and salt. Plenty gain, fruit and spices to start with

>Normal: 5 faeries, plenty starter resources, infinite water, bakingpowder and salt, good amount of starter grain and veggies

>Hard: 4 faeries, some starter resources, infinite water, and salt, some starter grain

>Lunatic: 3 weak faeries, very low starter resources, infinite water, and salt, small portions of starter grain, also only one starter builting

New PC arrived! Transfering (almost) all my stuff to the new PC

Then i will resume the translations, there won't be a lot of interesting progress this week.

nothing much to report, finishing to translate some files i forgot and fixing bugs

11 days to release

My artist is getting a visit from hurricane Maria, so the main screen won't be ready soon

Big problem, my house's power grid is fucked, phone battery is low

Won't be able to do this Friday's update

Everything is alright, well almost everything, we have replaced everything that burned in the power spike, back to development, i will work a bit extra so there shouldn't be any delays because of this.

Alpha release

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0AmP3jVSfMheTJRSGJINTBxRjg

please tell me how much my minigame sucks so i can make it better

I'll try out the demo when I get home in a few hours and let you know what I think

>>29692

Thanks man, the links should still be up for the old version (1.00), the 1.10 will be done in 10 or so days

All feedback is welcome

>>29693

Two immediate and minor things I've noticed are that a building should be able to tell you what it does without being crewed, the action button is greyed out when empty.

Additionally when double clicking on an item to get a context menu (I suggest changing to right click) it would be great if the menu disappeared if you clicked somewhere else instead of forcing you to click quit.

Additionally I had fairies get sick and had no idea #1 how to determine which were sick and #2 how to get culture to get a hospital.

Oh shit i missed the thread Aniversary, well its 1 year and 3 days old

>>29695

Unless i forgot to add it i remember the buildings having tooltips, im sure i added tooltips to the action button too

I have added the context menu suggestion to the TODO list, will be done on v1.10

If your food reserves are empty (the food resource bar) the faeries starve and get sick, they can also get sick through events (plagues and invasions), these give a warning and show on the log

>>29697

>Unless i forgot to add it i remember the buildings having tooltips, im sure i added tooltips to the action button too

There is a tooltip over the action button yes, and over the name it tells you what attributes it uses, but the former only works when the building has fairies in it.

>If your food reserves are empty (the food resource bar) the faeries starve and get sick, they can also get sick through events (plagues and invasions), these give a warning and show on the log

Wait so is sick a binary thing for your village? Your village is sick/is not sick? I assumed it was a status a single or multiple fairies held.

Also I just noticed I said 2 things in my prior post and listed 3. Sorry about that.

>>29698

I started the demo up again to doublecheck I wasn't wrong about the action button tooltip (I wasn't) and came up with some more suggestions.

You should probably be able to cancel "Tasks" on the day you give them, so if you're going through your buildings and realize you need something further down more after you have already started say, a hunt that turn, you should be able to cancel it.

The bar on the side of the building getting a tooltip would likely be helpful too.

Damn bro, you're a machine.

I'm working on an idle type game I intend to put on steam as well. I'll be following the thread and hoping for frequent updates on your game and your experience with the whole process.

>>29701

>You need Faeries working on the building for the action to be available.

Yes, and a tooltip to tell you what the action, that youcan't currently use, would be useful.

>No, sickness is individual, the faeries who are sick have a red face like pic related

OK, I suspected that but could not find anything to confirm it. Some written feedback (tooltip on hovering over the portrait?) would make it much more clear.

>I will have to think a lot to check if adding a cancel button won't open the window for a ton of exploits

Perhaps have cancellation be an option only for things that don't give you anything instantly?

>Added the tooltip to the sidebar to the TODO list, anything specific you expect from it?

Feedback on what exactly different percentages does, and a breakdown of how much each fairy contributes.

e.g.

>Modifies how much produce you get from the great harvest. Mia 40% Toyota 15% Hiroshima 32%

>>29703

Oh, i just noticed the tooltips do not show on disabled buttons, sorry i will find a solution for this

Notes taken for everything else, i will improve the faerie tooltip

I just noticed i forgot to answer about how to get culture for >>29695

The best way to increase culture is opening a school, but theater also gives a ton of culture, apothecary, atelier and workshop give a bit too

>>29705

Mentioning somewhere that schools give culture would be useful. I don't think it was in the tooltip but I might be wrong.

>>29706

It is on the building tooltip, not on the Acttion tooltip, the culture development is passive as long as there are faeries working on the building

>|School|

>Trains mental attributes, develops culture, prevents sickness and accidents

>|Lecture Faerie|

>Permanently increases the mental attributes of a Faerie.

