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A thread dedicated to everything Hammer related – the films, the actors, directors, Hammer Glamour Girls, &c., &c.
YT videos:
Hammer Films Radio Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDkS9Sj3Aho
Legend of Hammer (Part 1): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abGGibw4l6g
Legend of Hammer (Part 2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOgujkRFHhA
Legend of Hammer (Part 3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bICC1qfaslU
Frankenstein – The Curse of Frankenstein (1957), The Revenge of Frankenstein (1958), The Evil of Frankenstein (1964), Frankenstein Created Woman (1967), Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed (1969), The Horror of Frankenstein (1970) & Frankenstein and the Monster From Hell (1974). IMHO the only weak links in the series are The Evil of Frankenstein & Frankenstein Created Woman. While The Horror of Frankenstein is often considered a letdown, due to the lack of Cushing as the baron, and the very dark comedic tone, it is a really enjoyable film, and one of the underappreciated Hammer films.
Dracula – Dracula aka Horror of Dracula (1958), The Brides of Dracula (1960), Dracula: Prince of Darkness (1966), Dracula Has Risen from the Grave (1968), Taste the Blood of Dracula (1970), Scars of Dracula (1970), Dracula A.D. 1972 (1972), The Satanic Rites of Dracula (1973) & The Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires (1974). The two first films are fantastic, and Brides is perhaps more enjoyable than the original despite Lee not returning as count Dracula. The following films does not feature Cushing as Van Helsing till Dracula A.D. 1972, and Lee’s mostly, if not completely, silent Dracula does not manage to make up for the lack of Van Helsing. Taste the Blood of Dracula is a decent entry into the series, though I would have liked to see them go with the original idea of having Ralph Bates character become possessed by count Dracula, instead of Lee being blackmailed to returning to a role he did not enjoy and give a forgettable performance.
The Karnstein Trilogy – The Vampire Lovers (1970), Lust For a Vampire (1971) & Twins of Evil (1971). The Vampire Lovers is arguably Hammer’s finest film, and is a must watch for connoisseurs of sapphic kino and Gothic horror films. Lust For a Vampire is a good follow-up, and Yutte Stensgaard does a good job in the role of Carmilla. The third and final entry in the trilogy might as well be a stand-alone film, and is far from Hammer’s best.
The Hound of the Baskervilles (1959) – while it takes considerable liberties with the original story, it is a very good atmospheric film with a lot of charm. Stars Peter Cushing as Sherlock Holmes, Christopher Lee as Sir Henry Baskerville, and Hammer regulars Miles Malleson and Ewen Solon.
The Two Faces of Dr. Jekyll (1960)
The Curse of the Werewolf (1961) – despite a lengthy opening it is really good, and equally as tragic and ebautiful as ‘The Wolf Man’ by Universal.
The Phantom of the Opera (1962)
The Kiss of the Vampire (1963)
The Gorgon (1964)
The Reptile (1966)
The Witches (1966)
The Plague of the Zombies (1966)
Dr. Jekyll and Sister Hyde (1971)
Countess Dracula (1971) – Loosely based on the murder claims surrounding Elizabeth Báthory. The story is similar to Hammer’s Dr. Jekyll and Sister Hyde. For some reason Ingrid Pitt’s voice was dubbed over by an uncredited actress (Olive Gregg), something she never forgave the filmmakers for.
Blood of the Vampire (1958) is not made by Hammer, but is very similar when it comes to visuals, and was written by Hammer regular Jimmy Sangster. Interestingly it features a character named professor Meinster, which is the surname of the baroness and her son in Hammer’s The Brides of Dracula from 1960, co-written by Sangster.
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No.1218
>>1217
>I have never actually seen all of E.T.
Blasphemer!
I don't know how it would be to watch it for the first time as an adult. Probably very schmaltzy. One of the few Spielberg's that I like. Or I should say it falls in his fun movie period. Great soundtrack and featuring cute as a button Drew Barrymore (who's food magically gets larger as she eats). Making this webm (no spoilers) I want to watch it again now. Might watch it tonight.
>Have you seen Troll 2?
I haven't seen any of them. Only the oft shared clip of the boy with the bad acting.
<and then they're going to eat me…
I need to see it sometime.
>and the actress who played the mother is now a basket case.
Because of the movie kek?
>the dad tries to strangle the boy to death
Oh I remember that now, and the eye.
>Speaking of films you could never remake in the current year: Sleepaway Camp from 1983. Someone had spoiled the ending for me, but If you haven’t seen it, you are in for a wild ride.
Kek yes I have seen this, and the sequels! Has become a favourite. Would absolutely never be made today. I tried desperately to find a soundtrack some years ago only to find out that the original tapes had been destroyed! Dedicated fans had made some tracks available by ripping them directly from the movie. I quite like Angela's Theme.
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No.1229
>>1218
>Blasphemer!
I know ;_;
Since I am already in trouble, I might as well confess that I haven’t seen any of the classic Indiana Jones films either…
Drew is so young there, I doubt if I would have recognised her.
E.T.' came out two weeks before The Thing I think, which may have affected how that performed at the box office. Though most reviewers at the time seemed to detest it because it was so nihilistic and dark and gory.
