625911 No.25487 [Last50 Posts]
Looks like Picard is returning in a brand new Star Trek series. However, isn't he old as FUCK right now? He's 78 and could literally die any minute. I don't see this series going very far. Plus, with the latest introduction of the pozzed Odyssey series, it's safe to say that any new St series will be pozzed as well. After all Picard is just another Trump-hating celebrity who would agree to anything that involves subverting the science fiction we all love with some queer revisionism.
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52919f No.25489
it'll probably just be some Bones-tier cameo like in the first episode of TNG.
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bd0757 No.25490
>still CBS All Access
aren't they unable to use certain designs? How will that factor in?
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a83947 No.25492
Isn't he very old? How will this work?
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625911 No.25493
>>25492
What I think is going to happen is that he will be captain for no more than a single season. Meanwhile, he'll have a first officer who is black, female, lesbian, and trans, and the entire season will be spent developing the first officer's story arc in preparation for her to become the new ship captain after Picard's eventual exit from the series. They want to boil the frog slowly here because they know from experience what backlash they receive when they try to inject their SJW propaganda into the mainstream all at once.
Mark my words. This is exactly how it will play out.
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f6a9e7 No.25495
Shouldn't he be an Admiral by now?
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cfe78b No.25498
>>25495
I hope they ignore Nemesis and Riker's still a commander
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f3997b No.25499
I'm surprised that they brought Picard back instead of Janeway. That's not very woke.
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85705f No.25500
>>25495
It's supposedly 20 years after Nemesis, meaning he would probably be a diplomat instead.
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45644f No.25503
>>25495
>Admiral
And a lower ranked Admiral than Janeway.
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9a3349 No.25504
It'll have a decent chance of being marginally better than STD, but it doesn't sound promising. looks like they have many of the same people from STD involved.
>>25490
>licensing conspiracy theory
easier to deal with here because it'll be a decade or two past Nemesis and even though that time period was already shown on screen in "flash forward" type scenes in TNG, nobody really counts those as hard canon. Practically speaking, they've got a pass on being compared to any in prior Trek, but that's not their problem. They'll likely still film it using meme techniques (lens flare, shaky cam, dutch angles, etc.) and will differ it significant in visual tone from TNG for those license and ownership reasons. It's like those older rock bands that re-record their own songs so they can own the rights to them. Anything is possible these days because the people who make this shit are insane CIA propaganda contractors, but i don't see it trying to snatch that look from The Orville because I don't think they could do it without it coming across as parody. What inoculates The Orville is that the people making it really love Star Trek and it comes through. The opposite is true of STD.
You wont see anything from TNG on this show, except for very limited objects and images like the Star Trek 6 crew photo that showed up in one of the JJ nuTrek films. That was probably licensed separately and very expensive for them to do considering it's just a prop. The same limitations probably applies here to. It'll look and feel a very expensive fan film by one of those cosplay autists that makes up his own "future Trek" costume but the writing and plot will be like it's written by a communist jew who hates Star Trek, because it is.
>>25493
yep. they may try to 'mirror' STD by making Picard the anti-Lorca, but he'll absolutely play the wise mentor to someone pre-ordained to be the focus after Stewart departs. There may also be a hand-off to another legacy character like LeVar Burton. Personally, I'm hoping they bring in Wil Wheaton so he can essentially play himself. Nothing in the history of television could be so honest.
>>25495
lots of 80+ year old Admirals in TNG. McCoy did a cameo in the first episode and he was like double that or some shit. It's dumb when they play it straight, but you can't really argue with it canonically.
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2c5b9c No.25505
>>25504
> I'm hoping they bring in Wil Wheaton so he can essentially play himself.
I want them to rehire the actor they had play Adult Wesley in that 1st season episode, just as the ultimate fuck off to weaton
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d9b61a No.25508
>>25492
Probably have him as a retired Ambassador sitting around at home unsure with what to do with himself and that will be literally the entire series.
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f3997b No.25509
>>25495
I don't think it fits the character. He should've become a diplomat.
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94ab26 No.25516
Can't they find a young actor who did theater and distinguished himself in theater? Like… fuck I don't even mean young. If he's 40 or 50 he's still good for a dozen seasons.
They're also bringing back guys like Schwarzenegger or Sylvester Stallone and they have palsy, their face is fucked up, they can't do any stunts…. just find a young musclebound hulk with a bad accent who has a lot to prove and is willing to be on the set 24/7 until its finished.
WHY DOES HOLLYWOOD KEEP DREDGING UP OLD STORYLINES AND OLD ACTORS??
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cfe78b No.25517
>>25493
>>25508
Perhaps they'll take notes from The Last Jedi's portrayal of Luke Skywalker. That seemed to be a hit with the fans.
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f3997b No.25518
>>25516
>WHY DOES HOLLYWOOD KEEP DREDGING UP OLD STORYLINES AND OLD ACTORS??
Because Hollywood only wants to do character assassinations so they could get rid of the iconic characters and replace them with one-dimentional planks of wood like Burnham or Rey.
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bff455 No.25519
>>25516
Careful what you wish for. Or do you want a Captain Boynega, bihhhh?
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bff455 No.25520
>>25487
I hope the show has nothing to do with space and shit. It should be Piccard with a 45 minute monologue rambling about all kinds of shit while wearing a starfleet uniform.
