No.5421 [Last50 Posts]
The last owner nuked the board, so I claimed it.
I scraped as much as I could from archive.org and I'm going to try to restore it soon. Here's a sample:
>>>/test/52578
https://web.archive.org/web/20160904000539/http://8ch.net/ratanon/res/13.html
I have 301 threads, 4698 posts, and 937 (out of 1156) files.
I automated everything except the captcha, but it's going to take a while even if everything goes according to plan (it won't).
Post suggestions, complaints, etcetera
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No.5422
Maybe you could contact the admins and get temporary permission to work around the captcha? You also might want to ask them about hidden anti-abuse stuff in case you accidentally bypass some rate limit.
Awesome job though.
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No.5423
Oh could you maybe make a torrent of your scraped data? I'd love to run statistics on it for fun. Maybe make a ratanon LSTM chatbot.
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No.5424
>>5422
Good idea.
>>5423
These are the threads:
https://u.teknik.io/wO5Gn.xz (878 KB, 15 MB uncompressed)
The HTML files are straight from the wayback machine, the JSON files are similar enough to the native JSON interface to work with my existing tools.
These are the attached files:
https://u.teknik.io/6wUzy.tar (172 MB)
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No.5425
>>5424
Firefox says your download contains a virus or malware. I tried to extract the archive anyway but it just contains a single file named "wO5Gn" that won't open with anything.
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No.5426
>>5425
It's a tar file. I didn't notice teknik stripped that out, the original extension was .tar.xz. If you rename it to give it a .tar extension 7zip can probably handle it.
u.teknik.io must have ended up on a blacklist.
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No.5429
>The last owner nuked the board
Why do people do it?
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No.5430
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No.5636
>>5421
If the content posted so far is any indication, reviving /ratanon/ was a mistake.
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No.6508
By the way, should the board be unindexed or exposed to the rest of 8chan? It's set to unindexed for now.
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No.6555
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No.6927
What's with the gay cursor ?
Why not just abandon 8chan all togheter and see if some already established imageboard takes us ?
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No.6948
I mean most of us would probably fit right at home on wizchan amirite
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No.7001
>>6927
What would be the benefit of that? Sounds like pure bikeshedding.
>>6948
Not really. Wizard types generally aren't rational even in principle and often take pride in having self-defeating values.
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No.7014
>>6927
>What's with the gay cursor ?
The what?
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No.7168
Hey new owner,
1. What do we call you?
2. Captchas are a unit of caring. Are you solving captchas for us manually?
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No.7226
>>7168
>1. What do we call you?
Ideally nothing, I'm not a fan of identities. But if you have to, a random dictionary pick suggests "Turnstile".
I don't have an existing rationality-associated name anywhere.
The BO account is called "aKKi7wZBaf". I didn't pick that, but I like the style.
>2. Captchas are a unit of caring. Are you solving captchas for us manually?
Yes, every 75 posts. They take maybe five seconds on average, so that's only five minutes or so in total.
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No.7515
>>7014
Gay cursor as in this new one.
>>7001
The benefit would be not getting fucked in the ass next time 8chan decides to go kaput, like last time when tis board was unavailable for days maybe weeks.
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No.7519
Nvm lel I forgot scrot doesn't capture the cursor. If I'm the only one seeing it it's probably on my end.
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No.7520
>>7001
>Wizard types generally aren't rational even in principle and often take pride in having self-defeating values.
Sounds like a perfect match.
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No.7647
>>7519
It might have something to do with the (now removed) CSS. I don't get anything here, but my cursor disappeared on archive.is. I guess you could take a photograph of your monitor.
I don't know if there are other suitable sites that are more reliable long-term. 8chan is backed by 2channel.
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No.7777
>>7647
Actually even if there is, they will probably require the board to use one letter or two, and people who have nothing to do with ratanon will show up from other boards and we somewhat conduct conversation here on our own pace.
Maybe we can make a subreddit as backup, in case 8chan goes down.
Ohh and feel free to change the css here, I always hated the mundane look of yotsuba.
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No.8000
>>7777
8chan is not the only imageboard like this. I could make a backup board on Endchan.
There's supposed to be an IRC channel somewhere too.
I don't know about the CSS. Should I change it to Photon? You can also set a personal alternative in the [Options].
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No.8094
Thanks for this, Turnstile. And thanks for the new header images.
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No.8293
>>8000
endchan is a good idea I just didn't suggest it at the time because I'm afraid the same way endchan /tech/ ended, as a less active offshoot on of 8ch's /tech/
t. endchan /tech/ regular
>There's supposed to be an IRC channel somewhere too.
for ratanon ?
>I don't know about the CSS. Should I change it to Photon? You can also set a personal alternative in the [Options].
Sorry I'm one of those wierd people on low end machines who from time to time use tor and have javascript disabled. [Options] does not appear for me.
I was suggesting more as a way to differentiate us from the rest of the boards even if it's something already available as an option. A slight idea of visual identity even if it sounds practically useless.
For people who spend their day on imageboards all the day a slight visual impact will help them recalibrate for that local community.
I say this based on my personal experiences, and it's my personal opinion.
There are also some 8chan css themes online on github but those might not work.
Of course if you like yotsuba you won't see me complaining.
exp: https://github.com/7185/8chan-tomorrow https://github.com/dfkt/8chan-user-css
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No.8421
>>8293
>for ratanon ?
