/sw/ - Star Wars

I think we all knew articles like this were going to be written. I doubt an 'insider' said this exact quote. I think a 'pr representative' said 'we'll pay you to say it'll please last jedi detractors.'

They will never officially say anything like this. Officially JJ made no changes to the script because of fan reaction to TLJ. Remind normalfags of this. All the outreach to fans will be through 'press releaks'

>>29020

Where'd you find this?

The movie isn't done shooting, it's nothing but pure damage control.

>>29020

It's in a similar thread over on /tv/.

>>29017

Impress at being even worse?

>>29017

I sense much fear in them.

>>29017

The day disney wars impresses me, is the day I eat my shoe. One of these things is more likely than the other.

>>29017

Its worse than that.

http://archive.vn/9yzN9

They're going to have Carrie appear throughout the movie…

We all knew this was going to be their marketing strategy. Fall back on J. J's mystery box and nostalgia gimmicks. Rian Johnson is ironically enough the best thing to happen to Disney Star Wars for actual Star Wars fans. He massively sabotaged the Mouse's plans, whether intentionally or not.

>>29037

That's not surprising either. They'll probably have a CGI Leia fuck Lando.

>>29017

I find that hard to believe. TLJ was pretty impressive on its own; I don't think 9 could ever be as impressive, no matter how bad it manages to be.

>>29051

The bottom left should be "Finn cucks Kylo" probably.

>>29052

That would have happened, but Rian clearly sabotaged that with Rose Tico. J. J. wont be able to ignore that plot.

>>29054

Speaking of Rose, you should include a space for her. Maybe swap it out with one of the lower force ghost ones. Are we expecting them to bring up DJ or orange Yoda again?

>>29017

>Episode IX Will Impress The Last Jedi Haters

But I thought they didn't want those ebil muhsogynists' money. Oh but wait again, weren't the "haters" Russian bots? I'm confused.

>>29017

We already had a thread for discussing disney shit and TLJ >>23181

What I'm more curious about is this shit regarding a "Jedi Eater". Wtf is a jedi eater and wtf does a jar of beans have to do with this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/adlgc7/gfs_brother_worked_first_unit_on_episode_xi/

It sounds stupid.

>>29054

Eh. Rose is going to wander off because chinks hated her. JJ wanted Finn and Rey, he'll go back to it.

>>29059

>Wtf is a jedi eater

Sounds like something they thought would "sound cool" more then anything.

>>29058

It's gonna be so great that even if you are a paid movie shill of a foreign government you'll have to accept its greatness and rethink your arrangements with Putin.

>>29061

>'oh no, it's the Jedi eater!'

>Queue Rancor with stupid fucking flippers or something but ONE THOUSAND FEET TALLER SO THEREFORE AWESOMER

>Fumbles about in shitty CGI shot

>dispatched in seven seconds by Rey

>millions of them are unbought on shelves in Target and Walmart

>>29020

i don't know the source of this but it's now headcanon forever

>>29051

>Leia gets with Lando

Oh, God Damnit. Don't give them ideas.

>>29076

Patton Oswalt already did years ago.

>>29076

>>29079

Either this or they'll make Leia a lesbian.

>>29080

Rian kinda did with Holdo

>>29081

yeah that's what I was thinking of….. they might actually shut Lando down mid flirt and make a statement about toxic masculinity…..

>>29082

I think Lando should put his hand on C-3PO's leg as a door shuts.

>>29082

More of their "pets" will be angered. It's hilarious how much of our work they will do for us.

>>29085

I'm looking forward to the salt pile after its release.

>>29059

>>29061

>>29071

Bets on it being an OC Donut Steel Abeloth?

>>29020

>there will never be an episode of TNG where Data converses with a hologram of George Lucas to learn about archetypal storytelling so he can further his understanding of humanity.

The jedi eater is probably gonna be a Darth Nihilus knockoff since Kylo Ren is a Revan knockoff. Either that or its an Abeloth knock off.

>>29082

>>29084

They're going to have a scene with Lando and L337, calling it now.

>>29119

>A holocaust planet

LET'S TAKE BETS ON THE NAME, /sw/

>Holocaustia

>Mar-Shoah

>Siks-Milli

>Witzschau

>>29134

L337 is gonna be the Millennium Falcon… Lando is gonna come up to its control center and start flirting with it despite never doing such shit in the films or any old media.

>>29135

Gorilion 6

>>29135

>Germania

>Berlinia

>Hitleria

>[something German normalfags would grasp]

>>29139

Yup. Here's hoping elderly black Lando had/has enough self-respect to refuse. In any case if they released a cast list yet look for the obnoxious subhuman that voiced L337 on the list.

>They kept a rancor and a minoc in a cage. Every day they would put a Toydarian inside the cage. The rancor would eat his flesh and the minoc would eat his bones.

>>29120

Good idea. He's probably right.

>29017

P. Leia comes back to slay dem haters, george lucas will clap in shame.

>>29159

Probably. JJ likes to steal ideas and pretend they're original to him, and worst is idiots actually praise him for it.

>>29168

Sounds an awful lot like a certain cowboy hat wearing animal rapist.

>>29206

Not one of the core cast, and so considered unimportant by Disney, if they even remembered he existed.

>>29208

Nah, it was actually because if they included Lando in the first couple movies then people would remember that black people were always in Star Wars and there was nothing special or unique about Finn being a nigger.

>>29216

This.

Holy Christ was Carrie Fisher homely at the end. Just had to add that.

>>29221

>Lobot is my Brobot

In light of Solo, Lobot is retroactively tainted in my imagination now.

>>29221

Are there any black chicks in the films? I think IX announced one.

>>29225

>minor side character who dindu nuffin during the movie

>>29227

Now that I think about it, no. Which is strange because George is an oil driller. Even stranger, the EU doesn't have much in that regards either. There was the founder of the Revanites on Kaas, but that's all I can think of at the moment. Whole bunch of space asians, though.

