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http://heimskringla.no/wiki/Main_Page contains a lot of the source texts (the Eddas in particular) in the original Old Norse, and often in the Scandinavian translations as well. There are also scholary texts, and sagas.
The Internet Archive is another great source for free texts on the topics: https://archive.org/
There is a very interesting YouTube series by Maria Kvilhaug that deals with the symbolism of the poems and myths in great detail, and I highly recommend giving her videos a watch. In particular she stresses the importance of translating the names of characters and places – left in their Old Norse (or Anglicised) form they mean nothing to a modern, non-Old Norse speaking reader. The translation of the names are extremely important if we want to understand what the poems and the myths are really telling us.
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=evE6aLg-_Q8&index=1&list=PLxDBGYdDmm2n7-nYh49d9qMJRZB8Z1qSa
One thing that most people don’t know about Norse mythology is that the Norsemen believed in a form of reincarnation/rebirth. It was custom that the oldest son would be given his paternal grandfather’s name, the second oldest son the name of his maternal grandfather, and similarly with the daughters; the oldest daughter would be named after her paternal grandmother, and the second oldest after her maternal grandmother. This would allow the spirit of the ancestors live on through their bloodline. In the sagas there are mentions of characters born with the same marks upon their body as their ancestors were inflicted with. In the Helgi poems in the Elder Edda, it is said that the two main characters are reborn and fall in love again and again – at least three times.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebirth_in_North_Germanic_religion
I think this form of rebirth through one’s descendants sounds like it would help explain the sensation of déjà vu; ‘blood-memories’ passed down from the ancestors in our genes, kept alive and passed down from generation to generation, so that a distant descendant might feel a familiarity towards someone or some place he or she hasn’t known or been to before.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_memory_%28psychology%29
The way the different realms are separated are very similar to how the Norsemen viewed the world around them: the destructive jǫtnar (possibly translates into ‘the devourers’, but known as the stereotypical bad guy frost giants in popular culture) represent the wild forces of nature, and they inhabit he untamed and the potentially dangerous and lethal wilderness that surrounds us. They are opposing forces to the humans and the deities, who represent order, civilization and laws, but not ‘evil’, just as storms and other natural forces and disasters aren’t evil. In the second realm humans live, this realm represents the farms and the fields where humans have settled and worked, cut down trees, built homes and plowed the fields to grows grops and keep lifestock. Farms and fields would be fenced in, similar to the way the worlds in the Norse cosmology are – wilderness surrounds us, then, fenced in, we have the areas where humans live, and inside this, we have the final realm, places of worship and the thing assembly (gathering place to settle disputes and talk legal matters).
I’ll do my best to answer any questions, help with translations, etc. if there is any interest in anything Norse.
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No.1520
>>1519
>…Wait, are you aware Jones was back on the Rogan show like 3 or 4 days ago?
Yeah, for some reason I often get Rogan’s videos in the recommended list/sidebar. They (you know who) probably kept it from trending because Jones was being interviewed. The guy’s been de-personed online by every major tech company, and he tends to fight for free speech, and talk about censorship, so no wonder they wanted to keep it from trending.
Also, the photo in >>1493 reminded me of something, I have seen a theory online that the magical bridge Bifrǫst is actually Northern Light and not the rainbow.
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No.1521
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>>1517
Just saw that Styxhexenhammer666 did a video on the Rogan/Jones vid. I agree with his take on Jones; he puts on a show, but I genuinely believe he is earnest about most of it (gun rights, free speech, globalism, mudslime/nigger immigration, &c.)
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No.1522
>>1521
I don't subscribe to Alex Jones, I don't buy shit from his filtermerchant shop, but Styx is a literal e-celeb; a content aggregator for unironic alt-righters. He has almost nothing of value to say. Millions of other people hold the opinion that Alex Jones is just a showman. Millions of people have already thought, repeated, posted online, etc., the entirety of the opinions that Styx expressed in that video.
<oh by the way that's why i prefer to have the home office so i can keep it simple and independent
Alright, consider me triggered. What a fucking stupidly revealing comment. For someone who collects money for "thinkin bout staf" he has CLEARLY never considered who or what paved the way for him being able to do what he does. He is exactly like the SJWs who simply assume that peaceful societies, sidewalks, buildings, and happy people sprout from the ground from nothing. Anybody can stand on a soapbox on a streetcorner, and that's essentially what Styx is doing, he was just handed an enormous microphone - but by whom?