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09da7c No.25521
>we'll never get a series of star trek where every episode is another different species taking on interesting problems and shitposting at other species at the same time
>wtf no Cardassians bantering with Klingons after they've outplayed them in combat
>wtf no Romulans fucking with Vulcans triping them up with their own logic
>wtf no Borgs purging themselves of autism borgs and becoming something that's not a joke anymore
>wtf no Pektards out jewing Ferengi only to get out jewed themselves
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f81af5 No.25523
>>25521
Good Lord that Data is terrifying. Troi is on point, though.
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7dbe71 No.25528
>>25487
To be honest, Stewart was one of the few Trek actors who actually accepted Trump's presidency with enough grace. That's unlike, let's say, Combs, who can't stop reeing about Trump and anything on the right on his Twitter.
That said, the new series has (((Kurtzman))) involved so this project is already confirmed fucking shit.
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45644f No.25529
I hope Janeway comes back as an Admiral and talks Picard down the entire time.
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a83947 No.25536
Ambassador Picard in charge of an embassy on a planet like Cardassia could be an awesome show.
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efa36a No.25537
>>25487
Picard is an overrated captain. Solving every situation with a dramatic speech or technobabble solution is not real captaining.
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1ddad9 No.25541
>>25523
a bit weak in the milkers department
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7d1955 No.25548
>>25537
Jellico should have taken command. He didn't have time for a honeymoon with the crew. That motherfucker knew how to "get it done".
>I don't like your jerkoff first officer
>I don't like your jerkoff shift rotation
>I don't like your jerkoff fish
>and I don't like you…. jerkoff
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cc864a No.25551
does this mean STD is dead?
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7d1955 No.25552
>>25551
No one knows. Nobody actually watches that faggot shit. It could have been cancelled a year ago and not a soul would realize it.
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4bdfbb No.25553
>>25552
I wonder when they'll bring in Q and Guinan
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898655 No.25555
>>25520
>It should be Piccard with a 45 minute monologue rambling about all kinds of shit while wearing a starfleet uniform.
Frame it as a semi-retired Admiral Picard giving a series of lectures for a 'Topics in Something-or-other' class at Starfleet Academy. Then do the standard TNG morality play bit where it's all social commentary told through thinly disguised analogy. And keep the SJWs out of it, give Sir Patrick Stewart free reign to talk about whatever he wants. For bonus points, include subtle conflict between Picard and the ideologically-driven future-space-future post-modernist faculty/students.
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cc864a No.25558
>>25555
id watch the fuck out of that
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f3997b No.25559
>>25551
CBS can't waste a ton of cash on 2 Trek shows especially when no one is paying to watch STD.
They will probably cancel STD at the end of the season but they won't admit that it was a huge failure.
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06cd45 No.25561
What if the show is nothing but Picard hitting the gym?
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94ab26 No.25567
>>25519
If he's survived the theater circuit, he wouldn't be "captain boynega".
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efa36a No.25570
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0854bb No.25578
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687a5a No.25584
>>25518
Pretty much this. This whole situation makes me upset. They already fucked with the TNG crew bad enough with the films, now this. I would be thankful that DS9 would remain untouched, but rumors still linger about a possible movie, and with everything we've seen of recent sci-fi flicks, I don't have high hopes of it being any good. The only silver lining of all of this is that half of the TOS crew passed away, and Captain Kirk died in Generations, so they can't ruin TOS. Not effectively, anyway.
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0854bb No.25587
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Apparently the new show with Picard is supposed to be set in the Bad Robot universe along with STD.
>>25584
I wonder what Shatner thinks of all of this.
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45644f No.25588
>>25587
I wonder if Les Moonves partially got #metoo'd because of STD. Like the straw that broke the camels back.
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d9b61a No.25589
>>25578
Need more frost on the Frosted Frakes.
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588378 No.25590
>>25518
>>25584
They're going to give us the TLJ treatment while there's still time
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0019bd No.25594
>>25584
Come home, White man.
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23bf80 No.25597
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>>25487
He'll play a gay captain who is in love with his twink first officer.
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0fe7ef No.25608
>>25587
>Nu-TNG set in the Jew Jew shitverse
>they won't stop until they retcon everything with Current Year standards
Also Shatner probably hates its, but he might not say anything since he probably hopes he can still make cameos in the new show.
>>25594
>Babylon 5, the true home
This.
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45644f No.25612
>>25597
Daphne aged like spoiled milk.
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a9a040 No.25620
I hope they captain pike him tbh, if he was coming to Orville I welcome it, but CBS Trek is so cucked atm, I have no anticipation of this turning out good.
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0854bb No.25621
>>25620
>if he was coming to Orville I welcome it
He was supposed to but I doubt CBS will allow it.
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d28954 No.25628
they could have at least gone with the captain worf idea, he's still young enough to hide behind all the makeup
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09da7c No.25629
>>25628
captain worf might be interesting if he stopped being autistic as fuck tbh
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c4e5d7 No.25634
>>25628
>>25629
Didn't they turn him into Ambassador Worf?
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7d2f53 No.25635
New Picard in a nutshell.
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09da7c No.25636
>>25634
doesn't mean he can't be captain
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387282 No.25688
>>25635
If I am honest I would be okay with that,
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0eaaf0 No.26485
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RLM made a video about Mike's fanfic tier idea for a Picard series that he came up with after hearing about the official one. I think it's alright, I guess. Dunno if I like the idea of the ship traveling through time since time travel has to be done really well to work right. Like the idea of ignoring Romulus being destroyed, though, that was stupid.
