No.417401 [View All]
Elves. Know them. Love them. Whichever you are talk about them.
How should they be? How should they not be? Best versions? Worst versions?
You can include plenty of elves. That includes the likes of sidhe/fair folk/whatever.
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No.423543
>>423470
>suffering from hubris and superiority complex
It's already been mentioned how that's a meme propganded by those who despise the upper-class(whites) and want to invoke that when they write elves as being haughty. Well, I think at first it just came from a desire to "balance" elves, because a race of long-lived beings learning from their mistakes is too mary-sue, but (((certain people))) saw an opportunity to push their adgenda.
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No.423556
Only cucks, edgelords, waifuniggers, lolbertarians, and cuckservatives complain about humans being important in fantasy. They all praise noble savages and/or space elf waifu factions.
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No.423561
>>423543
I fail to see your point, why do you equal non-human meme race to real white people?
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No.423563
Elves should be fickle and whimsical from being jaded after living for centuries. They should no concept of good or evil, at least not the way we understand it. An elf might help a group of lost adventurers, but that same elf might also delight in playing tricks on local villagers, or stealing and murdering human babies. They wouldn't see any of those things as right or wrong, just as whatever struck their fancy at the time. Their perspective should be totally alien, almost like the way some humans think of dogs or cats as just short lived creatures that exist for our amusement.
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No.423657
>>423561
No use explaining if you’re going to argue semantics
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No.423672
>>423563
So you're saying they should be Austalian?
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No.423998
>>423455
>All the things that make humans special in real life are a prerequisite for a fantasy race to even be a race and not just an npc monster species.
Does it include being an omnivorous endurance hunter with high poison resistance? Because that's kind of uncommon.
Most fantasy races have troubles adapting to more than 1 biome.
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No.424045
>>423998
>ominvorous
Elves, dwarves, halflings, and orcs are usually ominvorous. And no, being a vegitarian does not make you a herbvivorenot that elves should be vegitartians in the first place,. Having a digestive system specifically tailored for eating plants does.
>endurance hunter with high poison resistance?
Not sure how you define high poison resistance, but all of the previously mentioned races except halfings have around equal or greater. endurance and resistance to poison that humans have.
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No.424478
>>423563
What you have described already exists and has a name. Fairies.
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No.424480
>>423455
You could flavor the different races as different species or subspecies related to homo sapiens. IRL homo species lived alongside each other for a long ass time. Homo erectus and homo floriensis were around very recently all things considered, and could respectively be thought of as similar to orcs and hobbits.
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No.424498
>>424480
>implying we are not living on the planet with completly different "human" species right now
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No.424603
>>424498
Khoisans look much more human than niggers honestly
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No.424636
>>424603
Apparently they're pretty chill and have good relations with Afrikaners.
If we're speaking different species then abbos are the first thing that comes to mind.
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No.424661
>>424498
Anything in the genus homo would be human, and none of the variations today are outside the homo sapiens species. At most you could argue for a subspecies differentiation. It's not even agreed upon that neanderthals were a separate species instead of a subspecies.
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No.424746
>>424661
By the same rules we apply to other animals, Neanderthals can't be a different species. There are fertile people alive who have Neanderthal DNA.
That being said, the science has been out since the 1980s. There are at least seven distinct subspecies of human different enough genetically that if thy were any other species we'd treat them as different subspecies.
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No.424751
>>424661
Neanderthals had small pecs for a race of superstrong guys.
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No.424764
>>424751
It's all in the core, baby.
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No.425008
>>424746
>they are still teaching this outdated by a century definition of species in grade schools
Go be a marxist somewhere else.
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No.425009
>>425008
Show me the peer reviewed science that disproves the definitions taught at university and I'll read it thoroughly. If not, go suck the biggest blackest aids-infected crack dick you can find.
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No.425015
>>417646
>#NotAllElves
Fuck your entire knifeeared kin, you dendrophiliac faggot.
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No.425016
>>425009
>Show me the peer reviewed science that disproves the definitions taught at university
Intefertility is not even a thumb rule for species and genera at this point, retard. Almost all interspecial hybrids are perfectly fertile as long as they are in the same subgenus, most genera's different species produce fertile hybrids and there are numerous cases of intergeneric hybrids within the same tribe.
Ever heard of wholphins? They are fertile hybrids of two different subfamilies, Delphininae (dolphins) and Globicephalinae (niggerfish, false killer whale in specific), but you probably don't even know the significance of taxonomic ranks.
>>424746
>There are at least seven distinct subspecies of human different enough genetically that if thy were any other species we'd treat them as different subspecies.
That part was right and purplepilled but goddamn the first part was the most politically correct biologically illiterate platitude leftards love to spout to defend their "one race" rhetoric, that completely overshadowed the previous.