You tell me: In an age where everyone was what we would call bluepilled, trust in the media was massive and uncontested, and only (((globalists))) were able to disseminate information widely and effectively, who was the first person to seriously attempt to match the production values of the MSM in order to get people to actually listen to the message? I'll give you a hint: It was fucking Alex Jones. So for Styx to go and say in his subtext that he's more impartial, that is only because the "moral" choice of having no sponsors, in this instance, is also the laziest choice, and the fact that "impartiality" is the easiest option is due to people like Alex Jones
I don't give a fuck if Alex Jones doesn't believe ANY of what he talks about - the fact is that he is OBJECTIVELY a pioneer for the sharing of unkosher information, and for some uninsightful lazy cuck to sit back in the chair he jerks off in and talk into a $20 webcam while looking down on a man who has literally risked his fucking KIDS to bring the world information for free so that cucks like Styx can make a living off of repeating cursory observations about the topics Alex pioneered the exposition of is fucking pathetic. Pathetic. The only reason millions of people have their ears open to Styx's message is because of Alex Jones, and the only reason anybody gave a fuck about him in the first place is because they could see he took his own message seriously i.e. RAN A SHOW. Something Styx does not fucking do, because he is too busy not wearing a shirt in half of his fucking videos to actually think or actively gather information, instead of filter-feeding on what shit trickles down from elsewhere. Fuck styxhexenhammer.
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No.1523
>>1522 (checked)
>I don't give a fuck if Alex Jones doesn't believe ANY of what he talks about - the fact is that he is OBJECTIVELY a pioneer for the sharing of unkosher information
Right on.
>Fuck styxhexenhammer.
Wew. I watched the vid and didn't get the impression that he was shitting on Alex or anything. I agree that he seems to be a content aggregator (like most heh). I imagine the value isn't exactly in what he is saying but in that he models to his audience ways of parsing information. Fuck me I am so exhausted and can only think in 'teacher' talk at the moment sorry.
>>1520
>the photo in >>1493 (You) reminded me of something, I have seen a theory online that the magical bridge Bifrǫst is actually Northern Light and not the rainbow.
*looks up Bifrost
What a mind fuck thinking about this as a bridge between worlds or dimensions and how light could play a part in it or this
<possibly connected to bil, perhaps meaning "moment, weak point")
>weak point
Just thinking about fucking worm holes or parallel dimensions.
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No.1781
>>1523
Shiiiieeeet. I had actually made a note in my (very incomplete) translation attempt of the Poetic/Elder Edda that Bifrǫst could be translated as ‘Den bevende broen’/‘the trembling/unsteady bridge’. There is another very interesting bit about Bifrǫst as well; it is said that Þórr cannot use the bridge because the red in the rainbow is fire. So each day, as the gods and goddesses travel to their daily council he has to use alternate route, crossing several rivers/streams.
And since we are all (hopefully) already wearing our tinfoil hats… In the second stanza of the first poem in the Elder Edda, Vǫluspá (‘The magic staff carrieress’ prophecy’) the witch tells Óðinn:
Ek man jǫtna, ár of borna,
þá er forðum mik fædda hǫfðu;
níu man ek heima, níu íviðjur,
mjǫtvið mæran fyr mold neðan.
Which in English could be translated as:
I remember jǫtnar, born in ancient times,
who in early ages fostered me;
nine recall I worlds, nine in the woods,
the great tree under the earth.
So, not only is the witch so old that see remembers the World Tree while it was still a seed in the ground, but she remembers nine worlds. Is she implying that the current world is just one of a series of worlds or universes – multiverses? And in the next stanza she seems to indicate that this world began with a massive sound wave; the name of the giant Ymir translates as ‘The Powerful Noise’. The jǫtnar themselves call Ymir ‘Aurmgelmir’, which could be translated as ‘Mud-Yelper/Bellower’.
It might be worth noting that there is a lava-tube on Iceland called Víðgelmir: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%AD%C3%B0gelmir – that name might mean ‘Wide-Bellower’.
In any case, Ymir’s son is named Þrúðgelmir (‘The Mighty Bellower’), and Þrúðgelmir’s son is named Bergelmir (‘The Bear Bellower’???). All these names indicate that the world/universe started with sound. Maybe spreading outwards like soundwaves or ripples in water, very strong and powerful at first and then decreasing in strength?
