c8919b No.18910 [View All]
The Cardassians are the greatest race in all the Glaxay. Talk about your favorite Cardassians and how they are superior to other inferior races.
Does anytone think they are autistic enough to try writing a Cardassian style mystery novel?
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a608c1 No.23633
>>23569
They are mainly diaper wearing college dropouts that seek approval within their morale circlejerks.
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8aa4ee No.23663
>>23633
Didn't quite work out that way, Dubsman, considering how popular the Cardies turned out over the crinklenoses.
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78cacd No.23681
>>23663
>Species of interesting, complex, conflicted characters who are perfectly set up for fun storylines
vs.
>MUH PROPHERTS!
How could the writers/studio ever have thought this would go any other way?
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8aa4ee No.23683
>>23681
Less "muh Prophets," more "whine whine antagonize whine whine muh Occupation."
I mean really, if they wanted us to feel sorry for them, there needed to be less jabbering, and more horrible scarring, like that cyborg we saw in TNG. A picture is worth a thousand words, and Kira's description of atrocities in Duet could have set up some fun character and makeup stuff.
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78cacd No.23694
>>23683
The Bajorans could have been a lot more sympathetic if we actually saw some of the damage the occupation caused. Not in flashbacks or 'temporal anomalies' but what state the planet was in after the Cardassian withdrawal.
>Bajoran cities with entire blocks still in rubble
>Bajorans still living in refugee camps
>Have the constant agricutural crises actually shown on screen
>Shit, treat them as anything other than just a species whose hat is having a chip on their shoulder.
It could have been interesting to have Kiera fall outside of the SF rank structure on the station as well. Have her actually act as more of a Bajoran liason officer rather than a ridgeknosed member of the command staff, bring up some conflict. I suppose you can handwave a lot of her cooperation as 'following the emissary', but it still seems like a missed opportunity.
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384011 No.23716
>>23694
The thing is it was heavily implied that Bajor was on the brink of all out war before the Cardassians came. Factions were fighting for control, there was no attempts to tap into their resources efficiently, Bajor was headed for chaos. If the Cardassians hadn't given them a "common enemy" they would likely have destroyed themselves. Even in the first few seasons of DS9 you hear about all the infighting going on and Bajor came close several times to tearing itself apart.
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78cacd No.23721
>>23716
>Dukat tried to help
>But they wouldn't let him
>He only wanted to liberate Bajor from the stranglehold the 'prophets' had kept it in
>He only wanted to unify them in the love of the Pah Wraiths
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0e4fd2 No.23755
How do Cardassians discipline their children? refuse to take them to the Opera?
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11299a No.23764
>>23755
you have to eat all the tespah eggs.png
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78cacd No.23768
>>23755
>How do Cardassians discipline their children?
They don't need to. A Cardassian child who has misbehaved in any way or even just failed to live up to the expectations of their parents or teachers will approach their parents, grandparents, and great grandparents. Once there the child will inform their elders of what their failure was, explain the punishment they have already given themselves and ask if that is sufficient to earn the forgiveness of their family.
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bf34be No.23782
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384011 No.23783
>>23782
Cardassians aren't Vulcans
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818815 No.23800
>>23783
Isn't that spankings?
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7ba848 No.23806
>>23800
A proper Cardassian lady can only be produced by having a series of lenthgy admonishments applied to her spooncunny.
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b50814 No.23827
>>23694
The problem is that the "bajoran occupation" wasn't nearly as destructive as it was made out to be.
Essentially the Cardies found a planet full of pacifists, and told their government to pay Cardassia Prime some taxes in terms of resources. This was a purely political occupation, not military.
The Bajorans agreed to pay the taxes, but basically didn't have the complex machinery needed to extract resources. So Cardies sent machinery and teachers to help them become industrialized.
A bunch of hopped up theocrats then fomented the "resistance" which interfered with resource extraction.
It was only at this point that the Cardassian government began a MILITARY occupation. But even then it wasn't anything likea war, Cardassia just sent some soldiers to protect its own interests on Bajor, establish checkpoints and the like.
Bajoran scum terrorists kept attacking and hiding among civilians, so Cardassians bombed the civilians.
Bajoran terrorists then claimed Cardassians are evil, and bombing civilians for no reason.
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2d68d0 No.23871
>>23827
There's a critical part of your post you aren't addressing.
>Essentially the Cardies found a planet full of pacifists, and told their government to pay Cardassia Prime some taxes in terms of resources.
Why?