>>29230

>minor side character who dindu nuffin during the movie

He has more screen time than Mace Windu.

>>29232

Did he actually fuck her?

>>29221

there were several niggers in empire and jedi, as well as a fuckload more in the prequel trilogy. basically, george divided the racial percentages of the cast based on the locations in the films. think of it as like america: whites are everywhere but minorities tend to only be in urban areas, outside of that they're spread very thin. now the shekel trilogy wants you to think minorities are everywhere in the galaxy, just like they do in real life when passing laws that don't accurately reflect the urban/rural lifestyles of the country.

>>29239

There was a rumor that his current wife was Oola but that is wrong.

>>29249

Bespin seemed to have a large percentage of blacks and they even had their own planet. Black people seemed to be a minority on Coruscant though. There was also one place in the comic where they were common but an audionovel mentioned that they growl there, like cats.

>>29255

>they growl there, like cats.

again, the real life comparisons are spot-on

>>29358

he was brought back due to fan interest, they had no plans to re-use the character as they wanted finn to be the new token

>>29255

Haruun Kal. Pretty much Planet Congo.

>>29369

>due to fan interest

Lol, no. He was brought back so they could do the opposite of what they did with Luke and Han with him. Lando wont die, he wont be subverted, and he'll probably fuck Leia. It's going to be the ultimate pozzfest.

>>29371

>won't be subverted

He's male, he's fairly alpha, and he accomplished things back in the first trilogy. Of course they'll do things to fuck him up unless Billy Dee refuses to be minstrel'd.

>>29371

>he wont be subverted

Hasn't he already been subverted? They turned him into a pansexual who fucks robots.

>>29369

To manufacture fan interest, more like. That and make fuck-me eyes at C-3PO's red arm.

>>29374

>red arm

i could be wrong but i recall c3po getting the red arm removed in the last cuck

>>29372

>He's male,

It would seem disney has no problems cucking male blacks in favor of feminism, so its a possibility that they will ruin his character further then again hollywood loves race-mixing and degeneracy, 50:50 chance for either possibility however keep in mind whatever they pull L337 will make an appearance.

>>29409

Weren't they looking for an older female actress to play some character & some people assumed it was mara jade? So you might be right.

>>29379

That's why I just said the arm and not 3po himself.

>>29409

Do talented artists even work in the industry anymore? It's kind of shocking how low grade genre fiction used to have these beautiful illustrations, and now we can't get anything that doesn't look amatuer.

>>29373

Not even a cute robot, either. If it was one of those waitresses from AotC nobody would blame him.

>>29412

Why the FUCK does luke look like a cromagnon????

>>29432

Pretty sure that's traced, Might even just be a photo with some filters.

>>29446

That is ugly beyond belief.

It reminds me a lot of the shitty Patreon-reward player portraits in the newer Shadowrun RPGs. It's all out of place.

>>29446

Is that Mike from RLM?

>>29476

That was my first thought, too.

>>29476

Yes.

>>29422

>There are no talented artists in the industry because art schools don't teach people how to draw anymore

This. I’m taking a STEM degree but signed up for an art class because I like to draw occasionally and figured I’d learn how to actually do so well. Two classes in and we’re doing mark making on 40 some 6 inch by 6 inch pieces of paper and we’re not even allowed to do anything that is something. So we have to either do dumb abstract stuff or if we use pencils or ink you have to make it vague and “non-representive”. I talked to the undergrad teaching the course and said I think contemporary art is dumb and I only signed up to draw better so he said he’d try to fit one (1) assignment in that includes some realism, but realism was removed from the course requirements 6 years ago. Then we watched some video of a nigger doing a satire of the typical youtuber but he was explaining what art is and the instructor wanted to make it clear that, as the nog said, art is a thing that has no purpose, and art requires no talent. To think otherwise was “antiquated”. I have friends in a full art school and they are both really good artists, and I very briefly considered applying for the art college but figured I wasn’t nearly good enough and then reaffirmed to go into STEM (thank god). But they assured me you didn’t even need to be talanted or know how to draw to get into the art school. The whole thing is fucked, and that’s why everything is shitty cartoon style or vaguely anime, nowadays.

>>29620

There's a school of thought that artistic whites fucked up by going into STEM. I tend to believe it, and I regret not pursuing writing as a career. We were all told to do it safe and right, but politics doesn't matter in STEM, and culture has become a jewish wasteland because we all did the responsible thing.

I can't say you made the wrong choice - since it's the one I made, but I have regrets.

>>29621

I never thought of that before, but I think it’s quite safe to say the current climate of the art world wouldn’t even give my a chance. First off that’s implying I would ever get good enough but I doubt I could make enough money to live. I don’t even know if I want to continue in STEM after my degree though. I might just join the army, I wish conscription was still a thing.

>>29644

I meant to say art is anything that has no purpose, which has a much worse implication then just art is a thing that has no purpose. Am mobile posting please forgive autocorrects That’s what we were told in the class.

>This is absolutely depressing that a significant portion of people truly believe this. Art should be about cultivating beauty and expanding people's minds.