Also, back in March I finally got hold of a copy of ‘Ragnarok – En Billeddigtning’ (‘Ragnarǫk – A picture-poem’, or ‘A poem told through pictures/illustrations’). An absolutely stunning work of art; highly imaginative and powerful illustrations: http://heimskringla.no/wiki/Ragnarok_%28Louis_Moe%29
1. Indledning (Introduction)
2. Forberedelse (Preparation)
3. Kamp (Fight)
4. Udslettelse (Annihilation)
5. Fornyelse (Renewal)
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No.1982
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Look at the latest slap in the face of the Nordic people funded by the (((Wallenberg family))), the top shabbos goys in Sweden. According to them there's no Scandinavian culture and they reduce it to irrelevant things they claim that were copied from elsewhere, many of the "copies" being doubtful at best. Notice how the don't mention sauna, lutefisk, surströmming, dynamite or many other indisputably Nordic creations.
Of course they also ignored the intangible. These people would have us believe that the Little Mermaid is a Disney creation if they had the chance.
And there's a blatant display of double standards where the Germanic becomes German and the Ottoman becomes Turkish.
The nigger saying "our viking ancestors" felt like watching a parody. But this is clown world.
I have to say that the ad is uniquely Swedish in its masochism and guilt, though.
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No.1985
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To contrast with my previous post, something actually cool coming from Sweden: Highway 3.
From the same people behind Ghost Rider and Getaway in Stockholm, a fairly new series of street hooning videos. Part 1 was uploaded on September 24 and an interview with the driver was done just last month.
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No.1986
>>1982
lol they deleted it within hours and apparently now a host of articles are blaming the internet for being ignorant trolls and not enlightened enough.
Do you ever get the feeling that mainstream media is the embodiment of gas lighting, manipulative, narcissistic, sociopathy?
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No.1987
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>>1985
>>1986
Saw a thread about it at Gahoole’s new chan-site too, and it was discussed on a news/debate show here yesterday. Some PR tard from SAS came on to “explain” the sitch, saying it only caught a bunch of negative responses after being picked up by “alternative news forums” in Sweden, and that there apperared to be a Russian group involved. This was on NRK, the state-funded/run channel, so they just let this moron defend their ad and push the blame on alt-righters and Russians. Everyone else seemed to love the bold ad campaign, according to this fag.
Red Ice TV made a video easily refusting the claims by some Swedish professor that the Norsemen adopted Muslim Mohammedan symbols. They’ve been removed from YT for wrong-think, but they are on BitChute. Just saw they’ve chimed in on the SAS ad too. Will have to give it a watch: https://www.bitchute.com/video/bapOX8ekGpYf/
The people responsible for that ad must be fucking retarded if they think shitting on the intended audience’s culture is a good strategy.
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No.1989
>>1987
It's like that Stonetoss comic, it's not about selling plane tickets anymore. Pic related, someone had already edited it and posted it all over the place (the original was about burgers).
Did you catch the Kubrick styled scene they put in it with the twins? Straight The Shining reference. I wonder what they intended to achieve by that. The twins disappear in the movie, maybe the message is that white girls will soon be a thing of the past after they're done breeding Swedes out of existence.
Also they didn't just blame the Russians but "Russian bots", to take the tinfoil hattery to a new level.
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No.1990
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No.1991
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Also here's an historian reacting to SAS' propaganda and debunking it.
I haven't watched it yet but our side is pushing it so I assume it's at least decent.
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No.1992
>>1991
Oh I just realized it's the same guy you posted in >>1987
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No.1995
>>1987
>Swedish professor that the Norsemen adopted Muslim Mohammedan symbols.
Will check it out. It wasn't the whole bullshit about the ring with the "arabic" being found on it was it? I remember when a bunch of news stories came out saying muslims was vikings and shit because of that ring.
>The people responsible for that ad must be fucking retarded if they think shitting on the intended audience’s culture is a good strategy.
What is their strategy/agenda/goal though? Pic related. Oh I see >>1989 also mentioned it.
>Straight The Shining reference.
IKR, that was well creepy. And the chanting of women's rights bits. Quite a number of sections are truly like watching a satirical piece in a dystopian movie.
