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Chaos is getting a new dex with the ettera already included. Plus they're getting several new units and a new CSM box. With Abby getting a make-over maybe he will be less of an armless failure and actually win for once!
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No.413764
>Iron Warriors
Just take away their metal boxes.
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No.413767
>>413764
>metal boxes
THOSE COWARDS! THOSE FOOLS!
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No.413779
The new kayoss models are all looking pretty great, new guardsmen when?
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No.413799
>>413779
When they get a starter set featuring IG vs whatever. Honestly, if IG were ever given the opportunity I'm sure they would deliver. Hell, the ad mech are in two boxed sets! Could even throw a Knight in with the guard just to show that they too can use them. Not that they need them, especially if said set had a Leman Russ or a Basilisk.
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No.413802
>>413799
>The sister's rhino is smaller than the SM rhino.
>Land speeder is nearly as large as a BANEBLADE
>Drop pod is as tall as a fucking titan
The scale is fucked and I am conflicted.
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No.413828
>3 more days until new Emperors Children stuff
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No.413841
>>413802
>>The sister's rhino is smaller than the SM rhino.
What? Why wouldn’t it be? Space Marines are far larger than Sisters.
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No.413849
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>>413841
But all Rhinos are based on the same Standard Template Construct, and thus they all have the same proportions. Making a machine bigger is more complicated than just telling a computer "up all dimensions by 10%".
In any case, the rest of the image still features drop pods the size of a titan, Predators larger than a Baneblade and a guardsman that's 1,80m next to a 2m tall Space Marine that seems to be double the height of the guardsman. As the other anon pointed out, the proportions are a bit fucked up
>>413779
We'll know that's not how felinids look like... vid related.
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No.413860
>>413841
In fact the Sister's rhino is usually bigger than the SM.
How does one make such units without selling an arm and a leg for every kit?
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No.413861
>>413849
I always assumed the AdMech upscaled Space Marine vehicles from their STCs to begin with as the DAoT humans were not 8foot slabs of meat that required far larger buttons and chairs. STCs are more commonly blueprints and not .stl files on roids anyway.
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No.413864
>>413860
Ebay is your friend
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No.413867
>>413802
Its an old image, so its not going to be as acurate as something made today.
>>413860
Recasts. Or maybe they're a part of some community that has a collective bits bin and they just pur all their spares in there? I know those flagellants are just legs with guitar wire plus a bunch of other crap tacked on.
Also, theres gonna be new terminators.I really wished they would give CSM the chance to take HH stuff like Tartaros Armor, Cataprachtii and thunder hammers. Maybe even the chance to take the same squad types as well?
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No.413909
>>413867
New termies don't look all that different from the old ones, at least to my eye. Looks like it's mostly pose changes. Liking the new Dark Apostle and his helpers.
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No.413916
>>413867
>legion goes from burning religious texts to wielding religious texts that are eternally on fire
That's appropriately clever.
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No.413919
>>413909
It's purely pose changes.
>>413867
Really like the Dark Apostle and his helpers, just hope the fire is optional since it's a bitch to paint.
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No.413941
>>413919
If it's just pose changes, why bother? The old kit doesn't look that bad, especially compared to other, much older kits berserkers, eldar, most of the ork range
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No.413982
>>413941
Aside from some stylistic changes (curvy trim is in vogue now, apparently), look at the heads compared to the rest of their bodies - they're much smaller. Which probably actually means that the bodies are much bigger. I imagine they just didn't want termies to be manliest compared to the new power armour CSMs. I agree berserkers are a higher priority, but they're probably waiting to do a full Khorne release with Angron at some point.
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No.413983
>>413982
>manliest
*manlets, thanks spellcheck.
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No.413988
Gonna repost this from the other thread, 'cause it got lost, but Version 1.1 of Imperial Atomica is out. It's a system-agnostic splatbook for the FFG RPGs about nuclear warfare and postnuclear survival.
This update is mostly quality-of-life fixes, aiming to polish and rebalance some of the stuff I missed in version 1.1. It also includes a bunch of new gear, several new vehicles, a ton more art, and many other things besides.
You can find it at https://mega.nz/#!iqRh2IaT!SNPnk_9Sjsi62dozmDRf9ZD5l-ZHJsurh8iwKtaNNXI
or at https://www.mediafire.com/file/7x62r72s6o8i4gl/Imperial_Atomica_1.1.pdf/file
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No.413989
>>413988
Did you ever work on the irriadated steam thing.
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No.413997
>>413989
I sure did! It's in there, under "Underwater Blasts."
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No.413998
>>413997
Nice, that sure looks dope for a GM.
Good job anon.
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No.414008
>>413941
Well, if you hate model updates that are just pose changes then the new havocs will probably not be to your liking.
I did like how GW is giving Chaos rotor cannons, probably to make up for the fact they gave Primaris autocannons so CSM lose another unique thing to the loyalists. I will say that the old havoc models are barbaric monopose abominations, but I expected more than just an update to plastic. Most people just kitbash devastators anyway, so why not make a kit that's more like that? Two of each special weapon per box + combi-weapons and melee weapons/pistols for the sergeant.
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No.414033
>>414008
The new havocs actually look different though, it's more than just poses. I'm loving the way they look now. The termies still look the same, though the poses are definitely better, now that I've seen more of them.
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No.414034
>>413828
>It's fucking nothing
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No.414035
>>413941
>If it's just pose changes, why bother
Why not?
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No.414036
>>414035
Because the termie sculpts aren't that old, or bad looking. Like I said in the rest of the post, if it was one of the older kits, it wouldn't be so bad. If it was new berserkers, I'd be all over that shit.
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No.414037
>>414036
Someone already pointed out the scale is clearly different. If they weren't bigger, either they or the new CSM would look strange.
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No.414038
>>414037
Yeah, I got that, because the post immediately under mine explained that.
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No.414039
>>414038
Then you've gotten your answer like three times and you're just being pedantic and repetitive? Fuck if I know anon. Don't buy 'em.
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No.414040
>>414039
What the fuck are you talking about? I had already changed my mind by >>414033 when I said that they actually look pretty good.
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No.414050
>>414033
What's up with this new style of pauldrons ?
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No.414052
>>414050
I think it's to make them look more baroque assuming I'm using that word correctly or to play up the "Space Knight" angle, to make them appear ancient, so that they contrast with the more modern looking, tacticool primaris.
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No.414055
>>414033
Is that supposed to be a gatling bolter?
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No.414059
>>414055
In the upper left? I think it's supposed to be a rotor cannon.
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No.414060
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No.414064
>>414055
>>414059
Apparently it's a "Reaper Chaincannon".
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No.414066
>>414064
So it's a heavy bolter with double the shots but minus 12 inches? Have to see the points to see if it's worth taking.
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No.414073
hey fellas whats better to have in my list, the start collecting astra militarum box as renegades and heretics or a kitted out chaos land raider
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No.414077
>>414066
It's apparently 20 points for one, so double the cost of a heavy bolter for about 2.5x the shots
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No.414079
>>414073
If you're going to ally in R&H, only take Russes, as the army has no synergy with CSM and is an index only list with no advantages and plenty of weaknesses compared to every other army.
>>414077
>20 points
Fuck me, I forgot how expensive marine equipment could get. Not sure I would consider it worth it.
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No.414120
Storytime.
>Go to LGS to see wtf this 'new' Killteam bullshit is. Was invited by a friend who wants to get his first game in with his AdMech killteam.
>He's been trying to get me to pick up a paintbrush and take a crack at my Orks ever since I moved to town last year after being gone for 3 years. He knows I, and my Warboss, miss our Boyz.
>Been kinda depressed since I moved here. It's complicated.
>This invite is his latest friendly hand to get me out of my apartment
>Fuck it, fine. I'll try not to bitch too much about how 40k has changed since I played. I do this all the time whenever we talk 40k.
>Got no models, just want to watch
>Killteam rep approaches me "Hello anon, you here for some Killteam?'
>"Got no Orks with me to play man. Just wanna watch.'
> Kid half my age in the wingers says, "I got some orks you can borrow, anon! More than enough for a 100 point list."
>I feel the grognard grumble in me. "I don't know, bud. Haven't played since 6th ed. I'd be making you wait while I build my list."
> Kid: "That's okay. Have you read the Killteam rules?"
> Me: "Skimmed them a while ago. Got a basic understanding but still a lot I don't know."
>Kid as he slides his box full of Orks at me, "I can teach you."
>The grognard in me grumbles, "How many games you got under your belt?"
>Kid: "I've played ten games, and the rep can help us if anything weird comes up."
>Pick up the first ork in the box that catches my eye. It's a Nob. Kid gave the whole box of orks a really shitty paint job but when I squint at them I can see some potential in the kid.
>Looking at the shitty nob sparks off an old memory. The nostalgia hits me like a kareening trukk with a redlining engine. I hear the distant echo of a WAAAGH building up somewhere in my mind.
>Great Gork and Mork but do I miss my Boyz...
>Start trying to suppress the nostalgia.
>That just makes it worse. I can see the rows of raised shootas (I ran a DAKKA heavy Ork army back in the day), and the quiet laughter of sneaky gits working their way through cover (with a full unit of Kommandos).
>I remember, I can run Kommandos in Killteam.
>I can see Snikrot's grin flash under his glowing NVG optics.
>Damn it.
>Me: "Alright. Give me some time to wrestle with the rulebook and I'll whip up a quick list. Can we skip selecting specialists to keep it easy?"
>Kid: "Yeah."
>Looking at the options available to orks. Lamenting the lack of any good armor saves.
>Zog oy miss me 'Ardboyz.
>Come to think of it, first time playing 40k of any kind in... 4, 5 years?
>Am I doing this right?
Kept it simple. Two Burnas, a Spanna with Rokkit Launcha, Boss with Big Choppa (Kombi-Skorcha), three Kommandos, Three Shoota Boyz, and a Grot.
I had no idea if that was a good list or not but I found it funny how my ork shootas were getting more hits than his Black Templars (had an Auspex-assisted Sergeant and a Sniper). We ended the game at a friendly tie on turn 4 as I had to suddenly leave. I have some gripes about some things - like not being able to chase a zoggin' git who withdraws from melee, or not being able to fire my zoggin' slugga at a grot while advancing... But it was still fun. The Orks got the first kill but I think if the game went on long enough he would have won out for points.
But zog me, those 6+ armor saves are a real pain. Good thing my Kommandos were there to suck up most of the ranged attacks. He had a really hard time trying to get a bead on them.
...Well, I guess I better break out those Ork Boy sprues that have been sitting in my storage bins since 2011.
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No.414122
>>414120
Follow up question. I noticed the kid's Orks had larger bases. Like his boyz were on bases I normally see used for terminators. What the fuck is up with that?
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No.414125
>>414077
Too bad there's only one of them in the box, so you need to buy at least 4 boxes to field a squad.
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No.414126
>>414122
Nah, they're on 32 mm now. 40 would've been even worse. They've been doing lots of this stupid rebasing shit ever since the primarine retards came out. And just check out the new Ork buggies, with the ridiculous bases they come on.
Who cares though, no one is rebasing 200+ boyz, so it should only affect new players. I know any new model I get is going straight to 25mm for the sake of uniformity.
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No.414189
Are Catapractii terminators worth taking for HH? They aren't fast, but they're durable as fuck. I was thinking of gearing them up for shooting. But they can't overwatch? So are they only good at melee? Or can they be used for dakka outside of IW and Ultras?
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No.414211
>>414125
>One chain cannon per box
>Only two Obliterators in the Shadowspear box, despite the minimum squad size being three
GW is getting tricky with it's jewery.
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No.414223
>>414211
They changed to datasheet to say minimum Obliterators is 2.
Why are bits shops always sold out? Can they not keep stock?
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No.414228
>>414211
>this
>something new
They would ban people from trading bits if they could and I bet they already tried.
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No.414239
Trisdekanon here. I'm working on adding Stand Battles to the FFG systems, God help me. Here's the first alpha draft. Only has 3 working Stands, but I've got plans for 24 more, and eventually rules for making new ones.
>but didn't Shas already do that in The Fringe is Yours?
Yes. It was a very limited, Necron-focused take on Stands. This aims to fill in the gaps.
>Why use premade OC do not steal Stands?
It's more fun that way, and it helps me nail down how to vaguely balance them. I'm going to write up, if not a full system for making new ones, then guidelines for how to go about doing so.
The update will also include Touhou and Metal Gear Rising content by my co-author.
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No.414241
>>414239
Stands, Touhou, and MGR? All in one? You're crazy, man. If I ever run Only War or Dark Heresy again, i'm totally using your stuff.
Did you ever finish that weeb weapons supplement?
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No.414261
>>414241
This is that weeb weapons supplement. Or rather it's what's going in the next release version of it.
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No.414299
>>414228
I, for one, embrace our new printing technology overlords. The time of GW's kikery is coming to a close just by bluestuff copies and those damned Chinese.
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No.414302
>>414189
You're going to teleport them or dump them out of a Spartan or Dreadclaw right? Just forget about footslogging them unless you really really want to play ultrafluffy DG.
The best loadout for 10 is probably going to be 2 guys with plasmablasters and fist, and the rest a mix of Volkite and fist/claw, maybe a chainfist or two. This gets you a solid mix of melee and ranged, so they can still be a threat after destroying their target, or on the way towards it, but make no mistake, dakka must never be their main role.
For pure melee you're better off with Tartaros, going all dual claws and chain/fist. Of course, at that point a transport is pretty much obligatory.
The biggest question though, is what legion you are playing and whether or not their special termies are more useful for your purposes.
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No.414310
>>414302
NL, so no special terms for me. Since I get easy deep strike, I'm thinking of going with that. If I need a transport I'll go with a Spartan. Otherwise its teleport or a dreadclaw for emergencies.
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No.414341
>>414310
If you're going Night Lords then get Tartaros with dual lightning claw.
Basically do what >>414302 says, but I would encourage you to go claw on as many as you can, it is both viable and fluffy for NL
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No.414375
Dark eldar codex is fucking shit.
>every single group or character
>specializes in fear, torture, sadism, fast attacks, raiding the Imperium, "cruel elegance", treachery
And now they dont even have orgies because its not pg14. No one does anything for fun and they all look the same with their stupid fucking hairdo.
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No.414418
>>414341
Yeah, they fit the fluff plus with the whole 'swoop in from the sides and slice them apart'-shtick for the NL as well. I guess I'll just get more Tartaros then. I'm still going to like Catapract armor
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No.414423
Update on the Stand Battles. I'm about half finished, and the rules for them are shaping up. The goal is to make each Stand kind of fuck with the game mechanics in unusual ways, like breaking up the turn order, providing a damage resistance system, or turning armour into a shareable resource.
I'm very much open to suggestions on any of the Stands that have no description. Got no fucking clue on what to do with Primo Victoria or Bangles or Hotel California.
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No.414428
SLAANESH IS BACK, BOYS!
>New Keeper of Secrets
>New sculpt for the Masque
>New Slaaneshi shrine terrain to compliment the Khornate one they previewed a few weeks ago.
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No.414440
>>413762
thinking of getting into 40k, what's a good starter purchase for 2-3 people?
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No.414442
>>414440
If you all chip in together you might be able to get a box of 6 Guardsmen.
Nah, try the starter box sets, they're the least jewish of the deals
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No.414444
>>414442
thanks. i know it's a meme that gw is jewish af so i thought i'd ask just in case those starter boxes were a scam.
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No.414449
>>414428
Look pretty good tbh
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No.414454
>>414449
That's a perfect Keeper. I hope it has head/arm options too.
The Prince is excellent, the Herald riding him looks a bit silly. Masque is meh, the other 1 is pretty goofy looking.
We need Emperor's Children Codex now.
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No.414460
>>414449
>>414454
Is the second model supposed to be a herald riding a mount? Wish they put more effort into the Masque, she was supposed to be the most favored of Slaanesh's daemonettes.
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No.414463
>>414449
>>414428
Wait what? This is Aids of Smegmar stuff? I thought slaanesh doesn't exist in that setting.
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No.414468
If GW was really jewy they could have turned Adeptus Titanicus into the Apocalypse game instead of 28mm 40k.
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No.414469
>>414463
>New Slaanesh stuff!
>New book!
<Sorry, book is for Shitmar only!
Blue Balled. Anyways, new Furries and a new monster.
>>414468
So you mean bring back Epic?
>>414440
The starter boxes are cheaper than getting the individual stuff or any of those "Start Collecting" boxes. Also you now have multiple starter sets to choose from. Since they come with the same rules, but for different armies, then you could easly buy two, then split them up. Whoever wants the Primaris marines will get the majority of shit though.
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No.414482
So when 40k is replaced with Age of Guilliman later this year will it also get softbanned by the hivemind?
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No.414483
>>414463
When the WHFB world blew up he/she ate all the elves because why not and this lead to it being pulled entirely into reality but this allowed it to be contained and chained up by Teclis and his brother.