The way WPF handles popups opened by double click is glitched as fuck, im struggling to make the autoclose (when clickling outside) work without bugging it

It seems like the entire window loses focus permanently if the popup loses focus, but its working for all other popups, i also switched all double click popups to open on right click, and the previous right click tooltip (which split food stacks) is now the only one that opens on double click

>>29708

I watched some videos on promotion for indie games and one of them said to create a page on gamejolt and itch.io. Have you done this or can you say anything more about it? I browsed gamejolt for a bit and it seems to have a decent userbase and the competition isn't so bad. Maybe 10% of the games have something going for them in terms of originality or style.

Also you have a good taste in sound effects from what I've seen on the webms. Juice all that shit up. Audio is 33% of a game I think and satisfying feedback another 33%. Animate and put satisfying small sounds on everything that matters.

>>29709

I will make some vids as soon as i finish the last feature headpats and make the Steam version

The 2 main songs are custom made, i paid a good buck for them to make sure i would have a comfy OST, only the gameover music is one of these you can use for free i found online

The sounds are almost all edited versions of public domain sounds

>>29718

heck yes

IT ONLY TOOK 2 MONTHS TO GET THIS SCREEN

>>29735

logo is horribly low-res, can't you see it?

>>29739

im fixing it right now, just need to remember the name of the font i used

>>29744

Could you try a version with everything overlaid on top at like 15-20% bigger? Name, logo, menu, all slightly bigger. Opinion: Also, try a version with everything off center, like use the rule of thirds. Yours is currently reading as way too symmetrical.

>>29744

Aliasing...

>>29746

i tried a few other configurations, but i personally like this one more

>>29748

i can't find out how to do it in WPF, the Unity version will be better

>>29744

The background image looks great, so great job if you drew it, but the logo needs some aliasing. It needs to look a bit smoother.

Got accepted on steamworks! Steam version confirmed for November 31th!

>>29773

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf1DkBQRQj4

>>29776

Thanks, but i like the light gradient and the shadows i got on mine

I will get my artist to fix the title up later

1.10 launch today, after i squash a few final bugs

>>29839

It's a cute game, but I'm completely lost. All I ended up doing was giving each of the fairies a good head pat each day and then making random shit in the kitchen. How do you add fairies to each section of the village? I thought maybe you clicked and dragged them over, but that's apparently not how. Also, when I tried that it played the "Nuh-uh-uh!" sound like nuts.

>>29879

Drag them into the building slots, but if the faeries are angry or too tired they will refuse to work

If you spent too many days without giving them a job they probably didn't produce anything and are starving

You can feed them by double clicking food and choosing "Feed Faeries"

>>29839

Do you have a brief list of statistic interactions somewhere? I feel like this is more an issue of my ignorance than anything else, but I can't figure out what's causing 'Amenities' to drop whenever I choose to give food to fairies. I thought it might be because I was giving them failed or low quality foods at first, but it seemed to lower even when I gave them something well made.

As for bigger issues, for some reason I'm not getting any sound at all, I'm using win 7 os and it's not showing the game as outputting audio on any channels at all, the audio files all seem to be there and play normally otherwise, but not through the game.

Also:

The 'tutorial tips' buttons don't seem to function correctly, one (or sometimes both?) appear highlighted and clickable, after clicking either button it becomes greyed out and unclickable without making the other button clickable until the menu is re-opened.

I somehow made a corrupted save file. No idea how at this moment, but some things that might have triggered it were: two buildings completed at the same time and the first building displayed '120% completion'; made some very weird food items that I don't remember clearly (though it doesn't seem to be lack of an item icon that causes the crash, I checked if that might be the cause but I was able to load another save normally with 'no icon available' food items).

Looking further into this, it's probably the buildings, normally it's impossible to start a second building while one is already in progress, but immediately upon loading a save with a building in progress it becomes possible. If you save and reload at that point, the second in-progress building will disappear, but if you continue playing without saving and loading it can go over 100% completion. I haven't checked it out exhaustively and I've been unable to reproduce another broken save, but I was able to make multiple buildings complete that started at the same time by saving and loading after one of the two completed, then moving one day forward (i.e. first building completes, second at 100%+ > save/load > one complete and one incomplete building at 100% > next day > two complete buildings). I went to test this further in sand-box and it seems the 'build' icon only appears available for a second on sandbox and easy before greying out as it should, it occurs on all other difficulties though.

There are some other small things I've noted but you might already be working towards getting some of these things done:

- It would be nice to be able to use the enter key for confirmation when splitting ingredients, it's kind of awkward to enter a value and then go back to the mouse for confirmation, more keyboard support in general would be a great feature. Additionally, it might be good to have the stack split pop-up appear whenever you drop a stack onto the table, since you need to specify amounts for just about every recipe, but perhaps it's a stylistically choice to have to take out the amount you need manually rather than automatically being asked to select quantity.