>The twins disappear in the movie, maybe the message is that white girls will soon be a thing of the past after they're done breeding Swedes out of existence.
An anon said something similar about them being dead so the message is that we're dead (soon). OMG and I can't be the only one that saw the similarity of that "only gets worse" girl with the blacked girl.
>Also they didn't just blame the Russians but "Russian bots", to take the tinfoil hattery to a new level.
It's not good enough to imply that Russians are born evil at the molecular level. Not dehumanizing enough. No they must also be bots.
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No.1996
>>1995
The black guy was literally "we wuz vikangz" lmao.
She's not that similar to the blacked chick but I see the resemblance now that you posted that.
I hadn't paid attention to the chanting but it is indeed creepy. I think they went for the typical "one actor one word" but instead all actors said all words and it sounds cultish.
>It's not good enough to imply that Russians are born evil at the molecular level. Not dehumanizing enough. No they must also be bots.
Honestly I think it's more about claiming there's no real people disliking their garbage, "just bots". Takes an actual NPC to swallow that bullshit kek. But then again, they've been brainwashing Swedes since they're children. I think they got too cocky.
Glad to see the image upload is fixed btw, I had seen Ron tweet about it but didn't test it.
The thumbnails are buggy though.
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No.1998
>>1989
>>1990
>>1991
>It wasn't the whole bullshit about the ring with the "arabic" being found on it was it? I remember when a bunch of news stories came out saying muslims was vikings and shit because of that ring.
If I remember correctly they found a ring with a blue stone or glass bead inscribed with the name “Allah”, and a piece of cloth with what one professor claimed also read “Allah”. I would assume the ring was either taken by force or traded from some Arabs encountered on their voyages east. The pattern on the cloth did not say “Allah”; it seemed more like a Swastika, or the “fire cross”, and it has been found here in Norway as well, and that was dated to before the Mohammedan religion, so it goes way back.
I noticed on Wikipedia that they are claiming the Selburose is also possibly of Mohammedan origin; look instead at the similarities between the Selburose and the symbol for the Latvian god Auseklis – it seems much more probable that the symbol is a shared European symbol.
Red Ice TV briefly mentioned the case in their video on the SAS ad, but I couldn’t find the video on the ring/fabric pattern on Bitchute.
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No.2000
>>1998
>look instead at the similarities between the Selburose and the symbol for the Latvian god Auseklis
Yes it also reminds me of the star of Ishtar/Venus etc. in as much as the 8 points.
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No.2607
2020; the gift that keeps on giving.
Anyone want to take bets on the next event? Yellowstone? Massive tsunami? Zombie outbreak? Ebola/Covid hybrid?
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No.2617
>>2607
Robot/AI uprising maybe? Or a meteorite crashing into earth?
At the moment my money is on the race war.
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No.2620
>>2617
>Robot/AI uprising maybe?
That one is coming I'm sure.
>At the moment my money is on the race war.
You may well be right. While these kinds of riots pop up periodically, I have never seen such institutional support for widespread division and destruction before.
I'm thinking something outside of our expectations, like dinosaurs rising up out Antarctica and eating everything in sight or a whole continent just sinks into the ocean.
Hope you are staying safe and dry.
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No.2627
>>2620
Maybe another Carrington Event? That would probably be the final nail in the coffin for human civilization.
Or something to do with CERN/LHC?
>Hope you are staying safe and dry.
Everything went better than expected. We’ve got beautiful summer weather now. Just two weeks since there was a lot of snow left out in the wilderness though. Can’t remember there being any snow left in June before…
Nothing compared to the stuff you guys have to deal with Down Under though.
Came across the film a while back, but haven’t had time to see it yet. Looks kinda fun though – maybe based on Hervǫr in the Tyrfing Cycle? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hervor
Viking Destiny (2018) Official Trailer: https://invidio.us/watch?v=q_4GBQU89Ac
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No.2634
Took these last Sunday on the way home from my daily jog.
We’ve had a heatwave going for over a week now, and the worst is yet to come.
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No.2635
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This isn't exactly Norse but it's Old English so it's kinda close and it's pretty good so I figured you guys would like it. Pumped Up Kicks, Old English cover with medieval-sounding instruments.
>>2634
Looks nice.
How hot can a heatwave be in Norway?