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08992b No.23873
>>23871
That depends on how exactly the annexation happened. Marritza claims that Bajor surrendered without bloodshed, and Kira doesn't contradict him. Obviously the term "surrendered" implies it was less than voluntary on Bajor's part, but given the passage of time and historical revisionism it's difficult to say how accurate this is. The annexation may have been completely voluntary at first, with some Kai whipping up agitators later, voluntary for some factions but not others, or in fact made completely under duress as the (((official))) records imply. Personally, I think the second of these is most accurate. We know that Bajor was extremely fractured prior to the Cardies, and were teetering on global war. What probably happened was that one or more of these factions reached out to the Cardies and agreed to cede them the system and mining rights, in exchange for local political control. This group (or more likely groups, I imagine they had majority) has been purged from official records in order to enforce the Occuhoax narrative, and its most prominent members rebranded as Collaborators in the official history books.
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11299a No.23875
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>>23873
>Personally, I think the second of these is most accurate. We know that Bajor was extremely fractured prior to the Cardies, and were teetering on global war. What probably happened was that one or more of these factions reached out to the Cardies and agreed to cede them the system and mining rights, in exchange for local political control. This group (or more likely groups, I imagine they had majority) has been purged from official records in order to enforce the Occuhoax narrative, and its most prominent members rebranded as Collaborators in the official history books.
That is pure unaduleterated anti-Bajoran load of complete fuck, it actually makes a lot of sense and extremely plausible I will have you know that Bajor was and is a complete space mid-east clusterfuck of a mess and your offensive and plainly dangerous so called theory should be discussed in every non federation controlled comm network.
Bajor was and always will be a planet of Peace thanks to the Prophets, Peace be upon Them, with only a minor Federation sanfagsisco space gommies assistance during some challenging crop seasons that ultimately brought Peace+.
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b50814 No.23898
>>23871
Well what else should the Cardassians have done? This is an honest question.
While walking in a dangerous jungle your friends and you find a starving man with downs syndrome, what do you do? In my personal opinion the thing to do is bring him along with you for protection teach him some job to do so he feels useful. Only an absolute coward would simply leave a retard in the jungle, or a pacifist people in a very dangerous quadrant of space.
>>23873
Cardassia had a military presence on Bajor for TEN YEARS before the annexation, and there was no trouble. It was another 25 years before terrorists started organizing… and then another two years before Cardassia Prime responded by appointing a discraced ex-Legate like Gul Dukat to suppress the rebellion.
Basically Cardassians came in 2318 and ruled peacefully for a time, then the terrorist attacks forced the creation of a military occupation in 2346, which didn't really do anything evil until the 2360s.
There wasn't any war or initial occupation of Bajor, the Cardassians came and the Bajorans just agreed to be governed by them. The Cardassians abolished the Bajoran Caste system which kept 80% of the Bajoran population in permanent indentured servitude, brought education, industry, protection and order to the planet.
Kira killed Gul Piraks children, and did far worse in the war. She was a fucking terrorist and deserved to die.
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dc4de9 No.23915
>>23898
>discraced ex-Legate like Gul Dukat to suppress the rebellion.
Where was it mentioned Dukat was an ex-Legate? I thought he didn't attain that rank until the Detapa council gained control in 2372.
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885af4 No.24165
>>23915
It was mentioned at almost every opportunity that during the (((Occupation))) he was a Legate and got demoted to Gul afterwards. When he joined the Dominion he said he didn't have himself reinstated as Legate as he grew fond of the Gul title. Go back and watch DS9 all over again. Every episode even the terrible ones especially the terrible ones as punishment in the future kids don't get spanked they get threatened that if they don't behave they have to watch Move Along Home
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68d39f No.24182
>>24165
>When he joined the Dominion he said he didn't have himself reinstated as Legate as he grew fond of the Gul title.
Right, and isn't he talking about the time he was promoted to Legate and became the Chief Military Adviser to the Detapa Council in Season 4? He was definitely a Legate for a brief period within the series' runtime, and that's what I've always remembered. He may have been a Legate offscreen as well at one point, maybe I've just forgotten that particular line.
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c2e76e No.24195
>>23915
He was a legate offscreen before, it's part of the backstory. I think it was mentionsed in one of the retarded time travel episodes where Dukat is masterfully monologuing about how the Bajorans really should love him.
Getting sent to Bajor was part of his "punishment"…
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04667e No.24276
>>24195
That does sound familiar now. Truly Punished Dukat is a far better hero than Cardassia deserves.