>I don't know how it would be to watch it for the first time as an adult. Probably very schmaltzy.
I think you are right. It might be one of those films you have to have seen growing up to be able to fully enjoy later.
>Because of the movie kek?
It probably didn’t help!
It was really sad to see though – I think the actor who played the kid brother made the docu, and he visited and talked to the rest of the cast and some of the crew. The guy who played the dad seems like a swell fella – great sense of humour. They both decided to visit the actress who played the mother, seeing her for the first time sense they starred in the film, I think, and if I remember correctly she never left her house – at all, and she was clearly mentally unsound, so the whole visit seemed awkward as fuck.
>Kek yes I have seen this, and the sequels!
I have only seen the first one so far. Is it true that one of the sequels is a comedy?
Normally horror films have to one up the previous film, but I have no idea how they would be able to top the ending in the first one.
Thanks for posting the OC with the soundtrack! Much appreciated.
I might have to watch it again, and maybe the sequels?
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No.1230
>>1229
>I haven’t seen any of the classic Indiana Jones films either…
Boy you better have seen Jaws…
>E.T.' came out two weeks before The Thing I think
They couldn't be more diametrically opposed in content about aliens. If they both came out now at the same time Alex Jones would have a fit about the infowar.
>It was really sad to see though
Sad. Should I watch the movies before watching the doco or would it not matter much?
>Is it true that one of the sequels is a comedy?
2&3 are comedic and I quite enjoyed them. Very different from the original but coherent continuations. I have a feeling 4 (made in 2008) was made to capitalise on the recent revival in interest in Sleepaway at the time. I only watched it once and thought it sucked. Maybe I should watch it again but I remember it being just bland. Though now I do remember there was at least a fun twist at the end that made it the viewing experience easier.
>I have no idea how they would be able to top the ending in the first one.
They don't come close. 2 & 3 are fun slashers but I doubt much could top the ending of Sleepway Camp.
>Thanks for posting the OC with the soundtrack! Much appreciated.
Most welcome!
>I might have to watch it again, and maybe the sequels?
For sure. The sequels were fun. Talking about it makes me want to watch them again.
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No.1231
>>1230
>Boy you better have seen Jaws…
Eh, does Jaws 3D count?
>They couldn't be more diametrically opposed in content about aliens.
Hollyweird often release similar movies at the same time. I think The Abyss came out close to Leviathan in the late ’80s, both taking place in the deep sea.
>Should I watch the movies before watching the doco or would it not matter much?
Not sure. I don’t think it matters tbh. Troll 2 is a meme movie, so I doubt it will be ruined by watching the docu first.
>They don't come close. 2 & 3 are fun slashers but I doubt much could top the ending of Sleepway Camp.
Sad! I get that they wanted to cash in on the first film, but it just feels like it would hurt the legacy of the original. It would probably be hard to come up with a twist to top or compare to the first film…
And now for something Hammer related: I’ve been a right fool! It seems Lorrimer is a petform of Lawrence, I was skimming thru Dracula A.D. 1972 the other night, and they referred to Professor Lawrence Van Helsing as Lorrimer in it, so they didn’t change his name after all!
I always thought Larry was the petform of Lawrence…
Btw., the soundtracks for Hell Night and The Gate are really awesome as well. Especially the end credits for The Gate are Elder God tier, and that synth score in Hell Night as they try to escape the mansion, only to find themselves locked in by the tall stone fence and locked wrought iron gate – amazing!
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No.1232
>>1231
>Eh, does Jaws 3D count?
Shit is that the one when they have the underwater section and the shark breaks the glass? Traumatised me as a kid. Refused to ever enter an underwater ocean thing. Never actually was presented with that situation but it was in the back of my mind for years. Like that scene in one of the Nightmare on Elm Street sequels where the woman drowns in the shower. Jaws is definitely worth the watch. Well made, some heartwrenching scenes. Classic dialogue.
>Hollyweird often release similar movies at the same time. I think The Abyss came out close to Leviathan in the late ’80s, both taking place in the deep sea.
So true. And so obvious. There will suddenly be 3 or 4 movies with the same subject/plot/setting coming out at roughly the same time. The poor guy who originally comes up with a concept must get so screwed over.
>Sad! I get that they wanted to cash in on the first film, but it just feels like it would hurt the legacy of the original.
I remember when I watched the sequels I didn't mind much because, although consistent with the first they (2&3) occupy their own space. I need to watch them again now because I can't remember much.
>It seems Lorrimer is a petform of Lawrence
Wow, first I've heard of Lorrimer tbh.
>I always thought Larry was the petform of Lawrence…
Maybe Larry came into common use after Lorrimer fell into disuse? I always wondered how Bill/y came from William.
>Btw., the soundtracks for Hell Night and The Gate are really awesome as well.
Can't wait to check out Hell Night and give The Gate another viewing.
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No.1233
>>1232
>Shit is that the one when they have the underwater section and the shark breaks the glass?
Yup! That is the one. I only watched it less than a year ago though.