They then kept it chained up in a wierd pocket dimension between the magical discworld realms and light and shadow in the same place Nagash sent the city of Shadespire. Now some of those steampunk dwarves, who of course ruin everything they touch, get an item called "The Mirror of the most vain" while plundering Shadespire and now they are being hunted down by the roaming cenobyte tribes of 'godseeking Hedoknights' that have been basically raised by daemonettes and keepers of secrets to be worshippers looking to free Slaanesh which is clearly going to happen as the big event as part of the years ongoing regression to make stuff for the most part, sigmarines aside, be more familiar to the fantasy stuff. They brought back skaven and the ghouls, grots and fireslayers are getting this shit recently and theres rumours after slaanesh of lizardmen.
Tomb Kings never ever.
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No.414500
I take it the new chaos miniatures are primaris scale ?
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No.414503
>>414483
Don't the elves still exist in the setting with the wood elves and marine elves? What other elf factions are there in age of sigmar?
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No.414506
>>414503
Dont try to understand, its retarded either way.
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No.414508
>>414503
The long and short of it is Sigmar rode the burning old world as a twin tailed comet through space, met this zodiac beast that lead it to these elemental discworlds where magic comes from. The souls disperesed using the life realms magic and were reborn. Some were such dominant personalities they retained complete continuity like Nagash, others were reborn as the same people and lead different lives but their personality lead to similar choices and an overall similar person all over again. But then a lot of the generic souls of the warhammer world just went native to each realm. Humans for example are industrial power houses in the metal realm but zealous bright wizards and witch hunters in the fire realm.
So some stuff carries on the same, Nagash raises the dead as skeletons in the exact same way so guess what skeletons are still just skeletons. Other stuff went through it and came out different or wrong. The Deepkin are an attempt by a reborn Teclis to pull the souls of elves out of Slaaneshes gut to remake the high elves but roughly 2000 years in the gut of the god of excess left its traumatic marks and they were pale and fearful of the light so fled to the ocean depths but their children are eyeless, pale albinoids with no souls so they raid fishing villages for souls and use sea based magic so the towns forget they were raided and the people who are stolen. Some high elves naturally reincarnated but they are this pheonix cult thats not been to expanded upon but are fewer in number whereas the deepkin are in oceans in all the realms.
Meanwhile there are Wood elves but most of them didn't reincarnate into mammalian life at all. In the realm of Life Allariel is the god of seasons and the antithesis -or some say counterpart- to Nurgle. Through her most wood elves were reborn as dryads, some with a half ghostly form growing out of bark and timber torso resembling their elvish roots. While some like Drycha Hammadreth are also back like that but kept their continuity but are extremely traumatised and little more than a berzeker.
and then the dark elves are litteraly a all female race of lamia and harpies after being trapped inside slaanesh the longest, they call themselves the daughters of khaine but nobody will be surprised when they turn out to be slaaneshi cultists down the line.
Basically some people are reborn and remember, some are reborn and keep their personality but dont and others are reincarnated as totally new people but might remember certain cultural touchstones like brightwizards or dwarven runes and not even know why. Bare in mind most of this is coming out with the second edition releases. That shitty "you got a beard wind your roll xD" 1st edition trash is completely off the table, theres now a 300 page history of what happened in the millenia between end time and soul wars, the 1st edition made it looks like house of M or something and sigmar snapped his fingers and whole new civilisations existed. Looking back it feels like they wanted a true reboot and due to deserved backlash worked it into a sequel instead. Love or hate the game the worldbuilding is much better in second because it actually has any. some of it like the magic in the realm of life being so strong at the edge it turns women into permanently self impregnating immaculate baby factories that give birth to new species of life go full on magical realm. Meanwhile "Sigmars greatest mistake" are turning into emotionless robots that wipe out human settlements because merely existing is the potential for chaos so guess what they are turning into the lawful evil everyone expected. Shocking huh?
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No.414512
>>414506
>>414508
Alright. I am gonan be honest, the only thing positive to come out of age of sigmar are how the marine elves exist now as a faction and shadespire. Some of the goblin, ork, and undead models look nice too, but that does not justify the old world being destroyed. The new orks look more in place in 40k than fantasy in my opinion too.
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No.414515
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>>414512
Actually believe it or not Orkz have kind of been left behind in Age of Sigmar. They just aren't very popular and as yet have no major updates for 2nd edition.
Meanwhile, and i do really like the nautical devilry of the Deepkin i think the Grots right now are a way better state than they were in the last edition of WHFB. Moonclan Grots, Spider worshippers, gargants and troggoths are all one large group that go into a frenzy when Da Bad Moon appears over a realm and causes a Gloomspite. They believe if they cause enough carnage they will catch the moons attention and hold it in place to cause 'The Everdank' which their Loonking has already done over a former Skaven city in the realm of metal. It makes everything mildewy, its twilight all the time, bugs explode from the ground along with forests of fungi which even explode from spores in human bodies.
It also helps Da Bad Moon itself is a massive cosmic asshole. Its eaten other moons because it was jealous of them getting worshipped, its saved towns of wood elves only to spit down loonrocks and kill them afterwards, he regularly invades the realm of chaos just to be an asshole. On the current map of the realms he is shown flying around the realm of slaanesh because "fuck you i'm the bad moon you can't tell me what to do" and nurgle finds him to be like a incorrigible nephew but tzeentch fucking hates him as he is the one element in the universe he has no control over.
Nobody knows where he comes from. Some say he is Gork or Morks head, a giant piece of cheese gorkamorka broke his teeth on, an egg laid by the spidergod and more.
All people really know is the bravest armies in the warhammer universe can stand against armies of undead or skaven just fine but still see a cresting asshole come over the horizon and go "aw shit lads, its the fucking bad man" and thats peak greenskin. He could show up in 40k and i would have on complaints.
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No.414518
>>414515
Even if some stuff is good, in general its a mess. Old world was an awesome place of grim adventures and good fun. New realms are cartoonish bullshit with no landmarks or important places. Its not a setting if you only have random armies in the middle of nowhere.
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No.414527
>>414515
I actual thought gorkamorka was a thing that was already created. So the bad moon is now a separate entity?
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No.414530
>>414482
I fucking hope not. The worst thing they could do is further fuck themselves. Or god forbid, merge the two settings into one game. That would be equivalent to putting a loaded gun into your mouth and pulling the trigger then asking; "Gee, I wonder why I died?"
>>414500
No, not quite. You can still use parts from the new kit with the old kit. They're still shorter than primarii. But at the same time they scaled them up, slightly. Which is pretty retarded.
>>414527
Yeah, its a new thing.
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No.414538
>>414482
>Resin production to cease by 2022
Forge World would be exempt from this, I assume?
Wouldn't want to lose out on Horus Heresy/Titan shekels
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No.414552
>>414460
it's a daemon prince + herald combo character, i think.
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No.414567
I don't want to sound pessimistic but when do you think GW will grimderp living saints?
I don't believe something so positive, good and heroic (that isn't space marine related) will be allowed last forever before some fuck ruins it. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.
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No.414569
>>414527
gorkamorka killed all the godbeasts and roaming predatory mountains are boring to fight so he left to find new battles. Da Bad Moon is theorised to maybe be some of his left behind power like when enough orkz get into a battle frenzy at once they crackle with green lightning called 'waaagh energy' but thats kind of lame and another reason they are the most unpopular army.
Right now its roughly like:
>Nighthaunts>Deepkin>Flesh Eater Courts>Gloomspite>skaven>nurgle>beasts of chaos>sigmarines>daughters of khaine>seraphon>ogres>khorne>tzeentch>slaanesh>fireslayers>khadaron overlords>high elves/pheonecium>orkz
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No.414581
>>414518
Actually it does have maps now. I strongly believe 1st edition was never meant to be a real edition at all and a massive filler stopgap to have something to sell the new models for before the actual game with rules for things like sieges and underground and naval combat and the like was finished because it was behind schedule.
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No.414638
Can anyone spot a git a copy of the Killteam rules?
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No.414645
>>414567
Have they not already done this with "Living Saints and the Legion of the Damned are daemons conjured from the worship of the Emperor and the fact that the Cadian pylons weakened Celestine and banished LotD is proof of that."?
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No.414648
>>414482
>Massive re-work on the 40k setting planned
>inb4 they actually do female Primaris Marines
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No.414657
>>414648
>Fantasy players complained that Age of Sigmar took to many ques from 40k
>Now 40k is going to rebuild itself in the image of AoS
Get ready for the Voidcast Eternals, stalwart warriors of Sigmar the Emperor.
All of the Primarchs died, there is only the Emperor.
Abaddon is the sole leader of chaos forces and the only army of chaos is the Black Legion.
Vect is now in charge of all of the Eldar and is a good guy.
Also, Necrons and Ad Mech are discontinued as armies.
Age of The Emperor.
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No.414660
>>414657
At this rate, I rather take TTS over current year canon
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No.414663
>>414645
No, that's not what I meant. Celestine being an emporer-deamon prince (and the emporer slowly becoming a chaos god) has been suspected for a long time. They are still heroic champions of mankind that are good guys, by 40k standarts.
I mean more something like then turning into insane chaos spawn-tier abominations through plot fuckery.
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No.414666
>>414648
I can't wait to see the hivemind ban 40k as well and watch the board die as only the manga thread and pdf is active and there are better pdf threads elsewhere.
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No.414667
>>414666
not sure if like 7 total posters count as a hivemind, if you are in a rush to be somewhere else?
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No.414668
>>414667
The guy thinks anyone who disagrees with him is part of a hive mind...very strange.
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No.414669
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No.414670
>>414581
Randomly generated map with random locations are not a replacement for the Old world.
>ayyylmao was once a prosperous region
No it was not. Its the 1st fucking version of it and it always was like this.
>>414660
Why? Its not like anything terrible happened? Sure primaris are just stupid cashgrab and the depraved are no longer interested in sex, but otherwise its fine.
While in TTS Emperor bitches about shit he supposedly created himself.
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No.414671
>>414666
Aren't you the guy who got buttmad because no one in this board likes Age of Smegmar and made a thread shitting on old Fantasy Battle ?
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No.414691
>>414648
The only way I can see female Marines giving me a boner making sense is that some absolute mad man decided that instead of taking painstaking lengths to create astartes why not have BIG BOUNCY ROUND ASSTARTITTIES giving birth to Astartes?
All for the sake of being lore friendly of course.
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No.414705
>>414657
>Age of The Emperor
at least the age of shitmar spammer will have something else to post about.
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No.414794
>>414512
None of that required AoS though. Sea elevs could easily be fluffed into the old world somewhere, as well as the nudist dwarves and even the steampunk dwarves. Shadespire should've just been mordheim and there you go.
>>414518
Narratively speaking, the only reason they did it was so they no longer have to make any effort writing sensible stories within the confines of a solid setting. Instead they can adopt the lazy MTG multiverse model of just coming up with random shit whenever and put all kinds of wars and confrontations that don't really matter in vague, undefined planes that no one cares about.
>>414567
Alright, how about this
>They get their special powers because they are trannies, and as we all know, trannies are all special and pure and better than normal people.
Done. You can thank me later.
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No.414802
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>>414794
Pictfeed of recent Astartes contact with heretic scum showing geneseed defects of new Astartes breed.
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No.414844
Since we already talked about age of smegmar, is it ok to talk about some old world fantasy? Could anyone give a brief rundown differentiating the norscans, khurgans, tong, and hung? Are there any other major chaos human factions. The norscans are fairly obvious and just norse/vikings, but there are regualr sized norscans and the large ones. What about the rest of them?
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No.414918
>>414802
>"I'm glad I left those ugly weirdos."
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No.414925
So I finally read the SoB novels. They were pretty alright. There were some weird bits but overall I enjoyed them. I'd even say that I liked the first one better, though it seems like most prefer the second one.
I wonder if the omnibus is worth getting just for the two short stories.
I also read this new novella that some desperate sold me when I refused to buy any minis during my first store visit. That was probably the most thrilling story of the SoB.-books so far but at the same time it almost feels like the re-telling of some DH session. It also has the best cover art.
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No.414927
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No.414939
>>414927
I sort of want this to be real.
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No.414963
>>414927
>You walk into a new store that opened up recently. They have practically everything, even tables to play on. Those tables, however, are in a seperate room. In that room, they some how managed to set up a series of vents that spew fog onto the floor at a never ending rate. Despite being able to see well in this room, the ceiling is perpeptually dark. As you walk towards the nearest table you hear a slightly off-tone Alexia voice drone on and on about Primaris Lietuenants to some other players at a table. One of these 'Servo-Skulls' floats over to you and begins to print the entierty of the Lexicanum out on faded receipt paper.
The closest thing i've seen was some Halloween skulls that were bought up by some people and had varrious junk glued to them then hung around to make them look like servo skulls. But now that we have these "home AI," it will only be a short time before someone makes a proper servo-skull.
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No.414986
>>414663
>>414645
>>414567
They're obviously just a Tzeentch trick. Make them beacon of hope, then have them sprout the tentacles.
It's something that already has happened with a Lord of Change turning a blood angel into a look alike of Sanguinus with the wings and all.
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No.415016
Why the fuck are orks so point heavy
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No.415039
>>414844
You can read Liber Chaotica, its an awesome book.
>khurgans
Mongolian horde but worse.
>tong
Hardcore version of Kurgans, like Gengiz khan version of them, but not gigantic horde.
>hung
Closer to caveman than to people. Love to lie, which imply that they actually communicate with people.
>norse
Some of them actually worship sigmar and Imperial gods, just to fuck with scholars and for fun. And some of them become traders and trade all over the world and some traders decide to join them instead of trading all over the world. A lot of them care about dark gods as much as average imperial cares about imperial gods. They also tall, blondes with blue eyes and you should not trust their beautiful appearance.
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No.415083
>>415039
Why shouldn't we trust their beautiful appearance? Is it the result of Chaos meddling?
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No.415086
>>415083
>Why shouldn't we trust their beautiful appearance?
Because you can never trust foreigners, duh.
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No.415089
>>415039
Not all norse are blond. Red Heads are seen with disdain inMarienburg simply because they are (most likely) Norscan or a descendant of Norsicans.
>>415016
Because fun costs extra.
>>414670
Shitmar would be a lot less worse if everything took place on one planet.
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No.415100
>>415089
>Shitmar would be a lot less worse if everything took place on one planet.
Then they'd have to actually write consistent narratives and have plot turns that actually make a real impact on the world map though. Avoiding just that seems to have been half the reason for killing the old world in the first place.
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No.415129
>>415039
>Some of them actually worship sigmar and Imperial gods, just to fuck with scholars and for fun. And some of them become traders and trade all over the world and some traders decide to join them instead of trading all over the world.
A lot of them care about dark gods as much as average imperial cares about imperial gods.
Sauce. Because the Marauders are systematically describes as bloodthirsty savages with a dash of nordic culture.
>They also tall, blondes with blue eyes and you should not trust their beautiful appearance.
Most of them have hideous mutations (unless slaneeshi), they live in a place with natural warp rifts FFS...
Are you sure you're not mixing it with Kislev?
Kislev originated from chaos waste nomadic tribes, that were essentially pushed further south by the madness of the tribes that started worshiping the dark gods and became less and less civilized (and more and more dangerous), the Gospodars, Roppsmenn and the Ungols.
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No.415171
>>414463
Usually they will release deamons for sigmar then almost immediately have rules for them in 40k since they are deamons and sigmar and 40k are connected via the warp. So we get the same deamons in both settings.
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No.415174
>>415129
>Sauce.
Liber Chaotica and Tome of corruption.
>Are you sure you're not mixing it with Kislev?
Yep.
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No.415285
So I am getting into the hobby again after 10+ years and I made a list of all IG minis I still have in stock (via battlescribe)
Is that a working list? I srsly have to get into the hobby again...
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No.415300
>>415285
>flamer and missile launcher in same unit
>picking flamer when plasma is cheap and killy
>putting heavy flamers AND lascannons on a russ
That being said, the fact that you can get all that in under 500 points makes me weep hot blood.
Personally, I'm trying to figure out if I should take 2 battalions or 1, to save on the points. 2 battalions nets me a lot of CP, but if I only take one I can save about 170 points on stuff I don't need to take. My list, as it is:
2 warbosses with powerklaw and kustom shoota
Snikrot
1 weirdboy
2 squads of 15 kommandos, one with powerklaw and one with big choppa
3 units of 10 grotz
3 units of 30 boys, all with powerklaw
1 unit of 10 nobz, all with big choppas
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No.415301
>>415300
>>flamer and missile launcher in same unit
>>picking flamer when plasma is cheap and killy
>>putting heavy flamers AND lascannons on a russ
As I said it's everything I have in stock.
>>415300
>get all that in under 500 points
I was surprised too.