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1d0ea4 No.26487
>>26485
Not crazy about the idea of yet another "ship is stuck slowly moving through unfamiliar area" meta plot when we already ran that into the ground with voyager and enterprise's 3rd season. Also being on some new ship, whether it's an actual newly made ship or just an old one we've never seen before is half the fun of a new ST series. People didn't hate the discovery, because it was new, (ignoring the people who bitch because it doesn't look enough like a low budget 1960s tv show set) they hated it because the spinners were retarded looking and the spore drive was a terrible concept. Even a Galaxy class Refit would be better than what would literally just be a beat up, dusty version of the enterprise D set.
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a9ca45 No.26488
>>26485
It not a great pitch, but it's definitely better than any garbage CBS is going to come up with. We're in the age where Fan Fiction is more creative than the shit its based on.
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b80195 No.26489
>>26485
>RLM
>>26487
>People didn't hate the discovery, because it was new, (ignoring the people who bitch because it doesn't look enough like a low budget 1960s tv show set) they hated it because the spinners were retarded looking and the spore drive was a terrible concept
I mean those are bad, but they're the least of CIScovery's problems.
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1d0ea4 No.26492
>>26489
Name dropping some contemporary figure or inventor is rather common for Trek. Hell, they flat out had Hawkings play himself on TNG. Gods know even the elon musk reference in STD was still less cringe than that episode of Legends of Tomorrow where they sucked Obama's dick for forty something minutes
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b80195 No.26493
>>26492
That little clip isn't the worst of STD either, really. I just don't have a webm saved that encapsulates "BASED NEGRESS SAVES CURRENT STARDATE FROM TOXIC MASCULINITY" in 30 seconds or less.
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70091d No.26495
>>26485
I respect his thought processes, but my autism will not allow many of his plot and setting concessions just to have easy shit to write about. Like, lets bring Geordi's kids along on this dangerous mission. By the end, though, I just thought if you're going to start disregarding bits from the films, why not just pick a point from Generations, re-enact it, and fork the timeline so the Enterprise-D never gets destroyed (which the show always assumed would be the future), then go from there, like his mission idea. In fact, I would go so far as to call it Star Trek: Recovery as a double-entendre to fuck with nuTrek.
>>25608
>Shatner probably hates it, but he might not say anything since he probably hopes he can still make cameos in the new show.
PStu almost certainly was offered a boat load of cash and other assurances to participate in nuTrek. Otherwise, it makes no sense for a former Star Trek actor to get involved with a reboot that is actively trying to replace and permanently vault their prior work. Frakes and McNeil are directing so they don't care. Gates McFadden just wanted to be invited to the premier of STD. Leonard Nemoy was too old and possibly had no idea what was really at stake and what JJ Abram, Paramount, and CBS were conspiring to do. At this point, Shatner has to know, like every other actor and he would have no reason to "return" for them. It's one thing to reprise Kirk in a DirectTV commercial or for a clip at an awards ceremony. This is something entirely different and the cat's out of the bag as far as what nuTrek really is. Patrick Stewart is a weird case, though. He might not care about the politics involved or Star Trek as a franchise enough to say no, and a fat paycheck + the opportunity to "revisit Picard" in some gaynigger actor sort of way might be enough to sway him. True artfags are pretty much the same as other high-functioning autists. They're dumb as fuck in a lot of ways. Shatner isn't quite the autist, though. He's more of a shitposter and retains his jew wily nature and i'm sure he gets what is going on.
>>26492
>famous person, famous person, name we made up
it's a recognized trope in genre fiction. It's basically a cheap tool a writer can use to tweak the sense of realism and versimilitude. It's also lame, and hack thing to include and really bizarre in Star Trek because it always backfires when your show isn't about trying to "future shock" or otherwise disorient your audience. It just comes off as confusing, superfluous, and out-of-place.
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888427 No.26498
>>26492
>Name dropping some contemporary figure or inventor is rather common for Trek
Sure but Musk is not an inventor, he's a business man.
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1d0ea4 No.26499
>>26498
normies see him as an Howard Hughes type eccentric jack of all trades philanthropist.
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7b330c No.26500
>>26498
Musk graduated with a double-bachelor in economics and physics, was literally hands-on in the development of Falcon 1, and directly supervises SpaceX's engineers. That's not exactly standard issue businessman territory, especially since he leaves day-to-day business decisions to his COO.
Let's be fair to the man: if he was just in it for the money, he'd have put his paypal payout straight into wall street like every other greedy econ/physics quant, instead of trying to get into the super-high-startup-failure-rate auto and aerospace industries. And he's not a form-over-function marketing scumbag like Steve Jobs was. Musk and his engineers push technological envelopes. That's worthy of respect.
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33ce12 No.26501
>>26495
>>famous person, famous person, name we made up
"Abraham Lincoln, Jared Fogle, Laro Barnaeysh"
Well sheeeit, it makes for a decent enough time waster on a long car ride.
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85a597 No.26504
>>25584
>Captain Kirk died
HE DIES ALL THE GODDAMN TIME, IT DOESN'T MATTER. KIRK COMES BACK WHENEVER HE DAMN FEELS LIKE IT.
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3ea27d No.26505
>>26500
>Musk and his engineers push technological envelopes. That's worthy of respect.
It's kind of hard for me to respect a company that's only solvent fue to government subsidies and gibs. And while his stuff might be more substantive than Jobs's, much of Tesla's worth and popularity is still based on memes and hype.