Guess I will have to add a lot of popular films to my watch-list…
If Jaws 3D traumatised you, what di you think of Creature, the 1998 TV mini-series from 1998, based on the novel (White Shark) by Peter Benchley? That shark/dolphin hybrid was pretty creepy.
>I need to watch them again now because I can't remember much.
That must mean they are pretty decent.
Also, we can agree that Part VII – The New Blood is the best film in the Friday the 13th series by far, right?
>Wow, first I've heard of Lorrimer tbh.
Same. I saw his name on the book in the film, Professor Lawrence Van Helsing, and then one of the police detectives calls him Lorrimer… They did change his ancestor’s name into Lawrence as well.
>Can't wait to check out Hell Night and give The Gate another viewing.
Yeah, I think I’m gonna have to give them another watch myself.
Any progress on the list of Hammer horror to watch?
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No.1234
>>1233
>what di you think of Creature
I'm afraid I have never seen nor heard of this.
>we can agree that Part VII – The New Blood is the best film in the Friday the 13th series by far, right?
That one was great! Really liked the heroine. I have a feeling I liked all of them up until the Jason takes New York bomb.
>Any progress on the list of Hammer horror to watch?
I haven't thought about it yet sorry :s But if you have some suggestions I'm all ears.
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No.1237
Welp I just watched E.T. again. So corny you would not believe but I still cried. Also noticed that one of the kids in the movie was the cop in Kindred… E.T. was his first acting gig.
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No.1246
>>1234
>I'm afraid I have never seen nor heard of this.
If you like sharks and horror it should be the thing for you. I watched it on TV back in the day, and it was pretty spoopy. Craig T. Nelson & Kim Cattrall play the leads, and the special effects, which were done by Stan Winston, are really good.
Photos of the monster, mostly BTS/making of – massive spoilers, obvi.: https://monsterlegacy.net/2013/03/13/monster-gallery-peter-benchleys-creature-1998/
>That one was great! Really liked the heroine.
IKR? It was the first Friday film I saw, and it is still my fave. Such a great idea to breathe new life into the series and make it stand out. It was the first film Kane Hodder played Jason as well.
>I haven't thought about it yet sorry :s But if you have some suggestions I'm all ears.
No worries. Take your time.
>>1237
Damn, not sure if i would have noticed it was the same guy myself.
The only films that made me a little teary-eyed is The Lord of the Rings (Fellowship & Return in particular), and Boy A.
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No.1266
>>1246
>Photos of the monster, mostly BTS/making of
This looks like fun. Added to the list.
>The only films that made me a little teary-eyed is The Lord of the Rings (Fellowship & Return in particular), and Boy A.
Fellowship had me rekt at Boromir's end. Great adaptation. I'd never heard of Boy A but loved Garfield in Never Let Me Go (Another film that just destroyed me). I'll add Boy A to the my backlog but am worried that it's going to be awfully depressing?
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No.1302
>>1266
I screwed up; there is actually a interesting article on Creature on the site as well, talking about changes from the novel and the inspirations behind them: https://monsterlegacy.net/2013/03/13/peter-benchleys-creature/
>I'll add Boy A to the my backlog but am worried that it's going to be awfully depressing?
’tis. It is a real downer, so be prepared for that; a really bleak and depressing film. Just when you think things are working out they come crashing down harder than before.
If you do watch it, I would very much like to hear your take on the ending.
There were quite a few moments in Return of the King that were really powerful; Théoden’s speech and subsequent death in particular. His last words to Éowyn… That was perhaps the change from the books I like the most. For some reason Aragorn’s speech before the Black Gate did not have the same impact on me that Théoden’s had.
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No.1307
I just found 'Captain Kronos: Vampire Hunter' on YT. Could be our next Hammer movie to watch? Heard references to it many times but have never watched it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsWAVsRefSg
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No.1311
>>1307
Lovely stuff! I looked it up on Wikipedia and it stars Shane Briant (from Frankenstein and the Monster from Hell) & Caroline Munro (Dracula A.D. 1972). Looking forward to seeing this one.
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No.1312
>>1103
Finally watched this last night.
>Not really a fan of any of the songs in this film.
I liked the first song Winslow was singing at the piano.
>The blood in this film must have been inspired by Hammer horror films – the colour is very similar to the trademark blood in all the Hammer films.
Too right. Like when Swan removes the dagger from Winslow.
>>1135
>he literally signs the contract with his own blood. For someone who is familiar with Faust he really should know better tbh.
Right. And I also had a problem with how Swan acquired the power of the devil (over life and death) just because he too had signed a contract?
I guess I really should get around to reading Faust.
Phoenix was repulsive in character. What the hell was Winslow thinking? I guess by the time she revealed her nature he was so far gone and had already built up an idolised image of her? Phoenix and Swan may not have been of the same feather exactly but they were certainly alike enough to flock together. Actually the movie felt like it was coming to an end by the opening of the Paradise. I felt it drag on after that.
The split screen bomb song segment was great.
>when Winslow found the tape
HOW can it take so long to decide to destroy it!?
>>1311
Fantastic.