>your list
Sounds like a killer list. Very killy for infantery I guess and sounds fun as you have many boyz and no vehicles
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No.415302
>>415285
Heavy bolters are good, for some reason now. Plasma is cheaper than melta. Plus you don't have to worry about Gets Hot! anymore if you only shoot it on low charge. But you can over charge them for +1 S, at the risk of getting blown up. Missiles are good too. Your list also seems like it can deal with anything just in case. I don't think you'll have any major issues against anything at 500 points.
>>415300
Do foot slogging Orks work well?
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No.415303
>>415301
>As I said it's everything I have in stock.
Fair enough. I definitely recommend picking up some plasma, though, it's a great weapon for guard now. Also, take a look at guard doctrines when you can, it can drastically change the way you run your army.
>I was surprised too.
One of the things I've realized when writing guard lists is that I run out of things to take before I run out of points. Guard are incredibly cost effect, and compare everything in other armies to what I can take for the same points in a guard list. The standard for me is either one leman russ or 9 mortars. When it comes to orks, the vehicles are too expensive for what they're capable of, especially when it comes to shooting, and the specialist infantry typically too soft. With the way cover works now, it's just not worth it take 17 point lootas or tank huntas, when they die just as easily as a 7 point boy. The only exception (for me) are kommandos, which are only 8 points and very survivable with their infiltration ability, and nobz, which are durable enough to be worth it.
>>415302
The plan is to use the weirdboy to Jump as many of the boyz and nobz as possible. I'm really going to be relying on cover and grot shields to keep the bulk of the army alive, admittedly. If I run into serious anti-infantry I'm going to have problems, unless I manage to tie it up in CC before too long.
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No.415304
>>415302
>I don't think you'll have any major issues against anything at 500 points.
I didn't plan to have a list capable of beeing an allround list but I am happy that I have one now...
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No.415309
how do i deal with mass mortar from astra militarum?
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No.415310
>>415309
Counter artillery, or deepstrike assault
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No.415323
>>415304
Its not like you trying to be competitive so build everything that seems fun to you. Also why do you need chimera for? And I am not sure its a good idea to mix assault/heavy/long range/close range weapons on a unit. They cant advance and shoot, they cant shoot far away, if they are far away only one of them can shoot, etc.
>>415300
You likely will need transports unless you plan to play with lots of LoS breakers. It seems like you will spend 2 turns on nothing but getting shot at in best case scenario.
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No.415351
>>415174
Frankly those description to me are meant to say more about Marienburg (((merchants))) than it does about Norscan society.
Of course there are many people that do Chaos worships AND trade, the entirety of the lore for the Chaos Dwarves revolve around that, the main purpose for raiding is slavery, etc... What is describe here is aligned with what a Khornate society would do, they would just walk openly among the imperials that are too "weak" to even put up a fight and would take what they want be it women, gold or goods. The fact that those people give those willingly is just further proof of their weakness, they might agree to barter useless furs for proper steel as one would give a token from a lord to a peasant, add that Khorne teaches that deceit is weakness and they might think they're actually displaying the fairness of the strong.
But just like in 40k chaos worshiping cults mascarade as something harmless (quite sometime even within imperial cults) doesn't mean they're good guys buy a large margin. Norscan should be treated like WHFB "Lost and the Damned regiments" that go from "guys that had little choice but siding with the strongest" to "one minute away from chaos spawn".
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No.415371
>>415323
>why do you need chimera for?
I wanted it for the scions.
I can scrap the transport for another sentinel a command squad or 2 crusaders.
What you think?
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No.415373
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No.415377
Firstly, I have a boyz squad of 10 and 30. Both of them have boss nobs as sergeants.
I use the mob up stratagem to combine them to a single mob of 40 boyz. With two boss nobs. Am I reading that right, that I can have 2 power klaws in a mob?
Secondly, can Killa Kans have Clan Kulturs? I had read somewhere that no, they can't but I'm not seeing the rule that precludes gretchen or killa kans from benefiting from kultur.
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No.415403
>>415377
> Am I reading that right, that I can have 2 power klaws in a mob?
Yes. As long as the mobs are the same type they can mob up. For example, two loota mobs can mob up but not a loota and a tank hunta mob.
>Secondly, can Killa Kans have Clan Kulturs?
Units that have the Gretchin cannot have klan kulturs.
>I'm not seeing the rule that precludes gretchen or killa kans from benefiting from kultur.
Bottom of page 124, opposite the page that has all the klan kulturs on them.
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No.415431
>>415403
Ah I see it. Thanks mate. I guess Killa Kans with Bad Moonz kultur would be a little too shooty for Orks. Same goes for Flash gits as well I guess.
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No.415482
Have you ever wanted to run Jojo-style Stand Battles in the 41st millenium? No? Too bad. Trisdekanon here, with the latest draft to the Stand Battle chapter of the Heretical Museum of V.A. Beau, my ongoing anime-themed armoury book for the d100 W40k RPGs.
I have yet to figure out a way to do a "Stand Builder" system, but for now, I think giving the player 27 different options to choose from is halfway decent.
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No.415549
Here's old bad OC I made that I rediscovered today.
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No.415597
>>415351
Read the fucking books, nigger, instead of spewing bullshit.
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No.415818
Does Chaos use servo skulls? They're everywhere in the imperium, would it make sense for chaos worshippers or even CSM to have the things as well? Sure they have demons and slaves, but the imperium has those as well, sort of. Also, what are the chances of GW actually listening to a petition? I'm not gonna ask for something stupid like fem marines or shit that isn't there to begin with, just a few additions to wargear options for csm.
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No.415819
>>415818
Chaos uses a lot of the same stuff that the Imperium does, often out of necessity. That includes servo skulls and other types of servitors. They might be made slightly different, or use skulls of xeno origin, but it's still roughly the same.
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No.415825
Does any one know what mark the new CSM kit is supposed to be? I want my 30k word bearers vets to look closer to the art and was wondering if the mark is era appropriate.
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No.415832
>>415825
They're wearing 4, 5 and 6. No obvious 7 or 8. Sadly, no 3 or 2. That'd be DG for 3
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No.415841
>>415832
Thanks for the help.
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No.415849
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
The word "eldar" has Norse roots. In Swedish it is literally the plural form of "eld" meaning fire or light:
https://translate.google.ca/#view=home&op=translate&sl=sv&tl=en&text=eldar
which has actually remained unchanged from Old Norse:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/eldr#Old_Norse
Tolkien borrowed the word Eldar and capitalized it as the name for a race of elves in his fictional elvish language Quenya, which he began creating in 1910:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quenya
Eldar literally means "people of the stars" in Quenya:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundering_of_the_Elves#Eldar
where the Norse root "eld" meaning fire or light fits very nicely as a reference to stars. For those interested, embedded is an audio recording from 1952 of Tolkien reading a Quenya poem, Namárië, from Lord of the Rings
Tolkien's capitalized "Eldar" has been used in other works such as the Riftwar Saga fantasy novels by Raymond Feist, again to describe a race of elves (apparently without legal problems). The Tolkien Estate also seems to have had no problem with Games Workshop using the name Eldar or their likeness and traits for Warhammer 40K.
All of that being said, the word seems to be most commonly known from the futuristic Eldar, the space elves of Warhammer 40K. But can Games Workshop really lay any claim to the word Eldar itself, as they appear to be doing on their Intellectual Property Policy:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Intellectual-Property-Policy
alongside "Space Marine" and other terms? Tolkien capitalized the word in the early 1900s as a race of elves, "people of the stars", and he took the word from the Norse languages which were around during the Viking age over a millennium ago.
After GW's highly controversial and failed attempt to remove a book from Amazon for simply using the term 'space marine' (which has been in use since the 1930s by author Robert Heinlein and others):
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/02/trademark-bully-thwarted-spots-space-marine-back-online
they seem to have backed off from legal aggression and have also renamed their armies into specific names that GW can exclusively claim. Space Marines have been officially renamed to Adeptus Astartes, Eldar have been officially renamed to Aeldari, etc.
If a new book or computer game was released that used the term "Eldar" to refer to an elf-like race (assuming that it was quite different from 40K Eldar and in a different setting), do you think GW would attempt any legal action? Do you think they've settled on Aeldari now and would probably leave the name Eldar alone and respect its Norse and Tolkien origins?
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No.415852
>>415849
In Tolkien's works the elves also call themselves the Quendi,. That's not mentioning all the sub groups of elves, who funnily enough weren't simply grey skinned evil elves or brown skinned Indians,
>their likeness and traits
Hardly
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No.415854
>>415852
>"Hardly"
>nearly identical portrayal of elves as Tolkien, stealing all of his innovations on traditional Norse elves, even the fucking name Eldar
it's only by pure mercy that the Tolkien Estate hasn't sued GW into oblivion for their elves and Eldar from fantasy and 40K, they could in a heartbeat if they wanted to
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No.415870
>>415854
No, it's because the eldar have one distinguishing traits from LoTR elves.
THE ELDER ARE COCKSLEEVES
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No.415879
As an Ork player playing killteam, how do I defeat Death Guard.
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No.415882
>>415879
>Orks vs DG
>One of the weakest vs one of the strongest.
Depends on what they're running. You could always use grots as meat shields.
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No.415905
>>415879
Grot spam and Burna Boyz, probably your best shot
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No.415926
https://web.archive.org/web/20190328153702/https://www.themarysue.com/warhammer-40k-fandom-fascism/
#NotMyGodEmperor: Why Are There So Many Actual Fascists in the Warhammer 40K Fandom?
PREVIEW:
>It all started when I saw a picture of Trump photoshopped to be the God-Emperor of Mankind.
>It was last December, when Trump’s campaign was swinging into high gear. I was a young innocent oh those many months ago, but that picture caused a twinge in me. It was a little like enjoying Liar’s Poker (which I do) and then finding out that some Wall Street creeps used it as a guide (which they did). It annoys me when people I dislike share an appreciation for something I like, but I brushed it off.
>But I kept seeing that picture, and similar images, popping up all over the internet. And then after I wrote a particularly divisive article for TMS back in January, I started getting exposed to the less friendly elements of Warhammer 40k’s fanbase and it started to get stuck in my brain. And then I remembered how, back when GamerGate was still a thing that people took seriously, how they would often use repurposed images from Warhammer 40k as propaganda. And some dots started connecting in the back of my brain.
>That’s ridiculous, I told myself. There’s absolutely no way they could be genuinely identifying with the Imperium of Man or its fascist power structure. After all, the Imperium of Man is a parody of fascism, and not a particularly subtle one at that, since the game constantly talks about how much life sucks and how the authoritarianism causes more problems than it solves. They’d have to be blind to not see that Warhammer 40k is… kid…ding.
>Oh. Oh no.
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Here's a retard article fellas. I've angerposted about this before and I prepared a long shpiel but I want to clean it up and present it better before posting it because it's just an hour-long stream of consciousness type-up.
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No.415927
>>415926
Don't get me wrong the best thing to do here is not be reactionary and get defensive because it's not like I shit my politics into the hobby. I just don't want to eventually be banned from a store or my local games or whatever because I have the wrong voting record.
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No.415928
>>415926
ah shit
its from 2016
I'm big fag
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No.415944
Can anyone point me in the direction of the ch*namen? Preferably ones carrying out of print stuff? I'm trying to get some of the older Horus Heresy Night Lords kits
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No.415945
>>415944
I got an email a while back saying that GW's legal team has shut him down, but I've since gotten a couple of emails advertising sales. I don't know if they're just automated and he never stopped them, or what, but I haven't ordered anything from him since. I could post the email if you're willing to take a risk.
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No.415948
>>415944
Some of the good ones awhile back got a C&D from GW. So they're gone. There are still a lot out there. I know I posted some on here, but I think those got taken down not long afterwards. If you know exactly what you're looking for, then a quick google search can lead to some wonderful results. I'd also try doing searches like that during the weekend.
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No.416070
>>415926
>https://www.themarysue.com/warhammer-40k-fandom-fascism/
Yes the empire of man might have been imagined as a parody of fascism back in the 80s. As well as the edgy "atheist-empire-the -emperor-wanted" backstory.
But the fact is, that the IoM wouldn't last a single day as a democracy/ sjw-tier political system.
the brutality and strictness is NECESSARY for humanity to survive. Any weakness would not be forgiven by the enemy.
The enemy from outside as well as the enemy from within!
And you need to keep the people in check, because if the empire would lower their grip over the untold trillions of trillions chaos (and CHAOS) would erupt withing hours.
As well as conscription and throwing millions into the meat grinder of eternal warfare. it is necessary for the overall survival of humanity.
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No.416093
>>415926
>current year
>there are unironic fascists and national socialists who would sympathize with an authoritarian government that imposes order on chaotic and xenos degeneracy
wow just wow i can't even, i literally can't even right now omg
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No.416096
>>416070
>it is necessary for the overall survival of humanity.
Wow, that's grim. And dark. Almost like that's the fucking point, not that these dumbasses would understand that
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No.416125
Any news about the replacement site for vk sortiarius, after it got shut down?
Or any place where Malevolence is in pdf format?
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No.416129
>>416125
I googled it and found it. Also it looks like its just a locked group rather than shut down. Depending on how big a file you can post here, I could up-load it. But I have the feeling that it might be too big.
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No.416130
>>416129
That's what i thought at first. But people from that group confirmed that they needed to shut down cause GW were on their throats. Also they asked people to not "ask for invites for the private group" cause there is none.
Yeah, the pdf will probably weight 200+ mb
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No.416182
I'm a bit out of the loop - is is true that the Tau somehow created some freaky "Greater Good" warp god? I mean, they do have feelings so they must have some impact on the warp (even if they're all blanks), but I wouldn't think there actually are enough Tau - speaking in terms of numbers - to shit out a warp god.
Compared, to say, the Eldar giving birth to baby Slaanesh.
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No.416187
>>416182
>Tau created a Chaos God
Where the fuck did you read this?
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No.416190
File: 96670ad8df36d41⋯.png (Spoiler Image,1.06 MB,717x1124,717:1124,open_graph3571327386297677….png)
>>416182
No.
Tau fourth sphere got wiped out by the cicatrix maledictum on launch. Fifth sphere had new warp skimming engines on all the ships, against engineer advise the ethereal sent them all off at once. Opened rift into warp.
The Tau created the Greater Good ideology. They have many warp sensitive and manipulating member races. These races' various views of the Greater Good created a gestalt entity, who has many as helping hands as there races.
The Tau who saw the warp were at first horrified, then moved to tears as the god shoved them into real space, then so disgusted at the god's existence that the started racially cleansing the fifth sphere of expansion. All the commanders were deposed when contact was reestablished, but the deed was already done by then. Now there is a wormhole from Tau space to somewhere north east of Ultramar.
If I recall correctly.
Their universal revulsion of warp shenanigans strengthens the argument that they're descended from Necrontyr.
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No.416209
>>416190
>Tau as descendants of Necrons
That's actually kinda cool, and would give some much needed injection of grim into the tau. Maybe then they could move away from the space communism and focus more on... well, something else.
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No.416236
>>416187
Tau built some warpdrive ships and launched them all at the same time tearing fabric of space a little bit more than usual. SO they shat their pants and ships were sucked into warp.
>>416190
>hell opened
>they dislike that
>this means they are necrotyr
Ok.
>>416209
Everyone and their mother could be descendant from necrotyr. Humans were suspected as their manipulation anlso pariahs, tau were suspected also they were supposedly manipulated by eldar but that was forgotten probably. I am not even sure if their technology is based on "ancient" relatively crushed ork ship these days.
Basically no one cares about tau these days. They were separated from the rest of the galaxy and they are not involced with anything which is happening.
And they dont even build pyramids. Because Tau is a newborn race Triarch praetorians havent even visited their world.
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No.416379
>>415945
He's back up. I guess he just sent that out and purged the mail list to only keep the ones that already bought a lot.
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No.416410
>>415945
>>416379
Happen to have a catalog?
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No.416517
>>416096
>that's the fucking point
Yeah and those idiots not getting it or still believing in the it-is-all-edgy-satire-theory are the real joke in that regard
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No.416560
>>416236
>Basically no one cares about tau these days. They were separated from the rest of the galaxy and they are not involced with anything which is happening.
I think the overarching theme with the Tau is how fast their tech evolves. They have been nothing more than a fart in the greater timeline of things in 40k, but they already got anything from jet-powered battlesuits to artificial intelligence to high-powered plasma weapons.
The other races may still outdo them in most fields of technology (Imperial titans, Ork genetic engineering, Eldar psykery stuff), but unlike them, the Tau didn't need tens of thousands of years if not more to come up with what they already have.
Considering they're all blanks and the heavy hints that they Eldar somehow are involved in the creation of the Ethereals, they basically follow the Orkz in the theme of being a biological (and by now technical) weapon wildly out of control, even if their reach still is as low as it gets.