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7b330c No.26507
>>26505
Oh, could we knock the fuck off with this "SpaceX survives on handouts" horseshit? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
If you want to talk aerospace handouts, how about the fact that SpaceX competitor ULA (50/50 ownership: Lockheed Martin and Boeing) has been paid about $1 billion per year by the US government for the past 15 years to build and fly NOTHING. Seriously, it's just money to keep technicians employed and factories open. Google "ULA launch readiness contract" before you start bitching about imaginary SpaceX handouts that exist only in your head.
Or how about the fact that the NASA "hands out" $87 million as taxi fair to Russia to fly each NASA astronaut to the space station in a Soyuz? That's like paying a $1000 for a two-mile Uber trip in the back seat of a volkswagen.
Or how about the fact that NASA's paid Boeing almost $12 billion over the past nine years to build SLS, a an already-obsolete rocket that won't fly a test flight for another two years - assuming the schedule doesn't slip even further. A disposable rocket with estimated $1.5 billion construction costs, and which will only fly 1-2 times per year and only carries about 10% more cargo than the already-flying R&D-already-paid $250m-in-disposable-mode Falcon Heavy.
And before you start whining about how SLS can actually carry 130 tonnes, that's for the planned Block 2 version that's not likely to ever be designed, let alone built. The current Block 0 design is 70 tonnes max payload. Compare and contrast to 64 tonnes for Falcon Heavy in disposable mode at 1/6th of the price.
So, on the one hand we have a private launch company bidding in open competitions and paying for their own R&D, resulting in cheap and reliable flights. On the other hand, we have government spending at least an order of magnitude more money on corrupt wasteful cost-plus defense contractors, and funding Russia's coffers on the side.
Riddle me this, Batman: which one is better value for money for the taxpayers? I think it's pretty fucking obvious.
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b80195 No.26508
>>26507
>Oh, could we knock the fuck off with this "SpaceX survives on handouts" horseshit? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
I was talking about Tesla, not not SpaceX. I think it goes without saying that SpaceX, a company whose sole client is governments, can't survive without government money. You are aware that Tesla is gliding on state funds, right?
>Lockheed, Boeing, NASA
Yes, these are are all welfare queens as well. What's your point? Does the fact that lots of companies take gibs alter Elon Musk's status as a member of that group?
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7b330c No.26509
>>26508
Oh please. Tesla is even LESS of a valid "but they take handouts!" target than SpaceX. Tesla took out $450m DoE loan for electric drivetrain development in 2010. Those loans were available to any company who wanted to bother applying. The Tesla loan was to come due in 2023.
Key word: loan. Not corporate tax break. Not gift. (Or "gib" as your simian mind keeps repeating.) Not cash handouts. Not bailouts. Loan. As in, Tesla pays the government back later, with interest. It's kind of a common thing in finance. If you knew anything about business (which you don't seem to) then you might have heard of the concept.
Not only did Tesla make regular payments on time in 2012 and 2013, but they paid the entire loan back with interest in 2013. TEN FUCKING YEARS AHEAD OF TIME. Tesla put that money to good R&D use, and then quickly paid back the taxpayers everything that they were owed. Sounds like a pretty good fucking deal to me.
If you want to talk auto industry cash gifts from government, go look up Chrysler and General Motors' financial history over the past decade. They sure as shit didn't pay back what they were given in handouts to keep them alive. The taxpayer loss on General Motors alone is about $10.5 billion; $49.5 billion went in, $39 billion was recovered after the US gov sold its last GM stock in 2013. Chrysler was a $1.3 billion loss for taxpayers; $12.5B went in, $11.2B was recovered in 2011 after the stock sale.
As for the other usual "handout" accusation, tax breaks for car buyers, I have never heard of a Tesla-specific tax break. Every electric car tax break I know of in any legal jurisdiction is for ANY electric vehicle. Don't blame me if non-Tesla electric cars are overpriced underperforming shitheaps that the general public avoids like the plague.
You're spouting bullshit. I'm just not sure why. Is it true ignorance and you're just repeating memes you've heard elsewhere? Or are you a straight-up shill for LM/Boeing/Roscosmos VIPs pissed at SpaceX for eating their lunch, or car makers/oil companies pissed at Tesla for making their tech obsolete?
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85a597 No.26510
>>26509
>(Or "gib" as your simian mind keeps repeating.)
i agreed with you until you were a cunt. go back to watching Rick and Morty.
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888427 No.26513
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13b486 No.26514
>>26500
having fuel tanks reland them selves after take off isn't an innovation, it's a waste of fuel, thus waste of money and also more hazardous to the oz. tbh
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85a597 No.26515
>>26514
the whole point of a rocket is to leave the Earth. if we have other planets, who gives a shit?
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1be556 No.26517
>>26515
Because we don't actually have other planets yet? Don't get me wrong, I'm all for telling the earth and who ever might still be on it to go fuck itself and laugh as it's all slowly consumed by the sun dying out, but I'm not going to do that until we have at least a couple of self sustaining colones on other planets to run off to first
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bff455 No.26519
>>25629
Captain Worf would be great. In a comedy.
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340da1 No.26520
>there are still anons on fullchan who think trump has any merit to him
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13b486 No.26521
>>26515
while I agree with that and also think we wont ever get off this rock without utterly wrecking it. I hope it doesn't actually come to that.