- Are you planning to make recipes obatinable in-game? I'm not very good at cooking, but I often have difficulty guessing at what processes have been abstracted and what processes haven't been even for simple recipes. Adventure bar story might be a good example of this, where you often get one recipe which shows you how they went about abstracting the cooking process for a particular type of dish and leave you to guess at what you can do by changing key ingredients, but on the other hand adventure bar story had some very extreme abstractions when it came to a lot of its recipes. Either way, with the depth of the recipes in this game it's more a matter of me being unable to cook than it is about the mechanics of making the food.

I think I'm forgetting some other small thing, but I might have to add it in later if I remember what that was.

Anyway I'm liking where the game is at now but I am a bit concerned about your profit projections, I don't think it's unfeasible to make a reasonable return on something like this, but you'll probably have to dip into the gaiafag autist crowd in order to bring in 4 digits worth of sales on a game this mechanically focused. Consider that you might need to put some really big numbers that continue to get bigger in somewhere if you want to make more sales without dumbing down the game, although frankly I'm much more in favour of practical numbers. Distinct level-up thresholds and notifications are a big factor in appealing to simpler crowds.

>>29881

if you give them raw ingredients or food with overall value (the top score in the dish evaluation window) lower than 50 they will lose amenities because you forced them to eat something that tastes bad

did you try to increase the volume in the options? sounds is default at 50%, music 20%

if it still doesn't work i have no idea what is going on since i started developing the game on windows 7 too, check if you can play the individual sound files in the game folder

If at least one tip is disabled the "enable all" button unblocks, if at least one is enable the "disable all" unblocks

nice find on the build button, its a bug indeed, you should only be able to build one at a time, i will fix it next version

i will add keyboard support to the split stack popup, but i won't call it on drag since some times you just want to drag stuff quickly into the table to cook leftovers fast

At first i was going to add recipes as rewards for exploration and expedition (outpost building), but decided to leave them all there so users could get started on the cooking faster

The secret to a high score is balancing the tastes, keep them all (except for Savory that has no limit cap, and Spicy/Minty which cap at 40) as close as you can to 60, except for certain recipes, like Fruit Jam, where any salty taste lowers the scores

Each character in the game will have a different function to evaluate the taste, there may be characters who are not bothered by super spicy food, others will not tolerate sweets, etc... By the way, the Faeries have no hard cap on Sweet taste, you can go ballistic on the sugar when cooking for them, even if the score will be lower because the main character thinks its too sweet

Thank you very much for all feedback i will work on improving the game, and will release a new version soon

Also, don't build the Pet Pen, just found out about a crash on the Tame Pet button

Oh, and don't worry about profit, as long as i can eat and pay bills i will be happy to keep deving

Once the game goes from 2 features to a full 3D harvest moon/rune factory-like game people will flock to it, since the market for this kind of game on PC is not being supplied

I didn't expect Everyday Lite to attract people since its more of a proof of concept also a proof that i can actually dev something instead of promising shit on a kickstarter and never deliver anything It was not designed to be fun, just to show the depth of the features the final game will have. The final game will be designed to be fun above everything, don't worry

>>29890

I don't think this wheel is accurate, but thanks anyways

Hi, I really enjoyed reading your thread. Here's a few thoughts:

The art is pretty bad, it's like a few different artists with VERY DIFFERENT ART STYLES were involved, but I'm guessing it's not final. The whole thing looks weird by itself and would look even weirder inside a 3D farming sim. How are you going to do this, by the way? Is the game going to launch this menu in a separate window? Are you going to rebuild the menu in 3D? As in: Walk your character to the kitchen?

Why isn't the kitchen a building? Is it a magic fairy dimension?

This is barely playable. Was there supposed to be a tutorial? I tried starting a new game but none showed up.

>>28111

This is very concerning. Why would you create so many methods that seem to do pretty much the same thing? You seem to be pretty new and programing and shouldn't start with such a complicated first project

You claim your game has detailed cooking, but that's a lie. Have you ever cooked? You don't just dump every ingredient together and "cook" it. Most dishes are cooked in several different stages. You can't just throw potatoes and meat on the frier to get steak and fries. COOKING MAMA is more realistic than your game.

The fact that you're using grams doesn't help either. Not because of the metric system, but because recipes usually usually say "half a cup of flour" instead of god knows how many grams.

>>28033

This is concerning as well. It's been almost a year and all your brother did was grass. The 3d world should've been a priority. Just get a character walking around in a 3d world and build on top of that. That would be a real proof of concept, not this. Instead you spent a lot of time with this Lite thing that will have to be recreated in unity.

>>28643

What is this? why did you make 3d buildings when there isn't a 3d world to put them in? There seems to be a serious lack of focus.

Sorry if I am a bit harsh, but it seems other people pointed some of these stuff out and you ignored them.