Well it’s not anywhere near a majority of people, it’s only artsy people. That is one of my biggest issues with modern art: all eras of art had symbolism and meaning which the majority of the population didn’t understand. But paintings and sculptures were still made with beauty so even the lowliest peasant could look at a renaissance painting and remark on the beauty and pick out the basic theme. Those interested in art, which were and still are largely upper class liberals (modern liberalism is not at all similar to liberalism 100 years ago), could see and discuss the hidden motifs and more obscure symbolism. Now beauty has been removed so the average person has no connection to the art anymore. Modern art is basically pure symbolism, but without any actual symbols, which is another issue. No longer can anyone identify the meaning behind art because splashing paint on a canvas haphazardly and calling it a day doesn’t give any question to pick up on. It’s a meaningless presentation where each individual has to project their own meaning onto it, which sounds great but in reality it is only those who have studied the artist or is aware of the context surrounding the creation who can guess what the artist meant. But that’s even antiquated thinking because modern art is supposed to only have the meaning each individual prescribes to it. Someone was trying to explain to me that each art piece is only completed once the person viewing it finds a meaning in the art. This is all incredibly pretentious and is why defenders of modern art will claim “you just don’t understand it”. Which is true and the issue, but what they fail to realize is that they are not understanding the work as the creator does, they are merely projecting that they want onto that sculpture of old umbrellas and steel rods welded together at random. Which is why modern art is so popular with the highly emotional liberals and feminists, because every single piece is only completed by themselves and only means what they want it to mean, disconnecting the vast majority of the population from the art world where artists just try to be as meta as possible and nothing means anything.

I ramble a lot and require some more effort to make that into a more coherent, structured argument, but I think all the points are floating in that paragraph somewhere so it’s probably good enough. Basically Hitler said it best: “‘Works of art’ which cannot be understood in themselves but, for the justification of their existence, need those bombastic instructions for their use, finally reaching that intimidated soul, who is patiently willing to accept such stupid or impertinent nonsense—these works of art from now on will no longer find their way to the German people.” Or basically anything from his speech on the opening of the great German art exhibition.

>>29663

Army is a shitshow, m8. That's what I did, 8 years, and now I'm a NEET living at my parent's house. I have money saved up, but I'm more depressed than I've ever been in my life. Probably why I got interested in old Star Wars stuff again since it brings me back to my childhood before I hated everything. At the very least, don't do Infantry if you do enlist, it's nothing but Mexicans, Blacks, Filipinos, and a few borderline retarded Whites. Nothing made me hate this country more than serving it.

>>29664

I’m not a burger, and definitely don’t want to do it for 8 years. But I can sympathize a little bit, I started getting back into Star Wars because I’ve been pretty depressed the last few years and don’t really have any decent friends. Uni has just made it worse.

>>29664

>and now I'm a NEET living at my parent's house. I have money saved up, but I'm more depressed than I've ever been in my life. Probably why I got interested in old Star Wars stuff again since it brings me back to my childhood before I hated everything.

wtf are you me???

>>29671

I wouldn’t; I’m Canadian. I have German citizenship though so that’s where I’m planing on joining the army. Plus I haven’t had any good friends or made any decent relationships (including with family) here so I figure if I move to Yourup I can at least use that as an excuse as why I’m a loser with no social skills. At least for a few months. Plus the upcoming civil wars will be fun. But I won’t be able to bring my guns.

>>29685

>>well before any possible actual collapse

That's what I was talking about >>29686

>upcoming civil wars

>>29621

You don't need to be taught how to write, though. Chekhov was both a celebrated physician and a playwright - yet he never studied a course in "writing." I will never understand this American obsession with making a degree out of absolutely everything, even if the thing itself can't really be taught. All non STEM degrees - barring law - should be relegated to the status of a diploma or a certificate at best. This post modernist shite that seems to now pervade the social sciences and the humanities doesn't deserve the status of a full degree. If it truly is all "relative" now, if there truly is no standard of quality, then these subjects really shouldn't be seen as equal to the hard sciences academically because they're simply not (anymore).

Suffice to say, if you want to write, then write. You don't need a degree in literature because that degree isn't worth the paper it's printed on anyway.

>>29017

>>29711 (24hr checked)

A cult of undiagnosed narcissistic personality disorder has no sense of self-wrong. They done fucked up, all they need to do now is namedrop gamergate on national television.

>>29685

>killing star wars

>the best we can do

Bull-Fucking-Shit. You're acting about Star Wars the way every death-fat acts like about their wasteful existence:

<cries about how their life is shit, and they'd be better off dead

<constant pain on one end, nerves going numb on the other.

<when they realize they're actually gonna die, they freak out and want to live again despite death being inevitable.

If Star Wars gets buried into the Disney vault, you'd literally cry about it. However, there are literally millions (if not billions) of people who love Star Wars, if Star Wars would ever get thrown into the Disney vault forever, they will know. Even if Disney tries to hush it up and keep everything quiet, leaks will happen, the media will want to cash in on those outrage clicks, and 'there will be fucking protests.'

Also keep in mind that rich people can have hobbies too. What's not to say that some industrious autist will jump at the chance to save star wars for the sake of love?

>>29712

The "american obsession with degrees" doesn't really exist outside of narcissist circlejerks who flaunt it as a status symbol, or old people who earned a degree when it actually meant something. Nowadays people get jobs through connections and skills by learning it through trade schools or the internet.

>>29422 has it spot on. You wonder why businesses don't hire college graduates much anymore?

The Graduate

>I want to apply for this job.

<OK, do you have X amount of years working in this type of job?

>I got a college degree in this field.

<That doesn't mean anything.

>What?! But I need this job so I can actually get experience!

<lol, whatever, have a nice day.

The Business

>You want to apply for this job, what can you do for us?

<duhhhhh…. wut?

>can you do this task using this procedure?

<uhhh… like wut r u talkin bout?

>you graduated with a freaking degree for this, did they not teach you anything at college?!

<lol, not really.

The College

<Just do this thing, we have no idea what the fuck we're doing, we don't actually work with these industries, we just pay someone to tell shit to you.

Business, Finance or Law is the only reason someone should dare try for a college degree, even then it's becoming less and less necessary.

>>29664

>>29671

Thank you for your service anon. I've heard the stories on how things have gone to shit, I pray you can find the therapy you need.

>>29712

>why get a degree in writing

That isn't what I meant, I agree that's useless. But if you want to write, you need to write and exclude everything else. It has to be a focus. You can't pursue a STEM degree to fall back on or do it part-time at night. It needs to be a full-time job, because the other guys doing it are doing it full time. They want it more.