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No.416647
>>416560
>overarching theme with the Tau is how fast their tech evolves
They invented warp engine and it fucked them in the ass. And as result project was abandoned and we have "event horizon" tau now.
They are not blanks, they just have weak presence in warp, like animals.
>heavy hints that they Eldar somehow are involved in the creation of the Ethereals
I said before, I have no idea if that is canon anymore.
>tau is a biological weapon
Lol.
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No.416704
I was making a delaque gang and wanted to know if this sounded retarded or too cheesy of a list. So far I want to try and do an overseer build.
>Leader with two stub guns and bio sensor.
>Two champions each with hand flamer, flechette pistol, and long rifle. Smoke grenades and infrared are something else I am thinking of adding.
>Two lasgun gangers with smoke grenades and infrared.
>4 gangers with dual autopistols or dual stub guns.
>A juve with dual stub guns.
How does this look? My champions seem like big point sinks, so I am worried about that. To be honest, I kind of built whatever I thought made the champions look good and more different before looking to make a list.
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No.416753
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
If this is what I think it is, selling Pre-Painted models, then they are going to kill the hobby.
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No.416776
>>416753
Hasn’t GW’s attitude toward pre-painted models been “We’re a model company, if we sell pre-painted then we’d be a toy company.”?
Also, I doubt that they would do something like that so soon after jacking up the price of paint.
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No.416803
>>416753
>Pre-painted
Gross. I hope its just a convoluted way of saying they're making Airbrush paints.
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No.416867
>>416753
How the fuck do you get that. It's some special definition paint range.
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No.416870
Can Eldars get swole? How is their strength/speed compared to humans explained?
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No.416872
>>416870
>Can Eldars get swole?
Yes, as proven by Dark Eldar.
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No.416888
>>416872
But most swole Dark Eldar are either Wyches, who all probably do super steroids. Or Haemonculi, who can just graft muscle onto themselves, or have muscle growing juice, like the stuff they use to make Grotesques.
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No.416904
>>416872
>>416888
They dont exactly swole, but it looks like they are and it good enough.
>>416870
They are not stronger but faster in reaction and everything else and they have better control over their body. If you bearhug one you can probably strangle him to death, but if you hit each other with a sword you will receive same damage. And they used to be lighter than humans but that probably was retconed.
>Dark Eldar are either Wyches, who all probably do super steroids
These days there are not than many wyches either. Too fucking sexy for modern world. I am pretty sure they dont usen use words sex/orgy/rape even once in whole codex.
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No.416915
>>416904
>sex/orgy/rape
I don't think they did in the previous codex, though I'm sure they implied it. The genestealer cult codex dances around the fact that in order to get some of the different biomorphs, infected humans have to fuck hideous abominations.
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No.417016
>>416753
>>416776
Indeed, besides, latelly they are focusing more on Skirmish games, and one only need to paint a few miniuatures; This is not Warhammer Fantasy with its huge numbers.
Besides, if GW wanted to sell prepainted ones, then they could try to compete with Star Wars Armada by releasing Battlefleet Gothic again (And didnt they promised it some time ago? why it havent happened yet?), and try to released miniatures already painted (yet also possible to repaint them as you want).
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No.417262
This is a Slaanesh thread now.
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No.417265
>>417262
>2017 was the year of Khorne
>2018 was the year of Nurgle
>2019 is the year of Slaanesh
I’m glad GW finally is willing to recognize that there are four Chaos gods.
Codex:Emperor’s Children when?
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No.417321
DoWsecondary here, I'm curious about the Imperial Guard.
Are they supposed to, in lore/on tabletop, fight like a modern army with small elite groups being supported with vehicles or do they throw a giant wall of bodies and vehicles at their enemies until they win?
Also how common is it for any IG officer to have plasma weaponry?
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No.417323
>>417321
Both, the Imperium is so large Guard regiments can be almost anything.
Plasma weapons are on the rare side but common enough high ranking officers can carry plasma pistols or specialists can be issued a plasma gun. Good luck getting more than one per squad though.
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No.417361
this is very underwhelming for a keeper of secrets.
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No.417367
>>417361
But if they don't have pockets where do they keep their secrets?
I get the feeling all the slaanesh daemon models won't have tits.
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No.417379
>>417367
Exposed tits? No. Breasts though. Tits Plus they now have a named KoS. Which is a an improvement.
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No.417384
>>417367
>no tits
Those days are long gone...
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No.417476
Seems the repository on Mega has gone dark, anybody got a new one?
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No.417493
>>417321
>>417323
Elite is usually limited to scions and stormtroopers. For regular guard regiments you definitely have some difference between storied elite regiments like the Vostroyans and more generic shit, but they're all more on the wall of flesh side.
Plasma is mostly limited, but depending on what your regiment in question has been cleared to requisition and whatever supplies are available, I'm sure you could still have 30k Solar Auxillia style with entire 10 man squads with plasma, in the right circumstances. Not in the actual 40k rules though.
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No.417496
>>417379
>Keepers of Secrets are the Greater Daemons of Slaanesh. Created subconsciously by the Prince of Pleasure, these Daemons are the ultimate manifestation of his desire for physical excess and pleasure in battle.
<The navel (clinically known as the umbilicus, colloquially known as the belly button, or tummy button) is a protruding, flat, or hollowed area on the abdomen at the attachment site of the umbilical cord. All placental mammals including humans have a navel.
Neverborn my ass. Unless that hole is used for unbirthing we have ourselves a mystery. Isha is likely still alive in Nurgles garden, so the Prince of Pleasure does not have the aspect of fertility. Birth in the regular and mythological senses is beyond his capability without a female aspect to gestate it.
Daemons are made of emotion and symbology, things noticed by minds awake and asleep, thus the inclusion of the navel must be significant.
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No.417499
>>417496
It's there because navels are hot.
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No.417500
>>417496
Slaanesh can also be female, so giving birth to her own greater daemons wouldn't be beyond her. Or maybe it's there because daemons know there are people who want to kiss tummies
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No.417501
>>417496
Dude, Slaanesh is omniphilic, you think at one point the Prince of Excess didn’t have a belly button fetish?
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No.417535
>>417496
>Isha is likely still alive in Nurgles garden, so the Prince of Pleasure does not have the aspect of fertility.
Lol. We have two war gods why can't Slaanesh share something with Isha?
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No.417604
>>417496
>sees a belly button
>ISHA IS ALIVE!
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No.417623
Why do I see Guilliman listening to post malone?
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No.417792
What was the name of the first "fight" between space marines? I know it involved some cave on some planet where one or two fell under the sway of something, then they fired on the rest of their squad.
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No.417793
>>417792
There was no name for it, it was covered up if I'm remembering things right.
Alternatively, there may have been clashes between space marines when the lost primarchs got axed
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No.417798
>>417792
Almost sounds like your describing Calth, but that’s not the first time Space Marines fought each other. It’s the first time the Ultramarines fought other Space Marines, but that’s not the same.
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No.417826
>>417792
Sounds like youre talking about when the Luna Wolves first encountered Chaos. Its in the first Horus Heresy book.
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No.417832
>>417826
Yeah, I think it was in there too.
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No.417857
>>417792
Almost certainly the encounter with Samus, in current records, but implications are that at least one of the missing primarch legions had something go down that required hard physical censure.
The Rangdam xenocides probably involved mind control, considering the race is known as Cerabvores which likely means literal brain eaters.
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No.417874
I had a couple quick questions about necromunda. Are tactics cards still in use since GW stopped selling them? I also wanted to ask if smoke from smoke grenades can have blast template weapons or spray template weapons shot into them. The rules state that guns cannot be shot into or through the smoke, but it seems weird not to be able to spray a flamethrower or just lob a grenade.
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No.418078
there was a rumble between the wolves and the hounds/world eaters pre-heresy
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No.418101
>>418078
That wasn’t really a proper fight, since Russ didn’t want to fight, much less kill, Angron. He was just there to try and convince him to knock it off with the Butcher’s Nails. If Angron hadn’t been in his default mood (read: fuckangry) there wouldn’t have had to have been a fight.
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No.418111
What about the two missing legions/primarchs? Surely the emperor sent one of the other legions to fuck them up when they went out of line.
What could those two primarchs possibly done to get wiped out like that? Did they hold Emperors waifus hands?
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No.418133
>>417792
>>417857
>Samus
Yeah, that's the story I was looking for.
>>418111
A recent story revealed that they worked together to do something that made the horus heresy look like a minor squable. So much so that all the primarch's memories were wiped of it. Before that happened, Horus tried to say the name of one of them only to have the shit choked out of him by Malcador. Maybe they tried to NTR the Emperor?
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No.418141
>>418133
Primarch 2 was turbo Lorgar (very religious) and tried raising his own Space Crusade with the help of the last Catheric Pope.
Primarch 11 went Last Samurai because he got an Eldar waifu.
Or at least that's my head canon.
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No.418143
>>418141
I'm curious, what with the Eldar's disdan for humanity, of what they thought of the Primarchs.
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No.418145
>>418143
Yvraine and her ilk seem to respect Guilliman and recognize him as being on a different level than mortals and even astartes.
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No.418146
>>418133
> that made the horus heresy look like a minor squable
It couldn't have been that cataclysmic. My theory is one of them ruled over a multi species empire and refused to join his father and the other was purged during the rangdan xenocide, possibly infected/mindcontrolled by the xenos.
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No.418147
>>418146
Fuck maybe the enemy that the imperium fought during the xenocide was the multispecies empire led by one of, or both the missing primarchs
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No.418149
>>417262
I looked at one of the slaanesh daemon hords the other day, and it says they serve slaanesh by "causing lots of pain" in other words, they just go arround killing like any other daemon. How boring.
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No.418151
>>418141
>>418146
Here, have a blurry window into their personalities and relations. http://menducia.atspace.com/primarchs/II.html
II High Priestess and X Fortune. Indeed one would be 'highly religious' but in a way that they would understand the warp better than Magnus. Weaker at using, but far more fine tuned. Where Magnus can summon lightning and fire the 2nd can summon coffee. Wise council. Most Primarchs either were offput by his obtuse advice, or gave it high regard.
Fortune? Mix the Lamenters with Cato Sicarius. Highest highs and lowest lows, crass bravado and gutted depression. Would have been Angron's support network, possibly convincing him to take the nails out. Would have been able to get Guillaman to chill out, meaning the reasonable marines of Ultramarines were likely his stock. Most alike Sanguinius.
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No.418274
With the chance of mutiny and inconsistent movement, how should you use the grot mega tank? Big shootas have 36" range to help get into combat earlier, but they lack the punch of the 24" rokkits and KMB. I do have 4 grot tanks and 3 killa kans to support it with. When I've played before my grots were chewed up by enemy infantry and their heavy supports wiped out most of my armor before I got into range.
I would like to win with my joke army at least once.
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No.418284
>>418274
Big shootas are wasted on grot BS. Give them rokkits or kustom mega shootas, it's worth it on them. The big problem with the grot mega tank is that it's going to die fast. Everything in the ork codex costs too many god damn points
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No.418302
>>418143
Since all of it is written by Ward, they're in total awe of THEBESTESTSSPESHHMARINESEVAR, they're all ready to bow to their spiritual liege.
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No.418342
>>418274
If you play pure grots then no, I don't think you're going to win. The whole point with the Grot tanks and mega tank is just to be mobile fire support to take shots while the enemy is focused on gunning down the battlewagons and trukks full of boyz. Great rust btw.
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No.418344
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No.418345
>>418344
>Made by Bandai
I'm calling it now, this is Bandai's long-term plan of buying out GeeDubs, soon enough Gunpla kits of Beakies, Sororitas and Ground Marines will become a thing in the not-so-distant future
Also
>That chibi Beakie
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No.418346
>>418345
Its not just a beakie, its THE beakie.
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No.418356
>>418344
I hate it.
>God, what is happening to my beloved 40k?
>'Something good' is the answer, which, while it may not be to my own personal taste, is helping the hobby diversify, thrive, and survive.
people actually think expansion and diversification of a hobby is good on principle
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No.418357
>>418344
That assassin is shit but its better than the funko pops.
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No.418361
>>418344
>Finally get 1/6 scale marines
>(((Primeass Marines)))
>Bad looking chibi shit
Call me when we get proper space marine figures.
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No.418362
>>418361
Not gonna happen, but here's another primaris lieutenant
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No.418363
>>418344
I'm divided. On one hand its not more funko-shit. On the other its kind of a bastardised attempt. They should have Bandai make the Knight models
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No.418365
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No.418392
>>418344
>Space Marine action figure
>It’s a fucking Guilimarine
>not the classic Beakie
>not the MK.7 that was the posterboy of the series for the majority of 40k’s existence.
It’s going to be the only toy where you can list the accessories it does not come with.
Seeing as primaris still cannot take chainswords, Lightning claws, Thunder hammers, heavy bolters, or bikes, terminator armor, or a jump pack.
Should have just made a Marine figure you could mix and match gear to make a tactical, assault, or devastator.
I would like to see Bandai’s take on Titans, Imperial or otherwise. Imagine the Japanese designing an Ork Gargant.
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No.418400
>>418344
At this point I hope they just age of shitmarify the 40k setting. Just kill it now before they rape it even worse.
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No.418413
>>418392
>>418363
They should have just made a Gundam style 1/6 plastic kit of a real marine. Then just do what Bandai already does and use the same sprue as a base for countless derivatives with colour swaps and extra sprues added for different loadouts and armour marks. Then they could do a P-Bandai equivalent directly from GW for more obscure variants like Charcarodons and such.
Either way, I'm not putting one of those generic looking sigmarines on my shelf, no thanks.
In other news, pic related. I really hope that Skitarii tank is easy to magnetise so I don't have to buy 3 of each variant.
Chaos Knights I didn't really though I wanted, but alright these look cool enough to warrant at least one.
Also that sister has such a manface she looks like she's straight out of JJBA.
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No.418416
Why GW insist on making sisters with such ugly faces?
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No.418417
>>418413
The SoB looks like she's missing eyebrows, probably doesn't help with the manface problem.
Did they make her boobplate smaller?
>>418416
either lack of talent, problems with casting non-man faces for small figures or malice, personally I think it's all 3.
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No.418418
>>418413
I'd like to see that SoB without paint.
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No.418419
>>418413
>admech hoverboat
looks kinda retarded tbh
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No.418421
>>418416
They're in the process of being colonized by poz, so they can't ideologically justify making sexually attractive warrior-women for teenage boys. Instead it has to be really butch looking warrior-women, for teenage boys.
when the process is complete, they'll produce female space marines instead.
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No.418422
>>418417
Well, KD manage to cast pretty nice female faces and their scale is just slightly bigger, though the faces themselves are usually a good match for GW models.
I think it's got a lot to do with the desire to make "badass" wamens, which probably makes it a lot harder to balance the design. Especially since the SoB style don't allow for more outlandish punky aesthetics that you can see in the Necromunda thots, manning up the facial structure is probably one of the few ways to do it. Lorewise it makes more sens for them to look like that as well, but yea, If I'm building any SoB I think I'll stick to the helmets and pop in a spare KD head here and there.
>>418419
Really? Looks like a pretty nice blend of retro scifi, WW2 landing vehicles and established Admech aesthetics to me. The turret seems to be open topped only though, that really bugs me.
New shit pic related. Also a bunch of not so noteworth BA and WS. Really like the Daemon brutes, will be interesting to see more Undivided style daemons coming out, even if they'll probably be retardedly priced.
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No.418425
>>418422
So finally Knight upgrades (Missiles, heads and fists?), Porphyrions (Sprues indicate 2 per box and no additional loadouts beside the turbolasers), the reaver carapace weapons previously teased, as well as a bit of terrain (Seems to be all single pieces so I would assume forgeworld rather than plastic), terminals for named titans and stratagems and dice for both traitors and loyalists. Some new light scout titan (Why?) and a bigger than Warlord but not-quite Imperator (Also why?) is also in the pipeline.
They also completely butchered the Cawdor exectioner. No more hood and now only one noose around his neck. Way to bow out to SJW retards. Fuck you I'm converting my own. Enforcer gang is and Badlands book coming next though, possibly more Squats and Spyrers eventually.
Apparently Aeronautica is coming now as well, Epic is still a maybe, BFG is a "couple of years off".
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No.418428
>>418421
That and the fact that John Blanche could not make something aesthetically pleasing even if his fucking life depended on it. Kudos to him for developing his own style, but his stile is hideous and has defined both warhammer and w40k .
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No.418431
>Repulsor 2: The Electric Bogaloo.
Really, GW? If they really wanted new models that look more modern for the humans, that arent 30K; Then just make Warhammer 50K instead, in which either the Imperium fractures, or just dies, but with whatever human faction that appear after that starting to discover & research technology again, or at least stop using another aesthetic than the imperial one.