>>29896

Feedback is always welcome, thanks for taking the time

As for the first point, which part of the art is bad? the icons? the title screen? its all made by the same guy, his art is quite inconsistent because he is still learning

In the final game the player will not access this cooking menu you see in this demo, you will walk up to the oven, or the pot, or whatever you want to use, choose the ingredients and method (i will reform the cooking system to include preparation method so i can have different dishes that use the exact same ingredients), the player will be able to leave stuff in the oven or pot and leave the house to do whatever he wants, as long as he remember to return before the food burns

There will also be an option to speed up time keeping the character in the kitchen so the food doesn't burn if you don't mind losing a few in-game minutes/hours

I forgot to enable the tips when i uploaded this version, you go on options and enable them

All dish templates will be script based when i transfer it to Unity, instead of hard-coded methods (yes they do different things) for easy modding and transparency since you folks want to see them so much

Show me a cooking system that allows any combination of ingredients to have a result, and also allow using a finished dish as ingredient for other recipes, cooking mama doesn't do that

My system is all about custom recipes, the methods do not describe one exact way to make a dish, but all possible ways to so such a dish and transform the ingredient values to reflect that

My brother is making a whole terrain system, not simply grass, also he is working full time, so he can only dev a bit per week, im the only one living on my savings while i dev.

All progress is still progress, focusing on a single feature can be exhausting, i needed to stop programming a bit when i made the INN because i was drained and frustrated

Oh boy im finding more crashes, this is embarrassing

I will probably release a fix tomorrow or on the 13th, depends how long it takes to fix these

Ok fixed the crashes, im now adding the changes suggested and a few other details, the release might be delayed to tomorrow, need to test it more

>>29921

First time im playing your game, it looks promising, i have a couple of suggestions

>highlight recipes that can be cooked (from available ingredients) in the ingredient list

>fix the situational height shift when clicking on recipes (scroll to the bottom, then click on a recipe in the upper half, you won't be able to click again on the same spot to collapse the recipe)

>give more explanations in tooltips, what determines how fast the next faerie is born?

The game needs more onboarding / tutorials in general, but that kind of thing is obviously rare in early demos.

I found the cooking system to be very overwhelming with the amount of options i have right away, without really knowing what they effect. I think you should streamline this at least a little bit, as other anons said, ingredient control right down to the gram might be a bit too much.

I also found a typo:

<Chance of repelling invations (invasions)

>>29956

I'm no 3D man but looks cool anon.

>>29956

>>29968

>>29964

Is your main character a shota, and if not, why not?

If yes, where can we help development?

>>29970

Its an adult man, but multiple protag choices are planned and will be done after the main features are done

Next protagonist will be a girl, but a shota for third is not a bad idea, there will be plenty onee-sans for that nice /ss/

>>29972

The face will be drawn, pokemon/megaman legends style, but this is useful to adjust the neck, thanks

>ctrl+f

>guild wars

>no results

Okay so since no one asked this yet, are you planning on replacing those food item icons that are ripped directly from Guild Wars 2 at some point? It might go unnoticed for a time but I don't think you'd want to risk any legal bullshit with whatever that developer is (arenanet or something?)

>>29996

I did it several months ago, look

>>29839

>>30012

Looking good - I'm guessing the pants are a single model? If so, you should mark the seam along the side of the pant legs - it'll make the UV map more consistent (you can see the seam around where the underwear is)

>>30013

Every piece of cloth is an object, im parenting them all on the same rig together with the body

I marked the seams of the pants as close as possible to the way i did on the body

>>30015

oh, i see, i was so worried about how it was deforming that i forgot to check if the texture was good

>>30018

Shoes should be the easier of the two - basically just 100% weight along the foot bone and simpler to model

>>30023

the feet has 3 bones, it bends, im almost done with the boots, but since they are cowboy boots they go very high up, i will have to change the pants to give the option to have a boot over them, maybe with shape keys

>>30018

For the belt you might want to keep the uv's together into big strips to reduce texture seams instead of cutting it up like that.

>>30037

i was actually thinking of throwing all textures away and work with pure materials on Unity... but i will first test if they look good

Steam launch!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/759800/Everyday_Lite/

Had to redo the rig because of a problem in the shoulders, im now remaking the weight painting in the pants because they got fucked during the rerigging

>>30012

You may want to be weary about your shoulder topology because it will deform badly with how its setup. May not matter much if the character is tiny in comparison to the screen but just be weary of shoulder distortions when rigging. The arm to torso topology should not be at right angles. It should be one long curved line.

>>30077

I already had to redo it once, it bends alright now

How many times do I need to go all out with my dream game before it doesn't turn to ashes in my mouth 2+ years into development and I scrap it all and start again?

>>30110

Simple: never give up

Its working for me at least

Fixed a few bugs, version 1.21 is up on steam