So when does Episode IX: We Wuz Rebels And Sheeeeeeeeeeeit reveal the thinly veiled Trump character?

>>29742

Snoke was already jammed into that role by suddenly wearing gold.

>>29717

>What's not to say that some industrious autist will jump at the chance to save star wars for the sake of love?

Imagine being this naive. Disney will never let this go. Even if they do nothing for 20 years and remake things then, they will not let SW go. The best case scenario is death, because it is already irreversibly spiritually dead.

>If Star Wars gets buried into the Disney vault, you'd literally cry about it.

I cried for it when Disney abandoned the EU, because that was when I new I would not see good official Star Wars content ever again.

>'there will be fucking protests.'

This is ridiculous.

>>29750

>Let me ask you this, does anyone care about any of the Sherlock Holmes stories not written by Arthur Conan Doyle? There are thousands of them because he's in the public domain, and they sell a little, but no one really cares because Sherlock Holmes belonged to Doyle.

People will read them, I don't see your point. Sherlock Holmes is like Robin Hood or a Greek Myth or a historical figure; people can do their interpretations of it and they do all the time. But people don't go into a Sherlock Holmes fan club and say "JUST WATCH MATLOCK FATSO".

>Star Wars ended, it had a beginning, a middle, and an end. Stop being a braindead consumer and learn to be satisfied.

I can't speak for anybody else, but I was quite happy with the old model of EU content, games, and the movies being complete. Why can't we go back to that, without all the kikery? I like the template universe and there's lots of room to explore and write things.

>>29750

I agree with your main point ("Star Wars can't be saved"), but everything else you said seems wrong.

>When Lucas, the original artists, decided he was done, Star Wars ended.

No, it kept going after RotS. There were good videogames and books still produced after. Of course, this will be blocked by Disney now because of their tight grip on copywrite, but that's because of Disney, not George; it could've continued okay under other owners.

>does anyone care about any of the Sherlock Holmes stories not written by Arthur Conan Doyle?

There was a fairly popular Sherlock Holmes TV show recently, and the Robert Downey Jr Movies (which are pretty good). I haven't played them but I hear some of the games are good as well.

>>29760

>>29753

Maybe I went a bit too far in a few places, but I stand by the fact that one of the biggest problems with people today is that they just want to endlessly consume the same shit over and over again. I view the EU as different than fanfiction because most of it isn't about Luke or Han, the best parts are totally new stories with no connections to the movies aside from taking place in the same universe.

>>29774

I can see your point about retreads, like to the level of TFA or TLJ. But I'm okay with stories about Luke or Han, or Vader, provided they aren't written by faggots and they have a good idea.

>>29774

In that case I agree. Wallowing in derivation kills artistic progress.

>>29745

Alright I admit, I was angry and harsh in that statement. I was angry because I've seen with my own two eyes how much everything can go right when you let go of bad attitudes against things, I've been working on that.

I hold hope because TLJ has shown that Disney can bleed. Even with their billions, star wars has been all-in-all a money sink for them.

Fun is profitable.

The abusers and narcissists in Disney are sucking the fun out of star wars on purpose to spite us, but in doing so, they ;pse money just to think they are superior to us in their own mind. In reality, they've stacked themselves high so they can look down on us, but they don't realize how thin their tower of lies and condescension is.

>Naive

Definition: Deficient in worldly wisdom or informed judgment.

This word is the favorite choice for those who are too hurt to want to hope again, cynics can be naive too. Naive is also the choice word of trilby-wearing atheists and conspiracyfags who parrot more than they actually research, but I don't think you're one of those types.

>The best case scenario is death, because it is already irreversibly spiritually dead.

It's only spiritually dead in your mind. You know that if you just wallow in this thought negative process of wanting destruction, that the universe will prove you wrong just to spite you.

Is being angry at everything actually useful for you? No, it's not useful. Let that anger go.

>>29774

What about things we remember and hold onto? Consumption culture exists because people don't put their heart and soul into what they do, and those who consume desperately search for the spark of energy that started it. We picked star wars because they DID put their heart and soul into it, that's why it hurts that the abusers at disney refuse to see this, and try to tear it down to satisfy their fee-fees.

I hold hope because fuck the man.

>>29801

>It's only spiritually dead in your mind.

No, just the official Star Wars. Obviously some of it lives on outside official venues (see the Separatist canon thread here as proof of that).

When I say "killing off SW is the best outcome," I'm only referring to the Disney-produced garbage, basically anything official.

Stuff like embed related is great, and I don't think it will die should Disney Wars stop.

I only called you naive for thinking official Star Wars ownership would leave Disney's hands. It simply doesn't happen; the only IP I recall Disney selling was Power Rangers back in 2010. Also now that they have theme park areas and luxury hotels designed around it, they have a sunk cost they can't just cut out anymore.

>>29803

>I only called you naive for thinking official Star Wars ownership would leave Disney's hands.

That would be bliss though…

>>29803

>Also now that they have theme park areas and luxury hotels designed around it, they have a sunk cost they can't just cut out anymore.

There's been a lot of info circulating around regarding those parks and its sounding like a train wreck before its even been finished. Not to mention they're wasting over 2 billion making two versions of this park that are both exactly alike.

>>29805

>its sounding like a train wreck before its even been finished

Which is great; every failure is more reason for them to hit the brakes on their SW content. Though even if the rides suck I want to see that park and hotel just for the theming of it; even if it's just generic sci-fi hardly resembling SW, that would still be pretty cool

>morale concerns

>cynicism

A quote for you.

>"The cynic is one who never sees a good quality in a man, and never fails to see a bad one. He is the human owl, vigilant in darkness and blind to light, mousing for vermin, and never seeing noble game. The cynic puts all human actions into two classes: openly bad and secretly bad. All virtue and generosity and disinterestedness are merely the appearance of good; but selfish at the bottom. He holds that no man does a good thing except for profit. The effect of his conversation upon your feelings is to chill and sear them; to send you away sour and morose. His criticisms and hints fall indiscriminately upon every lovely thing, like frost upon flowers."

