8f7c0f No.30945 [View All]
If the federation is such an enlightened utopia why did one of her colonies degrade into a sate where planet wide roaming rape gangs made the rules the moment the replicators started malfunctioning?
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e682aa No.31856
>>31808
>celeb
>This guy built a company that has singlehandedly restarted the space race and introduced capitalism to the Final Frontier
What are you so afraid of?
>>31832
>What do you think memes are?
Meaningless. Memes never created anything except stupid internet videos that stick around for a year or two at most, and then are immediately forgotten.
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9aedff No.31866
>>31856
>federal subsidy welfare queen
>capitalist
Pick one and only one.
>Memes never created anything except stupid internet videos
>he doesn't have know the original definition of meme
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e682aa No.32002
>>31866
>pretending as if that's the kind of meme anyone is talking about
Nice try. Now why don't you get the fuck back to /a/ where you belong?
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35a17c No.32009
>>32002
<pretending as if that's the kind of meme anyone is talking about
It's the kind of meme >>31832 was talking about, he quoted the definition almost verbatim. So yes, it is indeed the kind of meme anyone was talking about.
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cca529 No.32024
>>31856
Memes were great when they were the accidental byproduct of people posting and creating. Now people set out to create memes and theyre shit.
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e682aa No.32043
>>32009
It still doesn't work that way. Humanity didn't sit down together to devise democracy, electricity, or the internet. A person or a small group invented it. Sometimes it happened several times in multiple different places. But the point is 99.99999999% of people do nothing of note and have zero effect on the world writ large. Whether those number are retarded or not, "evil" or not, makes absolutely no difference because those few will still do what they do.
You would think, of all places, an imageboard is where people would realize that they are a meaningless, faceless cockroach.
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c24abc No.32044
>>31836
What is this even meant to be?
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9bfb91 No.32607
>>30948
>Because any civilised society is only able to maintain itself as long as the population gets its bread and circuses
how many civilized societies have you seen so far?
real life is better than star trek in every single way except starship design appearance-wise which is actually saying a lot. there should be exceptions however
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63fd27 No.32608
>>32607
What sort of ivory tower do you live in?
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f6c45a No.32612
>>32607
>real life is better than star trek in every single way except starship design appearance-wise which is actually saying a lot
Actual spacecraft have to actually work. Fictional space craft just have to look cool, especially in soft sci-fi where it's all about the rule of cool.
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e682aa No.32652
>>32612
>Actual spacecraft have to actually work
It's form before function because the technology has improved. Our spacecraft look the way they do because they need to be as light as possible and they need certain parts to function. Star Trek spaceships don't need those. They don't need spacecraft to be super-lightweight because they have spacedocks and transporters; they don't need to rotate because they have artificial gravity; they don't need thick radiation shields because they have deflector shields; they don't need solar panels because they have antimatter power; they don't need bulky radiators because I guess warp power produces no excess heat.
Basically, compare pic related to a modern sports car. Then imagine showing a picture of that sports car to a guy from the 1900's. He'll assume it's too heavy to move, think it must not have a real engine because you can't see it, wonder how the exhaust gets out, and assume it won't actually work. You're doing the same thing.
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f6c45a No.32654
>>32652
The difference is I'm not looking at pictures from the future. I'm looking at fiction. You're just handwaiving shit away with tech that is speculative at best, and some of which we now know to not even be possible.
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798497 No.32672
>>31248
post more Rhodesia kino
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8f2c9c No.32673
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f6c45a No.32679
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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c67958 No.32695
>>30945
>>30948
It doesn't matter, human or not. when shit hits the fan, the fan is hit by shiiiiiiit
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b6a2de No.32696
>>31481
>>Bunch of niggers go steal meat from lions armed with nothing more than pointy sticks
>>Meanwhile nearly all white men would never dare take on even a single lion without a high-powered rifle and a jeep
In this case I'm gonna hang out with the niggers
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0294c4 No.32702
>>32696
>I'm gonna hang out with the niggers
It's the grave you chose.
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38cf49 No.32706
>>32696
>>32702
If they are reliant on own means for survival rather than gibz they aren't niggers.
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9f3c71 No.32707
>>32706
>their behaviour is purely the result of (((socio-economic status)))
This is how I can tell you have no personal experience with them.
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598711 No.32722
>>32706
>stealing from lions
>not gibz
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b476d3 No.32727
Meaning why did her planet turn into Sweden?