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No.418434
>>418431
They've already made 41k, and the Imperium has fractured, at least physically. All they need to do now is to make a a new civil war and they're pretty much there. Shitty plot anyway, I'll just continue to ignore every book and fluff after the siege of Cadia.
Also, that tank isn't really "modern" either, it's just horrendously ugly. It's as if they took a modified landraider chassis, slapped a lot of glue to it and shook it around in a box full of guns and missiles and bits.
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No.418444
>AoS bringing back Chaos Dwarves
>Introducing Chaos Elves that worship a snake god
>"Watch this space in 40k"
Who used the monkeys paw for their fucking heretic squats?
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No.418450
>>418444
That would be okay if that was not warhammer.
>>418425
You like this fist? Good news for you, to gt it you only need to buy whole model with it for 300$! YOu will need only 2 boxes to equip your knight with 2 fists!
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No.418455
>>418450
They did say it was an upgrade sprue though. So it should have at least enough fists and missiles to equip 6 knights. Seeing how the other weapon sprues are priced though, they probably won't be that cheap.
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No.418470
>>418450
>$300
its adeptus titanicus scale, so maybe $100?
>>418422
>Custodes stuff
Of course, we obviously need more of their shit. At least the demons look ok.
>>418416
Their sculptors are bad with female faces. Its been this way since the company was founded. Not because of recent political trends.
>>418431
>More primaris shit
I hope they put a lot of effort into making the Primarii only to have it blow-back into their faces. That's why they're plastered over everything now. As if they're trying to deal with an incoming loss by putting forth the shittiest thing first.
>Imperial Areonauticus
>again
Why? Its like shooting yourself in the foor then reloading only to shoot yourself again thinking, "Hmm, maybe it won't hurt this time?"
>>418413
>Chaos Knight kits
>Codex Chaos Knights
>Painted SoB.
Wew. The tanks look odd, even for 40k. I understand the inspiration, but its a poor execution.
Now they're making painting easier because god-forbid you need more than one paint.
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No.418471
>>418470
The Contrasts means one bottle instead of three though, So I'm sure they've priced it appropriately. Wouldn't want to have a loss here huh.
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No.418485
>>418470
Are you really complaining about not having a shit ton of paint bottles?
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No.418486
>>418431
Since most of them Imperial aesthetic is based on Britbong tank development, they could steal from American cold war prototypes instead for a change.
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No.418522
>>418486
>making something aesthetically pleasing or even remotely realistic
That's asking too much from them.
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No.418523
>>418522
I like the Leviathan.
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No.418529
Are any of the novels following the Primarchs any good? Particularly the Vulkan, Angron and Corax ones?
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No.418535
>>418522
This has always miffed me with 40k, most Imperial flyers look like crap, the vehicle weapons are cartoonishly oversized (Leman Russ main cannon? Looking at the side profile I'd be a 480mm diameter) and they're entirely too hung up on their three aethetic pet peeves (rhomboid tanks, FV430 knockoffs and interwar land ships).
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No.418536
>>418529
Don't know if there is a bad one.
Made Perterabo into a lot of persons favorite primarch.
Anybody got the quote of Angron monolouging about his chains being all red, while his fellow gladiators took black?
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No.418563
Anything interesting for IG?
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No.418574
>>414648
It will happen, the soy has been creeping into GW and we are reaching critical mass where every release is either filled with dindu nuffins or stronk wamyn
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No.418578
>Go in store for another pack of necrons
>Two guys argueing
>One buying Stormcast and hates 40k
>The other buying Primariis and hates AoS
>both think they are better than the other
>both buying focus tested generic armoured dudes
If the fucking necron player thinks your shit is generic you got a problem
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No.418579
>>418578
Congratulation on your ascension.
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No.418580
>>418574
Honestly as long as femmarines have giant asstartitties and also aren't combat oriented but some Magical Realm mechanicus way of facilitating astartes production I'm fine with it, but of course it would be far from it.
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No.418582
>>418580
>hurr hurr as long as big muscle slabs hav big boobies I like
Kill yourself you drooling retard.
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No.418589
>>418574
The only hint that GW would ever consider Femmarines is the irrelevant twitter rantings of some cog in the European marketing division. Female Space Marines seems to be the one line GW won’t cross. Most of the soy comes from Black Library, where authors like Aaron “Daddy issues, also I put women in every non-Space Marine authority role due to the Oedipal complex I received as part of my daddy issues” Dembskii-Bowden
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No.418603
>>418589
Plus we are actually getting SoB for real now. As far as anyone uninitiated is concerned, they're practically female space marines anyway. You'll always have the handful of trannies and hambeasts whining about the boobplates and high heels, but as long as they make them a decent army and maybe not focus so much on Wards' guro fantasies in the fluff, no one's going to be bothered. Shitlib NPCs have enough pet peeves to keep them occupied elsewhere these days anyway.
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No.418636
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No.418637
>>418603
Man, I just want better heads for sisters. Then i'd run them alongside my guard if I ever put them together.
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No.418699
>>418637
Just use 3rd party heads, preferably from a company who knows how to sculpt attractive female faces.
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No.418700
>>418579
>>418636
>Just be apathetic, goy
>Having opinions or defending them is sooo lame
>Caring about things that matter to you? Must be autistic
That's some cringeworthy political cartooning you've got there anon.
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No.418728
>>418700
It's just another extension of the other image that I think is funny. I wasn't even making a statement with that, I was just using that post as an excuse to amuse myself.
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No.418765
Can someone spoonfeed a faggot who lost the link to the mega.nz warhammer folder?
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No.418811
Did I accidentally download someone's gay fanfiction? What the fuck is this?
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No.418814
>>418811
Yeah, its ultrasmurfs book.
>>418765
The one I was using was purged recently.
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No.418815
>>418814
This a one time thing or does this show up later where Gage powerfists an orc or something?
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No.418819
>>418811
>awesomeness
>powerfisting
>cauterized rectum
Now, people call the Tau gay; but this is gayer. Literally homosexual. Who the fuck wrote this book?
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No.418821
>>418811
This can't be real. Fuck you, you wrote this shit yourself, there's no way this is from an official BL book.
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No.418823
>>418821
It's why I'm asking, I geniunely thought I just happened on a fanfic copy something.
Just so we're clear, the first of the HH Primarchs novels, that starts off with the smurfs fighting orcs in a place called Thoas, and has the 22nd chapter get buttdevasted because they got an outsider as a chapter master, has this line?
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No.418830
>>418811
I doubt that's the only thing that was stretched.
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No.418832
>>418811
Gib link to where you found this or it didn't happen
I really hope this is fake
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No.418836
>>418832
Horus Heresy Primarchs Bobby G: Lord of Ultramar. At the end of the second chapter, before the quote attributed to girlyman.
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No.418838
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No.418840
>>418811
Huh. They skipped the slippery slope and assdived into Slaanesh.
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No.418841
>>418811
I always knew there was something funny about them Blue Boys.
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No.418844
>>418811
May the Emperor show mercy on me for witnessing such heresy.
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No.418849
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No.418858
>>418811
>I CALL IT POWERFISTING MY SON
JEJ
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No.418866
>>418811
>It's actually real
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No.418873
>>418866
Double dubs confirm that Powerfisting is canon.
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No.418883
>>418866
Why would anyone do this
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No.418896
>>418811
>>418866
Ha! The poster child of the spess mehrens are a bunch of fags.
Feels good to be IG.
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No.418908
In case anybody cares: Cubicle 7 (the guys who made the The Laundry RPG) will be taking over development of the the WH40K roleplaying game:
https://www.cubicle7games.com/cubicle-7-entertainment-to-publish-warhammer-40000-roleplaying/
>>418811
Gee, I find absolutely nothing about this, almost like this is a fucking ruse cruise or something?!
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No.418916
>>418866
What the fuck?
What the flying fuck?
This is even gayer than the painglove.
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No.418917
>>418908
Is this good or bad?
Havent played that game.
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No.418919
>>418908
>The Laundry RPG
>Cubicle 7
So they're giving it to nobodies? This is to the degree that they've given out rights to random video game companies.
>>418866
>Roboute Guilliman: Lord of Ultramar by David Annandale (short novel) (2016)
Might as well be Matt Ward.
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No.418948
>>418919
>nobodies
The nobodies who're doing WFRP, the Age of Sigmar RPG, the loicensed Doctor Who RPG and Adventures in Middle Earth, yes.
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No.418976
>>418866
And this was discovered just now? Nah, this is clearly a modified epub file or something.
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No.418980
>>418976
I think I seen people talk about it before, usually people shut up about it sooner and pretend that it does not exist. Its not something new, we have pregnant princepts talking about pronouns already so, welcome to future motherfucker, enjoy your aids.
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No.418986
>>418976
I swear to you I did not modify the epub. I just got it off Zlibrary and it was there.
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No.418988
>>418976
I looked around for it, there was a thread on Bolter and Chainsword about it that was only one page before the mods locked it
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No.418998
>>418986
Someone has to bite the bullet and leaf through a physical copy of the book to confirm that no shopping or other fuckery is going on. We need to see if Rawbutt Girlyman and his Buttsex Aidstartes is canon.
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No.419000
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No.419023
In all honesty, 40k can be fixed by just going back to the Rogue Trader days.
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No.419059
>>419023
Don't have to go that far, just go back to before the Tau introduction.
That's when GW literally sold the soul of their game.
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No.419061
>>418986
Then the file uploaded to there must've been tampered with. A quick search for "Lord of ultramar anal" and I get a redditor commenting on it that specifically notes he's DL'd the book from a torrent.
I skimmed through the reviews at Goodreads and found nothing. As shitty a NPCfag place as that is, there's bound to be someone mentioning it if it's actually in the real book, if not in condemnation then some tranny faggot praising how progressive it is.
Speaking of this kind of stuff though, I found some funny things in the Titanicus book, pics realted. I seem to recall a similar thing in one of Abnetts' HH books, where a fourteenth company of the eighty-eight expeditionary fleet or something is mentioned. There's also a scene in the Titanicus book where a nigger admech menial is talking to a white woman in the background, and the narrating character mentions something about how it's funny seeing admech and imperial personnel trying to mingle even though everyone knows they are separate entities that can never come together. That woman also later gets evaporated by a turbolaster.
So I don't know, is he placing little easter eggs telling us that he is also eagerly waiting for our uncle to come back from the moon to liberate us from the servants of Satan? Yea, I'm gonna go with that.
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No.419065
>>418998
Don't do it. I'm downloading(or at least waiting on seeders) the second chapter of the audiobook.
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No.419067
Welp, I got bamboozled. The audiobook confirms this.
I guess I'm not downloading anything from Z-library anymore.
Why would anyone do this, though? It seems like they've added one page to the book just to have Guilliman powerfist this guy. Why?
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No.419071
>>419067
For teh lulz, what else.
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No.419182
Bought a reaver titan for titanicus recently. I'm gonna try and ork it up to convert into a meka dread. Any ideas? So far I was gonna add some extra shoulder plating and a skull. Gonna try and make a forcefield projector too.
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No.419186
>>419182
Give it a big toothy jaw. Add more plates to it. Put some more barrels on it as well.
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No.419187
how do I counter knights with death guard
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No.419196
Some time ago I upped some Gotrek and 40k books. >>>/pdf/1025
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No.419204
>>419187
Casually: stop playing with people who bring knights.
Competitively: Knights have very few defenses against psychic powers and mortal wound spam, so focus on these. I would also take some Pox walker/ cultist blobs to secure objectives before the knights. alternatively take a chaos knight with double battle cannons
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No.419243
>>419187
Plopping some of the schyte termies should also do the trick, at least you'd be more or less guaranteed to kill one. A Leviathan or Decimator with dual Soulburners should also do the trick.
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No.419253
>>419187
Or take the meme option, buy a warhound with twin turbo lasers and show the knight spamming fuck what it truly means to be That Guy.
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No.419256
>>419067
Was fun while it lasted.
Also /tg/ has fallen off top boards! Must be rectified
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No.419262
So where is Vulkan in the M41/42? Did he just fuck off altogether after the war of the beast? What about Russ? Is hunting heretics with warp powers too like Corvus?
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No.419270
>>419256
/tg/: Where the only thing that matters is the meta!
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No.419274
>>416704
You play Delaque, anything you do will be called cheese.
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No.419288
>>419187
==Hellforged Cerberus Heavy Destroyer== Kill something shitty with it then use its bonus to kill the Knight.
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No.419308
>>419256
>Must be rectified
I believe you mean rectum fried.
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No.419310
>>419262
Hes hiding somewhere until the salamanders find all of his relics or some shit.
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No.419319
>>419310
But hiding where? Out-orkz'ing Orkz? Did he find a planet populated entirely by dark chocolate babes?
Also the audiobooks for the primarch novels are really good. I just finished listening/reading the Russ one and chapter 5 hit pretty fucking hard. I never really considered the state of mind of primarchs during that period.
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No.419324
>>419262
He, Corvus, Russ, Jaghatai and possibly Dorn, are all too busy with an uncovered cache of Vid-reels that the Emperor had collected over time. Each time they "disappeared," it was just the last time someone outside of the Custodes saw them. I'm sure the reason Guilimann didn't uncover it was because he wasn't invited to it in the first place.
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No.419338
>>419319
Vulkan found a nice agri-world to settle down and start a farm/be the village blacksmith. Just like he always wanted.
Just like Corvus is busy being Emo in the warp, hunting Lorgar.
Jaghatai is busy managing his Dark Eldar harem, or being some Haemonculus's guinea pig
Russ is stalking around Sortarius waiting for the day he can shove Magnus the Nerd into a locker one more time.
And Dorn is hiding on the Vengeful Spirit pretending to be one of the crystal ghosts, he periodically leaves to hurl abuse at Abaddon.
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No.419381
>>419338
>Jaghatai is busy managing his Dark Eldar harem, or being some Haemonculus's guinea pig
Whatever it is, I'm not sure I want to find out.
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No.419387
>>419274
Yeah. I found that out the hard way at a local campaign. I changed to instead have some plasma pistols instead of the hand flamers, but I still played mostly against people with no infrared while all of my gang had infrared.
I now usually play cawdor since no one wanted to play against delaque, but now I am getting the same problem with people mad about the crossbow. Everyone doesn't mind van saar plasma spam though since that is the most popular gang here.
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No.419439
>>413861
> as the DAoT humans were not 8foot slabs of meat that required far larger buttons and chairs.
They used power armour, and those suits weren't skin-tight, either. That was about the only toy Imperium managed to improve.
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No.419440
>>419439
>they used power armor
For farming?
Shit, DAoT humans were fucking radical.
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No.419445
Should I read Master of Mankind?
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No.419490
I HEAR TELL THAT SQUATS ARE BACK
IS THIS TRUE
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No.419501
>>419490
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Grendl-Grendlsen-Squat-Bounty-Hunter-2018
There you go, one Squat.
>>419439
Dark Age humanity didn't use power armor. Or at least, what we call power armor. They did use Terminator armor for working in hazardous areas but that's about the extent. Besides, why would they need to do anything remotely dangerous when they had robots do everything?
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No.419522
>>419501
>Besides, why would they need to do anything remotely dangerous when they had robots do everything
For fun and personal safety. Also on Earth there were no good mass produced power armor, but on mining planets it sounds like a good idea, but they used fucking Ambulls as servitors and they looked like generic power armor, but it was just robot and only brains were used (as far as I understand, there are not that much info on that).
>>419439
Imperium improved a lot of shit by making it not genocidal towards humanity. But in the end every fucking race except Tau and tyranids (probably) has some doomsday devices and other cool shit "stashed away".
>>419490
Sure, everyone is back. GW basically returning everything they made but forgotten these days.
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No.419528
>>419522
I really like the ambot's design. I might get a model just for the heck of it.
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No.419536
>>419490
Just use the AoS sky Dwarfs and play squat marines. It’s what I do. I actually had the idea of making a Horus Heresy Militia/Cult Army using nothing but fantasy and AoS dwarf models with some ogres filling in as Ogryn and some Empire models for the characters, I’m probably not the first and definitely won’t be the last.
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No.419561
Kill team elite is pretty neat. Makes certain factions more interesting and viable while not being entirely retarded like kill team commanders was. It does have cheaper options for kill team commanders which is nice since most of the options were a bit ridiculous in a 150 point game. It also adds a lot more than arena.
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No.419562
>>419522
Ambulls are a 40k thing. Back in the day they'd just use pure robots, no point making servitors.
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No.419566
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>419490
Don't you know the new trend?
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No.419568
If anyone needed another reason to not buy from GW, Trump just instituted a tariff on vidya and tabletop games. So, watch GW use this as an excuse to fuck burgers as hard as they did the Australians.
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No.419569
>>419568
The tariff is for products coming from china, not europe.
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No.419605
So the autists that go nuclear over "airbrush using cheaters" are going to have a fucking stroke with contrast paints huh?