>~Henry Ward Beecher

>>29409

what is the name of the black chick?

>>29017

i have my doubts that episode 9 will impress me. Episode 7 introduced the shiettiest lore you can imagine

>>29720

>You can't pursue a STEM degree to fall back on or do it part-time at night

I posted an example of a famous playwright who did just that. It isn't about quantity; it's about quality. If a fucking physician of all people (medicine has the worst hours of all) can produce genre defining work, I am sure a STEM degree can't be that much of an impediment.

>>29742

They turned Snoke pink and blond, and put him in a gold bathrobe, for that very reason.

>>29717

>Business, Finance or Law

And Medicine. And STEM. You're not going to be able to practice medicine or work in a laboratory without a degree. Come on now.

>>29803

>this fanfilm

"Funny" how the fanfilm directors now feel the need to be "inclusive" and put both a woman and black woman as commanders in charge while some white men have secondary roles. Too bad because the production quality in this is very good.

>>29828

George Foreman won the Heavyweight championship at 45. That doesn't mean that you are going to as well. Secondly, this is not 1860. The percentage of the population that reads is smaller, and there are far more writers. Writers who are doing nothing else but write every single second of the day. The common factor all successful people have is drive, unless they have ungodly levels of talent or charisma. Luck is also involved, but you can't plan on getting struck by lightning.

>quality is more important that quantity

This is a false and dangerous distinction. Producing one novel over a long period is almost guaranteed to fail because is is likely that nobody is going to find it, and the odds are it won't be very good. It's somewhat like a lottery where each book is a ticket. The key to the discipline of writing is producing good work as fast as possible. And writing large amounts quickly makes you grow and improve as a writer. And ultimately, that comes down to a time investment.

You _can_ succeed as a writer with a full time job, but you are basically in for a very shitty life, because you aren't going to be watching tv or playing video games and writing a page or two every day and thinking you'll succeed. If you want to be a writer, you have to commit to it. The 'STEM degree to fall back on' argument works against this, because as you might have guessed, being a successful engineer involves an investment of time. Most engineers can't do a simple 40 hour work week. One of the two things has to win out.

>>29686

>I have German citizenship though so that’s where I’m planing on joining the army.

Deutschanon here. Don't! the Bundeswehr is a complete and utter shitshow and only a few political purges away from becoming the Red Army.

>>29838

I don't think Germany has really existed as a country since 1945. It appears to be a internationalist run area that hates the very people they are supposed to govern ie native German people…. Their army is probably spiked harder than the US one which is full of hostile foreigners (islamics, mexicans, chinese etc.) that hate the US and can't even speak English not to mention trannies, women, fags,openly communist officer corps,and obsolete weapons & gear that will get you killed in any war situation.

Off topic so polite sage.

>>29717

>The "american obsession with degrees" doesn't really exist outside of narcissist circlejerks who flaunt it as a status symbol, or old people who earned a degree when it actually meant something. Nowadays people get jobs through connections and skills by learning it through trade schools or the internet.

Aside from the fact that skills learned on the internet are by no means the same as skills learned in a rigorous institutional setting no way would I let myself be treated by someone who self-taught medicine from the internet, and I have seen countless cases of people who think they understand my field from the internet, but in reality have deep-rooted and fundamental misunderstandings of both the material they learned (because they had nobody to catch it and correct them) and the present state of the art (since their learning is all secondhand, rather than interacting with those actually working in the field), how do you think connections get made?

University is an excellent place to network, because a) professors are actually involved in their field, with teaching only being part of their responsibilities, and b) they've seen tons of students go through and either also go into the field, or move on to other fields where the skills they learned from the degree program were applicable. A prof can at least point you in the right direction, and often introduce you to useful contacts. That's the whole reason universities have departmental meet-and-greets for the students to mingle with faculty. One conversation with a prof who noticed your diligence in class can put you in touch with another prof who can set you up a meeting with a former student who's now a senior analyst at a national bank, and just like that you have an "in".

>>29836

Yeah, well, maybe. But, personally, that leaves me at an impasse. I love to write myself, but I haven't manged to get anything published yet. What does someone in my situation do? Do I continue studying for a career in the sciences, or should I throw everything into my writing at this point? I have been told by a number of professionals that I have the potential to go far, and I did always have a major aptitude for English lit to boot, but it seems like an obscene risk to take.

>>29899

>Do I continue studying for a career in the sciences

Do this one. I have a relative who was also in touch with a lot of professionals and had national-level talent at taxidermy. Thing is, taxidermy as a field pays like shit unless you're well established and very talented, so instead he's devoting all his free time outside his bioscience studies to it to be competitive until he reaches that established point.

>it seems like an obscene risk to take.

It is, and it's unnecessary for success as long as you're good at it. You do need to work on getting in touch with as many contacts as you can get, though, and it sounds like you've already started on that.

>>29900

>devoting all his free

I should clarify; he still plays a good chunk of videogames and stuff like that, but has a block of several hours every day working on it.

>>29901

I agree with most of this, but

>George R.R. Martin

yes

>Timothy Zahn

he's written alot of filler, but the Thrawn Trilogy is a worthy contribution to Star Wars.

>Ursula K. Le Guin

disagree, she was actually talented. the Earthsea novels have had alot of influence on fantasy.

there are better examples you could've used, like Kevin J Anderson.

>>29901

Okay, I apologize. Let me give you the same shitty advice everyone else has given you: if you can DREAM it, you can DO it! You got this! Ten minutes every night will make you just like Tolkien! Writing is EASY.

>Tolkien was a part timer

He practically lived in his fantasy world. He spent hours of his life just thinking about it and mapping out the geography and languages. He conceived of the Fall of Gondolin in the trenches. To claim he was part time is to gravely misunderstand Tolkien.