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No.1313
>>1312
I’m not gonna pretend like I have read Johann Wolfang von Goethe’s Faust, or seen F. W. Murnau’s Faust – Eine deutsche Volkssage (1926), but I think everyone knows the basic gist of the story. Doesn’t Swan at one point even give Winslow the TL;DR version?
About the contract… It does feel a bit off that Swan is able to make deals with people like the one he made with the Devil. I get that the film is making a point about artists signing away their rights to evil corporations, but the idea that a mortal man who made a deal with the Devil can do it as well doesn’t really work IMHO.
As for Phoenix, Winslow saw her true colours after he had already signed away his work/soul, so there wasn’t much he could do, but he came off as a weak character when he continued to pine for her. Swan pretty much cucked him too, and he just watched and cried before he tried to kill himself.
>HOW can it take so long to decide to destroy it!?
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=sVgVB3qsySQ
I think Swan’s recording studio/company was originally called ‘Swan Song’, but in order to avoid getting sued by someone who already used that name, they had to change it. I think that is why you have this goofy-looking effect where the new name has been put over the original in post production. Look at Swan’s podium when he gives his press conference on the air field – the new name is clearly added later.
Also, there is a new Hammer style film coming out next year: House of the Gorgon
Some familiar Hammer stars on the credits, but the trailer looks so bad I could not even finish it. It looks like a very bad amateur fan film, and with neon lights for some reason. I love me some neon, but not in a Hammer film.
I also stumbled upon a podcast episode dedicated to Hammer horror the other day: https://actionagogo.com/2018/10/31/cinema-shame-hammer-horror-shamedown/
Only thirty min in yet, but they have mentioned the reused sets, and the infamous stairs!
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No.1318
>>1313
>I think that is why you have this goofy-looking effect where the new name has been put over the original in post production. Look at Swan’s podium when he gives his press conference on the air field – the new name is clearly added later.
OMG yes! I was going to ask what you thought might be going on with the podium with the clearly edited footage but forgot. Webming it now and noticed the death bird on the back of the thug. So I guess they re-filmed that section with the crowd?
Also forgot to say I thought Beef's performance, while generally great, was a bit too much with the camp characterisation. It came across as a mockery of gay men. Minstrel like. Rather than believable as a character. Though I guess the other characters are like that. I got Rocky Horror vibes from the movie but felt that it failed precisely due to that kind of poor over the top acting of the characters that Rocky pulled off convincingly.
Just noticed as well that there appears to be the original swan logo on the exclusive photographer's jacket.
>https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=sVgVB3qsySQ
Why you little.
>I also stumbled upon a podcast episode dedicated to Hammer horror the other day
Will check it out.
>Only thirty min in yet, but they have mentioned the reused sets, and the infamous stairs!
Great minds anon.
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No.1326
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>1318
>ebming it now and noticed the death bird on the back of the thug. So I guess they re-filmed that section with the crowd?
>Just noticed as well that there appears to be the original swan logo on the exclusive photographer's jacket.
Nice catch! I don’t think I noticed the original logo. I assume they filmed the crowd scene with the original ‘Swan Song’ logo, but only bothered to change the logo on the podium? Don’t remember if they changed it in other scenes as well, or if they reshot or filmed them after they were forced to change it.
>Also forgot to say I thought Beef's performance, while generally great, was a bit too much with the camp characterisation. It came across as a mockery of gay men. Minstrel like. Rather than believable as a character. Though I guess the other characters are like that. I got Rocky Horror vibes from the movie but felt that it failed precisely due to that kind of poor over the top acting of the characters that Rocky pulled off convincingly.
I think I read that the actor playing Beef felt the same way; that it was too campy and over the top. It is a wee bit distracting, but Swan and Winslow are also rather out there.
>Great minds anon.
Not so sure about that; the guys on the podcast talked smack about the Hammer Phantom of the Opera. Very disrespectful!
Btw., have you seen the TV series Hammer House of Horror? Thirteen episodes, all of them standalone stories. Looks like they all take place in the present day (ie 1980s). Only watched the first episode so far, and I didn’t get any Hammer horror vibes from it; it is rather different than the Gothic look and atmosphere I am familiar with when it comes to Hammer, with the exception of the Dracula films set in the present day of course. Cushing is in at least one episode, and I recognise Brian Cox’ name.
https://networkonair.com/box-sets-bonanza/2726-hammer-house-of-horror-the-complete-series-blu-ray-
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No.1327
>>1326
>Hammer House of Horror
Boy is that a blast from the past. One of our tv channels used to have a Sat night line up in the 90s.
>Hammer show
>Old 70/80s European horror movie
>Eat Carpet (a show featuring short clips and films by indie film makers/animators)
It was a great line up. Of course I can't remember anything beyond how good the line up was. Would love to see the Hammer series again. I wish I could find out the movies they used to show as well.
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No.1330
Actually, now that I think about it the Hammer series that was played before the movie each week, might have been a doco series. Or maybe a presenter talked about Hammer stuff before presenting each episode.