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No.419620
I admit to not having played the boardgame, only knowing 40k through the vidya and books, so I have a couple of questions.
>How strong are Spess Muhrines in the actual board game, since they go from super death gods that can take on titans in books and vidya to jobbers for other SMs
>How are imperial psykers handled in the board game? Do they get a chance to fuck themselves up or be possessed on using psyker shit? Do Chaos players gain any benefits from enemy imperial psykers?
>Is mechanicus gothic dubstep canon?
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No.419621
>>419620
They're better than the basic infantry of most other armies, but that comes at cost, typically being twice or three times the cost of other armies base infantry. This means that when you start taking causalities, you really feel it. That guardsman may be crappier in every conceivable way compared to your marine, but there's three times as many of him as there is of you. I'd argue that they're real strength is hitting on 3's in shooting, and the fact that a +3 save becomes a +2 in cover, making them much more durable.
>psykers
Imperial psykers just suffer mortal wounds if they miscast, there's no chance of them becoming possessed. Only the Renegades and Heretics Malefic Lord can become possessed, but he's 80 fucking points in an index army, so why the fuck would you ever run him?
Dubstep of any kind is probably borderline heretical
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No.419622
>>419621
What do Psykers do ingame though? Just cast magic warp bolts/lightning?
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No.419623
>>419620
SM are more of a jack-of-all-trades army than the power houses that you read about. Although, BA are probably the strongest army currently. They're forgiving as in if you screw up or something happens that you did not expect to happen to your army, you're not gonna get screwed over. Unlike the IG or Eldar, if something like genestealers or another dedicated assault units hits them.
Psykers loose out on the crazy warpshenanigans in 8th. In HH however, your psyker can get fucked up.
No, but its is for Slaanesh
>>419622
Anything from their chosen list, or school or whatever. So they could cast your basic Smite all the way to auroras or buff or even summoning demons. Rule book also says that there is no issue with a Chaos Sorceror using "Divine," skills or if an Imperial psyker uses Daemonology. but, you'd have to have some kind of justification for doing so.
>>419605
>airbushing is cheating
That's a new one.
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No.419626
>>419623
I thought divine and daemonology didn't exist anymore?
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No.419636
Are gorkanauts worth taking, or should I just take an equivalent amount of points worth of some of the new buggies?
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No.419670
>>419626
Yeah, technically they don't. But Malefic Discipline is pretty much the same thing as Daemonology.
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No.419672
>>419622
Pretty much what you expect from magic users. Some buffs, some debuffs, some teleport, magic bullets, etc.
Also all chaos SM characters can summon demons, even without psykers. Also psy powers are nothing unique really, necrons use their bullshit powers just in different phase.
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No.419679
>>419569
That means most GW books and cards at least. They already had that gardening video a while back where they are revealing some of the new treefolk stuff in AOS and mention its set back because China problems with the book.
>>419605
People only whine at airbrush either because they're poorfags that can't afford one, or they've seen too many of the "professionally painted" armies that some studios do where it's all just really lazy airbrushing. At least everyone can afford this new shit so you'd have to be super autistic even beyond the average tabletop player to whine at this.
>>419636
Morkanaut with a KFF is pretty useful, especially if you have a lot of transports, kans or similar that can get within the bubble. I don't really play either, but I doubt I'd take the Gorkanaut though.
That being said, the buggies aren't really much worth it either, the Skrapjet is pretty decent and the Dragsta can be useful, but I'd skip on the others.
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No.419680
>>419679
I run 100 boyz and 12 mek guns, so a KFF is of dubious usefulness. I was thinking about the buggies cause they're about 100 points each, but I might end up just taking flyers. I was turned off of the morkanaut because of the low amount of firepower it's main gun puts out.
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No.419681
>>419680
Skrapjets should probably be useful then, possibly some old rokkit buggies as well, to harass vehicles.
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No.419682
>>419681
Are the old buggies still worth taking? I've thought about it, but I'm not sure how well they hold up. I've definitely thought about taking the skrapjet, if only because of fond memories of Deff Skwadron.
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No.419683
I have been playing Chapter Master again and it baffles me that although filled with bugs and crashes I'm still having fun. Forever I will be wishing that Duke hadn't quit or at least had left the game without game breaking bugs.
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No.419684
>>419682
72 points for M14" T5 W5 with 24" assault 2 rokkits. 1-5 squad and can outflank.
100 points for M10" T6 W9 with 24" assault 2d3 rokkits, 24" assault 1 rokkit with +1 to hit against vehicles, twin big shoota, spiked ram and essentially a powerfist CCW. 1-2 squad, explodes on a 6. Strangely enough it has 4+ WS versus the buggy's 3+
I'd really want both to be honest. The outflank on the regular buggies is really useful and with the extra speed that more than makes up for the lower dakka and toughness, while a couple of scrapjets are great for running along with the boyz and hopefully charging into something in the end.
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No.419763
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No.419764
>>419023
>Rouge Trader days
How a new version of Rogue Trader should be done ? and how much 80's Glam Metal should be in it ?
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No.419792
>>419763
I guess you could say that they're Elfrican Americans.
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No.419843
These new Sisters of Battle models are fairly eh, they look like they are missing detail/unfinished
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No.419846
>>419843
They got a boob reduction
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No.419848
>>419843
That's probably just because they're scaled up 3d renders. Considering they are going to be regular 28mm humans the detail seems about right. I'm more concerned about how they will function ingame. I hope they get something more heavy than that Deimos rhino they teased or it's going to be hard to run a squad of multimeltas up into the face of that knight.
>>419846
Yea, the guns block their torsos but from the looks of it, their whole corset is gone. Then again, this might be specific for the heavies, the other new model we've seen was just like the old design. Though being heavies I'd rather see them with more heavy armour than lighter.
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No.419849
>>419846
The other didnt seem that way.
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No.419871
>>419849
I would say that maybe we're getting multiple boob sizes but that wouldn't make any sense since it was all armor in the first place anyway.
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No.419873
>>419871
I want a "Ara ara" oneesan with huge tidders for the Hospitallier and a tsundere loli with twintails as a Seraphim character. I hope there's also a option to make your commander a drill-haired oujosama.
Who am I kidding. I guess I'll keep my eyes on Wargame Exclusive.
Also, if anyone here is active on that cesspool called Twitter, could you ask Kingdom Death to consider minting some sets of headswaps? I imagine that would sell very well whether its specifically geared towards sisters or not.
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No.419875
>>419873
Im all in for idols of battle, in fact, i played one in DH.
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No.419879
>>419873
The biggest thing they should've worked on was trying to make not-terrible female faces/heads. Those two models posted are probably the extent of their stance for said unit. Kinda like how Havocs now only have one pose.
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No.419883
>>419873
I can't even pay for a good 3D print right now but I guess I can spend some time fixing these for you if you do anon.
How much titty and how much anime
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No.419903
>>419879
GW seems dead set on making every model monopose, with little to no variation outside of weapons and whether or not your guy wears a helmet or not. Primaris are the worst offenders, of course, but a lot of space marine characters even before Primaris were monopose and required some clippers and sometimes green stuff to even swap weapons.
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No.420120
New enforcers, and some kind of new cultists Just give me my LatD already GW, I'm on my fucking knees begging you
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No.420130
Hey Chrow, your Crow pals are here! I'll happily shit on AoS but these Chaos gangs look pretty rad.
>>419883
Wow, those look pretty good already. I don't think giant tits would look good on the regular corset boobplate though, I suppose a different outfit would be better, which shouldn't be too out of place at least for a support character like a Hospitalier.
>>420120
Yea, they should just make two different full 10-man MPPKs, one with traitor guardsmen with the usual loadouts and then something more barbarian like these guys, with different loadout options to make more of a CC horde.
Hell, they could do it even easier if they wanted to, just like they added a extra sprue for boltpistols and chainsword with the Tzaangors they could do the same with the fantasy Khorne and Tzeentch cultists.
Between those two options we'd have more than enough general infantry, and would just need a upgrade sprue for vehicles similar to what GSC got, a kit of Chaos Ogryn to go with the boss that's with the Commissar (whenever they decide to release those) and we pretty much have all we need. A plastic Malcador or Macharius would be great too.
And wow, I had almost forgotten how horrible that new Rogue Trader mud-wamen looked. I guess it can be salvaged by replacing the head with another spare from KD or something. Not sure about that leg though.
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No.420140
>>420120
Enforcers could literally be Mass Effect armor designs. GW really seems to be mixing generic sci fi with Age of Shitmar aesthetics, with legacy space gothic/punk. The latter always decreasing since they have good enough molds to make r e a l i s t i c poses and proportions.
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No.420144
>>420140
I can see it in the face mask, but the body armor actually reminds of the super old Imperial guard armor, from the rogue trader days.
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No.420153
>>420120
I'm glad they brought Necro and the Abrites back. But the new look for most of the gangs has always looked like Infinity more than 40k. The guns and helmets look like they're from something else entierly. Just look at Van Saar. Hell, they should offer the old sculpts again like they did with the Fantasy armies.
>More cultists for blackstone
>and more characters
They ought to just make it the "rpg version of 40k," already. Quit blue-balling us on the R&H and Not-Mordheim-in-AoS.
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No.420154
>>420144
Yea, plus a big carapace piece like that with rivits on it isn't exactly common in more generic modern-aesthetic scifi. With that over their uniforms they pretty much look like uparmoured guardsmen, if you disregard the helmets.
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No.420158
>>420154
>>420144
It's probably that I just hate the face masks then. Primaris is a whole other can of shit but I dislike them 40% for the face masks.
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No.420170
>>420158
I'm with you on that, they look a little too close to Primarine/MKIV helmets. Luckily there's innumerable options to swap them with, like pic related. Puppetswar also have a discount campaign for heads now, guess it's time to grab couple or 20.
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No.420172
>>420170
Speaking of which, it seems Puppetswar are pretty based, maybe they know that 13 do 50?
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No.420185
>>420120
Not bad Arbites, but not enough Judge Dredd.
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No.420187
>>420185
From what I understand they're not supposed to be Arbite proper, rather they're the local law enforcement of a given planet.
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No.420198
Speaking of Necromunda, the new book has a event where you can get attacked by slime monsters, does anyone know a good source of slime miniatures?
I figured it would be cooler to have actual models and cook up a statline for them. Maybe have a scenario where there's a bunch of slimes you have to cut through to find a rare metal slime hiding amongst them.
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No.420200
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No.420237
>>420185
>>420187
There are popular misconception that every cop in wh40k is adeptus arbites. Also I am almost sure PDF do not count as Imperial guard (but that is probably completely forgotten by everyone).
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No.420240
>>420237
The arbites are like the FBI of the imperium, not regular cops.
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No.420243
>>420237
Not every planet’s police force is Arbites. But on a place like Necromunda where gangs fight in the streets, I would not be surprised if the Arbiters didn’t keep a small garrison there just to be safe.
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No.420246
>>420198
Just swirl a lump of hot glue on a round base and call it a day.
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No.420249
>>420187
>>420237
>>420240
>>420243
All cops are arbites, you're the ones that are a misconception.
There is but one law in the imperium, the Lex Imperialis which is an imperial codex, which is an actual thing, the most recent IRL is Napoleonic Code, which he bootlegged from the Roman emperors. It's the basis of most of the non-english world laws (and almost the complete opposite of the "common law" concept). Which is enforced solely by the Arbites.
Now because there is but one law doesn't mean there aren't local "rules"... which needs "Enforcers".
>The arbites are like the FBI of the imperium, not regular cops.
Nah it's more like the Arbites are the actual police, while the "Enforcers" are mall cops.
Enforcers are called that because they "enforce" the will of the local ruler (within the confines of the Lex Imperialis) upon the locals.
The Inquisition would be the FBI. An inquisitor jurisdiction is the whole imperium, an Arbites jurisdiction is just his precinct.
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No.420250
>>420249
>Now because there is but one law doesn't mean there aren't local "rules"... which needs "Enforcers".
That's literally what laws are, though. The rules set in place by a given ruler. There can be two sets of laws that both apply, like how in the US you have the federal law and the state law. The arbites enforce Imperial law, and the enforcers enforce planetary law.
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No.420264
>>420249
I've been reading up on it a little and the distinction seems to be rather a grey area. There are definitely Arbites that enforce Imperial rule over a planet and monitor the Planetary Governor to ensure his loyalty and his Tithes are paid, but Arbites also seem to have a more local role which overlaps with what is described as "Enforcers".
Check out the 2nd Ed Codex Imperialis entry for Arbites which explicitly says that Arbites don't concern themselves with petty day-to-day crimes, but then also says that Arbites will patrol the underways of hives, break up vicious "queue wars" outside government buildings and have detectives that will look through holo-records and pursue cyber-criminals.
It's kind of inconsistent.
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No.420268
>>420264
>Arbites also seem to have a more local role
If there is something really illegal going on. In general they can butt in on anything local police force does. They can do whatever they want if they suspect something. But usually they have more important stuff to do. If some noble house dealing with xenos(like tau or eldar), arbitres supposed to deal with it. If that house dealing with some weird xenos you probably will expect arbitres calling inquisition on their ass, while still working on it.
Not to forget the fact that there are ranking system, so one guy might work on smuggling alien slaves case on a planet and other working on similar case but involving tens of planets all around the sector. Just like inquisition. Technically inquisition can demand anything, but it depends completely on inquisitor standing and from whom he demands things.
In the end local police and arbitres and inqusition can work on the same case furthermore peacefully. You may say that its redundant, but there supposedly only a few arbitres in each system. Also inquisition does whatever each inquisitor pleases, more or less in anarchic structure. While arbitres work as a real organisation with areas of operations.
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No.420274
So why exactly did the primarchs turn traitor? I understand Horus, Fulgrim, Logar Curze and Angron. I do not understand
>Magnus: Who realizes he fucked up hard in warning the emperor, then going full emo and letting prospero burn without even explaining himself to Russ, before going "i dindu nuffin you severed an innocent neck"
>Perturabo: Who by the end of his book realizes what a dick he has been and his failings, and seemed to have had a slight change of heart and a want for redemption after offering some minute leniency to the survivors of olympia
>Alpharius/Omegon whose entire cabal subplot is kind of murky
>Mortarion who hasn't shown up once in any of the books I've read
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No.420275
Fuck, I knew I'd missed some good KD models, and pic related would've been perfect to mod into a SoB character. They really should have some kind of poll or wishlist system to gauge which models people want reruns of.
>>420264
>>420268
Either way, makes for a perfect opportunity to make a Arbites character that the Enforcers can recruit.
>>420274
Morty was pissed at Emps for killing his local foster father and denying him the chance to get his revenge in person. Then I guess he just got to be a better buddy with Horus
Russ went in for the kill from the start due to astropathic messages being corrupted, and I suppose Magnus took that as a sign that Emps had already decided to kill him anyway.
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No.420279
>>420274
>Mortarion
Mortarion and the whole of the Death Guard were stuck in the warp due to the traitorous actions of Typhon. They all got Nurgled hard and pledged to him to end their suffering. Before that though Mortarion sided against the Emperor because he recognized the golden throne as warp tech and considered the Emperor to be a hypocrite not to mention he was still nursing a grudge over the Emperor killing his foster father when they were first reunited.
>Perturabo
I think he felt that he had just gone too far and would never get forgiveness so he just defaulted to the traitor side.
>>Magnus
He was pretty much just tricked into turning after his back was put up against the wall and he despaired to see everything that he had built and all the knowledge and civilization of Prospero about to be destroyed by a bunch of hairy barbarians. At that point he just said "Fuck it! Tzeentch take the wheel." Also at that point he wasn't a whole entity after being shattered by Russ so only the Crimson King turned traitor.
>Alpharius/Omegon
NO BODY KNOWS
It's not even known if either or both were actually traitors or not.
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No.420282
>>420274
>without even explaining himself to Russ
Russ the Executioner. Also tzeentch fuckery. Also emperor being a giant dick(which is common reason in many cases).
>by the end of his book realizes what a dick he has been
>should I change myself? Nah, I just stay as a dick!
>Alpharius/Omegon
Muh mysterious ways.
>>420275
>Russ went in for the kill from the start due to astropathic messages being corrupted
Not exactly. Message was corrupted but he decided to do what real message said by himself but in the end it did not matter one bit.
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No.420289
>>420274
What I dislike about the HH novels is that they've taken the emphasis away from Horus as it's instigator and put it more at the Word Bearers. So it's more like the Kor Phaeron Heresy, or the Erebus Heresy. Since all the others were downstream of those individuals. Horus just got stabbed with a magic sword that spontaneously made him evil - it wasn't any inherent character flaw or failing that the Chaos Gods exploited to turn him. Fulgrim also lost his agency in his fall as it wasn't any desires of his own that damned him, he just happened to pick up a magic sword from slaanesh aliens.