>Just give up, goy

What I said was make a definitive choice and commit. Nothing Jewish about that. White men make hard choices. Jews promise easy successes.

>no bitter washed-up wannabe hack like you has any right to tell them they shouldn't

I'm saying put more time into writing and you are sperging about that. Ultimately, it doesn't matter what I tell them. The market for genre fiction is more brutal than anything I've said. If you mean you should write stories and not care about commercial success, well, that's perfectly noble. But you'll need to out food on the table so you won't be creating as many stories as you'd like.

>all the greats were part timers

Yeah, those 'full time'assholes like Asimov, Bradbury, Ellison, Lovecraft, Howard, Phillip K Dick, Lucas.

You seem to just really be angry that someone told your your epic novel or comic book series that you are writing 250 words on every night is unlikely to be a commercial success. All I can say is git gud. Write more.

>>29905

>Ellison

I knew it, I fucking knew it. Go ahead and point out the value of Harlan Ellison's work. Explain in a sentence, or maybe a few, what's good about his work. He personifies everything wrong with modern writers.

>>29905

>Lovecraft

>not a parttimer

I could point out other problems on your list, but Lovecraft was literally a NEET that spent more time writing letters to other writers than actually writing stories. If he was alive to day he'd be a shitposter.

>You seem to just really be angry that someone told your your epic novel or comic book series that you are writing 250 words on every night is unlikely to be a commercial success. All I can say is git gud. Write more.

I only write short stories, and I already have hundreds of them published across the web. And guess what, I got paid for most of them. They're also mostly shit. That's the thing, I can actually be self-aware. I'm not a good writer. I'm a bad writer, actually, but you don't have to be a good writer to get published, you just need to know how to do what the editors want you to do, and you just have to be persistent. Those two things, don't make you any good. Your problem is your entire framework for success. You can't be helped.

>>29905

>He conceived of the Fall of Gondolin in the trenches

*whoosh*

>>29900

>>29901

Thanks anons. I am going to keep working at both of my passions.

>>29914

>he was a bad writer because he had some left leaning tendencies

He was a man of his generation. They're all like that. Even George Lucas.

>>29939

>he was just a ittle left leaning

He's only famous because of his politics. He said himself that he's more proud of marching with Martin Luther King Jr. than he is of any of his writing. Name just one his stories which is actually worth reading, not something that is just amusing or clever, but something genuinely worth reading that made you a more interesting person having read it.

>>29664

You would've been better off with the Navy, Coast Guard or the Air Force. At least life in the Air Force is pretty luxurious. Since they have nicer barracks, better facilities and cleaner bases as well as fewer retarded minorites. The only problem is women.

>>29995

>Basic bitch shit any Boomer would say

You'd say that to if you were born at the time. It was trendy. It seemed reasonable. There was little social cost.

>>29914

I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream is probably the best horror short story there is.

>>29907

>I'm not a good writer. I'm a bad writer

Which is my point. At this point I don't understand what you're even pissed off about, except that I said writing was hard and to be good at it requires a time investment that is hard for someone part time to do. It seems you are mad at people who choose to be writers as a career. Nothing in the world comes in halves. It is like being mad a guy who trains all the time at baseball is better than a part-timer.

>publishing short stories online

>do what editors want

I'm getting the impression you don't understand how online publishing works. Why didn't you self publish on Amazon like 99% of the online writing community?

>>29906

Ellison was capable of thinking up imaginative fiction. He also had a definitive morality which made his stories both strange and interesting.

But we're far off-topic now. I'll agree to disagree on the subject of part time writing and how low effort can lead to being an awesome writer.

>>29250

>but that is wrong

Nice try George.

>>30064

George would probably tell everybody. Hiw wife is some executive he met at a charity.

>>29371

>and he'll probably fuck Leia

I hope Billy Dee Williams has more integrity than submitting to that. You have to respect Fisher's memory a bit.

>>29409

More like Bleached

Still, abandoning Mara is bullshit.

>>29826

Oog Ab'Ooguh, heiress to the Nahgeerianese Trash Conglomerate

>>29832

I have difficulty watching most modern Star Wars fan films because of the over-represented diversity hires and soyboy numales

>>29854

This is correct. Germany isn't it's own nation, rather it's an occupied territory that exists as a staging ground for the globalization and brownification of Europe

>>29999

>>30000

Nice digits

>>29409

boy am i glad i hopped off the comics back at the fourth issue, before it really went downhill.

>>30524

The newer issues are even worse if you can even conceive such horrors. I'd storytime it but I feel like I'd suffer brain damage if I go through that again.

>>29832

Holy fuck, the diversity is almost as bad as disney, if this were a disney short film the white guy would be replaced with a jewish mexican. Why is this a thing? Are fan film directors all cuck-faggot marxists or something?

>>30574

>Are fan film directors all cuck-faggot marxists

Generally speaking, the people with the free time on their hands to make a fanfilm, without instead making their own film, are going to be faggots.

>>30590

>hurr, the prequels r bad guize

Back to reddit, boomer bitch.

>>30593

>OT and Prequels

>and

So you hate the OT, the PT, and imply you don't care for the ST either. I think you're in the wrong place.

>>30590

No one really defends kid Anakin. Starting the character that young was a mistake.

>>30000

Huttese is base 8. In Huttese you got post 72460 which is not dubs and especially not double dubs.

>>30590

There are no child fans of the sequel trilogy.

>>30603

You'll probably find kids who "like Star Wars", but they're in it for the space ships and the lasers, and probably like BB-8 most out of the new cast.

>>30603

Exactly. What is there to draw them in? The only people Maus Wars is attracting are the twilight lovers, hipsters and disney knob slobberers.