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No.425017
>>425016
You know any idiot can spend half an hour looking at Wikipedia to regurgitate nonsense. It doesn't make you right tho. Always check your sources.
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No.425018
>>424603
Probably due to teleonomical "progress" towards the human condition due to scarcity of resources and selective pressure towards humanist psychology while the rest of subsaharans remained in similar habitats as our closest extant no-homo relatives (chimps, bonobos, gorillas, urangutans and gibbons).
Like "reptile", "nigger" is not a taxon, it's an evolutionary grade. Abos for example are the most derived and genetically distinct from subsaharans out-of-Africa clade but they are still morphologically turbo-niggers.
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No.425019
>>425017
>You know any idiot can spend half an hour looking at Wikipedia to regurgitate nonsense
Still better than looking at you 5th rade textbooks, moron. Even your textbooks examples of infertile hybrids, the mules, are frequently fertile.
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No.425020
>>424480
>muh one race
Geographical barriers existed for a reason. Update your fucking cladograms.
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No.425031
>>425016
Taxonomy is shit. If the model isn't based off shared, heritable genomics percentiles, it is trash
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No.425057
>>425020
And what is this? A cladogram for fairies?
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No.425060
>>425016
>Intefertility is not even a thumb rule for species and genera at this pointt
Why not
>Almost all interspecial hybrids are perfectly fertile as long as they are in the same subgenus
Then maybe they aren't different species
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No.425061
>>425016
It seems like you'e deliberately defining species in a way that suits your own feelings.
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No.425062
>>425020
>Geographical barriers existed for a reason
Geological processes are more a "cause" than a "reason" unless you believe God sculpted the earth's surface or some shit. In any case, humans haven't been separate gene pools long enough to speciate. Especially considering most geographical barriers are quite porous and mixing still happened, just to a lesser degree.
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No.425078
>>425060
>Then maybe they aren't different species
It's much more likely that you are retarded than False Killer Whale and the Bottlenose are the same species.
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No.425079
>>425062
>Especially considering most geographical barriers are quite porous and mixing still happened, just to a lesser degree.
Not as porous as it is for species' complexes like the Pied Crow and the Carrion Crow or the Paregrine and Barbary falcon.
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No.425080
>>425060
>Why not
Because, you fucking retard. Do you know any fucking species that isn't donkey or horse?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genetic_hybrids
Over half of the hybrids described are intergeneric, many of them fertile, and almost all intrageneric hybrids minus the equines are fertile.
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No.425082
>>425080
Stop being so mad. You're literally fighting with at least two, possibly three different people here. Some of whom are legitimately curious.
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No.425089
>>425082
I must apologize then to one or two people for mixing them up with a smartass faggot that can't admit that half his post was wrong.
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No.425100
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No.425101
>>425100
Those are not cute elves, those are Slav elves. They are several times more terrifying and hardcore than regular elves. Think FB Wood Elves, but with ideology instead of faggotry.
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No.425117
>>425089
Or you got so spergy in your first response that he just kept poking at you with a stick to see how bad you'd get.
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No.425160
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No.425164
>>425078
False Killer Whales are basically just large dolphins without a long snout, but whatever you say.
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No.425203
>>425164
False Killer Whales are literally nigger dolphins (and belong to a different subfamily).
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No.425207
>>425203
How the fuck does something manage to be a nigger nigger.
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No.425217
>>425203
And are genetically compatible with normal dolphins oddly enough.
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No.425227
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No.425234
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>>425207
By dinduin nuffin false-killer.
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No.425641
At its core an Elf is a
>blonde haired magical immortal
How the author chooses to interpret that says more about the author than the concept of Elf. The same way if an author wrote about
>giant fire breathing lizards
That happen to be noble savages living in forests and are opressed because of their superior sexual skills that steal all the women.
Nobody would say that dragons are fucked up, they would say the author is fucked up for using the concept of dragon to satisfy his noble savage fetish.
Whether you like it or not, people who were into fantasy have been historically creepy nerds and lonely catladies, and the western fantasy elf is just a reflection of that, as the range goes from a smoking hot fabio in tune with nature to a submissive porn doll begging for dick.
So now you have retards like ITT going on and on about how Elves are this and that, basing it on the ramblings of fat cheeto-encrusted fuckups from the 1970's.
It's like basing all your understanding of Vampires off Twilight and similar "hot vampire lover" novels then touting them as canon because "that's how everybody does them".
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No.426028
Wait. Since when were elves coded as asian?? This is the most confusing part of this whole thread for me.
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No.426033
>>426028
Bug-eyes by D&D design. Also AD&D DC Comics has an elven deity & his cleric take a liking to an asian chick, describig her as a more attractivr instance of 'her kind' So we know that elves pin for asians.
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No.426045
>>425641
this so much this
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No.426046
>>426028
Tolkien elves counting age since conception like East Asians do
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