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No.2636
>>2634
It looks so beautiful. Freezing here (relatively speaking) <5 in the mornings. Would trade in a heart beat.
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No.2637
>>2635
>I figured you guys would like it.
Kek nice find.
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No.2639
>>2635
>>2636
30° here today, and with one exception we have had well over a week with bright, sunny days with at least 25°. This is getting ridiculous. Still 19° now, at night, and it never gets more than a very light dusk at night, with the sun beginning to rise before 4 in the morning.
>This isn't exactly Norse but it's Old English
Close enough IMHO. The Anglo-Saxons worshipped the same gods as the Norse before conversion. They used runes too.
<life in the 5th/6th centuries was dominated by pagan religious beliefs with a Scandinavian-Germanic heritage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxons#Religion_and_the_church
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No.2641
>>2639
>30° here today
Honestly didn't realise it got that hot there. British roads would be melting by now, how are yours keeping up?
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No.2643
>>2627
> Looks kinda fun though
Yes, looks like a good one to find and watch.
>maybe based on Hervǫr in the Tyrfing Cycle?
I remember you mentioning this story before with her demanding the sword from the ghost.
Will try to find a copy.
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No.2828
>>2641
Outside the cities our roads are godawful. But that is probably due to the long winters with snow, ice and temperatures down to -30°. That said, there is another heatwave coming this weekend…
Rewatched the Time Team special of Westminster Abbey a while back, and the same Selburose/Auskelis star can be found on the Cosmati Pavement.
Cosmati Pavement | Westminster Abbey: http://archive.vn/WJn6h / https://web.archive.org/web/20200627234104/https://www.westminster-abbey.org/about-the-abbey/history/cosmati-pavement
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No.2831
>>2627
>Viking Destiny (2018)
Got a copy of this a while back. Ready to watch and hopefully have some fun.
>>2828
>That said, there is another heatwave coming this weekend…
Hope you find some relief. We got snow on the outskirts of town the other day.
>and the same Selburose/Auskelis star
>6 points
>same star
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No.2842
>>2831
>and the same Selburose/Auskelis star
>6 points
>same star
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No.2843
Been doing a bit of genealogical research again lately, and it got me wondering why depictions of peoples ancestry is rendered as “family trees”, and if there is a connection to Norse/Germanic mythology. It seems like artists have used family trees to represent the ancestry of nobility and kings and queens since at least the middle ages. Is it a distinctly Western European idea to depict ahnentafels and ancestry with trees?
Yggdrasill is the world-tree in Norse/Germanic mythology, and in Gylfaginning by Snorri Sturlusson, three roots are said to keep the tree standing upright: the first is in the realm of the Æsir (gods and goddesses); the second is in realm of the hrímþursar (“hoar-frost giants”), where Ginnungagap, the yawning void before anything existed, once was; the third is in Niflheim, and below there is the well-spring Hvergelmir, and there the dragon/monstrous serpent Níðhǫggr (“Malice Striker/Biter”) constantly gnaws at the root.
Niflheim, which I take to be synonymous with Niflhel, is the realm of the forgotten dead and translates as “the shadowy/gloomy/murky/misty/foggy realm”, and “hel” means “hidden”. It is a place below the regular underworld according to the poem Baldrs draumar (Vegtamskviða) – Baldr’s dreams (The Wanderer’s speech). The way I interpret it, Niflheim/Niflhel is the realm of the forgotten dead – those who are hidden by the mist of passing time; no one living remembers or honours their memory and deeds, and Nidhogg tearing at the root symbolises how the dead will be forgotten as time passes unless one remembers them and honours their memory and deeds.
To be forgotten after death and end up in the realm of the hidden dead is the worst fate imaginable; a family tree will wither and without its roots it will fall. On the second album, Runaljod – Yggdrasil by Wardruna there is a song named Rotlaust tre fell – “rootless tree falls”.
In heathen times the gods and goddesses were represented by wooden figurines/figures and painted or sprinkled red with blood from sacrificed animals. Similar to how the roots of Yggdrasill were watered with the healing white mud?
Perhaps this watering with the white mud is a reference to the veneration of ones ancestors?
