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So /ratanon/, what animes do you like? Which ones do you think are a good fit for the rationalist-adjacent community, and why?
Pic naturally related.
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No.6539
>>6536
More like http://myanimelist.net/anime/13141/Shibainuko-san amirite?
>>6494
Puella Magi Madoka Magica deals with themes like rationality, wishes, p-zombies, utility, and hope. That's what we're here for, right?
Gwern seems really into NGE.
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No.6540
>>6539
>Gwern seems really into NGE.
All my respect for him just vanished.
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No.6541
>>6540
>not liking Evangelion
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No.6542
>>6540
Don't let the tang wet you on the way out, normie scum.
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No.6543
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No.6544
>>6543
A really straightforwards story (including EoE) about growing up and learning to live with other people is bad because some people hyped it as being some kind of super 2deep4u weed lmao show?
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No.6545
>>6538
Right wingers are always stupid, and I say that as a non-leftist. The problem is that some inconvenient facts have fallen into the possession of such a group of dunces, simply because they've been discarded.
It's weird how the smartest group falls prey to the equality myth. Moldbug was a lot closer to the truth than most of those that came after him, since he's entirely comfortable with the idea of making Obama CEO of America. Literally the only thing wrong with liberals is that they refuse to be the honest and open natural aristocracy they could and should be.
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No.6546
>>6545
Depends on whether you consider "right-winger" to be "conservative" or "doesn't give a fuck about the poor", there are plenty of smart people in the latter category.
Of course, thanks to the magic of memes, right winger nowadays means "anyone who disagrees with any aspect of American east coast progressive culture".
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No.6547
>>6540
>>6541
>>6538
>>6542
There's plenty of other places for this kind of thing (ie content-free sneering at anyone with a different opinion, serious or not). I'd hoped that rational-chan would be a little more thoughtful…
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No.6548
>>6547
>chans
>rational
>rationalists
>rational
Topkek, as they say.
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No.6549
>>6548
I don't see why this little one can't be. It's not actually mandatory to copy the posting style of /b/ (or /a/ for that matter).
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No.6550
>>6547
I'm just here to shitpost to be honest. Looking at all the crap being posted here so is everyone else.
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No.6551
>>6545
Their entire framework depends on Christian ideas about fundamental human equality, they can't discard it and keep the rest.
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No.10548
>>6510
https://humaniterations.net/2017/05/23/authoritarians-and-ideology-of-love/
I don't care enough about the question to read this article critically enough to be able to tell you whether it satisfactorally answers that question, but I can tell you that it contains some truly sumptuous Three Pepper Hot Fire Discourse and, as such, I recommend it pretty hard
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No.10550
>>10548
>For decades radical politics was almost exclusively the domain of anarchists and other explicit anti-authoritarians. Sure there were neonazi gangs on the streets of many cities and the occasional Trotskyist or Maoist on the edges of the activist scene, but anti-authoritarianism was for all intents and purposes hegemonic.
This doesn't ring true. Radicals' revealed preference for making their values law is as old as radicalism. How is that anti-authoritarian?
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No.10551
>>10550
Progressives calling their authoritarianism anti-authoritarian is as old as "progress",
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No.10553
>>10548
>The lunkheads, the privileged brutes who can barely remember what was stolen from them, rarely rise as high as the true ideologues of love. The fratboy is not a true believer, the nerdy girly boy is. The fratboy will pillage, but the nerdy girly boy will kill millions in service to his religion. Every moment carrying the raw tension that this might be the last chance to win.
>The fratboy chortles with delight at anything that gets things back to the simplistic formula he knows, that removes the obstacles of those feminists and weird kids. He wears his MAGA cap like a party hat. But the nerdy girly boy wears it like a talisman, a crucifix, a holy pact.
There's a Chad vs Virgin meme in here somewhere.
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No.10555
>>10553
Only if it's Chad Nerdy Girly Boy and Virgin Fratboy
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No.10556
>>6498
Someone convince me the franchise isn't just the LN writer wanking off his own personal brand of space elves, because I saw the wiki once and the Abh sound like fuckin' Chakats
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No.10557
You're really just asking for recommendations.
Gankutsuou is good and contains rat-adjacent levels of traps and gay. Funimation has the dub free on youtube but you miss out on Nakata Jouji if you take that route so don't do it.