>>30590

>wait 20 years

not gonna happend. They are boring and nobody gives a shit about them (look at the toy sales of those charactes)

>>29446

All official artwork is traced now. It's much easier to find a stock photo and edit it then it is to draw something fresh. The cost of drawing a full figure well is a lot higher than sketching over someone and then adding the universe elemtns/clothing to it, so that's what they do now.

And if it's fantasy they grab free to use or cheap unity assets, stick it in the poses they want and then render it with suitable lighting. Take a capture and put it into photoshop and you have your "trace" element. This is the entire industry top to bottom because it works, it's cheap and it requires less training. At most people get to customise things, like how the rivets fit on a robot or the rocks on a mountain to hide it's exact stock art.

>>29999

Jon Tron did nothing wrong

>>30590

and they failed miserably because disney is currently stuck with a miserable, ugly, unreliable, bunch of 1 dimensional, california cat lady “political statement” characters, a go nowhere story, terrible writers plagiarists (across all their media with fart/furry fetish), hack directors(nepotism hires) and worse game companies that only seem to want to further alienate fans against star wars. It will therefore never be popular and most likely eventually be forgotten, probably replaced by the influx of new terrible star wars films and the inevitable reboot of the franchise.

The PT despite criticisms of the films had characters that were well received Darth Maul, Clone Troopers, Grievous, etc. all sold well and people were generally interested in seeing how the events of the OT came to be. In addition Lucas arts further expanded on their story with good quality additional content (games, books, etc.).

>>30666

I still think a major downfall of the prequels is that Anakin and Padme just aren't great as characters. There's still more than enough to like in the prequels though. Young Obi-wan was great.

>>30668

Sure Padme was completely unnecessary until the end and her love affair and death was not used as effectively as it could have been.

Anakin failed due to bad casting, as he was not the right guy to depict young Vader and George made a few bad calls such as wasting the first film with a little kid Anakin instead of using it to develop adult Anakin but as you say prequels have much to like despite flaws which are made increasingly less relevant by the disgusting festering putrid slop disney spews out and expects the general populous to consume.

>>30668

The prequels are absolutely perfect if you refilm about ten minutes of AotC. TPM and RotS don't really have any issues, the only thing which could use a bit of work is some of the dialogue in AotC.

>>30669

I sometimes wonder if the awkwardness of Anakin came from the fact you had an American actor doing an impersonation of an older black American actor, doing an impersonation of a British accent.

>>30671

>the only thing which could use a bit of work is some of the dialogue in AotC

dialogue in aotc is fine, just some delivery needed reshoots.

>>30675

hayden is canadian

>>30671

I don't agree I think many things could have been edited or shot differently. As atated the TPM should not have had a little kid Anakin simply because it meant less time to develop Anakin and his fall to the dark side which as a consequence is rushed in the next 2 films.

>>30685

>hayden is canadian

That's fine I just don't think he was a good choice as Anakin he could have been another character or jedi just not Anakin.

>>30686

it doesn't matter who played him, JEJ's voice was just the helmet. nobody did any impressions.

>>30688

Could have had a big warrior type guy with a deep voice play Anakin…. "the helmet voice" would be less jarring that way.

>>30686

Anakin's fall to the dark side was well-designed in theory, but it was rushed. like one minute you're an angsty teen, then suddenly you're Vader. in a larger sense, I think the rise of the Empire was rushed too. there's too large a jump from III to IV, and the Empire seems too well established and consolidated to be the recent work of an usurper. alot of this could be resolved by extending the Imperial era further back. the prequels should've started with the rise of the Empire, not the Clone Wars (a story which could be told elsewhere).

>>30685

it wouldn't be that hard to fix the dialogue. you could save the infamous sand line by having Padme lol at him.

>>30692

as an aside, the voice acting for Darth Vader was well-done. baritone, well enunciated, with a mechanical edge. it's not risible or unclear, eg Dark Knight Rises.

>>30697

>save the infamous sand line

literally nothing wrong with it. it's anakin attempting to make conversation with padme (despite not knowing the conventional methods of wooing a girl) and at the same time his own emotions bring back shitty memories.

>>30692

this is stupid

>>30698

I agree, but the movie doesn't acknowledge how silly it comes across. if Padme shared the audience's reaction, it would've gone down much more smoothly.

>>30688

I do wonder if part of Hayden's performance was influenced by trying to match the intonations of James Earl Jones though.

>>30697

I've been toying with the idea that the prequels could have gotten away with not showing the transitional moment where Anakin becomes Vader at all. Think MGS3. It give you all the info you needed on why Big Boss eventually betrays his country and becomes the character he becomes. You don't actually need to see him building his villain lair and committing war crimes. That's just fluff, really. The standing at the grave moment tells you everything.

This would also preserve the ESB twist for those who don't know, and deal with issues like why Obi-Wan and Vader seem to have aged a little more than 17 years in the space of 17 years. Luke and Leia kind of have to be conceived before Vader becomes the robot monster, but that can all happen off screen.

>you can't be part of our clique if you don't like jar jar binks

>'hummm… ok, I guess'

And you wonder why no one takes you seriously.

They're no evil geniuses going after the soy bucks. It's you who are a goddamn imbecile for smearing yourself in shit whenever there's a job interview coming up.

>>30698

The sand line is fine as far as actual dialogue goes, but what it lacks is good visuals to back it up. Anakin and Padme are just standing and talking against a generic background when they deliver their dialogue, and that wastes the visual element of film, which a good director should take advantage of. Imagine if the scene went like this instead:

Anakin and Padme are on the beach. Padme is sitting in the sun, on a towel right on the sand, maybe even idly playing with the sand or water with a hand as she talks to Anakin. Anakin, by contrast, is sitting on a beach chair (higher up away from the sand), in the shade under an umbrella. It's a little thing, but those visuals both show the distance between the two. Anakin is someplace else mentally a darker place, oooh, and it's clear the sand evokes very different thoughts in him. It's not a bad line per se, but it doesn't take advantage of the film medium at all.

>>30701

Also this.