In artistic depictions Yggdrasill is usually shown as a physical tree, but maybe it is meant to represent humanity or kinship? Back in the day each farm had a tuntre (“farmyard tree”) as its center, a mirror or microcosmos of the world, with Yggdrasill standing in the center of the world, Ásgarðr, the realm of the Æsir, surrounded by Miðgarðr, the middle realm where humans live, and beyond that Jǫtunnheimr or Útgarðar, the outer realm of the wild, untamed primordial forces, the jǫtnar/giants.
The two first humans, Askr (“Ash”) & Embla (“Elm”???) were pieces of driftwood given breath of life, colour of life and destinies by the gods.
Two humans, Líf (“Life”) & Lífþrasir (“life-lover” or “the desire to live”) survive the devastations of Fimbulvetr (“the great winter”) and Ragnarǫk (“fate or the reigning ones”) because they have taken shelter in Hoddmímis holt (“Hoard-Mímir’s woodland”), which some scholars think is identical with Yggdrasill.
According to Wikipedia Rudolf Simek points out “that in Germanic regions, the concept of mankind originating from trees is ancient”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoddm%C3%ADmis_holt#Theories
Also, beneath the world-tree’s root in Ásgarðr, the three norns, the Fates, who decide the fate of all living things live by Urðabrunnr (“well of Urðr” or “well of origin”) live. They water the roots so they won’t rot, and they weave tapestries telling the fate of all men (and deities). Since they are by the roots of the world-tree, it could be they base ones fate on peoples ancestry (roots of the family tree)…
Yggdrasill is depicted on the Överhogdal tapestries, dated to the late Viking Age, and it is an exact match with the world-tree Austras koks in the old, pre-Christian Lithuanian religion – just like the Auskelis star is similar to the Selburose!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96verhogdal_tapestries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romuva_(religion)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Medieval_miniatures_of_family_trees
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Family_trees_in_art
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No.2846
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No.2847
>>2843
>Is it a distinctly Western European idea to depict ahnentafels and ancestry with trees?
I wouldn't have thought so but have no idea.
<that in Germanic regions, the concept of mankind originating from trees is ancient.
Connecting the concept of family trees to the world-tree is really interesting. Have you come across any writings or others that have discussed it as a theory?
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No.2853
>>2847
>I wouldn't have thought so but have no idea.
Found a family tree called the Tree of Jesse from the Bible:
<The Tree of Jesse is a depiction in art of the ancestors of Christ, shown in a tree which rises from Jesse of Bethlehem, the father of King David and is the original use of the family tree as a schematic representation of a genealogy. It originates in a passage in the biblical Book of Isaiah which describes metaphorically the descent of the Messiah, and is accepted by Christians as referring to Jesus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_Jesse
>Connecting the concept of family trees to the world-tree is really interesting. Have you come across any writings or others that have discussed it as a theory?
Couldn’t find anything, only family trees of the gods and goddesses, and a bunch of sites selling Viking-inspired jewellery. There could be something in scholarly papers hidden behind paywalls though.
Might be worth asking Maria Kvilhaug if there is any connection between the world-tree and the idea of/depiction of family trees?
There was an ancient silver birch (Betula pendula) called Slindebirken or Slindebjørka (“the Slinde birch”) on a farm in Western Norway; the tree stood on an ancient burial mound (Hydneshaugen) from the 4th Century CE. The burial mound was considered holy, and the owners of the farm would pour ale over the roots of the tree every Christmas Eve.
The farmer who had first settled and built the farm had probably been buried there, and it was probably believed that this ancestor lived on through the tree on the burial mound.
Sadly the tree perished in a storm in 1874, but there are several contemporary depictions of the tree.
https://snl.no/Slindebj%C3%B8rka
https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slindebirken
Thomas Fearnley’s 1839 painting of the tree in high resolution: https://www.nasjonalmuseet.no/en/collection/object/NG.M.00363
There’s also Irminsul and Donar’s Oak (Thor’s Oak) – both were destroyed by the Christians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irminsul
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donar%27s_Oak
Dr. Jackson Crawford did a video on Yggdrasill recently: https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=yQ9vcDYHjpo
He brings attention to the mention of pine needles, which is very interesting, since I think Yggdrasill is a yew-tree, not an ash; in Old Norse “barraskr” (“needle ash”) refers to a yew, and I think it was due to an error in translation or reading the source text that “barraskr” became simply “askr” (“ash”).