This takes a lot away from the narrative because the point of the Primarchs was to show that even though you had these demigod beings, they still had human souls which were flawed, vulnerable and open to corruption from the dark mirror the Warp. If they get turned just because of a magic thingy then it takes all that aspect out of it.
>Magnus: Got cornered and basically forced to turn after he failed to warn the Emperor of Horus' betrayal and broke his Dad's webway thing
>Perturabo: Sulked into becoming traitor because he was used and abused by others, never really asserted himself. If he'd been less of an autist he prob would have remained loyal.
>Alpharius/Omegon: No one knows anything about the motivations here, or even whether either or both are dead or alive. Assuming what happened in Legion is correct, they joined Horus to ensure he would win, destroy humanity and then cause the Warp to recede from influencing the galaxy to the extent that it was. But this didn't happen so either the Cabal prophecy was a lie or it refers to Abaddon instead. I don't know if there's much evidence to suggest they're secretly loyalists, but they could be taking their own side with their own unknown objectives.
>Mortarion: He was butthurt about psykers and then Typhus marooned the Death Guard in the Warp and got them infected with diseases until they were forcibly converted. Mortarion can't be 100% happy about his predicament so even though there's no foreshadowing of it I could see there being the possibility that he flips back somehow in some minor way, but that's just personal opinion.
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No.420292
>>420279
>Alpharius/Omegon
>We glow in the dark. We don't need to explain shit.
Dorn didn't kill Alpharius
Alpharius lives
glows twice
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No.420302
>>420274
Alpha and Omeg is probably the one that will be least explained. Alpharius was killed on Pluto by Dorn. Since Omegon isn't confirmed to actually exsist, or even if he did, his choice during the whole Heresy remains unkown. Supposedly, he was the Loyalist while Alpharius was the traitor. But with the Cabal, that just complicated things. Alpharius went for horus because the whole; "If Horus wins, Chaos loses." So he was technically "loyal". Omegon on the other hand probably was more overy-loyal than Alpharius. Since he's Alphariuses dual-nature, it could be assumed that while Omegon was loyal, his attitude towards the Cabal was more disagreeing. Thus, he would be helping Chaos out in the long run. IF the Cabal's "warning, plot, theory, etc." is correct.
>>420289
Yeah, its more "Lorgars Lunacy" than Horus Heresy. The sad thing is that almost everytime they tell the story it changes. So we went from: "He was possesed!" to "He was corrupted" to "He was fooled!" to "He got stabbed by a McGuffan and now hes a bad guy!" Same shit with the big show-down at the end.
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No.420321
>>420274
Magnus wasn’t in any position to refuse Tzeentch when he came calling, seeing as how Russ had pretty much shattered his soul and the Magnus that came back was more of a psychic gestalt of different facets of his personality.
Perturabo realized he was in to deep after he turned his home planet into a giant staging area for the 4th Legion by killing most of the original populace and enslaving the rest. Topping things off by killing his adopted sister, the only person in Olympia he cared about, in a fit of rage.
As other Anons have said, Mortarion hated the Emperor for being a hypocrite when it came to psykers and for denying him his revenge against his adopted father on Barbarus. Then Typhus trapped him in a warp storm and tortured him with disease until he turned to Nurgle for release.
Alpharius and Omegon are complicated, as everything involving the Alpha Legion is. Essentially, Alpharius joined the traitors because a group of Xenos and human perpetual told him that the only way to defeat chaos was for Horus to win, since then humanity would die and Chaos would starve itself. However, it is theorized that the brothers played both sides, either because they disagreed with one another, or because they wanted to hedge their bets. As it stands, Alpharius was killed by Dorn on Pluto, and Omegon was killed by Guilliman later on. Or were they?
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No.420324
>>420289
>So it's more like the Kor Phaeron Heresy, or the Erebus Heresy
Yes.
>Mortarion can't be 100% happy about his predicament
At some point most traitors just decided "I dont give a fuck anymore, I will go with the flow".
And in most cases it was not as much about being evil as much as about colossal assholes. Whole thing is fucking petty.
>>420302
>everytime they tell the story it changes
20 different authors, each with his favorite characters and vision.
>>420321
>Chaos would starve
In current fluff chaos dont give two shits about materium. They take easy to steal things, but otherwise they just fight with each other. The only reason for Horus heresy was the fact that Emps could actually destroy all of them.
What I am wondering about is the fact that Cadia was important because it was shielded from warp storms around EoT and as result it was the only reliable way to leave EoT. But not its destroyed and storms are stronger than ever and yet chaos dont have any problem navigating in them for some reason. Except when navigating to Dark Imperium, I guess.
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No.420389
>>420289
>Mortarion flipping back
He's a Daemon at this point though. Even if enough of his own self remains to kindle any amount of doubt over his current path, he'd just be dooming himself and becoming a target for both sides.
>>420324
Chaos is still fueled by the activity of material beings though, both the Emperor and the Cabals' plans in the current fluff aimed specifically at starving Chaos off one way or another. Even if the gods hadn't been so consciously active in the materium, they'd still be a huge threat to humanity as more and more psykers got born.
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No.420439
Can you guys give me feedback on my list, I'm using basically all the models I have currently, except I have to use two empty bases for the other two blight haulers and a dreadnought as a hellbrute (FLGS is cool with it though I already asked)
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No.420467
When's that fucking faggot emperor getting off his fat ass already god damn
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No.420478
>>420467
fat
The Emperor has been skipping everything day for thousands of years, he's the ultimate hungry skeleton.
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No.420481
>>420439
Can you have ten termies in a land raider now? Or are they slogging it?
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No.420484
>>420478
I liked him better when he was an angry hungry skeleton managing Imperium with an skeleton fist.
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No.420489
>>420439
>>420481
Yea, you only get 5 termies in the Landraider so I don't see much point in having it there. I'd ditch it and get in some of the support characters like the Blightspawn guy or a caster, maybe a rhino for the marines. Possibly field the LR as a count-as Plague crawler, which is pretty decent when used aggressively to push up the midfield along with the Haulers.
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No.420492
>>420439
>20poxwalkers in unit
Are there any benefits in having a big unit of them?
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No.420496
>>420492
They get +1 WS if there's over 10. I'd probably field 2 blobs of 20 at least, but if he's got model limitations then it is what it is.
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No.420511
One of you has to have the .slt files for these, right?
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No.420546
>>420492
+1 WS and makes it a bit easier to get kills by ganging up if you're relying on curse of the walking pox. Also helpful if you want to keep them close to Typhus or Necrosis.
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No.420564
>>420489
>>420492
Thanks guys, I actually have three land raiders (got 3 for $100 back when I had cash) so I'll drop the land raider and see how many of those fellas I can fit in
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No.420565
Alright so I updated the list, proxying 40 of the poxwalkers with 40 various random shit I have including regular space marines, painted and unpainted guardsmen, GOOD THING I ONLY PLAY CASUALS HUH, then also proxying two rusty lemons and a land raider as my crawlers
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No.420566
>>420565
fuck I actually forgot to post the updated list
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No.420597
>>420511
AWAKEN MY MASTERS
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No.420600
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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No.420625
How are these dudes lookin'?
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No.420632
>>420625
First of all, what are these made of? Fire warriors/guardsmen and sculpting clay?
Also,
>That skeleton smoking a joint off to the side
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No.420633
>>420625
>>420625
they look awful but in a charming way
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No.420637
>>420633
This, they look yes-fun.
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No.420644
>>420625
I dig the skeleton on the right. Otherwise I can't tell who they're supposed to be. Are these Eldar?
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No.420645
>>420625
THIN YOUR PAINTS.
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No.420648
>>420250
>That's literally what laws are
No it's not.
You guys are mixing different concepts together.
Jurisdiction is different than legal domains.
Local police and FBI both enforces the law. Inquisition and Arbites both enforce the law.
Mall cops enforces rules. Enforcers enforces rules.
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No.420665
>>420566
Yea that looks pretty decent. Not sure you'd need that many crawlers though. If you expect there to be knights, you might want to count one of the termie squads as manreaper guys instead, so you can drop in and try to kill it right away.
Also, I don't know if you've bought the new kits or what, but if you ever feel like you need more PMs outside of the starter, the ETB box and one of the new kits, I'd recommend getting a box of MKIII instead of another PM kit. Yes, you lose out on another set of special weapons, but between converting, third parties and bitz sellers, it's not hard to get by, and the MKIII box gets you a full 10 guys that are a whole lot more customizable than the regular PM kit. Same goes for any new termies, the Cataphractii box has a lot of base bitz and Manreapers can for example be gotten as a upgrade kit from FW.
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No.420666
>>420249
>There is but one law in the imperium
The Imperium is portrayed as being incredibly feudalistic and every institution has it's own set of laws that govern it's domains and adepts.
The Lex Imperialis (as enforced by the Adeptus Arbites) is at a higher level and covers crimes against the Imperium itself.
Enforcers et al are pretty much the lowest tier, enforcing laws at a particular locality only (e.g. a city, a settlement or a hive section).
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No.420690
Could anyone ell me about smoke grenades in necromunda? They cannot be shot through or charged through, but can flamers or blast weapons be shot through them? We have been playing it where no one can shoot through them, but it feels like no one is having fun because of it.
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No.420701
>>420632
They're a dollar a dozen, fifteen year old plastic soldiers I had laying around.
>>420644
You have one guess.
>>420645
The gold didn't thin right, I'll be sure to thin further paints.
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No.420702
>>420701
Meant to include this image
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No.420703
>>420702
The skeleton on a toilet is my favorite.
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No.420714
>>420702
The thumbnail makes the second to last from the left look like Mega Man.
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No.420715
>>420714
The right I mean.
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No.420721
>>420702
The skeleton is still the best part.
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No.420737
On a scale of 1 to stupid, where does a Lord Discordant with Fleshmetal Exoskeleton and Unholy Fortitude fall?
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No.420742
I need this meme but with CHAOS. I know I've seen it around here.
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No.420745
>>420742
but anon, that is chaos.
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No.420746
>>420742
TFW you know its there somewhere but all your memes and gay shit is randomly spread over a thousand folders and you can't find it within 10 minutes.
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No.420760
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No.420783
>>420746
TFW Google is making it purposely impossible to find dank memes, and in this new world, the only way to spread them is from anon to anon, from hard drive to hard drive, like the stories of old.
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No.420786
>>420746
>>420783
Jesus Christ lurk more. You type like someone’s dad
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No.420794
>>420786
My good man, I apologize for my crass vernacular. Pray tell, what is the proper language in which to express my antecedent statement? >>420783 . Additionally, I must mention that I do not claim authorship of this post: >>420746 . It belongs to another gentleman. Kind regards,
Anon
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No.420825
>>420783
Well, you know, unless your memes are about niggers raping and burning white women or hanging white children, it's not allowed on the internet these days and if you're looking for something that isn't allowed, whether its' electronic music on jewtube or hate-symbole memes you're probably a ____ist.
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No.420905
>aos and primaris are going to kill geedu-
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No.420940
>>420905
Smegmar SHOULD kill GW. I don't understand how it sells at all with how bland the setting is. Chad marines are genius though since it all but forces people to slowly replace the most played army.
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No.420941
>>420940
>i just dont understand how it sells
It is time to diminish and sail to Valinor and fade away old man.
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No.420947
>>420941
Alright market king, explain the draw of the mortal realms over the old world
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No.420949
>>420940
You sound like an SJW.
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No.420953
>>420940
Have you seen the price of GW official figs lately?
One basic marine is £3.5. Complicated ones are between £8.5 and £15 THE FIG. There are infantry conversion 10 part kits at £15.
Add the licensing deals, the insane price on the knights (£100 a pop) and it would take a miracle for them not to turn a profit.
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No.420955
>>420949
>Age of Sigmar is boring
>Y-you sound like a SJW
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No.420956
>>420949
>NOOOO
>HOW CAN YOU NOT LIKE FEMMARINES
>MUSCLE GIRLS ARE BASED
Kek, cry more nigger you people stick out like a sore thumb
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No.420957
>>420956
I agree with the overall message but I'm really not sure how you took that away from it.
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No.420958
>>420947
>over the old world.
And theres your problem.
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No.420959
>>420958
What was wrong with it? The popularity of Total Warhammer at least proves the setting still draws people in. I would say the reason Fantasy didn't sell is the bloat that had creeped into the game over the years and most people not wanting to buy massive blocks of infantry.
There's really nothing remotely interesting about the Mortal Realms. Games Workshop just gives you these vague ideas of places and the conflicts that take place but they don't feel remotely concrete.
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No.420960
>>420956
You are a whiny bitch who is mad that corporations are not virtue signalling the way you want them to. You are mad at people enjoying things you don't enjoy. You feel like the majority (as proven by sales numbers in this case) should bed the knee to your niche interests. Hence, you're being an SJW over this.
Also, as I am a glorious shota trap irl, I love me some muscle girls I think Femmarines are bullshit. Just give me more buff sisters of battle in 40k,
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No.420962
>>420960
>as I am a glorious shota trap irl
Meanwhile at Anon's house
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No.420965
>>420960
>virtue signalling
Don't use words if you don't know what they mean.
>as I am a glorious shota trap irl
So you're an ugly, fat, balding short guy. Just like all the other trannies.
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No.420969
>>420959
Whats wrong is the continued perception that they are the same game anymore than Blood Bowl is. Even if the End Times didn't happen a game system like age of sigmar would have happened and just been called War Cry or Skirmish. Its a separate game to fantasy that takes place 3000 years after its apocalypse. Thats a sequel, not a true replacement. Thats what editions are for. The issue with Fantasy was a company not making any money on it and having no direction where to take a rank and flank game so they retired it. They also retired blood bowl, necomunda, space hulk and so on.
GW can easily just make another edition of WHFB. The trouble is solving the issues the last had. Storywise AoS has already established there isn't just 40k and fantasy. There is a multiverse of warhammer all connected by the warp. The chaos gods are the constant between. They specifically said the reason Slaanesh went for the elves in the end times is because they are so similar to the eldar that created it. They already sowed the seeds to bring stuff like Dark Future back and thats itself a seperate timeline where the emperor was never born and humanity stayed mad max but a thunderhawk fell out the warp and was cannibalised for weapon brands like 'krakk brand grenados'. There are currently at least 4 warhammer universes running in parallel. They could easily split fantasy off from end times to go in a different direction to age of sigmar because its not the same game and each game bar kill team, war cry and maybe necromunda are all seperate.
The real issue of course is not writing WHFB back. Different timelime. Bam. Job done. The question is how to create a new edition of a rank and flank game and how to market it. Even should that happen -not impossible and could theoretically happen down the line- its not then going to remove age of sigmar anymore than 40k stopped space hulk existing.
The WHFB want that game to come back. That doesnt mean AoS existing is the reason thats not happening. Its finding the audience for fantasy and if they can do that then it will come back. It will just be an alternate to aos and nobody would complain. Hell the people i know who like AoS like the stuff that is remixing things like moonclan grots or strigoi ghouls because its a what if? of their fantasy armies, but they still play fantasy just like 40k players dont drop it for kill team but play both.
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No.421000
>>420965
You have values you think are virtuous. You wish to signal to other people like you that you share those values.
You don't have to be a rainbow haired faggot to use their tactics.
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No.421001
>>420969
>What if GW used common sense to bring back Fantasy?
It'd probably work. Problem is that GW and common sense cannot work together.
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No.421002
>>421001
Why would they cancel a money maker to go back to a game that was hemorrhaging money?
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No.421009
>>421000
horseshoe was always gay. everyone has an ideology that they want to see reflected in the society they participate in. no one is a nihilist content to accept anything. including you.
there's conflict over this because this society is alienating to everyone and fragmenting as result. and that's a good thing.
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No.421035
>>420825
>electronic music
Don't remind me.
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No.421036
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No.421037
So if Corvus got super edgy raven powers from being stuck in the warp, what powers are the rest of the loyalist primarchs who are stuck in the warp going to get?
Is khan's lower half a speed bike?
Has Leman Russ' mutated into a giant nightmare-looking fursuit?
I'm not a big fan of the more recent 40k lore, but I do want to see any of the loyalist primarchs returning and giving punished Robutt Girlyman a big brotherly hug.
>>421035
This is just a generic track you could find on any synthwave channel, why is it banned?
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No.421039
>>421037
>This is just a generic track you could find on any synthwave channel, why is it banned?
Heck if I know.
https://twitter.com/xuriousmusic/status/1136372934300393474
Varg's been banned too. Along with antivaxers, Alex Jones, and a whole spectrum of users. Can't have ideological dissidents on youtube. Also, if you search for anything "naughty" like questioning vaccine safety or the legitimacy of the EU's actions, your playlist will be filled with poz videos pushing the "correct" narrative.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47357252
https://gizmodo.com/youtube-is-going-to-bury-borderline-content-it-wont-te-1832162383
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-06/will-not-end-well-youtubes-latest-purge-extremist-content
YouTube ain't what it used to be.