Ironically, Sweden was an enlightened utopia 30 years ago too.
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3f65ac No.32729
>>30945
Maybe rape is an enlightened behavior.
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e682aa No.32739
>>32654
No, actually you're just wielding "it's fiction!" like a hammer at this point assuming that if you scream it loud enough it makes all your arguments valid. The entire history of human science is remarked by people being entirely sure about something, and then being proven completely fucking wrong. Why would you be such a complete narcissist as to assume that the generation YOU live in would be the exception, and that all of modern physics, THIS TIME FOR SURE, is correct?
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d2ba57 No.32746
So like, I just read that whole infographic about rape (actually, I just read this entire inane thread) and I think it's pretty amazing how little the person who made that infographic actually knows about female anatomy, tbh.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with a few things in that image but if a vagina is not aroused then rape hurts a woman. arousal makes the vagina wet and loose so that it can accommodate a cock, therefore women can be raped just as much as men can. Furthermore so can children of either gender.
the tone of this image is one of a psychopathic incel in my opinion and I'm a 38yo male who has fucked 10 women and raped none of them.
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05bcf4 No.32747
>>31387
The song you are thinking of is "Immortal Technique - Dance with the Devil"
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b02b34 No.32749
>>32739
No. You're a fucking retard that can't even remember what the topic is. I'll say it again.
>Actual spacecraft have to actually work. Fictional space craft just have to look cool, especially in soft sci-fi where it's all about the rule of cool.
It's fiction. It's soft sci-fi. Actual science if an afterthought. It doesn't matter what current spaceships actually look like, or what actual future spaceships will look like. All they need to do is be aesthetically pleasing. I could make a ship that looks like a cock. Not just a little bit, I mean exactly. I can explain it by saying that it's just a coincidence. The balls are just the most efficient arrangement for the fluidic antinutrino coils. The wrinkles on the ball sack are to minimize subspace field distortions from the Kreutzfeld-Jakob force dampener, and the bulbous head is to shield the bridge from polyonic bow waves generated during the activation of the jump drive. I almost forgot. The "flesh tone" is just the natural color of the high energy photon blocking paint.
See how that works? Maybe in 400 years the starships will look like giant veiny cocks, or maybe they won't, but don't act like the shit I just made up is some kind of legitimate science that we just haven't figured out yet.
TL;DR, I'll stop wielding it like a hammer when you stop claiming your glass figurines are invincible.
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bb047f No.32750
>>31019
More important, almost all of ST:TOS was either just crude rewrites / genre flips of basic stories or sermons intended to 'inspire' the viewer. None of that works unless the people in the future are still basically humans.
Showing a superior society that works for evolved supermen would clearly not be applicable to us flawed and weak humans, so not aspirational enough. Would be great Science Fiction, but bad propaganda. We can all see which argument won.
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bb047f No.32752
>>31021
It is also obvious that the period leading up to ST:TNG was a long stretch of peace because otherwise there is no way the Federation would have been stupid enough to build a Galaxy Class starship. They had to have had such a long period of low danger that they actually thought it was a sound idea to build a flagship with most of the space devoted to carrying around women and children, holodecks and other obviously non military and non scientific equipment.
Obviously their design rules changed again after Wolf 359.
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421a33 No.32756
>>31026
What about in Voyager where Tom Paris and B`ellana Torres got married. They didn't seem to be part of that cast. They had a baby.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0206259/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t3
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000536/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t4
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5c8447 No.32757
>>32746
>I'm a 38yo male who has fucked 10 women and raped none of them.
Normalniggers need to leave.
>>31021
>Does that still make sense in an economy with replicators where 'complex resources' and even entire manufactured, high tech, products can be summoned from thin air? We know that there are a few things that cannot be replicated, but the majority of resources/products can be.
Replicators are probably just part of the propaganda: they're actually just teleporters and Federation starships and facilities have huge stocks of components (basic ingredients for food like pre-cooked meat and sauces) they can combine on the fly while teleporting the result in. That's why plenty of people have 'only real cooked food' autism and why you rarely if ever see other factions using them. Also explains the massive amount of cargo space in Federation ship design. Picard, as a Captain, is one of the few allowed to know about this conspiracy which he gives away subconsciously by how he orders his tea: tea (baseline ingredient for all tea varieties), earl grey (flavouring), hot (short for hot water). I imagine some sort of basic tea-concentrate, earl grey flavouring and then a ton of hot water being pushed into it similar to how coffee machines tend to work. It'd be highly space efficient assuming you were picking up water as you go.