>>30707

Jar Jar being the worst thing ever is a meme. He's slightly annoying at worst.

>>30711

Compare Jar Jar to any annoying high-pitched anime character and he's great.

>>30712

Compare Jar Jar to any of the new characters and he's far less annoying.

>>30711

jar jar is pretty bad (needed to be scaled back a bit a at least) but definitely not the worst thing ever I find the disney wars nu-characters far more annoying than jar jar…… especially the marysue character.

>>30708

Yeah, I always invisioned them as "knights" and militaristic perhaps they should have borrowed a bit more from samurai and European history (knights).

>>30708

>>30718

word. they should be more Templar than Jesuit.

>>30721

It was an odd decision by Lucas to have the Jedi robe be the desert clothes that Obi Wan wore. I guess because Obi wan was the first Jedi it kind of resonated with people.

>>30723

right. but it doesn't make alot of sense in-universe, given that Obi-Wan wants to remain hidden and incognito. I could see them wearing robes, but the official attire should be distinct.

>>30712

>>30711

>>30717

There is nothing wrong with Jar jar when you realize it's a kids film. It's manchildren agry at the ewoks all over again. It's like the people crying over Jar jar didn't want their children's adventure moves to be children's adventure movies. Anakin in episode 1 and Jar jar are both aimed at the target audience and hit the mark. Child actors always suck, comic relief isn't funny if you're an adult watching it in a kids movie.

>>30726

Doesn't Yoda wear it too?

>>30728

And Vader's ghost at the end.

>>30730

I think Mr. Lucas just wanted him to look like Uncle Owen.

>>30728

>>30730

yes, you're right. I still think the proper Jedi robes should've been different, with a vague resemblance to Obi-Wan's.

>>30723

>>30726

>>30728

>>30730

>>30732

>>30734

i always thought ben's robes were local tatooine wear, with a jedi cloak over it. true, it doesn't explain yoda or ghost anakin, but i believe that was meant to be the idea. or maybe it just happened to be that the citizens of tatooine had a similar fashion sense to the jedi? that style of clothing is very good for multiple climates, it might be more common around the galaxy than we know, after all samurai and citizens both wore the same style clothing, the only thing that made samurai distinct were their swords or if they had armor.

>>30738

In the EU I think there was a connection between the two, that Jedi came from Tatooine (in part) or something like that.

I always figured that the actual before-the-Prequels Jedi “uniform” was based around that high-collared, double-breasted tunic worn by Yoda and later copied by Luke (I used to think Obi-Wan wore it too, but looking again it appears that he might actually be wearing some sort of mock-turtleneck).

>>30744

it's his skin for mortal kombat

>>30744

Isn't the 4th anakin picture the standard jedi "uniform"? They wear robes over them but they all wear that same tunic don't they?

>>30726

>it doesn't make sense since he wanted to hide

He's in a fucking desert shithole. Who would see him? Let alone recognize his robes?

>>30769

The moisture farmers dress exactly the same as he did. Obviously in the first movie he was just wearing local attire, but it became identified with being Jedi robes.

>>30726

>>30771

Maybe I'm misremembering, but even during TPM didn't Anakin say it was seeing the "laser swords" that gave them away as Jedi, without mentioning the robes, with the implication therefore being that the robes were not strongly identified with Jedi even before the purge?

In the end, the real reason is that everyone knows wizards and pseudo-monks are supposed to wear robes.

>>30779

>Maybe I'm misremembering, but even during TPM didn't Anakin say it was seeing the "laser swords" that gave them away as Jedi, without mentioning the robes, with the implication therefore being that the robes were not strongly identified with Jedi even before the purge?

They were on Tattooine. Jedi and moisture farmers dress the same, so in-universe that doesn't break anything established. Recall the protocol droid on the shit knew they were Jedi knights just by seeing them.

>>30782

>Recall the protocol droid on the shit knew they were Jedi knights just by seeing them.

The droid’s exact words are: “the ambassadors are Jedi Knights, I BELIEVE.”

>>30769

all force-users were at risk in the Imperial Era. aside from living on a backwater planet, he also went by Ben Kenobi to hide his identity.

>>30771

it just seems strange to me that Tattooine garb should be synonymous with Jedi robes. I'd expect an ancient, mystic, military order to have a conventional style, and I wouldn't expect that style to be shared by moisture farmers.

>>30779

>In the end, the real reason is that everyone knows wizards and pseudo-monks are supposed to wear robes.

pretty much this. it seems like one of those things that were not well thought-out.

>>30783

She surmised they were Jedi. I don't get how I believe matters.

>>30785

>it just seems strange to me that Tattooine garb should be synonymous with Jedi robes. I'd expect an ancient, mystic, military order to have a conventional style, and I wouldn't expect that style to be shared by moisture farmers.

Right. That's what the debate is. It's basically an accident of the films and a retcon.

Maybe we're approaching this all wrong, and Owen just bought one of Obi-Wan's old cloaks from the Tatooine charity shop.

>>30791

Do we know what Obi-Wan's job was on Tatooine? He might manufacture the robes for a living.

>>30787

>She surmised they were Jedi. I don't get how I believe matters.

It implies room for doubt.

>>30723

It was explained in some of those visual dictionaries or visual guides. Jedi used those robes and tunics, which were common in many places in the galaxy as a sign of humility and detachment. Anakin was considered different because he favored a black leather tunic. So those robes and tunics were simply clothing and inconspicuous ones.

>>30794

this is a good answer.

>>29686

> I’m planing on joining the army.

enjoy the cuckening

>>29901

>survival of the fittest mindset

more like survival of the cheapest

>>29901

Its almost like you're forgetting that tolkien was was a philologist, a specialist in historical texts.

So despite he didn't write stories all the time he did indeed practiced his writing

>>29906

>anon makes a an elaborated post

>the only thing he can take from it is muh ellison

brainlet tier