>>26519
star trek ENT saw to it that the klingons are for comedy just as pretty much like any other alien race too tbh
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dc8169 No.26525
>>26519
Yes, Worf would be great as the straight man in a wacky Trek show.
I'm thinking he fucks up, gets reassigned to be the captain of a ship filled with starfleet's wacky rejects. Over the course of the series, they earn each other's respect, and he turns them into a well oiled machine. Lessons learned all around. Kind of like Irresponsible Captain Tylor, but with an actually competent captain.
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dc8169 No.26526
>>26525
Maybe "Down Periscope in Starfleet" is a better way to describe it.
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731c88 No.26713
>>25505
As a better way to get back at Weaton have someone else play the character
>"Sorry Will, but you just don't look like Wesley anymore, and your public image wouldn't help either - don't worry, I'm sure the new guy will do fantastically with the character you made important!"
Then, when you've booked Dwayne, The Rock, Johnson to play Wesley you write an endless stream of scenes where Wesley gets cucked by a Pakled into the script (and so into canon) and whenever Wesley opens his mouth to speak someone tells him to shut up, if he tries to talk in 10 forwards the entire bar will tell him to shut up, even when he's alone in his cabin if he tries to speak the captain will tell him to shut up over the comm link, no matter what.
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0fb0bf No.26714
>>26713
>Then, when you've booked Dwayne, The Rock, Johnson to play Wesley
Why would you do that to the Rock?
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debf0a No.26999
>>26485
The destruction of Romulus gives Star Trek writers the opportunity to mine the current political situation as they always have and deal with rapefugees in Europe.
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debf0a No.27004
>>25487
I saw one of the special promotional shots of him back in uniform.
It seems one of the perks of looking old from a young age is that when people take your pic decades later it seems as though you haven't aged much from that point on.
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25ac61 No.27005
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bacc07 No.27010
>>27005
Is he there to make sure they don't plagiarise this time?
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d9266e No.27027
>>26519
The Worf that abandoned his son?
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d9b61a No.27037
>>27010
They will find some other obscure video game to rip off the characters and story from.
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debf0a No.27059
>>25487
Tell that to John Malkovich….he's a fuckin pirate.
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7983f4 No.27060
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>25587
>Apparently the new show with Picard is supposed to be set in the Bad Robot universe along with STD.
The source who reported this is the same one who reported actors leaving Nu-Trek 4. So this signals the death of Star Trek…
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bff455 No.27064
>>27027
You hold that against him?????????????????
I salute him for getting rid of his 25% human bastard. Kid was also a honorless little shit. He would have brought nothing but shame to the house of Mogh. He'll never be a real Klingon! Let those old kikes on earth raise him for what he is. A use- and dickless little shit!
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220c17 No.27067
>>27027
>>27064
He race mixed with a libshit cat lady who was was riding the cock carousel, Alexander's le 25% face and general fagginess are all his fault
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a83947 No.27068
>>27064
Alexander grew up to be a fairly awesome diplomat/warrior on TNG who time travelled back to kill himself for being weak.
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d9266e No.27070
>>27067
Worf is the worst character on TNG besides Wesley. Why do people like him?
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58d73a No.27071
>>27070
B-but, muh noble savage.
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b19d15 No.27072
>>27071
I personally enjoy him because he overplays his noble savagery in his autistic human-indoctrinated LARP of actual Klingons that are nowhere near as noble nor as savage as he portrayed them. I mean they have their muh honor shit too but they're not joyless stoics and he's actually a pretty shit Klingon as he later more or less realizes and in DS9 somewhat corrects. He really benefitted from that huge arc though, if we never got DS9 my take would probably be less favorable.
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debf0a No.27090
>>27068
>Alexander grew up to be a fairly awesome diplomat/warrior
The outsiders usually do.
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debf0a No.27091
>>26489
I don't think Musk even likes Star Trek much, the stuff he reads is slightly more obscure (to NORMALFAGS, calm down).
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530976 No.27097
>>27068
friendly reminder that time travel plots aren't canon unless they follow-through and close the loop (like Star Trek IV) and that Star Trek doesn't believe in fate. Just knowing the future assumes you've already changed it so this shit they just showed you is now non-binding.
Time traveling characters or glimpses into the future should be viewed as fun "dream" episodes, otherwise All Good Things would have ensured that the Enterprise-D is never destroyed in Generations and many other events are off the table.
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bff455 No.27099
>>27067
You are correct, it is his fault. So do you want to see your mistake running circles around you every day? Hell no, you get rid of it. So it's totally OK for Worf to abandon his wifes son.
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2e92f4 No.27135
>>27097
All Good Things is better than the movie canon though
>>27099
Is anybody a bad enough dude to edit le 56% face with Klingon ridges, Vulcan ears, etc? Applications seem limitless…
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71b057 No.27146
According to some insiders, the new Picard show (Star Trek: Destiny) is pretty much a Bad Robot production.
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b80195 No.27148
>>27146
The only thing worse than being terminally cynical and pessimistic about every new production is constantly being proven right.
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a83947 No.27172
>>27097
>friendly reminder that time travel plots aren't canon
Link for where paramount said this or you are talking out of your asshole.
Any event shown on screen is canon, dialogue trumps visuals, ship power was retconned from TOS to TNG.
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764d44 No.27195
>>27172
>paramount is my authority
imagine being this person
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debf0a No.27196
>>25504
>pic
that was one of the worst tng episodes
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8e5d5d No.27198
>>27146
>Star Trek: Destiny
>Hey, you know that last show we did?