He also recently did a video on the misconception that the Norse had no word for the colour blue, or that they used blue and black to refer to the same thing: https://invidio.us/watch?v=fIuqaKLTjsQ
In “Gylfaginning” (http://www.heimskringla.no/wiki/Gylfaginning) there is a description of Hel, the goddess of the underworld (also named Hel):
<Hon er blá hálf, en hálf með hǫrundarlit.
“She is half blue, and half flesh/skin-coloured.”
It does seem like most, if not all, translators, even the Scandinavian languages, translate the colour blue “blár” as “black”…
<Cyatonic is the bluish or purplish discoloration of the skin or mucous membranes due to the tissues near the skin surface having low oxygen saturation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanosis
Pretty sure this cyatonic discolouration is what the Norse imagined Hel to have – she has the appearance of both death and life at the same time.
>>2846
A star is a star. They are also made from the exact same diamond shape.
Next you’ll point out that the colours are all wrong too.
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No.2894
>>2853
>A star is a star. They are also made from the exact same diamond shape.
Bruh…
You think these are all the same?
>Next you’ll point out that the colours are all wrong too.
If colour is relevant to the discussion, yes.
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No.2895
>>2853
>Sadly the tree perished in a storm in 1874, but there are several contemporary depictions of the tree.
What a shame, it looks beautiful.
>the misconception that the Norse had no word for the colour blue, or that they used blue and black to refer to the same thing
I remember reading years ago a similar contention about classical Chinese. That they didn't distinguish between blue and green (in written language).
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No.2993
Got around to seeing Viking Destiny aka Of Gods and Warriors from 2018.
There are some really beautiful locations shown in this film, the fights are well-done, the cinematography is beautiful, and the music is nice. There’s a lot to like about this film, and all these elements elevate this film above a lot of low-budget historical action films.
The acting is nothing to write home about, ranging from scenery-chewing to trying way too hard to serviceable. I really like Anna Demetriou as Helle, she looks the part and she does a fine job with the role. Terence Stamp as Odin did absolutely nothing for me, not only because the filmmakers decided to portray Odin with both eyes intact, and no dark blue broad-brimmed hat and cloak, but his delivery and the way they altered his voice and made him appear and disappear out of thin air vexed me greatly. Odin’s main distinguishable characteristic is that he is one-eyed – why on earth they couldn’t give the actor an eyepatch to wear, or use prosthetics and makeup to make it seem like he is missing one eye is baffling.
Ian Beattie, known for Game of Thrones, isn’t given enough to do, and far less to work with in his role. Taylor Frost is decent as Hakon and Will Mellor as Lord Soini likewise. Kajsa Mohammar looks beautiful as Tait, but isn’t given anything to do in the role.
The cave scene early on, Helle fleeing the kingdom and wandering around the wilderness, King Asmund’s funeral, and the mushroom scene are easily the highlights of the film. If the rest of the film and the writing had been on this level, the film would have been pretty damn great.
Loki is portrayed too much like goofy a devil-like figure, whispering bad advice into someone’s ear. And I’m not sure why they decided to paint his face half-black – perhaps a reference to his daughter, Hel, being described as half-blue/black and half skin-coloured, but that is because she is the goddess of the death-realm, halfway between death and life.
The Volsung castle is basically a stave church. Why not base it on a Viking ring fortress? And/or use the reconstructed longhouse at Lofotr Viking Museum? They could have shot interior scenes there without having to build anything or buy expensive props.
The proto-hippies annoyed me to no end. They have no weapons, are vegetarians, and spend their days dancing and frolicking in flimsy gowns, even wearing these impractical garments when they are chopping firewood. These people wouldn’t survive a week on their own drinking turnip juice and dancing around the bonfire preaching about “peace and love, man”.
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No.3025
Saw Steve Sailer on Twitter saying that Trump’s mother Mary Anne MacLeod was raised in a Gaelic-speaking family on the Isle of Lewis in the Outer Hebrides. Perhaps a distant relative of you, BO?
There is an article on her ancestry on CNN, but even though they sent someone over to look into his ancestry it is a dreadfully boring hitpiece on him disguised as an article. Hardly any information on her ancestors at all.
Donald Trump's Scottish roots: How a tiny island could shape a President - CNNPolitics: https://archive.vn/vACUI / https://web.archive.org/web/20161102231906/http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/02/politics/donald-trump-ancestry-scotland/index.html
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No.3060
Happy Leif Erikson Day, everyone! Celebrate responsibly.