So if you ordered, say, a beef stir fry it'd just teleport in cooked beef, cooked vegetables and a rapid-heated sauce. Assume the ingredients are in some sort of super-deep freeze at all times. However as everyone is indoctrinated from a young age into the Federation's belief system they're entirely used to every meal of a certain type tasting almost identical and enjoy the smug self satisfaction that comes with looking down on ''backwards' food autists like Sisko's dad.
>>31023
>Not having enough land was kind of my point though. Unless they were happy to turn the entire surface of Earth into something out of Judge Dredds Mega City 1 they would either need to crack down on reproduction like some kind of Sci Fi China, or start a few thousand new terraforming projects that would be able to take a few hundred thousand citizens out of Earths cities in a decade or so.
Actually you'd be surprised how much spare room there is on earth even now. You could comfortably fit the entire world's current population in Europe with plenty to spare particularly if you had advanced building techniques for building upwards. This is only helped by having little-no need for roads and little concern over the distance between shops etc (very fast travel, no need for most people to travel to work etc).
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5c8447 No.32758
>>32757
>>31023
Do note though that I'm assuming you're instantaneously transporting food in, not dedicating much space to anything but living, education and entertainment etc. Things also get easier once you can used advanced technology to live in places we'd currently consider inhospitable and literal telelportation to remove things like waste. Assuming you by into the fact replicators exist and work it's also significantly easier. Power generation becomes the only real logistical issue.
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0081e9 No.32759
>>30945
The Federation is a Communist Empire.
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b5cb1f No.32760
>>30945
Watch DS9's Past Tense two-parter and you get even more of a lack of an answer. Apparently all that's wrong in 2024 is that everyone is just too shortsighted to come together and commit to instate a perfect governmental system that would magically treat everyone with fairness and respect. That's all there is to it. If you could just cure all mental issues in the population and make sure everyone has the autonomy to do whatever their heart desires, we would all naturally flourish in a way that's mutually beneficial to all. IIRC there's even a scene where the well-off corporate types befriending Dax talking about how bad Europe has become and that literal Trotskyites could be some sort of fix to the problem.
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8f7c0f No.32762
>>32746
how do you make it to the age of 38 and not know that a woman getting aroused during sex is totally involuntarily, and is probably way more of a mechanism to prevent her vagina from being injured during a brutal rape instead of something that signals consent and enjoyment? you do understand that women who have been brutally raped report the experience producing the most intense orgasms of their lives, yes?
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b2fd6a No.32766
>>30945
Because the entire fantasy depends on infinite free things.
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63dc25 No.32768
>>30948
> If you read up on modern sociological studies
Or you could read up on the replication crisis / why sociology is absolute bullshit
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b2c765 No.32770
>>30945
Because Star Trek is badly written Jewish horseshit.
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84ba8d No.32771
>>32762
So in reality Tasha Yar's colony planet infested with rape gangs was an advanced federation colony not a degenerated one, only Tasha and the Federation weren't on their level. They were on the cusp of evolving into pure energy beings via embracing the intense orgasms of brutal rape.
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f6c45a No.32772
>>32771
Once the orgasm is embraced it ceases to be rape, and the orgasms diminish in intensity.
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8f2c9c No.32773
>>32746
>I'm a 38yo male who has fucked 10 women and raped none of them.
>>32757
So how did Voyager's replicators work?
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3bbfd0 No.32774
>>32771
>>32772
Clearly they did not understand that rape is how they said hello!
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d2ba57 No.32780
"you do understand that women who have been brutally raped report the experience producing the most intense orgasms of their lives, yes?"
Source???
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d2ba57 No.32783
Also…I'm really curious when a dude has accepted a belief system in his head that justifies rape, does this guy not have a mother that he loves? Has he never been close to a women, does he not have any sisters or female cousins?
8Chan is certainly giving me a true insight into how sick the world truly is.
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472158 No.32786
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d2ba57 No.32791
and you are trying to force me to go back to reddit how, strong language? Nigga please.
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2febfc No.32797
>>32773
>So how did Voyager's replicators work?
They rationed them officially due to a lack of power but unofficially due to a lack of supplies.
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4868f7 No.32800
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ef806c No.32807
>>32791
>he admits he came from reddit
>speaking ebonics
It's time for you to leave.
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f8b7e1 No.32822
>>32807
Send them to the Vulcans first.
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