>Remember how it shared an acronym with Sexually Transmitted Disease?
>For our next show, let's continue that theme.
I'm half convinced it's a deliberate in-joke among the production staff they chuckle about as they exchange
POZ LOADS
in the studio backlot.
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debf0a No.27199
>>27198
Actually now days we call it "Star Trek: Infinity", because the word Destiny upsets people.
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85705f No.27200
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b267c4 No.27221
>>27199
I want this to happen for real.
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a83947 No.27225
>>27195
>the owner of star trek since its inception doesn't determine canon
Retard.
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a7e370 No.31449
>>25520
Lol. It should be a sit com on Communist Star Fleet earth.
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e4fd5b No.31450
>>27195
>>27225
>This [stupid shit by the current copyright holder which contradicts the previous story] is canon!
<No, this [stupid shit from the previous but not original team of writers] is canon!
Alright, I'll give you fucking dorks some good advice: trying to determine what "really" happened in a fictional and self-contradictory series split between multiple different authors and ip holders is retarded. Even if it weren't then by this standard the next writer or ip holder could just decide that the previous "canon" isn't anymore, so what the hell's the point? If it really bothers you how shit the story has become then just make up your own canon in your mind. So based on this irrefutable standard here's the actual canon:
>The All good things scenario is how the future turns out, excluding the actual events of the episode which are nullified after the anomaly is closed
>The replicator cloning Riker and anything else really stupid that happened was a dream
>STD never happens, and you know what, neither does Voyager, fuck Janeway
>Armen Tanzarian was just an MK Ultra false personality implanted in a secret army experiment, he really is the real Principal Skinner
>Z ends after the Frieza saga, Bulma marries Yamcha, Tien marries Launch, and Krillin marries Marin
There you have it, by word of god.
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b6f0dd No.31458
>>25521
I'll watch you when you sleep
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a55f90 No.31460
>>31450
No. You have no credibility. Now what?
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5ddd4c No.31467
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1acae8 No.31477
>>31450
Declaring nutrek non-canon is not as arbitrary as declaring, say, VOY non-canon because nutrek has no links to the original production teams, no thematic similarity and is separated by years from the last production. Roddenbery was involved with TNG, for example, and crew, characters and storylines were carried from TNG into DS9, VOY and ENT so you have at least some shared parts as well as just being broadly similar in terms of tone.
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764fb9 No.31478
>>27005
Never trust a man who crosses his legs.
>>27060
I've said it before and will say it again, Star Trek 4 will still be in the Kelvin universe and have a recasted TNG crew.
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b27a88 No.31479
>>25493
No, no you don't get it.
You see the first officer will be a pre-op transgender female (so a male) and the world's first TRANSRACIAL black woman (therefore white) as well as being a lesbian (into women, therefore basically straight since she's a he). They can get all their virtue signaling while at the same time literally just re-casting Riker as-is.
This is what you call "playing both sides", and getting away with it.
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716f02 No.31527
How would /strek/ write the return of Picard?
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bd0757 No.31535
>>31527
Well, firstly we should probably ask, does this character need to return? I'm not really big into the idea of Star Trek just being stuck in nostalgia mode as a franchise. It should be forward looking. It should be giving us new characters who we come to appreciate just as much as Picard.
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cfe78b No.31537
>>31527
cast Stewart as Picard's half-romulan alternate timeline rape child
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b70873 No.31540
>>31535
Yeah I'd love just a regular show. An occassional cameo is a fun thing but I dont think these 90 year old actors need the work that bad.
Hell, if you wanted to make something sorta canon have one of the riker's father a kid and play off a my two gay dads thing without either of them being gay. Just have him be an ordinary starfleet guy (or perhaps if you want to do something different have him on a patrol not exploration ship, as 2nd command (as an extremely green lieutentant and take command as a still green lieutenant commander in season 2 after fighting something notable). Use some of that IP without it being all captains and admirals and shit. Emphasis on Frigate level ships and a small crew (think 20 people total) as riker goes to collect his gym badges/rankup/get in 15000 hours of bridge command experience so he can apply as first officer on a bigger ship. Be nice to have something that is not so SAVE THE UNIVERSE but still wanted to explore the trek universe.
The real catch is it's never explain'd if he will's or thomas's son. Never have him be called number one (or at least not until show finale) and never have him grow beard).
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0426bf No.31541
>>31540
>two rikers have a kid
I'd watch the shit out of that but didn't Thomas Riker go maquis? That means he's either dead or in a penal colony.
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df1dda No.31542
>>31541
He's pretty much left to rot in jail.
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df1dda No.31543
>>31541
>>31542
Forgot to mention, in a certain star trek videogame, there's a mission where you rescue Thomas from prison, so if that game counts as canon, thomas is free and still with the maquis I'd assume.
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cfe78b No.31554
>>31541
Doesn't Picard have congenital mental brain insanity?
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d176c3 No.31556
>>31543
They don't, games and books are not officially canon.
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df1dda No.31559
>>31556
They should, they're comparably better than all the newer crap.
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a9a040 No.31578
waiting for the rule34 ST:CP memes to start the salt flowing
with special holodeck guest star pedobear
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a9a040 No.31579
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a9df96 No.31693
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a9df96 No.31694
>>25635
this is why they made the internet, for things like this.
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fef594 No.31701
>>31554
You mean Irumodic Syndrome? Due to his time-jumping, Crusher was able to detect the small defect that might have brought it on at Picard's suggestion, so it's possible he was able to get some preventative maintenance done on it.