Yes:
>>7067
>Sorry I'm one of those wierd people on low end machines who from time to time use tor and have javascript disabled. [Options] does not appear for me.
You can try Stylish if your browser supports it. Weirder browsers often have weirder solutions. For example, qutebrowser has a global stylesheet that could be used for this.
>I was suggesting more as a way to differentiate us from the rest of the boards even if it's something already available as an option. A slight idea of visual identity even if it sounds practically useless.
That makes sense, especially for a board that's separate from the overall 8chan community. I'll make something.
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No.8552
How about ripping off LW's look?
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No.8558
>>8421
I know about qutebrowser's userstyle option, I just provided an explanation while trying to get to the visual differentiation point.
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No.8646
>>8552
I am against this because it would be a reinforcement that we are specifically a lw parody site.
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No.8669
Please pick a common sans serif font for the posts. Serif fonts look bad at small sizes, and Trebuchet is a Windows-centric choice.
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No.8670
>>8669
You're right. I just left it at the Photon default, I don't even have Trebuchet installed.
I changed it to sans-serif. Is there a reason to also give a more specific font a higher priority?
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No.8671
>>8646
I am persuaded. I retract my proposal.
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No.8672
>>8670
On Linux with Microsoft fonts Arial usually looks better than the default sans-serif. I'd set the font to Arial first, since it is probably the most widespread adequate sans serif font, then Helvetica, then sans-serif.
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No.8673
Not that guy but this is how the fonts looks now, compared to how it looked with yotsuba.
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No.8674
>>8672
If you would like you can also add Arimo for chromebooks or those using chromeos fonts.
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No.8675
>>8674
Don't Chromebooks have Arial?
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No.8676
>>8675
I honestly have no idea, I'm not on a chromebook I just know that their default sans-serif font is Arimo. ( I use tts-croscore on linux ), my request is just in case he chooses font families based platforms.
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No.10000
Nearly there. I'll unstick this thread when it's done.
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No.10205
I feel like there was a sweet spot for when to stop the restoration process for optimal post quality and that it was at least 12 hours before the present time.
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No.10206
>>10205
What's the point of restoring the board if you're not going to restore most of the posts.
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No.10207
>>10205
If there are any particularly optimal threads from over 12 hours ago you can write up replies and bump them.
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No.10208
>>10205
Every fucking internet community that I have ever belonged to complains about decline in quality. It's almost never true, people just have rosy memories of the past. I've done actual experiments including making an IRC bot that reposts old discussions in real time, and making people look at web archived version of the "golden age" of their forum.
If there's been a decline in ratanon I think it's just because people have left and we aren't doing much to gather new members. This latest incident doesn't help things.
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No.10209
>>10208
I just read "decrease in quality" as "more right wing"
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No.10210
>>10209
>implying libshits aren't testing the limits of sanity lately
https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/23270
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No.10211
>>10208
That's awesome. Any blog posts on those experiments?
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No.10214
Your bot is making erroneous replies to the 0th comment (">>0").
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No.10224
>>10214
>>0 is now the in way to say "op"
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No.10225
>>10214
That's how it handles posts it couldn't make because they didn't have text and it couldn't recover any of the attached files.
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No.10226
>>10208
I used a forum with people that claimed it had declined, and when I dug through the oldest threads, I discovered that they were garbage and the quality had significantly increased over time. A lot of the regulars were around 12 when they joined, and they aged with the forum.
As of today the forum is still shit, but it's also still improving.
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No.10227
>>10208
I agree that self-perceived decline of online communities is very often exaggerated or simply imagined, especially if they never undergo a rapid expansion. However, you shouldn't recalibrate too strongly in the other direction. Do not forget that online communities can and do decline. Just look at today's /b/ an example. It is nothing but porn now.
>>10211
Seconding this.
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No.11251
Who would win?
The entire r/SSC mod team
vs
One insane tranny
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No.11255
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No.11258
>>11251
They're practically the same thing.
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No.11259
>>11251
This looks like a reference to a current event that I am not aware of.
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No.11262
>>10208
>I've done actual experiments including making an IRC bot that reposts old discussions in real time, and making people look at web archived version of the "golden age" of their forum.
That's pretty cool.
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No.11274
>>11259
>>11255
u/PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN has been having a semi-public spat with his ex girl(male)friend for the last few months. Last week u/PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN made some acid remarks in the secret rat!Discord about his ex and about transmen in general. Someone anonymously screencapped them and sent the screencaps to u/PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN's ex, who used them to get u/PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN evicted from his group house. The r/SSC modteam has been eating itself ever since. Accusations of transphobia and betrayal abound.
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No.11275
>>11274
Who's the "girl"friend on reddit and where's the secret discord?
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No.11276
>>11274
>secret discord
Meaning not the one linked in the SSC sidebar?
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No.11278
>>11274
> who used them to get u/PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN evicted from his group house
lmao, these fucking people
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No.11280
>>11274
>u/PM_ME_UR_OBSIDIAN has been having a semi-public spat with his ex girl(male)friend for the last few months.
Not doing this is, like, drama prevention 101. Accusations of heresy transphobia are also to be expected if your ex is trans. What was this somewhat prominent rationalist thinking?
>transmen in general
Oh, so his ex-girl( male)friend is a boy (female)? Rare!
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No.11381
>>11276
There are a few discords not linked in the SSC sidebar, none of them are particularly secret?
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