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No.1373
>>1327
>>1330
Sounds like I really missed out; none of the TV channels here showed anything worthwhile back in the day. if they did something similar nowadays I would watch it for sure; a sexy vampiress horror host and some classic horror film would be a welcomed change from all the crap they broadcast these days.
The Hammer House of Horror series might be one to keep on watching then. I think one or two of the episodes are said to be quite good.
>I wish I could find out the movies they used to show as well.
Do you remember any titles?
>Eat Carpet (a show featuring short clips and films by indie film makers/animators)
For real? Sounds like a missed opportunity to show some sapphic kino tbh, or maybe it would be a little too on the nose.
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No.1375
>>1373
>a sexy vampiress horror host and some classic horror film would be a welcomed change from all the crap they broadcast these days.
How fun would that be!
>The Hammer House of Horror series might be one to keep on watching then. I think one or two of the episodes are said to be quite good.
Shout Factory has made them available to watch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDFKH6qeRHA
>Do you remember any titles?
Unfortunately, none at all. I just remember they tended to be European. The most I can remember is an Italian (I think) one set near a castle.
>For real? Sounds like a missed opportunity to show some sapphic kino tbh, or maybe it would be a little too on the nose.
Ha yes for real. I'm sure they had some sapphic/queer content included. I just can't remember.
So I just looked it up and you'll never guess where the name came from…
<The name appears to come from an anecdote about Adolf Hitler, recounted by a diplomat who, while waiting for an audience, saw, through a partly open door, Hitler throw himself down on the floor and start biting the carpet. William Shirer, in his book Inside the Third Reich, says the diplomat subsequently referred to Hitler with the pejorative German word Teppichfresser, which translates as 'carpet eater' or 'carpet gobbler'. The term denotes utter madness.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eat_Carpet
Certainly not the reference I thought it made all these years.
AND someone has made at least the first episode available it seems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWGhntjYUGU
They must have had Liquid TV on just before or after Eat Carpet in the line up because I remember this intro so well as being apart of those nights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27p1TBLhjDI
The best I can find of something similar to the line up is this 95 archive paper of the SBS schedule. So the show was The World of Hammer a doco series. This was in a different city but I imagine the line up was close.
This dude also hosted cult movies on the channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-oLUG92GsA I think this was later in the decade than the Horror line up though. But I did find some people listing films he used to present here
<Oh Des ! Those Italian Lesbian Vampire Movies !! With the Underwired Nightdresses. And Excessive Eyeliner. sigh
https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/34pfub/des_mangan_cult_movies_a_list/
The 90s were /comfy/ in many respects.
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No.1376
<And he explained that Hitler had been in such a maniacal mood over the Czechs the last few days that on more than one occasion he had lost control of himself completely, hurling himself to the floor and chewing the edge of the carpet. Hence the term "carpet eater."
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/William_L._Shirer
Hitler was a carpet muncher.
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No.1402
>>1375
>Shout Factory has made them available to watch!
Just watched the first one. It stars Patricia Quinn of Rocky Horror… fame! I would recognise that laugh anywhere.
A different vibe from the usual period Hammer but fun. Reminded me of Tales From the Crypt (1972) in style.
I just realised from the screenshot I took that Quinn is blurred out. I wonder if the original (non youtube) copy is uncensored.
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No.1403
>>1402
I thought there was something vaguely familiar about the guy – turns out he is played by Jon Finch, who played in two Hammer films: The Vampire Lovers & The Horror of Frankenstein. According to Wikipedia he turned down the role of James Bond in 1973, and it says he was cast as Kane in Alien, but had to drop out on the second day of film due to a severe diabetic episode…
I did try to watch Rocky Horror Picture Show some years ago, but I couldn’t get into it… Wasn’t Tim Curry & Meat Loaf in it as well?
Did see one or two episodes of the early ’90s show Tales From the Crypt, but I found the episodes rather pale in comparison to the 1950s EC horror comics – remember the episode The New Arrival in particular; the comic version is one of my all-time favourites, drawn by Graham Ingels and presented in black & white and in pocketbook format when they were reprinted here in the 1990s. The TV adaptation completely failed to achieve the eerie, foreboding atmosphere and Gothic æsthetic of the comic…
is the 1972 film worth checking out? I see that Joan Collins & Peter Cushing is in it, and that it was produced by Amicus Productions, a company that made films in the vein of Hammer & American International Pictures (Roger Corman/Vincent price).
>I just realised from the screenshot I took that Quinn is blurred out. I wonder if the original (non youtube) copy is uncensored.
Sad! The original is indeed uncensored. I take it they didn’t censor the blood and gore in the YT version? Showing a decapitated bloody bird twitching in its death-throes is A-OK, but heaven forbid anyone see a pair of tits.
Hammer.House.Of.Horror.Complete.Collection.DVDRip.H264(BINGOWINGZ-UKB-RG)
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No.1406
>>1403
>Jon Finch, who played in two Hammer films: The Vampire Lovers
Oh my gosh he was the hero!
>According to Wikipedia he turned down the role of James Bond in 1973, and it says he was cast as Kane in Alien, but had to drop out on the second day of film due to a severe diabetic episode…
Poor guy, no luck.
>is the 1972 film worth checking out?