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b70873 No.31708
>>25521
Startrek, Starchan edition
>be me
>Pakled obviously
>ferengi comes
>offer to play a game
>dumb ferengi wagers
>72 draws and a win later get wager
>Am pakled lol
>what are stembolts
>ferengi offer to dispose for modest fee
>notsureiflegit.origfile
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b27a88 No.31806
I just want to say that watering grapevines via spraying them from above with hovering robot water tankers, while sci-fi "cool" (and a quick way to show the audience that this takes place in the future) is going to fuck the up. You water them with a drip system, or don't at all because drought makes stronger plants that produce better wine. You see all that fucking grass that's uselessly growing in the ground between the rows of vines? That's what you get by spraying water like that!
Also: bourgogne-franche-comté is just a region in France. That doesn't tell me which fucking wine that is. What idiot prints a label for a wine bottle and doesn't put on it the varietal(s) of wine? Do you expect me to taste it and then GUESS??
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e309ef No.31807
>>31806
>Also: bourgogne-franche-comté is just a region in France. That doesn't tell me which fucking wine that is. What idiot prints a label for a wine bottle and doesn't put on it the varietal(s) of wine? Do you expect me to taste it and then GUESS??
In the future it refers to wine made not only in that region but with a specific varietal, like Burgundy.
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756755 No.31867
>>31806
Producer here. That's the plot. Picard fucks up so bad at the vineyard he gets kicked out and has to go back to Starfleet.
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d0ea93 No.31873
>>25487
fuck off stupid fag
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6e0870 No.31881
>>25635
Not even a /strek/ie but fkn lol
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50a823 No.31882
>>25594
It's a shame we'll never get more.
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b838c5 No.31885
>>25487
>queer revisionism.
You must not have watched TNG, it already had LOTS of queer episodes
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d97599 No.31898
crack cocaine costs money. i bet he uses a fake oscar as a dildo.
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ab03a1 No.31901
>>25516
Why the fuck hasn't it been cancelled? I couldn't even stomach more than 1 episode.
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e51a5a No.31912
>>25516
To tell the masses that white men are all old and over. There will never be a new white actor action star. They don't want it.
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b27a88 No.32001
>>25516
>Can't they find a young actor who did theater and distinguished himself in theater?
Theater is dead. It's too expensive for normies and largely is just more productions from decades (if not centuries) ago. A lot of people harp about Hollywood being creatively bankrupt, but the fact is literally every single creative medium in existence (movies, TV, animation, video games, books, theater, music) is the same way. There isn't enough profit in being avant-garde, so every company is taking the "safe" option of rehashing the same old shit.
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533837 No.32054
>>31901
Loads of investors and it being too big to fail now. Basically a lot of money got shoved up front and they have to produce something or risk being sued.
>>32001
Local and amateur theater can be quite good providing the actors are not pretentious and up their own ass.
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b27a88 No.32110
>>32054
Local and amateur ANYTHING can be quite good. But that's never going to be on TV.
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7de379 No.32402
>>25520
I hope the show is 45 minutes of Picard rambling while his pitbull mauls children, while wearing a starfleet uniform
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feb308 No.32468
>>25548
Anon here is correct, he, was awesome.
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b27a88 No.32602
>>32402
>while wearing a starfleet uniform
Who is wearing it? Him, the children, or the dog. Because each of those is increasingly hilarious.
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b0d5c8 No.32694
>>25555
Picard is going to be rewritten as the high priest of social justice.
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8cfaaa No.32697
>>32694
Of course he will. They mistake the character's mind minded philosophically driven principles as wokeness and subservience to feminism. These dumb fucks have been doing this shit especially hard for the last few years with people who clearly never watched any Trek running around social media screeching about how evil white nerdy dudebros didn't pay attention to the lessons they believed Trek was preaching.
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6a99a6 No.32698
>>32602
The dog is the first officer
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769eab No.32701
The fact they chose a dog instead of Spot really speaks volumes.
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b27a88 No.32741
>>32697
Picard was egalitarian insofar as the person in question had competency. Supposing the writers create a Mary Sue character, in-universe of course Picard would be behind her all the way.
>>32701
A cat would be much more valuable on a winery anyway. Cats eat vermin and keep themselves fed and clean; dogs make nuisances of themselves, shit everywhere, and then go play around with poisonous snakes.
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f9c517 No.32743
>>27060
> Nu-Trek
No such thing. Entirety of ST canon is:
TOS
TAS (optional)
movies 1-9
TNG
DS9
Voyager (Tuvok/Seven/Kim eps only)
Enterprise (3/5ths canon)
Then Star Trek ended. RIP in pieces.
Possible renewal options of actual Star Trek:
Axanar
Worf show
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ee97e6 No.32755
>>32743
Sorry lad, Nemesis, Orville, and Galaxy Quest are all canon too. And all of VOY and ENT, even Threshold.
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fef594 No.32775
>>32755
Nemesis is only canon if it's a holodeck simulation created by an Irumodic Syndrome-ridden Picard.
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92c92b No.32776
>>32775
Nemesis had Janeway in it not drinking coffee. What do you think?
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b27a88 No.32812
>>32776
They made her quit coffee when she took up the Admiralty, as they discovered that her coffee was actually infected with brain parasites.
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044faf No.32823
>>32812
Isn't that key to becoming a Starfleet Admiral though?