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No.10559
>>10557
>ever watching anything dubbed
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No.10560
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No.10567
It's not rationalist, but I'm really enjoying Made in Abyss.
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No.10568
>>10567
For non-rationalist recs, other top picks this season are Gamers! and Tsurezure Children.
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No.10570
>>10557
Not really, I made the thread for general anime discussion. I've already seen all the good animes.
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No.10572
>>10570
>I've already seen all the good animes.
Then it's time to stop.
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No.10573
Hunter X is the objectively best anime
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No.10574
>>10570
Actually no you haven't because your taste is shit
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No.13019
>>10553
>the nerdy girly boy will kill millions in service to his religion
Hot.
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No.13020
>>6551
most of those ideas about liberty, egalitarianism, etc. come from the enlightenment, which was a mistake
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No.13021
Isekai Maou to Shoukan Shoujo no Dorei Majutsu, which just wrapped up, seems like a VERY good fit for the rat(-adjacent) community right now, if you get my meaning.
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No.13033
>>10559
>watching undubbed Cowboy Bebop, Big O, Fullmetal Alchemist…
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No.13034
>>13033
Joke's on you, I did actually watch dubbed Cowboy Bebop, because the torrent was the dual audio and it defaulted to English.
I endured 12 entire seconds of dialogue because I'd heard the Cowboy Bebop dub was really good. I'm not going to make that mistake again when I watch Big O.
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No.13035
>>13033
I have recently realized that I simply accepted the default opinion about Cowboy Bebop's Japanese voice acting, which is strange because I don't like dubs. Cowboy Bebop just has a different mood in Japanese. Spike is not quite the same person. He isn't as perky. However, that does not make the Japanese voice acting worse.
Do Fullmetal Alchemist and Big O have famously good dubs like Bebop?
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No.13050
>>13033
Bebop's dub is watchable. It's not good. I don't know how anyone can endure Faye's English voice for more than 30 seconds.
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No.13060
>>13050
I think people call it good because they only care about Spike's sexy voice, maybe Jet's.
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No.13062
>>13035
A rule I follow is to default to the language the characters should be speaking in-story.
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No.13088
>>13062
So you watch Big O and Fullmetal Alchemist in English, Attack on Titan in German, and Cowboy Bebop in Chinese?
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No.13093
>>13088
…Is Chinese canon for Cowboy Bebop? I thought it was explicitly English. Is there a Chinese dub?
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No.14300
Do you watch virtual youtubers, ratanon? They are the latest anime-adjacent fad.
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No.14349
Fate/Zero's main plotline is an argument against utilitarianism in favor of something like virtue ethics.
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No.14350
>>14349
I have never heard anything about Fate that didn't confuse me
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No.14351
>>14349
Each of Fate/stay night's three routes is about letting go of utilitarianism (under different circumstances). What is actually pretty clever is that in one of the routes characters who bonded over utilitarianism abandon it for the sake of each other. It sort of makes you wish it happened more often in real life.
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No.14362
>>14349
No it isn't, dude just gets visions of how the local Monkey's Paw magic item is going to use his utilitarianism to justify killing everyone when he makes his wish, and that plus having to murder his waifu (again) mind-breaks him and turns him into a virtue ethicist. No actual argument against utilitarianism, just a bunch of fucked up shit happens.
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No.14378
>>14362
Every real argument against utilitarianism is going to take a form that utilitarian true believers refuse to recognize as an argument.
Following utilitarianism broke him long before he got to the grail. It was just the idea of the grail that kept him going.
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No.14428
>>14378
Literally the same thing as woo-ists saying that skepticism makes astrology or psychic powers or whatever not work.
At what point would him switching to Kantianism or whatever make the events of Fate/Zero all sunshine and daisies?
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No.14437
>>14350
The thing to understand about Fate is that there's not anything to understand, it's pure chuunibyou: Rule of Cool crossbred with fractally complex power-levels/world-building. It's like Warhammer 40k or other nerd universes: it hacks your systemizing, but there's never an end to it, there's always another unit or character or secret.
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No.14440
>>14428
It doesn't make the challenges of life go away. But pic related wouldn't happen.
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No.14441
>>14440
Yeah, so an Airbus full of ghouls touches down in JFK. You think when he goes in to extract Natalia from the ensuing clusterfuck and watches tourists get eaten alive while knowing "I could have prevented this", that's going to be psychologically healing?
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No.14483
I really enjoyed Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou. It's serene.
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