If you liked The Hammer House of Horror episodes, you'll probably like this one. It was ok I guess, kind of like a TV movie. I remember thinking the first story was kind of boring but the stories became more engaging as they went along.
>I take it they didn’t censor the blood and gore in the YT version?
Yep the decapitated, twitching bird is still in there.
>heaven forbid anyone see a pair of tits.
What's up with that? Society is weird.
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No.1409
>>1403
>I did try to watch Rocky Horror Picture Show some years ago, but I couldn’t get into it… Wasn’t Tim Curry & Meat Loaf in it as well?
Yes, and the lovely Susan Sarandon. Tim Curry is fantastic in it imo, along with Patricia Quinn and Richard O'Brien.
How far into it did you get?
I grew up with it so it's another one of those movies that I can't tell how it would be seen by someone in the current year for the first time. I remember trying to watch the semi-sequel/same universe Shock Treatment (which funnily enough has the main chick from Phantom of the Paradise in Janet's role) as an adult, and I couldn't get into it. I recommend giving it another go, if even to find nothing of value in it. But to have seen it from beginning to end. I really enjoy the music.
Current time wannabe cult films can't even compete.
I made a condensed version for you.
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No.1412
>>1403
>>1409
>I made a condensed version for you.
Spoilers, obviously.
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No.1442
>>1406
>Oh my gosh he was the hero!
I could have sworn he played Baron von Hartog who narrates the opening and beheads one of the Karnstein’ vampiresses, and later teams up to help them defeat Carmilla… But looking at it now, I see that I was completely mistaken!
In The Horror of Frankenstein he plays one of Baron Frankenstein’s childhood chums, who we see later as a grown-up as a Lieutenant in the police, and investigates cases of mutilation of cadavers and body snatching following the Baron’s return from medical school…
>It was ok I guess, kind of like a TV movie. I remember thinking the first story was kind of boring but the stories became more engaging as they went along.
I would probably watch anything with Cushing in it, and Joan Collins is an added bonus. I looked it up and I recognised one still from the old EC horror comics: the razor blades on the walls of a labyrinth. In the comic I believe they used nails instead, and as the crook was trying to make his way thu the labyrinth, the lights were turned off, and they released the (starved) hounds after him.
>What's up with that? Society is weird.
Beats me. Would have guessed the sight of the twitching bird and him smearing the blood on his mouth as he was digging a grave for it would have been far worse than seeing a pair of tiddies.
>>1409
>>1412
Guess I ought to give it a second chance then, due to your glowing recommendation. Should I see it before the condensed WebM?
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No.1443
>>1442
>and they released the (starved) hounds after him.
That one was particularly dark and well done.
>Should I see it before the condensed WebM?
I don't think it would make much of a difference. Probably better to watch the movie first. But if you can't be bothered, the condensed version is a snapshot of the madness.
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No.1457
>>1376
At first I thought that sounded like an urban legend à la Hitler supposedly having only one testicle, but given the drugs Hitler’s personal physician kept him supplied with, who knows what kind of effect that had on him, especially as the tide of the war turned against them.
Also, I take it you have seen the meme-y photo of the guy with the Hitler haircut going down on a chick, and her bush has been trimmed to look like Hitler’s moustache?
Finally finished DL-ing Blood from the Mummy’s Tomb and two more episodes of Hammer House of Horror yesterday. The remaining Hammer film are proving a bit harder to get a hold of tbh.
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No.1460
I just finished the second episode, The Thirteenth Reunion. Gotta say, I was not at all sure where they were going with this one. At first it reminded me a lot of an EC Comics horror story which dealt with a new and revolutionary cure for obesity (which has some truly horrible consequences), but then the car accident happened, and I was in the dark.
Speaking of the car accident scene… it reminded me a lot of the two scenes in Beyond the Black Rainbow & Mandy, only here he should tell himself “You’re not doing so good” instead.
It was unintentionally funny how the MacGuffin was sending Ruth to lose some weight! That Scottish personal trainer though… he was good. I doubt they would have made this in the current year, when ‘fat shaming’ is a thing to worry about.
When Ruth crashes the dinner party and she gets talking to the other woman, I feel it would have been better to keep the reveal that they were all survivors of the plane accident (presumably based on the 1972 Andes flight accident involving Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571) till they were actually seated at the table; then we could have had Ruth’s shocked and disgusted reaction while the others are somewhat bemused by her reaction and go on with their meal as she takes off. The way it is in the episode it goes on for too long – the moment Joan mentioned them all being survivors of the plane accident I knew what was going on, but they kept it going for too long.
It seems like a pretty convoluted plan to carry on their reunions tbh.
I recognised several familiar faces in this episode:
Dinah Sheridan – there is something really familiar about her, but looking up her lengthy filmography, the only thing I could have recognised her from would be an episode of Keeping Up Appearances.
Warren Clarke, known for a lot of roles; he’s been in A Clockwork Orange, Firefox, Dalziel and Pascoe, though I probably recognised him from Bleak House (2005)
John Louis Mansi, best known for playing Gestapo agent Engelbert von Smallhausen in ’Allo ’Allo! He was also in Tales from the Crypt (1972)! It all ties together, doesn't it?