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9de54c No.32835
>>25493
>>31912
I'm in awe at the things you people can turn into liberal conspiracies.
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f9c517 No.32842
>>32755
>Orville, and Galaxy Quest
Orville is superior television.
Galaxy Quest is good. Heard they made another which I assumed got SJWed into garbage besides typical sequel failure.
Not Trek though.
Meanwhile STD is also not canon but isn't good either. I assume… haven't watched a single episode.
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f9c517 No.32846
>>25493
> Picard won't have Picard in it
And what does your theory predict they'll do with the series name? More likely the whole thing is an elaborate pass-the-torch thing to say goodbye to old heroes as they are obsolete in age of SJWism.
Like Rey Wars… I could be a Jedi if I wanted, better than all Jedi, but Jedi are lame and busted because they impose some sort of logical form on my SJ rants. It's well-known logic and form are both colonialist and ableist.
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f9c517 No.32847
>>25555
>And keep the SJWs out of it, give Sir Patrick Stewart free reign to talk about whatever he wants. For bonus points, include subtle conflict between Picard and the ideologically-driven future-space-future post-modernist faculty/students.
You forget Stewart constantly goes on long feminist rants. His dad slapped his mom around so now he's all about domestic violence and muh patriarchy.
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fdffbe No.32870
>>32743
>Axanar
Will it really ever be released? It is probably cringeworthy as well, but those oldsters that made it probably want to see it before they are senile.
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09c966 No.32872
>>32870
>Will it really ever be released?
That would require Alec Peters to stop creating drama all around and start filming.
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fef594 No.32884
>>32835
There are many places you can go where you can not be in awe of that.
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bd0757 No.32887
Can we stick to one thread for this? It's kind of annoying.
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f9c517 No.32895
>>32872
>start filming
I thought they settled and he agreed to kill the project.
Something something about "webisodes" but those are universally trash.
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083f13 No.32898
In a perfect universe this show would recapture the spirit of TNG and be basically a mix of that one episode in TNG were Picard went undercover and others with little action and much dialogue containing TNGesque social commentary and such. Of course it'll be some faggot nuTrek shit instead and they'll take a big heaping dump on the character in favor of the Negress of the week who'll take top spot in the production. So progressive!
I also heard Jeri Ryan will be in it?!
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09c966 No.32905
>>32895
I think what was agreed is that he could make 2x15min movies instead of a feature-length movie.
I know that he's been building a set for months now.
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50b66d No.32908
>>32898
Ryan's almost certain to be a single episode cameo. And the white dude captain in the trailer will likely die within the first two episodes leaving the tough talking strong black woman who don't need a man to take over as the captain of the NotSerenity, since the character was listed as the captain in the leaked cast list.
And I still think they'll give the romulian monk dude some connection to Spock. I totally believe they'd try and make him be Spock's secret love child.
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0081f9 No.32920
>>25503
Damn your eyes, that's not Janeway!
Janeway was an ugly old tart, that's a fetching young woman!
You LIAR!
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4fac8c No.32923
>>25504
>You wont see anything from TNG on this show,
Except Data, Riker, Troi, the Borg…
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33aaf5 No.32930
>>31912
You can't ever be happy, just like SJWs.
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076320 No.32933
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2e3138 No.32936
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4ede7c No.32974
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f5b43a No.32978
>>32923
Frosted Frakes will bang on about misogynistic Starfleet I bet.
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5bc858 No.32983
>>25487
his face is the symbol of reruns
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7ec6ea No.32988
>>32987
Why are you posting Wizardry maps
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872d14 No.32991
Make it so (insert super old man voice)
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bd0757 No.32993
>>32991
>I engaged myself today…
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397166 No.33004
>>25487
Maybe the son of Mogh will finally lose his shit and just ass-fuck this Shakespearean cunt to death.
Stand ho thy grinning face and dropeth thy linen. T's timeth f'r Sir Worf to parketh the shuttle in the bay
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6c74a7 No.33005
>>32698
Time to take Number One for his number two.
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3c1fe8 No.33006
>>32835
they've done it with like 10 franchises at least already.
like, just hamfistedly forcing stuff in and entirely destroying in universe context that could possibly make it make even a little sense. there's no way it's not just Insane Propaganda of some kind what's weird is how ineffective it is. like it's honestly like they're the ones that the propaganda worked on so now they're just doing what they know but part of their brain knows it's dumb so it just ends up as some weird, broken and aimless garbage.
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b27a88 No.33009
>>33006
>some weird, broken and aimless garbage
An apt description of your own post.
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c1716e No.33011
>>33009
>Works on the show
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1b8720 No.33016
>>33006
They are as insidious as the Borg. Perhaps in fact they are indeed the Borg?
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5de4d7 No.33024
>>33006
It's not propaganda for you and me, its for our kids and grandkids.
They will point back at the manufactured history and say "look, for the better part of the last 100 years liberal/progressive values have clearly been the norm. Sure just look at [big franchise],[big franchise] or even [big franchise]…they have a god damn [progressive stereotype] as their protagonist!!"
This is the covert infiltration of the progressive social engineers.
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83177d No.33030
So when do we create a show about a retired Dukat overseeing Bajoran workers at his Kanar Distillery?
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b27a88 No.33049
>>33024
>Implying anyone here will ever have kids
>Implying humanity won't be extinct by the time they could have kids
Naive.
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23bf80 No.33058
>>25503
gib fem cap pls @Warp10
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