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No.3199
Is this film any good (Trollhunter, 2010)? I read its Norwegian, deals with trolls and is a found footage film so I thought I should ask here.
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No.3200
>>3199
Only seen it once; was not blown away by it. For a Norwegian film and for a found footage horror film there are some pretty decent shots and special effects. The massive mountain troll at the end in particular looks cool.
Illustrator Theodor Kittelsen heavily influenced the way we imagine trolls to look like; forget the trolls you see in The Lord of the Rings; the trolls of folklore are massive, and ghastly caricatures of humans. They often have more than one head and turn to stone when exposed to sunlight. While they are dumb and can be fooled by a clever protagonist in fairytales, they speak our language, some of them well, while others just barely.
Keep in mind that it is a comedy horror, sorta like The Return of the Living Dead. One thing that annoyed me and took me out of the film somewhat was that they threw in a bunch of well-known “comedians” for the smaller roles. You have Otto Jespersen playing the titular troll hunter, Robert Stoltenberg, Knut Nærum, Helén Vikstvedt, and, I believe, Pernille Sørensen. I actually think someone who is unfamiliar with these comedians will enjoy the film more.
If you are looking for a serious horror/mystery/drama based on folklore, I would recommend Thale from 2012.
Thale (2012) - Official Trailer [HD]: https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=X4XoSmUoZIY
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No.3214
Brought this film up over at tvch the other day, but it seems impossible to find a copy of it. For its attempts to faithfully represent the time period it makes some really dumb and obvious mistakes, like the protagonist being named Baldur. I fear there could be some pozz there, with the protagonist supposedly bringing back “knowledge from distant countries and empires” and the villain “and his clan, who fear the unknown and want to wipe out the bearers of knowledge”. That reminds me an awful lot of the SAS commercial claiming Scandinavia imported all its culture from the rest of the world.
The idea that the Norse would need to import knowledge of seafaring and medicine from faraway lands is beyond preposterous – the Norse had the most advanced ships by far, they could navigate using sunstones and the stars, made superior swords and longbows.
With all this it seems pointless to go to such lengths to try and show an authentic depiction of the time when you clearly are making amateur mistakes like naming the protagonist Baldur – no one would ever dream of giving their child the name of one of the gods. That would have been considered sacrilege.
<Markus Dahlslett’s work now represents the first Norwegian-produced film in this new wave of cinematic Vikings. With limited funding, 70 good assistants, lots of hard work and thorough research, he was ready for the premiere of his short film “Trace” (34 min). The film is part of Dahlslett’s master’s thesis, Et spor av fortiden (“A trace of the past”) in the Department of Art and Media Studies at NTNU.
<Dahlslett wrote, produced and directed the film. He was committed to creating authenticity in the film and recreating the time period in a credible manner. This led him to having the characters speak Old Norse (or Old Norwegian), which was the language of the Vikings.
<“I wanted the character portrayals to be as authentic as possible, not only in terms of props, but also language. I think the spirit of the Viking Age is more believable and alive when actors speak the language that the Vikings actually spoke, and the feeling of going back in time is stronger,” he says and adds, “As far as I know, this is the first Norwegian film that uses Old Norwegian all the way through.”
Liða skaltú ok deyja! - May you suffer and die!: https://archive.vn/yId10 / http://web.archive.org/web/20200423082759/https://norwegianscitechnews.com/2016/03/lida-skaltu-ok-deyja-may-you-suffer-and-die/
Trace - First Teaser (viking film): https://www.yewtu.be/watch?v=_K1GyQm0pf8
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No.3331
>>260
What the hell does any of this have to do with mashing pussies together?
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No.3336
>>3331
What do you think the women got up to while the men were off raping and pillaging on foreign shores? C’mon, man!
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No.3339
>>3336
>What do you think the women got up to while the men were off raping and pillaging on foreign shores? C’mon, man!
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No.3340
>>3025
>Perhaps a distant relative of you, BO?
Quite possibly. No kidding.
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No.3353
>>3350
They do however like to bond.
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No.3624
>>3353
Can't this site not crash every week?
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No.3627
>>3624
I haven't noticed it crashing but haven't been on much lately. 8kun never did seem to retain or regain 8chan's glory unfortunately. And now with Q BTFO the site has probably lost a huge chunk of users.
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