Also, I forgot to mention this for the first episode, but they used one of my least-favourite tropes; a character from the past is transported into the present day or the future and reacts to modern technology (electrical light, plumbing, &c.) Can’t stand that trope tbh.
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No.1594
>>1457
>Also, I take it you have seen the meme-y photo of the guy with the Hitler haircut going down on a chick, and her bush has been trimmed to look like Hitler’s moustache?
No. And now you must show me.
>it reminded me a lot of the two scenes in Beyond the Black Rainbow & Mandy, only here he should tell himself “You’re not doing so good” instead.
I wonder how many other films/shows have done this type of scene.
>The way it is in the episode it goes on for too long – the moment Joan mentioned them all being survivors of the plane accident I knew what was going on, but they kept it going for too long.
Yes, I thought so too.
I tried watching beyond the first two eps the other night and just couldn't get into it. Rude Awakening just went on forever and I couldn't care less at the ending. I did like the main actor though, he as in Indiana Jones wasn't he?
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No.1598
>>1594
>No. And now you must show me.
https://cdn.4archive.org/img/1JfiPdR.jpg
>I wonder how many other films/shows have done this type of scene.
Seeing a vision of someone in the passenger seat, urging you on, or mocking you is probably more common that we’d think. I’ll certainly be on the lookout for them in the future.
>Rude Awakening just went on forever and I couldn't care less at the ending.
I genuinely liked that episode – right from the opening I felt this one was more ambitious and interesting that the ones before it. The secretary who changes looks throughout the episode, from dream to dream, was a nice touch. The overall plot held my attention too, though I rather suspected the ending, except for the very last part.
IMHO the episode Growing Pains was, by far, the worst of them. Total Vampyres remake-tier; the story is not only uninteresting but silly and boring, the characters a bore, and the child acting is far worse than you’d fear. The only noteworthy part about it was the main chick who is played the same actress who played the evil White Witch in the BBC series The Chronicles of Narnia from the 1980s and early 1990s (I’d definitely take the Turkish delights she offers in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe without any regrets tbh). She looks amazing in this episode, if only she had been in another, more interesting episode.
Charlie Boy is really good; Guardian of the Abyss and Visitor from the Grave are both decent – the guy in Vistior from the Grave is really good – such a charismatic asshole, and that moustache is the cherry on top. The episode with Peter Cushing is not bad, but not that great either.
The Carpathian Eagle is easily the best episode of the series – really great stuff!
>I did like the main actor though, he as in Indiana Jones wasn't he?
I wouldn’t know, since the only Indiana Jones film I’ve seen is Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls. Please don’t glass me.
Btw., did you know Hammer had planned a fourth Carmilla film, called Vampire Virgins?
Kali, Devil Bride of Dracula or Dracula and the Blood Lust of Kali, was a planned prequel to their Dracula series, and would also been cool to see, and of course their planned Vampirella film! Caroline Munro turned down the role due to the amount of nudity required, same with Valerie Leon, so Hammer decided on Barbara Leigh instead.
http://web.archive.org/web/20181026220224/https://www.denofgeek.com/us/movies/horror-movies/240220/the-vaults-of-hammer-14-unmade-hammer-horror-films
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No.1649
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play. Hammer: The Studio That Dripped Blood, a really interesting documentary from 1987 which features interviews with the cast and crew, and goes into the story behind the studio and the films.
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No.1669
>>1649
Just started watching. Hammer's son sounds exactly like that guy who had the conspiracy site with the woman before they split up over 'Charles' the insider dude. Bill something I think, and the woman was called I can't remember, maybe Cass?
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No.1670
>>1649
Did Lee say he stopped making those satanic films because fantasy became reality?
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No.1681
>>1669
Think I remember that case being discussed on /x/… That’s the one where the guy released the transcripts of the phonecalls he had with this chick who accused him of indecent behaviour when he talked to her (hypnosis?) about her supposed alien abductions?
>>1670
Maybe he bought into the Satanic panic of the 1980s? Or he felt that the nefarious Satanic deeds they portrayed in the horror films failed to shock people who had become desensitised to that kind of thing? On the audio commentary track for Scars of Dracula he said that the over-reliance on gore and blood had been the reason he quit making horror films.
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No.1682
>>1681
>That’s the one where the guy released the transcripts of the phonecalls he had with this chick who accused him of indecent behaviour when he talked to her (hypnosis?) about her supposed alien abductions?
I don't remember that but wouldn't be surprised if it was the same guy. There was this big hubbub about the pair, I think it was called Project Avalon then everything fell apart. They would roam around interviewing all sorts
<Super soldier MKUltra testimony
<Reptilian contactee exclusive
and all that.
>On the audio commentary track for Scars of Dracula he said that the over-reliance on gore and blood had been the reason he quit making horror films.
I think I recall him saying in some interview about how real and dark things actually were (maybe going into the 70s/80s) and he was worried? about people practicing 'black magic' or something. Then again he might have been selling a movie.