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384011 No.28282
He really did nothing wrong.
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009cbd No.28284
>>28282
>there exists a universe where Marc Alaimo played Thrawn in Episode VII: Heir to the Empire
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00923b No.28355
>>28282
>villainous roles
Such fucking slander!
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05d03a No.30358
We need more Cardassians again.
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d627b9 No.30417
>>30358
Indeed we do. What we really need is the rping autist that knew Dukat's first name to come back and rp more.
also here's the obsidian order copypasta:
Excuse me. What did you just say about the glorious Cardassian race, you insignificant pile of vole droppings? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Cardassian Military Academy before joining the Obsidian Order, and I’ve singlehandedly masterminded no less than a dozen secret raids on our most pernicious and deceitful enemy, the Romulan Empire, and I have executed no less than 300 Romulan agents personally. The Order has given me top notch training in interrogation techniques and I can assure you that I am the top assassin in the entire Cardassian Union. Why, you are nothing to me but just another sniveling traitor asking to be removed. I will disappear you with unparalleled swiftness and superior precision the likes of which has never been seen before in this entire sprawling galaxy. You can mark my words. You think you can get away with spreading such foul treasonous slander in this quadrant? Think again, traitor. As we have been chatting here so enjoyably, I have already made contact with my vast network of Cardassian agents across the quadrant and your coordinates are being transmitted right now so you better prepare for the storm, you thin cortexed scum. The furious storm that swiftly and mercilessly wipes out the pathetic little existence you've managed to cobble together for yourself. You’re already dead, my little friend. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can end your life you in no less than seven hundred ways, and that is just by merely using my bare hands. Not only have I extensively and thoroughly trained in Obsidian Order interrogation techniques, but I have been given access to every single resource the Cardassian Union has to offer, and I will use them to their fullest extent to make sure your foul and disgusting countenance is no longer able to disgrace our proud race. If only you had the basic reasoning and critical thinking skills to predict what cold correction your “clever” little comment was about to forcefully bring down upon you, maybe you would have not been so bold as to speak up, but tactfully held your tongue instead. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, you found yourself utterly unable to hold yourself back, and now you’re going to be forced to answer for what you've said and pay the price, you simpleton. I will rain righteous Cardassian fury all over you and you will drown in it, pleading for me to let you get one more breath. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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8c444e No.30461
I've been getting a lot of DS9 suggestions on youtube. All the shit with Garak or Dukat is excellent.
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062ee0 No.30469
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82d385 No.30472
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711396 No.30475
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>>30461
This. Garak and Dukat saved the show.
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c7c831 No.30476
>>30475
How is it that Garak is in only 37 episodes? Truly a larger-than-life character.
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711396 No.30477
So who's the worst race in Star Trek? I nominate the Asians.
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be27b0 No.30481
>>30477
the last one is not an actual Star Trek character, newfriend.
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89adcb No.30486
>>30477
Hoshi was a good as Empress.
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ec2399 No.30493
>>30486
>mirror universe
>enterprise
>good
No.
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a27771 No.30498
>>30486
Does that mean Cannibal Granny Space Hitler might be a descendant of MU Hoshi?
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088e30 No.30503
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1b43c9 No.30512
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06c7d3 No.30564
>>30512
The mirror universe sucks. It should have been one TOS episode but now it's in everything Star Trek.
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eaae3a No.30596
>>30564
STD is not canon anon. or Star Trek
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384011 No.32890
So when do we annex this site? http://forcardassia.com
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b2daf8 No.32907
>>32890
I'll put some feelers out. We'll see what happens.
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384011 No.32910
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378fff No.32980
>>32890
Is this 2 Guls 1 Hasperat?
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6f8153 No.33007
>>30477
It's clearly the Kazon. They are klingon-knockoff literal space niggers (writers say they are based on LA street gangs) who aren't even worth getting biodroned by the borg and did not manage to produce a single interesting plot point. Bad as most of them were even the other asshole aliens on Voyager managed to at least bring something to the table.
Also Keiko and Kim did nothing wrong and STD is bad fanfiction.
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6fa7a9 No.33018
>>33007
I don't think Kazon are a real race though and that Voyager is just as one anon described, a holodeck simulation to test the mental state of Vuclans Tuvok in regards to a ship that is crewed by the patients of an insane asylum.
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92cc5d No.33063
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>>33007
>Keiko did nothing wrong
You mean other than being a bitch to O'brien at every opportunity?
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