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No.421040
>>421039
>Varg's been banned too
What? I can't stand that LARPagan fuck and even I think banning him is bullshit.
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No.421041
>why GW turned to profit
Even people who hate aos buy their shit. Imaging spending 10k$ on toys and than losing ability to play with them. Even people who hate it will still play it because muh investment. And while it might seem like a stupid idea but selling everly expensive products is a very profitable idea, even if people here will claim "but its jewish tricks!" Jewish tricks work even if you (people here) can see through them.
>>421037
>This is just a generic track you could find on any synthwave channel, why is it banned?
Illegal nazi notes obviously.
>>421037
I can see Russ turning into a space furry pirate and telling Imperium to fuck off. Imagine Russ fighting with Huron Blackhearth fighting is spess! Imagine both of them telling abaddon and girlyman to fuck off. Non-chaotic renegades is the best thing which could happen out of all of this.
Khan is probably completely fucking forgotten. I fucking hope they dont pull Angelic Sanguinius is now a ruler of dark-Imperium and he might be a demon wooo! So ambiguous, I am getting dark souls flashbacks! Its less than 10 chapters with ambiguous loyalty already, we really need more of these!
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No.421044
>>420959
Literally nobody cares about the AoS lore though, unless they are paid to do so. The only reason it's doing good is because the game, simplified as it is, plays pretty well, has consistent support (Or at least the impression of such), they keep releasing new stuff and it's not that horribly expensive. Apart from both the new dwarf factions, which seem to have flopped pretty hard, almost all the new stuff has been received well, and though I've yet to see anyone that actually likes smegmarines, they are usually very powerful and a easy babby's first army.
>>421002
First off that's wrong, it just wasn't selling as much as they wanted it to. Secondly, the reason it did so was because of the sloppy support and expensive entry cost. Remake WFB with at least the core mechanics coupled with the support AoS has (Endless spells should also be added in) and it would be just as, if not more profitable.
I mean, for fucks sake, they just brought Gortrek back into AoS. It should be clear to everyone that the AoS setting is only a vague tapestry that only works even remotely because of all the lore and character from the "Old World" is woven into it.
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No.421056
>>421044
>they are very powerful and usually babies first army.
Just like the space marines. What a coincidence.
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No.421066
>>421040
Some soft-brained faggots would probably like him being gone. Other soft-brained faggots (identifying as larpagan) celebrated when Notre-dame was burned. What both types of soft-brained faggots don't get is that this affects them all. Only the jew wins from this. We must recognize our common interests and common enemy and work for them, or we're royally fucked.
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No.421078
does anyone know what the range is of the main gun of a Leman Russ Incinerator?
Is it closer to a Multi-Melta or a Lascannon?
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No.421087
>>421078
>main gun of a Leman Russ Incinerator
45" It is a twin-linked volkite demi-culverin
Much closer to a lascannon
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No.421120
>>421087
Thanks, none of the stuff I was finding said much anything of its range.
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No.421167
>>421056
Yea, they're essentially a bad attempt at a forced meme. And somehow they've gotten worse, initially when they were essentially souls of heroes form the old world fused into armours they were at least somewhat different from their spacefaring counterparts, but now that they're seemingly just fucking huge humans (They had to do that so they could have ugly butch nigger wamen among them), there's really nothing remotely interesting about them.
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No.421208
>>421167
But aaanon, can you really blame someone for injecting their musclegrill femdom fetish into the game and lore?
yes you can. This is the same shit that turned me off X-piratez.
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No.421228
For the reroll tactic in 8th edition, does it allow you to reroll two dice when charging, or only one of the dice. Someone was telling me that you can reroll two dice when charging as shown by some faq.
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No.421229
>>421228
In wh40k 8e? You can use stratagem to reroll one dice and some stuff allows you to reroll failed charges(both dice only, cant reroll only one), like Icon of Wrath.
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No.421230
>>421044
The best thing about age of sigmar is the running joke of people describing their flesh eater courts as noble paladins, questing knights and heroic kings and watching one brettonian player get butthurt about it. Its cheap and its a lazy meme but it hasn't gotten old yet.
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No.421235
>>421208
Inserting any sort of sexual fetishism in any medium should be punishable.
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No.421247
>>421235
I'd allow it if it's some monkey's paw Slaaneshi type, pain is pleasure, corruption shit.
>I want hot babes to want me
>Okay, here's a legion of women on fire whose touch will melt your skin , also they want your dick
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No.421262
>>421230
We already lost our entire army why must you mock us too
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No.421324
>>421262
Because its the lowest effort memeshit and still wobbles jhonnies even at the FLGS
>Hey guys look at my paladin king on his noble pegasi
>Slams Abhorrent Ghoul King on Terroghiest on table
>Boy friend that sure is impressive, you can feel his regal aura
>Yeah man thats a paladin doing the lords work, can't imagine what brave, heroic knights work under him
>I bet his queen is a fair and gentle beauty of whom bards sing of from coast to coast!
>The whole time the brettonian player is flaring his nostrils and trying not to go full on AKCHUWALLEE because he knows we are doing it on purpose, he knows if he rises to it we get what we want and he knows we know that he knows.
Its the best irl shitposting since Legion of the Damned deep strike support bullshit or the death guard armies of 100 plague zombies and typhus from back in't day of the 13th black crusade.
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No.421366
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No.421367
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>421366
>not watching it in 4k
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No.421368
>>421366
I was just making a webm for this, but you went faster than me.
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No.421370
>>421366
>>421367
How does he do it?
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No.421372
>>419605
Contrast paints are just washes rebranded. >>419623
Some fags claim airbrushing is cheating. I think most of their problem is faggots with airbrushes don't use them properly and everything ends up looking shit and out of scale. It doesn't fit the model size but every problems a nail when you have a hammer.
>>419679
I have an airbrush and I don't like models painted with them mostly. They're fine for painting something large 28mm doesn't fit airbrushing for anything but a base coat. It's a fine tool for large models and for getting blends which are nearly impossible other wise. They were originally made for making 2D drawings look 3D with photo realistic blending. The people using them today don't have 1% of the skill the original users did. And I'm no exception.
Airbrushing and hand brushing should probably be in different categories in painting contests though. Completely different skill sets.
>>420940
Same reason MTG isn't dead. Faggots are loyal to the brand no matter what it does. But remember we're in a nerd bubble now. It's going to pop and then GW will be hit hard by alienating people.
>>421035
Xurious is a complete faggot who hangs around on homosexual alt right discords (not a meme, he actually does). It's obvious why he's banned and whining about it.
<What poz is GW pushing these days?
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No.421383
>>421367
>>421366
Okay, obviously psykers. But are they Astartes? They seem about the same height. So why would they be out of their armor? Unless their some sort of psyker-automaton??
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No.421392
>>421383
They are obviously Sigmarines who fell in with a group of rogue guardsmen after finding themselves transported to the 41st millennium. Their “psyker” powers are just residual winds of magic.
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No.421397
>>421366
>>421367
>only powers are a force field and hold enemy
pretty weak tbh. don't they at least have smite?
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No.421414
>>421383
>>421397
I'm not so sure they're psykers. That tech and their designs were uniform, their powers equal. I'd say either dark mechanicus electro-priests, or far flung survivors of the Olamic Quietude. Very little about them seemed 'chaosy' to me unless they were tip top tier, and their performance speaks to otherwise on that.
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No.421416
>>421230
It's not just a meme anymore, it's practically canon. From the few minutes i bothered to spend glossing over the lore part of their codex, they describe the main subfaction just like that. They even have Fleur de lis on the floors of the new scenery kit.
>>421247
I mean, if it's part of a plot concerning degenerate hedonists and such, that's one thing, but then it's part of that plot and not something that's just "inserted" into the pristine cavities of a otherwise virgin product.
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No.421425
>>421416
The long and short of it is Nagash cursed Ushoran, the original Strigoi, with unending madness for reasons unknown. Maybe he was the only end times survivor that didn't go with him as a henchman like the rest.
Then millenia later the stormcast accidentally let him out and his madness not only intensified but it was now contagious. He roams the land finding the ruined nations left in the wake of the battles that take place where after the evil forces of chaos and the noble forces of order fuck off and the peasants are left to starve.
Some he gives his blood, the others just become savages who catch his madness and see him as the god emperor and his vampires as noble knights not trogloditic monsters.
He then leaves and the stronger ones behind form a flesh eaters court and in time a royal family and infect the serfs with a weaker strain. They aren't dead but a basically mutants infected with death magic and madness.
Theres stories of things like slaaneshi cultists attacking a court and by the time they reach the king drop to their knees to weep as they caught the contagion thats stronger than chaos brainwashing and bow to their new king.
The thing is its hinting that this isn't actually Ushoran and never was, someone else took his name and survived the end times and the madness is a hint among others that its probably the Green Knight Gilles de Breton who was infected with the soul blight of vampirism during his fight with Mallobaude and he went mad, being the demi god he was now with insanity and the power of a vampire Nagash chained him up because he is also a force of order in his own fucked up way and an insane strigoi green knight was a competitor for dominance he didn't want to deal with.
Now "ushoran" roams the land "on a great quest for a prize" and has not been seen in centuries. But he is always attracted to the fallen kingdoms that intended or not imitate brettonia. Theres an example of horse riding knights in the realm of metal or fire that got caught in a massive magical snow storm they were not trained for, they ate their horses, their boots and then their serfs and as they turned on each other Ushoran found them and they became the 'Crypt Haunter Courtiers which are counted as 'knights above knights'.
Its pretty interesting but also one of those things that seem absurdely OP since they aren't undead but insane humans with impossible regeneration for the most part outside the royal families.
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No.421433
>>421416
>It’s not just a meme anymore.
It’s a part of the lore meant to allude to the squatted factions, but not actually resolve what happened to them. It’s the same as one of the new Black Library books revealing that Settra is now a Stormcast leading his own Stormhost with a grudge against Nagash. In fact, the Sigmarines seem to be a favorite dumping ground for old characters at least in the fluff. Karl Franz, Gelt, Settra, just say they’re stormcast now and leave it at that.
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No.421436
>>421433
>Settra is now a Stormcast
Oh wow, I though that was just someone joking because of the sigmarine models in the ads for the new Egyptian-ish terrain. I guess that means TKs are never coming back then.
Have to wonder how people even find out about this though, how many people read the books anyway, five or so?
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No.421438
I think the Bretonnians have had a really bad time tbh.
Originally I remember them as the Agincourt-era chivalric knights with heavy king arthur influence. then, they got semi-reinvented as these crazy warmongering retards who oppressed muh inbred peasants. now they're mindless beast vampires.
I can't help but think that someone resents the concept of noble knights in WHFB. You could say that they were too noblebright, but fantasy was never really as grimdark as 40k.
>>421433
>Settra is now a Stormcast leading his own Stormhost with a grudge against Nagash
wut
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No.421439
>>421383
>>421414
This is a universe of untold numbers of bio engineered soldiers and mutants. Notice one has a lack of a left arm and the other, missing a right eye. They wear facemasks and fullbody suits with a large cloak covering them. Likely hideous mutations underneath all of that. Doubt they are psykers, due to the tech on the back of their necks.
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No.421464
>>421438
> “In the Novel Hamilcar: Champion of the Gods there is a mention of a Lord Celestant Setrus of the Imperishables warrior chamber. It is said he has a special loathing for Nagash.”
From 1d4chan, a short visit to the GW webstore confirms that the book named does exist.
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No.421480
>>421414
The creator wrote a bit about these guys on Paymetons.
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No.421487
>>421480
Makes sense. Kind of reminds me of Crusaders. Old ass traditions with semi-unique tech.
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No.421499
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>>421438
The video game at least gave them the incarnation they deserved.
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No.421740
New Apocalypse has movement trays, d12's and "blast markers."
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No.421754
>>421740
>Blast markers
Maybe they realized that getting rid of templates was a bad idea.
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No.421756
>>421740
>age of sigmar gets free movement
>40k gets trays
DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER.
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No.421807
>>421754
>take it out
>put it back in
>take it out
>put it back in
JewDubs surely do follow the "fuck the customer" method.
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No.421959
Wow, we finally got a Atelier and 40k crossover, and it has the thiccest thighs in any Atelier yet.
I'm already calling the plot; at the end of the game when your Atelier is the best in the world due to unearthing a lot of ancient technology, an Explorator Ark from Mars lands and Reisalin becomes inducted as a leading Magi in the founding of the new Forge World.
In the final cutscene we see Reisalin awakening from a cryo-pod, her juicy thighs gently bouncing when her feet hit the floor, and a menial tells her that the forgeworld needs her ancient al-khemial arts once more, as the camera pans out through the layers of rockcrete to show the endless hordes of Orks besieging the hive.
>>421807
Well I guess this hobby is officially gay then. In-and-out action that can't ever result in a child, repeated out of blind addiction and only resulting in hemorrhaging money. Does that mean we can appropriate the pride shit?
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No.421970
>>421959
What crossover are you talking about anon?
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No.421974
>>421970
Re-read the title.
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No.422003
>>421754
Actually, I think its more like Epic 40k rather than putting templates back in. Shit, its practically 28mm Epic. Blast Markers, 5-man "movement trays," (bases) and smaller statlines.
>>421959
Even if that dosen't happen; someones gonna mod it to. it must be done
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No.422755
Scub marine tank rules and points.
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No.422857
>Grot army with some boyz and a trukk to fill out points
>Grot Megatank, 5 grot tanks, 3 killa kans, 2 big meks, 85 grots,11 boyz, 1 trukk
>Up against chaos army of Sorceror, 3 contemptors, and 3 discordants
>Managed to put a few wounds on 2 disconcordants
>Wipes out my army in one fucking shooting phase
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No.422888
>>422857
How the fuck is that even possible? Morale damage? Shenanigans? It must be shenanigans, there's no way he could have done that many wounds in one turn.
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No.422892
>>422888
Mortal wounds man. Some insane shit.
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No.422897
>>422892
How on earth do you do enough mortal wounds to chew through 85 grots, 3 killa kans, and 5 grot tanks in a single turn?
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No.422970
>GW had a record year in 2018, was in the top ten profit wise of British companies.
>Had enough left over to give all of their employees bonuses.
>Decide to enter the third quarter of 2019 by enacting a price hike on the Burger markets
>”Dark Eldar Scourges for $25? Khorne Berzerkers for $35? This cannot stand!” Cries GW. “Well bring the price up to snuff with the newer releases while not actually updating the models” they cry.
I honestly pray this is the straw that breaks the camels back, $35 for shitty old plastic cadians, mind you $35 is how much you used to pay for Scions, which will now be $40 for a pack of five. The really insulting ones are the Khorne Berzerkers, which are now $40 for ten outdated sculpts. Curiously, none of the Primaris shit is getting a price increase. Seriously, fuck GW.
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No.423054
>>422970
They really price hiked shit again?
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No.423143
>>423054
Announced it a few days ago. On a slightly related note, I just looked up how much Defilers cost after not buying one for almost a decade, and promptly lost my shit. Non-super vehicles should never cost more than $100. Hell, they should never be more than $70.
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No.423342
>>423054
>>422970
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oUgWoKEoyYZuMmYmsH9W_SKNvt7SisKp8SoPstlOs-w/edit#gid=0
Supposedlly this is the list of changes. Columb E is the new price. FW is also dropping a bunch of things. So far, they're trying to over-shadow these changes by offering up images of their new plastic sisters. If you still play any of the games, just go with recasts
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No.424298
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No.424473
>>423342
Update on the plastic sisters.
THEY FUCKED UP THE REPENTIA.
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No.424979
Hi all! Trisdekanon again, with a new project that I'd put aside for like a year and finally got around to finishing. I am proud to present Militarum Air-Mobile Chirurgical Hospices, or M.A.C.H., an Only War supplement about playing trauma surgeons behind the lines.
It features five new Specialties, and a detailed random table-based Chirurgery system that allows you to diagnose and treat anything from a sprained toe to a goddamn live bolter round embedded in someone's brain. Dead serious, this thing is fully 35% random tables. It's good shit.
Get it here:
https://mega.nz/#!7yAQjYxC!ddI48R7uFi4nQQo0JHJH9mYZsEJpbVCbSHjJ-buOSoM
or here:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3qo6dljm454g9h1/M.A.C.H_0.1.pdf/file
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No.425572
I'm THIS close of making a Battle Mech/Mobile Suit joke here
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No.425773
The Youtube channel Astartes, which made the Astartes CGI shorts, have been hacked since some time, and Youtube havent done anything during all that time, at all.
AND NOW IT HAVE BEEN DELETED. ISNT YOUTUBE GREAT, ANONS?
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No.425893
>>422755
Meh. "Macro" incinerator? It doesn't require a titan or even superheavy tank hull (like Volcano cannon), it doesn't deserve "macro".
>>422897
+bad luck on exploding vehicles, maybe?
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