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No.1683
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Found it. Billy Ryan. Project Avalon. This is the guy that Bill stuck by as some elite insider. His work partner didn't trust 'Charles' and then left to do her own thing.
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No.1694
>>1681
>>1682
>>1683
Test. These posts aren't showing in the thread.
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No.1695
>>1694
Weird. I had to reply to them for them to show in my browser.
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No.1696
>>1695
Might have have something to do with the minor site-wide crash that happened the other day. Had touse the Anyone/0 login combo to bring back and respond to some threads on another board that also 404’d afterwards.
I take it you heard about the Vice ‘journalists’ who broke into Jim’s house? Methinks they are about to do a hitpiece on the site and hope to get it shut down.
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No.1698
>>1696
>Might have have something to do with the minor site-wide crash that happened the other day.
Suspected it could be to do with that.
>I take it you heard about the Vice ‘journalists’ who broke into Jim’s house?
Yeah wtf? Just read the headlines though, didn't look in to it. They really are trying to tighten the noose. 8 has a tiny userbase.
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No.1719
>>1698
Karma is a bitch though; a lot of mainstream, leftist newsoutlets (CNN, BuzFeed, Vox) have been forced to let people go recently, and Vice themselves may be in trouble…
Disney says its more than $400 million Vice investment is now worthless - Vox: http://archive.vn/wWKtl
>8 has a tiny userbase.
I wish I could say it was a case of ‘quality over quantity’, but when you look at the top/trending boards these days, you just wanna facepalm. Still, it is nowhere near as bad as the ‘competition’.
That Merkel woman gives me the heebie-jeebies big times
Btw., here is one film that had managed to avoid my attention for the longest time. Screenplay by Nigel Kneale, and starring Peter Cushing! It is from 1957, so one year before they made their first colour horror film – not a single seeder on any of the non-shite torrents so far.
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No.1783
>>1719
In a way, that same shit quality is what lets us get away with so much. It could be said that the site caters to the rejects of the internet in general, people willing to discuss things deemed too hot to handle for most sites. That eliminates the need to feign respectability.
Where else could you have a mostly male and third-position-leaning board devoted to sapphic kino? This is an oasis of freedom.
The price to pay is having Japanese sex toy ads but those are for noobs anyways. Any self-respecting user with a modicum of experience on the internet knows how to get rid of them.
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No.1966
Found this podcast called Hammer Horror Podcast covering the Hammer horror films. In one episode from 2014(?) they interview Hammer actor Shane Briant. Only seen him in Frankenstein and the Monster From Hell (1974) & Captain Kronos – Vampire Hunter (1974) so far. Really underrated actor IMHO, and it is a real shame he never appeared in more Gothic horror films for Hammer. As evident from the interview he lives Down Under now.
https://hammerhorrorpodcast.com/shane-briant-insight-into-the-master-of-evil/
<HHP: I just want to touch on [Captain Kronos – Vampire Hunter], because, its interestingly established a cult following, and I just wanted to know what you think is its appeal, and indeed the appeal of vampire stories in general.
<SB: Well, I’m getting a bit fed-up with vampire stories now, cause there are too many of them. Every second film you see on Foxtel is about vampires. The kind of vampire stories I like now are the European vampire stories, there was one I saw, and I can’t remember its name now, but it was about two modern-day lesbian vampires in Sweden. And that was pretty hot. I liked that. And I like the really old ones like Nosferatu.
Sounds like /ourguy/ to me. Any idea what film he was talking about?
Also, here is their coverage of ‘The Karnstein Trilogy’: https://hammerhorrorpodcast.com/2013/10/31/the-karnstein-trilogy-the-vampire-lovers-1970-lust-for-a-vampire-1971-twins-of-evil-1971/
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No.2616
Had a listen to the soundtracks to The Vampire Lovers & Lust For A Vampire earlier, and Ingrid Pitt & Yutte Stensgaard wrote introductions included with the CD releases. Hammer scholar Marcus Hearn also provides a lot of background and insight on the production of The Vampire Lovers.
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No.2618
>>2616
Wow, care to share where you sourced them? Nice find.
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No.2623
>>2618
You can find them on RuTracker.org – great DL speed on both:
Harry Robinson - The Vampire Lovers (1970) (CD, 2000) FLAC
Various Artists - The Hammer Vampire Film Music Collection (2001) FLAC
The soundtrack to Lust For A Vampire didn’t get a CD release on its own, but the five tracks are included in The Hammer Vampire Film Music Collection. There is a brief part in the opening theme (The Opening Credits) that reminded me of the opening theme to Dark Shadows.
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No.2907
Watched the 2018 docu Hammer Horror: The Warner Bros Years by Marcus Hearn the other day. Did not care at all for two of the guys being interviewed, and director Peter Sasdy turns out to be subversive asshole, but there are some cool BTS photos and footage, and the interviews with the actors were great; especially Veronica Carlson & Madeline Smith. Even though the film titled Hammer Horror they spend a lot of time on some of the thrillers, scifi/comedies and adventure films Hammer churned out at the same time.
I think the film is up on YT, but I can only recommend the interviews with the actors tbqh.
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